Ford 5.4L 3v Engine Noises You Shouldn’t Ignore: How To Tell When a Timing Job is Really Needed

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Come along as we show you why you really don't want to ignore that startup rattle in your Ford 5.4L 3v engine.
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  • @nicholasali2182
    @nicholasali2182 Жыл бұрын

    AS A FATHER OF A SON THAT JUST PURCHASED A 04 F150 FX4, THIS GIVES ME HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE HER LAST AND BE RELIABLE. NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR YOU,BRIAN, FROM CANADA 🇨🇦 MY SON WAS SET ON GETTING IT, AND NOW WE'LL LEARN TOGETHER ABOUT THE 5.4 3V❤

  • @danielstanway1222
    @danielstanway12224 жыл бұрын

    this video is pure gold, every 5.4 owner needs to see it. thank you Brian

  • @charlieg8018
    @charlieg80186 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Brian. Your attention to detail and desire to understand what the causes of failure are exceptional. The Gold Standard for auto mechanics everywhere!

  • @bryanhenderson8413
    @bryanhenderson84136 жыл бұрын

    Brian, thanks so much. Wow! Your $2,300 price is an incredible bargain! My son and I followed your other videos to change everything out on his pick up. But it was around $2,500+ just on Ford parts, tools and fluids. However we also replaced all the fuel injectors (1 was bad), all the lifters (2 were bad), water pump, fan belt, hoses and idler pulley bearings too while we were in there. Truck only had 144,000 but previous owner apparently rarely changed the oil -- lots of sludge.

  • @BryanChance
    @BryanChance3 жыл бұрын

    You must be a Ford master tech. I’m learning a ton of stuff from your videos. Thank you so much!

  • @devinpro6199
    @devinpro61995 жыл бұрын

    you are the best teacher..and it really shows your customers just how amazing you are .. thank you so much..

  • @BryanChance

    @BryanChance

    3 жыл бұрын

    This guy is a pro!!

  • @thollingsworth4910
    @thollingsworth49105 жыл бұрын

    I don't even own a 5.4 but I love watching these videos. Very, very good info in these.

  • @edaiken1010
    @edaiken10105 жыл бұрын

    Just bought a used 2006 F-150 with this engine. Did not know of this issue but the truck only had 13.5K miles. Thanks very much for telling me what to listen for and for your thorough explanation of the engine design problems.

  • @chord7703
    @chord7703 Жыл бұрын

    Love this channel, just got a 2010 f150 with a 5.4 3v. Glad to know that I don’t have any of these bad sounds and will definitely e doing some preventive maintenance in the near future!

  • @eastsidehydroflow974
    @eastsidehydroflow9746 жыл бұрын

    Brian, I did the replacement of the timing belt, cam phasers and guides when my 2005 F150 truck had 180,000 + miles on it last summer. I did not have the money at the time to do the oil pump then. I now have 242,000+ on my truck and have purchased the 340HV oil pump and just waiting for the right time to do it which will be soon. I just want to thank you for your videos and the instruction you have provided. I have folks say to me you got to have the guts to do what I've done. I just tell them that I had great guy who is very knowledgable help me and I then refer them to your channel. Thank you for this latest video which explains how something so simple can create such a major issue.

  • @jamesplotkin4674

    @jamesplotkin4674

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damn, man. You're going to tear down the entire front of the engine TWICE in order to save $100? In the mean time, damage may have been done to that original pump and compromise the project's longevity. Dude, a few beers and a couple pizzas skipped and you could have done it in one pass. As the Deerhunter said, "One shot."

  • @michaelseandurnell3098

    @michaelseandurnell3098

    2 жыл бұрын

    Timing chain not a belt

  • @privatesector0422
    @privatesector04225 жыл бұрын

    We are so glad you found you. You're an amazing technician thank you for sharing.

  • @mar1video
    @mar1video6 жыл бұрын

    The best 2 grand I've ever spent on my 2008 Ford Expedition ! My Expedition sounded like a diesel before Brian worked on it, and it was lacking power. Now, it pulls like a beast. Highly recommended !!!

  • @FreeLander5280

    @FreeLander5280

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm considering reaching out to Brian to coordinate a date coming from denver. mine has all the worst symptoms yet still gets around the high mountain freeways incredibly well. don't wanna risk it to much longer with 220k miles

  • @LOSNAVA_UTV

    @LOSNAVA_UTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello my truck is making that start up rattle i live near riverside ca does any one now a mechani around here

  • @kingjuggalo2440

    @kingjuggalo2440

    5 жыл бұрын

    Who's Brian? And Where Can I Get 1 In NC? LoL!! Seriously Though Anybody Down South U Might Know That Does Brian Grade Work?

  • @kingjuggalo2440

    @kingjuggalo2440

    5 жыл бұрын

    Reason I Ask "LOTS"!!!!! Of Dirty Mechanics Down In My Small Area An I Don't Mean Dirty With Grease? Yeah Very Very Sleezy Mechanics Con Artist Of Another Level Intentionally Addin Problems To Cost U Thousands An Never Even Fix The Problem U Originally Brought It In To Be Fixed I've Had Enough.

  • @browntrout3994

    @browntrout3994

    5 жыл бұрын

    you took it to bsg automotive ?

