Only Dawid can make a video where literally nothing changes by the end, yet I’m not even mad. The experience was worth it 😁👌

@lantrick

Жыл бұрын

not only that, but the non-problem continues to be a non-problem.

@goddamnthieves

Жыл бұрын

well it is Dell, why or how could things even change xD

@youravghuman5231

Жыл бұрын

Only Dawid can find non existent problem and create a solution only to fail it miserably 😂

@brando3342

Жыл бұрын

@@user-rn9bo8io1e Maybe I missed that part. The end said it’s the same, I probably misunderstood haha still worth watching anyway 🤷‍♂️

@Abdallah-pd9my

Жыл бұрын

@@brando3342 bruh did you just skip the video to the last 20 seconds lmao

I love the fact that both of us are still strugelling with rtx 3080 high temps! I bought a turbo edition 3080 from gigabytes, I tried AIO cooling with kraken g12 but memory temps were not good, So i just gave up and fixed it by replacing thermal pads and paste, And definitly undervolting

Found your channel about 3 days ago and have been binge watching ever since. How did I miss this honest tech channel for so long? Great stuff.

@t3amb4sh

Жыл бұрын

This is kinda what I did about a year ago! And I do not miss a vid ever since! Click the bell and enjoy 😎

@im_godness7990

Жыл бұрын

What I Love about the Channel is the approach to do Things differently. Not the 0815 reviews you see everywhere!

@MoultrieGeek

Жыл бұрын

@@t3amb4sh I keep telling myself "just one more" and then its 3 hours later.

This is crazy coincidence! I just bought one of these cards a couple of days ago and was looking into if it was possible to get better temps only a couple of hours before you uploaded this! Safe to say I'm just going to boost the fan speeds and leave it at that after this madness 🤣

@f0x4nn3

Жыл бұрын

XD well you can do the thermal paste thing, cause you don't need to take the back-plate or the vrm/memory heatsink off for that.

@IIHydraII

Жыл бұрын

Undervolt it. I dropped 12c on my 3070 with 60-80w less power draw!

@pf100andahalf

Жыл бұрын

Do the thermal paste thing

@liberteus

Жыл бұрын

Thermal paste brings the best results. Memory junction and hotspot went down 98C to 84C at peak. Only thing that really pisses me off is fan noise. When it gets high rpm is noisy af and i can't stand that. Still looking for a solution (deshrouding didn't work)

@pf100andahalf

Жыл бұрын

@@liberteus undervolt it.

I love the silly random videos like this! Your channel is unique and amazing!

@Jay_the_Caffeinator

Жыл бұрын

There is nothing better than seeing how Dawid squeezes the WORST tech to its limit!

These types of videos are the reason I love Dawid so much. They are entertaining. We also might learn something at the same time.

@stefan6941

Жыл бұрын

But! We also might'nt!

6:22 "It's not a huge difference but not everything has to make a massive difference it's progress!" I hope you guys remember this for all your new years resolutions and understand that no matter how small the progress is, as long as you keep improving yourself it's enough.

@crisnmaryfam7344

Жыл бұрын

and to be perfectly honest... for the tiny bit of effort, and tiny bit of thermal paste.. 8C is a pretty huge bonus. In the realm of Gpu/Cpu thermals and such thats pretty damn good.

@Dhrazor

Жыл бұрын

We just have keep moving forward...

@bradhaines3142

Жыл бұрын

accepting mediocrity is still mediocre, even if you're ok with it

COPPER SHIMMMMMMMM (between cooler and plate) Definitely the way to go. I did this on an old Nvidia Ion powered netbook many moons ago and the difference of 0.2mm between the shims I tested made several degrees difference. Plus you can thermal paste the shim in to the right position and clean up the residue. Mounting pressure should keep it in place

@crisnmaryfam7344

Жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea at all if you can get your hands on the stuff and/or are crafty enough to make it

@Eric_Von_Yesselstyn

Жыл бұрын

This 100% you can find them on Amazon and I still have some. Copper Shims do work in the right circumstances.

