Five Reasons Marvel Phase 4 Sucked

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The recent leaks about Marvel being extremely unhappy with Phase 4's reception got me thinking about how and why this franchise went off the rails. So let's take a look, shall we?
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  • @XeniaChow
    @XeniaChow Жыл бұрын

    Can somebody please tell Marvel that having female characters tell their male counterparts that they have suffered more than them when the men have literally been physically abused or even tried to commit suicide is not cute or empowering? Thanks. Yours truly, a woman

  • @redalertsteve_

    @redalertsteve_

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed. Its also not even correct

  • @whenpigsfly8178

    @whenpigsfly8178

    Жыл бұрын

    Only financial failure will get through to their bosses.

  • @ndfdm5705

    @ndfdm5705

    Жыл бұрын

    @@redalertsteve_ based alert. Women have it infinitely better than men...for the moment. Undoubtedly life will have a way of switching that up given enough time.

  • @MS7000_

    @MS7000_

    Жыл бұрын

    What can we expect from a company that fired a man over a woman’s false allegations ( and may I add never apologized for his firing too) Disney hates men

  • @AngeredKabar

    @AngeredKabar

    Жыл бұрын

    @@whenpigsfly8178 and even then, they'll get a financial stimulus from the American Taxpayer because it's so important that the plebians get their bread and circuses.

  • @LahLahMan
    @LahLahMan Жыл бұрын

    Thanos was the good guy after all. He tried to prevent this from happening. He tried to save us from phase 4 and beyond.

  • @NTTofMistery

    @NTTofMistery

    Жыл бұрын

    thanos did nothing wrong

  • @nathanielthompson3339

    @nathanielthompson3339

    Жыл бұрын

    And he looked back on a thankful universe.

  • @physical_insanity

    @physical_insanity

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't agree with Thanos's goals, but let's just go back to before Endgame released.

  • @himayamata

    @himayamata

    Жыл бұрын

    If you think about it, he gave them 5 years before Phase 4 started

  • @dumlord1581

    @dumlord1581

    Жыл бұрын

    Now what he said in endgame makes more sense Thanos: You should be grateful

  • @oniplus4545
    @oniplus4545 Жыл бұрын

    that one scene where Riri tried to recreate the same flight test as Tony's mark 2 so effortlessly, even magically made the icing problem disappear, my heart was crushed, that ironman scene was vandalized by some "genius teenager" who can do it effortlessly without any notable effort at all compared to Tony who literally had to test it with many, many trials and errors, literally undermining his legacy by making it something that can easily be replicated by a girl not even a third his age, even already advancing to energy repulsor tech in the first armor

  • @joshuashaw2923

    @joshuashaw2923

    11 ай бұрын

    And the thing is if she had some connection to Tony or had his designs that’d be totally fine! Like Peter Parker had Jarvis so it makes sense that his suits would be prevented against the issues Tony faced because HE ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THEM

  • @shawndashno6022

    @shawndashno6022

    11 ай бұрын

    This is the reason Riri needed more time if they were going to go there, Instead, they shoehorned her into Wakanda Forever. She actually DID have Tony's schematics. She burned the copies before they left the warehouse. The problem is it's a "handwaved" sentence on how she got them, or how she got the materials to build it. I remember when Marvel cared about a character's backstory, especially when it's linked with a legacy hero. Oh well, that's too much to ask, guess I care a lot less now. 😂😂

  • @looinrims

    @looinrims

    10 ай бұрын

    Did you expect anything different from the diverse female protagonist?

  • @turbo8628

    @turbo8628

    10 ай бұрын

    They did the same thing with shuri years before that when she made stark and banner look like complete idiots (despite their whole shtick being that they are geniuses AND they had more experience with the technology).

  • @oniplus4545

    @oniplus4545

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@looinrims let's forget about diversity and stuff because "modern producers" will always do that shit to the point it's best to simply ignore it and actually talk about the actual problem of Riri's character development, at the very least ,I expected her to do that armor making thing AFTER she reached wakanda or something, not before those wakandan found her, like holy shit man, it's seriously baffling how she can make arc reactor that's much more efficient with scraps she found in some household junkyard, even tony and yinsen had to use extremely rare part from stark's super high tech missile, which is not even strong enough to fly mark 1 for more than few minutes and she effortlessly created something strong enough to fly for a prolonged period of time and even be able to shoot repulsor rays at her first makeshift ironman suit project I'm actually fine with her as a diverse ironman-ish female protagonist with a simple fix of her having actual development and connection as to why she is eligible to be ironheart, like for example, tony saved her and her family in the past, she got motivated, developing some smaller gadgets first, slowly building up her repertoire until somehow she tried to help others using her gadgets, getting some connections from some people she saved and getting supports in building even more advance gadgets to the point Shuri somehow caught wind of her technological prowess, secretly helping her with various knowledges and parts, and then finally got into making her first flying suit and AI system, let's see.....a single movie about her before wakanda forever should at least be sufficient introduction instead of simply introducing her outta nowhere already advancing to repulsor beam and efficient flying suit techs TLDR, yes, I actually expected something a wee bit better and got surprised at how much lower the producer can stoop just to introduce ironheart

  • @irstat1c383
    @irstat1c383 Жыл бұрын

    The MCU after endgame is probably the best example of failing to heed the motto of “knowing when to quit while you’re ahead.” They should of let the franchise breath for a bit then started fresh after a break and more people would be invested and ready for a new direction, it also would have been financially sound in the long run instead of squeezing all they can out of the franchise now to the detriment of its long term legacy. I just don’t care about the universe after endgame; sadly Disney seems to be burning down all their other IP’s at the same time too.

  • @neilgodwin6531

    @neilgodwin6531

    8 ай бұрын

    Agreed, I expected a hiatus. I wanted it, both to give the fans a break after Endgame raised the game to 11, and to allow Marvel to rest, gather their thoughts and think carefully about the next phase. Instead they plowed on, like excited Minions screaming "multiverse!" Quantity over quality

  • @Nickpetronio

    @Nickpetronio

    5 ай бұрын

    Same. I didn’t even care much for spiderman far from home, even though they consider it part of the same phase as infinity war and endgame. You’d think after making billions they would have had the sense to sit and chill for a minute and plan out the next saga and phases with the same care as the infinity saga. Introduce spiderman fully as the new central character to the MCU. Let him stand on his own without moping and running to other heroes for validation and help fixing his problems. Finish acquiring the FF and X-Men and think about how to properly introduce them. I mean jeez, they could have just taken a year off, just one, to plan it all.

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 Жыл бұрын

    MCU Phase 4 is like taking some random side quests after completing the main campaign.

  • @retromeister3709

    @retromeister3709

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jet0802 Pointless side quests is more like it

  • @funkytownmonkeypimps6716

    @funkytownmonkeypimps6716

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but like fetch quests and trailing missions. Real bottom of the barrel stuff.

  • @pjbpiano

    @pjbpiano

    Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly how I felt.

  • @WH250398

    @WH250398

    Жыл бұрын

    Perfect analogy. The crappy sidestories written in five minutes. Exactly what it feels like.

  • @certifiedschizophrenic8598

    @certifiedschizophrenic8598

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao exactly 😂

  • @clanc433
    @clanc433 Жыл бұрын

    I think we'll all recognize the real talent here was Critical Drinker limiting himself to just five reasons.

  • @darthXreven

    @darthXreven

    Жыл бұрын

    why force yourself to do more when you can do 5 and get the point across?? sometimes 10 points is too much then you have vids that do 100 reasons why? and it's like jebus man! look at that 2 hours of someone listing off whatever it is..... seriously I agree, it's smart to limit to a smaller number cus sometimes you can do more with less

  • @Dragonage2ftw

    @Dragonage2ftw

    Жыл бұрын

    I think we've seen from Drinker's novels that he has no talent.

  • @Spinosaurus_Aegyptiacus

    @Spinosaurus_Aegyptiacus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dragonage2ftw i mean i guess

  • @jacobfaro9571

    @jacobfaro9571

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @jacobfaro9571

    @jacobfaro9571

    Жыл бұрын

    @flashbang.. thats a recipe for disaster

  • @craigfetchik7291
    @craigfetchik7291 Жыл бұрын

    Finally someone who tells it how it is… the heart in Marvel left when we lost Stan Lee

  • @friedaweyh1964

    @friedaweyh1964

    Жыл бұрын

    True. The lack of spirit truly shows. None of the shows or movies had a lasting impact. It was more like fanfiction. It was fun..... but nothing else

  • @markphillips9596

    @markphillips9596

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm so incredibly thankful that Stan passed before having to see any of this Phase 4 garbage! Nobody deserves to watch their life's work turned into nauseating swill!

  • @Jensen-C

    @Jensen-C

    7 ай бұрын

    He’s just a hater.

  • @theunknowncommenter725

    @theunknowncommenter725

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@Jensen-C he's not a hater. He had extremely valid reasons why Marvel has gone downhill since end game. Did you not watch the video?

  • @WiiMan25
    @WiiMan25 Жыл бұрын

    11:16 the whole time while watching WandaVision, I fully watched it with the mindset that Wanda was in fact the villain. This did not change once during my entire watch.

  • @nont18411

    @nont18411

    Жыл бұрын

    Based

  • @Wertzuio

    @Wertzuio

    Ай бұрын

    she was never supposed to be seen as a victim. at least i hope not

  • @Laughy-Flaaffy
    @Laughy-Flaaffy Жыл бұрын

    I think what killed phase 4 for me was how they took powerful characters and turned them into jokes constantly

  • @dakotadeal4963

    @dakotadeal4963

    Жыл бұрын

    They've completely ruined Thor

  • @arthurjunior7241

    @arthurjunior7241

    Жыл бұрын

    Hulk

  • @j_official4138

    @j_official4138

    Жыл бұрын

    thor, hulk, loki, bucky hell even hawkeye

  • @neitherrealms3862

    @neitherrealms3862

    Жыл бұрын

    Thor Love and Thunder isn't canon

  • @sternritter9788

    @sternritter9788

    Жыл бұрын

    and notice how they're all white men, with every single one of them being replaced by a 'superior' women (thor, hulk, loki, hawkeye, ironman, black panther and i'm sure there will be more)

  • @johnconstantine1604
    @johnconstantine1604 Жыл бұрын

    "Politics is the death of entertainment." - another wise quote from the Critical Drinker

  • @user-xx6vy9ri8p

    @user-xx6vy9ri8p

    Жыл бұрын

    You can build political plots in your established universe. But don't insert political messages from modern world into already existing story, especially if they don't fit.

  • @Mediados

    @Mediados

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a reason actors should stay away from politics. If you get mixed up in that stuff, you have no choice but to piss someone off.

