Thanks so much for this video. I’m always trying to mention a “usable” paddler weight when reviewing kayaks, because the numbers used by the companies are absolute bull sh*t most of the time. Kudos Chad! 👏

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks brother and thanks for what you do to inform paddlers and anglers!

@eddielikesfishing

Жыл бұрын

Aliex Folgueira did a video on this topic as well. Chad Hoover was there when he did it. It was nice that Chad gave Aliex Folgueira and Dave from Action Water Sports (located in Central Florida) an honorable mention. Action Water Sports provided the kayaks and the scale for the weigh in.

@WScott-gd2mj

Жыл бұрын

Please tell that to Eddyline. They persist in showing undefined "weight capacity" on spec pages that is misleading and potentially unsafe. Ex: the new C10 is pitched with a "weight capacity" of 200, when unbeknownst to most buyers that includes the 40lbs of the boat's own weight.

@countryboy6845

Жыл бұрын

Hey Chad great video I have been looking into the Bonafide RS117 I seen your video on that and I have a question I’m 6’1 and 335 but when I fish out of a kayak i take 2 poles and just a couple of Plano boxes with about 30 lures so I wouldn’t be taking much would the Bonafide RS117 be ok thanks, Terry

As one of the guys Chad's talking about, it's important that we all know the real deal when it comes to what we can carry in these yaks. That said, I'm down to 307 and happy with my Old Town AP120 🙂

@Rbm87

Жыл бұрын

I’m looking into old town predator pdl I’m a pretty big guy. How stable are they?

@FishINwithGRAMPS

Жыл бұрын

@@Rbm87 VERY. I'm 5'7 and currently 307. I was over 330 when I as in the Sportsman 106 PDL and I fished out of it with no worries for over 2 years.

@Rbm87

Жыл бұрын

I’m also looking at a 106 as well I’m weighing about 315. Losing weight as well. What you think?

@FishINwithGRAMPS

Жыл бұрын

@@Rbm87 I loved the Sportsman PDL 106 for the last couple of years. I was around #330 at the time and it served me well. Like you, I'm working on dropping weight as well as I really love kayak fishing.

Yeah man, this is a problem, some have had very scary, life threatening experiences because of this. I wanna do like a kayak lab test thing but that day job of mine prevents me from doing it

Being a senior citizen and spending time shopping and looking at fishing kayaks the one weight that I do look for is the boat empty so that I can handle it. Thanks for the video you are on track!!

As a new kayak angler and being 6’5” and at 398lbs at my heaviest, carrying weight capacity of any kayak I was looking at was what was keeping me out of a kayak for a long time outside of price. Your idea would go a long way in helping us Big and Tall anglers find a safe and fun kayak!

@lexwaldez

Жыл бұрын

I'm looking at the Crescent Crew, the Crescent Shoalie, Vibe SeaGhost 130, and a NuCanoe or two. =) What's your short list big guy? I ask because I am also big guy. 6'6" and 330 atm. Lost 20 lbs! 30 more to go... so with Chad's 75% rule of thumb I'm really looking at the Crew and SeaGhost 130. Time to stop drinking beer and start eating rabbit food.

@jagermiker

Жыл бұрын

@@lexwaldez the NuCanoe Frontier and Unlimited have a "functional" self bailing weight capacity of 400lbs. 650lbs with the scuppers plugged. The hull and seat are already figured in.

NuCanoe kayaks have been rated to their "functional" limits. The weight of the hull and seat have already been factored in. Their weight capacities also state the difference between "self bailing" and with the scuppers plugged. Their Unlimited and Frontier 12 offer a self bailing capacity of 400lbs, 650lbs with the scuppers plugged.

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and that might be even worse. So, you can add that much weight, but it isn’t self bailing because you have in scupper plugs. But if you take on even a few gallons of water you can’t remove it because it’s past the self bailing limit and now the problem is compounded if your kayak is even close to the limit. I also spoke to the NuCanoe reps to determine how they actually determined that weight and there wasn’t a clear cut answer. They have one of the better limits with thought put into how to articulate it, but I still think there needs to be a standard and a more clear definition of what the weight capacity actually means.

