Nice job trying to bridge this difficult conversation. It sadly seems inevitable that people will add politics and social issues to the sport, in as much as most people don't want to see that at all. It would be nice to get some more point of views on this topic from those with "non-liberal values". There was some mention of certain topics; but some more balance on commentaries, and their values and thoughts, from a non-Western worldview would have been helpful.

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

Hi posse79, thanks for watching and your constructive feedback. Much appreciated.

Yes FIFA suspended Russia in 2022 for invading Ukraine but where was it in 2003 when U.S.A U.K and Australia invaded Iraq did they get suspended.

@victoriap1561

Жыл бұрын

kek of course not

@ezraezra2928

Жыл бұрын

Also, why FIFA didn't ban Iran in 2022 because of humanitarian crisis? Even worse, when the football team played against England, they didn't sang the national anthem.

@muslimthekidd4350

Жыл бұрын

Fax

@sushipizza4439

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, so saudi arabia should also be ban for 9/11. Israel should be banned for invading palestine, morocco has to be banned for invading northers sahara, germany should be banned for invading eastern and western europe in the past, and also uk and france should be banned for colonization. Japan too for invading asia……..

@ezraezra2928

Жыл бұрын

@@sushipizza4439 What about Russia? They actually excluded for declaring a war against the Ukraine and the Western civilizations.

If you want to host any event in a territory free of human rights violations, you would have to rotate between the moon, Antartica, and maybe San Marino or Andorra because everywhere else there are problems.

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

Choose your favorite 🧐🤪uhri.ohchr.org/en/countries

@IvanHadlich

6 ай бұрын

I love you lads hahaha@@dwkickoff

It’s almost impossible to keep politics out of the biggest sport on the planet. It comes with the territory. That being said, why not lean towards a better tomorrow

Hypocrisy and double standards have sadly become important cultural pillars of "western" culture. Nice that this video is critical about that topic, u rarely see that in western media nowadays.

@dafyduck79

Жыл бұрын

Definitely And DW is leader in this hypocrisy

@johannesderspinner

Жыл бұрын

Well, the video also critizes the whataboutism of many leaders.

@elijahmalachi45-6dieker8

Жыл бұрын

I decide what is right and wrong because I am Elijah and I'm the only one that holds God's truth. Besides Jesus and Jesus isn't back yet because it's my job to usher in the return of Jesus. Million female is determined by gender located in the brain and anyone saying otherwise is now in the Great Tribulation that started September 1st until they either repent and accept the truth or wait too long and die with the wicked. And the answer to into covid is for anyone that ever sold anything using the name of God to return the money. It doesn't matter what book or religion you believe in because selling God is evil no matter what. Fake ministers have known for over 2 years every time they take more money they kill more people with covid and they are still doing it which proves they all serve Satan. Anyone still attending the fake churches must repent for supporting evil murderers and never go back if you want out of the Great Tribulation that started September 1st. Again, it doesn't matter what book or religion you believe in because truth is still truth and God is still God. But I will tell you the answer to end covid is right in the Bible and Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8 is talking to all the thieving church leaders and telling them to return the money they were never supposed to take and covid will end and Jesus returns. This will create a universal income for everyone that is still here as jesus takes her rightful place as the leader of the new world order. Jesus was a female man that returns as a female woman. My wedding is already paid for and it will be broadcasted all over the world.

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

@dafyduck79: LoL

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

Hi Ben, thanks for watching. Good analysis!

To DW comments responder: It’s nice to see someone in DW listen to views and respect the criticism in a sweet manner. I hope the rest will follow and present unbiased balanced reports!

please dont politicize this beautiful sport and this glorious event of world cup which are being watched by billions around the world

@AnikaFtw

Жыл бұрын

why not. its an opportunity to highlight what people/countries stand for and dont stand for. not everyone can be bought and paid for by oil money or turn their heads away from blatant corruption and human rights violations. doesn't change the game at all, players will still play, people will still watch, using a fraction of space to shed light on bad things in the world is a good thing.

@kimbonzky

Жыл бұрын

Sure, as long as the host dont use the event for politics, oh wait..

