FIRST LOOK: Yaesu FT-710 AESS, Live Radio Operation
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I have a Yaesu FT-710 in my hands for some live radio operation. So far, it's very easy to get on the air and operate! Bring your questions, we'll be taking them live! Thanks to Ham Radio Outlet for sending this demo unit for me to take a look at!
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During Ham Radio Outlet Superfest in Milwaukee Wisconsin radios are in stock. John Kruk with Yaesu team providing education with demonstration of radio. Optional SCU-LAN10 education with demonstration during event.
@robertdec3713
Жыл бұрын
This radio probably has the same disadvantages as FTDX10 and FTDX101. YAESU, please, do this: - introduce averaging of spectrum scope (and if it's required - remove 3DSS waterfall - it is completely useless) - to speed up antenna tunning; most tuners on the market works much much faster (algorithm is not optimal) - radio should not shift the frequency when changing modulation between AM FM USB LSB. Only changing to CW should shift frequency (700Hz) With this amendments all FTDX radios and FT710 will become much better.
@YaesuUSAOfficial
Жыл бұрын
@@robertdec3713 In regards to averaging YAESU engineering has studied the pros and cons regarding the suitability of Averaging applied to our FTDX-101/10 and scope design. We understand the theory, that Averaging calms down the noise level display. This theory might be the reason behind the wrong impression that weak signals could be visible by the Averaging function. However, we have concluded that the visual performance in terms of the noise level is slight, especially in a small display. Most importantly, averaging would sacrifice the ability to find the small signals in a noisy environment, which is not optimum for HF operation. In summary, we believe searching for small signals is the more important over smoothing out the small display screen by the Averaging function. For this reason, we have decided not to include the averaging function in the radio, though we do make it available in the remote operation on the SCU-LAN10 PC.
@robertdec3713
Жыл бұрын
@@YaesuUSAOfficial Let me have a different opinion - now, in this chaos on spectrum (I'm not talking about waterfall) weak signals vanish, especially when they are short-lived. I emphasize - the waterfall itself is OK. So maybe not "averaging" just "hanging"? Please don't get me wrong - FTDX101/10 are great radios and I'm not going to change them. I just want to improve what is almost perfect :) Thanks for answer, 73!
Great Job Thanks. I bought this over the IC 7300 because of the Mouse and Exterior Monitor as I have vision trouble. Thanks
Really appreciate your smart, objective evaluation. The ICOM Vs Yaesu or ... is so simplistic. Good job!
Great video. I'm a uk foundation licence guy but actually trained to kinda what would have been tge old class B licence. You needed morse to be class A IIRC. Well I do morse. Trained in that too. Trained in radio teletype psk qpsk, bpsk and other data modes... so rather than being a starter with no clue.. i actually understand all of this video. Phew.. after not doing radio since 1994.. I'm on the up big time.. and as an IT geek, that helps too.. and qualified in electronics n electrical eng. So... this video is just what I need to make decisions on my first transceiver since CB, building my own 11m antennas in 1987. I've been rx only since 88 cos of my job, then career change. Cheers n beers 73s from M7XNR
Thanks! Somewhat new to the hobby. Was debating between a few radios. Finally pulled the trigger on the FT-710. This video helped a lot.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
I’m DEFINITELY dumping my IC 7300. It is old, old technology and moving up to the 100% SDR Yaesu 710. It is a remarkable value!
Definitely a cool rig - thanks for sharing!
I would not call this an entry level radio. SDR has changed the game.
man this is truly a good video to learn a little bit for sure.. thank you..
@HamRadioCrashCourse
7 ай бұрын
Just a little??
This radio just turned my FT 450D into a boat anchor.
Knob wobble was my nickname in college
Nice video, Better than most of the Demos on this radio.
Happy holiday Josh let me check this new radio out 👍
Thanks so much for this video. Very detailed. So much has changed since you made this. The price has gone down as you predicted. Now supported by WSJT-X. Updated firmware for better DNR. Can't wait to give RTTY a try :-)
I see you re an olight customer too! Great stuff!
