This is so accurate. That's why I get so frustrated when people post hands on the pokercoaching discord and the coaches only point out how the people deviated away from GTO. They don't say things like "Hey you played this hand excellent and exploited your opponents weakness." No they say things like "You should have checked this turn here because what worse hands are going to call." And they completely disregard where the person says at the beginning the opponent was a LAG.

For me the #1 Mistake is not walking away from the table when I'm up substantially. I grind and the longer I go the more my Edge dulls and my decision making gets weaker.

@ltisenotem

Жыл бұрын

Walking away just because I'm up substantially makes no sense to me lol

@JorgeTorres-tx3rq

Жыл бұрын

@@ltisenotem he told u why tho. He said as time goes on his decision making gets weaker. Another thing could be if you’re up but a few people cover you and your not that great at deap stack play.

@ltisenotem

Жыл бұрын

@@JorgeTorres-tx3rq Fair enough. I'd say those are important things to work on instead of bailing when you're chip leader.

@francescoiadicicco1266

Жыл бұрын

You love being the big stack bully. I can't see what's wrong with that. I also love playing deep stacked. I can 3-bet wider and see more flops with speculative hands. Of course the bad beat is always behind the corner :P

@halostingray87

Жыл бұрын

@EyeOne Unblinded Right. To be clear I don't walk away the moment I'm up. I just mean I'm up and I have my schedule that I'm supposed to stick to and instead of doing that I go until I bust. It's dumb. But I've learned to protect my stack and pay attention to who covers me and make sure to be more cautious. Honestly once I get to a certain profit I focus on stack protection, widen my playable hands and push the nuts for profit. Also have a little fun pushing the table around if everyone else is pretty short stacked and bleed them out slowly.

I am +20.2k this year playing 2/5 no limit but I’m still making a ton of mistakes. It seems every time I call a river bet they are good. Nobody is bluffing! Nobody is out to get me! They just have it lol

@BigBundy82

Жыл бұрын

They always have it following the river jam ,,,

@PokerCoaching

Жыл бұрын

Nice work!

@qsdailydose8970

Жыл бұрын

@@PokerCoaching Thanks Jonathan!

These low stakes cash game videos are priceless, really taught me to start thinking.

I’ve been watching your videos for a few days now and I’ve noticed a drastic change in the number of pots I take down. I went from a straight forward player occasional bluffing with bad cards and getting the auto fold from the table to playing your tight aggression strategy and taking down lots of pots to folds and taking down much large pots when they pay me the whole way thru. Just wanted to comment and say thanks and do my part for the KZread algorithm👍you da man, thanks again! 🤑💵💵💰💰🤑🤑

@PokerCoaching

9 ай бұрын

Awesome! I'm glad to hear it!

Awesome explanation, as always Mr Little- Thank you!

REST IN PEACE MR Doyle. A true legend!

@jedaiahisrael5882

Жыл бұрын

There '10 2' crazy this week and hittings Tripps a few times, Philly poker.... I love Doyle but I'm not playing that hand.

@jamesstevenson3116

Жыл бұрын

He ran over my foot with his scooter at the Wynn several years back, I’ve never washed my foot since

@llntu1

Жыл бұрын

I play 10 deuce all the time now in his honor. When I win with it I say for Doyale.

Appreciate all the content man

Thankyou Jonathan!

Thank you

Thank you Jonathan

As always Tks coach

Going to rewatch this one daily

Thank you Jonathan :) Due to your teachings I've been able to purchase a home gym and other appliances! You are the man!

@PokerCoaching

Жыл бұрын

Awesome!

The point about "the player pool in general" is valuable

Jonathan: Thank you for sharing your wealth of in-depth knowledge with us students for free! You are a true philanthropist and you're making the poker world a better place. I am immensely grateful!

Question, to get these reads on players in online tournaments (basically anonymous) is it necessary or super beneficial to have a HUD?

Thanks!