@zeminoid

Жыл бұрын

​@@AnikaFtw No, it's not a good thing, don't you see politics everywhere? Social media, tv, movies, news, EVERYWHERE. Using a fraction of the space that doesn't involve politics to have all of your life surrounded by politics is miserable. Sports are sports, there are tons of platforms to get messages through, and believe me that they use them. Sports are a way to tune off reality and have a great time, politics in sports take out the enjoyment of life.

@BrewBun

Жыл бұрын

@@AnikaFtw The people who are barking all day about human rights are the biggest violators of it. They have money and exposure to get the job done for them while sitting behind a curtain

banning russia from world cup after invading ukraine must one of the most bizarre things fifa has done...what about all the other countries that have been invading other countries year in year out...like the U.S for example

No one should decide for you what's right or wrong do your research and make your choice.

people around the would seem to take their social cues from the US even when the social situations, social dynamics, ... are very different in these countries. and gun violence is not the same as human rights abuses like gay rights. these kinds of false equivalence in the name or balance criticism, takes away from the argument.

Track id at 13:30? 13:30

Watch HITC Sevens videos on the subjects. They are really good.

Draw* not Dror

You should check about the 68 Olympics in Mexico.

@Mirsab

Жыл бұрын

Tell me more?

@helenarosas6213

Жыл бұрын

@@Mirsab A lot of students were protesting against the Olympics being held in the city because of the money being used for it, instead of public programs, ten days before the opening ceremony they gathered in a main square and the military started killing them, ordered by the president. Until this day, there’s not a certain number of how many were murdered or injured.

@muhammadajibakriaji3753

Жыл бұрын

And the GANEFO, rival of Olympics games

Regime* not Reigime

Past* not Pohrst

Worst part of the sport is folks bringing politics into it...

Queiroz* not Quíroz

Ah i remember Indonesian first president, sukarno make rival sport event of olympic and Sukarno say sport event has politics included

@ezraezra2928

Жыл бұрын

Indonesia hosted the 1962 Asian Games, when the country was in turmoil before a bloody coup triggered three years later (G30S/PKI). After Sukarno lost his crown as the president, Suharto amended the new sport politics and made the ASEAN version of Olympics (SEA Games). After the fall of New Order and Suharto himself, sport politics were divided, but nothing can stop the violence in sports, including the death of Kanjuruhan.

I know in general, football fans and society have a short memory. Despite recent events, before let's say 2018-2020, aside from racial abuse incidents, football was fairly seperated from politics. Of course there will always be political statements made, but only in recent times has football been involved in something political on a weekly basis it seems. We started kneeling (people shouldn't kneel for anyone but God), bringing rainbow flags, letting players and coaches talk on extremely divisive topics like during COVID etc. Football has always been an ESCAPE from everything going on in the world, but these days it's an extension of our daily lives with opinions from people who don't matter in the grand scheme. The World Cup is a prime example of peak hypocricy. The cold truth is that every nation in this world has a history of misery, and nobody has a right to school others. That's why I absolutely loved Qatar's stance on western hypocricy. It revived the concept of EVERY NATION HAS THEIR OWN LAWS, NORMS, VALUES. Respect us, and we'll respect you. We need to bring this back, because Globalism sucks ass. Also, we as fans need to realize that the only group who profits from all the optics (kneeling, rainbow flags, say no to racism) is ONLY FIFA themselves. It's marketing for THEM, not the cause, because besides that, they're not really trying to solve the problem. There's more money to be made when people are divided.

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

Hi NxT, thanks for watching and your analysis. Concerning your last point - if it is marketing for FIFA why are they banning all these things and trying to keep politics out of the game? Isn't more money to be made when all just focus on the football?

In the last 2 years, amid COVID-19 pandemic, the world football has been divided by the following events: 1.European Super League, which includes all richest clubs from Europe, that triggered a backlashes for those who didn't enjoy huge successes in Europe. The project was then cancelled, but FIFA decided to launch a new Club World Cup that includes 32 teams and had the same format as the national team to resist Florentino Perez's idea on making a Super League. 2.Decision to ban Russian football for undetermined period after the invasion of Ukraine, which applies to club and national team level. 3.Corruption on the field, which includes an extremely poor referee decisions (either VAR or regular ones). Notable examples were Japan's allowed second goal vs Spain, lots of yellow cards during Netherlands vs Argentina game, among others. 4.Mismanagement of crowd control during the football game led to the violent hooliganism that killed a lot of peoples such as the disaster in Malang (Indonesia). 5.Last, but not least, the World Cup off the field itself, which includes a controversies about LGBTQ, human rights (especially migrant workers), and Palestine.