This looks like the replacement for the FT-450 as the entry level radio.
@suou7938
Жыл бұрын
probably. currently 710 costs way more than what 450 costed near the end of its production, but apparently the initial price of 450 was exactly the same as 710 in JPY, 150000 yen. hope 710 will one day be as cheap as 450 used to be
I’m always looking for a new radio to play with, but I think i will go turn on my dx 10 or my 991a Thanks for the video.
It made #4 on the Sherwood Table 10/02/2022)!
#4 on Sherwood List :)
No thanks, i'll keep my venerable Icom 756 Pro3. Has a great receive, decent filters, and a great band scope. Unless you are a contester that demands the very best in specs, your older rigs will suit you just fine!
its a cool radio the FT-710 AESS, it's basically in the same range as the IC-7300, straight SDR. The FTDX-10 is a much better radio.
Great collection of personal viewpoints. I'm in the market now for a new HF/6M rig. Need to "go to class" on SDR radios. One comment implied there are one or two general disadvantages in the architecture compared to old man Armstrong's approach. Casual mention of the StepIR antenna is important. My (borderline brilliant) question: Which of these radios, if any, performs noticeably better than the others in real-world situation (1) using an inverted V antenna in the suburbs and (2) using a hung-in-a-tree dipole or portable vertical antenna to do Parks on the Air in the woods somewhere?
I like it but not so keen on the 3D display and DVI. Considering I don't have a HF radio yet, I would consider it for the right price. :)
@Ei2iP
Жыл бұрын
3D display is a gimmick, I've the ftdx101 and scopes on yaesu are poor.
@YaesuUSAOfficial
Жыл бұрын
3DSS is option and can be turned off. This feature enjoyed by many to see time reference to signal.
Hey Josh great job on getting one of the first decent videos on this rig out there, really appreciate the effort you put into being first past the post with these. Is this a radio you could use for drive up pota, what are your thoughts?
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. This would work well for a drive up!
@lonewolfhamradio
Жыл бұрын
@@HamRadioCrashCourse any tips on sneaking new gear past the wife?
@jimmeeGray
Жыл бұрын
@@lonewolfhamradio yes, have it labeled "free" or "gift" on the outside of the box
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
@@lonewolfhamradio smuggled in a trash bag.
@m0aze611
Жыл бұрын
My station master has a special radar that detects new things. To be fair she encourages me to just do it….
Your voice level is really high in the mix compared to the volume of the radio. I had to keep changing the volume throughout the video as you went between the radio audio and your voice audio. I need to turn my volume up to hear the radio, but then as soon as you start narrating it comes booming out too loud and I have to turn the volume down again. Would be a much smoother/easier watch if you can get the levels more evenly matched. Still enjoyed it though. Thanks for the content 🙏⭐⭐⭐
I have the FTDX-10 and can spot a number of significant advantages of it over this 710. Unless the street price comes in under 1K I don't see the point of this lower feature model that is only slightly smaller. People keep referring the the FTDX-10 list price but I don't know anyone who paid more than $1300 as the FTDX-10 is always on sale. I think we need to wait and see how pricing plays out.
@seanwieland9763
Жыл бұрын
Everyone’s been comparing the discount FTDX10 price of $1400 to the opening day price of the FT710 of $1300, but I bet by Black Friday the 710 is also discounted down to $1000.
@Blake-jl8lh
Жыл бұрын
I think once they get the intial hype sales it will, like almost all yeasu rigs, always be on some kind of sale. I also expect that we will see it match the 7300 in price. Everyone seems to forget the 7300 is priced at 1250 right now. 50 dollars more for a newer radio with what we will probably see is a better receiver is not that wild. There are even a few more creature comforts than the 7300 has like external display and USB input.
@xjohn1970
Жыл бұрын
@@Blake-jl8lh 7300 is $1149. the FT-710 is in the same class. straight SDR with no extras. FTDX-10 is the way to go, its A level higher Radio than the FT-710 & IC-7300.
