Seriously? Taking out the floor mats isn’t exactly clever engineering. The best way to make a car lighter is to stop making it bigger!!!!

@karlrasur8356

2 жыл бұрын

lets just make a "sportcar" with Info/Entertainmentsystem , Navi, Parkingsensor everywhere, Heated Seats &&&&&

@007surly

2 жыл бұрын

@@imGeistevereint 🤣🤣

@ertugrulbae46

2 жыл бұрын

No...we need to save the 500 grams or so per floor mat. Its absolutely necessary. If it was me..I'd remove the doors...bootlid, rear bumper, front bonnet too...passenger seat isn't necessary...neither are the windows...u know what? Screw the seats altogether..the plastic garden ones work fine

@lanista78

2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit man, genius! Why don't apply for a job at BMW?

@xXAlmdudlerXx

2 жыл бұрын

@@ertugrulbae46 Windows are necessary for aerodynamics. Without the car would be lighter but significantly slower

To me it just proves how good and legendary e46 is

@Angry_Squirrel555

2 жыл бұрын

No, the E30 is legendary. The E46 was just a great car.

@jayem8981

2 жыл бұрын

You dudes still waxing poetic about some outdated tech? How bout a discussion about how great the horse and buggy was. How it was what really started it all and this M4 is a cheap imitation?

@jw6188

2 жыл бұрын

@@Angry_Squirrel555 Yeah the BMW Dixie was legendary. The E30 was just a great car. I don't know why they stopped making the E30. *eyeroll*

@irvinsalazar7378

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayem8981 People dont realize how hard it will be to set 7:15 on those older cars lol.

@carlchambers3985

2 жыл бұрын

ive got an immaculate one that i only drive in the summer, surprisingly, they haven't aged well when it comes to drivability. They're decent but way behind what you remember them to be

As much as I like the modern technology in this car I would still prefer the E46 M3 CSL. Absolute timeless design

@antoniohinojos3808

2 жыл бұрын

Have you not seen the improvements made to every single piece of linkage? Nah mate...

@damiendegrasse

2 жыл бұрын

@@LilBunny6077 He didn't say that... "I would still prefer the E46 M3 CSL"

@LilBunny6077

2 жыл бұрын

@@damiendegrasse sorry I replied the wrong comment 😅

@vedantkothari215

2 жыл бұрын

@@antoniohinojos3808 sometimes too good is too uninteresting..but each for their own

@antoniohinojos3808

2 жыл бұрын

@@vedantkothari215 I agree theres a certain element you’ll never get back but for its purpose it’s unmatched.

I love the retro badges. You can keep the rest of it. 1625+ kilos, automatic gearbox, soft limiter. CSL my ass.

@pauldavies7251

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣so true they can only dream of producing a lightweight sports car like Porsche or an AMG black series BMW need 2 up they're game

@TheChannel1978

2 жыл бұрын

@@pauldavies7251 Was the i4 not a carbon chassis? You would think for a CSL car BMW would have tried to apply some of those lessons learnt and actually lighten the chassis. But no.

@benbennit

2 жыл бұрын

Plus an engine as soft as cheese, knowing BMW reliability.

@thisnthat4318

2 жыл бұрын

Just an excuse to charge fools a tonne of money

@papa_pt

2 жыл бұрын

@@benbennit nah that's the one thing they've gotten better at. The b58/S58 have proven to be pretty bulletproof

I don’t know how these guys can take themselves seriously talking about lightweight

@robc1014

2 жыл бұрын

*glances at lotus exige on the driveway* “this is what bmw call lightweight?! 😂”

@gmain1977

2 жыл бұрын

@@robc1014 exactly, the new M4 heavier than one it replaces by 100kg then BMW to remove 100kg from this one and call it lightweight and will charge silly money. All they had to do is make the M4 lighter from the start

@TheCraigy83

2 жыл бұрын

they want the youth to carry on the steel racket , more mass = more materials = more cash...sell you a lump of metal then buy it back in a decade for £100 scrap value...guv owns the scrap yards....tvr & lotus & BAC & Caterham etc dont want any part of it

@MT-eb2dx

2 жыл бұрын

"Look, we made the car bigger heavier and then lighter again but overall heavier, and we charge an arm and a log for it"

@nightdriver7216

2 жыл бұрын

It's lightweight in comparison with the regular model. Not absolute lightweight. For that we have plastic aluminum RC toy sized cars like the Elise.