There's no single source of morality that is adopted by everyone, meaning navigating the political landscape that football exists in very complex. It's really easy to just say 'what about x bad thing in YOUR country' in retaliation, and to be honest, it's not strictly wrong. All countries have its own problems, just like what the video said with the USA and Australia. However, most people who use whataboutism as a defense conveniently ignores that critics who criticize the host country is more likely than not also criticizing their own countries w.r.t. the issues mentioned by the 'whatabout'ers. Sport is political, and what we consider as 'acceptable politics' in sport will change as societies change.

@muhammadajibakriaji3753

Жыл бұрын

I remember Indonesia first president, sukarno say the sport event(not only football) has bring the politics so when asian games 1962 Indonesian deny israel and Taiwan joining event so sukarno make rival of sport event, GANEFO (games of new emergence force) but it last until 1973 Sukarno no longer bein president

@Monaleenian

Жыл бұрын

"most people who use whataboutism as a defense conveniently ignores that critics who criticize the host country is more likely than not also criticizing their own countries w.r.t. the issues mentioned by the 'whatabout'ers." They're not though. Those people didn't criticise England for homosexuality being illegal when England last hosted the World Cup or Germany when it hosted the World Cup in 1974. Those people who supported the expulsion of Russia from the Qatar World Cup largely didn't criticise FIFA for choosing to not expel the USA, England and Australia from the 2006 World Cup for their joint invasion of Iraq. They didn't cry about "corruption" when Western countries hosted World Cups due to corrupt bidding processes. They are hypocrites and they hate it when someone points out their hypocrisy.

Who decides that Israel shouldn't be banned by FIFA despite occupying Palestine but Russia should be banned by FIFA. Why should Abortion, LGBTQ and country's internal politics be part of the game? Those are only internal affairs

@DS-bz4mz

Жыл бұрын

>Who decides that Israel shouldn't be banned by FIFA despite occupying Palestine but Russia should be banned by FIFA. Again, it's kind of a no-brainer in the world of geopolitics, Israel is a western ally and Russia isn't.

@BrewBun

Жыл бұрын

@@DS-bz4mz So why we should be thriving on western ideas, traditions and cultures instead of ours

Can't * not Khon'

Asia* not Asier

This guy is a legend 4:02

Now it’s time to focus on problems we have here like gun laws, infrastructure, and cultural polarisation in North America and hopefully the global scrutiny will force us to make change

football has never politicized??? apparently these are early twenties football fans 🤦‍♀

There's almost no interaction that isn't political, it's why I didn't get the fuss behind the last 2 WCs. Hosts just have to win the political game. Politics got us here, politics will get us out. Simple. I sincerely don't care if N.Korea/S. Arabia/Libya/Peru hosts the WC, in fact I think these controversies are needed to help the entire Int'l community. While I do get the intricacies surrounding a bad host, in the end everybody just wants to see Mbappe score. If you think am lying collate your comments.

Politics have to be kept out of Sport, end of story. I hate how this is now the new normal.

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough! The only question is how...? It's not that easy, is it... as some commentators here in the section have pointed out.

"Home to gun violence and anti-abortion laws" How do you even put these two in the same sentence as if they're somehow similar evils?

@victoriap1561

Жыл бұрын

we could have said Germany home of laws that facilitate sex traffic and sex abuse

@Greg_Q

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if he said ABORTION VIOLENCE which would be Truth.

Fifa* not Fifer

i do think it is important to know why qatar was doing this, they wanted more visibility because they are afraid they will be invaded by neighbors. It was the same with avramovitch buying Chelsea.

Good point about western hypocrisy. Racism, sexism, classism. and religious bigotry exist everywhere. However, women, gay people, and gender nonconforming people do have basic human rights in most western countries. As a woman, it's difficult to be excited about a tournament being held somewhere that I am not considered an equal human being.

