What an interesting product and cool video! I really enjoy how you are expanding your channel. Great stuff as always, Dylan.

Pretty cool…I was impressed with the set I installed, but the ground directions and the tiny soldering surfaces were a concern… but just like your install it all worked out… I recently heard for the guy who now has the instrument I built and he loves it so much he sold his US made Fender Tele…..

I have these and love them! Replaced the V-mod fender pickups in my tele, and they are great. Love the built in boost. I wish I had seen your video first, because it definitely clarified things for me (an amateur).

@officialWWM

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a boost. It’s a complete change of voicing.

About 7 years ago I put a set of Fishman pickups in to a Squier Strat. It wasn't until I owned a Fender Strat did I appreciate how good these pickups are. I love them suffice to say, I play what is essentially, a partscaster guitar, as much as my Fender Strat.

Enjoyed and appreciate this video. I know you are tough on other pickups and I thought you were very fair with these guys and this pickup set and very objective. I was lucky and recently bought a used Fret-King tele guitar that has these installed from the factory and The more I play them the more impressed I am with the tones, pots, USB port etc. I would have no hesitation putting these in an American fender Tele.

Good information D. Thanx.

I don't mind the noise of single coil. I am getting ready to take the pick guard off my Tele. If I want something totally quiet, I play my Les Paul. Thank you for sharing. Really enjoy the D-score. Stay safe and be Blessed

I like these tones.

I'm kind of late to this party, but that was an awesome review.

Fantastic sounding pickups.

Great sound

You should also mention that leaving the cable plugged in will drain the battery, and to unplug it when not in use. Big fan of Greg and his signature Reverend with these pickups.

Hi @DylanTalksTone! thanks for the great video review! Do you know if you are able to add a 2nd (Neck/Mid) Telecaster Pickup for this set-up ? We would greatly appreciate any input you might have! Thank you! 🤗

@DylanTalksTone

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think So

Late to the party, but thanks for the video. Great quality and very informative. I’m considering these myself, but wanted to ask about output and tone. How hot would you guess the output to be or what would be a good comparison? Secondly, how are the tones? When I have watched the other demos available the white guard sounds a little thin. Just trying to stick my toe in the water before I take the plunge. Thanks!

The sound of the Fishman pickups is just outrageous good ! I played around with a new Epiphone Prophecy and the sound was truly next generation guitar sound ... This technology is going to revolution the industry.

Those sound amazing!!!!

Hi mate great video very useful!! I seem to be having problems with my set. Getting nothing from the bridge pickup but if I disconnect the ground wire from the bridge it works? What ya think?

Glad to hear that you liked these pickups. I’ve been rocking a set at work for a few years now and I am still impressed with the versatility that these pickups offer. My only gripe is the same one that you share... the Micro-USB port. Fortunately, the battery only needs to be charged every three months in my use-case, so I’m not terribly worried about the port failing.

@naazrael

2 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend these for hard rock?

@BigPhi84

2 жыл бұрын

@@naazrael Maybe for classic (70's) rock, but nothing harder/distorted than that. There's just not enough output coming from these pickups to get a good hard rock tone. I'm sorry if this response disappoints you.

@naazrael

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigPhi84 most of my guitars are only PAF level output so this was pretty helpful. I'm looking for something that will allow me to get classic Tele tone and also something more beefy. This may be nice. I also like this brand called Zex Coil and they have something that would be switchable as well. Thanks for the input!

@BigPhi84

2 жыл бұрын

@@naazrael I've always wanted to try Zex-Coils! As for the Fishman's, I don't know how close they actually get to the "traditional" Tele tone. I primarily got them because the venue I perform in super-noisy (built in the 1800's), and I can't stand 60-cycle hum coming through my in-ear monitors. The "mode" switch is also super-convenient when I need some extra beefiness in the tone.

