These are the 5.4L 3v Phasers and Full Timing Kit I Recommend: Ford Phasers- amzn.to/2A9tUxi Full Ford Engine Timing Kit- amzn.to/3O3wtDM

@nilesable

6 жыл бұрын

That's the kit I bought (on your recommendation),and the Melling oil pump,and I have absolutely no regrets. It was actually way,way cheaper by far then buying it locally (Canadian eh),just had to take a bit of a drive over the bridge and pick it up at the UPS store.

@nilesable

6 жыл бұрын

Yes,the kit he recommends came with everything for the timing (sprockets,guides,tensionors,chains,phazers,front cover seals and crank seal),but while you're in their anyways do the oil pump,it's cheap insurance (yes I used the Melling),if you do it you'll need to get the valve cover gaskets,a tube of sealant,some blue lock-tite,and new crank/harmonic bolt separate (if you live in Canada the crank bolt price alone will make you faint,so order it from the States). I also did the VCT solenoids since the valve covers were off making them easily accessible. You accidentally typed 5.3 instead of 5.4 by the way. No issues at all,truck now runs amazing. I'll have to look through my books to see what the mileage (kilometers for me) was when we did it and what it is now.

@claycopopo

6 жыл бұрын

FordTechMakuloco what do you think about Melling components (phasers)? I know you like their HV oil pumps. Any recommendations for affordable hand held scan tools that will show cam/phaser timing? I have a Bosch 1150, and it won't show that.

@FordTechMakuloco

6 жыл бұрын

Yes only use Melling for the Oil Pump.

@jamesfinley5339

6 жыл бұрын

FordTechMakuloco

Seriously, you have got to be the best and most well spoken mechanic I've ever come across on all of this website. A big thank you for all your hard work and videos!

@FordTechMakuloco

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@locknload9143

2 жыл бұрын

@@FordTechMakuloco .I just pulled my valve covers and my Ford phaser is out almost 90°. Appreciate all your videos. I've learned more watching them then doing a 2 year Appreciate course with a dealership years ago!

Wow you convinced me! I'm glad you captured it red handed on camera. Yes techs should always spin the crank to confirm timing but extra attention must be paid to those phasers meanwhile. Great video! Thanks alot for sharing! 👍💪

My granddaughters 2008 focus has a trans issue and your video on the trans solenoids was a big help the D4 solenoid is out and your video was great.

Perfect video on why to use OEM parts. Wow you could do them timing chains and phasers in the dark I bet! fantastic shop and great work as always!

I rebuilt my 04 5.4l completely by your videos 12 k miles ago....I didn't fallow your advice on the aftermarket phasers and guess what I'm doing today. 😉 I wanted to thank you for the videos and your very good at step by step what to watch out for and do's and don'ts I couldn't have done it without you. Good work

@russtgrower750

4 ай бұрын

Im curious, i know its an old comment but did you soak them in oil before installing

Good to know, I had been wondering about aftermarket phasers. Thanks brian!

Brian thanks for the more frequent videos I enjoy anything Ford you and bill from powerstroke speciality pretty well can retire working on Ford trucks lol

thank you for all the great info.watched one of your other videos where you called out freedom racing you rock.keep it up the great videos.

I think you just saved people a whole lot of headache, and money with this video, Brian.

Thank you Brian. I appreciate your videos. Good job.

Thanks for that... I was just about to buy that cheap kit. Figured I'd do some research on what to avoid first. Glad I did

I just did this to my truck. Want to say thanks!!! I followed your 4 part series, and took notes, listend it to it on my way work just to stay on top of it. My F250 5.4 has 300,000 miles, I bought it with 100,000, and I have never done the timing at all. The heads we're just light yellowish brownish, kinda like a popcorn kernel. I have always used Mobil one synthetic 5-20, changed around 5000 miles,, sometimes even at 7500 a couple of times. Whoever decides to do this,, buy exactly what he tells you to buy in the list, and do exactly what he tells you do. My truck fired up, no problems, and went from 12.8 mpg to 14,, it's a heavy truck, has a service body. Thanks again Brian!!

@thuglivintv824

2 жыл бұрын

How long did it take you?

