So I'm gonna say this to everybody, including those in the back regarding today's review on the FN 509 Compact tactical, and it's poor performance and design principles. If the shoe fits and you think I'm addressing you, then I am. With all do and only properly applied respect, if a compensator and a little finish wear is enough to kill the effectiveness of my magazines...... MAGAZINES....... Which if you think about this for even one second you should feel completely inept mentally for suggesting that some wear on a gun and 9 magazine bodies with under 5 thousand total rounds on it is somehow wore out...... Then I don't want that handgun, I don't care what the excuses made for it are. If it's a glock, it's expected to run no exceptions, matter of fact every time one studders regardless of circumstance, people who don't own them make perfection jokes knowing it'll run as expected all day..... but just gotta get that jab in because their one time to take advantage of a failure to fire or whatever has come. This trainwreck of old design mistakes and bad magazine construction is supposed to be better than that, so my standards don't change..... Especially considering that I have more than one glock with over 50 thousand rounds on it, (one of which was run half the time with a compensator) this is absolutely unacceptable for a Pistol that's supposed to be better than that glock and is often times touted as better..... Use your thinking thoughts next time and quit making excuses for the failures of products made by people you don't know. The thing failed and the reason it did cannot be rescued or explained away like it didn't happen. Deal with it.

@chltmdwp

Жыл бұрын

​@@KennyRodgers930cared to share a link that people are having this issue? I can't find it online...

@chltmdwp

Жыл бұрын

@@KennyRodgers930 I have the compact model and thinking about getting the apex trigger. But worries me if this is a known issue but can't find it with a quick search. Thanks.

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

@chltmdwp there is no known issue and there isn't a reply sending a link because dude is full of hot dog shit.... I wish people wouldn't just invent nonsense for no fucking reason

I've owned 4 FN's in total. 1 FN 509 MRD C, 1 FN 509 Tactical, 1 FN 509, and a FNS-9c. I have never experienced any issues with any of them at all. They are tanks. The magazine issues you all experienced surprised the hell out of me. I ran my tactical in USPSA competitions with who knows how many rounds and only God knows how much dry fire. I have found them to be great guns and would highly recommend them. This was a very interesting video.

@whothernelly6077

Жыл бұрын

I was extremely confused and lost when they started to complain about the magazine I own a 509t

@solarlion144

11 ай бұрын

My fns and I have a lot of them. Have all ran flawless. I don't know what these guys are talking about. My experience has been great I love fn.

@boomee78

8 ай бұрын

I have had 4 509s 3 fns 2 of 509s had the same type of issues 1 fns had a few issues. I got frustrated aft the classes i had been in to have issues went back to glock and got walther pdps no issues what ever with those different people have different experieces. I still think fn are decent but i think there price isnt conducive for what they offer for performance

@jamesmanning8795

8 ай бұрын

@@boomee78 I agree price is too high. My wife still carries her fns 9c but I’m back to Glocks again as well.

@solarlion144

8 ай бұрын

@boomee78 what type of issues did u experience

It’s sadly ironic that the main issue with it is that it doesn’t use Glock mags lol

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

I'm saying man lol

New to the channel, subscribed and liked. If I may give my two cents in this review. The FN509 C Tactical that you have is the compact size, NOT the midsize. Yes, I understand it belongs to one of your students, so it's all good. Also, this gun it's a bit busy, it's got a lot of bells and whistles, because it's the tactical model. The manufacturer understands that in the event that you get hurt in an engagement and your hand or arm is out of commission, that you can still operate all the controls (ambidextrous) of the firearm with either hand, or if your hand is bloody, the stippling on the handle helps your grip. The other point I wanted to make is that all the magazines in the FN509 Series are interchangeable with the different size 9mm, hence the sleeve on the 15-shot on the magazine, which on the midsize FN509 you wouldn't have to use it. I like this gun, I've done a fair amount of searching on the net to learn as much as I can about it, that's how I came across your channel. It has some known issues with the striker breaking and some other issues. Not sure if this is from the early production runs or what. The good news there are two companies that I know of that sell replacement strikers, and they're super easy to replace. Thanks for the video, I did enjoy it and I also browsed your channel to watch some of your other videos which I enjoyed and learned from as well. Keep up the good work and sense of humor!

