Hi Dork, I'm pleased you took my comment with some humour as I enjoyed hearing Your opinions about the bike I own. I bought mine aged 74 then rode it from Eastern England to Gibraltar, 4000 miles return trip via France, Spain and Portugal. It's the most reliable and "Comfortable " bike I've owned, hence my previous remark I made. Stay safe.

Chain maintenance: For every bike that I owned that did not have a center stand, I just used a simple car jack under one side of the swing-arm, usually on the right side to balance out with the side-stand. Bike will be tilted, of course, but its enough to get the rear wheel off the ground. Much easier than moving bike back and forth to lube the chain (used to do that too).

Left foot on the foot peg (side stand side) stand up and flick right leg over easy 👍

I started to hit the gym and lifting shit just because of this bike tbh

@Merkaba954

3 жыл бұрын

Yea i like the platform but ended up getting a XSR700. couldn't be happier. Such a fun bike

@georat16

3 жыл бұрын

@@Merkaba954 Hmmm...I've been thinking about that one. Very pretty. I currently own a Versys X300. Cheers! G

T-Rex Racing makes a very good centerstand for the '15-on 650s. Once properly set up, and it's not a ten-minute install, it's one of the very easiest centerstands to use I've ever had, even better than my '67 BSA was. The Motowerk lowering kit was absolutely necessary for the Missus. A Sargent Low saddle, too. Motorcycle chains need to be lubed every 300-500 miles, plus whenever they get wet. That rule has given me good chain life for decades. All of my own chains have gone at least 40K miles; the last one on my ZX1100E went more than 54K, That's almost competitive with shaft drives, excepting that you have to do the lube. PJ1 Blue Label, incidentally, for O-rings and PJ1 regular before that.

going from a Vstar 250cc in MSF to the versys 650cc , feel like im getting on a monster truck

SO GLAD you said this about the seat and "forward area" problem. Halfway through my second ride, I was just getting this pain...I figured out what was causing the pain, but not the reason or fix. Looking up the seat mod now. Thanks! Edit: And oooh on maintenance difficulty, how about that air filter underneath the gas tank?!

I've watched both your Versys videos and enjoyed them. I've been planning the exact same videos, I'm rocking a 12 Versys. It will be my ADV bike until the Tenere is released.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

Tenere 700? That thing looks sweet.

@mxgryan

5 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad Yup! Basically a Versys engine but with a 21 inch front wheel and real suspension!

I used to have a 1200 GSA. very tall. I used the peg with my left foot to climb my way up and then swing the right leg over. Now you’re on the bike while still on the side stand, no tipping over. Easy peasy.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

That's how I get on my CRF usually, but I haven't tried it on the Versys yet.

@russellborn515

5 жыл бұрын

I do the same on my Vstrom 650 with my 30-inch inseam. Definitely the way to go when the luggage is on.

@josephhutcheson5505

5 жыл бұрын

I do that too. The Versys is a tall bike on its own but I have added a tail bag and unless you can jump on the bike like a wild Indian the only way to get on and clear the seat with the bag is to use the foot peg.

@joewerne

4 жыл бұрын

yep, this technique works great on the versys, from either side. it's stable on the stand. i'm tall enough to get my leg over this bike without any stress, but sometimes i climb the pegs because it's fun.

Totally agree about the windscreen. Taking mine off and just riding without it.

I‘ve had my 2019 for almost 6 months... My take: completely agree about the windscreen, I went with Puig; no seat issues for me; hey! I like seeing my elbows! Nah, I’m getting those extenders; I have yet to see about the maintenance; yes, bike is tall, which makes it nice to ride and be at a similar height than small suvs. First mod for me? Engine guards (I dropped it on my first outing) Overall, I love it.

I was also scared to use the rear stand on it until i saw a guy at the dealership do it on his own and then he explained to me that once both sides are attached on the hooks you just pull and dont look back. I have done a few times like that without thinking about it and so far it has worked i have not dropped it.

Stand on the left foot peg when you mount up. Foot stand down, of course! Makes it easier to get your leg over.

Good info! I have been looking at the Versys 650 or 1000 as my next ride. I have to say your top 5 "improvement areas" are my top 5 gripes for any bike. My current BMW 1150rt has three of them it's stock/adjustable windscreen is excellent and mirrors are ok. I have talked to others who had a Versys and they all said overall it's a great bike especially the cost vs value of the 650. I rented one in Alaska and was totally sold on it ...

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

They are great bikes. These are minor complaints but overall it's a fantastic machine

@denismguitar1552

4 жыл бұрын

One thing to know is the Versys 650 and 1000 are quite different in how they feel to ride.

Thanks for the video of the same roads I ride my Versys 650 on! I've had mine about a month and am getting it dialed in slowly. I have the Givi windscreen now , too. Much improved. I have it adjusted below the lowest setting so it almost touches the fairing. I use a floor jack & block of wood at the rear of the reinforced part of the cat to get the rear tire just off the ground for chain maintenance (The kickstand still touches the ground and supports some weight). My bike came with a big (very comfy) Russell all day seat that i will probably sell. I want lower and narrower. I might go 1 tooth bigger on the front sprocket for less buzziness at 65 + mph. According to the digital speed signs going thru Millersburg on Old Salem, my speedo reads 52 when 50 is actual . Thanks again.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

I like your floor jack idea. I may give that a try!