Those laser wire rear tail lights are really beautiful. Still getting used to the front grill, but overall, i like it and would buy this machine

@bo_matt

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that laser wire is beautiful. I’m also digging the red outlined emblems and duck tail.

@michaelbradley3448

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know if I'll ever come around to that front grill 😢 and i LOVE BMW

@Ivan_2201

2 жыл бұрын

How long has this car been out I think we'll never get used to the front

@erikb8877

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t get past the grill

@nicholashansen1477

2 жыл бұрын

lol... what does that even mean, you WOULD buy this machine?? that you WOULD if you had the money, but don't? then your arguement is absolutely pointless.

13 seconds quicker than the current BMW M5 CS !?!?! That’s massive!

Would be cool if they made an enthusiast centered model. RWD, manual, cut out a lot of the tech and focus on fun rather then numbers

@longsleevethong1457

2 жыл бұрын

Like the Miata?

@carter3082

2 жыл бұрын

@@longsleevethong1457 Do you think the Miata should be the only RWD, manual car on the market?

@abdulrahmanmalzamil5787

2 жыл бұрын

The current M2 is just that. Fingers crossed the next M2 maintains that recipe.

@vedantkothari215

2 жыл бұрын

@@abdulrahmanmalzamil5787 it is, the g87 is rwd and manual :)

@K1ngfunK

2 жыл бұрын

BMW makes the Supra after all...

Speaking of removable headrests for more helmet space.. can you remove the weird piece on the seat between your legs for more 'helmet' space? 😅

@stickky1012

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@codyedsall9459

2 жыл бұрын

You don't need it. There's plenty of space between "Your legs". Lol... jk jk.

@chawenhalo0089

2 жыл бұрын

😂👍

@thandogama3863

2 жыл бұрын

pilchtastic no that's for massaging balls while you're lapping 😂

@elimondingwiza3168

2 жыл бұрын

This comment is ELITE

The CSL's grill will sell like hot cakes, many M4 owners will for sure get it

@rylfazle

2 жыл бұрын

Then realize its stupid to use it on normal road cuz now you got everything on your radiator

@LieutenantDan

2 жыл бұрын

Idk a lot of people don’t like having a front plate I don’t think it will look as nice without a plate, let alone a US plate that isn’t the same shape as European

@samsonian

2 жыл бұрын

Still looks like a beaver with extra-buck teeth.

@michaelshaw849

2 жыл бұрын

If you like rocks through your radiator…

@gurrypreet7327

2 жыл бұрын

But it’s limited edition, they only gonna make 1k cars like this.

The Cup R tyres will be a significant part of that lap time. Put the older cars on those tyres and I’m sure the times would be much closer.

@nathanbethell4005

2 жыл бұрын

@BTICronox it’s somewhat lazy journalism to not point this out. Overall I feel they’ve missed a real opportunity here…they could have gone balls out and made this a real statement….and it doesn’t even sound good, that’s a crime! I had a 46csl from 06 to 09 and it was a brilliant but flawed car in lots of ways.

BMW: "We saved 100kg!" Gordon Murray: "Hold my beer..."

It's sad realizing the E46 was 800 pounds lighter than this. "Weight savings"? Sounds like a gimmick if anything.