Even if you are within the limit for weight, the load distribution plays a large role in handling as well. I have had issues not having my load balanced and I felt like I was trying to steer a battleship disguised as a kayak.

@michaelciceraro7707

Жыл бұрын

Been there brother. After a few trips on the water, figured it out. Unequal distribution can be a scary thing too.

Thanks for taking this on, Chad!! As you suggested, any other meaning of "capacity" besides the total weight that can be safely added to a boat is useless, irresponsible and even dangerous.

Thank you for bringing this to light, and working to create a standard in the industry to help us stay safe while on the water.

Great video ! This is a real problem and needs to be addressed and discussed for sure especially for anglers or kayak campers as we tend to bring the most gear. Thanks

Thank you. Good to know.

Thanks for the video Chad. You and Jeff Little are 2 of the best sharing good info besides just catching fish like most KZreadrs. All factors of safety are very important to have a safe and fun time

Great video, Chad. As a larger fella who is looking to get into the sport, this really helps me to better understand what I need to look for.

Good to know. Thanks

👏👏👏 Thanks for shedding some light on this issue!

Wow thanks Chad, this is absolutely helpful and should help fellow kayakers

Thank you for leading the way in creating a very much needed industry standard for kayak weight capacity.

Thanks Chad! Very important topic and surely a worthy cause to reach clear numbers for users

@ChadHooverFishing

11 ай бұрын

It was amazing how well received this was by the manufacturers and changes have already been made and are continuing to be made

Thank you for this video. You inspired me to get a kayak I’ve been watching you for over a year now. I’m a big guy and after a lot of research I finally went with the Old Town 120 Sportsman 500 lbs. capacity. I want to put an XI3 trolling motor on it . I won’t carry more than two rods and some tackle. My weight is about 280. I think I’ll be in good shape.

Truly appreciate you sharing this! If I had known this information prior to purchasing my current kayak I would have upgraded to a larger size boat to simply be safer on the water.

Right on Chad! Thank you for doing the good work 👍

Great video, very truthful. So, few people don't realize how little weight most kayaks are designed for.

Thank you for the video. I am still a newbie to kayak fishing and I did not know about all of the info.

Great point Chad... I always assumed the weight capacity meant useable capacity... glad you pointed this out and are doing something about it... thanks Wildman!

THANK YOU for this video. Thank you for your work to get this changed. Sadly manufacturers will rarely listen to the consumer. I've been screaming about this since I got burned when I purchased my Bonafide SS127. I had been needing a boat with a large capacity to haul saws and winches to clear trees from rivers. At the time, bonafide did not have the disclaimer on their website saying boat weight was subtracted from the capacity. I got the boat expecting to put 475 lbs into it. As I started loading the boat I got to about 375 lbs and noticed how the low in the water the boat was sitting. I tested it and determined that the boat was getting unstable and there is no way I could put more into it. It could have gotten very dangerous for me had I continued loading it to its stated capacity. A few months later, TG canoe and kayak put out a video showing the usable capacity to be below 375lbs. Had I known this at the time, I never would have purchased the boat. Its soured me on bonafide and their deceptive practices since. I wont support a manufacturer that does this. I think also its a way to "compete" with other manufacturers and boats. Their new rvr has a 330ish usable capacity. You have a larger paddler like myself and this leaves little room for gear. If they advertised that accurate usable capacity vs their listed capacity, most would scoff and run from it. Part of the problem is too many defend and support the nonsense of subtracting the boat weight from the capacity. Its absurd anyone would defend this LIEING misleading DANGEROUS practice. Most of the time its to defend a manufacturer they like. People need to stop with this and call them out regardless of what manufacturer it is. I LOVED your analogy from the RV showing the weight rating. Another one I use is pickups. If you have a pickup with a 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, or 1 ton capacity, you dont subtract the vehicle weight from that capacity. If thats the case, you wouldn't be able to haul anything. I'm thankful that most jacksons are spot on with their capacities or run on the low side. I also like that their capacity rating is an actual capacity, no subtracting the boat weight from it. They do this with their orion coolers, the number is the actual capacity unlike other cooler manufacturers. I've personally put 550lbs and more into my bigrig. My other jacksons appear to be spot on too. Chris funk the feral one has a video where he but 525lbs into a coosa X. This is 100lbs more than the capacity rating. Others have done checks and found their capacity ratings to be accurate or close. Its also absurd that so many subtract the hatches and fitting from the capacity and dont include it in the weight. Enough is enough. How many are going to paddle a boat without handles rails or a seat? Again this is deceptive practices that we should be screaming about to get ended. I also agree that manufacturers use these deceiving and misleading practices to compete with others. Bonafide is a prime examble of this as their larger boats dont have the usable capacity that most seek and need. Its sad and not ethical when manufacturers do this. I hope that we can get this fixed before a lawsuit is needed when someone dies.

