Probably the best review I’ve watched. Spoken honestly about what this bike actually is... a DUALSPORT! Not a dirt bike, not a woods racing machine. It’s meant to do everything

@patriotofgod9827

5 жыл бұрын

The 250 is better.

@tjlovesrachel

4 жыл бұрын

500 exc-f all day

@sloan4764

4 жыл бұрын

Patriot OfGod I’m trying to decide wether to get a 250 or 450, why do you think the 250 is better

@jaypuck6912

4 жыл бұрын

@@sloan4764 The 250L is HEAVY! Makes the 450L feel like a PW50.

@jaypuck6912

4 жыл бұрын

@@tjlovesrachel How many people make a luggage rack for the 500? Oh, yeah. NO ONE. Carbon fiber subframe. Great for a trail bike. Not an option if you want to carry luggage and the KTM is VERY, VERY BUZZY. I really wanted another KTM but I didn't like the vibration in the footpegs and grips at highway speeds. Very happy with the 450L.

Best review I've seen on this bike. No unnecessary verbiage, well informed and honest. Well done.

Great review Michael, I grew up riding XR's and have been waiting for a bike like this for a long time. Everyone complains about the service intervals, look at the overall package and what it was designed to do. Appreciate the honest review, now I just need to save my pennies...

I really dig this bike. Great video, thanks for going into such detail - I love your footage.

Love the reviews great job young man.

Very solid & in depth review. I would have to say that Seely's 450L build is by far the best lookn' though. 😉

You are a truly well balanced rider that lays out the idiosyncrasy’s of this bike. Finally! You answered all of my questions that were not being answered.

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

cthurston43 thank ya man! 🤘🏻

My sentiments exactly! I'm picking one up bright and early tomorrow!! :)

@MRUNDISPUTEDCHAMPION

4 жыл бұрын

Dave Stowers Did you end up getting the 450l?

this is such a good review. thanks 100%!

Great no BS review! Thanks. I just bought this bike and I love it except for that damn rock hard seat. But that can be changed. Along with a few other items, like exhaust, vortex tuner, tank, etc. Still, an awesome bike, even if nothing was changed.

Great review and easy to understand.

Bike is not heavy, has plenty of power and is better then the X model. Good job Micheal

Great video. Appreciate the honesty. Need a better seat and a decent windscreen. Will it run 70mph? Still looking for a KLR replacement. Is this it?

You should make the 2019 kx450 exhaust video that you said you were going to do a couple months ago

Damn you’re good.. I’m IMPRESSED...SUBSCRIBED👍👍

I agree. Great bike!!

My dealer has 2019's for 8500$ I'm sold I'm confident I can shave 13lbs atleast off of it, but I'm not worried at a 135lbs and riding a usd fork xr400. that 450L will feel like a Ferrari thank you for the transparent review

Really good review 🤙

I would have not mind if had honda added an extra 20 - 40lbs just to keep the traditional dualsport maintenance schedule. this def would have been the perfect dual sport

@jaypuck6912

4 жыл бұрын

I came off a heavy 325 lb KTM. I was very happy to shed the weight for trail riding. If this bike was the same weight as a KTM 690, I'd have a KTM 690 (which can be mapped down in HP. No reason to have a heavy 450. And, I'm not sure what you mean by a "traditional" dual sport maintenance interval. The WRs and KTM have similar maintenance schedules. I think you are mistaking "adventure" bikes for dual sport. Adventure bikes are meant for long mileage trips. Are you mistaking the DRZ400 as a dual sport and not an adventure bike, like so many do? www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/top-10-adventure-bikes-for-new-adventure-riders/11/

@RWWRENTAL

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaypuck6912 what I mean by traditional dual sport is something like the drz400, klx250, 701, 690 etc vs KTM 250 EXCF or Betas. Well betas have very good intervals. Either shed the weight to make it like a ktm dual sport (not the 690) or add the weight to make it 3k -4k oil changes. The market is only flooded with 250s as of now and not a single big bore dualsport besides the 701 and 690, which I own the Beta 350rr, TE250i, 701 enduro, klx250 and also the drz400.

I put a full fmf exhaust, EFI Tuner and twin air on mine shaved weight everywhere I could with aluminum parts, and my 450L rips like a M EF’R

@markkus1134

4 жыл бұрын

Justin Until you mean weight lol

Well done. I have ridden my 300 miles on asphalt to get to the WABDR then 578 miles on dirt followed by 300 miles on asphalt. Does put you a bit past the oil change but hey with most of the miles on asphalt I think that's safe.

@mattmaffett5879

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, how the eff did your ass handle THAT many miles? Do you have a Seat Concepts or something? I ask because I'm also looking at this bike very seriously. I have the stock seat on my puny 250, and it's all I can do to ride 100 miles, and it's a sight wider than the stock 450 seat. So I wanted to know if a custom seat is really good enough to allow a man to ride that many miles comfortably. Seems like a lot, even with a custom seat.

