Ford F-150 V8 vs Turbo Towing MPG Test | If You Want The Best F-150 Fuel Economy Buy THIS Truck!

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  • @takayama1638
    @takayama16385 жыл бұрын

    I've been towing a 6x12 U-Haul trailer loaded to gills in my 2015 Platinum 4x4 Ecoboost 3.5, back and forth through Ozarks, on my 4th trip tomorrow. Love the POWER! And fuel economy! Let me tell you, nothing beats pure power when you need to move, and this truck does it!! Having that Ecoboost power sure adds a level of safety. And that is most important to me.

  • @smarticus6384
    @smarticus63845 жыл бұрын

    I borrowed a 2x4 2.7L 10spd 3.73 EcoBoost for about a week. That was the fastest truck I have ever been in before. With so much power it can be difficult not to use it. I found the performance so tantalizing and addictive. But when I did drive normally it was around 22-23 MPG.

  • @ryanlusby569

    @ryanlusby569

    5 жыл бұрын

    Smarticus but did you tow anything with it? Because that’s the main concern is the usable torque...

  • @smarticus6384

    @smarticus6384

    5 жыл бұрын

    ryan Lusby no I did not. But I have towed with the 3.5 and that was a torque monster. However I only got 13 MPG on a 500+ trip at sea level while towing.

  • @smarticus6384

    @smarticus6384

    5 жыл бұрын

    yea bouy lol. I only had the 2.7L for a week. But I have towed quite a bit with the 3.5L Compared to my Silverado the 3.5 is a towing machine.

  • @paulrodrigues9603

    @paulrodrigues9603

    5 жыл бұрын

    Smarticus tantalizing really that's a girly word.

  • @Rottingboards

    @Rottingboards

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@paulrodrigues9603 Paul...Making fun of someone for using a girly word? Are you a twelve year old or just uneducated. Good luck with getting your GED.

  • @jayg9732
    @jayg97325 жыл бұрын

    I have the 2.7 hands down a beast. I tow 4k pounds up to 6k . Pulls like nothing. I love it I have 61k now really happy i drive alot.

  • @chrisolbrycht9858

    @chrisolbrycht9858

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is your mileage

  • @heavenswarrior26
    @heavenswarrior265 жыл бұрын

    Gearing makes a world of difference, would love to see a test where the two trucks are matched evenly.

  • @danshobbies13
    @danshobbies135 жыл бұрын

    For the casual person that tows, the eco boost is the better option only because the MPG when not towing. I drive my truck empty 95% of the time. I’d rather get the best fuel mileage that 95% than 1 mpg the other 5% I’m towing something.

  • @GreatValue32

    @GreatValue32

    4 жыл бұрын

    What does you manual recommend 87 or 91

  • @paul5502

    @paul5502

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GreatValue32 87

  • @joe1071

    @joe1071

    3 жыл бұрын

    This

  • @kiplonto7524
    @kiplonto75245 жыл бұрын

    Fyi my 2017 2.7 4x4 is faster to 50 than my intake tune exhaust 04 gto.. and it's a full-size truck that gets over 20mpg. Good times we're living in.

  • @pryme2013

    @pryme2013

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you need new tires on the gto

  • @artprairie5989
    @artprairie59892 жыл бұрын

    I have made the Trek from Rio Rancho New Mexico to Portland Oregon twice now. I have a 2014 F-150 3.5 ecoboost crew cab long bed with 373 rear end. The trip is 1365 miles. Much to my surprise, Towing 7150 lb I averaged 11.4 miles per gallon. Kept the rpms at 2000 or less as much as possible (70mph). The ecoboost engine has done great on both trips, using 111 gallons one trip and 109 gallons on another. My truck sits currently at 157000 miles. Could not be happier with it, and expect to get 250000 miles out of her.

  • @Berrypancakes229
    @Berrypancakes229 Жыл бұрын

    We’ve had our Ford 150 3.5 EcoBoost for 6 years. Best 150 truck. Great for towing our weight of our trailer and great in fuel economy for daily driving. Great horsepower and torque.

  • @davidmeyer8133
    @davidmeyer81335 жыл бұрын

    I get 21mpg with my 2.7 ‘17 XLT Sport Crew Cab 4wd in normal mixed driving. It has great range with 36gallon tank and better mileage than my V6 Ranger did. This is a great engine for the way most people use a half ton, and can still tow a decent amount of weight when you have to.

  • @AJGT350

    @AJGT350

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same for me with '18 5.0 XLT Sport Crew Cab 4x4

  • @danh8302

    @danh8302

    5 жыл бұрын

    I get a combined 19-21 in city driving in dallas, that is about as bad as it gets, no real speed limit to speak of and lots of heavy throttle(its not unusual to go 90-100 in the left lane). I get about 24 city in places like MO or AR where I’m not driving as fast in City driving and terrain impacts your speed and direction more than dallas. It will get 24-25 hwy in TX and 27-32 everywhere else. I find that the 70/75 mph limit is the difference. If i set it at 70-72 it will certainly get 28mpg while at 77 it will drop to 24-25. In a 70mph stretch from CO to TX i have done 32.x on 3 occasions with about a 2000’ decent over a few hundred miles. Hands down the worst fuel economy it gets is with a cross wind, in west Texas it happens often. I guess because you have to steer into it a bit, that is where the efficiency loss is. if I have a strong cross wind it doesn’t matter what I do, it will get about 20 on the highway and feather the front tires a bit.

  • @twowheelsdown2002

    @twowheelsdown2002

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm getting 20mpg back and forth to work(city/hwy mix) in my new Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins 4x4. All day in town got 18mpg. When FLT towed a 12,500 pound trailer they got 11mpg with the Ram. That's better mpg with a much bigger trailer. Be curious to see how it would do with that lighter trailer. I considered the Ecoboost, but glad I went the diesel route now, as I am not really losing anything empty, and this will be towing my home in a couple of years and can tow a lot more than the 1500's can.

  • @danh8302

    @danh8302

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve added a 19 4wd and it’s comparable to what others are reporting in mpg for mixed. I don’t know what it will get on my long trips yet but I’m thinking it’s going to be several mpg less than the 2wd.

  • @terryalan1430

    @terryalan1430

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AJGT350 you get 20 in the 5.0?

  • @anthonydavis191
    @anthonydavis1915 жыл бұрын

    The sound of that V8 though you can’t beat that sound right there

  • @fntony4967

    @fntony4967

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Tsang Tsung Wreck your MPG too.

  • @jmj267
    @jmj2675 жыл бұрын

    I have always been a fan of the 2.7 engine. Ever since you guys did the acceleration in that parking lot with all the engines and truck makes it's smoked everything.

  • @2KCamaroZ28SS

    @2KCamaroZ28SS

    4 жыл бұрын

    John jay drott except for the 3.5. That’s the king.

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    Жыл бұрын

    @@2KCamaroZ28SS no I think the 2.7 is still faster

  • @daltonhill5110
    @daltonhill51105 жыл бұрын

    MPG-V8 Acceleration-EcoBoost You really can't go wrong with either engine

  • @justinluttrell1769

    @justinluttrell1769

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep. And the V8 is BARELY slower off the line...as in a few tenths. I'd happily sacrifice a few tenths and get better mpg, better sound, and better long term reliability and cheaper maintenance at 6-figure mileage.

  • @jeremymvail

    @jeremymvail

    5 жыл бұрын

    Justin Luttrell it’s the passing power that the ecoboost excel at

  • @820hurleyj

    @820hurleyj

    5 жыл бұрын

    Considering the Ford GT now has a twin turbo V6, Ford has got those babies dialed in! My eco-boost 2.0L Escape hauls ass!