Can you let me know which kind of T/R switching is used? Are there relays and PIN diodes for switching in between TX and RX please?
i prefer the dual controls on my 10 for shift and width
8:52 Get! Get! Get out!
In your video as well as HRO's video I noticed that your voice on the Power out meter barely moved over 10 watts, I know it is not peak reading but I would think it would be more than that. My 991A will hit the 100 watt mark, and so does my FT-2000 on my voice peaks. Have you checked it on an external meter? Is your Mic gain down?
Josh - if you get a moment.. Do you know if you can squirt the audio OUT the back both TX and RX for streaming..? [that's how I like it so folks hear my SSB bandwidth]
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know. It was a demo unit.
I was happy to return my FT-710 after comparing it to my FT-1000MP. Both RX and TX were much better and richer sounding on the good old FT-1000MP! The newer tech douse sport a spectrum analizer and small footprint and weight. I was really looking for a performer and running contest stations for the last 35 years for me this is not it. I feel for POTA or other portable operation's This would be a great rig. I am not on a budget and this is a budget radio in my opinion.
Got on love it cannot find a antenna
Thanks for the first look. Maybe this fits a niche in some other market, but I'm struggling to see what problem this radio is designed to solve. It's very big and clunky for a field radio, at least compared to something like a 891. The 3:1 tuner isn't going to be enough for all field antennas. The manual says it has a 2.2A current draw on receive... The 991A crowd is turned off by the lack of VHF/UHF. If you want a big SDR HF-only radio for the field, the IC7300 is cheaper. If you need a base station radio for the QTH, why not just get a FTdx-10 for essentially the same price? I'm not sure why they felt the need the design a "budget FTdx-10" that's not actually budget. I wish they had put a better tuner or a second antenna hookup or VHF/UHF or really any other useful feature into the radio besides that external speaker...
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
It’s a smaller sized beginner hf radio. You could say it’s a successor to the 450. It’s come a long way, but still.
@N4XTL
Жыл бұрын
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Perhaps, but it's $1299. An FTdx10 is currently available for .... $1299. Why wouldn't the beginner just step up to the intermediate radio for the same price? I get that the FTdx-10 price is affected by coupons and the 710 might fall in price, but the prices currently at launch are what they are. And will the 710 actually go down in price over time, in the current manufacturing environment? Many people expected the IC-705 to go down in price after launch, and it went UP! In my perfect world Yaesu would have made a G90 killer, not a baby FTdx10 that's the same price as an FTdx10.
@maschwerer
Жыл бұрын
I agree. This radio doesn’t make sense. This should have been the 991A replacement. Instead they give us a radio no one asked for. If nothing else, how about a VHF/UHF version of the FTdx-10 for a full-spectrum shack that already owns a FTdx-10. 🤦🏻♂️
@Blake-jl8lh
Жыл бұрын
50 dollars more the the 7300 with what is very likely a better receiver. The ability to have an external display as well as USB input. It's a direct competitor to the 7300
@n9eerptr
Жыл бұрын
Most of the rigs with built in tuners only tune 3:1, even my IC7610. I like you would like something better although I do use antennas that are cut close so the built in tuners do work for me. So many do add ext tuners like the LDG that do work very well, 10:1 tuning range.
Does it have display averaging?…. If not, like the other Yaesu hybrids, then no thanks
This is the 991a when I already have a ftm500 hellp
I was just really disappointed in the placement of the ZIN button on top. Instead stead of it being placed on the front. That is if your stacking your gear. I'm sure those that are used to the Yaesu FT-857D and similar styles rigs. It's no big deal at all. Or just a little time spent using the FT-710, a person will get used to it. Just like the closeness of the buttons on the FTDX10. For those of us night Owls. Waiting to see how good the receiver and filters are. Is there an option for the 300Hz Roofing filters? Thanks de KK4YLF 73's
So a question about the AESS speaker... is this just a normal speaker with a hi pass filter and the AESS uses the radio speaker as a Low pass filter... ?
