Floyd Rose or Gotoh 1996t - Full Nerd Discussion

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I've been wanting to check out the Gotoh 1996t locking bridge for a while and couldn't believe how cheap they are compared to Floydrose.
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00:00 - Nerd Out
02:45 - Floydrose Test
03:37 - In the Box / Install
10:19 - Gotoh Test

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  • @NathanMichalik
    @NathanMichalik5 күн бұрын

    It's my fav bridge. The Gotoh posts are actually locking too! Over time and sometimes right out of the box even the OFR posts have some play in them. The 1996t is the best kept secret for floating bridge players

  • @bc454irocz89

    @bc454irocz89

    5 күн бұрын

    Yes! The only problem is they are super big so sometimes theres not enough meat on the guitar to drill out to fit the stud anchors

  • @TheSlowik98

    @TheSlowik98

    5 күн бұрын

    every set of floyd posts ive ever had produced play. even the multiple sets of originals ive had had at least some play. love the gotoh and all its extra features

  • @toby2581
    @toby25815 күн бұрын

    To me, the Gotoh is way better despite being a lot cheaper. The shape of the bridge is nicer to palm mute against and the knife edge is so glassy smooth.

  • @mandosmurfett3129
    @mandosmurfett31295 күн бұрын

    I've been looking into the differences between the two for a good while now. It's good to see one of my favorite KZreadr's put it into terms I can understand.

  • @2livedrew337
    @2livedrew3375 күн бұрын

    I’ve got a Gotoh on my Jackson DKR MIJ. It’s easily comparable to an OFR from an engineering/craftsmanship perspective, in my opinion anyway. It stays in tune and I’ve had zero issues. Intonation is on point too. I play in Eb and I barely had to make any adjustments from stock. One thing I’ve noticed is that I actually prefer the Gotoh for palm muting etc. It doesn’t make any difference in tone, it just seems to be slightly more comfortable on my right hand. Overall, I actually prefer the Gotoh, and for the price, it’s sort of insane how cheap it is given the quality.

  • @nasserrana7920
    @nasserrana79205 күн бұрын

    Love these videos you’re doing nowadays. Been subbed for yeeears and cool to see you making these no BS videos like a mate telling a mate

  • @LambChopper678

    @LambChopper678

    5 күн бұрын

    Thanks mate, really appreciate it

  • @johnscott2076
    @johnscott20765 күн бұрын

    2:55 SLAYER!!!!!

  • @3lth
    @3lth4 күн бұрын

    I love that the Gotoh fine tuners are angled away from the bridge so you can palm mute without worrying about accidentally moving the fine tuners.

  • @ibanezleftyclub
    @ibanezleftyclub2 күн бұрын

    The 1996t is an absolute savior in the guitar world, Gotoh really hit a home run with them. I’ve installed and worked on a few and they are great.

  • @farkenfigjam8732
    @farkenfigjam87322 күн бұрын

    Gotoh stuff is mad. I have an Ibanez GRX70QA that I bought just over 5 years ago for $370 brand new. The stock tuners and bridge were ok but they weren't the best. I upgraded to GOTOH locking tuners and bridge and the change in tuning stability and sustain is absolutely awesome. I tune my guitar by ear and tune it a specific way and it doesn't really go out of tune. Just recently I went from Sydney to Brisbane for 3 weeks and took my Ibanez and MkIV with me and wasn't able to play until the second last day so the guitar just sat in the case the whole time. When I finally did play it the guitar was almost perfectly in tune. A slight adjustment on the B ang G string and that was it. I very rarely have to tune it any other time. Just plug in and go. It's my number one guitar and total cost for mods and a setup plus the purchase price of the guitar is less than $1000. Gotoh is Aok in my book 👍

  • @binkywarren21
    @binkywarren214 күн бұрын

    Love that you added those specs sheets. Thanks so much!

  • @Mintzer0
    @Mintzer05 күн бұрын

    I was a Floyd guy for years until I played a gotoh 1996 in a charvel and it honestly blew me away

  • @brandonwilcox9316
    @brandonwilcox93163 күн бұрын

    I replaced the Floyd rose 1000 on my LTD Buz 7 with a gotoh 1996t and added the locking studs too. It’s pretty much impossible to knock that guitar out of tune. The gotoh trem just feels way better overall, the arm feels so much better with zero play, it’s more comfortable under my palm. It takes everything good about the original Floyd and refines it and fixes the flaws of the original Floyd. For anyone doubting the quality of the gotoh unit, gotoh has been manufacturing the Edge and Lo Pro Edge for Ibanez for decades and those are considered some if the best locking trems ever made.