  • @gabegarcia1199
    @gabegarcia11996 жыл бұрын

    this is why I be love watching your videos. very detailed and specific. faithful subscriber

  • @white89gt
    @white89gt6 жыл бұрын

    I helped a friend do his chains and guides recently. The previous owner had already done it all, but reversed the tensioners. So the "L" tensioner was on the Right side. Well, that didn't go so well, and ultimately took out the guides. Luckily, putting new tensioners in correctly, and after clearing the oil pan of plastic and debris, the truck now runs good. So another thing to watch for is correct placement of the tensioners. BTW, I actually discovered they were on wrong by watching one of your videos, Brian. Thanks a lot for all of the GREAT videos you put out.

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    shane dyches did any of the noises come back?

  • @silverhair3933
    @silverhair39336 жыл бұрын

    One 25 cent gasket fails and destroys half the motor... Great engineering from a company that should know better..

  • @mar1video

    @mar1video

    6 жыл бұрын

    Silver Hair - job security at its finest

  • @chrischiampo7647

    @chrischiampo7647

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or is it Planned Obsolescence 😳😳😑

  • @BaxterDeBerry

    @BaxterDeBerry

    6 жыл бұрын

    hey referring to the company that makes it impossible for most to change the transmission in newer f150s.. go figure

  • @charlesrichardson4032

    @charlesrichardson4032

    6 жыл бұрын

    Silver Hair right on brother ford doesn't even use a bearing for the cam to ride in totally unbelievable Bean counters

  • @jhfowler2326

    @jhfowler2326

    6 жыл бұрын

    You kidding - FORD engineers joined the CORPORATE "limited life cycle" fraternity years ago! I'm 67, had 6 Ford trucks, getting ready to buy my last - It will be a DODGE RAM! F' FORD!

  • @cimadomepat
    @cimadomepat2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for your videos Brian!! Your videos have inspired me to do a job that I never thought i could: tackle- a full timing job on my 2006 King ranch with 286k original components.

  • @buddyrebel_Garcia
    @buddyrebel_Garcia5 жыл бұрын

    28 dislikes are by dealers! Heheh Great video man.

  • @strokerace9175
    @strokerace91756 жыл бұрын

    I had this issue on my 04 F150 that had 195,000 miles. Through the help of your videos and a little money spent on the roller tool and parts, I was able to complete the whole trimming replacement with the pump for around $1000. Thanks for the videos they are a great!

  • @jorgefigheroa77

    @jorgefigheroa77

    Жыл бұрын

    Good for you man…how hard was it to get done 1-10..???

  • @jorgefigheroa77

    @jorgefigheroa77

    Жыл бұрын

    I want to do it myself but seems to complicated…

  • @A.C.71
    @A.C.712 жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to stop by and thank you Brain. On one of your videos I seen where you recommended the Pennzoil Platinum Full Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil. I tried the Pennzoil Platinum Full Synthetic High Mileage 5W-30 Motor Oil it has something in it to condition seals and said it could help a motor that was using oil. I have been using about 1/2 quart in about 700 miles. Since I tried this oil you recommended I've gone about 600 miles and it hasn't used a drop. This is now my new oil. Thank you very much , this issue was worrying me more than I would care to admit. I'm slowly but surely making this truck more dependable thanks to your expertise and hard work on 5.4 3v. I've been close to giving up on it but your videos are saving it. I already had tried the ATS Chemical engine treatment...twice, Megapower engine additive that I've personally see do miracles for motors but none of those got my engine to stop burning oil but the pennzoil did the trick.

  • @johnbrumfield6212
    @johnbrumfield6212 Жыл бұрын

    Maaaaan!! This was me!! Everything about this vid was my 2007 Expedition. Thank you for all of your efforts too share you knowledge. Sadly…as many times as a too my truck to a ford service about the issue, not one mention a timing requirement. On the fourth time, they said I need a new engine!!

  • @joshdunlap7766
    @joshdunlap77666 жыл бұрын

    I did this service last summer using your video series. I'm so glad I did it. My truck runs smooth and quiet now, no more embarrassing diesel noises. Thank you for everything you do for the Ford community.

  • @TheHouser21

    @TheHouser21

    6 жыл бұрын

    how long did it take you? did you take yours to a mechanic to get the Refrigerant removed?

  • @joshdunlap7766

    @joshdunlap7766

    6 жыл бұрын

    Guy Houser I worked on it in the evenings after work and it took me all week. I'm guessing around 12 hours total. I really took my time and made sure I did everything right. Truck is still smooth and silent. A friend that has access to a machine evacuated the ac system for me. I borrowed a set of gauges and filled it myself when everything was back together. I will say to make sure and check your lifters and followers well. I had a follower that was locked up and worn flat on one side. The cam was slightly scored but not too bad so I only replaced the follower.

  • @TheHouser21

    @TheHouser21

    6 жыл бұрын

    Josh Dunlap I will be doing the same thing, only thing was the refrigerant made me reconsider everything haha. Weird how the small things make you think twice. Thank you for the advice, I will be extra careful, like always :).

  • @joshdunlap7766

    @joshdunlap7766

    6 жыл бұрын

    Guy Houser you're welcome. Depending on the year you may not have to take the AC line loose. I have an 04 and it's right in the way. Btw, make sure you replace the oil pump. It's cheap and easy to replace while everything is apart. A coworker fixed his truck and didn't replace the pump and it went bad and ruined the motor a few thousand miles after putting it back together. Fordtechmakuloco has a video on a new melling oil pump that is high volume and pressure. I believe it was just introduced this year. Unfortunately it wasn't available when I did mine but I did use the best melling available at the time.