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justinluttrell1769 point is, The v8 is sluggish off the line The 2.7 gets better mpg The sound of an engine struggling at high rpm nobody wants Perceived reliability isn’t real, just a feeling There is no more maintenance on the 2.7 than a five oh

  • @RktsledTv
    @RktsledTv5 жыл бұрын

    I don’t worry to much about fuel economy when towing unless I was doing it every day. But it is nice to know with the Ecoboost that the power is there for passing and merging onto a busy highways.

  • @adamduncan4422
    @adamduncan44225 жыл бұрын

    A Ford engineer told me that to get good fuel economy in the EB engines, keep the rpm below 2,000 rpm to keep the turbos activity at a minimum. Looked like the 2.7 in this video was a couple hundred rpm over 2,000. I bet if you lowered your speed to 60-65, the mpg gap in this test would equalize.

  • @satalac

    @satalac

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well yeah, if you drive slower, MPG increases. But if you want to do the speed limit on the interstate, this test is an accurate real world test.

  • @kingdaniel3519

    @kingdaniel3519

    5 жыл бұрын

    Speed limit isn't a requirement as long as you're not going so slow as to impede traffic.

  • @jamesbeaman6337

    @jamesbeaman6337

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kingdaniel3519 exactly. Personally, if I'm towing 7000 lbs or over, I'm doing 65 mostly in the right lane, letting everyone pass me and keeping my stress level low and MPGs higher.

  • @v8consumption

    @v8consumption

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow that engineer is an idiot. Turbo boost levels are determined by load, timing, and afr. Not rpm. Rpm has absolutely nothing to do with the boost. You can have the throttle at 15 percent at 5k 4pm or 50% at 3k rpm. 50% at 3k rpm will flow way more air and require way more fuel.

  • @AkioWasRight
    @AkioWasRight5 жыл бұрын

    Not only would a bigger V8 or more aggressive gearing help with the lack of low-end with the 5.0L, I'd bet it would get the same or better MPG than the 2.7L Ecoboost and 5.0L in this test. The Ecoboost is just a way for Ford to trick the EPA testing. It does not deliver in the real world.

  • @AkioWasRight

    @AkioWasRight

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Eat Jat So what? Drive as fast as you want with any engine you want. A 5.0L would return similar numbers, maybe better numbers. The issue is the 2.7L Ecoboost is rated higher on the sticker and is marketed as the "Eco" option for greenies and people trying to save money at the pump. There's nothing "Eco" about them.

  • @pacheco8245

    @pacheco8245

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Eat Jat The EPA highway test cycle requires 7% idling, acceleration from 0, braking and speeds up to 80 mph, not just a steady speed below 80 mph. It's actually a somewhat demanding test. Under those conditions, Ecoboost engines never get their EPA estimates. They barely get that under the best of conditions. www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml

  • @Lamar-zx5tp

    @Lamar-zx5tp

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Eat Jat Oh, you're totally right! it's not that the Ecoboost doesn't deliver in the real-world, it's that that real-world goes too fast.😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @felix8289

    @felix8289

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Eat Jat It actually doesn't. Only a small number of shills claim it does.

  • @ForTehNguyen

    @ForTehNguyen

    5 жыл бұрын

    correct, if turbochargers were truly more efficient, why isnt every engine turboed?

  • @Acreyman
    @Acreyman5 жыл бұрын

    I just drove a 2.7 full of people and camping gear from Texas to Seattle and averaged 20.9. my best tank was 22. This is with cruise control on 80 and a heavy headwind so I am impressed.

  • @paulrodrigues9603

    @paulrodrigues9603

    5 жыл бұрын

    @yea bouy See his cargo list? You'd need 3 Prius's to carry that!

  • @OkieProductions
    @OkieProductions5 жыл бұрын

    living with an ecoboost f150. choices are Eco OR boost. cant have both. MPG great when empty. not so great when towing.

  • @ericgrau123

    @ericgrau123

    5 жыл бұрын

    And most people spend 90% of driving unloaded

  • @Napster60

    @Napster60

    5 жыл бұрын

    so 95 to 99% of the time you own the truck you probably won't be towing unless you work for a hauling company in which case your probably not buying this vehicle anyway... So for that 95 to 99% of the time you will be getting better mileage than the V8 saving money every mile you drive that will more than outweigh a 2 mile per gallon or LESS difference on one towing trip..

  • @RipReturns

    @RipReturns

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Napster60 - and don't forget the 5.0 Coyote costs more (it was either $995 or $1995 over 2.7L when I looked in 2017).

  • @Napster60

    @Napster60

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RipReturns The price difference really doesn't bother me.. first of all no one pays full price.. people that pay sticker price have too much money and deserve to get ripped off. There are reasons to get the V8 I'm perfectly happy with the V8 I think it sounds amazing I think it's probably more reliable past 200k. I think if you want to make it really fast there are all kinds of tuning and bolt on options you can get for it and the sky is the limit with a V8.. you can only push the EcoBoost so far before you run out of power to add on.. For most of us that doesn't matter at all we don't need any more than 600 horsepower.. I love the EcoBoosts more I think.. it ticks all the boxes.. Power when I need it Towing when I need it Efficiency when I want or need it Pleasent to drive. Great visibility. An I'm sorry but in my opinion Ford is the only one of the the big three truck makers that feels like they are innovating and making good long term business choices. GM is so big that it feels out of touch in many areas like they copy their competition and stamp out borring stuff just for the hell of it. Crysler makes so many poor products that I even avoid the few good ones they make from fear of the brand..

  • @jamespenner1412

    @jamespenner1412

    5 жыл бұрын

    Even empty the 6.2 chevy is better and the hemi is pretty much the same as the eco. In real world driving. In town or if your diving like a grandma then it does good on fuel. But normal driving its no better then any other one.

  • @davide.s.9880
    @davide.s.98805 жыл бұрын

    I think a $75 dollar Ford FL3Z-99406A10-A Tailgate Shock Assembly will fix the tailgate on that one.

  • @AJGT350

    @AJGT350

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol $50 if you buy from the right place

  • @DaddyBLUE90S

    @DaddyBLUE90S

    4 жыл бұрын

    $20 on Amazon

  • @shawnl4756

    @shawnl4756

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just got a Dee Zee tailgate shock for 20 on Amazon and it’s a 10 min install lol... it’s so much better than just letting it fall..

  • @ronprice52

    @ronprice52

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a $40 tail gate damper works great and was a 15 min install.

  • @ericgrau123
    @ericgrau1235 жыл бұрын

    I don't think I would even need a 3.5 ecoboost I would get the2.7. That little engine is impressive

  • @navy1974100

    @navy1974100

    5 жыл бұрын

    DoctorHO I own a 2015 F150 with the 2.7 eco boost and my son has an 2011 F-150 with the 5.0. There is no comparison, the eco boost will out tow it any day and also get way better fuel mileage. Just my real world observation.

  • @tylersudeta9785

    @tylersudeta9785

    5 жыл бұрын

    My dad had driven 2.7 and it would run like a dog. 3.5 is best

  • @MrJamesLuz

    @MrJamesLuz

    5 жыл бұрын

    We regularly tow a 4500 lbs travel trailer with a crew cab 4x4 2.7L and it’s been amazing. Average for us towing is about 15 MPG, unloaded 18 MPG. Lifetime average at 26,000 miles is 16.8 MPG

  • @revgordon91
    @revgordon915 жыл бұрын

    Nice video guys! That goes to show that there's no replacement for displacement when it comes to towing fuel efficiency. However, I'm still a big fan of the 2.7L because I'll drive it empty mainly.

  • @joshuarounds7180

    @joshuarounds7180

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tommy Gordon Jr I have a ‘17 CCSB 4x4 with the 3.5EB and averaged 11 mpg town an 18ft trailer loaded to around 7500lbs from TN to CO when we moved. That’s through all the rolling hills the Midwest has and doing the speed limit (average of 65mph). Daily driving I average around 21mpg.