Best review I've seen of the 450L from dual sport perspective. Also check out Jimmy Lewis and Adam Booth for other guys that don't just read spec sheets.

Seen a lot of reviews on this bike...lot of points here most people missed..great job!

Great Review!

Would you consider testing a San Diego Powerhouse Stage 2 built CRF450L? I'm interested to hear what your thoughts would be against the stock trim. 19+HP and about 11lbs lighter makes me wonder how much it changes the character of the bike.

I'm 10 miles from Gravel roads and 30 miles from Fire Roads & Singletrack. I can see myself going out for 6-8 hours and tying all that in together. A buddy of mine has suggested looking into an Adventure Bike (Africa Twin ... 790R) but I just don't think I'll need the Rider Settings and other things. Could the CRF450L be the right bike for me?

I wish Honda would make another 450 L with longer maintenance intervals, sure it weighs a few more pounds but so what

@HeyAddieImTojo

4 жыл бұрын

Cool stuff agreed!!

@ukmudlover7839

4 жыл бұрын

The 250l works well. Tops out at 85mph. Only problem is getting stuck in other bike rutts. Gets up nearly everything though but if it goes wrong you have that extra weight to fight with

@MrScoobieman

4 жыл бұрын

Ukmudlover I just ended up getting the 450l

@ukmudlover7839

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrScoobieman I want to try it out myself but it's not happening anytime soon haha.

@drewmorg.

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrScoobieman 450L is a beast, we have ours modded with all the stuff he talks about and the bike flat out rips... street and dirt. It's still a big heavy girl in the dirt for me to control at 155 lbs, but at the same time it's incredibly planted on the street. It's a great compromise if you're actually riding to your trail destinations.

Good review

Brilliant review. New sub

Have you done a vid on the RX?

Awesome bike!

Jodie Foster's review of the CRF450L! Surprising.

what I wish is that they make a 250 version or 300 but with the seat height of the CRF250L, same narrow seat but the lower seat height and a slightly lower cost. I don't mind even if I would have to pay the same amount of money but unfortunately, I only have a 31 to 32-inch inseam at least they should offer a low seat version. otherwise Beta is more approachable.

The world needs a real Dualsport. I hope the CRF650R comes down the pipe next year.

Do you get called Lindsay Michael at the doctors and what not...I'm always getting called Lindsay lmao...nice review

And not a single audio clip of the exhaust/engine 😭 ik there are plenty of vids on yt though

I love my 2019 CRF450l. It definitely needs the ECU and exhaust.

@chrisblanchard4938

4 жыл бұрын

How is the bike stock? Why does it need the ECU and exhaust?

@DouglasKphoto

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Blanchard it’s jerky stock and corked up for emissions. You don’t need an exhaust. You can put the vortex on the zero map and it’s great with stock exhaust. Yosh just takes it up a notch.

@chrisblanchard4938

4 жыл бұрын

Crypto & Dirt Thank you!

Great review, so this bike or the FE501 you reviewed for best dual sport with trail/dirt bias? Best of the two all around? if you could have just 1?

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

Craig Bramscher for all-around, definitely the CRF...dirt only, the FE.

@CraigBramscher

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelLindsay thanks again for the best reviews...

Nice bike but for the money I’d buy a year old Husky hands down! I’m old school with a XR 400 street legal

Which is better the Yamaha 450 dual-sport or the Honda 450 dual-sport, I just watched your video on the 2020 Yamaha 450 & you loved it.

@MichaelLindsay

5 жыл бұрын

Brian Walker Yamaha doesn’t make a dual sport bike, the YZ450F I rode is a full motocross bike and isn’t street legal. It’s competitor from Honda would be the CRF450R.

@user-zx4sl9qi6y

5 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelLindsay wr 450?

Now give us a CRF450L Rally Honda, please make it happen, so I can buy one :)

600 mile oil changes and valve clearance checks every other oil change, along with a meager 41 hp when a DRZ 400 has 39 hp has lost me on buying the CRF450L. I do like how it looks though.

@TheJaxsonjack

4 жыл бұрын

So the Suzuki has less maintenance involved?

What peoples opinion on best dual sport... I'm thinking of getting the husky 701..

@freedom24v86

5 жыл бұрын

Depends heavily on use But usually Drz400 Wrf250f Crf250l Kdx250s Crf650l Dr650 Klx650 List goes on but euro bikes trnd to not be on the list for being high maintenance race machines rather then dual sports But ive heard the 701 is decent outside of tank placement But even the crf450l isnt considered a dual sport in the dual sport world we call it a mx\dirf bike with plates Because we are s Used to 7000 mile oil changes and 15k miles valve checks and cruising a highway for distences that this bike frankly cant do without needing an oil change or two just to get to the favorite camp spot or trail

@chriscatron2978

5 жыл бұрын

Pistol Pete notice what he said. Fire roads. The suspension is shit. Look at Ktm 500 or Husky 501 lighter bike and better suspension. I think this guy must way a buck 145 to ride the Honda.

can you buy one with both electric and kick starter?

