As soon as you pull production from China I’ll be ordering. Please make it happen sooner!!

@redtitan29

Жыл бұрын

Typed on your computer or phone........that's made in China.

@FlatPlaneCranky

Жыл бұрын

@@redtitan29 I step at a time. It’ll take one swing at a time, dropping made in China. I will persevere and hope it’ll influence others and turn this good ship🇺🇸around. USA!!

@5.43v

Жыл бұрын

CPX Pump is now on the market too

@FlatPlaneCranky

Жыл бұрын

@@5.43v what is the CPX pump?

@bxp1696

8 ай бұрын

And if it was more expensive because it was made here in USA, then you would have complained about its price, and you would have said "As soon as you drop price, I'll be ordering". When you are in trial phase of manufacturing a product, cost is a very important factor. Once you've been able to make the product and it has tested good, then you can afford to make the product in USA. I don't think SS is taking away any jobs.

Awesome job! Will be getting one for my 2022!

Thanks Luke for the great info!!👍...been running your DPK but knowing there is a better & permanent solution to the CP4 has really eased my mind....that's why I pre-ordered the DCR & your update has reaffirmed my decision!...thanks again👍💪💯

Well said. I appreciate your team’s efforts. I look forward to getting one.

Your knowledge is very impressive! Kudos to you mate.

great quality parts from our partners!! keep em coming yall!!.

You guys are the bomb ! THANK YOU ! Do you have any new forecast as too when the release date will be for the DCR yet ? Nothing was said in the video as the preview described about it. I know originally it was suggested in the 2nd quarter sometime. Keep up the awesome works guys.

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. We're shooting for June, but we're not going to rush it. We want to make sure it's flawless before we release it.

Great content and concept 👌 👏

I ordered the dpk but I will be getting this too when you release it for my 2020.

Found the vid not only informative but 👍 to watch. 2016 F250 72K miles and sweating bullets. Doing LOF every 5 k, FF every 10K, Hot Shot EDT every tank for improving lubricity. Still sweating bullets. Hope they ship soon. Thanks SS

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

We will start shipping on 6/15/23. Thank you.

I'm waiting for one.

game changer for sure

Lol ouch "we focus on fuel systems, not transmission and other parts" poor cpx too little too late. Glad you guys addressed all of the attempted gotchas.

Thank you for the video! Answered more questions the Ford ever has! I have a 2016 F350 6.7. From about the 20k mile mark, when towing 5th wheel or boat, or anything! The truck will intermittently Buck, Cutout, feels like the Tranny is falling out it it’s so Violent, I thought it broke the 5th wheel hitch one time. Ford could never duplicate, stating it’s the tranny Shift points, flash the computer??? I now have 148k, some trips never happens, others it’s routine. I have to pull over shut truck down. Recently friend who bought 2016 2 months after me, has the same problem. Under warranty Ford has had Tech from Factory ride in truck while towing! Watch cylinders drop out on scan when it happens! They have replaced his Tranny? Problem still there. They then state it’s the Fan clutch? Still there. He has told them we believe it’s fuel related, possibly CP-4 failing, just KZread it??? Last week they finally decide to remove Mprop! No shavings or metal? They decided to replace the High pressure relief control valve on the drivers side rail. Re-test while towing 5th wheel, power restored, never bucked, he said ran like new??? We are both on list for DCR. My problem is if I replace High pressure relief control valve, mprop, even rail? Why did this happen, what’s causing it? Will it happen again? Could it be related to the CP4 or a bad rail orifice or what? Recently when full time in 5th wheel after retirement! Need my truck!!! Thanks for trying to fix this!!!

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on your retirement. To our knowledge, a bad DRV (pressure regulating valve on the rail) is not a common issue with the 6.7 Power Stroke, but anything is possible. The bucking you are describing could be rail surge. Data logging desired rail pressure and actual rail pressure would indicate if you have a rail pressure issue. Both graphs should overlay each other, if not then it would point to the MPROP or DRV. The DRV is really good at cleaning up (venting) rail surge, even if the MROP is bad. For that reason, we would start with the DRV first. As for the Ford 6.7 DCR, it has been designed to match the pump curve of the CP4 and will work perfectly with your existing rail and DRV. It will come with new supply/return lines and high pressure lines to the rail. Thank you for choosing S&S!

@afj2082

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Thank You!!! For your time, and Effort in Engineering a Product, that’s actually going to last!!! Unlike, the Bosch CP4 Ticking Frag G****DE, that Bosch Haphazardly Put out Into the Market!!!