  • @fuzzyprosl
    @fuzzyproslКүн бұрын

    I love that block trick!

  • @likcxs1530
    @likcxs15305 күн бұрын

    your a legend Lamb.

  • @PACK-ge5gu
    @PACK-ge5gu4 күн бұрын

    This bridge came stock on my Mj socal Charvel And i love it

  • @zsrmx1
    @zsrmx15 күн бұрын

    Dude yes! I needed this video. I am looking to order the Gotoh for my EVH wolfgang standard. The FR special is trash, and shame on any companies using it.

  • @espn1337
    @espn13375 күн бұрын

    The gotoh bridge is fantastic, japan quality! It only costs around 150 bucks here in europe with shipping included :)

  • @semosen1016
    @semosen10165 күн бұрын

    another great video, thank you for the presets

  • @jesselambert7233
    @jesselambert72335 күн бұрын

    I have been looking at cheaper V's with the crappy Floyd Rose with the intention of upgrading to a gohtoh. It is like this channel is geared towards my desires haha. I love your older lesson videos.

  • @juniorkong9587
    @juniorkong95873 күн бұрын

    Down the road usually the screw in arm does get sloppy. The trem socket is very replaceable tho. On my 90,s Charvel/Jackson, I replaced the screw in socket with a standard socket and Floyd arm. Not hard to switch. Lambchopper I love your channel. You are one of the best around at thrashing out the stuff from the Tampa Bay bands. Thanks!! Keith.

  • @chugmarks
    @chugmarks5 күн бұрын

    I threw one of these on my Jackson dk2x and it is just such a pleasure to play now.

  • @gugzy
    @gugzy3 күн бұрын

    Cool video mate. I have one too and agree with everything you said. 👌👌

  • @maniekm3622
    @maniekm36222 күн бұрын

    That Slayer riff at the end 🤩🤟

  • @AhYesIndeedItsFunTime
    @AhYesIndeedItsFunTime5 күн бұрын

    Great video. Cheers!

  • @NateGrzesiak
    @NateGrzesiak3 сағат бұрын

    Great video! Been a fan for a while, man you need to do a mechanix guitar solo lesson video! I cant find one anywhere!

  • @BBGuitars
    @BBGuitars5 күн бұрын

    Guitars, Gotoh and Greencheeks, subbed... Your little buds are so well behaved, mine used to climb all over my guitars and try to eat the strings when I played, either that or started angry bobbing at my hand as it moved up and down...

  • @catalyzed8457
    @catalyzed84574 күн бұрын

    Awesome, thanks for this video, i have a couple of early 2000’s japanese jackson’s with floyd rose specials and could never justify paying the price for an original, these look really cool and i’m tempted to check them out now.

  • @bc454irocz89
    @bc454irocz895 күн бұрын

    Having one flat edge on the trem is a huge design advantage

  • @ekincn
    @ekincn2 күн бұрын

    I'm using GE1996t for three years and it's just amazing. Sometimes I don't tune my guitar for 2-3 days because this thing hardly goes out of tune!

  • @aquilarossa5191
    @aquilarossa51915 күн бұрын

    I had a 1996t back in the late 2000s. I do not know how good they continue to be, but it was a winner back then. Really stable and a nice feel, plus it had a quality engineering look to it. It was for an Allparts neck and body super strat build. That was when I found out that chucking a bunch of good parts together does not always add up to a good guitar. They still need top notch fret work, assembly and set up to be really great. I was quite impressed with an Ibanez edge trem on a RG550 Genesis I had for a week or so. Best thing about the guitar. Pity it was let down by a bunch of other stuff that felt cheap and was faulty etc. The reason I sold though was I could not get on with the super skinny and flat neck profile - I prefer the San Dimas compound radius or some of the Dinky stuff, or a good Explorer.

  • @higler.

    @higler.

    2 күн бұрын

    in case you didn't know, Gotoh make the Ibanez Edge.

  • @beastofthepriest
    @beastofthepriest19 сағат бұрын

    I'm installing one on my Schecter Damien 6 Platinum FR atm. Even with the stock studs, it seems like a perfect fit, but I will be installing the Gotoh Stud Locks as soon as possible. So far, I've only installed shortened saddle screws.

  • @scottward1194
    @scottward11945 күн бұрын

    My 80’s BC Rich gunslinger came with the Gotoh. I love it.

  • @KaddysJamKave
    @KaddysJamKave4 күн бұрын

    Oh man thanks for this! I've got 2 or 3 guitars with the bloody zinc saddles and I'm sick of them stripping. This is a bargain for the quality, You sold me!