  • @TheHouser21

    @TheHouser21

    6 жыл бұрын

    Josh Dunlap Thank you! I have seen that video, his videos are always so informative. I’ll definitely get the high volume pump, can’t believe the design of this engine.

  • @chekelley6861
    @chekelley68616 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Your videos just get better and better!

  • @FordTechMakuloco

    @FordTechMakuloco

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @craftytimestation2540
    @craftytimestation25402 жыл бұрын

    Between the navigator and the expedition you have been an life saver lol

  • @davebliley5361
    @davebliley53616 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your videos. You have made my life that much easier. Keep up the good work.

  • @edjackson4389
    @edjackson43896 жыл бұрын

    I have one. 2008 F250 5.4L. The engine was smooth and quiet up to 190,000 miles with zero issues. It now has the hot idle cam phaser knock, and is kinda down on power at 216,000 miles. I figure I'll replace all the components discussed in this video at 250,000 miles, and have a rock solid engine. As a comparison my 2005 Chevy 2500HD 6.0 needed a water pump at 97,000 miles, and I had to replace the transfer case at 168,000 miles, so I traded it for the ford. No regrets.

  • @mzaccaria6291
    @mzaccaria62916 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the great videos. My question is does all the information on start up noise, and timing chain rattle apply to the 4.6L 4v engine also?

  • @michelleandrobb3398
    @michelleandrobb33985 жыл бұрын

    Great info. My son has a 2005 5.4 L Triton F150; he will have to keep up with this!

  • @UndeadEarth1
    @UndeadEarth15 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your mechanical knowledge. This really helped to understand how all these parts interact.

  • @chrischiampo7647
    @chrischiampo76476 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Tips Thank You 😊

  • @sergiodjf
    @sergiodjf5 жыл бұрын

    It’s mind-blowing that today’s engines with so many sensors & computer systems can’t prevent this catastrophic damage from happening or at least give you a warning.

  • @glocktwins2343

    @glocktwins2343

    2 жыл бұрын

    Things aren’t built to last anymore. It’s all about money. The more problems, the more money they make.

  • @JimBronson

    @JimBronson

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Ford oil pressure gauge is not actually a gauge, it goes to the middle and stays there as soon as it has 7 psi or more. The GM's have real pressure gauges that move with engine RPM. That said I own a Navigator with a 5.4 3V and doing the timing job soon.

  • @1guardia

    @1guardia

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s why next time I’m buying a Toyota . Always having same problems with Ford even though I love the style!!

  • @keithbartlett6708
    @keithbartlett67086 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for all your very informative videos! I will be ordering parts after I watch the set of 4 video on just how to get this work done. Thanks again from Meriden, KS.

  • @spartacusantipas4580
    @spartacusantipas45809 ай бұрын

    This was such an awesome video. Your instructions and descriptions are exemplary.

  • @Joe_1971
    @Joe_19716 жыл бұрын

    $2300 dollars for this job is very reasonable. I just bought the timing kit from Amazon all Motorcraft parts, VCT's, Melling 10340 oil pump, and a whole set of roller followers and lifters and it cost me $1660.00. Granted your not including roller/followers in the price those alone cost $481.00. I wish I lived closer (Massachusetts) because I would gladly pay you to do this job for me.

  • @fredhankes5608
    @fredhankes56086 жыл бұрын

    I subscribed a year ago and you have been most helpful keeping my 08 F150 alive, 122,000 and so far my 3v is nice and quiet except for just a hint of phaser knock which now is being masked by the right exhaust manifold leak, already have the parts for that I just need time to change out the manifold. I did take your advice about using 5w-30 and change it at 4500 - 5000 miles. I’m starting to gather the parts for the timing upgrade when the time comes, I’m not ready to lay out 60k for a new pickup yet

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Fred Hankes hi Fred! I got mine for 1500 has only 100k and have slight knock. Is it worth dealing with I want to just drive it. What was your experience?

  • @MICLANTECUTLI
    @MICLANTECUTLI3 жыл бұрын

    I like how you gave your audience a price quote at the end.

  • @billbethel8375
    @billbethel83756 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. The Milwaukee Fan is just what I need! So hot out here, it’s a must have. Running out to buy one now. Nothing worse than heat fatigue when you are trying to get the job done.

  • @FordTechMakuloco

    @FordTechMakuloco

    6 жыл бұрын

    Those fans are a huge help, they really help get me through the summer.

  • @michaeltrower6792
    @michaeltrower67926 жыл бұрын

    Great video I started having the start up rattle on my 06 f150 both tensioners were blown replaced with updated motorcraft with help from your videos all is good now

  • @joesmith-fi1sx

    @joesmith-fi1sx

    4 жыл бұрын

    So you just replaced the tensioners and done ? My 06 with 83k that i just bought has a quick tick at start up . I just changed oil to 5x30 and a quart of marvels mystery oil .

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    joe smith did that take care of your problems? I have 100k

  • @waldeaux1

    @waldeaux1

    4 жыл бұрын

    joe smith w

  • @joesmith-fi1sx

    @joesmith-fi1sx

    4 жыл бұрын

    waldeaux1 ?

  • @slimsherman5818

    @slimsherman5818

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@joesmith-fi1sxWell...did it make an improvement?