We are a dealer for both Feelfree and NuCanoe. Your video motivated me to inquire of our manufacturers exactly how they rate the weight capacity of their kayaks. Although that may not be the case with every brand, I am pleased to report that both of these vendors weight capacity numbers reflect the true "persons and gear" capacity. Here are the responses I got from each of them. From Feelfree: Great question, I am happy to clarify here. Our final capacity numbers are determined through on-water testing. So if our capacity says 400 lbs, you can put up to 400 lbs in the boat and it will perform/float as intended. The hull weight is NOT part of the total capacity. Any other add-ons, such as a pedal drive, person, fishing gear, etc would be counted. From NuCanoe: We did see that video. Our weight ratings have never included the hull weight, just passenger and gear. We also list the capacity two ways: 1. Self-Bailing capacity - Max weight for using with the scuppers open/unplugged. 2. Max capacity - Max weight with all scuppers plugged. Thanks Chad for your informative and helpful videos! Can't wait to see what you have coming next.

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!!

@MysticalDragon73

Жыл бұрын

This is wonderful to know. Thank you for this. I wont get a bonafide or old town due to their misleading capacity ratings.

Nice setup. I saw what it looked like on the outside last month and wow you’ve made a ton of headway. Keep up the great work.

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@JohnLong02245

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadHooverFishing Sorry wrong video lmao. “red ain’t right” CH.

What the heck? Why would they include the weight of the kayak as part of the overall capacity figure? I was totally making that assumption and now I feel like I need to go diet! Is this going to be one of those situations where a liability suit needs to happen? I hope not. Thank you very much. I had no idea.

This is gold. You are exactly saying what I do feel or think of in a boat. Between you and Dan at Headwaters. I feel i will make the right purchase. For my specific expectations. True, honest no gimmick and real. Companies do have a responsibly offering products that may potentially be unsafe. And being misleading. Or negligent is not an excuse. Especially when peoples money and lives are on the line. When they thrusted the companys products with it. Once again. Great job. And thank you. Because you actually care.

Appreciate it bro. Good looking out. I’ve been missed reading that crap for years.

I would not have though of this if it wasn't from you explaining this. I've been looking to buy one an this is good info thank so much for your time making this video

Excellent video presentation Chad. I concur that the kayak industry needs to agree on a weight rating standard. My setup is weight safe; however, I had not included the kayak weight in the total calculation.

Thank you for shining light on this. And the problem with misleading customers isn't just isolated to kayaks. We, as consumers, are being bull#####ed, on a daily basis, by companies. You really have to do your homework, and you ideally shouldn't HAVE to, this much.