  • @revgordon91

    @revgordon91

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuarounds7180 nice! Well I guess that statement is only partly true.

  • @southhillfarm2795
    @southhillfarm27955 жыл бұрын

    Sold my truck yesterday. Don't think I will ever go back to a truck after buying my van. Everything to so much easier in my Metris.

  • @wakeboarder993

    @wakeboarder993

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol ok grandpa

  • @oldgoat6009
    @oldgoat60095 жыл бұрын

    I am not sure exactly how, but my 2015 F-150 Lariat SuperCrew FX4 3.5 EcoBoost with 3.55 gears is handily beating these numbers. Traveled just this weekend with a 6,300 pound 27' AirStream and 1,100 pounds of cargo split between the truck and trailer, from Cypress Texas to Arlington Texas. Total trip was 470 miles. On the way up I had a 15 mph tailwind and averaged 14.5 mpg. On the way back I had a 15 mph headwind and averaged 11.7. Total trip averaged 13.1 mpg. My speed was 60'ish roundtrip. Past trips have been around 12.5 mpg. I am very satisfied with these numbers.

  • @Phos9

    @Phos9

    5 жыл бұрын

    Could be the 3.5 doesn’t need as much boost under towing conditions.

  • @jamesbeaman6337

    @jamesbeaman6337

    5 жыл бұрын

    Remember, they were towing at 70. That 10 mph difference is huge and likely the reason for your much better numbers. I would love to see them do their loop twice with a truck one day at both 60 and 70 to see their real world difference.

  • @Phos9

    @Phos9

    5 жыл бұрын

    James Beaman ah I see. Big difference in drag at those speeds

  • @minivanman1356
    @minivanman13565 жыл бұрын

    My friends dad has a 2017 XLT with the 2.7 and drives it just to work and home and gets 20 mpg overall and as much as 27 on the highway he really loves it.

  • @HCFX2011
    @HCFX20115 жыл бұрын

    Had a 2018 5.0 V8 F150 and went to a 2019 3.5. Towing mileage with my camper is about 2mpg worse than the 5.0 was, but the Ecoboost averages about 2mpg better consistently unloaded. It evens out, and I'll take the endless power towing. Loaded down with a 6,000lb trailer and 1,000lb quad in the bed it still wants to outrun it's cruise control setting up hills. It pulls like a mule where my 5.0 struggled.

  • @daveenriquez7790

    @daveenriquez7790

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2011 w 1st gen/3.5 Liter Ecoboost. Looking at a new truck for 2022. Would you still go with the 3.5L Ecoboost or 5.0 being that you have owned both now for several years? Thanks for your time

  • @Allegronaut
    @Allegronaut4 жыл бұрын

    Some of the better acceleration from the 2.7 eco boost comes from the 3:55 final drive ratio, as opposed to the 3:31 in the Coyote. Which also helps account for the lower fuel economy as well.

  • @613doo
    @613doo5 жыл бұрын

    I have the 2.7 and had the 5.0. Empty the 2.7 has better mpg than the 5.0. Towing is the other way around. But the 2.7 is world's better at pulling heavy loads. Mine has the 3.73

  • @dochollywood1921

    @dochollywood1921

    5 жыл бұрын

    And for people who only tow on occasion like during camping season, it makes perfect sense to get 2.7

  • @pete3272

    @pete3272

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea world's better at pulling heavy loads! That why max towing for the 2.7 is 9000 lbs abd the 5.0 is 11300lbs. Sounds like you are better off taking loads!

  • @MrInzombia

    @MrInzombia

    4 жыл бұрын

    613 doo that makes zero sense, The 2.7 is fast but its tow rating is 7000- 8000 is its limit. The 5.0 is rated at 9000-11000? Your basically contradicting what the engineers say the engines can do.

  • @613doo

    @613doo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrInzombia has nothing to do with actual capabilities and more to do with cooling efficiency and design of engine when it comes to how the engines are rated. I have had both and much prefer towing with the 2.7 all day. Have you ever towed with a 6.0 litre chevy in a 2500? Slow as heck and a painfull experience but its rated to tow much heavier loads. Its not always about performance when it comes to max tow. Sorry soms of you get lost in numbers and don't get the chance to try them all out. Oh and my 5.0 was 9000lbs max with a screw with 3.73...not earth shattering

  • @terinamike
    @terinamike4 жыл бұрын

    I have the 2.7. Drove a the 3.5 eco for 250k in 150. Loved it. Love this one hoping it does as well

  • @marksiegel374
    @marksiegel3745 жыл бұрын

    Great video,I rented a 2018 4x4 lariat and drove 226 miles one way I achieved 22.6 mpg with the 5.0,was very happy with the truck .Just some FYI I get less mpg with loves fuel I get better mileage with shell or chevron fuels,I have a job that requires lots of travel So I'm constantly logging and tracking my vehicle.Continued thanks for all your work enjoy your stuff

  • @billymc2681
    @billymc26815 жыл бұрын

    All the comments...I thought the 2.7 did just fine. The mpg was pretty close. Those praising the 5.0 obviously haven't heard of the oil consumption issues on the newer (18-19's). Yes, there were some cylinder head issues on some 2.7's early on. To my knowledge, Ford fixed most of those under warranty. My 2.7 runs like a champ. Averages 22 mpg with level kit and 33 inch tires. Ok, it doesn't have a V8 sound and Coyote V8s with after market mufflers do scream...but for me the 2.7 has been great after 4 years and 59,xxx miles. Also, why was the engine off of the 2.7? It actually deadens engine noise quite well. Perhaps your decibel reading was off without it.

  • @gman3563

    @gman3563

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah those oil consumption issues aren't as common as it's made out to be. Also the difference in mpg is probably due to the difference in gearing

  • @gman3563

    @gman3563

    5 жыл бұрын

    @The94GTC I agree with that as well. But the problem with the ecoboosts came from the direct injection more than the turbos. My buddy has an ecoboosts and I have a 5.0 they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Early 5.0s had distorted cylinders. Early ecoboosts had problems with timing chains and with misfires. Engines are so advanced now that there is bound to be some issues that need wrinkled out. Wish Ford would just keep the same concept instead of changing it every damn time they come close to perfection

  • @timothycc711
    @timothycc7115 жыл бұрын

    I find it funny for some people that just cant understand the power of the 2.7liter dual scroll twin turbo v6. Because they dont understand the technology they think the motor is weak. They are old fashioned into thinking that the 5.0 liter is a better engine. Looking at the torque curve will shed light on the low end torque that is available on the 2.7. This is much more useful then the torque available in 5.0.

  • @satalac

    @satalac

    5 жыл бұрын

    You have to keep in mind tow ratings too. The 5.0 when properly equipped can tow 11,600 lbs and has a max payload of 3,270 lbs. The 2.7 when properly equipped can tow 9,000 lbs and has a max payload of 2,470 lbs. Those are substantial differences. Is the 2.7 stout? Absolutely, but you have to take everything into account. If you want a better tow rig in a F-150, get the 3.5 EB. The 5.0 is a solid motor that fits in between the 2.7 and the 3.5, plus it's a lot simpler. Honestly, all of the engine choices Ford has will do 90% of what most truck buyers need.

  • @kingdaniel3519

    @kingdaniel3519

    5 жыл бұрын

    I honestly wish that Ford had just made an improved engine out of the 5.4. It was a better towing engine. People see a V8 and think it has to be fast. Well, no, it has to be designed to be fast. The 5.4 felt slow because it didn't generate mid-to-high end power like the 5.0. Even looking at the crazy power of engines today, the 5.4 makes more torque than the 5.0 till about 4200 rpm.

  • @tomjahn6896

    @tomjahn6896

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@satalac you said precisely what I was going to say. All of these engines have their sweet spot. Unless you are going for the extremes, any of these engines will do great.