@chriscall3425

2 жыл бұрын

@@thuglivintv824 probably around 12 hours,, I would listen to his instructions and pause it every now and then. I took my time. There is a section when you apply gasket sealant, and I let that dry overnight.

Now, just like the Ford 6.0 diesels I have learned more than I wanted to know about 3v engines hahaha I worked for Ford dealer in the 90's and worked on plenty of 2v's & 7.3's..............Did a 5.4 3v couple weeks ago, that's how i found your channel Which was a life saver to say the least ! 5.4 had Dorman's but I found whoever installed them didn't torque them properly, Passengers phaser was moving 1/8th of an inch or more, due to sheared off pin in back and it wedged itself between then inside flat and end of the cam !! Luckily, I got away with only buying the cam gear lock tool and wedgie......... Now I just finished a 4.6 3v.....Got it together, it ran "ok" but kept tossing out DTC's P0012, P0022, bank 2 retarded... Well, tear it down again (I had a zipper on that nice front modular radiator /condensor assembly!) Eyeballing, the 6 o'clock on crank shaft was my error, so I bought the crank tool and got it all back together and running in 3 hours, Runs like a top ! back to full on power no codes everything functions to spec's now can send it back to the used car dealer who brought it to us... And I have convinced the boss to NOT Buy crappy A/M parts! He don't like to work for free, neither do I ! which is what happens when you use A/M parts!.............Hell, @ Ford I went thru 3 T-stats once right off the shelf to get a good 1 that worked ! So sometimes even genuine parts can fail right off the shelf Am sure I will be watching more of your video library as needed.....Like how in depth and direct your tell it in plain english lol

Other than these cam phasers and timing system these are actually good engines just a design flaw.5.3 chevys actually had more issues than these.

Man I just went through this same problem . I didn't know it untill l seen this video . I thank you for your time and knowledge. Your awesome

@russtgrower750

4 ай бұрын

Did you soak them in oil before installing?

Terrific video. Thanks much 👍

Great video, thanks for sharing! 👍🇺🇸

Glad I bought a ford complete timing kit for my 6.8l v10 2 valve

Hello, Excellent videos. I do like to watch you work on these trucks, I know you are a pro. I have to disagree on some points, I 100% agree we should not use china made knock offs, however, if Mortorcraft was any good, we would not have these problems on low mileage vehicles. I believe we need to find a better quality after market part since Motrocraft is the reason why we doing this so often.

Been there done that. I was supplied with cheap phasers and it came back to bite owner in the ass. He purchased better aftermarket parts and has had no trouble since. My advice, spend the money. And a big thing to prolong the life of those parts- keep up with youd oil changes. Thanks for bringing this into the light👍 Have watched many of your helpful videos.

@russtgrower750

4 ай бұрын

Did they get soaked in oil before installation?

I learned my lesson a long time ago.. MOTORCRAFT only!

Havent watched all your vids yet , they are Awesome by the way !! Quick question , is there a difference between an 05-08 head and cam to the 09-10 head and cam ? I have a 09 motor that has an original head with the new sparkplugs and one with the old sparkplugs ? Thx for the help !

Thabkyou so mich for this video it heló so mich this video i had a similar problem with the products of Amazon it toke me aprox 2 mins the truck and then it show me so many codes and i Didnt Know what to do and for youe video i think i finally find the problem of the truck god bless you and tha kyou so much for your video

Good video, thanks

Oh yeah, I would turn wrenches beside you any day. Your a standup mechanic who I enjoy watching.

I feel like the fact that pretty much all aftermarket timing parts for these engines are junk is a testament to the overall poor design of this engine (or at least its valvetrain). Obviously buying the cheapest replacement parts for any engine will yield poor results, but even the timing sets from Cloyes or a few other decent brands seem to fail in this engine. With many other types of engines, generally good real brand aftermarket parts (not eBay junk) will be cheaper AND of equal or sometimes higher quality than the OE parts, which leads me to believe that the inherent design of those other engines is just better. I could be wildly wrong, but that's just been my experience over the years. I currently have a 2007 F250 with the 5.4 and your videos have provided ample help for me throughout the process of replacing all of the timing components! Thank you so much!

thanks for this video.

