After he was fired, Charles Elliot was transferred to a post in the Republic of Texas, which was the 1840's equivalent of being transferred to Antarctica. While there he succeed in negotiating a treaty of recognition and peace between Mexico and Texas which was to be guaranteed by France and Great Britain. However, the Texas Congress threw it out in favor of Annexation to the United States.

@clayxros576

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right.

@combativeThinker

5 жыл бұрын

The poor guy just can't catch a break.

@benwilsonMMA

3 жыл бұрын

good now we have arizona

@ttry1152

2 жыл бұрын

@@benwilsonMMA well.. there is always the virgin islands

@ishuikamakura272

2 жыл бұрын

Of course America

Wow if Qishan is fine he must be the longest living person in the world

@Delayed_0

8 жыл бұрын

No... Just Chinese people for ya.

@silent_stalker3687

8 жыл бұрын

+Delayed just Asians.

@eliplayzmc4111

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@crispybacon4240

8 жыл бұрын

I've observed a strange phenomena among Asians, particularly women. They appear young well into their 50's, then, when their sons/daughters bear them grandchildren, they shrivel up into old grandmas. It's similar to some Nordic women - I know one lucky woman in her 30's who's daughter is constantly mistaken for her sister.

@Delayed_0

8 жыл бұрын

president comacho Can you show me some valid studies that show that?...*Giggle*... (I think you have a lot of pent up racism.)

"Don't worry he lived, he's fine." XD I'm glad though

So basically...two people that are against war make the absolute best deal possible to avoid war...and their bosses are pissed because they didn't get all the things? ...These sound like really smart leaders to me...

@Rakshasa1986

8 жыл бұрын

If you can find power, you will also find people who don't deserve it.

@ZORO12ful

8 жыл бұрын

Look from the British view of the things though. They were superior in terms of technology so a war against the Chinese wouldn't have been too costly for them. If anything , a war was the most profitable way. The Qing got smashed while the Brits got everything they wanted with minimal losses.

@alyssaagnew4147

8 жыл бұрын

That's the mark of a good compromise, it leaves no one satisfied.

@Flaris

8 жыл бұрын

That sounds about right. Leaders can be greedy, arrogant, and utterly stupid. Sadly the smartest people in that situation were the ones that didn't have all the power. Could negotiate a great deal, but doesn't matter if the leaders are idiots.

@nelsonchereta816

8 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it WASN'T a great deal from the British perspective. And as unfair and unreasonable as it was, it made perfect sense for the British to reject the terms.

I look for more information about Elliot and hey, he is now one of my favourite historical figures. Before arriving China he was involved in the abolition of slavery in Guiana. And after China he tried to abolish slavery in Texas and to make peace with Mexico. He seems like a decent human being, specially considering the age he lived.

Elliot is one of my favorite historical figures covered in Extra History, and this video perfectly encapsulates why. He's not eager to spill blood by any means, but he's also not spineless. Wedged between duty to his country and the ideals of that country, he picks the ideals, but does not entirely betray his duty. He's been put in a shitty position by his superiors and is trying to make the best of it. The British come first in his eyes, but the Chinese are still people. It's rare to see a guy that committed to doing the right thing in the face of so much wrong.

@TESkyrimizer

5 жыл бұрын

Truly the world needs more people like Charles Elliot and John Rabe.

@ianedwards3482

4 жыл бұрын

Great Post HalfTangible

@marhabacarpet8593

4 жыл бұрын

Nope, he is evil

@arthurlau98

4 жыл бұрын

Strong and Reasonable. That is Elliot. Too bad Lord Palmerston is a greedy and Daoguang Emperor is an idiot.

@maxfactor4209

4 жыл бұрын

he is a war criminal indeed.

knock knock It's the United Kingdom with huge boats, with guns, (gunboats) "Open the country. Stop having it be closed" said the United Kingdom

@DershPardonNow

8 жыл бұрын

yes

@charlieterry8506

8 жыл бұрын

"we just want to sell some shit. like clocks. and guns. and 《|{ *JESUS* }|》

@Fatortu

8 жыл бұрын

and opium haha

@HxH2011DRA

8 жыл бұрын

I understood that reference

@dropmelon

8 жыл бұрын

What are they referencing in the comment?