  • @AllenPlaysGuitar
    @AllenPlaysGuitar5 күн бұрын

    I modified my JS32 Dinky with a 1996t bridge and I'm happy with the result. The vibrato bar is much sturdier and the tuning stability is improved compared to the Jackson licensed FR that comes stock.

  • @tdaytona77
    @tdaytona77Күн бұрын

    Another perk is that the Gotoh retains string height better on pullups due to the shape of the saddles. More range, basically.

  • @Grindspine
    @Grindspine4 күн бұрын

    Nice video! I've got two Gotoh trems and a few guitars with Ibanez Edge variations. I got an ESP E-II and am already discontent with the Floyd on that in comparison to the ergonomics of the Gotoh or Edge bridges.

  • @JD-vj4go
    @JD-vj4go5 күн бұрын

    Thank you. I have a Floyd Rose Special that needs replacement and I was wondering if the Gotoh would be a drop in swap. Its also in a Jackson V.

  • @rosskrause3926
    @rosskrause39265 күн бұрын

    I have the 1996T Gotoh on 2 of my guitars and love it..I paid $120 with shipping here in the USA. 2 for the price of 1 of the Floyd made in Germany models.

  • @GuitarGodsUnite
    @GuitarGodsUnite4 күн бұрын

    I actually have one of these in the box. I bought a vintage fender HM strat thinking I’d upgrade the old Floyd but the setup is so perfect on the guitar and it just works so nice I don’t want to mess with it

  • @andrewbecker3700
    @andrewbecker37005 күн бұрын

    Can't really go wrong with anything made by Gotoh. It's gonna be well engineered, and reasonably affordable. The standard.

  • @garettoverstreet
    @garettoverstreet3 күн бұрын

    Simply the best and only $119 here in the US! Also you need to replace the studs, the Gotoh ones are special!

  • @Tehstroyer
    @Tehstroyer5 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the reminder, lol. I actually have a Special in my LTD I've been looking into replacing with a Gotoh, but kinda forgot about it over time. Some nice tips about setting it up too. I keep it blocked, so I don't know a lot about floating it properly. Also, nice blocks with the little handle. I use a bunch of coins taped together and it does the job, but was thinking something that fills the space more would make it more solid.

  • @JgHaverty
    @JgHaverty9 сағат бұрын

    To supplement -> 1) There are various models that have different radii. Also, a lot of the floyds just shim out to get their radii. Manufacturers can OEM specs of various string widths and radii. 2) String tuning isnt completely dependent on the bridge. Its hard to objectively keep this test scientific; but in general, floyd rose original and gotoh 1996t are extremely comparable in quality and should never ever have any tuning disparity between the two. If anything, the gotoh has locking studs, so it technically should be more stable; though In practice it kinda doesnt work out that way (e.g. normal studs that arent wobbly are just fine; the locking portion is basically irrelevant, but it can matter in very very very minor niche circumstances) 3) that bushing on the gotoh is actually adjustable; some people like floppy trem arms, some people like tight ones. The OFR/schaller ones have that screw down ferrule thats ... less easy to dial in how you want. Its either tight or loose; you cant really have it in the middle there lol. Thats a big reason I prefer gotohs myself. Spec wise, a lot of people dont really understand what makes a floyd rose 1000 cheaper, or why an OFR/schaller is expensive. A lot of it is obviously WHERE its manufactured. Floyd rose 1000's are made in korea a lot cheaper than the american and german counterparts. Gotohs are made in japan and have a controlled cost comparatively. But spec wise, gotohs and OFR's have a fully hardened steel plate; the whole body is just hardened steel with steel saddles. On stuff like floyd rose 1000's, floyd specials, more of your cheaper imports you will have edge hardened plates (This is not really a *huge* issue ,but it is just less precise and more fast for manufacturing purposes and costs), and a lot of the saddles will be just pot metal on the real cheapo ones. 1000s are better overall; steel saddles, proper hardware, just made in korea more or less. At the end of the day, that "cheap gotoh" is used on EXTREMELY high end guitars from Suhr and Ernie Ball. Its almost functionally identical, usually just stamping and radius changes; though some have different string spacing (ebmm evh for example is more narrow than any you can buy off the shelf). If its good enough for eddie van halen, john petrucci, guthrie govan, steve lukather, steve morse, etc etc etc... its good enough for you (colloquially speaking here haha). Trems identical to OFR in quality, performance, and materials -> - TRS-101 (this one can be a REAL steal). NOT to be confused with ANY of the other TRS variants; especially ibanez; though ibanez does use 101's as well. - Ping OFR ; can be found real cheap sometimes - Schaller Germany has zinc plate but fully hardened pivots; much heavier than OFR's but equal in performance. .. but just get a 1996T - Obviously the OFR in general - Ibanez edge / lo pro are superior to OFR's in every way - Jackson JT580 - Takeuchi bridges (trs pro variants; they share model numbers with the cheaper ones, so make sure the block says "takeuchi" on it) These are also incredibly cheap and equal to OFR's. Specifically stay away from the "LO-TRS". This is a garbage trem. Pragmatically speaking, theres no real reason to change an ofr for a gotoh or vice versa. That list I gave is another bunch that shouldnt really be swapped unless specifically damaged somehow; you wont get a "better guitar" out of it. Though, your money and life so do what you will lol.