@swegypunchymany4717

Жыл бұрын

As a man, it's difficult to be excited about a tournament being held somewhere where I am considered a terrorist... you should enjoy it rather than going with this mentality, you are a stranger and they have no right to apply their mentality to you unless you break the rules like Miss Croatia does, hence why so many women had fun watching this world cup, as for those moral issues they'll find time to develop just like many arab countries did, you can easily travel with shorts or crop top especially if you're a foreigner in the costal cities of Morocco, you can live as an atheist in Tunisia with no problem and many more, yes it will be long but it will eventually happen especially with the foreign influences and soft power touching those countries

@emem2863

Жыл бұрын

@@swegypunchymany4717 It's not an equal comparison. In the United States, men and women of all colors and religions have the same legal rights. In Qatar, women often need male guardians to give permission to rent a hotel room, attend school, marry, etc. As beautiful as many Arab countries are, they're still often misogynistic in their laws and customs. I can acknowledge this about Arab countries and acknowledge while more people have legal rights in the West, there are still issues of racism, classism, sexism, and religious bigotry.

@nisahmed9121

Жыл бұрын

Qatari women in the workforce have equal pay as men unlike many western countries. She have free health care and education. And she is not obliged to contribute a penny to the household expenses or her own even if she’s wealthy. Her male guardian is obliged to do that. The concept of male guardian in Islam is to be the protector and the one who look after his wife, children, parents and relatives. Some bring their wrong tradition or misuse it and there should be clear laws to prevent that. A man wanted to accompany the prophet to a battle while his wife went to pilgrimage. The prophet told him to go accompany his wife (to protect her and look after her needs). Another the prophet told him to stay and look after his elderly parents.

@nisahmed9121

Жыл бұрын

Female fans praise Qatar World Cup. Ellie Molloson who is an advocate for safer spaces for women in football and leads " HerGameToo" campaign praises Qatar organization of the tournament.

@BrewBun

Жыл бұрын

Don't make everything norm and don't try to push your thoughts upon others in the name of human rights, democracy, woman's right. Either you don't have the clear picture or concept or you are just brainwashed to differentiate between right and wrong. Sorry to break your heart but westerns work to their interests always and use those term as a shield. They are the biggest corrupts and made their citizens like a puppet. Puppets eat and vomit the ideas, narratives made by some powerful businessman and politicians like fools. Puppets don't generate ideas and don't think about it. They just swallow all what they get in street feasts. They don't benefit from those but people sitting behind curtains benefit from those things.

Haters will hate and try to spew their hatred and jealousy through false propaganda. Love and respect for Qatar 🇶🇦 🫡

I went pro footballer but no one give me chance so Please help

Football has always been political but this time it's not the politics of the masses it's the politics of elites. Liverpool and Everton fans are traditionally labour party vote banks. Working class coal miners Schalke vs lower middle class Dortmund. Catholic Celtic vs Protestant Ranger but the thing is these political virtues represent their fan bases. Today we have players kneeling down in a different league because in some country they are protesting and some globalists have decided that all the players should kneel too. We have LGBTQ flags as a corner flag but the club owner who belongs to the country which doesn't believe in it and also Anti LGBTQ. We ban Russian players and clubs but never say anything when the USA did the same in the name of spreading democracy. The club should represent the politics of fans instead of global elites.

@fighterck6241

Жыл бұрын

Lemme guess, because "globalists" and "elites" are all enemies of billionaires like Trump, Elon Musk... somehow... oh and and they're "woke". I almost left that out. Gotta hit all the tags.

Qatar so far has hosted the best World Cup ever!!

@original.dwornboy

Жыл бұрын

... If you are still a teenager, yes.

@BrewBun

Жыл бұрын

@@original.dwornboy If you're not biased yes

@metrofilmer8894

10 ай бұрын

Mexico 86 was far better

Nothing will change😅😅😅

Carai, colocaram o Brasil no mesmo balaio do Qatar? Kkkkk

Sure, let's focus on issues in America. Like Abortion VIOLENCE.

Rugby union stays away from all this

Hi DW , you forgot to wear armbands in this video 😆. Germany was defeated by the US in world war 2.

@original.dwornboy

Жыл бұрын

Germany was defeated by Russia more than any of the Allied countries. USA only joined WW2 three years after it began.