@firesail6707

5 жыл бұрын

I'm with you on the 16 tooth front sprocket. It sounds like we need to make sure it has the rubber bushing that the OEM has (for vibration).

i have a 29" inseam, i bought an inch lower Sargeant seat on Amazon, i stand on my tip toes when i stop... i do fall over a lot.. i think the long shocks are worth it

Dork, for an American you do British sarcasm excellently. We call it 'taking the piss' over here. You may know it as 'banter'... Bravo sir.

@DorkintheRoad

3 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna take that as a huge compliment. Thank you 😁

Good review, thanks. I may purchase a Versys 650. I also have a 30 inch inseem. Was thing I'd install a center stand. This may help with mounts, dismounts, and working on the bike. I am no expert, but those are my thoughts.

@DubElementMusic

4 ай бұрын

its 3 years later but i hope you didnt get one, compare to the tiger or BMW, this feels like a plastic scooter

I lowered my Ninja 650S and Z750S. Helped tremendously and they still handled fine

for info, Hepco and Becker make a centre stand for the 2015- Versys 650, fitted one to my bike (2016 Versys 650LT), its excellent and unlike other makes available it DOES NOT interfere with the operation of the kick stand. Highly recommended.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to get a center stand

I a 2014 Versys last week, first thing I did was change the windscreen. Being 6'5, 260 this bike is perfect!!

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

It's a fantastic bike overall.

I thought that you made some very realistic points that we should consider before buying a Versys 650. Excellent video, thanks.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I have a Versys 1000 and the mirrors are perfectly spaced. My wife has the 650 Versys and we had to get mirror extenders like you have. The V1000 seat is also not nearly as sloped forward as the 650. We cured that on wife's bike with a Terry Adcock custom seat. Also my V1000 has a center stand stock which makes maintenance much easier. Add in more power, equal fuel mileage Ang my 2016 Versys 1000 is a fantastic bike.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

Husband and wife Versys team, eh? That's awesome. You guys must love them.

I’ll let you know when I pick my 1000 up next week. Thanks for the video I agree with your five. I picked up on some of them during my test rides.

Great video thanks, looking to get this bike

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

It's a great bike. You'll be happy with it

@denismguitar1552

4 жыл бұрын

Great bike! I’m on my second one. I put the Motorwerks lowering kit on both of them. I also installed 1” risers on the handlebars. ‘09 and a ‘16. Makes the bike perfect in my opinion.

Chain maintenance without center/paddock stand: Material: 2 roller stands, 2' of 1 1/4 slotted angle iron, 4' of 2x4 lumber. Directions: Cut angle iron into 12" pieces and place parallel on the floor. Cut two 1" pieces of 2x4 and screw angle iron into the middle of the 4" side. Take the rollers out of the stands (roller's axle will retract) an fit into holes that are approx. 9" apart. Depending on the width of the roller, cut remaining 2x4 to fit between the 2x4/angle iron/roller set-up. Nail, screw, glue, pocket hole (choose your favorite method of sticking two pieces of wood together) 2x4's to make a box. It doesn't work as well as a paddock (a.k.a. rear) or center stand but for about $50 you can work on the chain in your garage and also have two roller stands (which come in handy if you do woodworking). Oh and use a trampoline to mount your bike : )

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

What an innovative solution. Great directions, too. Thank you ;)

@njminer

4 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad Thanks. There is room for improvement. My design works best if you make sure the bike is perpendicular to the rollers and you put a shim under the kickstand to make it about 80 degrees with respect to the ground. Otherwise the bike will tend to creep towards the edge of the rollers. Boat trailers have a keel roller. It's a roller that tapers towards the center which will help to keep the bike centered. My solution was just a quickie.

i own a V650 and I fully agree with your comments, especially re the windscreen and the high weight. I thought I was not going to fitness enough, but i see it is not the only problem. Another thing is the vibrations below 3000 rev’s. the handlebar is shaking !!!

5:30 I gotta stop you right there. I have a 2011 Ninja 1000 with stock dual exhaust. Imagine someone holding a kite in front of you as you try to lube the chain, and you have 2 inches of space to lube the inside part of the chain. Very frustrating. Good review. I'm considering the 650 platform as I have been wanting a more fuel efficient bike.

I have a Ninja 250 and put Ninja 600 mirrors on it and the difference is amazing... All you do is swap the bases. The mirror stem is twice and long but I can see so well behind me now and it looks ok.

Couldn't you get a lowering kit for it?

Hey Dork, nice videos, watched them both! How do you feel about the brakes on your Versys? I have a '07 with ABS and everytime i practice emergency braking, i am terrified by how bad it is. The front end dives, the rear wants to lift off and the ABS starts pumping like crazy trying to balance the bike while alltogether my braking distance becomes enormous! Together with the already bad stopping power of the front brake, it is the main reason i am considering to sell my Versys for something lower, more modern, even though i am a 6'3" rider...

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I haven't done enough emergency braking practice with this thing. I have found the brakes to be a little uninspiring and I've had the rear ABS kick in in situations where I didn't think I should be even close to locking up the front wheel. I need to get out and do some practice. Thanks for the reminder.

@tylerharrington4515

3 жыл бұрын

Dork in the Road Hi what’s up? I’m at like 10,000 miles on mine. What if I upgrade to super awesome break pads when I replace my pads? Have you tried that? Do you think I should? Ya hat about steel brake lines? I read that can make the brakes grabbier too. Would grabbier even be better since the abs might function differently if the bike had upgraded pads and lines. What are your thoughts? Ps. I like my windshield, I keep it all the way down and it blasts me in the face unless I tuck down behind it.