Why are good people who avoid war & bloodshed looked down upon by their leaders even today?

@rancidmarshmallow4468

8 жыл бұрын

because leaders often feel pressured A) politically by their rivals & supporters in the population to assert dominance and B) often people (usually irrationally) think they can get a better deal by using force.

@rmsgrey

8 жыл бұрын

Because the leaders don't have to deal with the reality of the violence, but can appreciate the value of what the violence can get them.

@adamcommenting7848

8 жыл бұрын

+Josh Neubert Because sometimes war and bloodshed is the best solution.

@woodzy136

8 жыл бұрын

On a state level, people need to be pragmatic above all else. Google Neville Chamberlain. For the price of peace, he allowed Germany to fully occupy two countries and rearm themselves to the point that they were a global threat. And most people at the time thought he was doing a pretty damn good job >_>

@rmsgrey

8 жыл бұрын

***** It's always hard to play "what if" convincingly, but if Chamberlain had tried to stand up to Germany over the Sudetenland rather than bringing home "peace in our time" then it seems likely he'd have been kicked out and replaced by someone more willing to negotiate...

I believe that the shining example of a military officer is men like Captain Elliot. A moral man, who always looks to end the bloodshed quickly. But ALSO is loyal to his country, and more than willing to lead on the frontlines against the foes of his people. Captain Elliot should be honored for being an amazing wartime officer and negotiator, and a man too good for the leaders he had.

The fact that the Empire has a new super advanced and powerful warship named 'Nemesis' is incredibly space opera-esque

@Attaxalotl

3 ай бұрын

The Brits have the best names for things.

To me this series is about cultural differences at their absolute worst. It's a rare case of two countries on completely opposite ends of the globe forced by economics to interact with each other, and nobody knows how. They both think of each other as being vastly inferior savages, and the people that actually understand both sides are expelled for being irrational. You can see this playing out even as early as the kowtow debacle that started things off.

It always baffles me how these seemingly impossible combinations of unfortunate circumstances errupt in an all-out war.

@alexfrank5331

2 жыл бұрын

It's baffling because you subconsciously notice that this is too much of an coincidence and you are right.

@painvillegaming4119

Жыл бұрын

@@alexfrank5331 as great man once said the biggest difference between reality and fiction is that fiction must at least make some sense

As a Brit, I've heard of the Opium War, but I was mostly ignorant to it. It's not really something we are taught much about in school. Whenever it's mentioned it's usually a brief 'We won, end of story'. Having watched these videos, I can see why it probably isn't taught. It's most likely shame. Not exactly a heroic part of our history. I knew the British Empire was by no means a force for good, but yes, this is certainly not something I can be proud of my history for. I know there were faults on both sides and we shouldn't apply the morals of today to history, but it still stings to hear some of this stuff. Very glad for the video though, it's something that we should know and learn from.

@jela-yah1202

6 жыл бұрын

Lel my country was irrelevant to this event yet we are being taught about this in school 😂😂

@quinb6837

6 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you because this is a fascinating topic and we should really learn more about it

@Darkprosper

6 жыл бұрын

Lord Pent Germany does the exact contrary. They study nazis and communist east germany almost every year and crush any shadow of national pride. Their feeling of guilt and penance is ridiculously oversized, and I find it a bit depressing. And I'm saying it as a french, a country that was at the receiving end of quite a few of their atrocities across History. I don't like excessive nationalism, but the opposite extreme is bad too.

@hansgruber788

6 жыл бұрын

Um Ethan, you're right not to be proud of every aspect of British history, but you do have to remember that that old empire of ours abolished slavery and literally blew up the slave ships of other european powers. It introduced democracy and liberal trade. English Law and language were introduced and indeed without its huge numbers of men we'd probably never have fended off Hitler. So it wasn't bad, and at certain times yes, a force for good.