@XavierGoncalves89

2 жыл бұрын

Competition/track versions of cars that weight close to 1800kg, it's just marketing

@kushtrim6588

2 жыл бұрын

if u get in the car the 100 ponds are back

@cheezykey1139

2 жыл бұрын

you cant make it that light with todays restrictions

@sdmyhussein4680

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheezykey1139 restrictions between now and 2001 are not that different

@chadgrov

2 жыл бұрын

If they didn’t have to adhere to current safety laws all performance cars would be just as light.

i still prefer the M2 6 cylinders and manual Gearbox and of course the old grill

@dedyardana1224

2 жыл бұрын

*WE

@raphaellima9539

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@boymcfacto5832

2 жыл бұрын

@@raphaellima9539 what’s so funny? I’m pretty sure anyone with brains and eyes would prefer the M2

@jackpassfield9141

2 жыл бұрын

These are still inline 6 if I'm not mistaken

@zayyaanwaja7914

2 жыл бұрын

M2 CS is wayy better then this, if you ask me it doesn't deserve a CSL Badge

This was put together brilliantly

This car is absolutely drop dead gorgeous, and with a driving position made in heaven, I wish it just pop up in my garage.

"20 years ago" my goodness it's been 20 years already since the M3 CSL 😭

@misterdre

2 жыл бұрын

exactly what I thought lol

Dear God, look at that grille

I love Top Gear the host always walks off without telling me goodbye, its awesome

BMW executives one morning: “Hey why don’t we make the fastest M car ever?” “Sure why not?”

@MisoElEven

2 жыл бұрын

"Hey why dont we make the ugliest and heaviest M car ever to cater to the Chinese market?" "Sure, why not give them a couple Uyghur muslims in the trunk as a bonus as well?"

@thatonerandomguy8824

2 жыл бұрын

@@MisoElEven you good homie?

@MisoElEven

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatonerandomguy8824 Im good..just wanted to remind everyone that millions of people are currently in concentration camps in "communist" China while China is aparently the most important market for BMW at this very moment

@thatonerandomguy8824

2 жыл бұрын

@@MisoElEven then go free them. This is a video about cars not the problems with the countries. Business cater to whoever gives them the most money. It’s sad at times but it’s true and you can’t control it

The E46csl is a timeless design, that car is aging well and I still prefer it over this thing. But I do like this new one…..

@Soknik01

2 жыл бұрын

Did you look at the car from the front? It's horrific!

@corzinc

2 жыл бұрын

@@Soknik01 it’s definitely different that’s for sure, not as bad as the M3 front end though…..

@dennismichealsm3786

2 жыл бұрын

This one is big and ugly ..

@thewarinside

2 жыл бұрын

M2 coupe comp is sick

@papa_pt

2 жыл бұрын

@@Soknik01 I'm more offended by the Infiniti rear end and lack of Hoffmeister Kink

This thing being light weight and is still 100lbs heavier then my full leather F80 M3

@raphaellima9539

2 жыл бұрын

No problem, more power 🔥🔥🔥

@falcongamer5867

2 жыл бұрын

@@raphaellima9539 less weight is faster everywhere, more power is only for the straight lines

@tidaltidaltidal

2 жыл бұрын

@@raphaellima9539 the real track car is all about weight distribution and handling. That's when you can feel the sensation of the whole car and take control over everything. That's the true art of driving. More horsepower doesn't make a car is track-ready, and it's just boring

@DonLee1980

2 жыл бұрын

that being said, even the basic fat M3 this generation handles MUCH better than the F80 M3, which was quite a mess. At the end, we just want the car to handle well.

@gmain1977

2 жыл бұрын

@@raphaellima9539 no , because car is lightweight. Just because car has more power does not make it lighr

Absolutely love it, what a machine. Shame only 100 are coming to the UK.

When I first saw the E46 M3 CSL, it was love at first sight. I remember telling myself this is the ONE, however, I knew I couldn't afford it being in my mid-twenties at the time. Nevertheless, I wanted to at least get the next best thing so I saved up to buy a used silver grey metallic E46 M3 instead with the hopes of customizing it to make it look a CSL. The funny thing is since it wasn't released in US, and the CSL rims were one of the things that really drew me to the car's design, I had to buy them in the UK through eBay before I even bought the car. That's just how much I was sure I was going to go through with the big purchase. All said and done although I wanted to also buy the CSL trunk spoiler and carbon fiber front fender I ended up just lowering the car a bit with some Eibach performance springs and upgrading to some P Zero Nero tires since I realized that I didn't need do anything more and the way it turned out already exceeded everything I could hope for at the time. I'm sure this CSL is great but the E46 M3 CSL will always be my first love and maybe one day I can actually get the real deal.