Thanks for the great review once again Dork. I take it you are putting more miles on this than your Africa Twin right?

@DorkintheRoad

3 жыл бұрын

I actually sold this one to buy my Africa Twin

@forestmotoadventures

3 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad Okay 👌. Are you feeling more comfortable on a liter bike? That is a big step up! I am looking to go from my 230 CC to a Teneré 700 this year. I will keep my awesome Enduro though.

@DorkintheRoad

3 жыл бұрын

I like the AT a lot. It is a little harder to move around when you're not riding it.

What do you think about the Yamaha Tracer 7 vs. the 650 Versy?

I just got a 2016 Versys 650 a couple weeks ago and have much the same issue with the seat height and pillion seat. I tippy toe this bike on both sides, so I usually have my left foot down and generally only on the balls of my foot with my right foot on the rear brake. Hardly ever shift out of first because of having to pivot to the right just to get to the shifter at a stop. It's really annoying. But I wouldn't give this bike up even if it meant being on one more suited to my height. I absolutely adore it. Glad to have found it so quickly after having gotten my endorsement in November. Do you waddle the bike backward, or do you walk it backward off the seat? That would be one of my most hated things about the Versys lol. Having to walk it backward out of a parking spot and finding a spot that won't make shifting between the left and right side, an awkward challenge. After having owned this bike for a couple years, any advice you could offer to someone new to riding one? Take care, and stay safe!

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

I can waddle it backwards while sitting on it, but pretty much only on solid ground. I try and park proactively where I can just pull out forward if possible. As far as advice, I'd recommend the cheap seat mod if you haven't done it already. It levels it out and reduces the sliding forward at every stop. I made a video explaining it if you're curious. Cost me ten bucks and made a huge difference. Versys is a great bike! You made a good choice.

I recently bought a 2019 Versys 650 GT, agree about the screen, not had an issue with the mirrors. I’m only 5’8” with a 30” leg also and have replaced the seat with a lower one which uses gel padding, it’s narrower too. I’ve also bought a centre stand to make chain maintenance easier. Why bike manufacturers tend not to fit these as standard I don’t know! When I mount the bike I grab the bars, have my left foot on the peg and climb on that way, same for getting off, that gets rid of the leg swing anxiety!

@jasonjlodge

Жыл бұрын

Oh and topping up the coolant is a pain! Having to partially remove fairing, why?!

A center stand, better on/off throttle fueling and the thermo-bob are what I want on my versys.

Great video. I agree with all. Still love my v650. What phone mount are you using?

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

Quad lock mount. It's really great.

@cyrilsneer888

4 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad thanks. Where is you mount it to as not alot of room on the bars

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

Here's an in-depth look for you: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d22upbyxY6S-lqw.html

@denismguitar1552

4 жыл бұрын

I put motorwerks lowering kit on mine. 1” risers on the handlebars. Perfect!

i have woodcraft stands for this bike, both front and back. with spools installed, hoisting the back of the versys up is a dream, even without an assistant. super easy. i like working on the bike up on both stands, and chain work on the woodcraft stands is a peace o' cake. try it.

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

I'll look into it!

I had to comment on this, hopefully to help potential buyers, coincidentally those are 4 things I also had issues with my 2012 Honda NC700X, which is a direct competitor to the Versys more then the VStrom is. Both Versys and NC700X have tiny 17 inch front wheels which makes them both more street oriented as supposed to the 19 inch front wheel on the VStrom, so I will compare. 1. Wind turbulence, the main reason I sold the NC700, it is a curse on these type of bikes, in my case it really didn’t matter which windshield I used, I tried 3 different ones, they all sucked, am guessing it has to do with the peek fairing design and how tall these bikes are, the win buffering is a night mare. Note, some naked bikes don’t have wind protection but their design doesn’t create wind issues either so they are actually more serene and enjoyable to ride than these tall peek bird nose bikes. 2. The slant on the seat, yes it is a pain to constantly slide forward. Honda tried to fix the issue in 2015 by changing the surface in the seat cover material so a less sleek texture, it is a real issue, I made an adjustment to the seat front bracket to be lifted and it helped some what. 3. Center stand, the Honda was not a top heavy bike, it has very low center of gravity but still, lifting 400+ Lbs is a journey, and you better have off having someone to help you, I did find that leaning the bike towards me and just articulating on one single leg is the stands made it safer and more duable for me to handle it by myself. 4. Am glad Honda had a regular square swing arms that made it very easy to lubricate the chain without the use of the center stand. 5. The NC700X had regular cheap rear view mirrors that worked fantastic not an issue, also the Honda had a single halogen headlamp that was fantastic, it lid up the street amazingly, the best I ever experienced, proof that you don’t need LED, if the reflector is well designed, one single halogen bulb is sufficient. 6. Excellent low center of gravity, the NC700 feels the most light and nimble of all bikes I ever tried, it was a pleasure to maneuver at low speeds, not top heavy at all, here is why, the design, the cylinders didn’t shoot up to the gas tank, the engine was low on the ground with cylinder heads shooting towards the front wheel. The gas tank was not on top, it was underneath the seat, they the bike is designed with all the heavy parts below the rider, leaving top available to become a trunk, perfect to pick up beer and milk on your way home from work. 6. Issue with the gas thank, to fuel the bike, you have to lift the rear passenger seat, that meant unloading all my camping gear at every fuel stop, what a pain in the rear. 7. The height issue, I am 5’8 with 31 inch insteam, I could almost flat foot that was not the issue, but throwing a leg over was the issue, here is the truck, do it while the bike is on its kickstand, that is when you hop on the bike. 8. You realize how big the issue is with the height when you visit pleases like the tail of the dragon on the Carolinas, where everything is a hill and soft grounds, no flat surface to park the bike, so coming to stop and or hoping on the bike in such uneven terrain is a real issue unless you are 6 ft 3 with 34 insteam. I did a camping trip to the smokies on a stock NC700X, I did 4 days of 500+ miles each day, and that is when you get to hate or love a bike, the wind turbulence issue was the biggest pain, second was the stock seat, third was the height of the bike more because of the terrain I was navigating, all the hills etc. Overall I enjoy the bike so much that now I am looking for a similar bike, that is why I am here trying to learn about the Versys to only find out you are reporting almost the same issues I had with the NC700X. One more issue, Honda decided to protect the engine with a premature rev limited so that really hinder the amount of fun you could have enjoying taking off fast that was another pain to find the power being cut off so soon after every red light take off. I hope this help anyone on the fence looking into this type of bike. I had a 2012 model, since then Honda has increased the engine to a 750cc, improve the seat, and the stock windshield, so 2015 or newer models of the NC750X might offer a better experience than I had with the 2012, which so far by far has been the best bike I have had to go on a long trip loaded with camping gear.