@PokerCoaching

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video with lots of helpful reminders, thank you! Something I find myself wondering with lots of your videos: How much evidence do you tend to need as a player before categorizing someone into one of the camps you mention (e.g. calls c-bets too often, or even more detailed, calls c-bets too often with marginal made hands)? If you have a HUD for online play, or you play with certain people regularly, I can see that you could build up that kind of picture over, say, 5+ sessions. But is it possible to make these assessments against an unknown player during a single game/session? You generally see very few hands go to showdown in one game so surely it would involve a lot of speculation.

@jeffshackleford3152

7 ай бұрын

You can tell if an opponent is weak or strong pretty quickly, it takes a lot of hands before you " know " what they do wrong. You can have an idea of what they are doing wrong somewhere in between the weak / strong decision and knowing what they are doing wrong.

Texas 1/2 standard open is always around $12to$15. I love listening to your advice, but I don’t think raising to six dollars it’s going to work in my game

@brandonbuckley857

Жыл бұрын

I agree! The goal is to narrow preflop to you and one or two others. Raising to six is going to get you called by the whole table everytime in small stake games

When I, in LP, raise more often with a wider range, and become more aggressive, especially if i cbet on the flop, how do i avoid slow playing traps that my opponents will eventually change their strategy to? I might pick up their 10 blinds but eventually give it all back in one "slow played" hand from my opponent?

Limping after multiple limpers with low suited connectors is a big leak. I can't count the number of times i got flush over flush. I would much rather get my low suited connector heads up or fold

What I see in these 1/2 limit games is a standard 5x-7x open then 3-5 callers. If I 3bet, guarantee 2 callers who auto barrel and call the flop. I don't love constantly paying to be in these multiways, where opponents are firing away, don't understand the value of their hand and two pair or better tends to win.

Great Videos, Thanks

Im sure you have videos on this somewhere but how to deal with getting 5 calls with a 5x or 6x raise. It seems at 1/3 if people want to play their cards there is no amount less than 35 that will prevent them from playing.

RIP Doyle

When I first started using continuation betting, I did what I heard him mention where I raised the same amount every time I played the hand and then I raised that same amount on the flop no matter what. So I was always betting. But it worked amazingly well that day because I was catching hands so they would try to catch me. Bluffing. But I would always show up with a hand when they would try to call me down. So it had them pretty much guessing all day and had no idea. Actually at one point this guy the table just looked at me and in a very excited tone said what do you freaking have man! Lol never worked again. But I liked the appearance that you really never knew if I had a hand because I was always betting the same.

I can't believe the editor changed it to 5bb that's wild

@PokerCoaching

Жыл бұрын

I agree!

The biggest mistake I see low stakes recreational players making is not being positionally and situationally aware enough AND being far too passive. Most players want to play the same range from every position, so I make a ton of money by playing very loose and agressive from the button. Most players don't 2-bet and 3-bet nearly enough of their playable range.

For beginners? Not betting the value of their position/range (i.e., don't bluff enough or too much). After that? Not knowing when to quit - either when up or down.

Playing 1/2 my games the RFI is anywhere from 10-15. If I raised $6 I would get 3-6 callers just about everytime. Would you still suggest keeping it at a 3BB pfr or make a 5-7BB pfr

@soldiersofduck

Жыл бұрын

In games with super high standard RFI I will still rfi 2.5x-4x (depending on position) but I will do so with a more speculative-heavy range, suited connectors, pocket pairs, suited aces and only the best of broadway. These hands play best in multi-way spots where you can maximize implied odds. For calling/raising the big RFIs you want to tighten up and do so pretty linearly- suited broadways and high pairs. If any pot you win as not RFI is 2x as big as a normal game, that means you can wait twice as long before playing a hand.

@ai_master7

6 ай бұрын

Of course everyone is going to call you for 6 $

@PatrickA1

2 ай бұрын

​​@@soldiersofduckIn a multiway pot with more 5 players low suited connectors starts to have reverse implied odds.