I like the duck tail boot lid 👏🏻 colours a bit meh and grilles still very marmite but the body tweaks are decent

Everyone hates the new M4, better dig up a famous badge and slap it on!

@brendonbalow6488

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts as well

There has been a tremendous improvement in the car but at a similar cost. Definitely a wise choice the three-door version, this is when you want to show, among other things, that it can break timers on the track.

GREAT DESIGN. Always love the M design, makes it next Level

I want one as an M3, LOVE the Duck Tail!

@thevolksandthewagenssoutha7569

2 жыл бұрын

I love the M3,,,,i want this in the M3 please

@gianni_schicchi

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you want 4 doors if there’s no rear seat? That would add more weight for the extra hardware, glass and bracing.

If the smallest weight saving is 400 gram they haven't put much effort into it. Watch Top Gear's video about the GMA T50 and you will understand what trying to save weight really means!

@FastDoc23

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but this is a variant of a production luxury sports car and the t.50 is all custom crafted pieces that add up to several million dollars

superb camera work.

I just had a wtf moment when he said the E46 CSL was 20 years ago!!! I proudly owned one and had many amazing summers up in Scotland enjoying it to its full potential on amazing B roads and somehow survived to tell the tale. The sound of the carbon air box at full chat was a thing of beauty and you could literally never get sick of launching it. Summer Crail days out running it up and down the quarter mile followed by track days at Knockhill. Bring back my youth all is forgiven.

@crimsonpirate1710

Жыл бұрын

It was a childhood fav of mine of mine for years. Long may it reign.

I can invite all the relatives and grill some meat on that BMW grill, perpendicular grilling

I think it looks really good and those rear lights are amazing, not sure about the paint job though. A brighter, glossier color would show off the body so much better than flat grey.

@MultiWalrus1

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Matte paint looks terrible on virtually all cars.

@grixessedraxis7267

Жыл бұрын

I call it undercoat grey

Man whatever I love the way it looks Specifically the real lights

Aesthetics on this are incredible.

Wished you asked the engineer why the metal engine brace when the previous gen used carbon

I cant be the only one that hates the new front grille style

@MU-go1fq

2 жыл бұрын

Looks better in real life

@mtho3509

Ай бұрын

Looks great on the CSL

i love the design and the colour scheme they have chosen!!!!

Love the wire back light

It looks like a really interesting and enticing enthusiast car and I thank BMW for making it but just like other recent special BMW M cars strange choices were made. It seems a bit phoned in. They could have improved so many other things easily but as mentioned in the video they just kind of stopped at a nice round number

@Prof.Dr.Diagnose

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree in the weight point. I don’t see where else they could have cut weight. They did, what they were allowed to in my opinion. Much more isn’t really possible due to environment and safety regulations. What if they didn’t stop at the round number but did everything to get to this point? I don’t know 🤷‍♂️

@gmain1977

2 жыл бұрын

No it does not, its car for posers. How can you call a car lightweight when its 1700kg or so. They have made M4 heavy then last one removed 100kg and called it light weight lol

@Prof.Dr.Diagnose

2 жыл бұрын

@@gmain1977 Look at the laptimes it’s able to do. It is not for posers. They probably can’t drive it properly anyways. And i get it, that not everyone likes the new CSL and that’s absolutely fine. But why on earth does it bother you that much? If you don’t like it, don’t buy it… it’s as easy as that

@TheChannel1978

2 жыл бұрын

@@Prof.Dr.Diagnose I think he alludes to the fact that BMW gave up making actually light sports car and instead prefer to make luxury badges and slap CSL badges on it. Fair enough, it's still ludicrous. The L in CSL stands for "Leichtbau", there isn't much leicht about this barge.