@cuivre2004

Жыл бұрын

You have engineers and scientists.....then you have the MARKETERS which totally screw things up to deceive the consumer. Unfortunately, the scientists and engineers often times lose the argument when their point of view is presented to the business and C-suite people.

@MysticalDragon73

Жыл бұрын

@@cuivre2004 naw plenty of engineers and their college educated bs that are to blame too. Its a company culture usually.

@MysticalDragon73

Жыл бұрын

even when doing your homework you can get burned. I had watched tons of videos and scoured the bonafide website before getting my SS127. Sadly bonafide didnt have the disclaimer that they do now. TG canoes video about usable capacity came out 4 months after I got mine. Had I known what I discovered later I never would have gotten it.

@cuivre2004

Жыл бұрын

@@MysticalDragon73 If so, they are doing that DESPITE their career and training. The marketers engage in it BECAUSE that is the currency of their career.

Fortunately I had caught the video that you guys did there at Action Watersports. As you mentioned several kayaks were within a pound or two of manufacturers weight but I distinctly remember that others weighted 30 40 pounds more than what the manufacturers had stated. It makes a difference. The most helpfulest content. Seems like you really care about your Knuckleheads. Be careful or you might ruin your bad reputation. LOL

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

Ha; thanks David.

Good info, been an issue for a while now. Glad some light is being shone on it.

Great Job Chad! Looking out for us!!!!

Great topic, great job Chad....

excellent point.

Thanks Chad, I’m pretty sure I’m over on my lure 11.5 and I really don’t have much in it. This needs to corrected ASAP. Thanks for heading this up

Really great info here.

This needed to be said.

Chad it’s a good topic and thanks for being the voice of anglers!!

Right on Chad. This issue needs to be fixed by the industry at large.

Totally agree with all of this. I’m only 170-180 and don’t take much out with me. So most every fishing kayak out there is more than enough. But it would be nice as a consumer to have a true apples to apples weight rating.

I like the idea of defining and reporting the usable weight capacity. I am definitely guilty of mathing that out wrong and spent quite a bit of time scouring the interwebs trying to figure that out. I kayak catfish and would find that information extremely helpful for planning trips as just about every piece of gear we carry is heavy.

More great info!

Been looking forward to this one! I'm all for giving some time to get people together, establishing a standard and making the changes needed to be transparent with customers. That said, I'm also hoping once enough time has passed we get some call outs for companies that either refused to abide by the standard or are finding ways to tweak the numbers in their favor. An accurate description of a products weight (plus/minus some variance) and it's usable capacity is honestly a pretty low bar and expected in pretty much every other vehicle/craft industry out there. If a companies product isn't matching up with competitors due to a reduced capacity, lying to customers isn't the answer. I'm looking forward to the kayak "space race" maximizing usable capacity while limiting hull weight without significantly impacting performance. There's tons of room for innovation out there (some of it pretty simple actually) that could drastically improve capacity in the short-term. Someone just has to decide to do it.

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

Trust me. That will be part of it. There will be a honeymoon period where it’s all lovey dovey and then there will be a day of reckoning.

@JamesJohnsonFishing

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadHooverFishing looking forward to it!

Great video, I am shopping for a fishing kayak and it honestly didn't occur to me that the weight capacity might need the kayak weight deducted. It makes sense but as you pointed out the useable cargo weight should be clear. Thanks appreciate your video.

@MysticalDragon73

Жыл бұрын

actually it doesnt make any sense at all. Do you buy a pickup with a half ton capacity and expect to subtract the vehicles weight from it? Surely you dont. Neither should we need to with kayaks.

This is a great topic. I do not fish with my Kayak. But do multie day camping trips. I just bought a new Kayak almost completly on its max weight capacity. An after my last 4 night paddle i was wondering about a lot of the issues that you have just brought up. So I would push these industry standerds to be across the entire spectrum of kayaks an not just fishing kayaks.

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but it’s easier to start in the area where it’s most often the problem and that will help distribute the benefit across the board. That being said, the ultimate goal is for it to be for all kayaks and small watercraft.