  • @J.Blomberg
    @J.Blomberg19 минут бұрын

    Could you do a video where you try to recreate tones with the Line6 POD Go? Would be awesome to see you experimenting with it.

  • @Zombie_13x33
    @Zombie_13x335 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the review! Been wanting one of these for a little while now. Just have to decide which guitar to put it in. Id prefer to just buy a new one. Nicer guitar. Like a jackson x series at least. I really want a warrior.

  • @JoeR203
    @JoeR2035 күн бұрын

    I have one in my Ibanez Jem Jr and have another one for my project guitar.

  • @JEKAFISHER
    @JEKAFISHER5 күн бұрын

    I got the 1996t in my RG760 after the 30 year old edge was on its last leg. It's phenomenal.

  • @TheBentNote
    @TheBentNote4 күн бұрын

    The 1996t is probably my second fav trem right under Ibanez's Edge pro. Japanese builders just kind of figured out how to make the best trems just shy of the any of the OFR/german made stuff.

  • @An2oine
    @An2oine5 күн бұрын

    FYI the Peavey Wolfgang and MM EVH/Axis use company branded Gotoh tremolos.PV has a Ping version.

  • @Mickocarbomb
    @Mickocarbomb5 күн бұрын

    Youll need to drill out the post holes with the gotoh, i cracked my JS32 king v body installing the 96T posts the first time.

  • @tonyy.8852
    @tonyy.88524 күн бұрын

    I have the Gotoh to replace the Sinclair in my ESP. This is the best term I've used, the tuning is super stable too

  • @GarryParker
    @GarryParker5 күн бұрын

    I swear by the Ibanez Edge trems which come with their Premium, Genesis and Prestige guitars. Also made by Gotoh but with an even better bar design.

  • @NathanMichalik

    @NathanMichalik

    5 күн бұрын

    I had a JS240PSCA and LOVED the (original?) Edge bridge. Most of the other Ibanez variants I've tried have been awful though. The Edge Zero ii in my axion was probably the worst floating trem I've ever used. I put it below a FR special it was so bad.

  • @GarryParker

    @GarryParker

    5 күн бұрын

    @@NathanMichalik yep, it needs to be one of the top line models, of which there have been quite a few over the years. Edge, Edge Pro, Edge Zero, etc. The lesser ones vary a lot in quality. It's worth doing the research.

  • @cdsmetalhead99

    @cdsmetalhead99

    5 күн бұрын

    That bar design is worse imo. Those little plastic bushings always wear out over time and they’re ridiculously overpriced to replace. In my Edge Lo Pro 7 the arm holder assembly itself kept coming loose and the whole bar would rattle. I would always have to remove the bridge and tighten the nut on the bottom side. I did that like four times before I finally put loctite on the nut and it hasn’t budged since. Haven’t tried the Gotoh yet, but I have the FU Tone push in arm on my Floyd which seems to be the same design and it’s been rock solid so far.

  • @GarryParker

    @GarryParker

    5 күн бұрын

    @@cdsmetalhead99 in my experience the bushes last for ages and the bar always stays exactly where it's put.

  • @brandonwilcox9316

    @brandonwilcox9316

    3 күн бұрын

    @@GarryParkerthe bushings last forever if you don’t remove the bar often. It’s removing and reinstalling the arm that wears them out on those edge trems.

  • @higler.
    @higler.2 күн бұрын

    The Gotoh is the best floyd. Gotoh makes the Ibanez Edge and took all the innovations from that, plus added a better arm adjustment system, and a brass block. Made in Japan, so quality is top notch, and the price is just insane. They even make a 7 string version now too!

  • @komando8365
    @komando83655 күн бұрын

    Didn’t even know there was any other option besides Floyd rose… this looks awesome.

  • @youWoNtLikeMe04
    @youWoNtLikeMe045 күн бұрын

    I have a mid 90's yamaha with a trs pro. Excellent tremolo.

  • @dav_e98
    @dav_e985 күн бұрын

    My just came friday. I ordered gold one with one emg 81 gold locking gotoh tuner gold and I'm gonna make an order in custom shop for guitar with the same V shape like urs but with one pickup. With golden lines. I like the gotoh they are really good made.