@Prof.Dr.Diagnose

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheChannel1978 Yes that’s true. They got heavier, and i don’t like that as well. But it’s based on the M4, which is based on the 4 series. An existing model that has it‘s weight figure. Of course you can’t cut off 300 or 400kg. That’s just not possible. And in this context, the L in CSL is pretty adequate in my opinion. But i agree: I would be happy if they could get their heads out of the sand and build a proper race car.

Finally a new BMW that looks good again. Love the ducktail and the grille actually fits pretty well. Those rear lights look sick too.

@alechall7082

2 жыл бұрын

no

@hassanger8128

2 жыл бұрын

It looks so aggressive and amazing

@dennismichealsm3786

2 жыл бұрын

Take another look at the front lol . I don't see much difference between that and the current m3 m4s or maybe it's just me

@rayraycarter04

2 жыл бұрын

The tail lights are sooo slick

I just loved the yellow “angel eyes” detail !

Epic presentation, love it,

Still heavy, still ugly! The E46 was a beautiful car, and the CSL was even more beautiful. And the that sound?!! Was gloruis! This new One? Sounds rubbish.

@smOOdiebOOdie

2 жыл бұрын

Agree.. yuck!

@misterdre

2 жыл бұрын

E46 timeless and a personal favorite, but times are changing. I like the new G8x personally & the front grille on this CSL version is much more aggressive imo.. The ugliest bit on these cars is the shift lever, again, in my opinion!

@gmain1977

2 жыл бұрын

Yup BMW it seems have got non car guys working for them

@TheWahyuwirawan

2 жыл бұрын

Bmw with its downgrading manner and design. Such a shame for a world class car maker like BMW

Now we need to see the CSL vs GTAM

Absolutely fantastic 😃 now a z4 m comp plz.

All my heart and soul for the E46 M3 CSL

When I sold my R8 I thought about waiting for the CSL. I got a slightly used Giulia GTA instead, absolute dream and I don't regret it a bit after seeing how the CSL turned out. I feel bad for hardcore BMW fans...

@chrisp6044

2 жыл бұрын

GTA is a fantastic machine for sure.

@ForzaMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

@Ouchwitz Summer Camp LLC your name is literally Anti-Semitic. In 2022? I think you are the one who is 11 years old.

@philenchymsejour8018

2 жыл бұрын

Barely hear anyone talk about the GTA. Glad to hear you are enjoying yours

@papa_pt

2 жыл бұрын

good choice why'd you sell the R8 tho

@stormdancer1910

2 жыл бұрын

You're literally 11

Making the grille basically completely open somehow makes it look so much better 😄

It's Absolutely GORGEOUS

Me oh my that rear end with the ducktail wing looks absolutely unbelievable! That grill is still an eye soar imo, but the rear makes up for it

@sswulffable

Жыл бұрын

With a giant motor you need more air flow for cooling ... Probably had to redesign classic grill to accommodate -

I’m not sure how to feel about this car. I think it looks great! I love the seats,paint,headlight and tail lights. But I just don’t like how big it is. And it’s a little too quiet.

Gotta say....I do NOT like the front ends of the new M4's, but THIS is a badass car no doubt!

props to this man explaining gts and csl. but if the gts is for the *track* don't u also want lightness along with aero for it to be the 'fastest' m car BMW can offer. i just find it a bit redundant that he says csl is just for ultimate lightness when a gts can ultimately mean the same thing.

Thank-you for the introduction, that's one very very BAD-ASS CAR

Is it just me that thinks the decals make it look like a worse version of the new Mach 1 Mustang? (Not the Mach-E EV "Mustang" Crossover BTW)

@grahamstefaan

2 жыл бұрын

Agree.

The most impressive weight savings was the 400 grams we got out of the taillights. LMAO

@avery4528

2 жыл бұрын

The car weighs 3600 Ibs and they developed a lighter headlight. Real smart budget allocation

@erixx297

2 жыл бұрын

@@avery4528 Hahah pure marketing stuff, they took out weight where it was cheapest and then moved on to the next cheapest thing...Maybe a bit impressive with carbon hood and trunk spoiler but other than that wtf what a pointless car like everyother "special edition" from M last couple of years...