I did something weird but it kinda worked for me, But it was not a great idea I bought some aluminum waterblocks from aliexpress and ziptie them to the front and the back of gpu and made a watercooling loop, The temps droped by 10C but it was not worth it So i guess the best way to cool it is to get a gpu waterblock

Considering how hot we see this type of memory (sometimes pushing upwards of 106c..) Down in the mid 90s at stock is pretty good and getting it to the mid 80s with the added thermal paste is stellar. Good job Dawid.

my boy doing gods work

Wasn't putting a fan on the back of thr gpu a decent idea for the 3090 since it also had ram chips on thr back?

by far the most entertaining person on youtube. honestly your videos make my day

Hi Dawid! I've been bingewatching your content ever since I saw your Wish computer build! I just wanted to say thanks for giving me the courage and inspiration to finally build my own PC. You took what seemed so complicated to me and made it simple. I even got it to boot first try! I'm looking forward to more of your awesome content!

@JustKhari

Жыл бұрын

same i found him 2 days before my pc build almost a year ago

Found out about you from your talk on Broken Silicon and am glad because this is my favorite kind of tech content. Self proclaimed letting the other channels to the serious stuff and instead exploring the "kinda stupid" things you can play around with is great. Saying "mount" is a bit of a grandiose term had me cracking up, that's exactly the kind of caveat I need to add to descriptions of all my projects.

I am always amazed how quickly your videos come to an end.

Correct me if I'm wrong the little heatsink he used didn't do anything because he removed the thermals between the backplate and gpu.

@DMDMDM7

Жыл бұрын

yeah. i think he never changed that thermal pad that he destroyed. but not sure if he removed that backplate thermal pad.

I tried zip tying a cooler to a cpu before. It's pretty much impossible to get enough tension on them.

LOL what a video, for some reason my mind knew that zip tie air cooler wasnt going to do shit, but my heart wanted it so bad. Dawid, happy new year, excited to watch your channel grow in 2023!

Can there be one more test where the fan on the janktastic heatsink is the other way round? Just curious as its in the path on the exhaust from the CPU cooler.

I was hoping so much from that little heatsink. 😄 For context, I repadded my 3090 Eagle, stuck 8 heatsinks in the back, had a fan exhausting from the open bracket area (angled mount), my H500M case has superb front to back airflow and the VRAM temp was exactly 86c as in your case.

I'm actually so glad you made this video. Recently I've been wondering how much of a difference slapping a CPU stock cooler onto the backplate of a GPU would make to its cooling. And now I've learned that it does absolutely nothing! Good to know.

@matasa7463

Жыл бұрын

I think the issue is thermal transfer between the PCB and backplate, as well as the lack of mounting pressure between the cooler and the backplate. I think something like the Razer Peltier phone cooler with some Honeywell PTM7950 would work really well.

@EthanH1

Жыл бұрын

@@matasa7463 I know at least for my GPU the backplate gets REALLY hot under load, so at least for some the thermal transfer isn’t an issue. This also makes sense, because shining a flashlight between the PCB and backplate reveals a sizable thermal pad. More likely the issue is mounting pressure, since there’s only so much one can do to apply pressure when it wasn’t intended.

I love how you left enough of the cut zip tie end to make sure the wounds it inflicts are as deep as possible.

Next time try to put the back cooler on the rear side where that memory heat pipe is and its better to use a full flat one like in old gpus instead of your with a center puck.. anyway always fun to watch these experiments

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

today we are going to poke some of it's holes🤣😂🤣

Since the backplate already acts as a kind of heatsink with a heatpipe and everything, I wonder what it would do if you just secured a fan directly above the back of the memory and force air into it

Made my Holidays! A Dawid video wrapped in a bow!

What memory temp are normal? my 2070 super with +900 on memory heats up to 86°C and 84-85 without overclock, core temp is 70°C is this temps good?

Those in-game stats at 02:50 and 06:02 are they game specific or how does one render them? Are they part of GPU-Z or MSI AfterBurner etc?

@Bogdan00

Жыл бұрын

msi afterburner

I saw a page where you can buy copper plates as a replacement for thermal pads on the memory chips. This brings Temps down from like 90°c to around 60°c.

@BenState

Жыл бұрын

citation for a 30oC reduction or bs.