  • @nosivo13
    @nosivo134 күн бұрын

    Great vid’ I’m currently in the market for a new bridge So the gotohs whammy bar will always be a bit stiff? I like that the FR is loose & just gets out of the way after use. On my FR I lightly tighten so the whammy moves freely

  • @LambChopper678

    @LambChopper678

    3 күн бұрын

    No they sway in the breeze if you want, they just don’t rattle around

  • @trixdropd
    @trixdropd5 күн бұрын

    I had to change the sting lock bolts to shorter ones. I don't love the bar itself, but it's a good unit. smooth. I had to change the block as well to fit my axe

  • @brandonwilcox9316

    @brandonwilcox9316

    3 күн бұрын

    That’s the one issue I’ve ran into with the gotoh trems. They actually use the same string lock screws as the Ibanez original edge trem. They’re super long and don’t fit a lot of Floyd routes. As you said though it’s a simple fix.

  • @mathewpybus1599
    @mathewpybus15995 күн бұрын

    Great topic to cover man I've had guitars with floyd rose yrem systems on em and they were OK I steer clear of the really cheap units due to they're just a headache that doesn't last, I've wondered what the Gotoh units are like and now I know! Cheers

  • @ismaeldiaz7978
    @ismaeldiaz79785 күн бұрын

    I’ve been changing my Floyd Rose Specials and Edge II for Gotoh and are the best investment one can make on that regard

  • @dorkwithsometork
    @dorkwithsometork5 күн бұрын

    Love the pronunciation from Florida here we say gotoe as the pronunciation hoping to get a budget guitar w a floyed soon

  • @vladioanalexandru4222
    @vladioanalexandru42223 күн бұрын

    I got myself some Schaller original saddles for my floyd rose special. Replacing the whole thing is too much for me, but even this change meant no more canals forming because of overtightening the screws and more steady sound when doing squeals.

  • @oopsydaizi3s824
    @oopsydaizi3s8243 күн бұрын

    Have you ever tried the DualRocker tremolo system before? Kind of a mix between a Kahler and a Floyd Rose. They are pretty hard to find but i love that you can down tune a whole step without unlocking the nut. Would be great if anyone has used these and have tips on setting them up easily.

  • @XaleManix
    @XaleManix5 күн бұрын

    I'm in the early planning stages of getting a pair of Jem Jrs for stage use (I just do not make enough gigging to risk damage to my higher end gear, and want something a bit more superstrat-y to contrast my current LP/SG pair) and the longevity of the factory vibrato was one of my first concerns. Now i know what i'll upgrade them with if they fail! Cheers!

  • @brandonwilcox9316

    @brandonwilcox9316

    3 күн бұрын

    A lot of guys in the Ibanez group on Facebook use the 1996t in their Jem jr upgrade projects. You won’t be disappointed

  • @RequiemDead
    @RequiemDead5 күн бұрын

    This video exactly demonstrates why I love the gotoh...I am happy with floyd 1000 and German made series, but I will spend $250+ USD from FU Tone to do all the titanium/brass upgrades that I like for more mass and sustain. The gotoh nails it right out of the box!

  • @montauta
    @montauta5 күн бұрын

    GOTOH ALWAYS for ever and ever

  • @cdsmetalhead99
    @cdsmetalhead995 күн бұрын

    Those are beautiful bridges, would love to try one some day. I have an Ibanez with the Edge Lo Pro which is great but a little worn after 25+ years of use. Love the Original Floyd on my ESP as well. I replaced the arm with the FU Tone push in assembly and it’s perfect, I’ve been using it for a few months and it still has zero play.

  • @quix99

    @quix99

    5 күн бұрын

    Its alot better than a lo pro, and i LOVE the lo pro. Its alot more stable, and you can feel its made out of stiffer steel. I prefer the full movement of the bar on a lo pro, but is what it is

  • @cdsmetalhead99

    @cdsmetalhead99

    5 күн бұрын

    @@quix99 Good to know. One of my biggest issues with the Lo Pro is the arm holder design. It would always come loose and eventually I had to put loctite on the nut on the bottom side of the bridge. It's great now but those plastic bushings still wear out periodically and need to be replaced. The grub screw design is way superior. If I ever replace that bridge I'll likely get the Gotoh 7-string version.

  • @lonehunterband
    @lonehunterband3 күн бұрын

    Have you tried wilkinson bridge? I have it in 2 of my guitars. I replaced a Gotoh.