On fire with the videos, let's goooo

You need to do more reviews like this.

My 509 kept breaking firing pins. I gave up on it after the 2nd one.

Literally started eating popcorn right before you said it 😂😂

Love the backdrop

You should try the fn 509 ls edge magazine's with the metal base plate on your fn 509 compact . For me it makes my fn 509t compact feel so much more balanced

@boomee78

8 ай бұрын

That thing is rediculously overpriced i ended up purchasing a walther pdp 5 inch after renting the ls edge and a pdp. The pdp out performs it in every conceavable way

@runningandcamping

8 ай бұрын

Yeah i can i agree when i bought mine it was on the expensive side but they are coming down in price . I haven't had any issues with my 509t compact i runs every single kind of ammo no problem and not a single jam yet. But i have herd the pdps are very good

You ought to do a review for the fnx 45 full size.

@Kross8761

Жыл бұрын

He did many MANY moons ago, it was back in like 2012-ish

Pretty off topic question, how's that cz p-10c holding up? I'm looking at going down pretty much the same path in terms of upgrades

@ComeOnPelican91

Жыл бұрын

tagged for interest, but he probably got bored

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

It's fine

Do you have a opinion on the new bhp from FN?

When I bought my 509 it came with a bad mag right out of the box and FN actually sent me 2 mags. Bad products, good service.

Honestly, you’re the only reviewer I trust for gear advice anymore.

@thedumbguncollector5546

Жыл бұрын

I trust that he will have well thought out gripes.

I had a 509t, sold it for a walther pdp, had magazine issues with the magazine not staying seated, loved the ergonomics, look, but didn't work for me

@boomee78

Жыл бұрын

Pdp is the way to go i did thr same with my 509

@JROC734

Жыл бұрын

Every time I handle my fullsized/4" barrel PDP back to back with my base/fullsized 509 I think, "man I like the PDP better." The lightweight, awesome trigger, excellent ergonomics, etc make the PDP a gun worth owning. Then I shoot them back to back and realize that the 509 is easily the superior firearm. The 509 is easily the most accurate (or easiest to be accurate with) striker fired/poly gun I've ever fired. I don't care what people want to complain about with its trigger, but the gun is accurate for more everyone I've seen shooting one, and it shoots flatter than most. I don't care what some of these gun channels say, PDP is not a flat shooting gun for a fullsized 9MM. It just isn't. PDP is very lightweight, has your typically German highend feel to it, its ego's and trigger are some of the best there are, but it flips that muzzle up more than more 9MM's, and in all honesty it's not an accurate gun for most people I've seen shooting them, or nearly as accurate as you think a gun as nice as it would be. I have never shot any handgun so off as I do a PDP. ( We're talking a lot of handguns from 3 different centuries and different sizes in my 40 years) The adjustable rear sight doesn't have the range to bring the muzzle up to hir within 4" of where you're aiming at 7-8 yards without intentionally aiming 4-5" high. I replaced the oem sights replaced with some aftermarket G19 sights, and while much improved I still don't shoot it as well as pistols like a Glock/M&P/any given CZ/509/VP9/etc. I want to like the PDP as it has a lot of desirable things about it, and I've tried to work with it, but I can't make it shoot as accurately for me as most any other modern competitor to it. Honestly everyone I've let shoot both my 509 and PDP, rails on about how much they like how the 509 shoots and how easy it is to shoot it well, and they're typically less than impressed with the PDP.