  • @JDRTRM
    @JDRTRM5 жыл бұрын

    Well .. here in Michigan towing a 26ft aluminum in-line trailer with 4 sleds weighing approx 5000lbs total weight and 3 guys going 75mph in -5f temperature with a 2018 F150 crewcab 2.7 tt ,no tow mirrors,3:55 ratio ,with 87octane fuel ,truck got 13.2mpg . 14.5 with only 3 snowmobiles approx same temperature 3 days earlier with some snowfall that may slow things down some ... cruise control was used also . The cold dense air really packs it in but , ecu adds fuel because of the cold air . I don’t know but it’s the best mpg I have ever had in any of my trucks .!! Lots of people forget , in-line trailers cut through the wind then a wider trailer . Also height matters .

  • @iray3242
    @iray32425 жыл бұрын

    The video comparison I was waiting for.

  • @JamesD837c
    @JamesD837c5 жыл бұрын

    I added an OEM tail gait dampener to my STX for about $65. Available on Amazon.

  • @PJAvenger

    @PJAvenger

    5 жыл бұрын

    lmao gait. you're hilarious

  • @jamesbeaman6337

    @jamesbeaman6337

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@PJAvenger lol, it's tale gait, right?

  • @GT-ie7uu
    @GT-ie7uu5 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see this test without towing anything

  • @EngineeringGoneWrong

    @EngineeringGoneWrong

    5 жыл бұрын

    Look at past videos in pretty sure they have tested both trucks empty

  • @MrAppltec

    @MrAppltec

    5 жыл бұрын

    George Trivanovic then you really don’t need a truck do you?

  • @moose2934

    @moose2934

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MrAppltec Ignorance is bliss. I'm a college student from Alaska and drive a truck here in California. 97% of folks don't tow a thing. We drive them for the security, ground clearance, power, and pride of ownership.

  • @GT-ie7uu

    @GT-ie7uu

    5 жыл бұрын

    Daniel McGee I tow maybe 5 weeks out of the year and use the bed to haul something heavy every now and then majority of the rest Of the year it’s empty that’s why 5.0 forever

  • @MrInzombia

    @MrInzombia

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mike Parlin You drive a truck in california?! with those gas prices?!! lord have mercy on your soul 💀

  • @jnk26
    @jnk265 жыл бұрын

    It's a matter of the speed. I got 9.4 mpg pulling a 33ft long 8500lb fifthwheel, with my 2016 3.5eb. But not at 70mph, 63-65mph it was happiest on a two hour trip you tomorrow only lose 7-10 mins. Easier to deal with 10 min loss than, $30 more fuel per trip. I bought a 6.7 in an F350 crew cab 8ft box SRW. Now I'm 13-14mpg at 65, with tons of power to spare

  • @406Steven

    @406Steven

    5 жыл бұрын

    The difference between 65 and 75 in my V-10 F-250 is as much as 4 MPG depending on what you're towing, if you keep it down to 65 it'll do double-digit fuel economy pulling 10K+ pounds.

  • @MAXIMUSISADOG
    @MAXIMUSISADOG4 жыл бұрын

    I love my 5.0 XLT just because it sounds so good with my magnaflows, but I mostly tow with my 6.0 powerstroke Lariat, yes its bullet proofed and the finest truck I've ever owned.

  • @jefftalbot8371
    @jefftalbot83715 жыл бұрын

    Great test! Now do MPG without trailer. Ford has really underrated the HP and torque in the 2.7L, much more power than rated. I have a 2018 2.7L and it has tons of power. A 3.5L F-150 pulled up beside me so I just click it in sport mode and pow, I have 5 lengths on the 3.5L eco boost and I didn’t have the pedal to the metal. Ford did a great job with the 2.7L engine. With this engine you can pull up to 8,000lbs and still get 24 mpg with just 4 passengers no trailer. If you are pulling under 7,000 lbs and using truck for hauling then this is the engine you want.

  • @Buccko92

    @Buccko92

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jeff Talbot obviously the guy in the 3.5 had it in eco and wasn’t stepping on it. Keep dreaming though bud.

  • @justinluttrell1769

    @justinluttrell1769

    5 жыл бұрын

    Edmunds already did it (for 2 2015 models anyway), the 2.7 got .2 mpg more than the V8, but it was worse than EPA number, while the V8 was over 2mpg BETTER than it's EPA number.

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    2 жыл бұрын

    @justin Ha, you believe everything on the internet don’t you? A car value business like Edmunds and you take that info they spew as gospel 🤑

  • @rowdyyates12345
    @rowdyyates123455 жыл бұрын

    Gear ratio is what made the EcoBoost feel better. My opion anyway

  • @sonictech1000

    @sonictech1000

    5 жыл бұрын

    Could easily be the main fuel economy factor as well.

  • @pete3272

    @pete3272

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually the 3.73 gear in the 5.0 would have accelerated better and returned better towing mpg.

  • @PENETRATQR
    @PENETRATQR4 жыл бұрын

    I like both of them, I bought a 2020 5.0 just because it will make my life easier when working under the hood. But I love how fast the ecoboost are, I had one of those for a couple of days as a loaner while the dealership was installing a bed cover and I could not keep my foot off the gas, very fun to drive. But again, I have never been comfortable with pushing small engines with that much power, that can't be good in a long term.

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    8 ай бұрын

    But the 2.7 is designed and built to handle that much power so it will be good in the long term

  • @troygier991
    @troygier9915 жыл бұрын

    Andre and Nathan GOOD JOB I'm a fan also a Rush fan. Like your Rush shirt Nathan.

  • @tokuzumi1
    @tokuzumi15 жыл бұрын

    Nothing is surprising about this. Smaller engine just won't have the same capability as the larger engine. The thing that kills turbo engines fuel economy is getting into boost. I'm sure that turbo was supplying positive manifold pressure the entire trip. You can have eco, or you can have boost. You can't have both. With the trucks by themselves, the 2.7 would probably do quite a bit better, which is how these trucks are used 99.999999999% of the time.

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    Жыл бұрын

    So a 1 mpg difference is a no go for you? Even tho the 2.7 tows a trailer easier..

  • @pimpovic2
    @pimpovic25 жыл бұрын

    Pick up and passing power goes to the EcoBoost in the mountains, but I wonder if the field would be more equal near sea level. As a truck engine, the V8 has soul that the v6 can't match. This coming from a 3.5 EB owner.

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    Жыл бұрын

    Even at sea level the 3.5 will tow things easier than a 5.0

  • @joshuarounds7180
    @joshuarounds71805 жыл бұрын

    I have a ‘17 CCSB 4x4 with the 3.5EB and averaged 11 mpg town an 18ft trailer loaded to around 7500lbs from TN to CO when we moved. That’s through all the rolling hills the Midwest has and doing the speed limit (average of 65mph). Daily driving I average around 21mpg.

  • @bcfmef
    @bcfmef2 жыл бұрын

    In towing situations, this is where the 2.7 & 3.5 Ecoboosts have such a huge advantage over all V8's, and that is getting to speed and acceleration. The 2.7 , for what it is, is an imprsessive little package.

  • @lanceb7288
    @lanceb72883 жыл бұрын

    Why would you test them with different rear ends? It seem you guys do this a lot. Entertaining fun stuff over facts and solutions. Hoping for more of the later in the future🤞

  • @TheOGMattBurns

    @TheOGMattBurns

    2 жыл бұрын

    For a number of reasons. 1) They test the trucks they have access to. 2) Not every engine is available with the same gear ratios. 3) Four wheel drive models may only be available with certain gear ratios. See: #2. Go to Ford's website, select the "Build your own" and see for yourself. Try to spec out the trucks, as shown on here with the same gear ratio.

  • @vibs1614
    @vibs16145 жыл бұрын

    Just towed 6000 pound travel trailer several hundred miles with multiple 4000 ft elevation changes. 10.4 mpg. 2018 4wd crew cab 6.5 bed full payload. Great truck but watching oil. Thanks for the great video.