Well they did the job right, but used crappy parts... love your vids man!!

2004 f150 cam phasors rattling like crazy. Started at 85,000 miles. It got so noisy I was embarresed to drive it. In Phoenix, not one independent garage would change them. Finally had to shop around ford dealers and found a Lincoln dealer who would do it. After some serious negotiations, I let them fix it for $1200 including Ford Phasors. It came back very quiet and ran noticeably smoother and better. Had to change some pulleys and the AC Comp. but that was easy. At 160,000 miles, the engine sound like new. And after several thousand miles, it is still quiet and smooth. Happy!!!!

@thuglivintv824

2 жыл бұрын

Was the rattling noise on and off or continuous ?

Great info! Never gonna use Dorman parts on my 4.6.

If you haven’t already. You should start your own business/shop. Nice work your doing great information you provide to all your viewers. We have 4. f-150s 98-5.4L, - 2008 4.6L , 2013 5.0L , 2016 3.5L All are still running fine. The one I let get away 4.9L still running to lol

@FordTechMakuloco

6 жыл бұрын

Yes I started BSG Automotive in 2015.

And his wife now has a huge "See, I told you so!" she'll never let him forget ;-)

Thank you! Knowing me I would have bought cheap

FordTechMakuloco - Absolutely love your videos! I wish I had run into them before I bought the 2004 I now have or before the ticking noise I was hearing finally broke something. Now thanks to you I have the valve cover off and the cam phase job I was hoping for turned into a bent intake valve and pulling the head. I know you are strong on recommending only Ford OEM parts for things like phasers. What about rebuild heads? Is a head from someplace Rockauto ok or if not what would you recommend?

I know I could do this myself following the videos, but sure am considering the drive from Houston perhaps once the summer heat passes by.

@FordTechMakuloco

6 жыл бұрын

Customers come from all over the United States to get this job done.

Thanks again !!!!

@FordTechMakuloco,i wish people would listen to you and fit the parts you use and recommend ,not cheap crappy parts that end up costing them loads more in the long term.

Hi i feel im a bit behind the times here but im in need of a kit but ford australia has informed me that these parts are now discontinued/obsolete. Cant find oem kits anywhere. Its funny they actually advised me to get aftermarket parts. Not so sure about that after listening to your advice. Cheers Greg I have a knock at idle that sounds like its under the front of the valley cover somewhere and a higher pitched knock at the front when i rev the engine. Still runs fine though.

You are the man!

All these cam phaser issues...makes so damn glad I hunted out a '98 F150 with a 2V 4.6...a half million kilometers and still runs strong as an ox and never has been opened up!

@lostinmyspace4910

6 жыл бұрын

I had a '98 F150 and it ran great w/ 200,000 miles until we sold it. Very reliable truck. We then bought a 2005 F150 and still own it, and going strong with 303,000 miles and never had a major repair at all. At 290,000 miles the starter had to be replaced, but everything else is original like the alternator, muffler, cat, converter, and tailpipe are original, and timing chain original. Electric window buttons on armrest were replaced. Yes, the cam phase sensor is ticking, but I never replaced it. Still runs great; a solid vehicle with great pickup and speed. I will use it until 350,000 then decide what to do next. I always use Royal Purple fully synthetic oil with a K & N filter. The cam phase sensor isn't throwing codes, so I do nothing.

@csaleen302

5 жыл бұрын

2006 F150 with 645,000 miles. 1 Timing chain and pahser replacement. Fluid changes are key

Great video, and I know name-brand parts from the dealership are high quality but man every dealership thinks they are made of gold with what they charge LOL. And I am skeptical buying part's from an auto store there is no way I will buy them from eBay unless I know it's a quality part.

Hi my name is Jean and I watch your videos all the time. You help me alot on my expedition. My question is, if my timing is clicking, do I have to Change the whole thing or can I just change the tensioners?