  • @helloyu6270
    @helloyu62704 күн бұрын

    Wish gotoh had a shorter/flatter locking trem similar to the floyd pro or Ibanez lo-pro

  • @zyxwfish
    @zyxwfish5 күн бұрын

    You got to check out a Vega trem! It’s a replacement for a 6 screw vintage trem but it floats. Then you have to use a guitar nut buster to lock the strings past the nut. Two expensive pieces of gear but I think it’s the most radical trem that holds the best tuning, only if used with a guitar nut buster locking device. I wouldn’t mind trying a gotoh trem on something. The thing is don’t like about Floyd rose style trems is you need to use shims to adjust action on individuals strings.

  • @3ngi_n33r
    @3ngi_n33r4 күн бұрын

    I have a king V that needs a new bridge/nut. This sounds good, but, the flatter radius is a bit concerning. I get weird things happening at the higher frets with the existing Floyd.

  • @devious2172
    @devious217217 сағат бұрын

    I'm looking at buying my first KV2 and I wish so badly they made a KV2T with the normal KV2 inlays and headstock. Like they did with the RR1T. The only real option is to get a Mustaine KV1 if you want a fixed bridge in that style. And they're going for 5k-10k 😢

  • @calamityjohnny1646
    @calamityjohnny16463 күн бұрын

    Every time I replace a Floyd Special or a Edge 3, it's with the Gotoh. The only thing I don't like, is it doesn't come with the locking nut.

  • @muhhyayoo
    @muhhyayoo5 күн бұрын

    Put a 1996t on my Dean Caddy and its amazing

  • @luckymchl2074
    @luckymchl20744 күн бұрын

    A couple years ago I bought a Gotoh 1996t with the 36mm brass block to put in a Jackson Dinky, never got around to it, then sold the Dinky. Wondering if you, or anyone can tell me if this would fit on a 1996 Ibanez RG450DX with the old Shite Lo-trs ii Trem? 20 years ago I pinned the original lo-trs ii to be a hardtail. It holds tune very well. I replaced the pickguard to have 1 pickup, 1 volume. Added a Dimarzio D-activator pickup. It sounds killer, and plays very well for a 30 year old cheapish Ibanez guitar. LOL. But I think it's time open the Trem up, and I have a Gotoh, and has anyone done this with an Ibanez RG. Thanks. Love your videos bro.

  • @brandonwilcox9316

    @brandonwilcox9316

    3 күн бұрын

    It’ll fit but you’ll need some shorter string lock screws. The ones on the gotoh are super long. You can get a shorter set for like $20. It’s a great upgrade for those guitars.

  • @luckymchl2074

    @luckymchl2074

    3 күн бұрын

    @@brandonwilcox9316 I just ordered a set. I did not know they made shorter string lock screws. Thank you very much.

  • @jimclark7917
    @jimclark7917Күн бұрын

    I have been using the original floyd rose tremolo since it first came out in 84. I would be terrified to change that since using for 40 years. Every Jackson, Charvel, Robin, Hamer etc., that I own, has an Original Floyd Rose. Not planning on swapping out 80 plus guitars with Gotoh tremolo.

  • @These_go_to_eleven_1959
    @These_go_to_eleven_19595 күн бұрын

    You can't go wrong with either But I do prefer the GOTOH 1996T.

  • @Petedang
    @Petedang5 күн бұрын

    All the Gotoh stuff is quality, their locking tuners are excellent also.

  • @nunyabidness5150
    @nunyabidness51504 күн бұрын

    the tuning stability will be better when you swap out the posts as well

  • @TristanJCumpole
    @TristanJCumpole5 күн бұрын

    I built my last two guitars with Gotoh GE-1996Ts and what I can say about them is that they are awesome, with two caveats. The first being the length of the string locking bolts at the rear of the bridge. These are longer than an OFR, but can be replaced by the same parts from an OFR. This means the Gotoh might not fit correctly in the back end of the tremolo recess, with the bolts colliding at the back. I designed my guitars to allow a few more mm to allow for this unnecessary oddity. I also noticed that the tremolo is a little "sticky" in the neutral position, re: tuning also. A quick pull brings a slightly flat tuning back up, and a press can drop the tuning. I've had this in OFRs also, but hey. The only bridge I prefer over either is the Ibanez Lo-Pro Edge, but that has its own quirks. I suspect that the OFR/1996T tuning issue may be in the knife edge between the posts and the bridge, and may become smoother with time and use. Not sure if lubing might change this. It could also be movement in the claw/screws settling in use. I might swap out the springs at some point and check for differences. Overall though, the Gotoh units are absolutely a parallel choice against an overly-expensive OFR. Some people just want "authentic" and can't see past that towards alternatives that are just as good. Gotoh all the way for me.