  • @KennyRusso77
    @KennyRusso773 жыл бұрын

    QUESTION: What causes the 'blowout' on the chain tensioner gasket? Does the higher pressure Melling oil pump exacerbate the risk of a tensioner gasket blowout? Is there an upgraded replacement tensioner available?

  • @JakeNaughtFromStateFarm
    @JakeNaughtFromStateFarm2 жыл бұрын

    I’m hearing that start up tick for a few seconds and after watching a few of your videos, figured I’ll be needing a timing job soon. My first goal is to get a commuter car so that I can start working on my truck. I know it’s going to take time, but I’ll tackle here soon.

  • @daviddodge5112
    @daviddodge51122 жыл бұрын

    I got the startup rattle at 40000 miles and parked the truck until I found Brian's first videos on this subject. Watching the videos I saw the blown tensioners and thus had something to look for.....sure enough, both of mine blown. I replaced both only and inspected the guides and nothing else was damaged so I buttoned up the cover. 10w30 oil since and all is well at 100000 miles. Keeping fingers crossed.

  • @ricardoduran3959
    @ricardoduran39595 жыл бұрын

    Hello buddy do you have videos on 4 valve 5.4. Such as the 03 lincoln navigator.

  • @Jonathan-us4ig
    @Jonathan-us4ig3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. I'm an auto mechanic and have seen 5 failed 5.4L engines through my shop in the last 3 months. It's a tough call weather to recommend timing chains or recommend, a new motor or a new truck. It's good to see exactly what's going on in there.

  • @Randemoller

    @Randemoller

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wish I would have just replaced my motor at 100+k now I’m in heavy on repairs and keep having issues.

  • @big_worm4414

    @big_worm4414

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Randemoller bro just stay away from this motor!!!

  • @grampymeyer6603
    @grampymeyer66036 жыл бұрын

    Greetings, your videos are great!!! keep up the good work My daughters 02 Mountaineer (4.6l 2v) had the spark plug ejection issue... I had to weld up my own tools to make the (head installed) repair... (taught me valuable lessons, so this has not repeated on our 02 Explorer 46.l 2v). So when I bought my 2009 F150, 4.6l I ensured I got the 3v engine, now very close to 100K miles. I do not notice any "startup rattle" I do have the hot idle ticking (potentially the camphaser lockout pin). I also notice what I believed was a heat shield rattle, that only is noticed @ light acceleration at just over 1000 RPM.. Your videos and explanation make me believe this could be a timing chain. Based on the info in your videos I believe I am destined to pull the front cover in the future and do all the timing work and If I understand correctly put in a melling oil pump...If I determine I have tensioner "blowout" is there any remedy that is more likely to prevent this. Other info.. I change (synthetic only) the oil each 5K previosly 5W20, until today 5W30, I have never seen any plastic parts drain in the , no metal on the magnet (I know fine aluminum would not be caught by a magnet) . I plan on cutting open my last WIX oil filter to give the insides a look. any additional advice / insights?

  • @crypticworld7400
    @crypticworld74002 ай бұрын

    I love your videos and how you get straight to it! Thank you and keep up the great work

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael6 жыл бұрын

    @FordTechMakuloco I also found melling makes chain guides in aluminum instead of plastic what do you think of the aluminum chain guides have you seen any of them in person or installed them what's your take on them

  • @Jkarr861
    @Jkarr8616 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any videos of the start up rattle? I get some odd intermittent noise on startup from time to time. Motor is about to turn 60k

  • @702johnny
    @702johnny4 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. Keep them coming. Helped me a few times on my truck. I really appreciate it. Liked, commented and subbed.

  • @Reactor7392
    @Reactor7392 Жыл бұрын

    This particular video is the 1 i needed for my issue. Thank you for making it!

  • @billrok
    @billrok6 жыл бұрын

    Well said. Great advice.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael6 жыл бұрын

    @FordTechMakuloco hey I have a 2005 ford 6.8l v10 2 valve do you have any idea were I can find a pickup tube for the high volume melling oil pump I want to install

  • @Shona90210
    @Shona902102 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Brian, amazing detail with clear cause and effect cases. Priceless👌

  • @bobbym4811
    @bobbym4811Ай бұрын

    Thank you thank you for making such an informative series of videos on these engines. You did it and did it well. 👏

  • @jasonmeister6988
    @jasonmeister69883 жыл бұрын

    I Am Never Gonna Financially Recover From This

  • @briang4470

    @briang4470

    3 жыл бұрын

    Save yourself from future headache and financial crisis and the next time your 3 valve needs a major repair just junk the truck and find something else, these 3 valve trucks have horrible resale value and aren't worth sinking tons of money into, use the money to find a nicer truck.

  • @FLMan180

    @FLMan180

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@briang4470 here we are in a used truck over inflated market these used trucks selling for top dollar !

  • @Jack-by2hg
    @Jack-by2hg5 жыл бұрын

    I've seen a 5.4 with 410,000 miles! Good to know that stuff!

  • @zgzg2183

    @zgzg2183

    4 жыл бұрын

    410,000 is when my brothers 2006 f150 started to make noise. He bought it at 17,000. Always had motorcraft 5w20 oil and filter every 3-4,000 miles. New ford timing components, new ford oil pump (didnt need the pump really). Still goin strong has about 430,000 on it now.