Great video, exactly the reason why I only carry the bare equipment I need to fish, until I am able to purchase a better kayak for my size

This is a great effort Chad. I don't remember getting a Coast Guard rating plaque with my kayak, but it should be pretty cut and dry what weight is usable and I don't get why it is so difficult for us kayakers to get quality information. That being said, one of my concerns is always the leeway left in verbiage for standards like this. I appreciate your point about how you don't care what weight it takes to sink your boat (nor do I, really) but leaving it to "the weight when performance is diminished" could leave a crack in the door for companies to define "diminished" how they choose. There is diminished performance, performance that is diminished so much that it becomes a safety issue (depending on water conditions) and "your kayak is at the bottom of the lake." It would be nice to have all three, but I believe the "self bailing weight" or something similar should be the bare minimum, because that one can't be hidden by subjective definitions of performance.

Thanks Chad, I bought a kayak with a 500 lb capacity planing on going camping and fishing. This was something that needed to be brought out in to the open. Like others, I thought the weight capacity was what the kayak would carry. Thank I will take the weight of the kayak into calculation to be on the safe side. Thanks again.

@MysticalDragon73

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the manufacturer. I'll never support a place where you have to take the boats weight out of the capacity rating. Jacksons tend to be spot on with their ratings. Ive frequently put 550lbs or more into my big rig.

Great info

Thank you Chad ! ✌🏻

I’m glad you made this video , tired of hearing people talk down on brands . Almost everything you should take company’s numbers with grain of salt . A engineer put it on paper and they think that’s the gospel . Great video , making companies change their ways will be good . Thanks Chad

@MysticalDragon73

Жыл бұрын

I will talk brands down where its warranted. ESPECIALLY ones like bonafide who use deceptive practices that endanger paddlers jsut to make a buck. I tend to prefer Jacksons but if I see something I dont like I will call them out too.

Heck yeah! I was looking at a Vibe, emailed customer service and an executive (the owner?) got back to me and explained very clearly how capacity was determined. Vibe was great about getting back to me and explaining everything. Not every company is as good about it, but it would be nice if the industry had an easy to understand standard. Thanks for the 75% capacity suggestion. Crescent Crew capacity is 600 lbs... less say 80 lbs for boat. 520 * .75 = 390 so me, 50 lbs of gear and 10 lbs for beer, I mean spring water with a bit for safety. Thanks for this. I really appreciate it. Now if the manufacturers fudge the boat weights then I'm still screwed...

It's also a problem when manufacturers weigh the boat plastic only before adding the seat, hatches, and track. Weight capacity has become a bigger problem both as anglers have gotten heavier, and as more and more guys are tricking out plastic boats like a bass rig or jon boat with motors, electronics, and a bait box for every situation. Simplicity used to keep almost everyone below the weight capacity.

@MysticalDragon73

Жыл бұрын

Its absurd when they do this. all those things are part of the boat weight. do tell me when you arent paddling a boat with a seat in it.

💯 on you on usable capacity

Thanks for the video. I have the Feel Free lure 11.5. After watching your video got me to thinking so I Emailed Feel Free they say there capacity weight is is the weight you can put in the kayak this is the way Feel Free does it. Thank you for the heads up on this kind of stuff I am new at kayaking so I need all the help I can get. Thanks again

Thanks Chad. I have been working on my SS107 by adding a trolling motor. I weigh 255 and my kayak w/ seat is 85 lbs. So I'm already at 340 before any gear or trolling motor. So you're saying that I only have 85 lbs left if my max weight is 425 lbs. That's a little discouraging. I didn't know that the weight of the kayak goes toward the max weight. I'm trying to wrap my head around this. I thank you for educating me to this. I have a lot to think about tiring to put equipment on the kayak.

This isn’t a problem limited to fishing kayaks. I believe there’s a lot of miss information on sit inside kayaks as well. Both in their actual weight and their useable carrying capacity.