  • @johnschnorr7768

    @johnschnorr7768

    5 жыл бұрын

    Which engine

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    2 жыл бұрын

    @john He obviously is talking about the oil burning five oh

  • @niceatrya3477
    @niceatrya34775 жыл бұрын

    2015 F-150 3.5L eco, and I consistently get about 11.5 mpg when towing an 8,000 lb travel trailer in the flat Midwest. Mostly because I drive 55-60 on expressways.

  • @kimkimmers3530
    @kimkimmers35304 жыл бұрын

    Whenever you guys do these kind of things, can you put the specs of the vehicles in the description area? Gear ratios, engines, weight, etc. Just makes it much easier to follow.

  • @Martimus98
    @Martimus985 жыл бұрын

    Suggestion: Can you guys periodically do these sorts of tests with something other than horse trailers? Horse trailers are typically about 7-feet tall. A Toy hauler, for example, can be closer to 11-feet tall. That additional height, along with the towing weight, significantly changes the overall towing experience.

  • @Prevailingbucket

    @Prevailingbucket

    5 жыл бұрын

    Martimus98 it will get worse

  • @ryants1
    @ryants15 жыл бұрын

    Now do 3.5 vs baby power stroke with the 7,000 trailer

  • @stephenpowstinger733

    @stephenpowstinger733

    5 жыл бұрын

    It would be a snap.

  • @NukePooch1

    @NukePooch1

    5 жыл бұрын

    They already did older versions of those. Same weight, different trailer. www.tfltruck.com/2018/06/mpg-challenge-most-efficient-truck-towing-listed-specs/

  • @robertrichardson9953

    @robertrichardson9953

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've got the 3.0 ppwerstroke and get a tad over 30 miles to the gallon not towing. But I know I could get better. Haven't towed with it yet. I still like to make sure I put some miles on a truck before towing

  • @ryants1

    @ryants1

    5 жыл бұрын

    N Pooch thanks for the link👍🏼

  • @robertrichardson9953

    @robertrichardson9953

    5 жыл бұрын

    @yfz450rx this is all Texas interstate mainly 85 mph

  • @timfox2344
    @timfox23445 жыл бұрын

    Good information, good numbers & glad the Coyote is still relevant. That music choice tho .... something from a Lifetime Original, Father & Son meet after a 15yr separation, embarking on a fishing trip, to bury the hatchet as they decide where to bury grandma.

  • @benfromsk7740
    @benfromsk77405 жыл бұрын

    I keep my trucks for 400,000kms and like a nice rumble; so I got a 5.0L. My 2011 was sold at 396,000kms, minimal issues. I’m hoping my new one is similar.

  • @jonasbennett9237
    @jonasbennett92375 жыл бұрын

    Really liked this test guys. I’ve actually had both of those motors but with the 6 speed. I loved the way the ecoboost accelerated but the V8 sound is amazing and I got better cruising MPG with the 5.0.

  • @willie9397

    @willie9397

    5 жыл бұрын

    get the ecoeight problem solved just kidding

  • @daveenriquez7790

    @daveenriquez7790

    2 жыл бұрын

    In 2022, Would you still take the 5.0 or 3.5 Liter Ecoboost? I'm looking to get a new truck to replace my 2011 3.5 Liter Ecoboost. I do have a camper travel trailer fully loaded with water that is about 6800 lbs

  • @jonasbennett9237

    @jonasbennett9237

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I’d go for the ecoboost for the low end torque and if you travel out west it’s nice to have those turbos in thinner air when you’re at a higher elevation. Recently had a Silverado with the 6.2 and 10 speed and towed from UT to GA and I’d say the Ecoboost felt stronger than even the 6.2.

  • @daveenriquez7790

    @daveenriquez7790

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonasbennett9237 Thanks for your input. So far I'm leaning that way

  • @joesainato8051
    @joesainato80515 жыл бұрын

    I love reading the comments whenever an ecoboost is involved. All the keyboard experts tell us the about the lack of reliability. The 3.5 will be out for 9 years now. Ford has some version of an EB in every vehicle they sell except the super duty. Even there supercar has an EB but they are junk no reliability etc. if they were so bad they wouldn’t continue to put a lot of chips in one basket. I for one am on my second 3.5 first one went 120000 problem free miles and second one is at 41000 trouble free. If you’re going to tow with your half ton there is nothing that beats it. Fords 5.0 the old 5.4 gms 6.2 the hemi it doesn’t matter. Nathan talked about all the things the little 2.7 did better. If you tow consistently all of these things are what make towing a large load a better experience

  • @literalsarcasm8455

    @literalsarcasm8455

    5 жыл бұрын

    I saw a 2014 3.5 on sale locally with over 160k miles! People refuse to do simple maintenance and upkeep and blame it on the manufacturer when they break their own products.

  • @mozeby1975

    @mozeby1975

    4 жыл бұрын

    A coworker's dad gas a 2013 3.5 EB and its a disaster. Cam phaser is what they're thinking what's wrong. Just over 100k miles. Metal particles showing up in the oil. Trying to dump it now by trading it in. I'd be getting the 5.0.

  • @mozeby1975

    @mozeby1975

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Rick Johnston Go watch the Town and Country Ford bid where they ask their entire service dept which engine they'd choose in their F150. Its about 14 to 1 for the V8. There's something to that.

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup, 14 mechanics all fighting over who will get to work on those five ohs, daddy needs a boat..

  • @ThatDudeMidnight
    @ThatDudeMidnight5 жыл бұрын

    Love my 18 XLT Sport Coyote SCREW - Best truck I’ve owned.

  • @robertrodgers1423
    @robertrodgers14235 жыл бұрын

    Does the squat on the rear due to the trailer make a difference in the quantity of fuel the tank holds at fill up? I imagine you fill up without the trailer connected but refill with the trailer connected. Can that slope differential make a difference in the "full" indicator? Really enjoy your reviews.

  • @MrHugawa
    @MrHugawa5 жыл бұрын

    I'll take that 5.0 all day long.... twin turbos blowing so much air, so much pressure, so much strain on that 2.7 motor... 5.0 without a doubt

  • @kingdaniel3519

    @kingdaniel3519

    5 жыл бұрын

    You have no idea how an engine works.

  • @2KCamaroZ28SS

    @2KCamaroZ28SS

    4 жыл бұрын

    The EcoBoosts are designed to handle that pressure appropriately though.

  • @davva360
    @davva3605 жыл бұрын

    I think the ecoboost was better at altitude in terms of power but it comes at a cost in fuel. Would still rather have the 5.0 because if anything goes wrong its a simpler engine to fix

  • @prov2135
    @prov21354 жыл бұрын

    I love the lariat mirrors. Wish I could have gotten them on my truck

  • @ayewhite333
    @ayewhite3334 жыл бұрын

    Helpful video

  • @MikeVieira
    @MikeVieira5 жыл бұрын

    5.0L all day for me! I like the man sound it makes!

  • @Steven-gv1ke

    @Steven-gv1ke

    4 жыл бұрын

    What sound does it make as a EcoBoost smokes it in a 1/4 mile?

  • @MikeVieira

    @MikeVieira

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Steven-gv1ke lol. It's a big as truck. Doesn't need to be fast. BUT if I want it to be fast I'll throw a supercharger on it and make 600plus hp all day.

  • @BigEightiesNewWave

    @BigEightiesNewWave

    4 жыл бұрын

    So...turbo is quicker. Esp. 3.5 stomps 5.0

  • @MikeVieira

    @MikeVieira

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BigEightiesNewWave so? 5.0L sounds way better. IMO.

  • @lincolnmicrophonellc

    @lincolnmicrophonellc

    4 жыл бұрын

    exactly, the 5.0 has a lot of room to grow and is respectable stock

  • @justonp1981
    @justonp19815 жыл бұрын

    Rear gear ratio need to be identical if you want this to be a serious comparison...