  • @clyde8drive
    @clyde8drive6 жыл бұрын

    I wish you were in my area. so much respect for the knowledge. 07, 5.4 with 185K and need that from end done. keep the vids comin

  • @Craig2760
    @Craig27603 жыл бұрын

    I bought an ‘09 F150 a few months ago with 67,000 miles. Love the truck. I have a great mechanic locally yet, I do rest easier knowing I’m just an hour from your shop. 🙂

  • @Chris-Fennimore
    @Chris-Fennimore6 жыл бұрын

    I just got hit with severe Arthritis in my knees, this year, so its doubtful I'll get a chance to upgrade my 5.4 3v F250. Brian, I'd give you the job in a heartbeat, if you ever wanted to travel down to North Carolina. We are family-friendly, bring your kids.

  • @FordTechMakuloco

    @FordTechMakuloco

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't travel for work anymore but customers come from all over the USA to have this service done.

  • @SRD602

    @SRD602

    6 жыл бұрын

    FordTechMakuloco I'm seriously considering bringing my 07 with 130k up from Arizona to have this done by you. No way I'm going to pay the dealership that much and I don't know any local mechanics I trust to do the job right. I'm just concerned if the truck can make the trip without causing more damage. Right now I have a faint ticking(only heard with hood up) coming from drivers side valvetrain but don't believe I have the start up rattle.

  • @mar1video

    @mar1video

    6 жыл бұрын

    Louis Chavez - I bought it and drove it like that for about 2 years before it finally got fixed. If you never been in Chicago , make it a road trip out of it. Plenty of things to see and do around here. Or send your truck via car carrier ( add another $1,500 - $2,000), but check the prices first, I might be wrong. Good luck !

  • @nationalwashproducts2124

    @nationalwashproducts2124

    6 жыл бұрын

    FordTechMakuloco where is your shop?

  • @ozzstars_cars

    @ozzstars_cars

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Louis Chavez Did you check the exhaust manifold gasket for a leak?

  • @cobrabuilder9336
    @cobrabuilder93366 жыл бұрын

    Brian, keep up the good work. it is interesting by some of the comments that people are quick to blame the engineers that designed the modular line of engines instead of being attentive and when they hear an odd noise just leave it be to snowball to something as extreme as this example. Proper Maintenance, servicing when there is a abnormal sound or issue all falls on the owner of the vehicle. This is not to say that there are no issues with an engine design, and that is why there are redesigned / improved service parts like the new guides, tensioner, oil pumps etc. this major repair could have been a far less expensive job if it had been looked at by a knowledgeable tech like yourself when the initial noise started.

  • @samhouston1673

    @samhouston1673

    8 ай бұрын

    Proper maintenance should not require tearing down the engine to accomplish. It is, without a doubt, just poor engineering? Why? Cause there are other engines that FORD has that does not have these issues, pure and simple.

  • @utahbones3094
    @utahbones30945 жыл бұрын

    I’m anti ford since my 5.4 3v but your videos helped me change out everything. I changed my phasers twice and I wish you made the Ford phaser video earlier because your so right about aftermarket phasers failing.

  • @mikebee515
    @mikebee5154 жыл бұрын

    My 06 f just started that left side ticking at 116k daggonit. I just bought rims/tires/level. Time to crack it open with whatever pennies I have left lol Thank you for this series!!

  • @floridaman7

    @floridaman7

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just started having it happen at 136k. I bought a roller and lifter kit off amazon. mechanic says it will be $830 to install it.

  • @SMarti018
    @SMarti0186 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos, very informative... They sure do give me anxiety though about owning a 5.4 with 120K 😂.

  • @Hubjeep

    @Hubjeep

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mine has 130K, only get startup rattle one out of every 4 starts.

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did you guys ever have more issues?

  • @jasonmeister6988

    @jasonmeister6988

    3 жыл бұрын

    mine has 152k and still works fine

  • @ethanwestbrook9853

    @ethanwestbrook9853

    3 жыл бұрын

    With or without noises though? Mines got 140,000 and I get noise here and there

  • @aber1711

    @aber1711

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm about to purchase one with 120k miles. Seems to be a good truck but that is expensive when the time comes to fix it.

  • @mark98070
    @mark980706 жыл бұрын

    Hard to imagine that there are no cam bearings! Another brilliant idea from the engineers at Ford!

  • @brucejones2354

    @brucejones2354

    6 жыл бұрын

    wysetech2000. try Cummins, even many of the big engine manufacturer's use this method. It works IF you maintain them properly.

  • @randystrebeck812

    @randystrebeck812

    5 жыл бұрын

    All motorcycle ive worked on handa suzuki kaw and yamaha Triumph steel cams run on aluminum pedistals and ive seen some Triumphs pushing 100k so yea its how they are maintained Lack of reagular service is what gets the timing chains too!! So if you are getting plenty clean oil to the camshaft steel on aluminum is fine its the lack of oil that does the damage most bike carry as much oil pressure as out 5.4!!