  • @proxjayant

    @proxjayant

    Жыл бұрын

    there is no connection in marvel like before no shield no avengers coming together to fight one evil big guy just doing weird things in their own and world don't care now government don't give a shit about new powerful beings,no rules no limits infinite powers and plus msheu thing ruined mcu

  • @YTChannel420

    @YTChannel420

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mediados People only say celebrities shouldn't speak on politics when they are supporting someone or something that you dont.

  • @Atheismo9760

    @Atheismo9760

    Жыл бұрын

    KZread is deleting comment hard on this video.

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha01 Жыл бұрын

    "Take your time, do it right, respect the source material" = make billions... "Rush it" = destroy the franchise, lose billions...

  • @michaelhugo1455
    @michaelhugo1455 Жыл бұрын

    You are spot on with the characters being replaced by someone younger with the exact same skill set. I grew up watching iron man and captain America. My favorite ever. And for them to just ge replaced with someone is so cringe and hurts.

  • @dallasss5658

    @dallasss5658

    Жыл бұрын

    You're a grown man and a movie is hurting you...

  • @VeganGoat96

    @VeganGoat96

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dallasss5658 That's what happens when you put celebrities on a pedestal, lol. These guys need to stop worshipping everyone they see on screen. Accept people for who they are, not for who you think they are. There are actual problems in this world that need our attention yet a huge number of people have forgotten how to see the lines between entertainment and actual problems that need solutions asap!. The fact that they can say a movie 'hurt's' them, shows how emotionally invested they are in things that aren't real. No wonder people don't have a lot of depth to them these days.

  • @rls664

    @rls664

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VeganGoat96 Thousands of years of human culture, billions of people that have gotten invested in some form of entertainment, a psychological system that makes us connect with people we don't know or are made up, but apparently you know best huh

  • @BiggieTrismegistus

    @BiggieTrismegistus

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@VeganGoat96 Wow. Did you ever badly miss the point. (Hint: no one was talking about celebrities). Although I suppose it did allow you an excuse to vomit up your vapid platitudes so you probably think it was worth it to look stupid.

  • @LessPegasus

    @LessPegasus

    10 ай бұрын

    Not to mention that falcon is just a side kick, and the rest are female versions.

  • @BlahBlah-em2ed
    @BlahBlah-em2ed Жыл бұрын

    In the 90s, we assumed Demolition Man was an action movie. It’s sadly a documentary that was ahead of its time.

  • @johnglue1744

    @johnglue1744

    Жыл бұрын

    Now we just sit back and wait for Taco Bell to have a dress code and wait staff.

  • @gravityfalls1826

    @gravityfalls1826

    Жыл бұрын

    Thought u were talking about the Avenger for a second lol

  • @brittscott4673

    @brittscott4673

    Жыл бұрын

    Idiocracy is another movie that seems like it's going to come true.

  • @michaeldavid6832

    @michaeldavid6832

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brittscott4673 It's a work in progress.

  • @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire

    @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire

    Жыл бұрын

    Demolition Man was awesome, god I miss such movies

  • @justmoody5797
    @justmoody5797 Жыл бұрын

    The Idea that any 2 women in any show now have to be anything but friends is really crazy.

  • @sacha8uk

    @sacha8uk

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Wednesday and Enid's friendship was nice and believable, and it served the story. Just because those people are sex-crazed doesn't mean everyone outside of their bubble is.

  • @xminusone1

    @xminusone1

    Жыл бұрын

    Because these people see that stuff everywhere. They can't tolerate normal and well balanced friendship. They want everyone to be like them and it's exactly what they do in real life then get angry when they understand that everyone isn't like them.

  • @yasiem6245

    @yasiem6245

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sacha8uk facts. They're so disgustingly sex obsessed with pushing their trash onto others. Not to mention, that they push that onto children. Nasty behaviour.

  • @grantorino2325

    @grantorino2325

    Жыл бұрын

    *All love* is now sexual! Two men can no longer hug without appearing gay. Two women can no longer cuddle in bed without seeming Lesbian. Women whom I've known for *years* won't so much as let me hold their hands or kiss them on the cheek because "it makes them feel uncomfortable." But they'll quickly have sex with men whom they've just men at a night club. And something as ingenuous as *stroking a child's hair* now raises red flags. Mother of God!!!

  • @alfiecorder1922

    @alfiecorder1922

    Жыл бұрын

    Trying too push this Girl boss narrative

  • @assiaelmabrouki5552
    @assiaelmabrouki5552 Жыл бұрын

    A part of what killed it for me was definitely Marvel's new obsession with "strong female" leads. They way they characterise their heroines now just pisses me off: "I suffered more than man, so I'm more deserving of respect!! I'm always much smarter than anyone else in the room!! I use force if man don't listen to me!!" Just UGHHH... That doesn't make me wanna root for them, this makes me want to punch them to stop being so obnoxious

  • @nikob7428
    @nikob7428 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant analysis, Drinker. I have been a huge comics fan all my life and thought the first phases of the MCU were something special. Ever since, Disney’s incessant drumbeat about identity politics and shaping what they feel society should be, not to mention creative meandering, has just put me off. Haven’t seen a new Marvel property since last year now, I just don’t care anymore.

  • @admthrawnuru
    @admthrawnuru Жыл бұрын

    What's really frustrating about the Wakanda thing is that then hoarding resources and standing by as bad things happen was actually addressed in the original. It was a large part of Killmonger's motivation. So they had some self awareness originally, but now they've regressed.

  • @Enigma75614

    @Enigma75614

    Жыл бұрын

    This comment should be pinned.

  • @matane2465

    @matane2465

    Жыл бұрын

    What's really frustrating about the Wakanda thing is the writers don't seem to understand how isolationist cultures work. Never, throughout history has an isolationist culture become advanced. They tend to fall behind or regress. Just look at any mountain culture such as Appalachia or look at what happened to Japan during their isolationist period.

  • @paddipat

    @paddipat

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matane2465 good point. I must think of old china in 13th century, which was more advanced than western civilization but isolated itself because "it couldn't learn more from others". Well, science was born and the rest is history...

  • @cmasterson

    @cmasterson

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matane2465example is silk. They didn’t know how it was made until someone snuck in and took the caterpillars in a cane lol. After that China didn’t have a strangle hold on silk. Also after they regressed due to Poppy and Opium. It was legal and snuck in. The West was isolated until the americas was “found”. But I think it’s ok to have an isolated nation on screen that’s advanced but make the shit make sense lmao. Namor was under Lester forever and used whales and swimming as transport. Wakanda had ships and buses more advanced than any other nation and similar to gechiles Thanos had and in GOG. But I guess because they had spies in other countries they would learn and take that back and use thier tech to become advanced. The first movie did discuss spies in other countries. My thing is why not do the second movie and lean into what they was doing. They helped like 8 people in the first movie lmao 🤣

  • @wh4tevercomest0mind41

    @wh4tevercomest0mind41

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matane2465 wakanda isn’t a real society, it is not designed to operate as such. That being said there is leadway especially since wakanda is extremely powerful in the comics. The writers are simply trying to portay the nation of wakanda in a realistic way relative to its state in the comics.

  • @Kale13000
    @Kale13000 Жыл бұрын

    I like to try and pinpoint the exact moment a franchise falls apart. “They’ll never know what you sacrificed for them.” And there it is

  • @canebro1

    @canebro1

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree. There were a few hints in endgame, but that line was what broke my love of marvel.

  • @leadpaintchips9461

    @leadpaintchips9461

    Жыл бұрын

    It was just so...... bad. Like, really, _really_ bad. What's even worse is seeing people defend her actions for her _imaginary,_ _made_ _up_ children. They are no more a reality in that fiction then her in our reality.

  • @ericboucher799

    @ericboucher799

    Жыл бұрын

    For me it was the insanely cringy and cheesy moment in endgame where all the girl bosses United together.

  • @sloopydoopy7318

    @sloopydoopy7318

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ericboucher799with mostly borrowed powers like pepper pots is in rental yeah thats the same as iron man and ree ree with the glowing boxing gloves lol

  • @Kale13000

    @Kale13000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ericboucher799yeah that was pretty hilarious as well. They acted like “wow look at all these awesome female superheroes” while most of them I was struggling to remember what movie they were originally from. That scene was nothing but a wallpaper with absolutely nothing behind it

  • @Wolffman109
    @Wolffman109 Жыл бұрын

    8:57 To be honest, I'd have liked to see Bucky take up the shield, because there was a ton of evidence throughout his run that indicated that he would be the next Captain America, but that was unfortunately tossed aside for the sake of identity politics that felt hamfisted and unearned.

  • @Sillimant_
    @Sillimant_ Жыл бұрын

    I think part of the problem is the change in the films. It used to be the standalone films would fill you in on the character, and were entirely enjoyable on their own, with nods to other parts of the universe with everything coming together for the big flick Now it seems they're only interested in the group projects, neglecting the individual ones

  • @ShadowRulah

    @ShadowRulah

    9 ай бұрын

    It's weird they made this mistake because it's exactly how DC screwed up trying to ape their original run. You can't rush the big crossover.

  • @pcliftonjr
    @pcliftonjr Жыл бұрын

    "Soulless" is a great way to describe phase 4. This was an excellent breakdown.

  • @Intranetusa

    @Intranetusa

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sportsdude2828 It's not fair to compare Phase 3 with Phase 4. Phase 3 was the culmination of a decade+ long journey that took all the different characters and plot points of Phases 1-2 and combined them into a cohesive story. It is more fair to compare Phase 3 with Phase 1 - the start of a new series where you are being introduced to a bunch of random characters who don't have a common story yet.

  • @Intranetusa

    @Intranetusa

    Жыл бұрын

    ​ @sportsdude It's not fair to compare Phase 3 with Phase 4. Phase 3 was the culmination of a decade+ long journey that took all the different characters and plot points of Phases 1-2 and combined them into a cohesive story. It is more fair to compare Phase 3 with Phase 1 - the start of a new series where you are being introduced to a bunch of random characters who don't have a common story yet.

  • @tejaswin5404

    @tejaswin5404

    Жыл бұрын

    "Identity politics" is the one that turned me off & my family in not watching marvel projects anymore in theaters or on streaming platforms

  • @lefantomer

    @lefantomer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tejaswin5404 They're ruining Loki to please their Woke masters. That's all they had to do to lose this proudly het woman fan who doesn't care who that "offends". It was great while it lasted but Phase 4 is chucking it all into that place in space where unwanted things go.

  • @warofmankind

    @warofmankind

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean whiteless

  • @eddsters4081
    @eddsters4081 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know how Disney managed to make the MCU's world building feel so small in the recent years

  • @purefoldnz3070

    @purefoldnz3070

    Жыл бұрын

    small, boring and generic dont forget predictable.