@boomee78

Жыл бұрын

@JROC734 first of all how is your grip becuase a stock glock shoots flatter than a 509 or pdp i have had fn 509s since then came out and the fn 9 series before that. But flat debate or not the return to target is exactly the same if not better on the pdp. It sounds like you probably need to change the backstrap or get a better grip

@JROC734

Жыл бұрын

@@boomee78 the PDP shoots in no ways as well as a 509. Not in terms of aim accuracy, not flatness, not follow up shots. The PDP shoots like a Glock .40 S&W with better ergo's and trigger, but less accuracy. If PDP was as nice a shooter as a 509 then with its trigger/ergo/weight it would be the best SD 9MM there is, but it's not an accurate gun other than on the internet, and it's like, "why is it this bad?" If it's me then I own a lot of handguns, and I shoot none as poorly as I do a PDP. I've talk with people in person who make the same claim. They aren't impressed with how well their PDP shoots. I don't want to hate the gun. I spent $600+ dollars on it before adding aftermarket sight. I wish it was the bomb shooting pistol. Maybe a dot would make it great, and I've thought about throwing a DPT on it if I could find one, but the oem trigger is already great, and I mounted new sights on it, and I'm tired of throwing money at a gun trying to make it work when most any other gun I own I shoot at worst, acceptable. I don't want to Apex up my 509. It's trigger isn't sexy, but it's decent, and I use it just fine, as I do a hinged M&P trigger, or Dagger trigger. I'm past the days of spending $150 on an aftermarket trigger for poly/striker fire pistols. Aftermarket striker fired gun triggers will never turn the gun into one with a trigger as nice as even a lowerend 1911 trigger, so just learn to work with what the factory gives you. Maybe do a little polishing if you wish, or if a trigger offends you that much then don't buy the gun. Or buy the gun, and spend a lot of $ modding a plastic handgun trigger to only be mediocre better than the stock trigger. The fact that I even entertained spending $180 on a DPT shows how much I want to like the PDP. I'm all for a nice aftermarket trigger on AR's, AK's, hunting rifles, CZ75's, 1911's, etc. I'm just not into spending money modding a gun that's never going to have an awesome trigger. Again a stock PDP trigger is at least as nice as any aftermarket Glock trigger I've used meaning it's very good for a striker fired handgun. BTW the smallest PDP backstrap works best for me. Most pistols I prefer the middle backstrap, but PDP is the exception. I can't agree that a 509 has more muzzle rise then a 9MM Glock. My CZ75 might have more muzzle rise than my 509. I'm not a FN fanboy. I bought my 509 in 2019 because PSA had it for sale for $410, and I thought that was a good price, and in store I liked it, but never loved it enough to pay within $100 of full MSRP. I've got 1911's, CZ75, Glocks, etc that I've owned 3-4x's as long as I have my 509. I hype and defend the 509 because it's thoroughly impressed me. I ended up liking it way more than I thought would. I've been a CZ fan for 14-15 years. I prefer a 509 to a CZ75 or a P10. That's how fond I've become of the 509. Yes it's way more topend heavy than a comparable Glock or a PDP with a 4" barrel, but that's likely one of the main reasons it stays on target so well. When I'd look at a 509 I used to think, "why the hell does this gun start at roughly $100 more than it's competitors other than maybe VP9?" After having shot it a fair amount I realize that I perform better with it than any other modern full-sized grip/4" barrel pistol I've tried out, and maybe that's why they command the $ they do. I would say that I shoot it as well as I do a CZ75, I shoot it better than I do a 9MM Glock even with a longer barrel. IMO I would have to step up to a decent 1911 for me to out-shoot myself with my 509.

I ow the FN509 LE3, the actual LAPD gun. Only modifications were switched to all black night sight for NVG use, Trijicon RMR type 2, and a factory threaded barrel and occasionally mounting an Omega 9k. Now with 1000 or so rounds of suppressed and non suppressed shooting, I have had zero issues. The LAPD tested the gun and one of the major police departments that actually test their weapons for duty use similar to that of the military. The only things that concern me is the hydra lock issues and yes that magazine locking point is very small.

@snunez1911

Жыл бұрын

@Jimmy Pete I'm trying to find information on these improvements but it's proving difficult

Great insight, very skilled and great attention to detail.

If we didn’t have you to review all this stuff we’d be buying a lot shitty gear and guns… props dude

who is the guy who talked about when he was in BUD/S? Was he a SEAL or just go to BUD/S?

Dorks!

The lapd did select the 509 as their new duty gun. I'm wondering what was and wasn't tested when making that selection since there seems to be some issues. Between the cost of the gun optic, light, holsters and mags I really want mine to not end up causing me any issues if I can ever get it out to a class.