@dieseldreww

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't Bosch"s fault but Ford's for selecting and using the CP4 after they were advised not to ! They tried going cheap just to pass emissions ! They will get their due in court soon my friend(s) !

So Im ASE certified Master Tech and retired contractor from Ford which which is worth a bag of peanuts lol. Please buy from this company if you google search the disaster kits for 6.7 Ford diesels you will see tons of clones :-( ... Do yourself a favor and buy the any of the SS kits for your needs, when you see all of the equipment they use for research and fitment you diminish their efforts to then to make the next best thing.

@SSfueled

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, Roger!

Tks for all you guys are doing, how long until I can get an American made pump?

@SSfueled

7 ай бұрын

It's hard to say exactly. The US plant is up and running and we are getting batches from both plants, currently. It will not be a hard stop/start, but a gradual transition from one plant to the other. The part numbers are the same, so there is not a definite way to tell when you get your pump. As of right now, the chances of getting a US-made pump are slim, but that will change as time goes on.

Mr Luke. MY name is GLENN GLOVER and we work at indiana transport and we haul campers . We just lost a piece of crap cp 4 and it went down. They told us that it was our fault. I do not think it was anyway 12.000 dallors and a tow from effingham Illinois. . We run anywhere from 100.00 to 200.000 a year, we own a 3500 Ford 2019. I would be glad to give one of your pumps a workout test for you. We will see together how tough it is and tell the world. If you hit me back I will contact you. Thanks again GLENN GLOVER.

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

We hate to hear that story, but we'll do what we can to keep it from happening again. Please send us an email to info@ssdiesel.com. Include your contact info and one of our Technical Sales Reps will get back with you. Thanks for speaking up.

I appreciate the honesty. I was under the impression these pumps we're soule designed and made right here in America. Come to find out all yall did was take a already existing design called it yalls, also it's made it CHINA!?. And the kicker is it doesn't have a long track record. It may work flawlessly now but what about in ten yrs? Glad i seen this i ordered a dcr yesterday and i will be canceling that order tomorrow.

@SSfueled

8 ай бұрын

We would love to have you as a customer, but we would much-rather you know exactly what you are spending your money on. The DCR base pump has been used on large engines outside of the US, but the variant for the 6.7 Power Stroke has been modified to meet our specifications. Our speciality is the testing, modification, and practical integration of common rail diesel fuel systems. We do not manufacture pumps or injectors from base raw materials. We only trust large companies like Bosch and Stanadyne for that, yet we work closely with both companies to modify their existing pumps and injectors to suit our needs. The base DCR pump was designed in the USA and is made in China, yet the Ford variant was developed by S&S and PurePower in the USA. We're not just re-branding a Stanadyne DCR. We put a lot of our resources (testing equipment and engineering staff) into the development of the complete Ford 6.7L DCR conversion that will drop right in, which is why we put our name on it. Current Ford DCR production is in China for now, but a US plant is in the works. We don't have an exact timeline on that, but we'll be sure to let the community know when that happens. We're actually a very patriotic company and prefer to work with US suppliers whenever we can, yet we will always choose the best solution to a problem... which in this case, is the DCR. S&S and Ford truck owners, both, have created a market for the Ford DCR here in the USA and can take pride in bringing manufacturing back to the USA.

My truck is sitting at a local ford dealership. No check engine lights on or anything, and it started out as complete loss of power that would only be for a split second, then intermittent bucking/misfiring, then got worse. It will start and idle, but as soon as you give it a little fuel, it'll stall out. Long story short, im looking at the entire fuel system, but i know for ONE THING. I'll be putting in the DCR pump!!!

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

We hate to hear that you're truck is down and needing an entire fuel system. Shoot an email over to info@ssdiesel.com and we'll try to hook you up with a dealer that has a DCR Conversion in stock.

I know many put fass/air dogs on cp4 trucks for added filtration. Would the dcr benefit from a lift pump on an otherwise stock fuel truck or is stock filtration adequate. Hoping my cp4 can hold out on my 19 till I can get a dcr. Holding up on a disaster prevention kit to put the money toward the new pump.

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

In most cases, the stock supply pump/filtration is our preference, especially for the 6.7 Power Stroke. Not taking anything away from aftermarket pumps and filters, but the OEs spend millions on filtration development.

Will this work on a 23/24 high output 6.7?