  • @BowmansWorld

    @BowmansWorld

    Жыл бұрын

    Recent years? Ur acting it has been a long time phase 4 was only like a year and a half

  • @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka

    @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka

    Жыл бұрын

    @@purefoldnz3070 that's what also happened to Star Trek , Star Wars etc, well Prodigy and Lower Decks is ok but live action just terrible

  • @PhoenixLord777

    @PhoenixLord777

    Жыл бұрын

    So small and yet so empty at the same time.

  • @purefoldnz3070

    @purefoldnz3070

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka Well Andor was pretty great. It was something fresh and unique and you felt like there were actually stakes there no stakes in the MCU. There's very little consequence to violence (except for No Way Home).

  • @coreyphillips8352
    @coreyphillips8352 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly in the past i would always be excited for every marvel project to come out, but now these days i go into a marvel movie or show thinking "Please be good"

  • @galatea8554

    @galatea8554

    Жыл бұрын

    I used to love Marvel movies too, but let's be honest: even if you just wanna have a chill time, there are way better things to do than to watch dumb, preachy superhero shows that don't even respect their source material anymore. Marvel shows are only going to get worse with time, so I advise you to not waste any more hours of your life and give up on them now.

  • @coreyphillips8352

    @coreyphillips8352

    Жыл бұрын

    @@galatea8554 I will not give up on it, alot of the new stuff isnt even bad, its just average, she hulk was the worst mcu project ever. But the other stuff still isnt bad, yes it hasn't been as great as phase 1-3. i thought eternals was the worst because it introduced too many characters too quick and almost half died, but i didnt hate the movie. And i saw on twitter one of the comic creators for she hulk said the shehulk show greatly respected the source material, even if thats true, it still was bad. And what kinda fan would just give up on the entire franchise completely? if you dont wanna watch something new marvel makes, you dont have to watch it, and can just watch a youtube vid on it so see how it affects overall mcu. like just getting a little summary like that while saving you time of watching a whole show you'll dislike could be good if there is a particular project you do not wish to watch?

  • @Astro95Media
    @Astro95Media Жыл бұрын

    I honestly loved Shang-Chi. Characters were beautifully fleshed out and the story was rich in detail and heart. That said ... it didn't really feel like it was part of the MCU. Just a great stand-alone story.

  • @OnNicgramTheCriticalDrinker6

    @OnNicgramTheCriticalDrinker6

    Жыл бұрын

    Contact me for your Reward 🎁🎁👆👆👆..

  • @DokkanMaster

    @DokkanMaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely agree, I feel like it was an amazing movie but they really should have had a way to tie it to marvel more besides Shang chi’s dads organization

  • @Astro95Media

    @Astro95Media

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DokkanMaster Definitely agree with that part. That was a common issue throughout all of phase four, unfortunately. But the film itself was fantastic. I’d have seen it even if it weren’t an MCU movie.

  • @grnizz41

    @grnizz41

    Жыл бұрын

    But they weren't fleshed out that was one of the problems

  • @sonicinfinity1871

    @sonicinfinity1871

    Жыл бұрын

    Separate from the larger MCU? I consider that a plus at this point.

  • @rebillion9442
    @rebillion9442 Жыл бұрын

    Everyone's reception to phase 4 is just the parent telling their child "I'm not angry, son. I'm disappointed." And then we go off and frown in disappointment

  • @atomicdancer

    @atomicdancer

    Жыл бұрын

    Now go to your room, Marvel, and think about what you've done.

  • @barkydogable

    @barkydogable

    Жыл бұрын

    Daughter.

  • @trolleriffic

    @trolleriffic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@barkydogable Okay... "I'm not angry, son. I'm daughter." ...better?

  • @clippitpaperclip2338

    @clippitpaperclip2338

    Жыл бұрын

    :(

  • @subzfit
    @subzfit Жыл бұрын

    When I left the theater after watching Endgame in 2019, I remember telling myself that "it's probably gonna suck after this. This is the peak of the mountain" I'm disappointed that I was right P. S. RIP Jason David Frank

  • @4879daniel

    @4879daniel

    Жыл бұрын

    Well you can’t possibly have a bigger battle with more at stake. Then we’re supposed to forget all that and be grateful for much less at the same price.

  • @ruffr4bb1t

    @ruffr4bb1t

    Жыл бұрын

    They forgot to bring their snowboard for the ride down so now we’re hiking back with them

  • @rapidrotation

    @rapidrotation

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly Endgame wasn't even the peak. Infinity War was considerably better, and the seeds of idpol and other issues the Drinker mentioned in the video were already beginning to grow. Compare the two side-by-side and it becomes more and more apparent.

  • @liamcassidy5992

    @liamcassidy5992

    Жыл бұрын

    I knew it was the peak but I didn’t expect it to be a fucking cliff after that

  • @chriswhinery925

    @chriswhinery925

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't even think Endgame was the peak of the mountain. I think Infinity War was the peak of the mountain and it was all downhill from there. Infinity War was a much better movie than Endgame. Endgame wasn't terrible but it had a much less compelling version of the same villain, relied on Captain Marvel based deus ex machina not once but twice to bail out characters from situations she had no reason to even know were happening, contradicted its own time travel rules at the end with Captain America, and had one of the most cringey scenes in the MCU up to that point with the whole "girl power!" thing in the final battle. Sure, they've surpassed that level of cringe many times over since then, but at the time it stood out. For those reasons I think Infinity War was a better movie than Endgame and after IW is when things started going downhill. Captain Marvel was trash for a whole host of reasons we all know, Ant Man and the Wasp was one of the first MCU films to feature the current trend of making the female version of the male hero be better than him in every conceivable way. The cracks in this facade were showing before phase 4 even started.

  • @terrencesingleton8724
    @terrencesingleton8724 Жыл бұрын

    As a standalone origin story movie, I really enjoyed shang chi

  • @christiansestate

    @christiansestate

    Жыл бұрын

    Same that’s the only point I disagreed with him, Shang Chi was actually good. Only part that annoyed me was Shang Chi’s girlfriend (forgot her name lol) was kinda cringe at times 😂

  • @gevss
    @gevss Жыл бұрын

    i agree with most of this stuff, but i genuinely enjoyed loki. it was a perfect way to introduce kang imo and i loved it. season 2 comes out this year and im excited.

  • @bucketofsunshine6366

    @bucketofsunshine6366

    Жыл бұрын

    I too enjoyed Loki, but tbh, I'm pretty sure it's all because of Tom Hiddleston. Loki is the character we know and love because he has an incredible actor portraying him. It was hard to get behind all the decisions the writers and directors made, but the actor made them bearable. Add Owen Wilson as a great opposite to him, and it was a lot a fun despite its failings. But when you pull it apart, it really doesn't make all that much sense. The Loki who'd been humbled by the loss of his mother and the destruction of his homeland died. The Loki who came to the TVA was a much earlier version who would never have picked up the emotional baggage of his dead counterpart from a few holo vids. He would've kept up his lying, trickster ways without a thought to helping anyone but himself. And don’t get me started on the weird relationship between him and Sylvie.

  • @kingnathannn207

    @kingnathannn207

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bucketofsunshine6366 nah the loki show was fire asf

  • @jimmy22334

    @jimmy22334

    6 ай бұрын

    Don't worry, they'll replace Tom with a black transgender woman next season.

  • @XeniaChow
    @XeniaChow Жыл бұрын

    I have often considered phase 3 to be telling the Infinity Saga from the Avengers' point of view, where the belief in life is affirmed and that the universe deserves a sceond chance, while phase 4 better articulates Thanos' argument, showing how the continuous thriving of life would eventually lead to complete chaos and degeneracy and that it might have been better if things just ended a bit sooner XD

  • @Sidera17

    @Sidera17

    Жыл бұрын

    MCU Phase 4: "Thanos was right."

  • @proxjayant

    @proxjayant

    Жыл бұрын

    there is no connection in marvel like before no shield no avengers coming together to fight one evil big guy just doing weird things in their own and world don't care now government don't give a shit about new powerful beings,no rules no limits infinite powers and plus msheu thing ruined mcu

  • @langanhlakanipho

    @langanhlakanipho

    Жыл бұрын

    This is beautiful and powerful. Might have been better if I had stopped watching after end game.

  • @frankmueller2781

    @frankmueller2781

    Жыл бұрын

    @@langanhlakanipho I'm glad that I did stop after Endgame. The bits of stuff I've caught since then has either been instantly disappointing, (Loki) or outright stomach turning. (She Hulk) As far as I'm concerned, Marvel died with Tony Stark and Captain Rogers.

  • @mamamo96

    @mamamo96

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanos was right all along, half of the mofos needs to go 😭

  • @clarkesteinman5098
    @clarkesteinman5098 Жыл бұрын

    When my wife and I finally sat down to watch Black Widow, I had recently watched your video talking about how women will always beat men in many modern movies, and how showing a man beating a woman (evil or not) is almost impossible these days. With that in mind, we actually had several plot points revealed to us: like how when Black Widow was getting beaten by a masked individual, we quickly realized that HAD to be a woman under the mask; or when the big tough guy finally gets to show how big and tough he is, but finds himself fighting women…well…it was obvious what was going to happen. He didn’t get to beat a single one and was just a punching bag. So we tested your observation, and it was completely true.

  • @alupha_216

    @alupha_216

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn

  • @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381

    @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381

    Жыл бұрын

    Funfact: Only the unmasked Task Master was played by Olga Kurylenko, the action scenes/"stunts" were done by a man - it's almost like Darth Vader who was played by David Prowse, voiced by James Earl Jones (because Prowse sounded too English: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYV6ytFpj6qXhqw.html) and "faced" in his final scene in Return of the Jedi by Sebastian Shaw.

  • @bigcoffinhunter5500

    @bigcoffinhunter5500

    Жыл бұрын

    Before I started watching Critical Drinker I went and saw Birds Of Prey. I was absolutely blown away at how every single male, even the god damn egg sandwich guy, was a crude asshole or downright villian. It was so glaringly obvious but my friends just couldn’t see it. I’m glad you got experience black widow with someone like minded lol

  • @lukemimnagh2594

    @lukemimnagh2594

    Жыл бұрын

    I quite liked Black Widow; The early Phase 4 stuff is good, NWH and BW were genuinely good movies, but pretty much everything after these were shit. MOM is easily my least favourite movie, it’s full of cliches, convenient happenings, plot holes and more- I have went on very long rants about this shitty movie but I won’t here because I just can’t stand even thing about MOM anymore.

  • @robgreive3657

    @robgreive3657

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381 All true but don't forget Bob Anderson, who was in the Vader suit performing the fights and stunts in episodes V and VI.. 😉 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Anderson_(fencer)

  • @idunnomanigotnothin
    @idunnomanigotnothin9 ай бұрын

    I genuinely thought you said "nuts in a shoe" about Chadwick Boseman dying. But I'm four shots of Bulleit in. What a feature!

