Thank you for sharing, I’d imagine creating these videos is more a labor of love as it’s a lot of work. Appreciate the efforts.

@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853

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Very true. Thanks for the encouragement. I love putting them together-just takes time! I'm grateful, though, there are people who enjoy the C&S as much I do!

This is invaluable as I'm making this route in a trains sim and vids like this help fill in the gaps.

@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853

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I'm glad they're helpful!

wonderful video.. feel so sad

@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853

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Thanks. It is sad the tracks are gone, but it's great that this part is so remote that it hasn't gotten destroyed by development.

Glad I found these videos. I was up at both the east and west portals in 2001 and they were two of the most memorable places I've ever been. I heard there was another avalanche that took out the road near the Palisades. Is the station and west portal of Alpine tunnel accessible at all by vehicle now? I know it was closed to cars but can an atv or motorcycle get up there?

@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853

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Right now the only way to get there by vehicle is to come through Hancock on the eastern approach and over Williams Pass (This way you will bypass the slide area). On the west side you can only drive just above Sherrod Curve where it is now blocked. Active plans with grants and other funding are in the works, however, to fix the rock wall and roadbed. Stabilizing work was done this past summer and more work will continue in 2023. I think there is a projected completion date of summer 2024.

How can I learn more about a train wreck that happened on the C & S in 1905 on the Blackhawk/ Central City line at Cottonwood above Forks Creek. 2 died. The engineer, William (Billy) Allen was killed. He was my great great uncle. He is also buried in the cemetery that is next to the Jeffco court house in Golden. I have a few articles about the wreck. Also a picture of him standing on engine 9. Engine no 9 (Union Pacific Denver & Gulf) could possibly be engine no 71 that is on display in Central city. Some information about the wreck can be found in the Colorado Rail Annual No. 10. Which I do not have. There is also some information in the book C&S clear creek district memories & then some on page 24. It would be interesting to know the engine that was involved in the wreck and also maybe a picture of the wreck. Then I could possibly find the exact location where the wreck actually occurred. The exact date I think is July 31st 1905 but not 100% sure. Just found your channel and it's very cool. Thanks

@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853

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Daniel W. Edward's books (A Documentary History of the South Park Line) include lots of sources from news and company documents by year and he has a volume on the Clear Creek Line. They have no photos, but may have more info. The Colorado Railroad Museum will do research for you for a 10 dollar donation too. They have access to tons of historical photos and documents.

@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853

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The Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum also has a ton of people who know all sorts of things who could possibly have some info for you. The C&Sng Discussion Forum might as well, but activity there is not a ton.

@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853

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I looked up the segment on the wreck in Colorado Rail Annual No. 10. It says there that the engine was No. 66. It was on July 31st, 1905. It gives a specific location too: "within about 3/4 of a mile below Smith Hill, at milepost 31 1/2" the train "turned over on a sharp curve." If you use Google Earth, you can put an overlay found at the Denver South Park and Pacific Historical Society website (Links section) and this will show the route of the C&S on the present Google Earth map. It also has mileposts. I looked up the segment on GE and you can make out the sharp curve between mileposts 31 and 32 that is likely the spot. Hope that helps!

@retlasm

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Something very interesting! (to me anyway) Many years ago back when I was a young man we travelled to Central city very often. (1970'S) Friends of my folks owned a candle shop there. I remember on 119 there was a curve back then we called Deadman's curve. I don't remember why we called it that. Officially called dead man's curve or something we made up? It was a very sharp curve back in the day and they straightened it out some in later years. Probably in the 80's. I am not totally sure exactly where it was but it sure looks like the same sharp curve mentioned in the story and fits right at (pretty close) to mile marker 31.5. Yes I was able to download the overlay for the area on google earth. Thanks again for all the info. I wonder if there might possibly some wreckage debris in the creek down there? I found little information on Engine 66 probably because they scrapped it after the wreck. I will keep looking though. Cheers! Maybe it was called dead man curve because of the train wreck?

Why is James crying????

@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853

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'Cause he just got dunked on! Or...he was saddened by the avalanche in Woodstock in 1884.

@sophiasbagels4155

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YUP YUP HE WAS STANDING IN THE WAY OF THE AVALANCHE >:O

@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853

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@@sophiasbagels4155 Yep, that was indeed the problem!

@sophiasbagels4155

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@@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853 THE AVALANCHE DUNKED SNOW ON HIS FACE :0