@SSfueled

8 ай бұрын

The new 23+ engines use a new R113 CP4 that has more displacement (roughly 1130 mm3/rev). This is quite an increase over the previous R99 (996 mm3/rev) and we need to make sure the DCR can match the output. We are confident that the DCR will not have any issues since it is 1250 mm3/rev, but we want to thoroughly test to be sure. We have added a 2023 HO to our development fleet and will keep the market updated on our progress. You can sign up for email notifications at the bottom of our home page: www.ssdiesel.com

With it being designed/manufactured in europe, india, china.. does it mean that it was built to require the same high oil/sulfur based diesel that those countries use. Just as the cp4 was produced for the same market before it came to tge states?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

That's a good question. The DCR design is not dependent on high-sulfur fuel. In fact it handles JP8, a very dry fuel military fuel, better than a CP3. We have many pumps out in the field in North America, and will be getting them back to inspect for issues before we cut the DCR loose in the market.

I just retired from a large manufacturer that had global plants including China. Their largest quality control issues came from China, when will the US version be available?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

We do not have an exact date at this time, but we have confirmed with Stanadyne that it will be happening. We'll do our best to keep the market updated. In regards to potential quality control issues, all Ford 6.7L DCR Conversions will come with our 2-year, unlimited-mile warranty. As Luke was saying in the video, we are extremely cautious of what we put our name on.

Here's one more "?"...I follow a regiment of adding fuel treatment (Hotshots EDT) at every fill up, should I keep this practice going with the DCR pump?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Improved lubricity is never a bad thing, but it is not required for the DCR to function properly. All US-based testing and validation has been done with straight #2 diesel. The 700,000 + pumps that have been in service overseas for the last 9 years may see better or worse fuel quality, depending on the regulations. We don't foresee any negative effects with running a tested lubricity additive, if you want to spend the money. Our data shows that clean diesel is sufficient.

Is this unit end user installable. Do you have a procedure for the replacement process?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Yes. It will come with detailed instructions and we will have an install video on our channel.

Just a recommendation but would you guys also try retro fitting the pump to a 6.4 power stroke?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea. We'll run it past the engineering team.

@davidreyes2298

Жыл бұрын

@@SSfueled thanks!

It would be awesome if you had recommended install companies in each state. So many of us need this it's not funny. My 2016 f350 dually has 136,000 miles on her towing rvs her whole life,2nd owner here but 1st owner was as meticulous as me from what I can tell. Thank you!

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

That's a great idea. Many of our dealers also have drive in repair shops, but we do not have "recommended installers" noted on our dealer map. Thank you for the suggestion. You can access our dealer map here: ssdiesel.com/dealers/

@rvadventures

Жыл бұрын

@@SSfueled I live in Hernando county fl I see guys like (arod) on KZread and others that are ford guys but not sure where their shops are. Thx

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

@@rvadventures Arod is up in Michigan. Holder's Diesel is a Power Stroke specialist in Sarasota and Donalson Diesel in Tallahassee does good work too.

@CPsGarage

Жыл бұрын

​@@rvadventures I'm in Winter Haven but work out of Rainman Rays shop in Sarasota for any heavy repairs. Light duty stuff I do at home. FordbossMe is in Chicago and Bearded Ford Tech is in North Carolina. Powerstroke tech talk with Arod is in Livonia Michigan. If you would like any of us to install any S&S products or other parts we all have are emails listed in our channels about tab.

@rvadventures

Жыл бұрын

@@CPsGarage I'm currently in north Carolina working until Sept 15th . Waiting on the dcr pump. I didn't want to pre order and have $1990.00 sitting in limbo incase I'm moved to another state

Whats the rough cost for a shop to install this great piece of hardware? I know it's $2k for the product.

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Our field test partners have reported 4-6 hours to install a DCR. The cost will vary depending what the shop's labor rate is.

I am looking forward to get one to replace my CP4 on my ‘18 with 65K miles. I was going to get your disaster kit Gen 2 but with the pump coming I figure I would save $400 and put that to the replacement pump. Dumb question, do you need the disaster kit for this pump?

@dgc7321

Жыл бұрын

no

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

David is correct. You do not need a Disaster Prevention Kit with a DCR pump. Based on 9 years of being in the field, and our own validation in the 6.7 Power Stroke, chances of failure are very unlikely. We've learned over the years that anything can happen and that no fuel system is perfect. The off chance a DCR does fail, it will not send fine metal debris on to the injectors.

When is the 2020 coming out?!

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

We don't have an exact timeline right now, yet we're currently testing DCRs in multiple 2020+ trucks and gathering data. Keep an eye on our social media channels (@SSfueled) to get the latest DCR updates. You can also sign up for our email list to get DCR notifications (www.SSdiesel.com/DCR).