  • @user-tm1dc4sv7d
    @user-tm1dc4sv7d9 ай бұрын

    Is funny how Jennifer Lawrence runs her mouth about man and yet the entire reason why she got movie roles is because she was sleeping with the producer.

  • @dark_magician_sdy
    @dark_magician_sdy Жыл бұрын

    Phase 4 is like taking a sh!t, letting it dry and then calling it art.

  • @whenpigsfly8178

    @whenpigsfly8178

    Жыл бұрын

    It's more like diarrhoea, except that you're selling it to people under the pretense that it's gravy.

  • @shanehudson3995

    @shanehudson3995

    Жыл бұрын

    Poop art has been a thing in the last 20 years, so you are not far off.

  • @proxjayant

    @proxjayant

    Жыл бұрын

    there is no connection in marvel like before no shield no avengers coming together to fight one evil big guy just doing weird things in their own and world don't care now government don't give a shit about new powerful beings,no rules no limits infinite powers and plus msheu thing ruined mcu

  • @PineappleBaconPizza

    @PineappleBaconPizza

    Жыл бұрын

    True, I've had shits that are more artistic than 99% of phase 4

  • @andrewgreen7138

    @andrewgreen7138

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude this comment right here

  • @AFMR0420
    @AFMR0420 Жыл бұрын

    A correction, they did have an over arching theme to tie them together, and a villain to do the same; the message.

  • @Tyler_W

    @Tyler_W

    Жыл бұрын

    I think he means in-universe theme. The message was entirely meta and incidental to the thing itself.

  • @winfredwats8459

    @winfredwats8459

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tyler_W That's the joke

  • @guptayush179

    @guptayush179

    Жыл бұрын

    I just read 'A correction' as 'An erection'. 😅

  • @Shorkshire

    @Shorkshire

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tyler_W so dense.....

  • @protoform001kikira2

    @protoform001kikira2

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice 👍

  • @ShadwehUmbrea
    @ShadwehUmbrea Жыл бұрын

    Here's something that could have tied the 4th phase together: a consequence for meddling with time. (If Multiverse of Madness or any other movie covered this, I do apologize. I haven't been invested in Marvel movies for some time.) Be it through some sort of entity that regulates the timestream or some unforeseen anomaly like random events happening in their world, it could have been a way for them all to address individual issues that tie into something bigger down the line. But no, we got stuck with a line-up of characters that didn't necessarily shine.

  • @cosmic_tkb

    @cosmic_tkb

    Жыл бұрын

    Is this a troll or is it serious? Because that is basically the entire plot of the show Loki.

  • @ShadwehUmbrea

    @ShadwehUmbrea

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cosmic_tkb Unfortunately, I was being serious because I haven't watched the Loki series. Nice to know that they did address it. Did they at least do it well?

  • @cosmic_tkb

    @cosmic_tkb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShadwehUmbrea personally, I really liked Loki. It has some problems but overall it’s pretty good. Your comment is hilarious then because you basically described the series, almost exactly lol.

  • @kingnathannn207

    @kingnathannn207

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShadwehUmbrea loki and no way home are the best stuff in phase 4 in my opinion and they cover that topic amazingly

  • @kingnathannn207

    @kingnathannn207

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShadwehUmbrea we can just forget abt everything else

  • @svetlanaandrasova6086
    @svetlanaandrasova60868 ай бұрын

    Did you know that for Loki they hired writer who literally hates Loki and didnt even remember correctly the events of the first Thor movie? And director who before the show directed like 1 project? And as female lead,the female Loki, they hired actress who wasnt even a fan of Loki and didnt even remember the Thor movies properly when she got the job?

  • @legendaryhardbacon
    @legendaryhardbacon Жыл бұрын

    Number 5 is dead on. Literally, in Wanda Vision I didn't understand why everyone pretended the guy trying to stop Wanda from doing something so heinous was viewed as the villain. Like, wat

  • @theironrubberduck

    @theironrubberduck

    Жыл бұрын

    Who was even the villain I forgot

  • @JustapErson

    @JustapErson

    Жыл бұрын

    Then they had that weird scene of him trying to shoot the children literally to remind the audience that he was the villain instead of her. I liked the show but it's very weird indeed.

  • @StewartFletcher

    @StewartFletcher

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Justap Erson what's even weirder is that the children were fake, so he wasn't trying to kill kids, he was trying to stop super-powered projections of a madwoman

  • @McnugGetsomebicthes

    @McnugGetsomebicthes

    Жыл бұрын

    And there are literal brain dead Neanderthals who praised and loved Wanda for what she did. With the lame aas argument that people deal with depression in their own ways. Yea well, deal with it any way you want, but atleast have the descency of not harming others for your problems. How can something so important be overlooked like that?

  • @nont18411

    @nont18411

    Жыл бұрын

    Just look at the justification for Wanda’s actions Wanda enslaved and mass murdering people: “Wanda didn’t know what she’s doing even when she knew it, it was because Darkhold influenced her.” Wanda messed with Tony’s mind into creating Ultron and messed with Bruce’s mind into killing civilians: “Nah, Tony and Bruce are weak-willed pussies. If they are really that good person in the first place, they wouldn’t have their minds controlled easily.” Always a victim, never at fault for her own actions.

  • @michaelclark7456
    @michaelclark7456 Жыл бұрын

    My father used to always hate watching movies and being reminded of political issues and I always questioned why. I think he summed it up pretty well. "I watch movies to escape the world we live in, not be reminded of how bad it all really is. I'm already aware of these issues and I get they need addressing. That's why I watch the news. I don't watch movies to be reminded of it and if I did: I'd CHOOSE to watch those specific movies about the subject, like Schindlers List or something. I watch Alien or The Terminator to go on a visual adventure and forget the world for an hour or so. Not to be reminded that I'm a bad person with a sordid past." Why can't we have those adventures anymore? It seems everything has to be injected with a moral that doesn't match the story/adventure we're trying to escape to and instead of making it seem more real we're just diluting the plot. The cost of this is regressing away from the adventure/escape we all desire to experience.

  • @hiamaraldvaan7221

    @hiamaraldvaan7221

    Жыл бұрын

    Problem is movies not motivate anymore, not stimulate imagination and intelect. They are just a drug to give a modern consumer a high for 2 hours.

  • @am100

    @am100

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @ekathe85

    @ekathe85

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't even watch new movies unless I have VERY good reasons to believe they won't suck. Like Bob De Niro says in Ronin, "If there's doubt, there's no doubt". We already have a century of cinema at the tip of our fingers. I'd rather catch up with all the great movies I haven't yet watched, hell I'd rewatch Blade Runner for the 500th time before even giving Marvel a chance.

  • @nelisezpasce

    @nelisezpasce

    Жыл бұрын

    I choose to believe that mention of Schindler's List is low-key based

  • @Justmonika6969

    @Justmonika6969

    Жыл бұрын

    We can't have adventurous movies anymore because then we can't be preached to directly on how terrible we are by the elites.

  • @melwinthomas4382
    @melwinthomas438210 ай бұрын

    Amazing commentary as always!! I really wish you keep talking about these same issues on other popular 'used to be amazing' shows. Like B99 for example, the character 'Ross' was one of the vital and loveable one, but suddenly the writers shifted and completely ruined her character by making her fall in love with a guy, she wants to marry the guy, she breaks up with him right when he is trying to propose to her, suddenly comes out as bi, sees several women, leaves the agency....and so on i mean they could have delivered the same things very subtly but they ruined that character with absurdity. Also Keely from Ted Lasso in the latest season i mean wtffffffff!!!!

  • @BlastedRodent
    @BlastedRodent Жыл бұрын

    About point 4: that IS something that has happened time and time again in comics, so I can understand why they tried. The issue is that evenin the comics, it almost never sticks (unless the original character is someone obscure the audience doesn’t care about, like the original Captain Marvel). The replacement sticks around for a few years, and then the original inevitably returns. The only exceptions are for some reason DC characters - Green Lantern, Robin and the Flash - but those titles were established as not belonging to a single person decades ago, and crucially the replacements are usually not that different from the original. And even in those cases nostalgia often wins out and you end up with a whole corps of Green Lanterns all active at the same time.

  • @alexstrouse6333
    @alexstrouse6333 Жыл бұрын

    “Replacing your favorite superhero is simple and mundane as upgrading your phone to a newer model” that is very well said.

  • @emilyadams3228

    @emilyadams3228

    Жыл бұрын

    Just cross out "your favorite superhero" and write in "you", and you will see why they do this: that's what the globalists think of people.

  • @Ironcabbit

    @Ironcabbit

    9 ай бұрын

    From their Corporate point of view, anyway

  • @JoeSyxpack
    @JoeSyxpack Жыл бұрын

    Seems to me that phase 4 was a great opportunity for worldbuilding. You have a planet that is desperately trying to recover from the snap, and then the subsequent undoing of the snap. They kinda tried to do that in Falcon and Winter Soldier, but gave up after that. It just became multiverses and hidden worlds. It's like a kid pulling all their toys out in one room and then going into another room to play video games. "Hey, are you going to clean this mess up?" "No, that's boring. I'm doing this now."

  • @lennysmileyface

    @lennysmileyface

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah the snap would have left power vacuums all over the universe that could have been used to write any number of stories. I think that the infinity stones should be indestructible. Bring in Galactus or something. Now that half the universe is dead he's one hungry boi.

  • @Ghaztoir

    @Ghaztoir

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats when they catch hands

  • @shrexyboi1850

    @shrexyboi1850

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lennysmileyface good idea

  • @Laneous14

    @Laneous14

    Жыл бұрын

    Plus the infinite multiverse makes everything meaningless. They treated the Infinity Stones as a throwaway joke in Loki. Who cares that our heroes stopped Thanos in one world when there are infinite other worlds where they didnt?

  • @JoeSyxpack

    @JoeSyxpack

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Laneous14 That actually didn't make sense in Loki since the point was they were preventing multiverses from occurring and forcing only one timeline to exist. There should only be one set of Infinity Stones.

  • @richardbrocker
    @richardbrocker Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos and your takes on film and tv. I'd be curious to know what you think of the changes made to the Wilson Fisk character from the Netflix produced Daredevil series and the Disney produced Hawkeye series. Keep up the great work! Thanks!

  • @namarow
    @namarow Жыл бұрын

    I so look forward to your videos. The fact that you have a big audience gives me hope.

  • @TheSeraphimArtist
    @TheSeraphimArtist Жыл бұрын

    We could have gotten Gunn's original plan to flesh out the Cosmic MCU building up Galactus and the Silver Surfer which would have perfectly segued the Fantastic Four. Or conversely, we could have centered this phase through Doctor Strange, building up the supernatural side of the MCU with Mephisto as the main antagonist and even have that segue into using Blade and Ghost Rider. But instead we get the cabal of clowns.

  • @catalinamelo9932

    @catalinamelo9932

    Жыл бұрын

    Eh. With James Gunn involved, I would've totally watched that.