@lettuce8635

6 жыл бұрын

For a Hong Konger, because Brits took over Hong Kong for a hundred years. Students are being taught about this war at the age of eight. But hey! You Brits brought a amazing culture here!

but how could all the peaceful souls be taken ou-WALPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE!

@teamsarcasm-redacted2032

8 жыл бұрын

WALPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@rolan638

8 жыл бұрын

Spoiler: It was Walpole. It's. Always. Walpole.

@zacharygustafson8714

8 жыл бұрын

Walpole. Walpole never changes.

@kornetbeef

8 жыл бұрын

He strike again!

@MerlinCross13

8 жыл бұрын

I love that he's become the running joke/gag of the series

But who could have been captain of the Royal Saxon, the ship that ignited the battle that - Walpole. It was Walpole.

@teamsarcasm-redacted2032

8 жыл бұрын

It is always Walpole.

@rahmatbanua7009

5 жыл бұрын

Wait, so you mean WATPOLE is not A POLE????????????

@johnblunt284

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe using my swords.

You should include Queen Victoria's letter to her uncle King Leoppold of Belgium when you do the lies. It illustrates the attitude of the English at home: "The Chinese business vexes us much, and Palmerston is deeply mortified at it. All we wanted might have been got, if it had not been for the unaccountably strange conduct of Charles Elliot ... who completely disobeyed his instructions and tried to get the lowest terms he could. [...] The attack and storming of the [Chuenpee] Forts on the 7th of January was very gallantly done by the Marines, and immense destruction of the Chinese took place. The accounts of the cruelty of the Chinese to one another are horrible. Albert is so much amused at my having got the Island of Hong Kong, and we think Victoria ought to be called Princess of Hong Kong in addition to Princess Royal".

@joelproko

8 жыл бұрын

Did Queen Victoria have a daughter also called Victoria or are you mistaken about who the author of this letter was?

@ocadioan

8 жыл бұрын

joelproko Yep, Queen Victoria of Prussia

@andrewrendon7789

8 жыл бұрын

No mistake. :) Queen Victoria had a daughter named Victoria: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria,_Princess_Royal Also, Queen Victoria's mother was also named Victoria: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Victoria_of_Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld

@PINGPONGROCKSBRAH

8 жыл бұрын

Best comment. I love learning about the background stuff like this.

@tristantfly

8 жыл бұрын

+Quick Dodge I'd think otherwise, considering the Queen's full name was Alexandrina Victoria of Hanover, her daughter Victoria Adelaide Mary Louisa of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and Mary Louise Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld before her.

That bit at the very end makes me wonder how the REAL Walpole would feel about being reduced to cartoon villain status in a web series seen weekly by hundreds of thousands of people.

@jonathancampbell5231

8 жыл бұрын

EVEN YOU!

@alexioskomnenos9050

8 жыл бұрын

shhh

@Archgeek0

8 жыл бұрын

After the initial technology and culture shock...he'd probably think it was hilarious.

@commode7x

8 жыл бұрын

It would take him 15 minutes to overcome the shock.

@ginoclaves

8 жыл бұрын

It makes me wonder how the REAL [insert historic character] would feel about being reduced to cartoon in a web series seen weekly by hundreds of thousands of people. Really dude? It's supposed to be a summed up, eye-pleasing way to deliver history-related info. If anyone actually wanted info on these eras, they'd already be sure it wouldn't be a 30-minutes ride (all the episodes in one of these series, as each video is 6 minutes or so, should give at maximum 30 minutes).

The Opium War should be renamed to The Tea War as a grim reminder of how much blood have been spill for that sip of tea...

@MrLi-fd4hs

5 жыл бұрын

Can the British kill so many people in order to drink tea?

@Ed-ws3rw

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, Tea trade and Opium trade are not the same thing. Drug trading is not something worthy joking about. The British empire is a nightmare to the world except for themselves.

"what, we never did you any harm" the Chinese not understand how a threat works or imperialism

@SecretOwl2023

8 жыл бұрын

No, that's just James' modern interpretation. The Chinese were an empire, they regularly engaged in imperialism over the surrounding regions, so they understood it. The problem is they did not realize just how badly the British needed the opium trade, which is why they assumed it was an empty threat.