Gto isn’t about finding spots where they screw up and it doesn’t care about an opponent’s skill level or whether they know gto or not. Gto is a framework for you to make the highest ev plays for every spot. And if you’re playing against new or bad players this often means you’ll leave money on the table because you’re nit actively trying to take advantage of their poor play. You don’t care how they play. A gto player knows the hand ranges for a given spot based on position for all players, then adjusts on future streets depending on what positions are left, pot size, stack size, etc. Gto doesn’t care if the villain showed down 23os five times in one session when they were utg and raised to 6x. They play their hand range in a way to give the highest ev against the villains hand range. Any adjusting is exploitative… and guess what… you’re not a computer so what’s optimal for you is to have a mixed strategy

Knowing when to 'fold 'em' but I call anyway, just to prove I was right about what he had, being pot committed, or just out of annoyance.

As for "if you're not playing 5-10NL or higher, you're messing up" it's also possible that where you live or play doesn't have a 5-10 game very often because everyone is a low limit player. Can't play 5-10 if the game doesn't exist in your area!

I got 25th in that tournament where u took thr pic with Doyle.

I tried being aggressive and reraising and 3 betting in a 2 5 game and got crushed... lost 400 in an hour was getting called by e1 and by hands that probably shouldn't have called.. i think i should've just played abc poker at this particular game and a lot tighter next time i play and when i do hit hands i will get paid off

I was trying to play GTO im small stakes, I got called millions of times, so I decided to just over value bet them, And the started over folding..

I have found that a lot of players are confused with the term “3-bet”

Limping is actually insanely lucrative at lower stakes where people rarely raise/3bet

@wompwomp7177

Жыл бұрын

For ex. Limping 22-55 EP and MP, theory says fold but when you never get raised just see a flop and spike ur set 15% of the time. The implied odds are there too because people stick to overpairs and top top

I don't triple barrel enough on scary rivers.

13:57 I love your content Jonathan but I 100% disagree with this advice. If you raise to 3x preflop in small stakes live games you will be called by more than half the table every time. This does not mean I’m replicating their strategy. Their strategy is to call way too often and fail to apply enough aggression. I’m not doing that. I’m just raising to the amount that I still know I’ll be called by bad players with a wide range. Does it require tightening my range a bit? Sure. But I don’t believe playing a wide range with a 3x raise against 5 players is a good idea either. It’s not like I can win pots with semi bluffs in those scenarios. It basically comes down to hitting top pair or better and getting worse value to call down. Not only is that boring and does nothing to develop my game, but I think it’s more profitable to raise to 5x when you know you’re still getting called loosely by 1-2 players. You’re just building the pot against players who will play worse hands than you, and you also give yourself the opportunity to bluff postflop into a smaller field. Also, most live cash games are played 150+ BBs deep. This gives even more incentive to build the pot.

@PokerCoaching

Жыл бұрын

It is fine to get called by a bunch of players, especially if you structure your range intelligently and they play poorly postflop.

@blakefredrickson6506

Жыл бұрын

@@PokerCoaching yeah like I said I still have an edge if I have a better starting range and better postflop play than the field callers, but again that still requires me to tighten my range and play ABC postflop. It does nothing to develop my game if it’s always “Did I flop top pair or better? No? Ok time to fold.” And heck, at some tables a 3x raise and a 5x raise will get the same callers. Why would I not want to build the pot if I feel I have an edge? I think strictly adhering to 3x raises in these games is blindly following GTO.

@majorleagueblackjack27

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@blakefredrickson6506 Having more people in the pot does not diminish your edge necessarily. It may actually increase your edge because of the size of the pots you play being larger on average (and assuming you are the better player on average). But it does increase the variance for sure. Thats the biggest difference. I deal with massive variance/volatility at blackjack already so i tend to lean toward a lower variance style of poker to make up for some of that. For example, Ill open to 30 at a 1/2 game if i think thats what i need to do to isolate and NOT start some call train. It seems unusual but winning poker players are unusual after all. Unusual doesn't even begin to describe some of the stuff I do at the blackjack tables, but that doesnt mean it isnt correct.

How can you think about all that in matter of seconds it gets so confusing. 27:00 min mark. Can somebody dumb it down for me?

@Trephining

3 ай бұрын

Sure: Make good decisions that rigorously apply logic to the situation.