@i3l4ckskillzz79

Жыл бұрын

@@BenState no i saw a proof of the concept but used on a strix model where the cooler directly touches the thermal pads. it´s legit

@kenobi639

Жыл бұрын

I've seen this before. While it reduces temps on the memory, the shims are so effective at transferring heat into the heatsink that it unintentionally also increases the heat of the gpu directly as the heatsink is already saturated from the memory. Not saying it's not effective but it's not a clean reduction of 30 degrees as mentioned

Is it only me that wants a cooler like this in retail gpus as well? I mean it does not have a million rgbs on or useless crap like "game on" written all over it. And nice temps too.

@pf100andahalf

Жыл бұрын

It has a bright white GEFORCE RTX light but you can unplug it like I did.

@Demopans5990

Жыл бұрын

@@pf100andahalf Well, that isn't exactly RGB to begin with, compared to everything else

I was really hoping the heatsink fan on the backplate was going to work. I've been looking for a use for a few random aluminum ryzen coolers I have laying around

i heard if you fill the case with ice cold water before you turn it on it will run at room temp or colder.

🤔 if you had taken the paint off the back plate where everything makes contact that might make a difference just a thought also what would a liquid cooler do 🤔

Glad to see, I mean hear, that the pronunciation of "tiddy-80" is back, it's gonna be a good year 😉 Aaaaand if I ever tried to disassemble a tiddy-series card (did once to a GTX 970 and all was fine) I'd be sweating thermal paste... I mean everything I've read states that if you rip the factory thermal pads and need to replace, they need to be the exact same thickness etc... I'd get it ALL WRONG, temps would soar and I'd brick my card 🤣

you probably needed more thermal paste. But you should really just get some 0.5 or 0.2mm thermal pads as they will much better spread pressure. I would also advise on better thermal pads between back of the board and backplate, but you'll have a harder time finding over 2mm pads than the 0.2mm, as that looks like 2.5mm or more (you can always stack them). My EVGA 3080 XC3 benefitted a lot from the most basic pads stacked on top of each other (it had none from factory), and its backplate doesn't even have a heat pipe like this card does.

I don't know if you can trim them to size without boogering them up completely, but what about those graphite thermal pad thingies that some people are using on their CPUs?

The fan was sucking hot air from the cpu exhaust and the heatsink wasn't properly mounted what dod you expect?

I cool back plates too, only I just point a 140mm fan at it, works great

Big D., I'm SOOOOOO glad you do all of this crazy crap so I don't have to. Happy New Year to you and to all...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Dawid hey all you have to do is get a normal fan and put it over the back where the capacitors are and have it blow into it I was able to mine on my 3090 is a closed case cuz of doing that and I tried heatsinks but the fan being sooo close to the capacitors and the back memory it worked great but with a Dell 3080 is there memory on the back also? If so I would just get a 1800ish rpm fan and have it match go with your case fans like since I use Corsair fans they arent loud I just use a fan hub to keep all my case fans together and I keep them at 100% but I’m also used to fan noise which is crazy how people care soo much about noise cuz once you turn the game on you aren’t gonna hear it unless you are playing with the sound at nothing but why would someone do that? I take performance over quiet any day of the week

I have one of these and I love it. Many people think OEM always suck, but honestly this design is pretty cool.

Was there actually a before test done before the first strip down?

Instead of putting the thermal paste on the heatsink and putting it on, its better to put thermal paste on the individual VRMs and then let the cooler spread it out, much like you would on a CPU. I had to do the same on my MSI laptop. For some reason they used a thermal compound instead of thermal pads so I didn't know which height thermal pads I had to use. So I just put a spot of thermal paste on each and whacked the cooler on. Its only reeeaally good.

@riannair7101

Жыл бұрын

Thermal paste will dry soon ,that is exactly motive to put good thermal pads over memory gpus!

@ADunleavy

Жыл бұрын

@@riannair7101 Not really, it'll take roughly the same time to dry out as the CPU/GPU's thermal paste to dry out which means by the time I repaste it doesn't matter much. Its just a bit longer cleaning.

@riannair7101

Жыл бұрын

@@ADunleavy if contact pressure between thermal paste and radiators are poor (that is be the case) guess what is happen...Fast Dry , is like you leave thermal paste on direct contact with air. You dont need faculty to observe that!😉😉

@ADunleavy

Жыл бұрын

@@riannair7101 I literally opened it a couple of days ago and its completely fine. I repasted 2 years ago. So no, its not a fucking issue.