  • @JavaknightR1

    @JavaknightR1

    Жыл бұрын

    what could have been...

  • @MrSGL21

    @MrSGL21

    Жыл бұрын

    and now Gunn is gone to DC to try to unfuck it. Marvel is so multifaceted that they could have gone in any direction. super natural with moon knight, blade, werewolf by night, Mephisto, even rented out Morbius from sony would have been great given a story line and some decent production/direction. instead they just vomited garbage of the week oh look this week its the celistials, next week moon knight, next month is magic and multiverse, this summer is replace capt america, fall we are doing a terrible wokanda movie and lets jam a she hulk show in that hates the fandom. brilliant. and they wonder why their highest grossing film since endgame is wokeanda. its not helping that the rest of Disney is just as broke dick creativity wise as Marvel.

  • @wiseguy3675

    @wiseguy3675

    Жыл бұрын

    Now I'm really upset that we didn't get any of that.

  • @BWMagus

    @BWMagus

    Жыл бұрын

    I am actually surprised, considering the villains they've already used, that they didn't angle for some alliance of the Scarlet Witch and Gor and Namor and Galactus and so on--that'd be sort of obvious and dumb, to me, but would have been in line with simplistic Hollywood thinking.

  • @RanMouri82
    @RanMouri82 Жыл бұрын

    The one difference in Boseman's case is they did not need to get rid of the character, but they chose to do so, and played on the actors' real-life grief over Boseman's loss.

  • @GLJosh

    @GLJosh

    Жыл бұрын

    I liked the way Wakanda Forever used that to create some "real" moments of loss. We got the actually see people grieve and those scene did a solid job. But as others have mentioned Black Panther was "snapped" for 5 years. The easiest path (yes Shuri took up the mantle of BP in the comics) was to have M'Baku take the lead. He challenged BP and fought for the throne of Wakanda. M'Baku had already completed most of a hero's journey and showed real growth in WF (that speech about "They view him as a god, we can't kill him." was incredible). If Disney wants to continue a Wakanda franchise, M'Baku is the lead.

  • @StarViewer68

    @StarViewer68

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually liked Wakanda Forever, yet I can understand why so many people have negative views about this movies. I think that had WF been made into a 5-part series for Disney+, this could have then led to a different Black Panther sequel with Wakanda Forever being the bridge between the first BP movie and it’s sequel.

  • @AdderTude

    @AdderTude

    Жыл бұрын

    Peak emotional exploitation by Disney. Bob Chapek couldn't be fired quick enough but at the same time, it's not like Bob Iger will turn things around and get back to creatively refreshing ideas, either.

  • @TheMASTER4real

    @TheMASTER4real

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdderTude Bob Iger was the reason behind the decline of Disney content in general since 2005. Chapek has only been CEO for barely a year. These projects take at least 2-3 years of development before we hear about them. All the projects that have come out “under” Chapek were greenlit and developed under Iger’s management. Disney is going in the ground especially since Iger said they aren’t changing the direction they are heading in and they don’t feel they are being political at all.

  • @BWMagus

    @BWMagus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GLJosh Mostly, yes. But those scenes just didn't really fit in the movie. And yet, if you remove those scenes, you have a pretty shit movie. Which is rather the definition of an exploitation movie; if something is included as the hook to make an otherwise lackluster movie remotely interesting, it's exploiting that to save itself. Disney had to include that shit to avoid being another bomb.

  • @colorsrrealduh
    @colorsrrealduh Жыл бұрын

    One thing that bugs me is how it almost feels like Marvel are hiring female actors, writers and directors that have all been sold into Marvel’s idea of “feminism,” to the point that when the time comes they have to produce content, these seeds of “what feminism in media should be” are merely subconscious extensions of the men’s expectations that have been force-fed to them. The result is almost all of the female-starring movies come out poor quality, focusing on “empowering women” rather than just making a good story. It instills a mindset of “oh, look what happens when we put women in charge, they ruin the quality of the movies,” almost like Marvel is trying to discretely implant this idea of female incompetence into our heads without us even noticing it. The problem with this is, that Marvel hires women that they know will fuck up because Marvel expects them to, and they feed these women ideas to almost purposefully make their ideas of empowerment into soulless, pandering cash-grab content, rather than just allowing women to make their own non-pandering content without passively suggesting to them how they should produce their own movies

  • @mohammedtawhidhossain6441

    @mohammedtawhidhossain6441

    4 ай бұрын

    Such an underrated comment

  • @akira8393
    @akira8393 Жыл бұрын

    Stan lee got sick of the old media that was making political comics and entertainment with the message "hitler bad" . went out on his own to create a comic himself and thus lead to the massive juggernaut marvel is today. Now, history really repeats itself from the same thing but in the form of mainstream media with their message. The only thing that people need to do is literally do the same thing stan did then, make your own.

  • @SeriousJB
    @SeriousJB Жыл бұрын

    "Bland forgettable sludge" is the best way to describe Marvels current state

  • @ajivins1

    @ajivins1

    Жыл бұрын

    They made forgettable sludge? I don't recall...

  • @SeriousJB

    @SeriousJB

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ajivins1 at least 105 seem to do. Also it's called a matter of opinion. If you like garbage that's your choice

  • @sopcannon

    @sopcannon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ajivins1 new supervillain

  • @ajivins1

    @ajivins1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sopcannon Ah...

  • @lunarknight5994

    @lunarknight5994

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ajivins1 I get it

  • @PatrickBowser2
    @PatrickBowser2 Жыл бұрын

    I would never wish this torture on another person. but I truly think it would be interesting to do a supercut of every time someone in Phase 4 says "You're amazing." I feel like I'm stuck watching a self-help seminar in a hotel lobby

  • @bobbyd6680

    @bobbyd6680

    Жыл бұрын

    "amazing " should be canceled.

  • @MyBrainGlows

    @MyBrainGlows

    Жыл бұрын

    But, you are amazing!

  • @waynehewett4017

    @waynehewett4017

    Жыл бұрын

    It's almost like joining the tesla cult

  • @abasi-dominiquerawlings1470
    @abasi-dominiquerawlings147010 ай бұрын

    Damn, The Drinker has really gotten better. Leaned more into the intelligent dissection of media WITH comedic inserts that helps drive the point and break up the seriousness of the information being presented. I'm here for it

  • @larrystouder-studenmund6489
    @larrystouder-studenmund64899 ай бұрын

    I've gotta say, I don't always agree with everything that's said, but I appreciate that it gets addressed as part of a rational conversation with specific points, and not overgeneralized ranting with no real point. Kudos, sir, and thank you for being brave enough to talk about your opinions, and being reasonable enough to discuss them like an adult.

  • @ArgentWolf95
    @ArgentWolf95 Жыл бұрын

    "Somebody put me back in the fridge." Is how I feel, but the Drinker gives me hope!

  • @JStryker47

    @JStryker47

    Жыл бұрын

    I honestly wouldn't be surprised, if the movie They Live was happening in real life. Somebody get me a shotgun, a pair of sunglasses, and just for good measure, a pack of bubblegum.

  • @Grivehn

    @Grivehn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JStryker47 You can bet its real.

  • @infinitesimotel

    @infinitesimotel

    Жыл бұрын

    That's where all the beers are... Im not leaving.

  • @CharlieFoxtrot

    @CharlieFoxtrot

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JStryker47 But I'm all out of gum

  • @Satans_Legion_of_Evil

    @Satans_Legion_of_Evil

    Жыл бұрын

    Why did two people like that spam bot's reply!?

  • @TheMinskyTerrorist
    @TheMinskyTerrorist Жыл бұрын

    I think they said their plan was to give people a break and focus on smaller character-driven stories. The problem is that they can't make those. They're incapable.

  • @Wahba.

    @Wahba.

    Жыл бұрын

    Smaller stories lol, I forgot how many world ending scenarios we got in phase 4

  • @mindset220

    @mindset220

    Жыл бұрын

    The truth is, they had two options after endgame. Double down and start building up the next big villain right away, or what they chose to do instead. Kill off all the momentum and start from scratch campaigning entirely off of nostalgia. They chose wrong. Now that they're finally trying to build up the next villain, their fan base had diminished, and lost their momentum they worked so hard to get

  • @EvilDoresh

    @EvilDoresh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Wahba. Not to mention that every other movie seemed to involve multiversal threats.

  • @sathirakatugaha974

    @sathirakatugaha974

    Жыл бұрын

    Small character driven stories require smaller production teams who aren't as concerned with the bottom line and more concerned with the characters. Disney just sees small and character driven as buzz words for money

  • @snusemcgoose1001

    @snusemcgoose1001

    Жыл бұрын

    They can’t now because their gender ideologies literally are incapable of not getting in the way. Watch a review of or watch the new Willow tv show to see what I mean. Even a smaller story they literally can’t not do it.

  • @scottcoley1906
    @scottcoley19068 ай бұрын

    Dredd said what we all been wanting : " someone put me back in the fridge ". 😂😂😂😂

  • @Vikotnick
    @Vikotnick6 ай бұрын

    Here is an idea... Remember when Black Widow was chased by Hulk? They should make a whole Marvel movie about that (with different chars, of course) in the style of Alien 1. At least then we can see a little emotion from the actress, unlike in the last bunch of crap we are fed. There needs to be tension and life threatening problems, not this "strong woman" stuff we are being force fed.

  • @ianunderwood1678
    @ianunderwood1678 Жыл бұрын

    It's a shame that they seem so afraid to make new characters and instead just keep trying to carry on with the old ones. One of the MCU's greatest strengths was their ability to take minor characters from their IPs that general audiences hadn't heard of, and make us realize why they were so cool. When the MCU started, the main characters people knew about were the X-Men and Spiderman, it was pretty niche to know more than that.

  • @stevenscott2136

    @stevenscott2136

    Жыл бұрын

    And Hulk. Prior to the X-Men movies, they were almost unknown to non-comics-nerds. The average person on the street knew Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, and Hulk.

  • @Kewl1Dude

    @Kewl1Dude

    Жыл бұрын

    that was one of the nice things about the mcu coming from a huge dc fan. I grew up with dc, never cared for marvel. i watched all the shows (batman tas, JLU, etc.), bought the games, filled my room with dc junk, and even owned a few comics. but dc had been historically terrible with their live actions films. to the point where I was embarrassed even hinting to anyone i liked dc. mcu came along and although i originally despised it thinking i was at some kind of war with marvel, i was gradually getting more and more invested with marvel related stuff. these films were just too good to not be a part of. I even found myself looking at origins and was eventually investing more time into marvel interests than dc. idk how, but they somehow managed to crumble all that. they had everyones full attention and turned it to a "lets no longer give a shit" disaster. i wasnt expecting infinity war or end game quality, i dont think anyone was, but holy shit how they managed to ruin everything they built is beyond me. Its definitely weird looking back that they almost converted me into a marvel nut, just for me to no longer give a shit, which really sucks because I was looking forward to more marvel characters I had only heard about.