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

True

Great video, I wasn't sure if how the weight limit worked but being a 250lb man I knew the Walmart kayaks wouldn't work. Looking at moken 10v2 an big fish 108. Stay safe an tight lines.

@wvrapp

Жыл бұрын

I have the Moken10 and BigFish 103... they are great platforms.

That was nice that you mentioned Aliex Folgueira and Action Water Sports. I watched Aliex's video on kayak weights as well. Both videos are informative. The fact that some kayak companies play with weights is absolutely 💯% a safety issue. I knew about subtracting the weight of the kayak from the weight of the listed capacity to get the usable weight. However, if the actual weight of the vessel is off, then your usable capacity is off as well, and that is not good. Accuracy in vessel weight and capacity recording should be of paramount importance. After all, at the end of the day, we all want to go home, and our loved ones want us to come home alive.

Thanks, Chad. I'm currently having this problem myself. I have a wilderness systems Radar 135 and I think I'm at the Weight limit. I'm currently looking for a kayak that will better suit me

When looking to buy a kayak you fist need to know the total weight you plan to load it with. Second thing you need to know is how to figure RUNNING weight. To figure the running weight of a kayak is to subtract 30% off of the manufacture's stated weight capacity or take the weight capacity on the kayak you are looking at take the stated weight capacity × .7 to get the running weight capacity

this is absolutely a big deal. ran into this with a tandem I bought this year. I'm buying a Crescent crew for my wife and I now. I hope I don't run into the same issue. combined weight between both of us is probably 370. now I'm nervous.

Excellent video Chad. Creating standards is a really good thing as the explosion of the sport continues to happen.

Why not standardize the weight capacity by the displacement to float the boat -20%. Each boat based on the materials used should have a maximum capacity of displacement lbs. Roland Martin did a video about how he rigged his canoe and added boat bumpers to the sides of it to offer some stability, but also to add floatation , so it the canoe flips it won’t sink. Getting some of the more influential people like him to chime in would be really great. calculating buoyancy is based on the formula of B = ρ × V × g, - B (buoyant force) = p (density of fluid) x Volume (volume of the boat displacing the water) x force of gravity. The buoyancy force is usually calculated in Newtons

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

Trust me. I know what they should do and I think most of them do as well. But it’s one of those things that tied to marketing so it’s hard to get the industry to change

I have a Predator 13. The weight of the kayak is listed at 86 pounds. I recently added a trolling motor- a Newport Vessels kayak motor. I’m 250 pounds. I’ve done pretty good so far but any tests you hold on that kayak would be great. Thanks for this video.

This brings to mind two other related areas to investigate - At what percent of total capacity does performance really begin to suffer and should we consider the environmental differences between kayaking on, say, a calm lake vs ocean surf.

Nice video! Now I’m worried about going out with all my gear on a 250lbs capacity kayak😂

@capefearcapt4679

Жыл бұрын

You should be.

Thanks for making the video and your efforts. Honestly it’s intentionally misleading what they say. Weight capacity is how much weight you can put in the boat (regardless of boat weight). Water displacement is the actual term they should be using for weight capacity + boat weight. But why even make people do the math and use the wrong term. It’s just messed up, I darn near sank my yak before I learned how they misrepresented capacity.

This is the formula or method the US Coast Guard uses and/or recommends for figuring out weight capacity. “If your boat does not have a capacity plate, the U.S. Coast Guard recommends the following formula for calculating maximum occupancy: multiply the boat's length times its width and divide by 15.” For instance a Hobie Pro Angler 14 with capacity would be: Length: 13’8” x Width: 38”= 6232 6232 / 15 = 415.47 So a Hobie PA 14 would have a capacity of 415 pounds.

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good rule of thumb, but it’s not 100% since that based on a displacement hull that isn’t a self bailing set up with scuppers. This is why I’m trying to get this standard established.