I really miss the decode feathers of the dx10
The DNR on the FTdx-10 is quite capable of getting rid of MOST of the noise when used in conjunction with the RF Gain and the preamp at IPO. The 710 sounded like it had a lot of noise on the net. I'm surprised the DNR on the 710 does not seem to be as good as the DNR on the 10. So far, if I had it to do over again, I agree with you...I would buy a 10 again. 73
@YaesuUSAOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Concept of FT-710 AESS is not using Band Pass Filtering with Roofing Filter. Instead using Band Pass Filtering with Ditheting, DSP, and audio acoustic properties.
@Bdub1952
Жыл бұрын
@@YaesuUSAOfficial would appreciate a choice for roofing filters for AM on the next FTDX10 update. I was astounded to learn that AM is limited to 12khz and 6 khz bandwidth with only a 12khz roofing filter available for AM on my new FTDX10. This should be addressed, it's a big issue for AM fans.
@xjohn1970
Жыл бұрын
FTDX-10 is a better radio. the FT-710 is all SDR as the IC-7300 is.
@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed
Жыл бұрын
@@YaesuUSAOfficial Hello Yaesu, is it still unsafe to use DVI to HDMI coverters on the FT DX 10 due to radio damage posibility? Got mine a few months ago and havent used the output yet because all in my house is HDMI
@n9eerptr
Жыл бұрын
@@xjohn1970 Yes, but the IC7300 is direct sampling, the FTDX10 and FT710 are older tech of beating the incoming sig down to IF and then doing IF DSP. Only issue with direct sampling is it is more easily can get front end over loaded. But does not add noise to the signal as the IF DSP does. I have FTDX10 and IC7300, IC7300 has more operational features, but I like both rigs. I see no reason for the FT710, is nice rig and if going with DX10 or 710 either will serve one well, IMHO.
Does the Yaesu FT-710 AESS have a swr scan like on the 7300
I hear myself at the 23:00 Mark. I see where everyone says I sound a little "Off" My voice is a little high pitched in this video. Guess I will have to work on that. KN4COE
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
It does sound a bit off now that you mention it.
For me it is incomprehensible why only one antenna connection is installed in a device that covers such a large frequency range, although there is enough space in the housing. Simply a NOGO. Regards DH1KJ
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
You generally only need multiple antenna ports when your radios is dual receiver/transceiver.
@jochenkrebs9685
Жыл бұрын
@@HamRadioCrashCourse OK, so you use 1 antenna for all bands that the device can do. Absolute nonsense, of course it makes sense to have 2 or more antenna connections on a TRX. Simply for the convenience of switching antennas directly on the TRX and not via lousy external switches. Even my old FT847 had 2 connections for HF and 6m and 2m and 70cm extra each. So it works if the manufacturers want to do it. 73 DH1KJ
@michaelzehrfeld7766
Жыл бұрын
@@jochenkrebs9685 Don´t forget that the FT 710 is just a HF/6-Meter-TRX......no VHF/UHF included. So it´s not necessary to have more than one antenna connector....
@gonebamboo4116
Жыл бұрын
Glad I read this. New rigs are tempting but I'm sick of touch screens. I'll be happier with a 590; separate rcv ant. input, jacks for key & paddle, etc.
On Air Recording Playback TX ????????? Please do a video on how to set up the radio to PTT when playing back a recorded QSO....with software setup for PC
Does the FTDX10 have the ability to define lower AND upper band edge limits? Thanks
Hey bro, is that the Olight on top of the radio? It looks pretty nice and I’m getting excited to get one.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
8 ай бұрын
It is.
@MrTommy001
6 ай бұрын
What is an Olight? I was looking at that 'globe' and wondering what it was.
My hats off to ya! For sharing this GREAT INFORMATION! However, most if not all of it' glazed right over the top of me head. Kinda like when the news on tv is Spanish only, yet you find yourself blankly watchin in a trance, watching it. With the same effort one could learn just like speaking a foreign language or writing some python with some javascript.. thanks, I need to go find an hour i just lost.. bwahaha
Yaesu please add panadapter averaging!