@jayryan7473

2 жыл бұрын

That's a helpful write up! I've been looking at the CTX700 and NC700 the past 2 years. I like the idea that a dual clutch transmission is available on those. I recently found a 650 Versys for sale for $3,400 with 5,000 mi on it and I've been trying to learn as much as I can about it. I really don't need the power of the 650 V so maybe the shorter seat height of the NC700 is what I should also be looking at, especially with its trunk where the fuel tank traditionally goes.

i agree i have the versys 1000 LT same thing but the mirrors are not bad they may stick out more than on the 650. I have to step on the peg to get on every time like a stirrup on a horse.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

It is a bit like climbing into the saddle, now that you mention it...

It is a tall bike to mount even at 5'11" but I like tall bikes especially if I take it off-road. It helps to turn the handlebars fully right so you can lean forward without smacking your head on the mirror. Like you I changed wind screen and had someone modify the seat a little. I guess I just tolerate the mirrors. I do hate how difficult it is to change the air filter. It's a ridiculous tear down to get to it.

Hi dork why don't you lower your versys I find it a lot easier to get on now as am only 5ft 7

@jamesparker7907

3 жыл бұрын

Hey I just got mine and I'm 5'7" too. What did you do to lower it?

I installed mirror extenders and a new screen and I am in the process of changing seat. I have had a lot of bikes in 40 years and the versys 650 is no 2 and the honda vfr 800 was no 1. Unforunately had to leave the VFR800 in the UK when I left

How tall are you. Just trying to compare

And how was it that you corrected the forward sloping of the seat? Thanks

@doulos77

4 жыл бұрын

i bought a seatconcepts.com custom seat for then $169. i think it's $189 now. best seat ive ever owned

I don't agree your critic about the windscreen. What's your height? I'm 174cm (5 feet 8½ inches) and I haven't had any problems with buffeting. The seat, yeah the angle is awkward. But if you're touring, it's amazing actually. About swingarm, I cannot see the problem? Handing; Yeah it's not a sport bike. That brings me to a question for you: Did you choose a wrong type of motorcycle for your needs?

I just bought a new leftover 2017 1000 lt and only some of your dislikes apply for me. I'm only 5'7" so first it is a tall bike , but i manage it well. I own an 08 goldwing and traded my vstar 1300 tourer in on the versys and my previous bike was a honda vfr 800. so let me say that this versys feels light to me. now mine has a center stand but it's still kind of a weird angle to clean and lube the chain. i've only done this once so far as i have a littleI over 300 miles on it. My mirrors seem to work for me and the seat seems fine too. i have more of a problem with the boys on my goldwing. My windshield works fine too maybe because i'm short, so my biggest gripe would be the height and like you said getting on the bike takes a little thought and care. overall though so far i love it. Thanks for the vids with the honest opinions as it helped me when looking at new bikes.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

Man, I wish I had a center stand. That's something I'll seriously have to consider. Glad you're loving your Versys!

@firesail6707

5 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad even though I have the stand with spools I often just walk the bike a couple of feet at a time and spray (with a small cardboard piece behind the chain for overspray). If I'm on a longer ride, that's my program; not perfect but pretty doable.

@shugd3

4 жыл бұрын

@@firesail6707 fit a scotoiler, automatically lubs the chain and is adjustable for flow rate, been using them for years

I totally agree with you. I have an identical version of Versys 650 Orange 2016. 1. The stock windshield is ridiculous! 2. Side mirrors are okay, you can try getting a small blind spot mirrors. Place them on the corners 3. Seats, my butt gets tired after an hour of riding. So i changed to Cobra. 4. The foot peg should be a bit to the front in my opinion. Legs get cramped. Im 201cm..it sucks. 5. I feel the handle bars needs to be raised a little, some reviewers said it would make tonnes of difference. Is it a myth?

I’m 5””5 I get on the bike like mounting a horse ie stand on the footpeg to mount obviously on the sidestand side problem solved

@bsimpson639

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. I have a 27” inseam, and I do the same. I also have the Motowerk lowering link, otherwise I really wouldn’t be able to ride the Versys.

great vid, but I don't get why you said you're supposed to clean and lube your chain after every rides, that is just crazy. if you only ride on tarmac, it's sufficient to do it every 4-500 miles.