  • @Alvink2015
    @Alvink2015 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Brian, I just wanted to let you know that you are the man. I’ve been working on a Ford F550 6.8L, it’s one of our work trucks that went down a few months ago when it came in I took the valve covers are off and noticed that the passenger side head can shaft caps were all broken so I replaced the head with a reman head that came complete with a new cam. Replaced the oil pump. All of the timing components, the water pump, all new gaskets tubes, head gasket, new bolts, new exhaust manifold, bolts, all OEM. fast forward after running the truck for two weeks with no issues the first time we took it out on the road. Oil light came on in the gauge for the pressure dropped all the way down and started making noise again on the passenger side head. When I took the valve cover off to see what the problem was, I saw that all of the camshaft caps were all loose again and the one in the back was broken, why do you think this happened? Could it be that the engine wasn’t thoroughly cleaned out from all the metal shavings from the first time the caps went out or do you think this happened because the timing was set wrong.? Wouldn’t I get codes if the timing was set wrong though? or do you think that all this happened because I used an oem oil pump and not the HVLP oil pump? I tried calling the company that I got the reman head from today and they said it was an installation error not a head issue because the caps shouldn’t come loose and will not warranty the head but they said that they are going to send me another cap for the one that broke which was the last one all the way in the back and they said if the cam isn’t scored up too bad and the bed that the cam sits on it’s either it should work. Please if you can try to help me I’d really appreciate it, I’m down on my luck and really need help to get this thing back on the road. I’ve spent so much money on this thing and I feel like I’ve gotten nowhere with it but just back to where I originally started. Thanks again, GOD bless

  • @big_worm4414

    @big_worm4414

    Жыл бұрын

    These engines are just not made to last, sorry bro

  • @Steven-zj8ui
    @Steven-zj8ui6 жыл бұрын

    Great video, will the replacing of the phasers help regain some mpg lost over time? Thanks!

  • @yimotondiaz8014
    @yimotondiaz80145 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2005 with the 4.6 V8 and it makes the rattle noise when cold start. Would it be the same issue? Or different since not the same engine?

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yimoton Diaz was it ever fixed or just driven? Was it an issue otherwise?

  • @jasongurr270
    @jasongurr2705 жыл бұрын

    These are all very good tips on how to take care of the motor and what to look out for however I don't see why would cost thousands of dollars to replace the head when you can go to Frasier engines and buy a whole nother engine for about $3400.....

  • @FordTechMakuloco

    @FordTechMakuloco

    5 жыл бұрын

    Labor labor labor is the answer you are looking for...…….

  • @jingoadams8362
    @jingoadams8362 Жыл бұрын

    Brother you are the Bomb. I have been watching your video tutorials. And it has saved me head aches and money. Thank you for sharing the knowledge. RockOn Brother..

  • @Badillo35196
    @Badillo351966 жыл бұрын

    Worse engine design too many problems right? But of course is always good news for mechanics like me ! Thank you very much (Brian ford tech maculoco) I learn a lot from you man .... you are in the right place!!!!

  • @Overtatedowl
    @Overtatedowl6 жыл бұрын

    Just sold my 2007 f150 5.4l 3v. I had 192,000 miles of towing trailers and boats, drove through nasty fields and woods for work with it. Always had to use 4x4. Never had a single major issue with it. Changed spark plugs a couple times and had to change coil pack springs and boots. Never the actual coil pack they were all original... if you change the oil on these 5.4s every 4,000 miles and take care of it they’re not an issue like people like to say...

  • @skeezix8156

    @skeezix8156

    6 жыл бұрын

    OverRotated Owl did you run 5W-20 or switch to 5W-30?

  • @Overtatedowl

    @Overtatedowl

    6 жыл бұрын

    Skeezix ran 5w-20. I though about making the switch to 30 but didn’t pull the trigger on it. If I had the truck still I probably would’ve put 30 in now.

  • @Immapsycho677

    @Immapsycho677

    5 жыл бұрын

    We had a 2v with 301k before we said screw it only blew intake manifolds

  • @jonathanclark451

    @jonathanclark451

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Overtatedowl I just changed to 5-30.. 3745633.3 miles. All original internal except for vct solenoids. Its bout time for phasers and guides and tensioners

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jonathan Clark how could you tell it was just Vct selendoids

  • @Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt
    @Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt3 жыл бұрын

    It’s time you expand and open shops near every Ford dealership. Using the same business model you do there and hiring like minded mechanics whom are ethical and take pride in their workmanship.

  • @thomasdoheny8096

    @thomasdoheny8096

    2 жыл бұрын

    No Shit!! I would send my 2005 5.4 L 3v to that shop anytime I needed work done to my truck. Is all of the local mechanics in the New Haven Connecticut area don't know about the special needs of this engine

  • @ericsnell9504
    @ericsnell95045 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for you videos! I only get the startup rattle after the truck has sat a few hours. Does this mean the leak is still very slow and I have some time to plan this job? Will 10w-30 buy me any time?

  • @cjrob6151
    @cjrob61516 жыл бұрын

    You are awesome! You really know how these engines work!

  • @mountaindewpower7895
    @mountaindewpower78955 жыл бұрын

    My engine is loud and mean..makes all kinda noise...454 7.4l is a beast...scares all the kids

  • @DerkT7
    @DerkT74 жыл бұрын

    My 2010 has a loud ticking sound on start up and then seems to become faint after the engine idles, but when I accelerate, the ticking is crazy loud. Would this be a manifold leak?

  • @hollyjansma3632

    @hollyjansma3632

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have the same issue with my 08 5.4L I have run premium gas and switched to full synthetic oil and no change so that tells me it's a manifold leak. I will be replacing mine before I make the trip from Michigan to New Mexico in January. Hope you figured yours out.

  • @catbugparty

    @catbugparty

    2 жыл бұрын

    Having the same problem have you found what caused it?

  • @DerkT7

    @DerkT7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@catbugparty I think it’s a passenger side manifold leak honestly but I don’t know for certain. I am going to fix it here shortly and will update this comment.