I have a 2008 Expedition with the 5.4 3V. I bought an OEM kit from that one company you don't like that sells the aftermarket kits. I replaced both phasers, VCTs, chains, tensioners, guides, crank sprocket, Water Pump and oil pump with the Melling 360 OH. Once installed, which I did following your videos and took pictures so I knew it was all correct, bank 1 was sketchy. 3 weeks of troubleshooting and it turned out to be a bad phaser that was supposed to be a ford part. I replaced it with one from the dealer and no problems. Now a few thousand miles later Bank 2 seems to be giving a problem. I borrowed an analyzer and have a short video but not sure how to upload. It shows a small difference between bank 1 and bank 2. The engine will shake and then stop running when brought to a slowdown or stop intermittently, seems I never have the scanner hooked up when it happens. Thinking I should just replace it, why would it go bad if it's supposed to be OEM. Wish I could upload the video

@thuglivintv824

2 жыл бұрын

Did you figure it out?

Thank you for keeping guiding us on how to do it in the right way, I just finished the camphasers job on my 2018 expy following the 4 parts videos you made. I used a newly designed version, guess what? They only last for 700 miles!!!!!!! It's really deep disappointment. Moreover, I have an HVA, and the valve rotor went bad cause the intake camshaft some small wears. Is there any advice to correct this punch of failures?

To much effort to do it twice! Great video!

So doing the whole kit you suggested on my 05 Rousch F150 found an open small vacuum line port that come from the pipe to the brake booster. Any suggestions on where to find a diagram to track this down. And thank you so much for your videos. You are an amazing resource.

Wow thanks for making these vids. I was actually going to buy the phaserz from where you said the junk ones came from. I'll definitely be getting the Ford part but I'll only be doing one at a time lol. But rocker followers and lash adjusters, are the one auto parts shops sell ok to use or do I have to work more money at a dealer for the motorcraft or Ford part?

Do you have any videos talking about phaser lockout kits and why you shouldn't use them or when you should use them?

After doing a timing set on my 05 F150 I will say you are a fool if you take on a job like this and then cheap out on components. I put all Ford parts in mine, only change I made was going with the Melling high volume oil pump. Btw, I would not have been able to do that job without your videos, thank you so much for putting those together.

@WelliDS

4 жыл бұрын

keep in mind the part that failed on you is original Ford. Motorcraft/Ford part is the reason why you done this job in the first place.

I just ordered these phasers. I have watched and taken notes on every video you've done on this. About how long does it take on an 06 F150?

Thank u very much brother, I already subscribed this is exactly what I needed to hear bc the truck has 250,000 and counting.....Now I've got it all the down to cam phasers,would it cause the truck to Idle real hard......Then almost Stull when we work it hard on mountain terrain it barely made it bad if I don't hear from you I'll try to get ahold of you I would pay you for knowledge troble shot... My dad has always provided as a dad even though he was tough and my Grandpa worked in the pits at Nascar and he was a mechanic 53 yrs....I would like to fix this for him or just let him know!!!!

I have a question that is somewhat related to this topic. Do you have any videos on degreeing camshafts on 3v engines? Obviously you would degree it with the phasers in normal position but do you also have to degree it in the lockout position as well? Im curious because I do plan to buy aftermarket cams for my 4.6 mustang and want to take the proper steps when installing and insuring proper valve clearance. I just can't find any videos that cover degreeing for this particular engine.

I bought a 2005 with 5.4 so really thinking of getting rid of it and go back to a gm truck

Would love to see more about the 07-12 Navigator. I understand there's a lot of crossover with the f150 but there are definitely model specific issues. Cheers.

@FordTechMakuloco

6 жыл бұрын

The engines are the same exact setup. I do have some specific videos coming out soon.

@4thgradedropout980

6 жыл бұрын

FordTechMakuloco Awesome. In particular I was interested in 6hp26 failure mode/causes, air suspension, and rear axle/differential maintenance. Anything is cool though. Awesome work as always!

First! Perfect timing i just got into lunch

@RobertKohut

6 жыл бұрын

"Perfect timing"...no pun intended....LOL

@SuperMarioDiagnostics

6 жыл бұрын

Robert Kohut 🤣 at least someone got it!

Sadly rock auto doesn't sell ford phasers..had to get them from TRQ 269 dollars a piece!. But you're 100% right on quality..didn't want todo it twice.