  • @AI-hl5xl

    @AI-hl5xl

    Жыл бұрын

    ikr!?!? there's hundreds of marvel's superpower user, the inhumans, x-men, which by itself can have a lot of groups, etc, heck, they can even use the disband of current avenger to make a plot for new avenger or next avenger, or even made a side story of savage avengers, or the runaways too which introducing... nvm, just searched about them, looks like there's a series of them already, anyway, we still have a lot of interesting heroes to be explored, even the street level duo luke cage and iron fist story sounds interesting for me

  • @devilishnessx459

    @devilishnessx459

    Жыл бұрын

    uhh doesnt shehulk/captain marvel count? and RiRi Williams?

  • @AI-hl5xl

    @AI-hl5xl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@devilishnessx459 well, yes, but i guess what ian means was to show a different character with different powers, schulk and riri is basically still iron man and hulk, thus, what crit drink said just like upgrading my phone, because how they written and introduced in the mcu not long after the endgame, i'm sure things would be different if they waited a few years and write them better

  • @poppypollen4362
    @poppypollen4362 Жыл бұрын

    Oh, hell, someone really wanted romance between Wednesday and Enid? Their friendship was one of the best parts of the show! We need more wholesome non-romantic relationships on screen!

  • @dinoblacklane1640

    @dinoblacklane1640

    Жыл бұрын

    One thing I've noticed in any sort of media these days, is that people aren't allowed to be friends anymore The only type of relationships allowed now are romantic or family

  • @tommymarco

    @tommymarco

    Жыл бұрын

    these woke ppl are crazy

  • @smasherthecannonball6240

    @smasherthecannonball6240

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tommymarco To put it mildly

  • @justincicconi759

    @justincicconi759

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I’m a gay guy, and I am glad I have non romantic guy friends, and portraying platonic relationships (heterosexual or homosexual) onscreen could help promote them in real life. In some ways, taking your cues from movies and such is silly, but movies/TV have always had an effect on our culture, though perhaps less now than in the past.

  • @superbrainz2357

    @superbrainz2357

    Жыл бұрын

    It would be a lot healthier of a message to state that you don't need to constantly be in a romantic relationship to be happy. Imo this is a pitfall that even good shows fall into always thinking that there has to a hamfisted romance rather than a natural friendship and that its the only way to be truly happy in life.

  • @theduke9292
    @theduke9292 Жыл бұрын

    I think one of the things that can’t be overstated is how phase 4 had no actual goal. It just kinda meandered around with no common link between projects. There was clearly no goal made when planning this phase and the entire franchise suffers. But hey I said I was bailing on the franchise after endgame cause I saw the writing on the wall and I’m all happy for that

  • @LessPegasus

    @LessPegasus

    10 ай бұрын

    Exactly. People didn't watch phase 1 as much. Only after civil war, it became good. Ever since Avengers, Thanos was teased and people felt like that's goings to end up somewhere. There's no such thing in phase 4 (only the he who remains who teased some threat in Loki) After antman 3, he doesn't feel much of a threat either. Also, most of the Avengers now are simply unlikeable.

  • @SMac-bd8vh
    @SMac-bd8vhАй бұрын

    Marvel:"We have the next 10 years of movies planned!" Us:"What's the plan" Marvel:"We don't know and that is the plan!"

  • @ilovedogs2642
    @ilovedogs2642 Жыл бұрын

    That scolding you gave the entire industry at the end was the most accurate and brutal I think I've ever heard in my life

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 Жыл бұрын

    Not saying I saw this coming, only that I had a gut feeling after Endgame that we had witnessed the end of the Golden Age for the entire Superhero Genre. But I never realized it would get this bad so fast.

  • @c.t.1893

    @c.t.1893

    Жыл бұрын

    One minute we were soaring high, the next we're falling into the heart of the sea. I didn't think it could fall apart this fast myself either honestly 😂

  • @piperian3962

    @piperian3962

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I was shocked the MCU was still a thing when Endgame happened

  • @dazza761

    @dazza761

    Жыл бұрын

    The peak of superheroes started and ended with iron-man

  • @alfredosaint-jean9660

    @alfredosaint-jean9660

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw this coming. Over saturation accelerated the process.

  • @YT1300MF

    @YT1300MF

    Жыл бұрын

    I had the same feeling, which is partly why I stopped watching at Endgame. The writing was already on the wall with Captain Marvel and then the ridiculous wahmen Avengers link up in the middle of the Endgame battle.

  • @clodolcmidnights837
    @clodolcmidnights8373 ай бұрын

    Guy who’s name I don’t remember: just wants to free a town, is somehow the bad guy Wanda: IS THE REASON THAT TOWN ISN’T ALREADY FREE, is somehow considered a hero.. at least, until the attempted child murder

  • @ruthlessrxc
    @ruthlessrxc Жыл бұрын

    Over the last 2-3 years I've gotten more joy from the The Drinker ripping on all these movies & shows than actually watching them. Tbh I started to like Marvel's f**k ups cuz it just means I'll just have more hilarious rants to listen to. Sincere thanks brother! Cheers 🍻

  • @muddyram
    @muddyram Жыл бұрын

    “Identity politics is the death of entertainment”. Very well put my friend. Entertainment is supposed to be a reprieve from daily life, not a deeper plunge into the same shut we’re bombarded with daily.

  • @thinkingboi9508

    @thinkingboi9508

    Жыл бұрын

    The problem is that those "politics" boil down to "Side A good, Side B bad" and that's propaganda (unless it is about morally wrong things like war) Politics in media should be something like "Is side A good? Is side B justifiable?" Because then it makes the viewer/reader/player question their own beliefs and can bring some sort of discussion around it, rewarding the player/reader/viewer's intelligence.

  • @jrtowne

    @jrtowne

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thinkingboi9508 very well said, thank you

  • @chiarruzini1191

    @chiarruzini1191

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@thinkingboi9508 That's what made Civil War so good. It gave you a dilemma. It invited the audience to form their own opinion, their own ideologies and their own justifications for those ideas. It wasn't like "iron man team is bad. Cap team is good". There was genuine conflict to which the audience could engage. But now the "moral conflicts" they could present aren't even conflicts anymore, they are presented as facts. "Men are bad. Women are good". That's it, the MCU states this as an unquestionable fact. There's no dilemma, no room for discussion.

  • @Cklert

    @Cklert

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thinkingboi9508 Correct, inserting politics isn't bad when it's subtle and makes the audience ask questions. Not beating you over the head with "the message." No one likes to get preached at. Heck, X-men was essentially a social commentary on Civil Rights. But Stan Lee and Jack Kirby didn't beat you over the head with "Look guys the mutants are marginalized." They were smarter than that, and they even showcased what happens when wanting fairness and equality turns into bitterness and hatred: Magneto.

  • @tonyromano6220

    @tonyromano6220

    Жыл бұрын

    IP is the death of everything it goes near.

  • @FritzTheCat1030
    @FritzTheCat1030 Жыл бұрын

    Every time I see a director with very little experience hired to direct a big tentpole film, the first thing that comes into my mind is..."The studio is hiring this person because they want a puppet who won't push back on whatever crap corporate tries to shovel into the film."

  • @TheTrueKazekage

    @TheTrueKazekage

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel you there...i noticed they started pulling a lot of writers with literally almost no real writing credits (see she-hulk and Dr. Strange 2) and giving them big tentpole movies to write for. They have been pulling from the rick and morty pool alot lately. While i like the show not all of the writers are capable outside of that room apparently and some are living off the fame of one literal episode (Ms. Gao). Shits crazy.

  • @mreshadow

    @mreshadow

    Жыл бұрын

    Astute

  • @Gamble661

    @Gamble661

    Жыл бұрын

    Or because they check off one or more boxes.

  • @gmualum08

    @gmualum08

    Жыл бұрын

    Bingo

  • @wrdfgrred112_wq

    @wrdfgrred112_wq

    Жыл бұрын

    That is correct.... Thank you for mentions it

  • @kingnathannn207
    @kingnathannn207 Жыл бұрын

    I think disney is honestly forgetting that this is all supposed to be for our entertainment and instead it feels like they’re just using these movies as a way to get a stupid political message across 😐

  • @warrenpowers108
    @warrenpowers108 Жыл бұрын

    The first half of Wandavision had me so excited for something new. If was so inventive and fresh - the first time they actually explored her real powers lol. And then it just became Avengers 14

  • @noleftturnunstoned

    @noleftturnunstoned

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. MCU is for children. Wandavision was a cool idea until they went full Marvel with a "mobile command center" and a bloated cast. sigh

  • @offsewingdragons9142

    @offsewingdragons9142

    Жыл бұрын

    The last three episodes were depressingly terrible. You couldn’t have wanda being confronted by her past WITHOUT THE WEIRD WITCHY SUBPLOT??? i mean CMON. It felt like an afterthought to even ME. And then there were two visions and sterotypical badass afro lady now has-superpowers? Ok sure why not-? They had something incredibly refreshing going and then what was that ENDING?!

  • @Aalok1991

    @Aalok1991

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! And that too seemed formulaic, like bait the fans and then kill the excitement

  • @carlosjavier771

    @carlosjavier771

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr. The finale is just so ass it shakes up the whole show.

  • @alexpowers5117

    @alexpowers5117

    Жыл бұрын

    What’s up warren powers

  • @KidFresh71
    @KidFresh71 Жыл бұрын

    I'm so appreciative of this channel. In a world gone mad, fellow "normies" can gather and delight in healthy doses of common sense.

  • @mb.2247

    @mb.2247

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol “normies”….you all are dorks

  • @reezlaw

    @reezlaw

    Жыл бұрын

    Except the real normies are those who ingest this content acritically like they have to

  • @starcrafter13terran
    @starcrafter13terran Жыл бұрын

    Nice outro! Couldn't have said it better myself!

  • @5wm562
    @5wm5629 ай бұрын

    CD you come up with better movie ideas than Hollywood without even trying Putting a convenience store worker in charge of a fortune 500 company (ala 'Trading Places') is actually a great summary for a summer rom-com.

  • @Nickwilde2295

    @Nickwilde2295

    9 ай бұрын

    Musics Are the only American thing left that's not woke

  • @sprinkle61
    @sprinkle61 Жыл бұрын

    Every phase doesn't need a large scale threat, but something needs to run through all the movies, and Multiverse was never going to be anything else but an excuse to swap out actors. No matter what threats the multiverse holds, they really don't show up until someone chooses to travel from universe to universe, and those threats are usually local to each show.

  • @kingsleywelch3360

    @kingsleywelch3360

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate the multiverse concept.