@MyMostBeautifuCinema

2 жыл бұрын

@Avery - The host asked “What’s the smallest weight saving?” And BMW rep answered the tail lights and stated it is impressive but not “most impressive”. Sorry to be pedantic with the details but just throwing the facts out there.

@liquidscience899

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyMostBeautifuCinema just reading some of the comments on this masterpiece of a BMW is painful. People are so dumb

@Ssh52

2 жыл бұрын

@@liquidscience899 masterpiece how?

Looks Very Beautiful ..

The car colors are amazing

I honestly love it. It is definitely a polarizing design, especially with the red accents, but I think over time it'll grow on a lot of people. I'm not sure if this will have the same status or legacy that the E46 CSL has, but in its own right it is a special car. Also, I have to say I really love those yellow headlight accents when they light up, that's so cool.

Audi called and said they want Nardo grey back

@yoshirc2988

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Audi should shut up, they are way slower than this Bimmer

Those taillights are killer lights!

Yessssss ❤️. I love Top Gear ⚙️ 0-100 in 3.6 sec.? My favorite car. 😍

I owned a Laguna Seca blue e46 for ten years. It was such a great car. Besides the M2, BMW has lost their way and giving this “floor mat lightened” m4 a CSL badge illustrates this point exactly.

The previous GTS , CSL and CS cars looked so much better.

There’s so much I like about this car.

not a true top gear without the legendary trio

Of all the renderings I saw of the 72’ CSL reincarnate, I preferred so many homages to the original over this. I also don’t understand the market segment; who buys this instead of a cayman gt4 rs or an amg gt?

As someone over 100 kilos, I have totally been waiting for this version. Do the seats fit a 110 cm waist?

@robc1014

2 жыл бұрын

Its going to be sold in usa. Of course it will fit a wider human.

@solefreak2

2 жыл бұрын

lose some weight Matthew, will do you a world of good 😁

@W0lf_91

2 жыл бұрын

@@solefreak2 Depends how his body is, height and muscle mass. If he’s 100kg and like 6ft 3 and muscly then he doesn’t need to. Somehow don’t think he is, though 😂

@solefreak2

2 жыл бұрын

@@W0lf_91 🤣😂

Brake lights are beautiful

This looks so nice.

This is a good video, the production quality is stunning. Well done team. Oh, the car, well that is a bloody good. Thanks perfect video.

I like how every time BMW shows the G80/G82, they always drill a front license plate on to dampen the effect, even on this super special CSL. No other high end manufacturer would drill their front bumpers while showing their cars to the media. This is BMW’s tacit admission that they made a gigantic (pun intended) mistake with the front grille but it was too late to interrupt production. On another note, I despise how German manufacturers put Brembos on the front axle and cheap Pep Boys painted steel calipers on the rear axle.

@chrisg4rr377

2 жыл бұрын

Or maybe it's because there's a plinth that the number plate scews onto

@bobbybooshay5854

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on mate

@dontstealmypenguin

2 жыл бұрын

I like it

@baronvonhoughton

2 жыл бұрын

China. They buy more than anyone. No mistake.

@cali_cal

2 жыл бұрын

I love it

Stunning design! I never liked BMWs design but this is absolutely spot on. And that's coming from someone currently owning an Alfa Giulia.

one word: GORGEOS!

I truly can't believe I'm saying this, but that front end has actually kind of grown on me. Looks pretty decent

@damncritics

2 жыл бұрын

It looks OK here because they actually managed to separate the top and bottom halves of the lung grilles.

@EirikHaug

2 жыл бұрын

Hard disagree, I still think it looks so weird. Really is a design you either love or hate.