@FordTechMakuloco please advise: I bought the ford timing chain kit that you recommended in your 4 part series, and the phaser sprocket part numbers are indeed the ones you linked to here as well. I just installed the phasers, chains, and roller followers and am turning the engine over by hand to make sure there is no contact. I am hearing and seeing this ticking noise/behavior that you showed in the video above, that the cheap phasers can make. Is there something wrong with my new Ford phasers? I'm highly confused and not encouraged by this noise. Do you think my phasers could be defective?

I think Ford needs a recall, mine started going at 50k.

Question and thanks for the info. I have a '97 Expedition which started making those knocking noises yesterday. It did stop making the noises after the engine sat for a few hours. Is it recommended that I not start the motor up, or even drive it that way? Thank you in advance.

I had the dealership do a timing job on my truck about a year and a half ago and I noticed that the tensioners have already gone out as they used the OEM plastic ones, is it worth breaking into it myself and going ahead and replacing some parts with melling parts such as tensioners and the ms360hv oil pump as well as replacing the lifters and rocker arms with high quality upgraded ones that have another oil port for better lubrication

thank you !!!!

What do you think of phaser lock out kits? With tune and all

A few years ago you couldn't get a Ford phaser across the country with back orders expected to be 6 months behind. So I had to go with the Dorman. And of course they are going bad with only a few thousand miles on them. The Expy was just a vacation/pull the trailer vehicle, not driven much. So it took some time passing for them to fail. If only Ford had designed them correctly in the first place, or not let it go on for so many years, we wouldn't be dealing with this.

My 6.2L eat a factory guide and we went back in Ford parts. Learned a long time ago with Fords there are some parts you can't use after market crap for.

Great videos! I did a full timing job on my 5.4l 3v following your videos also purchased all of the Ford parts from your links and also installed the melling M360HV . When I started the engine it runs and sounds great but after about 10 miles, when I come to a stop, it idles rough and sometimes stalls. check engine light comes on. Codes are P1000 and P0605 I'm not sure what to do now. A mechanic said the engine is no good without looking at it. just based on the codes. What would you recommend?

Mine needs this done it’s got 322000 on it making all kinda noises.

Holy crap!! 845 for the whole timing kit!!? Either way it would be wise to get the ford brand..... Dayuum.......

I had a customer bring in his 5.4 running on 4 cylinders found that the Dorman phaser failed . The locking pin and all the vanes broke up causing the cam to not turn while the timing chain just spun only the sprocket bending a few intake valves.

@Dirtyharry70585

6 жыл бұрын

bet that guys butt puckered! Didn't save much now.

another 5.4 story again. Awesome. I wish I had a 3v 5.4.

@Barrera00009

4 жыл бұрын

No you dont!

@-chase-

3 ай бұрын

Oh no you don't

How long would the engine last after these kinds of repairs? There is a lot of information on why you should use updated oem but how long would the timing kit last?

Nice!!

Would a 2000 Lincoln Navigator have phasers like I see on the videos hear of you fixing the cheap aftermarket ones on the expedition?

My argument is always " if OEM is so good why did it fail?" however because I do my own repairs and save on labor I never cheap out on parts. After market is ok for cosmetic stuff, but engine and ignition components always OEM.

@willhart7861

6 ай бұрын

This is exactly what my thoughts were as well. If OEM is so great,then why did it fail so quickly in the first place?

Question, I took your advice, replaced phasers again with ford factory units, replaced oil pump with Melling M360 high output, my brothers shop put back together, tested said had hesitation, while running catalytic converter turned cherry red.,They replaced it and the new one does same thing any ideas?

Can you reccomend a kit for a 4.6 3v 2010 mustang? I want to make sure I get everything I need. Mines knocking once warm however it seems to knock past 1200rpm maybe to like 1600 after that I cant tell. However I'm not running around with a knocking motor even if it was non problematic.