  • @oopsydaizi3s824

    @oopsydaizi3s824

    3 күн бұрын

    I have the same tuning problem with my ibanez edge 2 tremolo. The tuning goes sharp when i pull back on it but pulling it down corrects it. Wonder if it has anything to do with the knife edge

  • @TristanJCumpole

    @TristanJCumpole

    3 күн бұрын

    @@oopsydaizi3s824 This is my thought also. The opposing tensions between the strings and the springs is not linear, and near the neutral point the differences become so negligible that any lack of smoothness in the knife edge fulcrum can "catch" and leave the strings/springs in equilibrium, but in a false position. I sometimes donk the bridge with my palm to bring the strings back in tune if a dive catches them flat. It's pretty common.

  • @Evilcolonel
    @Evilcolonel5 күн бұрын

    I tried upgrading the zinc parts on the Special that came with my EVH Wolfgang Standard. What a huge mistake. I put it all back together and now it won't return to pitch or anything. I'll be getting a 1996 sometime down the road. In the states, it's quite a bit cheaper than an FR 1000 and half the price of an Original. Unlike a lot of people, I actually like the stock screw mechanism on the original FR arm, but I'll be fine with the 1996.

  • @Mickocarbomb

    @Mickocarbomb

    5 күн бұрын

    Just save yourself the time and money and get a real Floyd tbh. I've had all three, special, gotoh and now the original and nothing beats the real Floyd's honestly.

  • @Evilcolonel

    @Evilcolonel

    5 күн бұрын

    @@Mickocarbomb Interesting. What issues did you have with the Gotoh?

  • @Patrick-857
    @Patrick-8575 күн бұрын

    I'd make sure you swap out the posts for the best quality Floyd ones available, (assuming they're cheap nasty ones) if you're not going to use the Gotoh ones. Otherwise the Gotoh will destroy the soft metal ones, and won't stay in tune. I love my Gotoh GE1996T, which came standard on my Japanese Fender Stratocaster, but it's a 10 year old guitar that's been played heavily as far as I can tell, so at some point I'll replace it. All Floyd style bridges wear out. Luckily the Gotoh is so reasonably priced and easy to swap out.

  • @marco19-93
    @marco19-934 күн бұрын

    Hey Lamb!! It's the same Radius? Most of Jackson are 12" to 16" compound Radius. Have you any info? Greetings 😎

  • @LambChopper678

    @LambChopper678

    3 күн бұрын

    It’s a great radius, 350mm. Little flatter than FR’s 305mm. It matches the Jackson fretboard perfectly.

  • @blakkno666
    @blakkno6665 күн бұрын

    Thought about getting a Floyd for my 'dimoflame' but the licenced trem is flawless, I can wail on it all day and guitar stays in tune.. owned it since 2006 and glad I didn't spend the £200+.

  • @brandonwilcox9316

    @brandonwilcox9316

    3 күн бұрын

    A lot of the higher end Dimebag guitars had Schaller trems or OEM licensed trems made by Schaller and those were great. Schaller actually did the manufacturing of the Floyd rose trems.

  • @Max-bq8fm
    @Max-bq8fm4 күн бұрын

    Schaller too

  • @brandonwilcox9316

    @brandonwilcox9316

    3 күн бұрын

    Schaller lockmeister is a great trem and is cheaper than a floyd. I still personally think the gotoh is a better trem.

  • @JacksonGuitarsPlayer03
    @JacksonGuitarsPlayer035 күн бұрын

    Raining blood!

  • @Dejoblue
    @Dejoblue4 күн бұрын

    The Gotoh is just more refined. The fine tuners' also have 5 more half turns available @ 22 compared to FR's 17 and the fine tuner bridge-plate is also angled back more to give more palm room making it even more comfortable, very close to a FR Pro. FR fan for over 25 years, just bought a Gotoh recently and never going back to FR; if spending that kind of money I'd opt for the Schaller LockMeister; even then I am still replacing the LockMeister arm because of it's terrible collet design and replace with a traditional screw in arm like I do all my FR bridges.

  • @rxrinaz6536
    @rxrinaz65363 күн бұрын

    not very many people know that Gotoh made the original Ibanez Edge trems. Nor , that their parts interchange with Ibanez. The 1996T is basically an Edge w/o the bulkiness. Its a much better built FR for half the price.

  • @Holtenstein
    @Holtenstein22 сағат бұрын

    I have an Ibanez XPT700XH and I can't stand the trem system. The angle makes it so you can't eyeball it to level. Was thinking of a Sophia trem but they are about $$ and I don't really see an advantage. In fact I had a Sophia block on a trem and the wheel to adjust the spring tension was so tight that it was useless. I think I'm gonna pick up a Gotoh and upgrade this Ibanez.