@aidanjohnson7571

2 жыл бұрын

@@EirikHaugI think the standard car and especially the normal 4 series is quite ugly. This car just works for me somehow with the added styling and aggression

Visually looks like something I'd see in one of the trailer parks near my neighborhood. Typically those decals and uninspiring color combos are reserved for top spec vehicles, such as a corolla with a backwards wing, paired with a spare tire that has 20,000 miles on it. At least they were able to save money using the Dogde Charger hood... ? To be fair though, I never knew you could make a new Mustang look this good. Wait... this is a BMW? How have they fallen so far in design?

@oni4429

2 жыл бұрын

clever way to express your opinion ! huge respect

@MrSuperflydude

2 жыл бұрын

You need a job writing for them 😂

@nickbeckwith6211

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 Well Played Sir

Legend'ry, it is; indeed... It's plenty light enough!

I think the laser light taillights are the coolest part

Honestly I heard a whole lot of nothing when he was explaining the difference from the last gts to this.. especially when he said the gts was lighter still then the “lightweight” model. Seems like a namesake cash grab. Which is fine too I understand it.

@ronin84

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've watched a couple of these interviews so far and this 100% feels like a cash grab. Personally I'm not a fan of the styling outside of the ducktail lid. This M4 model has always looked like a Mustang or A5 to me. Boring. Even with the race bits tacked on.

@jaioncebollero1168

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronin84 yeah performance aside this gen if cars are terrible looking. I don’t care what anyways says, there’s no way.

@omnihein9322

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronin84 if this was a cash grab they wouldn't limit production to 1000 units. They are likely to barely break even with the development price, even with the increased price.

More than £100k ... for that money I’d opt for many other cars like an AMG GTS, Aston vantage, etc.

@ertugrulbae46

2 жыл бұрын

AMG GTS is weak in performance. So is Aston Martin. AMG GT will depreciate worth crap all in 3-5 years..while this will appreciate. It's also way faster on the track and possibly also on quarter mile despite being RWD

@simnatercroc4385

2 жыл бұрын

This car is an investment the price will go up as time goes.. but I know AMG gts and Aston vantage are cooler but I'd take this M4 I respect your opinion 💯

@rg6982

2 жыл бұрын

AMG GTS?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@hassanger8128

2 жыл бұрын

No one cares. All 1000 units are already sold out. In a few years, the value of this car will be ten fold the current one. Go buy your Merc

@papa_pt

2 жыл бұрын

@@hassanger8128 definitely not ten fold there's nothing that special about this compared to the regular M4. M4 GTS prices aren't looking too great rn either

On my dream car list

Looks good !

Way too heavy. It's arguably too heavy even if it was a standard m4 comp. God knows how they justified the csl badge.

@Jeff_Klein

2 жыл бұрын

A desperate measure to try to make people like this generation. A Failed attempt it seems.

@ThrottleBody

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jeff_Klein Exactly. This surely makes the e46 m3 csl even more desirable and valuable.

@falcongamer5867

2 жыл бұрын

It also looks just like an m4 but with a lip spoiler, nothing else like wide fenders, cool spoiler and such

@papa_pt

2 жыл бұрын

marketing department

@DaNy-CS

2 жыл бұрын

Just check the Nurburgring times of this new CSL and you will see how..."heavy" it is 🤭

Way to miss the point again, the one complaint about the E46 CSL was the gearbox, and still they refuse to put a proper manual in a LIGHTWEIGHT special. He said himself that the GTS was a track model, this is a lightweight model, so it should be about driving experience not outright speed. It should also have no air con, no radio, no door trim, manual windows, and even an open dash as at least options. On the bright side, that grille looks way better without the ugly sensors and panneling of the other buckteethed cars, and the rear end looks great with the ducktail and new lights. I also like the badge.

@imGeistevereint

2 жыл бұрын

But the dual cluth transmission doesnt weigh more than a manual gearbox and they are trying to make it as fast as possible so dual clutch is the way to go.