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

train heartnet nope.

Check out my thoughts on Husqvarna's 2019 FE 501 Dual Sport, which I tested at the same time as the Honda: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p36atqyenavOkdY.html

But will it be as reliable as my XR650L?

@nathanf1934

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but its not a pig.

@OGPokey151

4 жыл бұрын

Only thing as reliable as a 650l is a hammer and taxes

Step 1: Honda to make Crf450 rally Step 2: Profit

@Aspired329

4 жыл бұрын

Step #3 is profit, Step #2 is left bank ;)

Is a nice bike but I think is too expensive to buy and modify, for a similar price you better off to get a 2020 ktm 500 or a 2020 690 and you don’t need to modify anything to it.

Essa CRF é linda pena que não vem para o Brasil

Test the KTM 500 ! 👍

@MichaelLindsay

5 жыл бұрын

Husky 501 will be up early next week.

@AspearMotorSports

5 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelLindsay 690/701 too

dualsport maintenance schedule? Talk about that ! As opposed to Enduro

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

george james I didn’t have the bike long enough to speak of maintenance intervals.

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

Rhetorical Answer all oem service intervals are overkill. I know a few people who have put over 150 hours on these bikes without changing anything within the motor. Just oil services and air filters.

in short its a road legal R

Now suzuki make a drz 450.drz is king of tru duel sport

@esimler

5 жыл бұрын

Jon Smith no

@markkus1134

4 жыл бұрын

Nope

Power ( kw ) ?

@0blomoff

5 ай бұрын

45hp

Why the Specialized hat?

You didn't mention about the flame outs, especially on single track. This must have been a paid promotion. I have found the bike to be a bit of an expensive lemon compared to what else is available. The only good point is the bikes capacity to fit extra lights.

@MichaelLindsay

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Tucker I turned up the idle a bit as I felt it stutter a few times and never experienced any flameouts. I have experienced them on their moto models before, but didn’t on the L during my time with it. And I want to bust up laughing on the paid promotion part, like Honda cares about my little KZread channel...

@arthurkineard7356

5 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelLindsay Haters will hate man.

@jetstream454

5 жыл бұрын

Tch tch *head shakes*. C'mon Mr Tucker

@rcinoc3948

5 жыл бұрын

Vortex ecu fmf full exhaust Completely new bike. Night and day difference. Also, 80% rider 20% bike. Also optional 6 years of warranty an added bonus

@esimler

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Tucker you just can’t ride lmaooo

Hi, I erick the owner of the Valkon HD channel. I ask for your permission to re-upload this video.

KTM 450EXC and 500 EXC (street legal) absolutely shit on this bike when comparing power and weight. I can see the appeal tho for someone who spends more time on the street or like you said coming from a 250 dual sport. But to build an L into a woods bike is just silly when they pretty much start at the same price and the L would require a lot of money in mods to be as capable off road as the KTM. The Honda is the best platform to start with if building a supermoto bike maybe. I use my KTM 450 EXC street legal primarily off road and only ride street to connect trails.

@MichaelLindsay

5 жыл бұрын

S Race I don’t disagree on the weight at all, power wasn’t as far off as I expected but I did ride the Husky FE 501 at the same time and during the week I rode the L. Plus I did a music video shoot where I rode the 501 in the desert, and I found the forks to be quite underwhelming. To the point I could get through obstacles and sections on the L quicker and in more control than the 501. That’s why in my test here I focused a lot on those suspension comments and the quality of the components.

@SkylarRace

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Lindsay I think the L is a great step forward for Honda and the bike is kind of in a class of its own. Where the Ktm husky is more off road focused the L sits right in the middle between those bikes and bikes like the 690. I just wish it was lighter and a little more power for the money you spend.

@SkylarRace

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Lindsay where the Ktm shines in hard enduro and gnarly woods single track, I think that stock L would really struggle. That’s what I’m trying to get at.

@michaelsalice9952

5 жыл бұрын

@@SkylarRace Where the Honda shines is in 10 years when it's still running strong and the KTM is broken down and its parts are obsolete........just saying.

@SkylarRace

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Salice Ha I had a 94 Ktm 300exc a couple years ago and that bike still ripped, very reliable. And yes parts were harder to find but still readily available. But 10 years from now the Ktm will still be lighter and faster, maybe one or two more engine rebuilds than the L. But that’s because the L is so de-tuned it’s pathetic. Ktm has grown in size immensely since building those older bikes, parts will never be an issue going forward. Ktm builds the best bikes now, not just for enduro but for motocross/supercross and every segment of off-road riding. Dakar rally you name it they build the best bike for it. Top 10 at moto 1 for 450’s at Red Bud yesterday 6 Ktm’s 1 Honda that’s not even including Husky which basically is Ktm now.