@riannair7101

Жыл бұрын

@@ADunleavy Depends with what thermal paste you use (type gel thermal paste is more resiliant to dry in contact with air than one (thick) with very high viscosity(thermal grizzly kryonaut for example). BTW not need be mad for entire Earth not gravitate around you !😁

what are you using to display the CPU and GPU Temp and Power Utilization?

Haha good memories putting thermal paste onto 4 old heatsinks (2 cpu ones and 2 motherboard little ones) I had kicking around and putting them on the backplate of my 3080 which I'd swapped thermal pads on. Great video!

My MSI 3080 Ti Ventus 3x VRAM runs around 90-92C during BF V and about 96C during heaven. I have it in the O11D case in verical mode with 3 Be-quiet 120mm intake fans under it. The case fans are controlled by the CPU temps so if i ramp them up a bit that mite lower the temps a little.

i got a Acer Predator RTX 3080, will it be ok still if i don't touch it and just apply thermal once a year or two?

These are all things we need to know! At least someone with a camera tried it.

I haven't finished watching, but I will say that K5 PRO would be a great substitute for thermal pads in a case like this. Consider something like that in the future. Works great for my GPU and motherboard water blocks.

@wombatcombat3770

Жыл бұрын

i was thinking the same thing. K5 Pro, but its pretty messy and difficult to remove when its time to do GPU maintenance.

@abhinavkumar4063

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... Linus also made a video about it...i think

@smartperson1

Жыл бұрын

@@abhinavkumar4063 Yep I only found out about it because of Alex's video on LTT. It convinced me to give it a shot, and I've been pleased with the sustained performance of it so far. Messy? Sure, but I don't mind a little bit of mess.

Happy new year's from Oz everyone

@alexanderthegreatish4079

Жыл бұрын

can agree

@WyattOShea

Жыл бұрын

Fellow Aussies

how thick the thermalpad u use for the memory chip?

I'm confused, why would cooling the backplate do anything? It's literally raised so that it doesn't make contact with the back of the board to avoid short circuits. Would it make more sense to get thermal pads and layer them in the area between the actual heatsink and the inner "heatsink"? Thermal paste typically works best when it's a thin medium that helps to make contact in those tiny areas where there isn't direct contact (which is why a lot of enthusiasts lap their IHS). Just having it globbed on probably won't do much. Thermal pads are made for larger gaps and might actually do something.

is it better to use thermal pads that are a bit thin instead of that thermal paste you did? ngl it looks okay but i think the pads will cover more and make less of a mess. but that is very intresting result.

an interesting video to watch before the upcoming new year also, happy new year chat

Amazing what a little thermal paste in the right place can do.

If I'm not mistaken those Dell and Acer RTX 3080s are a slightly modified Zotac design. Mine is from an Acer prebuilt Predator desktop and has this same issue and the thermal paste between the frame and the vapor chamber indeed helped a lot.

I was searching this last night out of interest and now this spooky

bur the little fan zip tied on the back WAS upside-down and was it over the heat pipe?

@richardholland9925

Жыл бұрын

@DM_dawiddoes cool 😎 👌

Seen people do that back in the day with LGA1366 systems. Basically adding more cooling to the back of the motherboard behind the CPU socket. And yes, not connected backplates and those of plastic not only don't help mut sometimes make things worse by isolating. Metal ones with proper contact are basically heatsinks and fulfill the best function any plate could do.

@GewelReal

Жыл бұрын

I removed a plastic backplate off my Gigabyte GPU (never again I'm getting a Gigatrash)

I didn't read every comment to see if there is a similar to what I'm going to say. so... I see a lot of cases where the hot air from the cpu cooler is blowing directly on the graphics card back. I'm wondering is a different mounting position would make any difference in temps. and something else, instead of mounting a heat sink on the backplate, mount only the fan to blow air into those little holes and pushing throw the pcb. or take off the backplate and mount the heatsink with a few thermal pads on the back of the ram 😅

I have not yet seen the video. I just want to say that you are absolutely ridiculous and I love you for it. Very excited to see how you will adjust to the new YT policy on swearing. I am confident you will come up with a very Dawidian way to circumvent it. Happy new year to you.