Are there any tuning or harmonic issues with the DCR Pump?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Great question. We used our pump testing equipment to determine the amperage to output curve of the CP4 and then modified the DCR to match that curve. The DCR is completely plug and play and will operate the same as a CP4. It does not require any tuning changes and validation testing has not shown any issues related to rail pressure control. As for harmonics, no issues have been found in many miles and months of validation.

How does this compare to some of the 10mm CP4 stroker pumps for people with modified VGT and non-VGT turbos?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

As Luke was saying in the video, the DCR has 25% more displacement if the calibration calls for it. The pump by itself will not make any more power.

@cjchico

Жыл бұрын

@@SSfueled So would this pump support the same setup that a 10mm CP4 would?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

@@cjchico We're not sure. Since we developed this conversion to replace stock pumps, we have not compared the max output to a 10mm CP4. In theory it would be close, since a 10mm is roughly 30% more displacement. An increase in displacement does not always equal the same increase in output, especially at high RPM, but they are closely related.

@jbyrd4559

Жыл бұрын

The Rcd cp4 10mm pumps says 33% more fuel on 15-19 Trucks 48% more fuel on 11-14 Trucks. Would the volume of the dcr be comparable? You said when demand is higher it will deliver but to what limit stock or 10mm cp4 comparison. Or are you saying it will deliver as much as the stock injector will allow based on demand.

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

@@jbyrd4559 Apologies for any confusion. The DCR has 25% more displacement than a 15-19 CP4. That *should* equate to 25% more potential fuel output, yet the stock calibration will never demand that much. Based on displacement alone, it will have 8% less potential fuel output than a 10.3 mm CP4.

So with this new pump you do not need to have the disaster kit? My truck is still under warranty for three years so instead of installing the disaster kit put that grand toward the new pump?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

That is correct. The DCR will not need, or be compatible with, the disaster prevention kit.

You need to present this pump to Ford and convince them to drop the CP4 and put this thing on the 6.7 powerstroke.

Will this need a California CARB EO and if so when will that be happening?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

We currently have a SEMA Cert (#SC-SDM01-0034) and we're in the process of getting a CARB EO. All of our extensive test data has been submitted, we're just patiently waiting for CARB to issue our EO number. We cannot say exactly when that will be, but everything is in motion.

I have the S&S kit installed on my truck. Will the disaster prevention kit work with this pump? Is the disaster prevention kit needed with this DCR pump.

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for choosing S&S. The Disaster Prevention Kit is not needed when installing the DCR conversion.

Do you know if this kit will work on the 2023 H.O. Trucks?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Great question. We have not tested on that year/model yet, but we'll add that to our 2020+ validation list and report back once we have data to confirm. Thanks for bringing it up.

@timrellis90

Жыл бұрын

@@SSfueled thank you!

What does DCR stand for? That would get nice to know

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Diesel Common Rail. It's simple and boring, but to the point.

When does 2020+ come out

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

We don't have an exact timeline right now, yet we're currently testing DCRs in multiple 2020+ trucks and gathering data. Keep an eye on our social media channels (@SSfueled) to get the latest DCR updates. You can also sign up for our email list to get DCR notifications (www.SSdiesel.com/DCR).

So I was just trying to order this through one of your dealers and they say they cant ship this to CA. Is this conversion change the smog emissions?

@SSfueled

4 ай бұрын

It is currently 49-state legal and we are working on getting a CARB EO number for the future.

@AlbeeSoaring

4 ай бұрын

@@SSfueled curious if I install it ahead of that who would know? 😆

@SSfueled

4 ай бұрын

@@AlbeeSoaring you can't tell by popping the hood or plugging in. We're doing emissions testing now on our 2023 for CARB exemption. We hope to have an EO number soon.

If you install the DCR do you still need the Disaster Prevention system too?

@MrNightraider

10 ай бұрын

They said in the comments it wasn’t needed do to the design of the new pump. If it was to fail, it doesn’t send debris to the injectors like the CP4 does.

@SSfueled

10 ай бұрын

The DPK is not needed with the DCR. The DCR does not have a hardened steel roller and cam to make debris, and the case does not feed into the plungers.

Does the DCR make more noise than the OEM CP4?

@SSfueled

5 ай бұрын

Out of the thousands of DCRs in service, we’ve had a small amount of reports of a ticking noise. With the DCR having less parasitic loss and less load on the gears than a CP4, excessive gear chatter can happen. It doesn’t come from the pump itself, but rather the pump gear and cam gear not having as much load at idle and during deceleration when compared to a CP4. We have not seen many "ticking" pumps, when compared to amount that are in use, but we'll do our best to determine a cause so that we can ensure all of our products are operating properly. From what we have found, so far, the noises that are present do not affect reliability or longevity. We are looking to see if there is a way to mitigate and/or eliminate this completely.