1/2 crusher here opening to 5bb +1 for each limper or opening for 10bb in straddle configurations and winning $45/hour for 500 hours. This is with a $200 cap and an $8 rake. About to take a shot at 2/5 but worried I might have to implement a different sizing stratrgy lol.

Online poker is different playing live

Rip Texas Dolly!

12:08 no limpers online? He doesn’t play stakes under 30nl.

if I don't raise to 7.5bb in 1/2, I always get 3bet. and If i play tighter and raise 10 or 15bb, nobody calls me, if I raise 7.5bb the whole table calls me, when I'm playing tight. This is 1/2 in TCH Social, I used to play in TCH Dallas before social was built and it's the same. I'm going to try 3Beting my standard 8-17% range UTG-Button, maybe that's where I'm wrong even though GTO says I should only 3bet top 3% but you're right, they aren't playing GTO, they are just stupid gamblers preflop at least. Idk what I'll do against a 4bet becuase 4bet should either be min raise or all in becuase of SPR. I'll probably fold to them the first time and if they keep doing it I'll try calling them or going all in pre if I see them raising everything all the time.

This is just common sense. The table playing tight , bluff. Table playing real loose, tighten up.

@randypage26

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely

Yeah that ace high flush vs straight flush was a silly call. He could've folded that ace high.

Anytime you do anything predictably you can be exploited. GTO attempts to add rhe optimal amount.of variance to your strategies.

My biggest mistake is chronic bad luck. Always lossing to draws, lossing to complete trash, lossing with AA, KK, AK, never catching draws, always running into flopped sets, flopped straights & so on. Over & over & over. So chronic bad luck is my biggest mistake.

@worthplayingfor2197

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure there are other blunders in your game. As soon as you realize that you'll be able to improve.

@jdh219

Жыл бұрын

if you think chronic bad luck is why you lose then 99% chance youre making other mistakes consistently

@majorleagueblackjack27

Жыл бұрын

You sound like a call station 😂

@McRuffin

Жыл бұрын

@@worthplayingfor2197there was a period of time I filtered AQ+ JJ+ and over about 450 hands I was losing. You certainly can get unlucky over a long period of time. It happens. Might be happening to him.

low stakes players play too many hands

I think the funniest thing is people in the chat actually think they r good !!!!!

@Trephining

3 ай бұрын

I first read that as “people in chat think they r GOD”, lololol

If everyone is calling 5X opens, why would you still only open to 3X and use that strategy?

@christianvaccaro-gallo4010

Жыл бұрын

Changes the spr and would rather have a smaller pot multiway since we lose more often than in heads-up. Also leaves more room for potential obvious nutted squeezes which we can fold to or shove with the nutties

Not raising and not value bettingg

Low stakes plays poor post flop. Low stakes players play a wide range of low connectors and gunshots then don’t know what to do with the flop if it isn’t perfect.

@Not_A_CIA_Agent

11 ай бұрын

Shoving postflop/turn with a weak draw is the low stakes special. Funny when it hits though.

The long run that everybody’s talking about could be 10 years, so yes, skill matters and pays off in the long run but the long run could be fucking hundred years is the problem

too linear is the right way to say it

@PokerCoaching

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure it is linearly.

@pompi23851

Жыл бұрын

@@PokerCoaching You are right. It really sounds totally wrong and stupid but it is the right way to say it.

He is telling you that the computer gives you advantage.. so basically the computer is playing online poker

Making marginal calls when you don't have good odds to do so.

The main mistake is to play low stakes cash :D

Hahaha, you said jackoff suit. Such a sneaky little joke Little

They lilp to much

Love the info, but my god these……videos could be…… much…..quicker……if you……STOP…………talking like…….James T Kirk

Online poker is a scam. Just play in person… if your not computer savvy you won’t be successful at online poker… gto is a computer. You won’t be somebody who has multiple computers set up to play offs. Just get in your car and play live games

What a scam👎🏿

the numbrer one mistake semi-profitable "goodish" live players make is betting sports.