  • @pete3272

    @pete3272

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the weight difference.

  • @jchack88
    @jchack884 жыл бұрын

    One of things I noticed was the 5.0 suspension seemed to handle the tongue weight better than the 2.7. The 2.7's nose seemed to be pointing to the sky much more which would also hurt MPG along with the gearing difference.

  • @patpalermo7629
    @patpalermo76295 жыл бұрын

    Known this for a long time, just comparing my fuel economy while towing with the 5.0 versus various friends with the turbo's. Once you are into boost, you are beat.

  • @gregmattson6909
    @gregmattson69095 жыл бұрын

    For the increased reliability and simplicity of the ford v8 it’s the only choice for me

  • @vojnikjna30

    @vojnikjna30

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol. The current 5.0 isn’t anymore reliable then either ecoboosts.

  • @michiganman4398

    @michiganman4398

    5 жыл бұрын

    They really screwed up the 5.0 with the 2018 changes. I have a 2015 with the 5.0 and love it but I would honestly get the 2.7 with the port and direct injection generation. I think it’s the better motor now until they fix the issues they created with the 5.0

  • @gregmattson6909

    @gregmattson6909

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’ve heard about oil issues and a few small things. Are there other problems with the 2018 5.0. All I heard when they released the 2018 model 5.0 was that they added port and direct injection to avoid gumming up the intake. Do you know of any other changes?

  • @cfltitan

    @cfltitan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Honestly the 2.7 is by far their most reliable motor. The second gen (2017+) 3.5 is a lot more reliable than the first. Then you've got the 5.0 which went backwards big time. They drink oil almost at the same rate as they do gas. Do a search and you'll see tons and tons and tons of 2018+ 5.0's that are using a quart of oil every 800-1,000 miles which is horrendous.

  • @cfltitan

    @cfltitan

    4 жыл бұрын

    And why do so many ignorant ass people talk about the 5.0 being simple?? Do you stupid assholes even realize it's NOTHING at all the same as the old Windsor based 5.0 (302)!? This thing has massive twin cam, four valve per cylinder heads, dual fuel injection (8 port injectors and 8 direct injectors), variable valve timing and loads and loads of other, very high tech items. Hell these things in the mustangs (and a truck with a good tuner) wind out to over 7,000 rpm's stock! Do you realize what would happen to the old crappy ass Windsor based 5.0 of you wound it out to 7,000 rpm's? Lol hell those motors were well known to crack the block into two pieces at 500hp which luckily took a good bit of work to get that. These new coyote 5.0's run 1,000 hp on the stock block all day long.

  • @multivisao
    @multivisao5 жыл бұрын

    3.55 vs 3.31 -> this is NOT apples to apples!

  • @jasonlarsen3515

    @jasonlarsen3515

    5 жыл бұрын

    HellBoy 2.7 vs 5.0 isn’t apples to apples either.

  • @ForTehNguyen

    @ForTehNguyen

    5 жыл бұрын

    rear gear ratio doesnt matter as much as it used to for mpg when you have those 8-10 speed transmissions

  • @enjoylife7030

    @enjoylife7030

    5 жыл бұрын

    But they were both BLUE!

  • @guyforlogos

    @guyforlogos

    5 жыл бұрын

    It still may be apples to apples. Ford, and all the manufacturers, install different gear sets based on the power curve of each engine. The std gear set is different for each of the tested engines. I believe they said each one did have the std gear set. So the engineers figured out what should be equal based on the radically different power delivery of the 2.7 turbo compared to the 5.0 n/a.

  • @NukePooch1

    @NukePooch1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ForTehNguyen Agreed. The 10spds negate much of a difference.

  • @slbynum
    @slbynum5 жыл бұрын

    I agree with most people saying about the 5.0 V8 is the way to go. Let’s face it, if you know anything about turbos, they will fail long before the motor does. KaChing!$$

  • @supadoopa926

    @supadoopa926

    5 жыл бұрын

    Read up on low mileage 5.0 failures, the Ecoboost seems to be the way to go for 2018 and up. I have a 2016 Coyote, but if I were to buy another one today it would be an EB all the way. www.f150forum.com/f118/2018-f150-5-0l-excessive-oil-consumption-tsb-2058-a-440924/ www.f150forum.com/f118/wwyd-first-month-engine-trouble-445218/

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well it’s obvious that you don’t know anything about the 2.7

  • @chrismcfee6785
    @chrismcfee67855 жыл бұрын

    the Tow mirrors on the Lariat are optional on both the XLT and the Lariat. standard mirrors on the lariat are the same as the XLT just painted outside cover and i think an extra LED light in them. These trucks are optioned very different. not a very close comparison if you are comparing the trucks themselves in the beginning of the video. Just a little more research in what is actually standard in the lariat then what is optioned in it. Great videos!

  • @SoundFX09
    @SoundFX095 жыл бұрын

    So, to Summarize: + The 2.7 L Ecoboost V6 was not as Fuel-Efficient, but had Better Acceleration, Passing Capability, and the Quietest Cabin in terms of Noise. + The 5.0 L Coyote V8 was more Fuel-Efficient, but was slightly Noisier, had not as Good Acceleration, and the Passing Capabilities were somewhat limited. Purely from a MPG Standpoint, the Coyote V8 Pulls off the Upset. However, the Ecoboost V6 continues to impress with it's Superior Acceleration and Quieter Operation. However, this Video is more of a Testament to how Balanced these two Engines are. You really can't go wrong picking either of them. Do you want the Reliability of a V8 with all the Noise and Power to go with it? Or do you want the Ecoboost V6 That is Both Quiet and Efficient, while having the power necessary to handle almost anything you can throw at it? I personally would still pick the Ecoboost V6 due to it's excellent Price-to-Performance, but the V8 remains, in my book, the Go-To Option for those looking for a Reliable and Consistent Engine that can do everything you want or need it to do. Hope this helps.

  • @stephenpowstinger733

    @stephenpowstinger733

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Ecoboost must have a high, flat torque curve vs the V-8.

  • @stevencruz4937

    @stevencruz4937

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree it depends what you are looking for. If you tow often and far, then V8. If not the 6 is better.

  • @tylerfineman8967

    @tylerfineman8967

    5 жыл бұрын

    The only bummer is you can't get a supercrew long bed 4x4 with the 2.7. Only 5.0 coyote or 3.5 ecoboost and the 3.5 is about the same unladen efficiency as the V8

  • @f688xt6
    @f688xt65 жыл бұрын

    Understand, EcoBoost is Eco or Boost, but not both at the same time.

  • @coltonmcrae5873

    @coltonmcrae5873

    5 жыл бұрын

    As the owner of a 3.5L ecoboost, this is 100% correct. I can pass anyone I want even with a trailer on, but my god will she suck fuel. But cruising? She sips it. Considering it's primary job is getting me to work, and only towing maybe 10% of the time, I'm happy with the trade-off.

  • @tedschmitt178

    @tedschmitt178

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's all in how they're driven.

  • @Michael_Scott_Howard

    @Michael_Scott_Howard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rapid acceleration will always increase fuel consumption regardless of the power source .. be is piston, electric, steam, chemical rocket. basic physics...

  • @terrymoberg3935
    @terrymoberg39355 жыл бұрын

    Really like watching your videos. I have a comment, actually more like a question. I see you guys do a lot of testing towing trailers, do you ever compare trucks just using payload in the box?

  • @kingdaniel3519

    @kingdaniel3519

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, they don't.

  • @BReal-10EC
    @BReal-10EC5 жыл бұрын

    I have an 18 2.7 F150. It's Eco or Boost. Not both at the same time. You can seriously ecomile the 2.7 on the highway for upper 20s... which is insane to me as I remember the older trucks. heck, even my 2wd 3.0 5 speed Ranger couldn't match that.