@nelsonchereta816

8 жыл бұрын

Oh, the Chinese understood threats and imperialism. What they didn't understand was that they could be on the RECEIVING end.

@serialkillerwhale

8 жыл бұрын

Small fish, tiny pond.

@CY_Chen

5 жыл бұрын

​@@SecretOwl2023 You obviously don't know much about chinese history. When ancient china visited south east asia and africa, they didn't invade, they only took them as tributary states (and protected those states instead). It is only between han chinese kingdoms there were many kingdoms, then unified into first Qin dynasty etc. China proper never expanded, it only expanded when mongols invaded china successfully forming Yuan Dynasty, and then later on overwritten again by Han Chinese to form Ming Dynasty, which also helped protected Korean Joseon Dynasty to protect against Japanese Invasion. Only then when many soldiers died to defend the smaller brother state Joseon Dynasty, did Ming Dynasty later on fell to Manchu people again, forming Qing Dynasty. Which reunified China again under the territories claimed by previous Mongol-led Yuan Dynasty to include non-han chinese like Tibetans, Mongols and Manchus etc.

@combativeThinker

5 жыл бұрын

They tried to swindle the British out of their tea, _while being unbearably snide about it!_ What did they expect?

The Chinese emperor "we shall defeat them with our superior technology and naval might" The British "You sure about that...."

@Clee-os6pv

8 жыл бұрын

+Simo The emperor had no idea about his enemy and how outdated their technology was!

@TheBespectacledN00b

8 жыл бұрын

Didn't help the variois mandarins kept reporting glorious victories to him that never actually occurred to cover their own arses.

@Clee-os6pv

8 жыл бұрын

TheBespectacledN00b That is also true too.

@honeybadger4396

7 жыл бұрын

I don't think they said that. What a shitty joke.

@iainmchugh2001

6 жыл бұрын

Brandon I don't think you understand why the industrial revolution happened.

Here we can see how greed can destroy us humans

@die4europa280

8 жыл бұрын

Well Britain is a prosperous nation in the present & China a polluted hellhole, guess some of the humans actually won eh ?

@Stormkevin_

8 жыл бұрын

Not cool!

@TrueBluesProductions

8 жыл бұрын

History is complicated... many millions of Chinese people have been lifted out of poverty thanks to trade with the world, if it weren't for the vile communist dictators' control over China, things would be better.

@Stormkevin_

8 жыл бұрын

I agree! Another thing that would help is not relying on China so heavialy for manufacturing...

@HUNDmiau

8 жыл бұрын

They're not communists, they were more or less fascists. Well, now they're more like DDR. Not communist, not even really socialist.

Asian History is SO interesting man, it's really awesome

@Clee-os6pv

6 жыл бұрын

+NFKRZ's Son: Too bad the Manchus made China a weak and backwater civilization. If the Ming Dynasty was still in power and never fell. The Ming would have given the British a run for her money. The Ming Dynasty defeated Dutch, Portuguese, and Spanish. Before the British Empire became such a thing.

@Jaymembership

6 жыл бұрын

NFKRZ's Son hi

@wyw201

5 жыл бұрын

The Ming dynasty will never be in power for that long, the late Ming period have serious issues in administration that the emperor doesn't even have full authority over the army in all regions. Also, for Ming to match European powers later on, they would need to adopt full industrialization.

@combativeThinker

5 жыл бұрын

A good deal of it is utterly reprehensible, though.

@ZestyFireTF2

5 жыл бұрын

..... yea really

"Don't worry, Qi Shan lived; he's fine." Yeah, lives in Montreal now. Spends his days playing Go and CandyCrush.

I love how similar the two empires and their officials are. That bit at the end where the diplomats work out a deal where nobody loses much, pissing off their bosses and losing their jobs, was a perfect summation of this.

YOU GET A MUSTACHE! AND YOOOUUUU GET A MUSTACHE! AND YYOOOOOOUUUUUU GET A MUSTACHE!

@RanockIronfist

8 жыл бұрын

In the time, the government would pay cops more to have a mustache. The mustache would make you seem more amiable and friendly. From this culture the mustache proliferated like cancer.