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

Mostly because I'm stupid or something. I don't actually believe that. I think I was trying to be sarcastic and it REALLY didn't come across.

I had the DL1000XT the other year. After all the awkward mounts and dismounts, something simple finally occurred to me. Come to a stop. Neutral. Turn off. Swing the kickstand down. Lean the bike onto the kickstand. Stand up on the pegs. Swing your right leg across the seat and put it on the ground. Remove your left foot from the left peg and walk away. To mount do the reverse. First put your left foot on the left footpeg, grab a bar, stand up on the peg. Swing right leg across and stand on both pegs. Sit down. Lift bike off sidestand and go about your ride. Why do us riders feel the need to swing our leg over a tall bike while we are standing on the ground? Do people mount a horse like this? Kickstands are stout. You can lean the entire bike on the stand and spin it around like a top. Standing on the pegs when the bike is in tripod mode won't hurt a thing.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

Something about the squishy footpegs on my Versys made me anxious about doing this at first, but now it's pretty much become my go-to dismount when I have stuff on the bike.

@exothermal.sprocket

5 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad Yep, tall bikes just aren't the problem they've been made out to be.

Buffeting: I am 5'10" and have 20k miles including many 650+ mile days. No buffeting at all in my experience. Seat: agree! I had mine reworked to remove the forward slope. Mirrors: They give good view of what's behind imo. Maintenance: install stand spools. I put mine on stand by myself all the time. Install a chain oiler. Seat height: it is a little tall. I have 32" inseam and it's a bit of a stretch.

Hi Dork, also consider being wrapped in cotton wool and placed gently onto the back seat of a Rolls Royce for your journey's. For gods sake man, it's a motorcycle, remember, the very reason you started riding a bike as opposed to being stuck in a metal box. I think what you really need is a convertible car. As others have said In the comments, the perfect bike hasn't been made yet.

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

I prefer to be wrapped in bubble wrap and placed gently into a Volvo. Much safer.

step on foot peg, swing leg over...the fairing buzz is my issue and the repairs utube not effective

The issue with the mirrors really surprises me. I'm strongly considering a Versys 650 as my next bike, and while I haven't test ridden one yet (I will be doing so tomorrow!), I have sat on one in the showroom a few times, and I thought the mirrors were quite good. And I'm 6'2", and my shoulders aren't He Man broad, but they're broad enough so that I have issues with some bikes mirrors. Maybe it'll be different once I'm actually riding.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

Admittedly, I didn't have the stock mirrors long, but I remember them showing mostly my elbows. It's a minor complaint, really all of these are. It's overall such a great bike I had to be a bit nitpicky to find 5 things to complain about..

@rogershermanmusic

5 жыл бұрын

Dork in the Road OK, well, I'll find out tomorrow, because I just bought a 2017 Versys 650!!! :-D

@firesail6707

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. I have the 2017 also and once adjusted, the mirrors are ok. We can lane split in California and I don't want them any wider (although the extenders are easy enough). Congrats on your '17.

Holy crap, the height problems you talk about are perfect for me... Most bikes are too close to the ground for me. But then again, I have a 36" inseam and can flatfoot every 650 dirt bike I've ever tried.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

You should definitely give one a shot. They're great all around bikes.

@exothermal.sprocket

5 жыл бұрын

I have 35" inseam and I find a lot of motorcycles that I like fold up my legs way too much.

Getting on a tall bike is easy. Step up on left foot peg, and use it as a step while leaning toward center of bike which is natural. Then swing right leg over. The bike will not tip over as long as it's on fairly level surface and kick stand is on solid surface.

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

I do that pretty often on my CRF. I haven't done it much on the Versys just because the footpegs feel...I dunno...squishy?

I never considered the unique characteristics of the V's swingarm angle and its topheavy weight distribution and how these impact the process of putting a rear stand in place. Bought a KLE 2009 about seven years ago, my first bike, think I hit a home-run choosing it. So the fact that I have always required my wife to help me mount the rear stand, I assumed was just me being a dork (as many youtube vids depict this being a fairly easy one-person action. Not so with the V.)

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

Well I may be over exaggerating the difficulty but it is definitely more complicated than my other bikes

Hello, I am a new rider and looking to buy the versys 650 2019. I read that some people are complaining about vibration over 5000 rpms and that is hard to lean it because it want to get straight in corners. Is this true, is it something that I should worry about? I am curious about your feedback and if you would recommend the versys 650 2019 to a new rider interested in week long touring trips with passenger and bags.

@joecamel6835

9 ай бұрын

It had no vibes at any rpms except idle when I test rode a 2018 two weeks ago , it had 9K miles on it so definetely broken in .And it leaned into corners real nice anytime over 30 mph .What bugged me is the locked on ABS under 5 mph ,it's weird but maybe could get used to it.The windscreen and seat were great not sure where Dork is comin from on that , i'm 5'9" .It has a sweet growl to the engine/airbox but the exhaust is quiet, just like I dig .Only reason I didn't buy it had to do with money.

I have yet to find the perfect bike.. But I keep getting older and changing my mind... Went from Honda CB's in my teens to Harley's.. about 12 or so of them.. Then a BMW GSA 1150.. Loved that bike. Bought it twice..lol. Then a Suzuki V-Strom 650.. Then a Kawi KLR 650 Digital.. Then a Honda Rally.. Now after many mods to the Rally. and moto camping trips.. I am selling her and thinking about a Yamaha 250 XT.. about 100 lbs lighter.. to pop. on the back of my RV... Grocery getter and trail rider... I keep going lighter..