@naazrael

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigPhi84 I have a set of their Strat pickups in a guitar, great HSH setup that also hits classic Strat N/M tones. Definitely give them a shot next time you have a build, underrated pickups. I haven't really liked much single coil sized humbuckers. Interesting, I thought demos sounded pretty legit for the Fishman, but maybe they still need that back plate for the bridge.

That thing sounds great 👍

The only concern I'd have is what would be the expected lifespan of the battery and can it be easily sourced and replaced if/when it fails. You wouldn't want to have to either send it to Fishman for replacement or buy another control assembly because the battery failed. Either of those two options would be a major downside. Something I have often wondered about is use of the PC style connectors and why they aren't more commonly employed for instrument components vs soldering. Fishman and EMG (perhaps others) use them. Obviously they work very acceptably, why do more component makers not take advantage of them? Many people are not good at soldering. The connector would drive the costs up slightly, but there's no reason that shouldn't be added to the final price tag. I can see Fender & Gibson not seeing an advantage, but in the case of a replacement setup like that shown today, it makes a lot of sense. Soldering grounds to pots can be a major PITA, while a standardized 3 way modular connector could facilitate faster pickup changes. I know it's not that likely to be of interest to a vast majority, but it's something to consider.

@Mark-vv1dy

2 жыл бұрын

All Fluence systems can be connected to a 9V battery, so you don't need to worry about the proprietary battery pack being unavailable or expensive in 10 years or whenever it fails. Wouldn't be as convenient as using the mini-USB to charge, but it's nice that you aren't stuck hoping Fishman is around and selling battery packs at a decent price a decade or two from now.

@BrunodeSouzaLino

Жыл бұрын

Judging by the looks, that looks like an ordinary li-on battery you can easily source off the internet.

when ya going to do the fishman p90 that would be cool

Hi, folks! I’ve been very lucky to find b-stock Fishman Fluence Greg Koch Gristle-Tone Signature Tele Set for half the price and also just ordered 40th anniversary tele from guitar Center for $299. How do you think will this tele be good enough platform for these pups?

I got a single fishman strat pickup for Christmas with electronics. I really don't have a home for it. I have one active guitar but it's 8 string and not getting routed. It seems like a waste to sell it for pennies on the dollar. I'm sure I will want a noiseless single tone sometime.. But times are tight so I'm not looking to buy more active pickups or another project guitar. Suggestions?

They could have put a small connector on the end of the pickup lead? Weird, like the “kit” is an assembly of the pickups and electronics without thinking about how they might fit together as a kit.

I wish they would sell the control plate separately so I could do an HH setup with Fluence Moderns in my Tele without carving a battery box into the body.

Dylan, question.. One of my favorite positions I cant live without on my tele, is 4 way switch that runs both pickups in series.. can you mod these to run in series, on a 4 way? or phase in/out switch, or a db boost? Are there any mods you could do with these? Or rock them stock only?

I have to admit, they sound really good

My question is why couldn't they use molex connectors for the pickups also instead of having to solder the wires? Things that make you go Hmmm I guess.

I like them, but it can be a hazzle when a pot or the tiny USB fails...tonally sonic has turned my CV 50 into a custom style beast👍

Not a pick up you can move around guitars either... I wonder why they didn't put a screw terminal in the pcb.

I would be interested purely out of interest in how they are built. I cant stand the most economic way the tele bridge pup is built, essentially paper mache connected by magnets. When EMG first came around it seemed they did something different, but under the hood they still utilize the same materials.

cool

Fender MIM is hard to beat. Put some fish fluid on it.

Agree re micro USB connector. Looks like a questionable design choice. The fact that it's PCB-mounted adds another weak point. Charging function means that It will go through many connect-disconnect cycles. At that rate micro USB usually lasts a couple of years at best. You could add a permanently-connected, very short micro-to-full size USB connector cable for charging, which will protect the micro USB. USB on the control plate would have been a better choice.