@heavytube7890

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe all the Chinese soldiers were under the influence of a moustache?

Ah, Lord Palmerston. Of course *he* would get involved, being the Foreign Secretary at the time...

“The British were too far away to fight a war” Argentina: yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa rIgHt

@dhl567

2 жыл бұрын

It's longer to sail from UK to China than to Argentina.

Wait, wait... WHY were the Chinese trying to defend the Royal Saxon? Or are you saving this for the lies episode because that wasn't clear. At all.

@ingloriouscanadian9323

8 жыл бұрын

I think it was because the ship was going to break the British blockade, and trade with the Chinese. That's what it looks like, anyway.

@ASCG5000

8 жыл бұрын

The Royal Saxon was a blockade runner.

@Unruly6ixx

8 жыл бұрын

I'm trying figure that out two

@ocadioan

8 жыл бұрын

In Europe, red flags are a sign of battle(dating to the Romans), while in China, it symbolizes good luck and is often used for weddings and other holidays. If I had to guess, I assume that the Chinese weren't there to do battle, but rather to find out what was happening.

@jaccuse4086

8 жыл бұрын

it was Walpole.

I'd love to buy historic character's fridge magnets. Your animations are so cool. Even a game would be awesome :)

Would you be interested in a trade agreement with England?

@clayxros576

5 жыл бұрын

After playing Civilization so many times, hearing that sentence makes me fire up my guns.

Spoiler: China doesn't get terms nearly this good in the end. Also, hand written treaties are a pain to read. And what is a dollar in this context? England uses Pounds and China uses Yuan but the reparations are given in dollars.

@karfsma778

8 жыл бұрын

No, that's the symbol for the pound. and they said pound all the times I heard.

@barryfraser831

8 жыл бұрын

American dollars

@theeyehead3437

8 жыл бұрын

They used pounds in the video. I'm assuming its not adjusted for inflation and such,

@dexterred4932

8 жыл бұрын

Yeap, the final version of the term was a disaster, and it will continue like 80 years.

@dexterred4932

8 жыл бұрын

Actually, the number was not quite clear since back then China knew nothing about British currency, the pound in this video might actually a pound of silver rather than a British currency.

I love these History series, im learning more than I did at school, lol. Keep up the wonderful work guys!

@tygonmaster

8 жыл бұрын

Heh....is that not funny? It really speaks volumes about modern education.

@jokerman9623

8 жыл бұрын

To be fair I find public education as merely a starting point for educating yourself on history. Though even for that they usually focus on a small list of events. (at least from my school they did, though I liked the teachers a lot.)

@Benjamin1986980

8 жыл бұрын

Entertainment and story-based education is much, MUCH better for recall. Don't y'all ever watch the main show. However, don't be fooled. This is of a far narrower scope than even the most restricted history class you ever took. You are learning a single story of a single war. It's a lot easier to give this treatment when you can restrict the scope.

@alucardwhitehair

8 жыл бұрын

Do people expect to learn every aspect of history in school or....

@tygonmaster

8 жыл бұрын

Garret Griffith Probably some people as there is always the exception to the rule, but from what I have heard the most, people simply want the current systems revised for the modern age. People do not seem to want to learn more, but rather be shown how what they are learning matters and can be useful as well as be taught it in a way that is interesting. So, interest, point, and practicality are all things the current systems of education lack.

Dammit EC! We don't write our dates like that! Feel free to do that mixed up craziness when writing about US history but for the rest of us it's day/month/year. (Loving your work but seriously stahp with the date murdering)

@joelproko

8 жыл бұрын

I very much agree. But to avoid confusion, use day.month.year rather than either slashes version.

@AndrewMeyer

8 жыл бұрын

How about we compromise and use an international standard like ISO 8601? yyyy-mm-dd

@bainjohn

8 жыл бұрын

american channel, american dates. you can write yours however you want

@meepwolf

8 жыл бұрын

It's not like they put numbers for the month, they said the month names out loud. How could you possibly be confused?