  • @sketchyssk8shop
    @sketchyssk8shop5 жыл бұрын

    Do you guys use baffles in those water tanks? As a professional trucker ive carried a load of those totes. Unbaffled they snatched my trailer around. That may be the source of the porpusing you were experiencing

  • @paulrodrigues9603

    @paulrodrigues9603

    5 жыл бұрын

    Iasked that before (I was a fuel oil truck driver before and liquid moves) and didn't answer me either. They should use solid cement blocks secured to a pallet.

  • @duradim1

    @duradim1

    5 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts also. Rating hauling performance with liquid as a ballast is not typical. That being said, at least they are staying consistent.

  • @kmullie
    @kmullie5 жыл бұрын

    How does the 3.5L ecoboost compare on the same loop? Great series of videos guys!

  • @billybeemus3929

    @billybeemus3929

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have the 2018 3.5L and tow a 30' camper (7500lbs) all over the Colorado mountains. I average right at 10mpg consistently when towing. I probably drive slower than they do though.

  • @kmullie

    @kmullie

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@billybeemus3929 I have the 2010 5.4l v8 and get about 8.5-10mpg towing my 7500lb Lacrosse 30ft trailer as well. when I am on the prairies though, it is closer to 6.5 or 7mpg due to the winds.

  • @NukePooch1

    @NukePooch1

    5 жыл бұрын

    2017 3.5 F150 got 9.1 MPG. Same weight, different trailer. www.tfltruck.com/2018/06/mpg-challenge-most-efficient-truck-towing-listed-specs/

  • @jasonyoung6420
    @jasonyoung64205 жыл бұрын

    the 3.55's in the 2.7EB probably helped with acceleration far more than they hurt fuel economy thanks to the 10spd. What RPM were you turning at 70mph in each truck? were you in or out of boost while cruising? 1000 ft above sea level will also give the boosted truck a significant edge. I think for truck buyers out there, the best move you can make is to test drive all three engine configurations and see which you like better, they will all be around the same to run in the end (aside from the raptor of course, that thing is abysmal on fuel, because, tires) Also thanks to the 10spd you can get away with steeper gears without impact fuel economy much if at all.

  • @oquirrhlight
    @oquirrhlight3 жыл бұрын

    4x4 vs. 4x2 isnt exactly apple to apples. A 4x4 drivetrain makes all the difference when it comes to fuel efficiency. I will wait to see your comparison when you test similar drivetrains.

  • @robertfoghis773
    @robertfoghis7735 жыл бұрын

    The 5.0L is a great engine. However it feels like it's the old guy around, a little slower and a little lazier than the young guys, the EcoBoost. They have so much more to give in terms of power. Great video guys big fan!

  • @josephwhiskeybeale
    @josephwhiskeybeale5 жыл бұрын

    I have to go V8, because I live at sea level, I don’t tow, and I’m a caveman and V8 sound good!!!

  • @dant387
    @dant3875 жыл бұрын

    I just drove from ND to PA & back, about 2,400 miles round trip, in my 2014 5.0 4 door short bed 4x4 with a 3.55 rear. I got 19.5 avg mpg according to my on board display & 19.9 avg mpg when I calculated it. I did between 65-80 MPH the whole trip

  • @justinluttrell1769
    @justinluttrell17695 жыл бұрын

    Not a surprise. That Coyote in this lighter truck is a straight up mpg champ. Hands down. My 2015 with 2WD, 3.31 axle, and the "old" 6spd trans gets 23.8 (25.1 indicated) mpg on the freeway at 71mph all day every day. I towed a loaded motorcycle uhaul trailer with it and got an indicated 23 something, but the funny thing is I just recently bought a 6x12 single axle utility trailer and it lost like 5mpg on average from the same route unloaded. Also, I couldn't help but notice the LED lights on the mirrors and rear of the XLT, I wasn't aware an XLT could be optioned in such a way? I thought you used to have to get a Lariat to get those sexy LED tail lights.

  • @ShersGarage
    @ShersGarage5 жыл бұрын

    Everyone talking about gearing and mpg. I think difference is negligible with 10 speed auto. 3.31 or 3.55, even 3.73.

  • @nvrdwn3140

    @nvrdwn3140

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was the elevation that gave the 5.0 better mpg. Less air = less fuel

  • @sonictech1000

    @sonictech1000

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nvrdwn3140 That might be true if they were testing at full throttle but not when traveling at the same speed. At any given speed the trucks are overcoming about the same wind resistance and friction and thus need to burn about the same amount of fuel and thus mix it with about the same amount of air.

  • @NukePooch1

    @NukePooch1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep, agreed.

  • @nvrdwn3140

    @nvrdwn3140

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sonictech1000 That's not true. That truck wont be making the same power at any given rpm as at sea level due to less air and thus less fuel.

  • @sonictech1000

    @sonictech1000

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nvrdwn3140 And the driver will open up the throttle more which allows more air in at any given rpm resulting in the same amount of air, fuel, and power.

  • @stuffjunk5019
    @stuffjunk50195 жыл бұрын

    The 2.7 is more meant for an empty daily driver. The thing gets 400 pound feet of torque at 2,750 rpm. 400 pound feet of torque is almost useless on a daily driver if it comes in at 4500 rpm like it does on the 5.0.

  • @kingdaniel3519

    @kingdaniel3519

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes. The 5.0 is a good all around engine but the old 5.4 was better suited for towing. It made 80% of its torque around 2700 rpm and peak torque at 3250. Hit for hit, the 5.4 generates more power than a 5.0 till 4200 rpm. Unfortunately, people think that because it's a V8 it has to be fast, and that is one of the loudest complaints about the 5.4, it's slow. But people don't take the time to learn how it can be so powerful and still feel slow. It's easier to just piss and moan in ignorance, I guess.

  • @stuffjunk5019

    @stuffjunk5019

    5 жыл бұрын

    Seems like they tune the 5.0 to such a high RPM to make the Ecoboosts look better then.

  • @kingdaniel3519

    @kingdaniel3519

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@stuffjunk5019 That's not how it's tuned, it's how it's designed. The 5.0 was designed with the Mustang in mind, not the F150. All a 5.0 is is a bored over 4.6, and that was designed for the Mustang as well.

  • @paulhunter9613

    @paulhunter9613

    2 жыл бұрын

    @stuff Having 400lbft of torque down low like in the 2.7 is what a truck is sposed to have to pull loads with. The 5.0 has to spool up to 4000 rpm to reach that torque , It’s an engine from a car...

  • @stuffjunk5019

    @stuffjunk5019

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paulhunter9613 One issue with the 2.7 people have found is the stock intercooler won't cut it if you want to tow a lot, i actually just upgraded mine the other day. I can tell a difference on long trips and such, feels like it retains it power for the duration.

  • @Leggir
    @Leggir5 жыл бұрын

    Just pulled a new 30' x 8.5' cargo trailer 4.5 hours on a freeway in Alberta doing 70 mph, 91 octane fuel, and a 10 mph headwind. Averaged 40.3 L/100 km or 5.83 MPG US. Glad it's the company paying for that and not me, yikes. This truck is a 2018 F150 Lariat w/2.7L Ecoboost. Currently about 45000 miles on the Odometer.

  • @Leggir

    @Leggir

    5 жыл бұрын

    When I'm not towing that trailer I average 17 mpg us.

  • @kingdaniel3519

    @kingdaniel3519

    5 жыл бұрын

    That is a lot of trailer. Unless it was empty it wouldn't surprise me to discover it was overweight for that truck.

  • @Leggir

    @Leggir

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kingdaniel3519 Its a heated/AC trailer. Other than that, I had a 700 lb item on a pallet near the front.

  • @kingdaniel3519

    @kingdaniel3519

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Leggir So basically empty. Still though, that's a lot of trailer for the 2.7.