@boomee78

Жыл бұрын

They selected it as a option fir duty guns its on there list you dont have to pick the 509.

@seanvine39

Жыл бұрын

Ignore the internet bullshit. The gun beat out Glock in the LAPD testing. Who knows what happened with their sample size of one. You’ve got a solid firearm. Go shoot and don’t worry about it.

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah because the lapd is just known for having the most competent department ever lol

@mattr918

Жыл бұрын

@@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC ha, come on man just let me justify my possibly bad gun purchase decisions! Which one of your classes would I shoot enough rounds to cause an issue? I'm definitely curious to see now.

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

@@mattr918 anything that lists Mechanical and self defense Pistol together is a 3 day, 2100 round set. If people want to check out what's what with their equipment, they usually start there.

Hey now! I own some M&Ps… 6:02 😂😂

I own a couple of guns, and FN magazines are really expensive for the detailing you get. They have hard edges on top, spring feels like cheap ProMag, and adding that follower is incompatible with the Tap Rack dry safety cartridges.

Hilarious. And you had the into footage to back it up. Like this!

I'll still take a glock call me stuck in the 90s but these new guns are so expensive and unreliable sig is the worst thing for the gun industry im glad glock hasn't chased problems .

Its funny all the 509 tacticals come with night sights i always thought it was stupid

gRIp ZOnE

Are you ever gonna do a P365 review Chris?

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

I have no interest in that Pistol honestly. But you never know, I had no interest in this one either.

@jeremy8715

Жыл бұрын

I’m still waiting on a Hi-Point review…. 😅😂😂

Sweet

Compact?!? That's as big as my..

Why would anyone get this instead of a USP9

@boomee78

Жыл бұрын

Why would anybody get a usps9?

Tim Kennedys number one choice lol

Speaking of still alive or not people. Where is Josh kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqB_wdGHnbSvido.html

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

He's alive and well, just busy and we ended up moving kinda far from each other is all.

@zarAK471

Жыл бұрын

The Irish candyman is looking for him

@waylonsmythers7714

Жыл бұрын

@@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC - Okay, thanks for the info man . Keep up the great work

Was looking at one of these but they’re going for $1000 nowadays went with the X Macro instead.

Yeah.... I can stand those sleeves either

Those abs though lol 😝. Was thinking of picking up one and now I’ll save my money. And good to see Travis here again and not just his voice on the gaming channel

It's A 🍋

You guys sound like snobs tbh. For one the gun is designed to be used with the magazine in so who cares about the grip size, use the mag that fits your hand best. Second the sleeve on the 15 round mag was only designed to be cost effective because the mag works in both the midsize and compact size frames. It’s an excellent firearm!

Just shot an 8hrs class during a literal hurricane (Florida) not a single fkn failure.

@eric_brooks

Жыл бұрын

@@KennyRodgers930 should have clarified. Glock 48

Agreed with everything you said. "compact" isn't a pistol with a 20rd or 30rd magazine hanging out the grip. Compact I think is more meaning to fit in tight places like pockets or similar. Any size and weight loss is added and exceeded by a giant light and really long magazine w/ 3x's the ammo capacity. Not to mention the stupid reflex sight that snags on everything and needs to be cleaned constantly. Take a standard double stack .45acp w/ 10-14rd capacity and practice using your gun hand to aim quickly w/o using aftermarket sights. With a .45acp round center mass shots from 10-25 feet and you are dropping whoever gets hit w/230gr ball ammo. Then increase distance. .45acp was created by Mr. Browning to improve the stopping power of .38 special . A caliber police carried until the late 80's and early 90's in large numbers. Get good with a pistol and quick aiming by ditching the added reflex sight and go by your index finger line. Oh, FN makes the worst, hard to manipulate slide release. Why FN? Why? HK45 compact is a better compact . 45.

I don’t understand your argument about grip size, when you got the compact, they make a mid-size and full size version of this. Why not get the mid-size?

Are you trying to shoot a terrible video on purpose? The lighting is garbage, your not facing the camera and the audio is garbage but I like the way you do your reviews.