It’s dam annoying, and I don’t like it being shoved down our children’s throats brainwashing them

It's always Palestine, Ukraine, Israel, Russia, China, the U.S. and Iran. Now, Qatar is being added. Man, why can't some of the football-ruiners just not add oil to the flame?

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Way too much political stuff im English football Poppies rainbow laces Ukraine. All too much

didnt watch the world cup this year probably wont in 2026 or 2030 either...

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

Why is that, Clark? Just annoyed by FIFA and how the game is run?

@gtmthegreat

Жыл бұрын

@@dwkickoff Hosting sport events in dictatorships is not new. But slavery of my people makes it very personal (I lived for a decade in the middle east and seen it all). I have been watching football for the last 24 years, but this was the first WC that I didn't see a single minute of any game.

@M.Sajid98

Жыл бұрын

shame you missed on of the most competitive world cup in the recent history... but atleast you are consistent.

Just my opinion: maybe Keep politics like Ukraine,LGBT and Palestine out of Football whether wrong or right because u will never please any side. as for the Qatar world cup there was a lot of propaganda and wrong information spread from the west about QATAR which actually damaged Qatar's reputation. only politics i think should be deeply adressed is human topics like RACISM which we all agree is BAD and WRONG

@Glory-Compass

Жыл бұрын

i also would like to add that i dont think qatar is not corrupt in a way but i think corruption is everywhere nowadays so stop acting like russia,south africa and brazil wasnt that corrupt

@victoriap1561

Жыл бұрын

@@Glory-Compass Germany also paid bribes to get the world cup. Korea Japan is probably the most corrupt world cup in recent memory

@Glory-Compass

Жыл бұрын

@@victoriap1561 wait Germany did?

Keep politics out of football, end

@DS-bz4mz

Жыл бұрын

Never

@dylansharkey6040

Жыл бұрын

Not possible

@muhammadajibakriaji3753

Жыл бұрын

As Indonesia president say sport=politics. It hard to get out

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

How though...?

There are some things i do not get in football and politics. If you have Palestine flag it is making provocations and hate speach but if you have Ukraine flag it is war protest and fight for freedome and yet both countries are under attack, in war and have their own territory occupied. Serbian players and fans can literally offend whole Croatia and open war wunds, there is no consequence but if Croatian fans backfire or Croatian players do same it is nazism, scandal and fifa issues huge fines.

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

That's the difficult stuff FIFA has to deal with. How do you solve these issues, Velimir? Where do you draw a line? What's your take?

I think people should draw the line in countries that actively commit genocide, like China or Myanmar, or that are supporting terrorism abroad, like Iran or Saudi Arabia.

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

Food for thought! This would be your red line, Kuro?

@kuroazrem5376

Жыл бұрын

@@dwkickoff it is.

@balakumaravel7034

Жыл бұрын

interesting.The united states supported terrorism by supplying and training the mujahdeen with weapons in order to destroy the democratically elected communist regime in afganistan in the 1970s.they are also active supporters of the war on yemen which is leading to a humanitarian crises.however at the end of the day we all will ignore these issues and only accuse of countries which we percieve to be bad.this is well spoken of in the book manufacturing opinion by noam chomsky

@Greg_Q

Жыл бұрын

FYI, destroying communism is a Good thing.

Simple...KEEP POLITCIS OUT OF FOOTBALL

@dwkickoff

Жыл бұрын

Easy said. How though...?

@jaychimera372

Жыл бұрын

@@dwkickoff you the media are the problem these days

@SaifAlikhan-wy1zs

Жыл бұрын

@@jaychimera372 well said 👏

@smokeymcpot1799

7 ай бұрын

@@jaychimera372 Find out who owns the media. Kanye was trying to tell people. I'm not allowed to say who they are or I'll get banned... that should tell you who rules over us.

Only pessi fans will say that this was the best world cup ever but for me it was the most bloodiest world cup tournament ever. Islamic countries don't deserve to host this prestigious tournament.

We don’t have free speech in the west

@hanswurst6712

Жыл бұрын

Ofc u have, u just have to live with the people speaking back to u, using their free speech.

@smokeymcpot1799

7 ай бұрын

@@hanswurst6712 Our free speech ends where hook noses begin.

Realities* not Realites