  • @larryd9068
    @larryd90684 жыл бұрын

    Ok, that's it dambitt! I'm pulling out the Triton 5.4 out of my 2003 - F250 Super Duty and installing a 1974- 351 Windsor. My dad's ole 74 Ford Torino never quit !

  • @woolrabbit
    @woolrabbit6 жыл бұрын

    could you do a video where you compile and demonstrate all of these sounds we should listening for, for example startup rattle, chain slapping, etc. So I can compare them to the sounds in my 5.4L. Thanks for all your videos.

  • @bigdogpete43
    @bigdogpete434 жыл бұрын

    "Knowing when it is time to trade it."

  • @BrotherKyler
    @BrotherKyler5 жыл бұрын

    These are great trucks, almost 300,000!on mine.

  • @InvestorAcademyPodca

    @InvestorAcademyPodca

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, seems to be little to no problems with the 5.4.

  • @53mjackson

    @53mjackson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Have you made any of these repairs on yours , I about readt to buy one king Ranch 313000!!!!!!!!!

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kyler Estes are these noises normal

  • @kellylarson3565
    @kellylarson35656 жыл бұрын

    In 2000 I bought a new ford f150 4x4 with a 5.4 I have taken care of it. The truck has zero rust and the power train is original. Yes starter, alt ect has been changed . I have 600267 kilometers on it and live in northern Sask Canada. It runs like the day I bought it new. Maintenance! nice truck

  • @workingshlub8861
    @workingshlub88616 жыл бұрын

    you got me nervous now lol...that 5 second startup tick I assumed was my exhaust manifold gasket leaking by....time for more investigation.. I have 135k and so far so good and I always change oil on time.

  • @derekisthematrix
    @derekisthematrix6 жыл бұрын

    I realize this would be very difficult but could you somehow record/show us the actual sounds you're describing? We have a 2010 Expedition that we bought at 83k mi that always has had the "diesel" sound (145k mi now). Not sure if it sounds any different at startup. We'll need a new transmission soon (occasional slipping while towing and hot) so I gotta figure out if I want to spend $3500 on that plus thousands on a timing job. Oh and the ABS ECU is out and that's another $1100. Oh and the lower blend door needs replacing that requires tearing out the dash which costs ~$1000 if I don't attempt it myself.... Geeze maybe I answered my own question!

  • @matthewtieszen2569

    @matthewtieszen2569

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. This would be helpful. Too many other videos out there with various sounds that are using similar 'issues' as the description.

  • @billbethel8375

    @billbethel8375

    6 жыл бұрын

    In my experience, unless you have used 5-30 synthetic oil , ( like Pennzoil Pure ) for the majority of those miles, you probably need this service. Upgrading to the parts described, regular service, you will get a lot of use from the vehicle. Some fleet vehicles here in Arizona are upwards of 500k miles. All have the 5.4 Triton

  • @FordTechMakuloco

    @FordTechMakuloco

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have many videos dedicated to identifying noises in this engine. This was more of an informational video about how severe each one of these failures are.

  • @derekisthematrix

    @derekisthematrix

    6 жыл бұрын

    FordTechMakuloco thanks I'll be sure to look them up. I've appreciated all your videos thus far. What am I risking by not doing this repair now? $2300 today vs $XXXX when/if it breaks down the road (other than getting stuck on the side of the road)?

  • @matthewtieszen2569

    @matthewtieszen2569

    6 жыл бұрын

    I apparently have missed a few and will go back to see if I find mine my 'noise'. Dealership checked for the "Standards" then simply diagnosed with a "Manifold gasket leak". No improvement to the 'ticking' but was reimbursed for the 'repair'. Thanks for the reply!

  • @lindnova
    @lindnova6 жыл бұрын

    Wow that's spendy. Why doesn't the V10 seem to have this problem? We have them go over 200k in severe service without problems.

  • @FordTechMakuloco

    @FordTechMakuloco

    6 жыл бұрын

    The 6.8L 3v does not have Phasers or a VCT system.

  • @i3loodymoon647
    @i3loodymoon6473 жыл бұрын

    Covers ears and eyes for another few weeks until the weather frigs off so i can rip her down do roller followers, cam phasers, chain/ guides and look into replacing plastic intake with alluminium. :( EDIT: You videos make me happy to own a 5.4 with knowing all the issues with these motors, let alone your help with keeping fords running strong if the upkeep is there. Aiming for summer 2022 full frame refurbish and keep this baby going for another 20 years.

  • @master6435
    @master64353 жыл бұрын

    This channel is the only reason I would buy a f150 with a 5.4 3v

  • @domtass
    @domtass5 жыл бұрын

    Ill stick with my 5.3 vortech

  • @raulayala5891
    @raulayala58916 жыл бұрын

    Hi guys....I have a 06 Lincoln Navigator ultimate with 5.4L V8....where o how can I find out if this it's 3 Valves like he saids?

  • @MichaelJames-je6cr

    @MichaelJames-je6cr

    6 жыл бұрын

    raul ayala it’s a 3 valve

  • @mar1video

    @mar1video

    6 жыл бұрын

    raul ayala - most likely it is. If it rattles, sounds like diesel, vibrates and is ticking, it's the 5.4L V8...

  • @FordTechMakuloco

    @FordTechMakuloco

    6 жыл бұрын

    The 5.4L 3v came to the Expedition/Navigator in 2005 so yes you have this engine.