How do feel about installing the phaser locks on these 5.4 L 3 valve engines ? They claim It will eliminate the problem. A kit has all needed and a programmable gadget to plug in that does an auto load. 2014 Expedition EL XLT

Hey guys do you have to also do the VVT solenoids at the same time?? mine it only rattles when it starts up and when it warms up for about 5 minutes, other than that it sounds smooth when running!!!👍🏽

What's a minimum engine analyzer I can rent or something to analyze my fuel trims? I get really crappy gas mileage but I can't afford to buy super expensive test equipment so I need the minimum that will do the job

My 07 navigator window lock does not lock I replace the lock mechanism didn't make a difference I hear a clicking noise coming from the fuse box down in the passenger side clicking whenever I hit the button on the remote to unlock the liftgate window is there something in that fuse box a relay of some sorts any insight would be greatly appreciated thank you love you videos by the way

good guy , could Camshaft Phasers cause chain rattling?

Is the 4v any better? Before I got rid of my 07 F150 because of this issue, I was thinking of possibly swapping it..even though it would have been a lot of work.

I have a 2004 ford f150 lariat 4x4 I’ve been watching your videos well I live in Tucson Arizona I was wondering if you could recommend a place where I can buy an engine that might fixed the issues that came with this engine when I came out I figured just replace it and really don’t have to worry about for awhile thanks for your help and info

It lasted an hour? Wow!

Do the phasers have to be in good condition before installing the lockout. My phasers making alot of noise and they said to get lockers.

Can there be any other things that would cause those exact codes to pop up. I have a 2006 ford f150 that's has been running rough since I bought it. I've been chasing codes replacing everything under the sun even the camshaft sensors. Now I'm getting those four codes an not sure if I need to change those phasers out or do a whole timing kit or if something else could be causing the issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I have a 2007 expedition 5.4 3v I change the lifters and the rocker arms but it still make the tapping / ticking noise if you can please give me some info

I have a 1998 2v 5.4l an a friend gave me some heads he had an on the cam I see there are bearing on it didn’t know u can put bearing on them is this a good to use or no

Hi, I need your help. Actually I changed cam phaser on 2009 f150 5.4 L but by mistake lost timing maybe while changing cam shaft turned around can you share any pictures where can I see cam shaft potions would be both banks sides please?

Maybe a stupid question, but here it goes. My expedition has 178000 miles on it. At cold start it has a rumble type sound for just about a second. I believe it is a tensioner that leaked down. Do the chains on these ever fail ? can I just replace the tensioners on this?

He should work in a Ford parts department.

Hey man I agree with ya 100 % I bought a cheap set on ebay less than 3 months later it was back to ticking real bad again. I took your advice from previous videos and bought the ford factory kit on amazon and also replaces the roller followers while I was at it and upgraded oil pump . it's only been 2 months so far but all seems to be fine . Thanks too your videos I was able to do my self . Keep up the great videos bud appreciate all the good info. I'm looking at getting a little newer 250 wanna go diesel which would you recommend? I hear horror stories about the 6.0 but not much bad about the 6.2

@PureCountryof91

6 жыл бұрын

Bob R the 6.2 gasser is loosely based on the mod series. The engine found in gen1 raptors is a version. I have heard some impressive things..

@bobr7206

6 жыл бұрын

PureCountryof91 good to know thinks bud

Do you happen to know what brand he used on his engine? I just did a head gasket job in my mustang, 4.6 3 valve and used cloyes timing components.

Where is your shop located? I’m living in Canada but you are the only mechanic I trust and it would be worth the drive to have the job done right.

@FordTechMakuloco

6 жыл бұрын

Chicago- bsgautomotive.com/

@ianhillman4007

6 жыл бұрын

FordTechMakuloco thank you for your reply and I’ve put you into my emergency contacts 😂. I’ve also recommended your shop to all my friends

@cheezburger6130

6 жыл бұрын

Wow is your shop bulletproof?

What oil pump would you recommend for a 98 E350 5.4 2V

Hi! Which kit can you recommend for a F1thanks! 3V XTL 2010 thanxs!

What do you use hold the cam shaft from moving when timing chain is pulled off the sprocket

Do you recommend the cam phasers lock blocks??

Will this timing chain work in my 2005 F150 4.6?

Do you recommend i buy the delete kit, lockout kit ? 2012 navigator 5.4