  • @jimb7816
    @jimb78165 күн бұрын

    Does it have the same bolt patter as the floyd rose?

  • @Speedboar
    @Speedboar5 күн бұрын

    What Jackson king v is this? I’ve never seen one like it before. I haven’t had a chance to watch the whole video yet.

  • @LambChopper678

    @LambChopper678

    5 күн бұрын

    2019 KVX

  • @russellvanvleet7457
    @russellvanvleet74575 күн бұрын

    Nothing beats the original lo-pro from Ibanez!!!

  • @markproctor3100
    @markproctor31005 күн бұрын

    I have more questions 🤣Will the Gotoh post go into the existing post holes? And if they don't is it ok to use the existing posts?

  • @LambChopper678

    @LambChopper678

    5 күн бұрын

    No, it's a different thread. Much coarser pitch on the Gotoh. I put a little loc-tite on the Floyd pins so they feel stiff and don't turn by hand when the tremolo isn't fitted

  • @markproctor3100

    @markproctor3100

    5 күн бұрын

    @@LambChopper678 do the existing post work etc fine? I've seen somewhere as well that the lock pins at the back barely fit and that you can't push the saddles back very far to intonate the guitar 🙄It's a bit complicated for a newbie like myself but maybe worth it my Floyd special is awful doesn't stay in tune at all really 🤘

  • @illexploityou
    @illexploityou5 күн бұрын

    I been using the Gotoh GE1996T over the FR Originals for custom commissions AND for my own personal guitars for years. In my opinion there is not a better locking tremolo (save titanium alloy FR's) in the market, especially at the same price point. The Originals are comparable, but they feel different, and i have to say, i love the feel and features that come with the gotoh trems over the FR. in fact check out my noodling video that i posted a couple years ago with the headline that makes a great claim about the ge1996t =)

  • @kornonacob
    @kornonacob4 күн бұрын

    Emg guy...i use emg too.... Kerry king emg box set

  • @gaberox1
    @gaberox12 күн бұрын

    So is it a direct swap to drop in a Floyd 1000 cavity with no additional routing?

  • @LambChopper678

    @LambChopper678

    Күн бұрын

    Direct swap yes

  • @gaberox1

    @gaberox1

    Күн бұрын

    @@LambChopper678 that's awesome and we can just use the original posts from the Floyd if we wanted? All my older Floyd 1000s work great I have a few from like 2017 ish that are perfect. It's the newer 1000SE and 1500SE the ones with stainless steel screws that I seem to have issues with. They just won't flutter and the always buzz at the trem arm. My one FR original is amazing though.

  • @francescobarbaro7114
    @francescobarbaro71144 күн бұрын

    Besides being a great bridge, I found a black left handed one (and that could be enough to call it a miracle 😂) for 135$ new!!!! (150€ shipped to Italy) My LTD KH-202 couldn't be happier... 🤣

  • @s_everett454
    @s_everett4545 күн бұрын

    I get why you blocked off the bridge when you were tuning, but what is the reason you didn't go ahead and put all 3 springs on in the beginning? Genuine question, not trying to be smarty pants lol

  • @LambChopper678

    @LambChopper678

    4 күн бұрын

    All good, you only need to remove 1 spring to do the job. There’s more than enough string tension to overcome the other 2 springs

  • @These_go_to_eleven_1959
    @These_go_to_eleven_19595 күн бұрын

    My 1996T Has a push in arm? It's not threaded?

  • @christianboddum8783

    @christianboddum8783

    5 күн бұрын

    It's both, look at the bottom of the bar, the treads are on the inside!

  • @markproctor3100
    @markproctor31005 күн бұрын

    Did you not need to change the nut? I have that exact guitar and the Floyd Rose special on it is awful but I've been reluctant to change it 🙄But the Gotoh one seems excellent 👌

  • @toby2581

    @toby2581

    5 күн бұрын

    No, there's no real reason to change out the nut if the existing one works.

  • @markproctor3100

    @markproctor3100

    5 күн бұрын

    @@toby2581 thanks I assumed because they have a Gotoh nut you had to change it 😏🤘I'll definitely be getting a Gotoh ASAP 👍

  • @markproctor3100

    @markproctor3100

    5 күн бұрын

    Does the 36mm block fit? I'm fairly sure my Floyd Rose special that came with my Jackson King V KVMG is 32mm 🙄

  • @LambChopper678

    @LambChopper678

    5 күн бұрын

    @@markproctor3100 It fit with about 4-5mm spare in mine. There's different kits you can get that have other size blocks. The store I got mine only had 36mm

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