  • @aeonversestudios01

    @aeonversestudios01

    Жыл бұрын

    They managed to set up the Multiverse as scary and disastrous in Loki, and then completely abandoned it when it mattered most

  • @veramae4098

    @veramae4098

    Жыл бұрын

    Larry Niven did a great scifi short story about the multiverse, many decades ago. People are committing suicide at high rates. A police officer is told to find out why. The world has discovered the multiverse and how to easily travel there and back (although the "homing signal" starts to get a little "fuzzy" as time goes by). There's a great horrible ending scene. The officer looking at a window, thinking about everything he's learned, that so many of the suicides had expressed a "nothing matters" view. He pulls out his pistol and checks the load and checks the safety is on and (this goes on for about 8 lines, slightly differing sentences/ ending the story) and puts the gun to his head and pulls the trigger. This could have been a great philosophical question for Phase 4 to address.

  • @j_official4138

    @j_official4138

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aeonversestudios01 loki also kinda fucked up premise of the multiverse because now because of loki there is an infinite multiverse and infinite timelines and it gets confusing

  • @TheOnyxian
    @TheOnyxian Жыл бұрын

    That scene in Endgame where Cap wields Mjolnir is one of the greatest moments of my cinema going life. Hundreds of people collectively cheered at that single moment, myself included. That's what Marvel should be. Sadly, that's not what it is anymore.

  • @JonathanGaeta

    @JonathanGaeta

    Жыл бұрын

    I was even there for the premiere in my local theater and when that scene happened my theater clapped and cheered, and I was completely mind blown that was even gonna happen, although there was that little tease in Age of Ultron and it came full circle. You don’t get that anymore in Phase 4

  • @michaeldehart3253

    @michaeldehart3253

    Жыл бұрын

    The audience I was with did the exact same thing on opening night, however, I think they cheered even louder when Thanos punch Captain Marvel with the power stone.

  • @adam1984pl

    @adam1984pl

    Жыл бұрын

    That was stupid.Just like Leia flying in the space in Last jedi.

  • @fyoutube9410

    @fyoutube9410

    Жыл бұрын

    That scene where all the women appeared on the battle ground together was the greatest moment in any multiverse ever.

  • @fandomking8939

    @fandomking8939

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fyoutube9410 we get it, you're trying to get a rise out of us. Its honestly sad.

  • @dannypope1860
    @dannypope186010 ай бұрын

    Diversity hires and woke propaganda is what destroyed Marvel.

  • @SirMrZombie
    @SirMrZombie Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad Spider-Man was contained to it's own timeline. We saw how Tony's death had an effect on Peter, the audience was able to go on a nostalgia ride with Tobey and Andrew and the movie moved the overall MCU theme along. The rest of phase 4 was shit.

  • @vincentjames7210
    @vincentjames7210 Жыл бұрын

    The amount of Marvel fans still hoodwinked and bamboozled because it says "Marvel" on the cover is mindblowing.

  • @bighand1530

    @bighand1530

    Жыл бұрын

    Ikr?

  • @SubZero-hs9xc

    @SubZero-hs9xc

    Жыл бұрын

    Marvel stans are really sad now

  • @Mediados

    @Mediados

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not a Marvel problem, it's a human problem.

  • @Remi-Toruzen

    @Remi-Toruzen

    Жыл бұрын

    Sheeple will ALWAYS BE SHEEPLE. There’s a reason we have saying like Lemming train among the numerous others.

  • @chrystaltemple4818

    @chrystaltemple4818

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. My husband being one. He gets irritated when I don’t want to watch the latest Marvel pile or I criticize the one he cajoles me in to watching with him.

  • @nemo1716
    @nemo1716 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for never wasting our time, I value your opinion as a writer and being able to listen without self-promotion, upcoming video discussions, sponsorships, etc is quite a boon.

  • @waynehewett4017

    @waynehewett4017

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @seanodeli7031

    @seanodeli7031

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s too drunk to do ad reads and self promotion oh wait he promoted the duck out of his book

  • @nemo1716

    @nemo1716

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seanodeli7031 He promotes his books like twice a year 😂 I was referring to youtubers who feel the need to talk endlessly about their own channel and videos, and still the point you're trying to make is bad.

  • @Slashser
    @Slashser Жыл бұрын

    Not to be that guy but, wasn't the villain in Wandavision labeled a villain because his real purpose was to make Vision's body a weapon of mass destruction or something and he tried to kill Wanda so she couldn't stop that rather than to rescue the people she was controlling? At least that's what I got from it, but, I might be confusing things, that ending was a real mess...

  • @NetVerse.
    @NetVerse.11 ай бұрын

    Phase four just lacked the connections between the shows and the movies with each other besides spiderman, wanda, and doctor strange. Like the celestial literally coming from the earth itself isn't mentioned in any movie or show despite it being a planetary problem. Edit, kinda makes sense if their not connecting some, prob cuz they want to introduce new characters and want to develop and grow the characters. but should hav followed phase 1-3 add new characters but connect them together while adding character development in the process. Instead of adding new characters headed in opposite directions.

  • @syntaxusdogmata3333
    @syntaxusdogmata3333 Жыл бұрын

    A lot of us were just done with the MCU with the release of Endgame. My emotional investment reached its peak, it was well rewarded, and I was fine going on with the rest of my life without Marvel stringing me along. Phase 4 could have been masterfully implemented, and I was still done and ready for greener pastures.

  • @OsellaSquadraCorse

    @OsellaSquadraCorse

    Жыл бұрын

    Understandable - and I think Disney have no clue that is what happens. I mean, the general vibe of the staff within the company, the management; it's basically a cult. A cult for people who never grow tired, grow out of it, or grow up. They have no concept of relativity - i.e. those kids who loved their Marvel films? Well, they now have jobs, or final year exams, or kids, pay taxes, pay rent or mortgages - they aren't going ti be able to stick around a lot of the time - especially if they aren't wanted or valued by the company. Those who were watching in the older age ranges, those with settled lives and disposable income are often into 2 kids, mortgage, rent, new job, maybe a divorce, illness and infirmity of parents, and so on. They can't stay "Disney adults" - most of the Disney employees are, it seems, and they singularly fail to realise that most of the world just really isn't like that and have failed to plan accordingly. What they are producing isn't appealing (by viewer percentages) to the younger ages, and they lost and willingly dismissed the audiences they had. People aren't going to get a babysitter, or pay to drive/travel to watch, or skip a rent payment to buy tickets for; TV, cinema, parks and merchandise of such low quality.

  • @syntaxusdogmata3333

    @syntaxusdogmata3333

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OsellaSquadraCorse It's depressing to think about how much time has gone by, but you're absolutely right. That's the audience who's likely to be nostalgic over the MCU, and I don't think Disney realizes it.

  • @redditor7548

    @redditor7548

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. They needed to at least take a decade long break after Endgame. People are just burnt out on marvel crap now. They milked the cow dry

  • @xxxaragon

    @xxxaragon

    Жыл бұрын

    imo while the last "Spider-Man" was, to a huge degree, just a nostalgia wank, it still was a home run.

  • @rennmaxbeta

    @rennmaxbeta

    Жыл бұрын

    Endgame was the beginning of the decline in quality.

  • @DerDuke
    @DerDuke Жыл бұрын

    Me when I'm asked if I want to see a Phase 4 movie: "Nah, it'll be fine."

  • @proxjayant

    @proxjayant

    Жыл бұрын

    there is no connection in marvel like before no shield no avengers coming together to fight one evil big guy just doing weird things in their own and world don't care now government don't give a shit about new powerful beings,no rules no limits infinite powers and plus msheu thing ruined mcu

  • @ultron374
    @ultron374 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with all u said. That's why i stick to MCU phase 3 or watching more DC movies. Yes DC nowadays makes more sense and it's far better

  • @GeneralBakon
    @GeneralBakon2 ай бұрын

    They better not fuck up deadpool and wolverine

  • @jasondowns940
    @jasondowns940 Жыл бұрын

    I remember when we all were speculating who the big bad would be for phase 4…. How optimistic we all were.

  • @Lonovavir

    @Lonovavir

    Жыл бұрын

    Phase 4 is its own villain.

  • @wavion2

    @wavion2

    Жыл бұрын

    The Patriarchy.

  • @standardmax4373

    @standardmax4373

    Жыл бұрын

    It was Disney Marvel all along 😂

  • @eegernades

    @eegernades

    Жыл бұрын

    We did get the big bad tho. Jsut a glimpse tho.

  • @Narko_Marko

    @Narko_Marko

    Жыл бұрын

    its the damn patriarchy

  • @sixwashington4
    @sixwashington4 Жыл бұрын

    Exactly right, Drinker. I’m not a hard core Marvel fan but I grew-up reading the comics and watching the movies . Phase 4, has totally been a horrible disappointment. There were a few things good and a lot bad. The identity politics alone are enough to make you puke. Which, is made ten times worse when the actors start talking in interviews. I’ve lost count of the shows I skip because some actor starts spewing woke garbage about the production. It’s sad watching these types of people destroy beloved properties. Don’t pay to watch, don’t ignore when they insult our people and culture, and stand-up for what is right.

  • @HerculesBallsInc

    @HerculesBallsInc

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, from the actor interviews I'm surprised many of the shows are not many times worse. Both 'Andor' and 'House of the Dragon' were marketed in interviews as being explicitly anti-Trump, but people who watch them tell me that there isn't even a hint of that in either show.

  • @BigTorr704

    @BigTorr704

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HerculesBallsInc And that you can thank the directors for. But once the director is an activist before artist and heavily biased, their work turns to shit.

  • @beatzis1195

    @beatzis1195

    Жыл бұрын

    I encourage to disband ur disney+ membership

  • @LittleMopeHead

    @LittleMopeHead

    Жыл бұрын

    Same can be said with the Woke Rings of Power.

  • @beatzis1195

    @beatzis1195

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LittleMopeHead it's such a vile game. I honestly think many people have realized that woke is not the way to go considering that I see a lot of memes abt biden etc lately

  • @aaronlewis499
    @aaronlewis499 Жыл бұрын

    I really hope and pray that Disney pays attention to the fact that their stock has gone down 44 percent, and have lost over a hundred billion dollars in the past couple years, phase 5 and 6 will be what they should be

  • @RupertFoulmouth
    @RupertFoulmouth Жыл бұрын

    Excellent job as always

  • @wrongthinker843
    @wrongthinker843 Жыл бұрын

    There's really only two reasons. 1. Wokeness 2. Incompetence

  • @Persholm1

    @Persholm1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, but that'd make a very short and unessecary video... we all know that already. I think it's better to go into depth on why it's not only incompetent, and how wokeness ruins the movie with their personal political views, it also ruins established characters and the new characters they introduce when they inject their own beliefs into the characters.