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
John Kruk mentioned the new Yaesu network device support averaging.
@sas7388
Жыл бұрын
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Explain please
I have the dx10 and the991a . i'm trying to figure a way to justify getting theft710
What are the best settings for Xmit audio?
I only have Knob wobble on the multi-function knobs (push buttons on the left), no knob wobble on the right hand ones?
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
Ok. I only had the demo unit to test.
What was the thinking behind the DVI port and not going with a hdmi or mini hdmi or even USB-c?
@RF_Burns
Жыл бұрын
They don't want to pay for the HDMI licencing fee?
@cameronmelvin9640
Жыл бұрын
HDMI/USB-C include audio. As the external display is only video, DVI makes sense. Not saying it was the best choice, I would have preferred HDMI or USB-C, only that from an engineering perspective it makes sense.
@bradleyjohnson452
Жыл бұрын
@@cameronmelvin9640 other than the other two options are more widely accepted.
I still cannot see why the fT710, Yaesu has the FTDX10. DX10 slightly larger, similar features although I do like the one knob on the DX10 for adjusting IF bandwidth. FT710 this is multi-function knob. Both the FTDX10 nd FT710 are nice rigs. Thanks for your excellent video, but do ask why a FT710 with already the FTDX10.
@waynemueller1760
Жыл бұрын
So the Sherwood test on the FT710 is out and the results are basically the same as those for the FTDX10. So what does the FTDX10 have over the FT710 that justifies the extra $200? I have owned an FTDX10 since Dec 2021.
So is this thing going to be able to get on LSB 27mhz?
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
Maybe if you mars mod it.
Very sad, no big box top of the line YaESU radio being offered. This leaves only I see IC-7851 which is more like a laboratory test instrument as well as a ham rig. It is the only big box top of the line ham rig I see, even Kenwood seems to have stopped selling there big box, TS990s. Where is yaESU???????????
looks like Josh is borrowing teh radio from the HRO video. Edit -- :( no chat replay option.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
Yes I did. Go buy one from HRO.
No back-lit controls. That's a major deal breaker for me.
PLAY WITH THE DNR, CONTOUR, ETC TO BRING IN SSB BETTER
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
I did. 👍
I'd much rather they made a new 700usd HF transceiver like the IC718.
how does the 710 compare to the 7300 with respect to being a good "new Ham" radio. better or worse. Why?
I have a DX10 and it’s great but I’ll ask a more generic question for Yaesu, there is more than one computer operating system out there so why do you keep ignoring Mac OS?
@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed
Жыл бұрын
Im gona be harsh, Mac development sucks. Use Linux or Windows
@m0aze611
Жыл бұрын
@@UndercastEsmeganitrospeeddon’t see what that has to do with my comment. Elecraft are capable!
@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed
Жыл бұрын
@@m0aze611 I was answering the *Why do you keep ignoring MacOS* part
@m0aze611
Жыл бұрын
@@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed thanks for clarifying
@RogerWilco486
Жыл бұрын
@@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed Linux all the way!
Just a quick question, what antenna are you using with this radio?
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
Steppir three element with a 40 meter dipole.
Meh....IDK. I would be impressed at a much lower price point.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
I expect it to come down.
@Blake-jl8lh
Жыл бұрын
It's on par with the current price of the 7300
Shame you skated over the rf gain control? I believe the rf gain control is as important as af control , and more important than all the digital noise reduction put together ? Or at least it should be ? My icom ic 7300 rf gain control is absolutely rubbish. The dx10 works great , my old ic 746 , ic 7200 ic 781 ,ic 703 ,ft 3000 , ft817 , kenwood ts870 and 480hx all have great rf gain control but pure sdr rf gain is mostly junk ? In a noisy static crashing top band or 80m a good working rf gain is invaluable. Sadly my ic 7300 is a good all round rig apart from a horrendous rf gain control. My other SDR Xiegu g90 and Xiegu x6100 is also rubbish rf gain control. Anxious to find out if the rf gain on this ft710 is just like the ftdx10 which is just fine or a pile of rubbish like the ic 7300 and ic7610 ? All the back-light and waterfall is of little intrest if the most important controls are useless .