IMO my set of these sound better than 95% of the boutigue pickups I've had in dozens of teles I've built/bought over the last 30 years. "Vintage tone snobs" as Dylan calls them should prepare themselves: the logical extent of this technology will probably be some version of user-end customizable modeling/profiling, but I suspect that folks will still shell out hundreds for outdated gear even though, like the currnt version of high end modelers/profiles,it will nearly impossible to tell the difference in any real world scenario.

USB-C is definitely a better solution for charge connector on an item as big as a guitar. Micro USB is fine for small things like mobiles, headsets and the like - with a weight less than 250 grams. Anything more than 250 grams (8-9 oz) must be a USB-C or normal (legacy) DC-charge connector. I have no count for how many repairs I have done - even on the old type charge connectors. Every one forgets the charge connector now and then - and micro USB's just don't survive more than a few of these events before they "refuse" to connect properly to charge your guitar :o(

@grayaj23

3 жыл бұрын

IMO, micro usb is only suitable for disposable things. If the inside edge connector breaks or gets warped, it takes even better soldering skills to replace the port vs replacing the whole jack assembly. I've lost a couple of cellphones before their time because the micro-usb port broke.

@northof50now

3 жыл бұрын

I've had my set for 4 years. Not issues with the charging cable or jack. The battery is simply a cell phone battery [according to Fishman when I spoke with them]. There's no issue with the micro cable or connection. You only need to charge the thing once every 3-4 months - nothing like a mobile device.

@bopcph

3 жыл бұрын

@@northof50now Well, that seldom charging reduce the risk of wear and "accidents" a lot ;-)

Anything a 5/5?

Can I entered for the give away from canada ?

How much do you charge for a job like this?

You didn’t talk about the connections very much as to the ground and signal wires. I give this video a 2 out of 5. I installed these and found the top end frequencies increased. Great pickups with secondary voices and zero hum, which is worth the price. Compared to Fender Custom Shop pups they are way better.

@DylanTalksTone

3 жыл бұрын

Lol.... you don’t pay attention very well

@cottage_pie

2 жыл бұрын

@@DylanTalksTone a year old but no. You cut off the video and showed the pickups and bridge screwed in. The ground wire confuses me too.

They should’ve went solderless instead of that tiny piece to solder on

Way too hard on the installing grade as well as the quality grade. The wire is a bit short, but these were easier to install than the standard humbucker and single coils I've done. My set is 4+ years old. Never had an issue with the USB. It's simply a power cord. No data is passing through. Mine needs a charge once every 3-4 months - playing it daily. The battery will fail to hold a charge before the jack fails in my opinion. There's nothing you can do that's better for a cheap Tele. It replaces just about everything in question on a cheap guitar.

THANK YOU for holding them accountable for using micro-usb. Everything should be type C, including iphones.

@stnwrd

3 жыл бұрын

I second this statement. micro-usb are useless and tooooo fragile for consumer use.

@officialWWM

Жыл бұрын

Yep, it’s enough to put me off buying them. I’m trying to find out if the newer models have been upgraded.

2 of 5 on that install is nuts. So simple unless you grew up huffing paint. 😂

@DylanTalksTone

3 жыл бұрын

If you know how to solder .... sure.

Gristlelicious.

Micro usb are not unreliable! That’s why they’ve been around for a so long. And a single charge is worth 300 hours, so most folks aren’t going to use it often at all.

@DylanTalksTone

3 жыл бұрын

As a person who owned a company replacing faulty micro USB jacks by the hundreds I’ll tell you.... you are wrong. Lol interesting how modern devices no longer use them.

Wow... All that rigamarole and those touchy tech parts to come to the conclusion that "it sounds like a Tele". Everything is so overly complicated these days, it ain't funny. But that's just my 2 cents.

no way a battery in my tele.

@nazmoking3171

2 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way about active pickups and replacing batteries. But getting a 300 hour useful life out of every USB recharge pretty much eliminated any concerns I had. I have a set and love the pickups! Until I got this guitar I said I would never use active pickups or batteries again per previous 9v experiences.