@tommywang8229

2 жыл бұрын

So the CSL you want is basically a car that doesn’t sell and make the company lose money. No one with the right mind will spend so much money on a car that doesn’t have Air con and power windows in 2022. Just because you want to focus on driving doesn’t mean we all need go back to the stone age. Don’t forget last time BMW make the M4 GTS, a car that doesn’t had a glovebox and need to fill up water every time before you drive it. And the result is people and medias don’t like it. I think BMW got it right this time. When costumers said they want a race car, they don’t actually want a race car. They want a car that looks and goes like a race car but still had comfortable equipment and modern technology.

@DefinitelyNotEmma

2 жыл бұрын

I agree mostly but power windows nowadays are lighter

@erixx297

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommywang8229 Yepp exactly! People want to have a car that looks like a track day weapon aka "race car" and then they go buy milk or drive around in town to impress other people. Because if people would want a real track day car to actually drive at the track they would buy a Porsche GT3...

@erixx297

2 жыл бұрын

@@imGeistevereint DCT is around 50 %heavier than manual (box vs box)... Some DCT are even heavier than automatics. But seems BMW to worried about the future to make a new DCT unfortunately....

Anyone know where to get the BMW M hoody Dirk is wearing? Must have to work for the M division to get some of these jackets. They always have the best apparel.

Does it still have the radiator that cracks after 60k miles and the valley pan that fails? I sure hope so .. I'm very nostalgic over those.

Is there an option to have it painted, rather than left in primer? Or is that part of the weight saving too? 😉

It's so overtalked but the new 3s and 4 series look so much better with a registration plate on. This special edition is absolutely beautiful.

@hamzawiblue3157

2 жыл бұрын

yeah , registeration plate do really make it better, i wonder why fam

@ITFNBiteBayKon

2 жыл бұрын

Tell me you need to get your eyes tested without telling me you need to get your eyes tested...

@donCALLAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@ITFNBiteBayKon it's grown on me so much, I saw an M4 in person and I thought it was stunning.

@topg2820

2 жыл бұрын

The Registration plate helps to split the huge ass Grille, that's why the lighter colours look better on this car since the contrast is increased

@sawyoutube9279

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that the numberplate makes it look better speaks for itself...😂 BMW fan here, but BWM lately it's just not it...

GR Yaris also has a carbon roof and aluminum doors. Pretty standard nowadays.

the carbon center console is dope

Looks like a mustang from some angles

@slow330xi3

2 жыл бұрын

German version of muscle cars so yeah u pretty on point with that observation

Making the same mistake as last time, offering it only with an Automatic. If the “CSL” badge really stood for light weight, wouldn’t it make sense to at least offer it with a manual? Cool car sure, but the last M4 GTS was around 300 lb (135kg) lighter than this CSL. What gives?

@ardonjr

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. How can you make a. track. focused ultra light car... without a manual? Swapping an automatic for a manual gearbox, That would save weight... instead of losing the floormats.

Absolutely gorgeous!

I love the yellow lights

It’s amazing how top gear doesn’t even film in 4K when channels that have been around a few years and aren’t on cable tv do.

@pennymarketenjoyer898

2 жыл бұрын

Lol thats what i noticed as well. They probably shoot a lot more footage than what actually gets in the cut, and they dont bother with 4k... Still strange tho. Even carwow with their sony a7s3-s shoot 4k 🤣

I very much doubt this is quicker or faster than the M5 CS

@benjaminpeter10

2 жыл бұрын

It is. Fastest production BMW Nürburgring time

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks

2 жыл бұрын

Even if it was faster. I'd still rather have the M5 CS.

@Tony11442

2 жыл бұрын

On a track it is faster than an M5 CS because it's around 200 kilos lighter.

I love this design

The updated grill has grown on me, and really like the tailights led design. These new cars people can argue they aren't pure as the old ones, the bigger dimensions, increase in weight and all other add ons due to regulations. But people will sure miss them when most cars get electric.

@SILENTIMACT74

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I also think that bold design is beloved by some and despised by others but no one can refute that the model will be recognizable and unique.

@nightdriver7216

2 жыл бұрын

Cars we have today are the pinnacle. Only complaints come from boomers and kids.