@sonicboom428

8 жыл бұрын

He's not confused. He just wants an excuse to wave his European willy around. XD

I adore that Walpole is now a running gag in these shows.

Thank you for including the "almost" portions of the trade talks, often omitted by others but which give such a deeper understanding of the issues.

I look forward to this show every week. Thanks for making it!

As a full blown history nerd, I heartily approve of this channel! Keep up the good work.

07:46 Damn it Walpole

I adore this series. Thank you so much for making it EC. I've shared these videos and some EC videos with friends and family. Keep doing what you do fam

I love y'alls animation so much! It's so funny, and it's incredible how much emotion and action you guys can convey with such simple animation!

2:36 With a ship named "Nemesis", one could only imagine the bat-shit insane things the British would have wanted to do with it.

I CAN'T STAND WAITING A WEEK FOR THESE!!! :D I NEED MORE LOL

I just binge watched this channel for an hour, darn you for making History bite-sized enjoyable, and then stroking an appetite for learning more!

One thing that I hope James will talk about in lies, is that the British had hill side upon hill side of tea in India but because the British hadn't seen tea production they didn't realise that is was the same plant. The anecdotal story I remember was that it was only after they had cleared an area of "weeds" in an attempt to cultivate (stolen?) Chinese tea that someone pointed out that the weeds they were clearing were the same plant as they were planting. And that in typical Imperial fashion if took nearly half a century to confirm this.

+Extra Credits The opening to this was a little rough. It feels like you needed 1 more second of quiet before speaking at the beginning of the video to better divorce it from the ad before it.

Watching all episode I can say, pride was the cause of 99% of the wars.

This is so brilliantly done. Thank you for making this.

Man, I just love your history series! I can't wait for more! XD

And that day, on opposing sides of the world... Charles Elliot and Qishan facepalmed in unison.

@thekhans2823

3 жыл бұрын

ye

Can you guy maybe ellaborate a bit why China at this point in time did not have a military that could match the English?

@abpire

8 жыл бұрын

Actually Qing CHina was already in decline and the quality of the troops was nowhere near what they once had. It took until around 2000 until China, both "Chinas" ,had finally reached the same level as the west when it comes to military, both training,tactics and hardware.

@mybutthasteeth1347

8 жыл бұрын

In addition to everyone else's comments, Britain = expansionist = lots of wars = always improving military. China = not so much.

@YaminoSeigi

8 жыл бұрын

Pretty much because Gunpowder technology got halted in China as Manchu establish their Qing dynasty. As Manchu are minority tribe ruling over majority Han, things like Gunpowder are threat for their rule considering it is easy for Han people consider Qing as illegitimate and try to overthrow them which would be way easier if Gunpowder tech was as developed as the west.

@ShamanMcLamie

8 жыл бұрын

There is actually a pretty great series from PBS that chronicles the reasons why West got ahead of the rest including China. To put it simply being such a massive and almost indomitable Empire for so long the Chinese got complacent. The country was largely self sufficient had prestige and might and no serious challengers. Britain on the other hand is on a continent full of various states constantly competing and fighting to dominate each other. The Europeans really had no choice, but to constantly keep up the anti and make strides in the realm of science, economics and war to just survive. Another point is that trade, conquest and expansion can often have destabilizing affect on a country from a political, economic and social standpoint. Often the risks of developing wild new technologies and revolutionary ideas far outweighed the benefits especially for the ruling elite. If you look at the history of China after the Opium Wars there is repeated social and civil unrest. The Taiping Rebellion the bloodiest civil war in human history broke out right after the Second Opium War and the Taiping Rebels were followers of this new Christian cult and had many crazy ideas reminiscent of Socialism such as the abolishing of land ownership. The Xinhai Revolution of 1911 was largely inspired by Democratic and Nationalist ideals of Western origin and this was the Revolution that ended Imperial China.

@nelsonchereta816

8 жыл бұрын

Industrialization, just as in today if your side has superior technology and production capacity you're probably going to win a conventional war. I think another major factor was that Britain had rivals in Europe; France, Austria, Russia, and Prussia who were also industrialized and could threaten them. Thus the British were forced to constantly improve and upgrade weapons technology or risk falling behind. China had no rivals in Asia and no one who could threaten them. They were complacent and did not feel the need to try and constantly upgrade their weapons.