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

Every bike will require you to compromise somewhere and our tastes change as we get older and more experienced. At least, that's how I justify the fact that I keep buying bikes to my wife.

@seaninness334

5 жыл бұрын

I'm getting back into cycling but I used to have a 250XT, way back when, I miss it so much now. Fantastic for light road riding and trails. I sold it to my brother who had it for years before he sold it. He says he still sees the guy who bought it riding it every now and again.

@exothermal.sprocket

5 жыл бұрын

@@seaninness334 I go through a bike about every 1.5 years. I'm on #10. I've ridden well over 50 bikes in total going to demos and other things. Funny how we crave new experiences.

@seaninness334

5 жыл бұрын

@@exothermal.sprocket there is something about that old xt250 though. I'm saving to get back into cycling and licking windows. So I can't quite get used to having my feet forward for a cruiser (that friends my age are urging me towards) I like sitting high, something flickable, mid controls- so now I'm looking at the naked retros, most likely, the yamaha XSR 900. But I also like the adventure bikes- or split the difference and spec out the Tetris with light knobbies for a scrambler thing- making the Ducati scrambler, the new Norton Nomad and others of interest, albeit more expensive than the XSR....rambling I know, sorry.

@exothermal.sprocket

5 жыл бұрын

@@seaninness334 I understand the disease. hahaha I don't like foot-forward either. I've tried them. I've ridden cruiser demo bikes. I can handle them just fine, I can lean them until the sparks fly, I can give the throttle all they got. I still don't want to own one and don't want to sit that way. I prefer the sporty-bike and sporty-ADV machines. Naked sports, and sport-ADV. I have 35" inseam and I'm 6-2". As such I prefer some actual size to a machine if I'm going to be comfortable for several hours, but I really hate giving up performance in braking, acceleration, and ground clearance (handling).

I heard a 19in front wheel fixes the seat problem. I have been looking for a bike for years, and it really pisses me off that every bike I am interested in has fairly bad flaws that require a lot of time and money to fix. Like your reviews of the Versys. Bad windshield, bad seat, stupid tire sizes, etc. It makes you wonder if these companies even bother to test ride their products before they decide to sell them. I hate, utterly despise, the fact that center stands are not standard. Side stands are stupid. Everybody should be able to put a bike up on a center stand to remove wheels, adjust the chain, etc. Also, every bike should come with crash bars if they have expensive fairing, as well as a tool kit that provides all tools required for servicing+maintenance.

Just purchased a 2012 Versys 650. What type of hand guards do you have on your bars and do you like them?

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

They're just the stock Kawaski ones that come with the LT model. I think they are actually pretty great.

@thesmallenginerepairguy

4 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad Ok thank you.

@doulos77

4 жыл бұрын

bark busters

You made a video on how to adjust your seat height, did it not last? As I was about to perform that over the weekend. For your mirror issue, I changed out my mirrors to the Kawasaki Z900 model, they are angled lower and no need of the extenders. All center stands are garbage and your better off using the spools. For your #5 step on the foot peg first then swing over your leg, and vice versa when getting off. You'll never scuff your cases again. 1 item I hate on my 2016 Versys is the clutch. I commute to work every day and in city traffic and I hate the clutch release from a stop, and my second id shifting into second. You need to be over 5000 rpm so it shits smoothly.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

I like the seat better after the mod for sure. I'm just mostly complaining about the stock setup so people know what they will want to think about changing if they get one.

@firesail6707

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with the shifting in the city. First gear is so low that I would tend to start in 2nd. I am thinking of adding a tooth to the front sprocket to widen the pattern a bit.

My versys stock windscreen is fine, maybe you are too tall? Seat comment is accurate, replaced mine. Stock mirrors are fine. I put spools on my bike, goes up on my stand just fine. I put a piece of wood under the kickstand to level it off a bit before lifting on the rear stand. I do it fine by myself. When getting on the bike, stand on the foot rest with your left foot before putting your right leg over. Also replacing the seat lowers the height so easier to mount. I have 48k on my 2015 V650.

I bought a 2018 Versys 1000 lt and I must agree with you that this bike is Top heavy. I went from a Yamaha fz6r 600 to this and in slow speeds and maneuvering it is very stressful. I’m selling it. I went too big for me. I only have a few years riding.

I agree about the windscreen. The buffeting is unbearable. I tried a slightly bigger screen from Revzilla, but it didn’t help much. Any suggestions on a good windscreen?

@DorkintheRoad

2 жыл бұрын

The Givi screen I had was awesome.

@robzplace4747

2 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad I put one on, and I do like it. It is much better than stock. I also added a Leo Vince Evo II exhaust which has an amazing sound. I absolutely love this bike.

how tall are you?

Your number 4 gripe is my number 2... cleaning the chain on this bike is no breeze ! I have the 2012 (cyclop version) of the versys and my numero uno gripe is the numbing vibes on the handlebar at typical backroad speeds (40 mpg) !

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

The vibration is pretty intense at certain RPMs

@ralfkennel329

5 жыл бұрын

shift into a different gear to change the rpm`s

Buy a motorcycle wheel cleaning roller from Harbor Freight, it makes chain maintenance/cleaning really easy.

I’d agree with the mirrors I bought new ones cause they vibrate so much you can’t see anything and I bought a T. rex center stand that works great but doesn’t help when removing the front tire also the exhaust is way too big and quiet

I have real issues with the throttle being like an on/off switch. It's so snatchy and to hold it at cruise is a real pain given how janky it can be.