I have one of these cards and if you undervolt it, flash the latest bios from dell which fixes the fan curve, and do the "thermal paste on the vram plate" trick to lower vram temps, it's as good as any other 3080. It's a real 3080 that's built like a tank and it's good.

I've tried putting a cpu cooler on the backplate before too... it didn't help me either

I use a dual GPU set up with an Intel Arc A770 and 2080Ti in my work rig, I just simply put 2 120mm fans on top of both GPUs as exhaust fans(A770 is mounted on the mobo while 2080Ti is vertically mounted, they have a slanted angle in between), so that even when using 390W, my 2080Ti never gets over 67C, and when A770 uses 223W, it never gets over 75C. I think extra fans do help with temps, just when they are put in the correct locations.

Just when I rolled a joint

@mikeymaiku

Жыл бұрын

I legit just heated my rig up when i saw the video uploaded

Dell OEM has a heatpipe on the backplate? Does the card come from a parallel universe like in comics?

I kept watching dawid contents and learn nothing but I do love them

I bought a HSF designed for backplate cooling for my 3090 and it definitely made a difference. I can see why it wouldn't make a big difference for a 3080 due to the lack of rear memory chips. Regardless, it's crazy how hot the backplate can get, even with the HSF added.

@Havok412

Жыл бұрын

I wish I knew these existed a year back. I used to simply put a fan ontop of my 3090 in the "pull" position and this kept the memory temps from going over 88 when I was mining with it. It was an NZXT fan meant for a radiator.

One of the most best KZreadrs if you want to see a person screw around with a 3080 maybe even one of the 40 series in the future this is the best channel to go to… in a certain point of view.

Love stuff like this i just find the tinkering around with hardware like this interesting

Another awesomesauce video Dawid!! Your 30 MMinutes later slides had me keep thinking they referred to the thickness of the thermal putty. Doesn't matter, I honestly thought the last heat sink would have worked after an hour or gameplay. It would have time to transfer into that hunk of metal. What if you just mounted 25MM thick fans to that backplate? Maybe see a heat reduction.

@pf100andahalf

Жыл бұрын

I've seen other fan mods for the backplate and nothing helps the backplate temps. As long as the core and vram temps are good that's all that matters anyway. Just don't touch it while gaming.

@Jay_the_Caffeinator

Жыл бұрын

@@pf100andahalf But wait, maybe if I get my mouth close and blow.... DAMN!!!

Can someone please tell me what software David uses when he tests games?

is it deepcool tharmal pad?

im getting 102 degrees hot spots on my 3090 is that normal?

the next step after ziptying the cooler to the back would be to DIY a bracket to hold it there. But yeah, where are fancy backplates with fins. Could work well as visual thing and as cooler.

@pf100andahalf

Жыл бұрын

Adding heatsinks and fans to the backplate doesn't work. I've seen several other times when people tried it during researching this card, and really all that matters is the core and vram temps are good. The backplate getting hot doesn't hurt anything.

My zotac 3060 seems fine,that is 12gb.Unless i profile it the fan rarely comes on.I set an idle at 25%.I did not like the stock setting.I like to know the fan is always working.With my AC on it got so cold my pc crashed.That never happened to my FX.But my AM4 does not like the cold either does the gpu.

The guy could make a video about putting thermal paste on his shoe laces, I'd still watch. He's just a fun watch, always.

Seen add for that same gpu user saying has issues maybe they are the same ones?

I had one of these cards before I got my 3090 and this is a known issue with these cards just doing the thermal paste helps a lot.

It's content like this that made me subscribe, sure some of the videos may not fix issues but they are fun to watch

I had issues with my RTX 3080 from Gigabyte, my VRAM got up to 106 degrees, replacing the Thermal Pads with better ones fixed it to around 80-86 max.

I have that crappy dell 3080. I used a whole tube of artic thermal oaste You could also put copper shims between the thermal pads on the back of the pcb and the back plate then used themal paste between the plate and the thermal pads. And i added small heat sinks on top of the back plate where the vram was located I went from 101c memory temps to 90c.