People Thinking Britain is "Too far away to fight." Britain: *Is that a challenge?*

Awesome series guys! keep up the quality.

"He ordered Qishan executed for treason... don't worry, Qishan lived, he is fine." HE IS FINE EVEN TO THIS DAY?! WOW.

Ah, yes, Victorian era politics at its best.

i love love love this channel. thank you for it, Extra Credits

Dan: *talks about a war over drugs destroying china* James: *smiles blankly*

How many people let out an audible "whoa!" when they said the Emperor ordered Qishan to be executed?

Pretty sure Qishan is NOT fine. He's dead. just like every other human being in the entire world from that time.

@umartdagnir

8 жыл бұрын

Apart from Keanu Reeves.

@asdguy0091

8 жыл бұрын

Asians age super slow

short , simple and engaging. . bravo!!

loving these opium war videos, keep up the great work

5:27 Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational super Nemesis!

@linkxsc

8 жыл бұрын

Interestingly enough, Nemesis wasn't actually that well armed. Most of the more conventional frigates around, even many of the Chinese junks had more cannon. Nemesis had the maneuverability and range advantage though. And could pivot her guns to fire while ignoring the direction the ship was sailing. Also despite only having 8 guns, 2 largest were 32lbers. (Somewhere around a 4.5in gun) that were actually fairly small. (many ships would have been armed with 6 or even 8 inch guns. Monitor 30 years later mounted 2 11inch, but was designed for 2 15inch.)

I can sum up this whole 4 part series with a simple anecdote: Westerners screwed everyone, everywhere. Hard.

I think the Three Kingdoms period was one of the most exciting events in Chinese history. A series on it will be highly appreciated.

this is awesome... cant wait till next episode

A war about drugs has no voices of reason to begin with, whether it's a war for drugs or a war on drugs.

@ahouyearno

8 жыл бұрын

TheWolfOfTheStars true. Also disease wins every war, typically dysentery or common flue.

You can never go wrong with some Gunboat Diplomacy

Human history is the slow steady process of teaching humanity as a whole, about the value of compromise, and empathy.

So this comment is specifically for James, I hope he gets to see it. I was driving down the road here in Sunny FL a few weeks ago and I saw a large truck transporting goods down the highway. In very large white letters it said Walpole, not once, not twice, not three times. But from my vantage point I spotted it written four times on this truck and I could only think of you guys. Loved this episode just like the rest. Keep up the excellent work.

The stand-off outside Canton soon devolves into war. Unfortunately for China, firepower favors the British. ----- Support the show on Patreon and tell us what you'd like to learn about! bit.ly/EHPatreon

@claytonanderberg9118

8 жыл бұрын

China deserved it

@23.michael18

8 жыл бұрын

damit i want the video to be longer but ok i deal with it

@eddiewarner4299

8 жыл бұрын

+Clayton Anderberg no

@matthews5540

8 жыл бұрын

MAKE VIDEOS FASTER!!!!!!! THE WAIT FOR EACH NEW EPISODE IS KILLING ME!!!!!!

@claytonanderberg9118

8 жыл бұрын

+Eddie Warner well today they would definitely diserved that and also neither side agreed so

Let's give a salute to Captain Elliott. As decent as a British officer could in a time which gave us so much of the worst English history has to offer.

I literally cannot wait to see the Walpole connections in this...I expect great things!

I love these videos. They're so interesting.

Wolpole: Say my name. China:Walpole Wolpole: You're god damn right.

"because walpole" must become a meme. R I G H T N O W !

@Dragonite_Knight

8 жыл бұрын

It has been one for a while now.

@joelproko

8 жыл бұрын

You're way behind the times if you think it isn't already.

@suneenough

8 жыл бұрын

"Because Walpole" isn't a meme, the meme is "It was Walpole", but it's more of an in-joke.

@alessiobellotti3912

8 жыл бұрын

I want the fuc*ing image, that's what i want to see on facebook and other media

I never heard about Charles Elliot until today; he is now one of my favourite historical characters.