Any suggestions if it will fit me? I'm a 6'4" 300 lbs 36" inseam rider.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

I think it's probably a great bike for you to look at, but there's no way to be 100% sure until you go sit on one and see for yourself.

@TallAndIndian

5 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad Thanks. Will do. Appreciate the reply.

@ricardojornada

4 жыл бұрын

6.4 in India? Holy Hell. Anyway, I have one too, the older model that is, and at 6.2 I find it to be the perfect bike.

@thomasvh4514

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Prasad, i have the same specifications as you. Love my bike. It will fit you fine.

@doulos77

4 жыл бұрын

@@ricardojornada 😂

Have you done the video about the seat? I'm having minor issues with uncomfortability, (is that a word? Yeah I think, I think I'm a dork too/:) anyways. Also, I live in Florida, any tips on letting my family jewels ride cooler? I know it's colder where you are though.

@samuelmathews6120

4 жыл бұрын

I just got to where you mention the seat mod. I actually think the seat is too soft. A firmer seat would be better ideal for longer rides.

Center stand solution for any bike, any rider- Take a 2x4 and place it in front of the rear tire. Now rock the bike rearward and stop on it using the front brake. Because the bike is now 1.5 inches taller, the side stand can be deployed easy peasy. Remove 2x4. You are welcome.

What is up with that black crap on the " improved" windscreen? To me that is super annoying visually. Is there no other option?

How tall are you?

I'm about to buy a bike. I need your opinion on Kawasaki Z650 vs Yamaha MT07. I will choose one of those two.

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

I'd say ride both and see which one you like best. I've ridden the MT and it's definitely a very sporty bike. Another idea: Check the insurance. It was crazy on the MT07 for me. That might help you make a choice.

@denismguitar1552

4 жыл бұрын

Z650 probably more comfortable if you ride all weekend I think. My son had an MT-07 and it happens crazy good torque, and will wheelie all day. But the handlebars grip seem wide, and I didn’t like the seating position as well as the Z. Best you try to sit on both several times imho.

@Jurica-mtb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you both. I went for a 2019 Z650 + tourer equipment which allows me more comfort. Also, I bought a full gear. I got so unlucky that because of this COVID-19 stuation my driving school was postopponed so I've got a brand new bike sitting in a garage. I waited my whole life to get the opportunity to get into motorcycling so I'll wait to get my drivng licence done and I'll ride it carefully. I'm a big fan of McRider, MotoJitsu and DanTheFireman. In driving school I was riding MT07 and I like that bike alot, especially the handlebar position. I have absolutely no experience in modifications and I always like to know other people's opinions. What do you think would a Z650 lose the handling abillities if the handlebar was replaced with a wider and straighter one like MT07 has? Also, I noticed there is a handlebar raiser adapter option available on Amazon. Why would I want a wider handlebar? I like the manuverability MT07 has and I'm not really into high speed type of riding. Share some thoughts on this, please. www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Handlebar-Kawasaki-2017-2018-Adapters/dp/B07MBNTMSF/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=kawasaki+z650+handlebar&qid=1585522309&sr=8-5

Getting on the bike would be grabbing your grips place left foot on peg bike will hold you up and swing leg over. You've probably heard that already but I tried.

It's 2021 and still no led headlight and no tft display

Ive been looking into buying a Versys 1000, 650 or the KLR 650. I want a dual sport to take off road. I have heard that the Versys are only good for dirt roads and paved roads and that you can not fit dual sport tires on them. Is this True??

@TomRaider410

4 жыл бұрын

Brandon Berg : you can. But it may cost too much to justify. You would not want to take a 217kg bike with standard ground clearance to serious off road. However, check out Versys man, he is in Thailand and his Versys is the happiest bike in the world.

@brandonberg7703

4 жыл бұрын

I've test ride the Yamaha XT 250 yesterday and man that thing is awesome for me!

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

You can fit some off road tires on them, but the selection is limited because of the smaller front wheel. It's really more designed to be street capable. If you are wanting to do much off road or adventure riding, I'd recommend the V-Strom or a BMW GS. If you're wanting to go full dual sport and ride off road a lot, I can't recommend the CRF250L enough. I love mine.

@brandonberg7703

4 жыл бұрын

I test ride the Yamaha XT 250 and that thing is awesome! I'm a beginner of the dual sport, and rode alot of crusirs and there limits to the road, boarderim is the first thing that comes to mind to crusirs.

That wind shield is awful how tall are you? Like 6'7"?

@grandenauto3214

3 жыл бұрын

I have a Givi windscreen.... the worse! But mine is a 2011???

2013 Triumph Tiger 800 has excellent stock mirrors.

Also, because of the seat height (I’m 5’7, 30 inch inseam) I just get on with my kickstand down. Just stand on foot peg and swing over. But I’m only 135 lbs. might be risky if you’re heavier. As for stopping and stuff, I just have good riding boots with a 1 inch bottom. If I’m putsin around without riding boots…well…yea it’s a one foot on toes stretch. Lol

5 THINGS that I hate about my 2009 Versys 650 ; #1 The Stock Windscreen (too small) #2 The Stock Exhausted (too silent) #3 The Foot Peg Position (too high) #4 The Buzzing Sounds (too noisy, but fixable) #5 The Stock Turn Signals (Not LED & not Water 💦 Proof)

@joecamel6835

10 ай бұрын

Not waterproof ? I think kawasaki knows a thing about making bike parts, come on .