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think I skated over it. It’s a dial. I demonstrated it goes up and down and reduces incoming rf. What you see on the waterfall is not commensurate to what you hear as they are different sdrs.
@robduncan599
Жыл бұрын
@@HamRadioCrashCourse ok you didn't skate over it .you demonstrate it goes up and down. Thanks that's great .
Looks like an alarm clock.
One of these radios was left with me in early may of this year, 2023. It was left with me when the owner wanted me to examine it for any quick repair I can put into it. He did not want to go through the inconvenience of shipping back to Yaesu. However, after he left it, I have not heard from him at all. Both his telephone number and cellular number are disconnected. The emails go unanswered. The radio has been protected and guarded by me since he left it. I have been very tempted to connect it to listen to it. All I have for an antenna is a very long length of wire hoisted up a very tall flagpole. But, that is all I need to listen. I have been tempted to unbox it. There is nothing wrong with it. All I found were bad settings. It is not my radio. But, it is in my guardianship.
Don't like the 3d waterfal
@MrTommy001
6 ай бұрын
Then use the 2D waterfall.
OK, I'm at a loss here, you "Knob Wobbled" every knob except the BIG KNOB??!!... why.
Good video. Seems like a 991A without the VHF/UHF capability. My first impression is it's very "plastic" looking. Not impressed.
@Blake-jl8lh
Жыл бұрын
The body of the radio has nothing to do with the receiver at all, but hey I guess we all have different priorities
@gregembury3510
Жыл бұрын
@@Blake-jl8lh When you're spending $1200 plus, and if you're a serious ham, aesthetics matter.
@Blake-jl8lh
Жыл бұрын
@@gregembury3510 but receiver REALLY MATTERS and idk it's looks like all the icons and yeasus in the past 2 decade's had a plastic face
Josh I'll be honest with you it's a low-end radio it's cheaply made I think the icom 7300 is way better and it's around the same ballpark in price a 7300 as a much better radio that's my opinion 👍
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
You may be right on the quality of parts. But consider the Sherwood report before you decide on performance.
The display looks washed out and not sharp.
2D is so much better
Well it's no 7300 killer that's for sure. And the point of this transceiver is ??
Icom does DNR much better... comparing my IC-7300 to my FT-991... Icon is much more natural sounding, to the point i leave it on all the time. The 991 I only used it as a last resort...
@diabolo3506
Жыл бұрын
DNR on 9 is better for Yaesu FT991.
@matthew.tamasco
Жыл бұрын
Comparing the DNR on a 7300 to a 991 is comparing two totally different radio types. Compare the 7300 to the hybrid FTDX-10 and you will see a better comparison.
@Blake-jl8lh
Жыл бұрын
The 991 doesn't have the best receiver quality but I'm not sure why you'd expect this radio to be similar to that at all? It's a different architecture entirely
8 to 9 pounds of noise on 40mtrs. Yuck!
@creepingmee
Жыл бұрын
pounds?
@RF_Burns
Жыл бұрын
pounds??
John kruk has been showing off this radio all week? So not really a 1st look
@HamRadioCrashCourse
Жыл бұрын
Do you think it maters?
@YaesuUSAOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Chad as John Kruk has been answering any questions. Maybe John can come on here for discussion.
@tonyd6884
Жыл бұрын
@@YaesuUSAOfficial That would be awesome!
Dear, Pop pop pop not very cool AF GAIN Start AT 9 o clock to much level . Booo
Another HF radio, another Yaesu, no thanks 😑
a piece of junk .. total waste .. you couldn't give it to me free !!! I will take the FT-101EE over this radio any day icom 7300 as well .. junk .. wobley knobs
Great video! de W2CSI