@thekhans2823

3 жыл бұрын

what about the Qishan ?

I was waiting for this

I mean... "don't sell drugs and obey our laws" is a pretty reasonable request

0:04 the wa stands for Waluigie

@kingjongedorian6088

5 сағат бұрын

WAAAAAHHH

Thanks. That information was all that I need for my History homework! :)

Every series Extra Credits make should be a movie/tv-show!!

Is there something different between the map of China used here and the current map of China. I think I might be going crazy

@ShamanMcLamie

8 жыл бұрын

The Russians haven't annexed half of Manchuria yet and Mongolia hasn't seceded from China.

@theresamay4280

8 жыл бұрын

There is. Qing Dynasty China had some land that the PRC does not have, such as most of Mongolia and parts of modern-day Russia in the east.

2:25 Never, NEVER think britsh wont retaliate even if they are a whole continent away they will retaliate Falklands was another example of this..

0:33 Tried and true method. Worked about 120 some odd years later for us in Gulf of Tonken too.

This is all very well presented

If Trump was the British politician: This is the worst deal I have ever seen folks. Its bad. So very bad. So not good. 👐

one fact: china sees others as a tribute vassal state unless convinced to think in another way by a war. they think still pretty much same nowadays.

this episode had better animation then the ones in the passed.... also i love the cute little British marines and little Chinese demonstrations.... :)

Fantastic episode!!

Gunboats are terrible. They seem to always end up making trouble in East-Asia.

@LtKharn

8 жыл бұрын

I mean something called a Gunboat is going to make trouble pretty much anywhere. It's what it's built for :p

@Infernal460

8 жыл бұрын

I am the Captin !

@konstancemakjaveli

8 жыл бұрын

Make your country not closed!

@wingracer1614

8 жыл бұрын

So if a country decides to stop trading with the outside world, it should be invaded and it's population slaughtered? Ok, time for Europe to invade Britain.

@konstancemakjaveli

8 жыл бұрын

+wingracer 16 yes

Oh china. You have the most powerful force in the world bearing down on you and you shout for more war...

@frankhill4358

8 жыл бұрын

Well to be fair both sides messed up with mixed signals that led to more war

@wingracer1614

8 жыл бұрын

Most powerful Navy. Could you imagine what a nightmare it would have been if the British tried a full on land invasion of the whole country? They tried that once in America too (actually twice by this point), didn't turn out so well then. China would have been a disaster. Never get involved in a land war in Asia.

@magikmann3952

8 жыл бұрын

Frank Hill Still the emperor is given a favorable peace treaty and declines

@Fatortu

8 жыл бұрын

They couldn't possibly conceive they weren't the most powerful empire in the world. They had been the most advanced empire for the two previous millenia. Only the few Chinese that had to fight the British could understand that they weren't usual tribute barbars.

@brainstem46

8 жыл бұрын

@Fatortu ok, but surely they could have been clued in by looking at the capability of the British ships and weapons. The British were able to travel the world for trade and expansion, but I don't think the Chinese could with their smaller ships. The Chinese just thought they could still negotiate from a position of power? Both sides of the conflict don't look very good in this part of history.

ph my gosh yay a third episode! thank you guys! and everyone rlse who can and actually did support this episode...xD

A very interesting chapter in history indeed !!

so basically war continued because pride.

This makes me think of trump not Walpole

I really hope to see more history content in the future. :D

I wish I knew how to quit you!!! I mean, damn guys you make the start of a series so interesting then have us wait a week to see what happens next, it's torture cause it's so damn good.

We don't have a WAR, we have a WA

@finemernop7201

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't that mean dwarf in chinese

At first I was slightly more sympathetic towards the Chinese since the British were technically the aggressors but seeing how both dealt with peace terms that benefit all by firing the peacemakers, can't side with anyone now.

@izanagitco9435

5 жыл бұрын

You deserve a beer🍺

"... but don't worry about Qishan he's fine" HE WALKS AMONG US

I can't wait for the next episode, i feel that there gonna be a slaugheter