@kayakflyfishingschool

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadHooverFishing understood, but it can give you a a good base formula to get ideas from. Their concern is also to the point taking on water, with the self bailing of sot, you can exchange that “15” with a number like 12.

@kayakflyfishingschool

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadHooverFishing since there scupper plugs do not allow for self-bailing, the formula or criteria would be a bit different as well, at least one would be lead to believe such

@kayakflyfishingschool

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadHooverFishing maybe just go old tech: use weights distributed throughout the kayak, when water can no longer self bail, that’s your safe/optimal load capacity, total capacity is when water comes over the deck/bow/stern and/or when cockpit is full of water. Harder than figuring out how to measure across the manufactures is hire to enforce it, no governing body currently as you eluded to in the video, so that may need to be the first step, altough not everyone will want to be governed. Have you contacted the Coast Guard to see if their auxiliary watercraft division can assist?

@razdog76

Жыл бұрын

FYI, a Lite Tackle would be at about 335.

This is awesome this is something I've wondered about for years. I have a guide 119 Old Town there's a new rating for the same boat I was wondering if it was the seat or usable capacity

I’d love to see a video on how weight effects kayak performance. I’m 5’9” 145lb rock climber/ kayaker (small but silly strong) with me paddling it glides through the water easily. My neighbor is 5’10 268lbs, my boat pushes water like a barge with him in it. Same boat, very different experience.

@JamesJohnsonFishing

Жыл бұрын

Here's a good quick video that shows just what you're describing: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYJ816Wrns6elso.html

@ChrisFunktheFeralOne

Жыл бұрын

here is one i shot several years ago that shows that sir, hope it helps. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYJ816Wrns6elso.html

Gday Chad, this is another very interesting topic! I have no idea how much all the gear I put on my kayak weighs (I'm sure, I'm not the only one). I know how much I weigh, but that's it. I don't run a motor but have a good share of accessories, tackle etc. I'm sure I'm under the limit but by how much I don't know. What we be a good way to weigh it all? Also, I've always wondered if manufacturers take this into consideration with warranty claims? If so, then that's another good reason for both manufacturers & consumers to have an accurate weight capacity.

I have a Jackson Kilroy and it doesn't see to struggle with a massive load but a lot of no name ten footers seem to be overrated., I always tell bigger people to go for a longer boat.

It would be good to know the usable weight capacity. More kayacks are getting fish finders and the added weight of those and the batteries take away usable space.

I feel confident in my NuCanoe frontier 12’s 600 pound capacity.

@ChadHooverFishing

Жыл бұрын

What are you confident in? Can it float 600 pounds? Does it included the weight of the boat? Will it perform well or just not sink? That’s the discussion I’m trying to start. If you can answer that question definitively you are doing better than most. NuCanoe didn’t really answer the question definitively. LOL

Need to start a testing standard similar to Snell certifacation for motorcycle hemets its a private testing and they are 100x better than a basic DOT cert

Being a senior, big angler, trying to determine the weight capacity issue has always been a hassle ever since I started fishing from a kayak several years ago. For the last five years I have been using a FF Lure 11.5 and even though I am a minimalist re:gear, I had a feeling I was well over the weight limit; apparently so. So let me see if I understand you for manufacturer listed weight capacities that include the kayak weight. If a person is 300 lbs, carrying a 100 lbs of gear (motor, battery, etc) and the kayak actually weighs 100 lbs that's 500 lbs of total weight towards the rating. When you invoke the 75% rule the weight capacity should be on the order of 667 lbs (yup I did some math LOL)? And if you're weight is at 350, the capacity would have to be upwards of 725 lbs?

Thanks Chad. There is no reason to not have a standard by which all kayak manufactures can abide by.

Holy cow! I had no clue. I’m 290lbs. My kayak has a capacity of 450lbs and the kayak weighs 75 lbs. I thought I had a 160lb buffer for gear but I really only have 85 lbs. 😳. This explains why I always felt I rode lower in the water.

