BTW *hot* Rod PAF is the proper term… not sure how my editing skills got so lax… 😂

This was really cool and one of the best demos of the Hensons for the everyday dude not playing Polyphia!

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

Thanks. There is no way I want to try and get that particular tone, and I think most people don’t either. But the idea of have an acoustic style tone without a piezo system was interesting. Still a great sounding set, just wouldn’t be one that I personally would grab off the shelf not knowing anything about them!

@leadguitarmiked

2 ай бұрын

@@BaritoneGoatStudio exactly! I play in a tribute band so acoustic sounds definitely would be cool, but not at the expense of most of the other pickup voices sounding very similar. I’ll stick with my classics that are incredibly diverse and find an alternative for the couple acoustic songs we play.

Love that HR PAF .. thanks for the demo!

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

That is one of the best voices hands down!

The single coil sounded more piezo than the actual piezo pickup

I think innovation usually is kind of strange! Anyway, thanks for the review. I find that some of the Fishman Fluence pickups kind of blend together and sound very similar. Good sounding, but similar. I'm happy these are at least different.

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! I have watched a handful of your vids and you have a great way of explaining concepts that seem esoteric or intangible until someone puts the right words to them! I am glad Fishman is trying to pave the way with their tech, which is innovative in its own right, and with these pickups I do see some benefit in versatility. I didn’t highlight it in the video, but voice 2 on the neck with some distortion had an interesting texture and was unique for sure. I just went a little by the book with what I figured the purpose of each voicing might be!

@benburnett8109

2 ай бұрын

Glenn fricker says all pickups sound the same and only speakers change tone.

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

@@benburnett8109 well, he says that their influence on tone when being filtered through high amounts of gain is negligible. He tries lately to hammer home that a pickups clean tone will vary, but not likely enough to make a qualitative difference in the tone. He is by all accounts an engineer and knows that he can nullify most variability with an EQ. I do have a preference for certain clean tones over others. He doesn’t seem to think that matters. As a guitarist I do find that many humbuckers sound similar. Between brands, if they are the same magnet type and similar output the sound pretty much the same. The shift between an Alnico V and Alnico II to me is subtle, but a ceramic magnet does have a different response. I think that if certain frequencies are missing or are over emphasized upfront, my ability to play comfortably is influenced, even with gain. This is even in a case where the end product is sonically indistinguishable.

@benburnett8109

2 ай бұрын

@@BaritoneGoatStudio Are you Calling Glenn fricker a Liar? Glenn hates pickups and loves speakers......and you seem to be simping for him. SO what is it: Glenn is wrong or Glenn is right? Why would Glenn lie to over 500 thousand subscibers even if 70% of those subs are bought? Why would Glenn say something like this And Kyle Bull suckles at the tit of Glenn!!! Could Kyle be wrong? YOu are turning the guitar community on it's head............It seems like you are calling Glenn "I'm the king of clickbait" fRICKER a liar!!!!!

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

@@benburnett8109 I can’t speak to anyone’s intent, so not a liar… he is just not a guitarist more than an engineer.

I have to say as a metal player I don't want piezo sounds...just an active emg 81 or passive ceramic humbucker around 16-18k DC resistance...

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

I hear that. I do like some of the lower output passive stuff ~12-14k for low tunings sometimes.

@jackbootshamangaming4541

2 ай бұрын

I've learned that 12-14k is best honestly. I prefer it over my fishman's. I just went back to passives. ​@@BaritoneGoatStudio

@benburnett8109

2 ай бұрын

damn straight. Standard sounds are new sounds especially when an average player does average things with those basic tones.

What effect dsp or something are you using from 3:04 ? thx

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

That section I am using the Bogren Digital MLC Subzero 100 plug-in.

@benburnett8109

2 ай бұрын

@@BaritoneGoatStudio Glenn Fricker says that amps don't matter only speakers do. SO no matter what plugin you are using it is wrong. YOU need to check with Glenn about what speakers to use because only speakers change tone.

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

@@benburnett8109 the plug-in has a built in IR that uses IRDX to try and emulate the non linear phase of a real speaker. Bogren makes some of the best IRs available. Given Glenn’s enamor for the Tonex stuff, I think he considers the amp to influence some percentage of the tone. Even if he sees it as negligible in the grand scheme. I don’t quite take that view wholesale. He isn’t wrong though that the speaker and mic combo will be the final “EQ” for the tone as it is heard. Even clean tones benefit from a well voiced speaker.

Hmmm the piezo emulation voice just sounds like a guitar di track lol All for innovation, but some experiments are more about finding out what doesn’t work, I guess…

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

That actually is a pretty apt comparison. It does sound somewhat flat and un-dynamic in a way. Like the amp was removed. I know it is just an EQ applied and I imagine one might be able to better dial it in to sound more “acoustic”… Maybe it is meant be more of an assist toward getting that tone as opposed to a full on standalone thing? I do think I should have tried to capture the effect through one of my actual amps as it seemed to be more natural that way, but I also think abrupt tone shifts can trick us into hearing what we think we should. Often on playback I am less convinced about how drastic of an effect something has than when I am in the midst of playing.

@benburnett8109

2 ай бұрын

Glenn fricker says you are an idiot for believing "pickup" hype.

These sound odd, def would skip. Not a fan of his music, hes a great player but still. The hotrodded paf you can get with classics or many other ones.

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. The voice 2 on the neck is innovative for that tone. But I didn’t get anything real interesting from the voice 2 on the bridge. They definitely aren’t my particular cup of tea.

One half anime character…..😂

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

I mean… pretty much!!

Tim's style sounds like someone slowly dropping a drawer full of silverware down a staircase. I can't stand his music for more than 30 seconds.

@BaritoneGoatStudio

2 ай бұрын

I can actually hear that for some tracks. Their collab tracks with other vocalists on the last album tend to be ones I prefer. And I like Scott LePage’s guitar style a little more than Tim. Tim tends to draw inspiration from other mediums and just seems to stumble upon stuff that lines up with classical movements somehow. If you ever listened to Russian composers who use a lot of staccato, it kinda has those vibes.

Polyphia sounds like video game music... not catchy..you can't "hum it" just a bunch of flashy scales put together into a "song".

@caseywoods6647

2 ай бұрын

Very gay take

@finnmacdiarmid3250

2 ай бұрын

@@caseywoods6647He forgot to add their absolute shills of a fanbase… let it be, people don’t like them

@benburnett8109

2 ай бұрын

Glenn Fricker says the exact same thing. Glad to see you parrot the dumbest guy on the internet.

@user-xk9zw5hd4f

2 ай бұрын

I agree, their first album was pretty sick but everything since then is regurgitation of the same fiddle diddly annoying noise that makes me wanna hammer screwdrivers into my ears

@Durkhead

2 ай бұрын

I always thought it sounds like a person trying to tune their guitar using harmonics. They hit the 2 harmonics then they hit the chords to see if it's in tune. When they realize it's not In tune they get mad and hit the strings real hard in frustration

Modern cringe

@benburnett8109

2 ай бұрын

I agree. Glenn Fricker hates Polyphia and he hates pickups. Especially fishman pickups. Glenn is cringing at this video for sure.