I love your videos and to be honest you are my favorite KZreadr. Wish you a happy new year !

Happy New Year Dawid & Anna!!!!

Dawid, You should have let the old thermal past dry out, chopped it up and snorted it for a more "chill" experience. Dell is the the most "slap happy" applicant of viable products on the market. I say this as an owner of various Dell "products" (aka: trash) that are still reviewed as "great". YOU are are a champion of hope! A beacon (not bacon) of reality of what is and what is not. As opposed to alternate realities IRL. For that virtue, I wish you the best of Holiday Seasons and Happy New Year.

first would be checking if the backplate even get so hot. if u can hold ur hand on it it wont make a big difference. second you need to solder that heatsink to the backplate to have real effect. and i think just better airflow in the case would do the trick.

I used thermal paste in place on putty on my 3090 and it ran a bit cooler, I didn’t have putty, didn’t even know what the heck it was, assumed it was thermal grease

Does Dell make 4070 ti or 4080 video cards?

I'm actually almost surprised you didnt do like a noctua strapping to replace it's nomal fans, cause it would do the job. interesting to see how good it's heatsink is. otherwise, very nice to see that process

Thanks, Happy New year!!! my favorite U-tube channel!

I really feel like if that air cooler wasnt in the way and you had that heatsink over that hotest point on the back it might help but maybe not because by the time its getting there im sure the RAM is heatsoaked

The thermal pad replacement that you could use is the Upsiren U6 pro, it's a thermal putty that can be reused and be molded like clay. So you'll need to do the pressure test onto the vram chips directly first to see if it makes contact for all vrams, then apply another thinner layer above the plate where you applied thermal compound with. Once both of them have contact, what you'll use next is KPX onto the gpu die. You can over compensate the gpu die by applying all over it either 0.5mm or 1mm in thickness to ensure that any kind of airgaps will be filled out and will help out maximizing the heat transfer for both the vrams and gpu die. *don't do the guides with copper shims, it's kinda a risky mod to do since it may damage the solder balls (it may crack, cause bridges/shorts, ripped pads etc) under the vrams if excessive pressure is applied onto it with the wrong thickness of the copper shim. As for the thermal putty it's a safer alternative as it will spread/stretch if excessive pressure is applied onto it. What you can also do is to apply kapton tape or Scotch Super 33+ electrical tape onto the capacitors surrounding the GPU die so that the capacitors won't be in contact with KPX incase that it spills over if too much is applied and less hassle for cleanups.

Think just the fan itself against that backplate will be better too lower temperatures then the aluminium heatsink + fan would.

Interesting test, I would have thought the fan would have made some difference!

@Incommensurabilities

Жыл бұрын

It probably couldn't do much because it was trying to get the heat from through the PCB, then through the back plate and over to the side (not the heat pipe side) and it just didn't cool much, even if the fan was going really fast. I once had a fan strapped straight to the back plate (no heat sink) and it helped lower VRM temps a bit, but it wasn't worth the hassle

I actually had done you're second solution with heat-sink and fan stuck to rear of RTX 3090 fe (3 Months back XD). But I used those small 5mm heat-sinks that are used for raspberry pi lol and stuck a small 40mm delta fan that goes to 10k rpm (didn't have much space with nh-d15). This contraption lowered the max memory temp to 86c from 94c. Given how cheap the solution was I have been happy since then. Those delta 40mm are not that noisy and have low cfm but high static pressure that makes this work I believe.

impressive that they have a heatpipe on the backplate. no other company did that for the 30 series cards

You could try graphite thermal pads. They are ultra-thin and have really good thermal conductivity.

even my evga 2080 was hot and loud so i ended up putting a kraken g12 on it and then had to buy some heatsinks for the memory and boy do they do a good job.. unless you pay stupid stupid money now they try and get away with as little as possible... so much greed its putting me off.. my 2080 is now running slower (maybe due to driver updates that slow it down) in games such as assassins creed odyssey that ive played for year, playing it again now and its noticeably worse with all the exact same hardware etc... some ol bulllllshit

I subscribed when you made the joke about little progress with 8 degrees, I like the 80's jazzercise music at 7:00

more entertaining than LTT this week, nice going Dawid!