@MysticalDragon73

Жыл бұрын

depends on the manufacturer. There are many like Jackson that have accurate weight capacities

Thanks 👍🏼…I’ve seen videos adding noodles to hull would that improve wt cap?

Chad I was looking at Old Town kayaks on their website not long ago and saw that “usable weight capacity” in the specs and wondered why they changed to that.. Now I know..

@ChadHooverFishing

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👊🏻

@MysticalDragon73

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Yep and one reason I will NEVER support them. Same with bonafide as I got burned on my SS127 because they never stated they subtracted boat weight. I will NEVER support a misleading and deceiving company that does this bs.

Can you post a link for the safety knives you were telling Jeff Little about that you keep beside you on your kayak? I think you called a parachute knife. Thanks for all you do Chad

@ChadHooverFishing

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www.shop.thebosnslocker.com/KNIFE-J-HOOK-RESCUE-SAR9970.htm

@johnwhite993

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@@ChadHooverFishing thanks a bunch

Good thing i have a hobie pa 14. Cuz im a big boy with a lot of gear. Tm, batteries and double units.

@ChadHooverFishing

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Have you seen the updated weight capacity on it?

@troutnbassinkayakfishin

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@@ChadHooverFishing When did Hobie update the weight capacities on their website? I noticed that my 2022 Compass says 425 lb capacity

@troutnbassinkayakfishin

Жыл бұрын

On the sticker but 400 lbs on their website. My Compass is a 2022.

Which brands include the weight of the kayak in the capacity? Because that is not "maximum capacity", it's the "maximum displacement".

@jagermiker

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NuCanoe kayaks have already factored in the weight of the hull and seat. They also distinguish the difference between self bailing max and max with scuppers plugged.

@MysticalDragon73

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Bonafide and old town do this nonsense. There are a couple others. Jackson does NOT do this.

I guess there's no trade association that could push this? At a minimum, you'd think there would be a standard from the US Coast Guard that defines capacity.

After watching your video I went to eco going shop online checked out two different kayaks. For old town sportsman auto pilot kayak it says Total Boat Capacity: 660 pounds And underneath this it says Usable capacity for people and gear: 512 pounds is this what you’re talking about? Cause then I went to Nucanoe unlimited and it only says User Max Weight: 600 lbs. So my question is did Nucanoe not provide complete details of their kayak, and if not will they soon? Thank you so much Chad this is great information for me to decide what I want to do.

Brother, thank you first off. I’m 6’3” and 360lbs looking for my first kayak. Any recommendations? Preferably under 2k

Thanks I know I am overloading my Kayak just because of how it sits in the water. Is there anyway to add usable capacity to a kayak?

My rule of thumb , keep weight as lite as I can . Heavy boats loaded down are tough to paddle. Besides I enjoy dink drop ….🤪

Chad doing work

How does bonafide determine their weight capacity? Like the ex 123 says 375lb is the weight of the boat already factored in? Or is it actually 315 lbs?

Lightning strike hd kayaks have a weight capacity of 450 that's including the boat angler and gear. I am one of the brand ambassador for lightning strike hd kayaks!!!

@MysticalDragon73

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So just to clarify you have to subtract the boat weight from the capacity? Why support this misleading and dangerous practice? Yes anything you put into a boat should be considered for capacity. However a seat or baot weight should NEVER be part of the capacity. Its absurd.

I am new kayak fisherman. What do you rate a Yukon Angler 116 kayak.

I enjoy my yak but if I want to fish I'll take my boat , Hope those fisherman that load up their yak with all that gear never flip it :)

Is nucanoe unlimited really 650 lbs

@ChadHooverFishing

11 ай бұрын

That’s their rating with the scupper plugs in it

Is there a podcast for this channel Chad?

@ChadHooverFishing

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Yes. There is also a PODCAST playlist for the videos that are on the channel