Should've put a V-Strom 19in wheel on the front.

hi there, do you think a 5’7 asian can ride this bike? i need some recommendations and alternative brands thanks!😃

@DorkintheRoad

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, it's pretty tall, but not impossible to manage, especially if you loosen up the rear suspension so you can get a bit more sag. Best advice I can give you is to go sit on one and ride it if you can. It's the only way to know for sure.

@denismguitar1552

4 жыл бұрын

Install Motorwerks Lowering Kit and you’ll be able to put your toes down easily.

@sethdog1000

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on inseam. I'd keep it to 32" or higher. The author has a 30" inseam and has to tilt the bike on stops, and has to focus to mount it.

I was looking through your links as discussed in the video and didn't see one for the seat "evening" mod but I'll check your channel for it. Also the link for, GoPro Spare Batteries and Charger: amzn.to/2H66V4F, was not working. Off to watch part 2. Thanks for posting.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

I'll get that link fixed. Thank you. Here's the seat mod video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qY2Fm7Cpl9HYfso.html

It's hard for me to manuever my versys

Versys 650 is my second bike, after I started on a 2015 KLR... You want buffeting? Bad mirrors? Seat height? The Versys is a joy, in comparison, bone stock, at highway speeds. That said, my Versys does sport a givi windshield, too!

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

Before I bought my CRF250L I used to think I really wanted a KLR. I think they are great bikes for some people but I've heard enough downside to be glad I didn't end up with one. Versys is a joy compared to most bikes, at least those I've ridden.

Hi Dork. Thanks for the information. Thanks for the detail. Enjoyed all that, but man, you just gotta quit beating that dead horse on some of these things. How many times can you say, "I hate the stock windscreen"? I got it man. I got it after the first fifteen times. Go onnn to the next thing. Five minute video, tops. Took 10:21. Love ya, don't hate me!

@DorkintheRoad

2 жыл бұрын

Believe it or not, riding and talking at the same time is not as easy as some people make it seem.

I have a stock seat on my Versys but I have no problems with my testicles. The only problem I've had is cushion after a two hour ride or so.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

You don't feel like the seat is slanted forward?

@PriestsandParamedics

5 жыл бұрын

Dork in the Road nope! Granted this is my first bike so I don’t have a lot to compare it to but I have no problems with the seating position at all. I just wish it had a tad more cushion. BTW have you thought about getting a muffler for your bike? I got the Two Brothers slip-on and I love it. I have a video on my channel of the sound comparison if you’re curious.

@firesail6707

5 жыл бұрын

There is a slope but so much less than my BMW sport tourer that it feels. I got the Speedmetal gel seat pad from Cycle gear (about $50) and it helps a lot on longer rides. The Airhawk seat pad always gets good reviews too.

Yes you are right it is very hi up

Yea I take my windscreen off for long highway rides….ironic. Also, just get a spool rear stand at harbor freight for 30 bucks

Driven my Versys twice, the seat is tilted!

For the extra height, try switching to platform shoes bro.

Get the Tutoro Chain Oiler and never clean or mess with your chain again.

Te seat heigt is high. I bougt a lowering bracket from aliexpress. very cheap

No motorcycle is perfect. Take the windscreen off and don't worry about it. It's red, what's not to like? The seat? Are you kidding? It's Red! I'm 60yrs and live in Michigan, Sell me that motorcycle Cheap! Thanks for sharing.

If you use the rear stand with spools it is really easy to do alone.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

I need to get the parts so my rear stand can lift spools

My thoughts and "fix" for my '17 650 Versys: 1. I've tried a tall Puig windshield (Givi's is 3cm taller) and I hate it: in the highest position there's a very remarkable sail effect on highway speeds and top buffeting. No air in hot weather will be crazy. So refused to buy touring windshield and I'm staying with a stock, using ear plugs. I don't do any vlogging, yeah. 2. Seat. Bought two pairs of cycling underwear shorts with the gel bulge. Problem solved. 32 inches inseam, even with highest preload I'm controlling the bike. 3. Mirrors are OK to me. Using without extension even it may be better with... 4. Installed center stand first day, chain maintenance is easy, washing is easy. 5. No a problem for me. Using left footpeg, I don't touch my sidecases and top box.

@DorkintheRoad

5 жыл бұрын

I've heard a ton of good things about cycling shorts. I may have to try a pair. I really wish I had a center stand myself.

@michaltymowski9310

5 жыл бұрын

Hi. I also use the left footpeg on my Versys and problem no 5 is no problem any more. Good luck

@vsimileac

5 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad The only one available in Canada - SW-Motech. So, I've installed it. Not the best one because it causes obstruction to side stand at closing but usable. In US you can buy also T-Rex Racing centerstand kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZZn2c2phNi8g8o.html www.t-rex-racing.com/versys-650-center-stand-p/n54-15cs.htm . I don't know if it has the same problem as SW-Motech. The best one which is perfect and has no issue as I know is european Hepco & Becker center stand if you have a chance to order it. Cycling shorts are good enough for 2-3 days non-stop riding. If you do more - buy a Sargeant or Corbin seat.

@vsimileac

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaltymowski9310 It's the only right position to get on a tall bike: grab handle bar with both hands, squeeze front brake, left foot on a left footpeg and get on on the horse ))) From the first very time I'm using it, it's 100% right tip.

@chrismccullough531

5 жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad I got my center stand off Amazon $105.00. The instructions were terrible. I downloaded the SW-Motech directions and used them.