Sorry if someone has already asked this but why not just stick with the trusty CP3 conversion?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

A CP3 will not physically fit in the valley of a 6.7 Power Stroke.

@jameschristman6340

9 ай бұрын

Doesn't fit

Maybe you’ve answered this question already but what engines has the DCR been used on? I haven’t been able to find a straight answer on this.

@SSfueled

6 ай бұрын

The base DCR design has been used on Cummins engines in the Asian market since 2014. The Ford 6.7 variant is not the same exact pump, but uses the same base design.

So ultimately if Im looking at doing a disaster prevention kit I should just spend the extra money and do this instead and be done.

Sooo…how much?

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

$1990.00

Does anybody know what the actual rate of CP4 failures are on the Ford 6.7? There are tens of thousands of these trucks out there. How many pumps actually grenade?

@SSfueled

Ай бұрын

There is speculation in the industry that it could 5-7%, but there's no hard data to since Ford does not make that information public. There's enough failures for multiple lawsuits.

@remital6834

Ай бұрын

@@SSfueled Thanks for the reply. I'd hate to be in that ~6%. My truck sits alot. I only put on about 4K miles a year, so I'm concerned that my diesel fuel can become contaminated. I've been doing my homework and at minimum plan to get your DPK, but will consider the DCR once I get it apart. Maybe do a delete while I'm in there as well. (2012)

You're gonna be rich

I have questions on the price. Price of parts and cost of installation.

@UnderDogDiesel

7 ай бұрын

Where abouts are you located? I own UnderDog Diesel out of Indy.

@JakeKinman

7 ай бұрын

@bxp1696 Where are you located ? @huskerdiesel here in Nebraska

@brandonellis4297

7 ай бұрын

I manage D&K Services out of the West Georgia area! We’re an S&S dealer! I’d be more than happy to answer any questions or concerns my friend!

@PrestonBrenner

7 ай бұрын

We are a S&S Diesel Dealer and would be more than happy to assist you. Whereabouts are you located?

@dirtydieselcustom

7 ай бұрын

And if you're Canadian we're an S&S dealer out of British Columbia, would be happy to help you with an installation.

Release it already

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Orders will start shipping on 6/15/23.

Dammit. Made in China. That scares me to death.

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

We can understand your concern, since we've seen first hand the poor quality of Chinese knock-offs of our DPK. Like Luke said in the video, the DCR is made in a Stanadyne-owned plant with Stanadyne QC procedures. On top of that, PurePower and S&S are further-validating at both facilities in Indiana and South Carolina. All DCRs will come with our 2-year, unlimited-mile warranty. Rest assured, we will not put our name on a product that we are not confident in, which is exactly why we have never sold CP4s. We look forward to the US-based DCR plant, yet we have complete confidence in the Stanadyne's global manufacturing ability until that happens.

China!!!!😂😂😂😂😂 the main pump!!!

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

Yes, thanks for watching the video.

lol what a joke. You made a video knocking the hell out of the “cheap” disaster prevention kit. Now your promoting the China pump smh

@SSfueled

4 ай бұрын

The "cheap" disaster prevention kit is a knock-off of the S&S Disaster Prevention Kit that we designed. The DCR is a very robust and capable high-pressure that has only been made by Stanadyne, a reputable fuel system company with plants all over the world. The two are NOT the same. The DCR is not a cheap copy of a quality product, it IS a quality product that was designed in the USA by a team engineers, and it was made in China where the Cummins engines that use it are made. Thanks to all of our customers that trust S&S to deliver the best solution, there's now a market for the DCR in the USA... and Stanadyne has spooled up an assembly line in Blythewood, SC to support that market. We were there yesterday and here's the link to a quick video: kzread.info257YTy5tO-M?si=fnAcClHJhd3y4D0u A more detailed video will be published next week. We're extremely proud to play a role in bringing manufacturing back to the USA!

When will the US made version be available

@SSfueled

Жыл бұрын

We do not have an exact date at this time, but we have confirmed with Stanadyne that it will be happening. We'll do our best to keep the market updated. In regards to potential quality control issues, all Ford 6.7L DCR Conversions will come with our 2-year, unlimited-mile warranty. As Luke was saying in the video, we are extremely cautious of what we put our name on.

@AkJohn74

Жыл бұрын

@@SSfueled thank you for your response