  • @raulayala5891

    @raulayala5891

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tnks boss

  • @InvestorAcademyPodca
    @InvestorAcademyPodca4 жыл бұрын

    Man, glad I did a bit of searching before pulled the trigger on anything with the 5.4 in it.

  • @mariamatias5801
    @mariamatias58016 жыл бұрын

    I plan on doing a radiator flush procedure when I replace my thermostat,should I replace my thermostat after or before a radiator wash

  • @southerngentleman2516
    @southerngentleman25163 жыл бұрын

    Damn some of this stuff about Cam phasers and rattle has me wanting some explanations. Any issue with the 5.4 like phasers, vct solenoids, roller followers, timing chain tensioners seem to be from one thing insufficient oil volume. Why wouldn't a new better higher volume oil pump be the first thing one would want to replace? And be the main fix ?

  • @slimjim7411
    @slimjim74115 жыл бұрын

    Yikes my truck sounds like a Diesel for like 5 minutes after starting then goes away when you start driving. So according to this video I'm probably F****************CKED!

  • @musstagg

    @musstagg

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is rattle after the engine 1st fires up? I have rattle only when STARTER is turning engine over. Its quiet as soon as it fires up. Is that normal , or is my rattle bad?

  • @casandramcneely6188

    @casandramcneely6188

    4 жыл бұрын

    When I barely touch my gas pedal you can hear engine rattles, so yeah I think I'm in the same boat

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Casandra McNeely yeah. Hold it at 900rpm. Mine went away after I changed my oil to 0w-40 full synth

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Slim Jim did it get worse?

  • @KollynJ

    @KollynJ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pretty fly for a WiFi did yours get any worse?

  • @Elmo_Fuddleputt
    @Elmo_Fuddleputt5 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos. I have an 07 Navigator 5.4 3v so I know I am going to need to do this. How many hours does this job pay?

  • @gregtruchot8826
    @gregtruchot88265 жыл бұрын

    Again, great video and information! Thank you!

  • @rickb8808
    @rickb88086 жыл бұрын

    Ford's going downhill fast. Used to be all Ford trucks around here on the farms. Now Dodge is taking over. Farmers say new Fords don't hold up when you work them. And they "hate" the ecoboost engines and aluminum beds. Ashame. The old 300 6cyl., 302 and 351 engines were workhorses.

  • @MustangNthusiest

    @MustangNthusiest

    6 жыл бұрын

    Richard Bricker, not true, Ford, Chevy Dodge have all decent Trucks. But Ford Trucks are still selling. It's still the number 1 vehicle in the USA 🇺🇸 being sold. Over 100,000 more then Chevy and Dodge

  • @lukaszuryk527

    @lukaszuryk527

    6 жыл бұрын

    Richard Bricker yea its going down the hill with each year record sales

  • @workingshlub8861

    @workingshlub8861

    6 жыл бұрын

    had a buddy with a 94 f150 straight 6 ..had 278k when it finally died and he plowed 10 winters with it...

  • @darylhagle8565

    @darylhagle8565

    6 жыл бұрын

    Amazing it’s only ford trucks in Michigan with record sales ..🤔

  • @waltchan

    @waltchan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ford truck engines are NOT OHV, that's why farmers have more problems with Ford than Chevrolet and Ram V8, and Ford trucks don't serve the farmers well anymore. The last and final Ford truck engine built for farmers was the 4.2L V6 OHV, but it was found in regular-cab only with limited sales number and production limit. It was discontinued after 2008 model year because Ford don't want to see many 1 million mile trucks running on the road.

  • @drmoto5898
    @drmoto58985 жыл бұрын

    This is the reason I will be buying a Toyota, I love my Ford but I simply can't afford to own an engine that poorly engineered.

  • @lastdeadmouse7
    @lastdeadmouse76 жыл бұрын

    Had replacing the blown phaser (yes ignoring the phaser knock resulted in it jumping timing by about 20° and barely getting home) not fixed my issue... My truck was going to bsg, no doubt. Thanks for all the help, B!

  • @Legal_Addiction
    @Legal_Addiction5 жыл бұрын

    Love you videos. Mines over 200k all original internals. Just waiting for the comp cams to come to compete my full kit, figured if I was in that far to make it worth it with a little upgrade. I'd love to know you thoughts of my warm idel tick or knock down underneath by the transmission?

  • @dougdoesstuff24
    @dougdoesstuff245 жыл бұрын

    Why you so far away!?! Mobile service on the east coast? :) I will show the sights and bring you to some REAL pizza, not that chicago stuff you call pizza!

  • @MustangNthusiest
    @MustangNthusiest6 жыл бұрын

    First.

  • @keyroncampbell

    @keyroncampbell

    6 жыл бұрын

    MustangNthusiest get a life

  • @michaeltrower6792

    @michaeltrower6792

    6 жыл бұрын

    Who cares if your first lame at least leave a comment

  • @MustangNthusiest

    @MustangNthusiest

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cam23, jeesh, get a cup of coffee ☕ and cheer up.

  • @MustangNthusiest

    @MustangNthusiest

    6 жыл бұрын

    Michael Trower, tough crowd, normally I do leave a message was just surprised I was. Cheer up guys. Whew you guys are nasty.

  • @keyroncampbell

    @keyroncampbell

    6 жыл бұрын

    MustangNthusiest what does being first do for you?

  • @michaelmurray121
    @michaelmurray1216 жыл бұрын

    I like this, thanks for the updates 💪🏽

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