The grip sleeves are stupid imo. The 24 round one is the only correct way to do it, otherwise don't bother. M&P grip sleeves are equally dumb.

I cant shoot guns that don't put a gas peddle cut or meat so I can cut one like I can with my glock .

lol a bunch of poors complaining about a gun

Honest reviews like this are why I keep getting pulled back to the Glock 'cult'. I really want to get into the 320 game because of all the options it gives me but mags are stupidly expensive, then there's the class action suit that has me not wanting an autonomous firing handgun if true. I might try Smith because I just keep hearing really good stuff about the Shield Plus and M&P 2.0s.

@boomee78

Жыл бұрын

Or just stay glock i pretty much run glock or walther now. But mags are expensive on the walther pdp as well. That being said pick a platform that disent drop and go off. And train

@thenricks5063

Жыл бұрын

literally the only reason i have a glock 19. I had the very first model of the p320. Then everyone found out it wasnt drop safe. So I sold it and bought a glock 19. Figured the g19 had been around long enough to know it was drop safe

@aggrodkreg4321

Жыл бұрын

I've dropped a loaded Glock 19 before. It is completely drop-safe. I also have two 1.0 M&Ps that have run great for me. The new models also have the trigger most people like (an Apex forgery) instead of the hinged triggers that take time to get used to. The magazines are solid, I don't think they will give you trouble if you do go that route. Oh, and the aftermarket for M&Ps is pretty much as robust as Glock's now, so you shouldn't have any issues finding holsters, springs, or whatever else to suit your needs.

@boomee78

Жыл бұрын

@@aggrodkreg4321 glocks and m and ps are the ones gettins sued sig with the 320s are

@aggrodkreg4321

Жыл бұрын

@@boomee78 I'm going to assume you said "Glocks and M&Ps aren't the ones getting sued, Sig 320s are." Glocks and M&Ps have also gotten sued by Law Enforcement for Glock Leg situations... which are almost always the user's fault. While I agree that Sig should know better, going off of running lawsuits is no good way to determine reputation here. Every one of the big manufacturers has gotten dinged at some point.

I owned a 509 not long after they were introduced. Thoroughly unimpressed. Sold it off. No thanks to FN pistols for me.

Big ol’ lips…. 😂😂

Don’t hold your breath

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

I don't

Don’t like the 509, the grip size is insignificant, if that’s all you got to talk about. C’mon man.... you do great reviews but this was pushed out so you can post something. Do better bruh, we know you

@mattr918

Жыл бұрын

Well that magazine issue is the thing I'd be paying attention to.

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

You stopped watching early..... clearly.... 9 magazines not functioning worth a damn didn't seem all that big a deal to you did it?

@jimjab3631

Жыл бұрын

@Regular Guy Training LLC 9 mags from a pistol that looks like it ran thru Kmart with a magnet. Compensater? What other things has this guy done to the poor pistol? Get a stock o e and run it, then we will talk, not so e low rider pustol with curb feelers sticking out. Said with love and respect, but bad video bruh

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

@@KennyRodgers930 absolutely was not an ammunition issue dude you can tell when the timing and ejection looks perfect but the failures to feed and the friggin follower stalling issues are spread across all magazines..... that it ain't the ammo that's your problem

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

@@KennyRodgers930 being clear I'm not acting as if you don't. And yes, all of them were new either shipped with the gun or bought online

Why would anyone get this instead of an M&p?

@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC

Жыл бұрын

Only thing I can think of is that it's ready for a compensator and the factory optic mounting system is way more solid

@mattr918

Жыл бұрын

I bought one after seeing 6 fns9s get the absolute shit ran out of them and none had issues. The 509 was really the next generation. Plus i know a dude that was part of the guns development and he spoke highly of it.

@boomee78

Жыл бұрын

@@mattr918 the fns9 was a better platfom every 509 i have gotten had issues

@mattr918

Жыл бұрын

@@boomee78 interesting, what issues have you seen? I'm probably only sitting around 400 rounds on mine and fortunately haven't seen any issues yet.

@solidjax793

Жыл бұрын

.....what if I already have a M&P? Maybe I wanna try something different every now and then....