  • @iironhide6209

    @iironhide6209

    Жыл бұрын

    Incompetence is too vague. The drinker goes into deeper details

  • @georgehouliaras7239

    @georgehouliaras7239

    Жыл бұрын

    The second reason is unnecessary as incompetence is part of wokeness anyway.

  • @cloudshines812

    @cloudshines812

    Жыл бұрын

    3. She-Hulk

  • @Vajelith

    @Vajelith

    Жыл бұрын

    nope, there's another big one, which many, including Drinker have pointed out: That the MCU focuses on quantity over quality

  • @beatgu
    @beatgu Жыл бұрын

    For a couple years now, I've been describing my relationship to the MCU as an abusive one. When we started out, everything was great! They were consistently doing good things and we were happy. Then there were a couple stumblings, but I was willing to forgive them because there was still more good than bad. Then they started to hurt me and I was having to make a proactive effort to forgive them because I still remembered how good they used to be. Nowadays, the MCU and I are undergoing trial separation, I check up on them every now and again but I don't see them in person.

  • @proxjayant

    @proxjayant

    Жыл бұрын

    there is no connection in marvel like before no shield no avengers coming together to fight one evil big guy just doing weird things in their own and world don't care now government don't give a shit about new powerful beings,no rules no limits infinite powers and plus msheu thing ruined mcu

  • @tadsgirl

    @tadsgirl

    Жыл бұрын

    Oooo, spot on!

  • @Chkprofilename

    @Chkprofilename

    Жыл бұрын

    Here is the full vid : when I met Critical drinker kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3eau8twZpaaorg.html

  • @bulleyes9059

    @bulleyes9059

    Жыл бұрын

    Is it just me or the first few year sucked hard too. I liked the captain america movies, the first iron man, but the rest was very mediocre. I actually liked the infinity war, ragnarok and guardians of the galaxy too, but the rest was very forgettable. I can't say that I am a big fan of phase 4 but I also can't say that any Marvel movies were great. They are entertaining and fun to watch, but none of them are great movies. I feel like the peoples saying they were great movies probably saw them as kids.The only marvel projects that were actually great in my opinion are Daredevil and the first season of Jessica Jones and both were not in the MCU.

  • @AndersonMallonyMALLONY-EricCF

    @AndersonMallonyMALLONY-EricCF

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bulleyes9059 Yeah didnt get this notion either. Thor 1, Thor 2, IM 2, IM 3, IHulk, CptMarvel, SpiderMan HC, Avengers 2, all mediocre movies. Even Doctor Strange missed huge opportunities with its titular character.

  • @justinmartin4662
    @justinmartin4662 Жыл бұрын

    Thanos wasn’t really part of the MCU until like halfway through, years after Iron Man and Thor both had several movies, even then, in guardians when Thanos was really named, talked about and seen, unless you read the comics or read spoilers you, like I, had no clue who he was.

  • @Mohnfisch
    @Mohnfisch Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Cheers.

  • @zunaslogic4128
    @zunaslogic4128 Жыл бұрын

    That Wednesday thing! I was telling my American friends that my great grandma spent her final ten years with her childhood friend. They cared about each other and even loved her but it was NOT romantic. The fact that one immediately said "ah of course. They French kissed like sisters" made me creep out cuz how can your mind jump to something sexual about THAT?

  • @KuroSlayerYT

    @KuroSlayerYT

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait what? Who's frenching?

  • @rachelclark6393

    @rachelclark6393

    Жыл бұрын

    And then people wonder why they don't have great friendships like their forefather and foremothers. Why nobody has a Frodo and Sam friendship in their life.

  • @jager3090

    @jager3090

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rachelclark6393 There are people who would fight you to prove there was something romantic between Sam and Frodo

  • @rachelclark6393

    @rachelclark6393

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jager3090 Oh, yes. And that s sort of my point. To that sort of person any friendship that crosses past superficiality can truly be platonic. A person can t have deep feelings for someone in their life, can't love anyone besides maybe direct blood relatives without it being a romantic, and probably sexual thing. And that s a little sad since humans are capable of such intense love for so many people, and none of it it necessarily romantic or sexual. I personally think Frodo and Sam's relationship being romantic frankly cheapens it. It makes it so much flatter and uninteresting. What makes it beautiful is that the loyalty, trust, and affection between them is pure, true friendship. And that it exists because they mutually chose to grow it and maintain it.

  • @ColoradoStreaming

    @ColoradoStreaming

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rachelclark6393 Frodo and Sam are literally modelled after WWI soldiers who have gone through hell in the trenches together and form a bond few civilians will ever understand.

  • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
    @JohnDoe-wq5eu Жыл бұрын

    What we’re seeing especially with Marvel is the pendulum effect happening in real time. The harder and more ridiculous they are with pushing “the message” the harder you’re seeing people push back, and just simply tune out, and give up on the MCU. It’s extremely gratifying to see people finally waking up. It took way too long, but the fact is happening makes me very happy..

  • @BWMagus

    @BWMagus

    Жыл бұрын

    To a degree. But I'm not sure if that would be true if all of these other problems weren't present. Well, you could argue it's impossible to make anything good and also woke, and I sympathize with that perspective, but replacing all the legacy characters and being woke might work if they had a good story to tell and directors who knew how to handle the size of the project while keeping their own egos in check.

  • @johnnyrockets6667

    @johnnyrockets6667

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I've seen myself doing this. I went into Dr. Strange 2 and Thor four hyped and left disappointed, so now I just skip marvel movies unless they seem really good. Like the only upcoming project I give a damn about is Guardians 3. I knew that Black Panther 2 would be preachy and shit, so I saved my money and was right. Watched one episode of She-Hulk and noped the fuck out of there.

  • @azargX

    @azargX

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BWMagus that would require story and character to be the focus of the films while having a next big threat undertone linking in the background. But instead they want to focus on "other things" and if they can show horn in a plot and some characters they'll worry about that later. Also the focus on "humour" where that word has lost all meaning and jokes landing is optional over simply making "jokes", they are there and constant because they are, not because certain characters are funny or unserious, it's just there, always, for everyone. It kills the tone if people can be being murdered in one scene and it's laughed off in the next. Levity is a great thing, it can relieve tension and show personality, but when it's ubiquitous it serves no purpose.

  • @pyropulseIXXI

    @pyropulseIXXI

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen a single phase 4 marvel movie. Before, I would always go to the theater to see a new marvel movie and that culminated with Infinity war and endgame

  • @azargX

    @azargX

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pyropulseIXXI it was a natural stopping point. It had all built up to this, heros were sacrificed, big bad was done. It was an ending. But even though they'd made money, lots of money, ridiculous money. It was ALL the money. So they got right back on the teets and started milking again. Plus they set up their streaming service and needed anchor content to make people pay for it otherwise it wouldn't have got off the floor...

  • @hunter4229
    @hunter4229 Жыл бұрын

    I would add that the new premise with the Multiverse gets rid of any and all tension when you know there's another version of that character somewhere. It's why they can just kill off prof X and Reed Richards in such a throw away manner because they can just get another one from a different universe should they need to. It's like playing a video game but with infinite health, literally no tension or stakes until maybe the very end when a multiverse level threat arrives. As it stands, every movie feels like filler or a spin-off rather than moving a greater story forward.

  • @TheMagicPat
    @TheMagicPat Жыл бұрын

    Big fan of your work. Have you done "Legion"? I really don't know how to feel about it. That's a good thing?

  • @sepixsound
    @sepixsound Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being so vocal about those issues. As a film lover it's just painful watching how Disney swallows everything, turning it into shit in the process.

  • @dizzlegrizzle1919

    @dizzlegrizzle1919

    Жыл бұрын

    as a film lover it is amazing how much shit you guys give disney for bad movies when all they did was pretty much greenlight projects. you hold no accountability to bad direction, writing or acting. you just blame disney... and forget about the tons of classics they have given, forget about the good marvel movies they made, and even good new stuff they had like mandalorian and Andor. you people are all the same. you blame them for everything and and give them credit for nothing even when in both cases it is not all on the company "disneys" fault

  • @janelleg597

    @janelleg597

    Жыл бұрын

    What about all those small studios selling their soul 😥

  • @SuperDoggy99
    @SuperDoggy99 Жыл бұрын

    This is a well done and comprehensive retrospective of phase four's failure. I will never forgive what they did to the Taskmaster, She-Hulk, or Moon Knight.

  • @stratocactus

    @stratocactus

    Жыл бұрын

    The fact that I absolutely forgot about Moon Knight says a lot. It's not even 1 year old and if you didn't mention it, I wouldn't have thought of this show ever again. Like many other movies/shows they've done recently. Bland generic CGI heavy shows with no substance.

  • @stormfall1130

    @stormfall1130

    Жыл бұрын

    @Julien at least moon knight was decent compared to other mcu shows this year.

  • @azargX

    @azargX

    Жыл бұрын

    I legit forgot taskmaster existed until the image flashed up in the video. I'd more or less forgotten Moon Knight too, though that wasn't as bad as most of the TV shows. The 23 films over 10 years Vs 15 products in 2 is the key argument for me though. They're trying to bleed it dry and make every available penny while it's hot and in doing so they are killing what could have been a pay day for years.

  • @noobthenewt1048

    @noobthenewt1048

    Жыл бұрын

    I have to agree except for MK, they didnt completely ruin his character unlike Taskmaster or She hulk

  • @weredevil1554

    @weredevil1554

    5 ай бұрын

    They also ruined the Wrecking Crew and the Abomination.

  • @allens4974
    @allens4974 Жыл бұрын

    Tony, Natasha, and Steve are the lucky ones. They will be remembered for the heroes they were and not as pawns in a game of virtue signalling and messaging.

  • @erik1836
    @erik18368 ай бұрын

    Really amazing review. Sure glad I didn't have to try to write it, but then, that's why we keep you around! Lol

  • @johntumahab323
    @johntumahab323 Жыл бұрын

    That comment on "Wednesday" is all too true. And it happens everywhere all the time. "If any two good looking girls spend any time together, then you MUST make them lesbians!" Cartoons, TV, movies...literally people demand that everywhere. And you know what? I'm sick of it. I'm going to start calling this "heterophobia".

  • @captchasuck

    @captchasuck

    Жыл бұрын

    Fucked up

  • @vinylwubs6987

    @vinylwubs6987

    Жыл бұрын

    im astounded by how much hetrophobia there is in the world. maybe we should protest and stuff, or be offended on the internet?

  • @somercet1

    @somercet1

    Жыл бұрын

    You'll need this, "oikophobia, n., an irrational fear or hatred of the familiar. The complement to xenophobia."

  • @EvilDoresh

    @EvilDoresh

    Жыл бұрын

    Shippers will try to ship _any_ two characters that aren't trying to kill each other every chance they get (though even _that_ might not stop some shippers).

  • @johntumahab323

    @johntumahab323

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EvilDoresh Indeed. Just look at Harry Potter and Final Fantasy VII...

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