  • @Leggir

    @Leggir

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kingdaniel3519 Too much actually. I'd rather a 1-ton dually. Taking the same demo 900 miles tomorrow, but renting a 14'x7' trailer instead.

  • @OliG2
    @OliG25 жыл бұрын

    I find it very funny that in the comments a vast majority of people say they prefer the V8, but in reality the best selling F150 engine by far is the 2.7 and by combining both Ecoboost engines' sales, about 70% are sold with an Ecoboost engines...pretty ironic don't you think?

  • @russellrogers3260
    @russellrogers32605 жыл бұрын

    I knew that was going to happen. It was one or two years ago you did a half ton truck mpg battle. The GMC 6.2 won that year.

  • @sugonmaballs

    @sugonmaballs

    5 жыл бұрын

    The issue with the 6.2 though is that it pretty much requires (recommended per the manual - else it may ping/knock is what it says in my Yukon Denali's manual) premium (93 octane) fuel to get the best mileage and power and that's not the case with these Ford engines or even the rest of GM's truck engines. With the average fuel cost increase of around 60 cents more per gallon over regular (87 octane) fuel, that more than negates any potential MPG improvement on the 6.2. I don't know why TFL never even mentions that in any of their comparisons with the 6.2 from what I've seen anyways and I've seen pretty much all of their vids the past few years.

  • @russellrogers3260

    @russellrogers3260

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sugonmaballs I thought "most" force inducted motors suggest high octane as well

  • @sugonmaballs

    @sugonmaballs

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@russellrogers3260 Some do, some don't. None of Ford's Ecoboosts engines (except maybe their HO 3.5 in the Raptor or GT) recommend or require it though for their power and/or mileage ratings though, whereas that's not the case on the 6.2L either. The premium fuel requirement is usually on higher compression engines regardless of how they're aspirated.

  • @dkbgeek

    @dkbgeek

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sugonmaballs Untrue. Ford specifies that premium fuel is used to attain the rated HP/torque numbers on the Ecoboost, and recommends it for maximum performance. That said, if I know I'm not going to be towing for most or all of a tank, I generally run mid-grade through mine. I tow a 7k-lb trailer and like to go to the mountains... even for normal towing, you'd probably never notice the difference from being down a few horsepower but it would reduce your available power somewhat to burn lower-octane fuel under heavy load.

  • @tomjahn6896

    @tomjahn6896

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dkbgeek actually Ford does recommend 87, and nothing more to get the numbers they advertise

  • @Josh-uf1rv
    @Josh-uf1rv5 жыл бұрын

    The ecoboost is a all around better towing experience and unloaded driving is better. It drives and pulls at a lower rpm. I personally know of a EB ranch truck with 175k no problems. The NA engines are dying.

  • @Soulintent95
    @Soulintent9511 ай бұрын

    Love how the grill on the v8 is body painted. I have a 2018 xlt, the front end is identical to the 2.7l truck shown but i have a 3.5. Wish the grill on my truck was body painted. That lariat front end is lame otherwise though.

  • @IanSizzler
    @IanSizzler5 жыл бұрын

    Already got one 👍

  • @nickschaps4022
    @nickschaps40225 жыл бұрын

    That MPG difference could definitely be attributed to the rear end. But, that also probably helped with the quick acceleration and passing power. I have a coyote now, replacing my wife’s car with a 2.7L next year

  • @mattdavies3023
    @mattdavies30235 жыл бұрын

    NATHAN ! Automatic mirrors fella. Don’t yank them out 😬

  • @moose2934

    @moose2934

    5 жыл бұрын

    Won't harm them

  • @barbier.family
    @barbier.family4 жыл бұрын

    Would love for you guys to do a video of the three engine choices of trucks, without a trailer. Yeah towing is great and all but a lot of people spend 90% of their time with the truck not hauling anything more than my kids backpack on the way to school. I need a new truck and want to know real-world city mpg differences between a 2.7, 3.5 and 5.0!

  • @SomeTechGuy666
    @SomeTechGuy6665 жыл бұрын

    That little 2.7L Ecoboost is pretty amazing. The old non intercooled DI 7.3s (pre 1999) were 210 HP, 425 Ftlbs of torque. That 2.7L is 325HP, 400 FtLbs of torque. It won't last as long, but man that is a lot of power/torque from a small engine. I'd love to see a pull off between the 2.7 Eco boost and a pre 1999 7.3, just to see how far truck engines have come.

  • @tedschmitt178

    @tedschmitt178

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who says it won't last as long? And please define "last".

  • @adampopour8491
    @adampopour84915 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see a test between all full sized 1500 trucks at a cost less than 50k dollars instead of top trim levels.

  • @AJGT350
    @AJGT3505 жыл бұрын

    The sticker prices on that truck is insane. $65k? You can get a new GT350 for less than that. Obviously there's always incentives for trucks that will make it cheaper in the end but them sticker prices tho

  • @paulrodrigues9603

    @paulrodrigues9603

    5 жыл бұрын

    never pay sticker.

  • @AJGT350

    @AJGT350

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@paulrodrigues9603 Lol really? I had no idea

  • @GgRae-gv1tg
    @GgRae-gv1tg3 жыл бұрын

    Just traded my 2013 F150 5.0 Platinum. Loved the 5.0 and have many of the 302/5.0 in a 73 Grand Torino, 69 Mustang, several F150s, I never thought I would get a 6, that is until I drove one. Just got a 2020 F150 King Ranch with the 3.5 EB. Spunky and easy to drive. Stout is the word. V8 yeah sounds mean..so what..395hp 470lb torque oh yeah 😎

  • @isaacsmiranda4902
    @isaacsmiranda49025 жыл бұрын

    Yes it is 2019 Velocity Blue Ford F150 3.7L V6 XLT 225 Hp 24 HighWay Gauge Cluster Panoramic Sunroof MPG Number Is=8.7 $54,584 Vs 2019 Velocity Blue Ford F150 Lariat 5.0L V8 395 Hp 400 Torque 10 Speed Automatic Transmission 22 Combined Gauge Cluster High-End Step MPG Number Is= 9.8 $64,555 Compact Ulimate Halfton Truck Best Selling Truck Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @marks6072
    @marks60725 жыл бұрын

    I would love to know how that 2.7 L eco-boost fares after 100,000 miles on the odometer

  • @finncampeau4922

    @finncampeau4922

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mark S great

  • @larrybe2900

    @larrybe2900

    5 жыл бұрын

    IMO based on history and the changes in the second gen fuel delivery I think it will fare well.

  • @mikefoehr235

    @mikefoehr235

    5 жыл бұрын

    Will need a timing chain or some other catastrophic repair...it is a FORD afterall

  • @1FiftyOverland

    @1FiftyOverland

    5 жыл бұрын

    Got mine new in 2015, 72,400 miles zero issues. And I drive hard on and off road. Even towed with it a few times

  • @1FiftyOverland

    @1FiftyOverland

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mikefoehr235 doubtable

  • @tivowillieb
    @tivowillieb5 жыл бұрын

    Would have been nice to see the same loop mpgs for each truck with no load. And would have loved to have seen the 3.5L turbo in there also!

  • @fordmud

    @fordmud

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, I'm actually glad they used the 2.7l vs the 5.0l since they are very similar in torque. The 3.5l just smokes the 5.0l in torque so one would assume it should use more gas. This just seems like a better a comparison for mpgs.

  • @briannelson2818
    @briannelson28185 жыл бұрын

    Where have the empty mpg loops? I figured the Ecoboost would’ve used more fuel towing, it gave you better acceleration then the v8. Empty I would expect the Ecoboost to provide better mpg as long as your easy on the boost.

  • @jmbman
    @jmbman5 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever thought about doing both a unloaded and a loaded comparison? I am curious too see what the trucks get running without a load.

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