Great video as always, glad to see you doing videos again.

Thank you for the better quality sound! It's nice being able to hear everything you say clearly 👍🏻👍🏻

Thank you for clearing up a very misunderstood topic. As always thanks for sharing many dog and owners also are great full.

Thank you for breaking down the steps...now I can see that I need to mark specifically, funny thing, before your vid, I thought I was! This really really helps. Love it! 😍 👍 🐕🐕🐕🐕

Not boring at all Larry. I used this exact method to collar condition my service dog. Only correction she has had has been to stop severe Pica and chasing behaviour. Now I just use the beep/pager if she thinks of chasing. Correction on level 5. Without it she'd have been killed for chasing everything like industrial mowers. Now she is off lead/leash and no chasing or Pica. My Vets support my use of the e collar as it was used correctly and to stop her making bad choices. Her training is beautiful and she is a happy, healthy, responsive dog. Thanks Larry. You are the best advocate for e collars I know of : )

Please don't stop doing this videos - I'll never get tired of them! And still learn a thing or two every time.

THIS is soooo important to learn in THIS way. Bravo to you. I am passing this along to all my working dog owner friends.

I've watched a lot of these E collar videos, and this is the best one yet!

I look forward to all your videos and will definitely watch all your stuff no matter how many times you are putting it out there. I know you probably get tired of repeating but you are doing the e collar tool a great service not to mention dogs and people. Thanks.

I don't think it's boring..it's so useful for people like me.

Keep up the great work., husband and I are currently in training ( refresshing our skills) before we get our next dog. Thanks

I tried it this way just now and it works like a charm, thank you so much

Lil update, just had first e-collar session with my 10 mo old lab mix n my 6 mo old boarder collie mix, kept it short with each one, had fun and once l get better with buttons, we should be humming! I got a collar before l heard your recommendation for the mini educator, but still was very pleased with results right out of the shoot! Blessings n many thanks!!

Thank you so much, I loved the way you used this ! I just started today with my 1 yr old pit bull I am so glad I found this ( I did it right )I will watch your others and learn more.

Splort! Now I’m picturing a naked cat wearing a rib-eye steak! I got the e-collar so my dog could be off leash but I could have a safety net. Times I have used it include: at the beach on a windy day because the dog couldn’t hear me, when she spotted a deer in the park and took off after it, when she decided she didn’t like the look of a bicyclist or jogger speeding through the off leash park, while hiking in the mountains to teach her ‘stay on the trail’. All done with the vibrate mode, except for twice when she was in prey drive. Those needed a 7 stim. I also taught my dog sitter how to use the collar so they can have dog park time together. My sitter says mine is the *only* dog she can take to the park off leash.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge Larry

Thankyou for all your videos i learn so much and am able to teach to my doberman puppy, God bless you

I start my training with E Collar on Wednesday. If it fits for me I sure will become an advocate for this type training . From what I see, it just makes sense!

@trailridingbogan6987

2 жыл бұрын

howd you go?

Love your methods! Great job!!

After 4.5 years of having my dog, and some behavioral issues. I just began using an e collar two days ago, both at home and outside and have already began noticing a huge difference in his response to commands. With the help of your videos and I just ordered your book as well, I hope that him and I can soon understand each other and be on common grounds. Thanks, Larry!

Awesome stuff, there are some bad training videos on you tube but none on your channel. cant wait to read your book

99% of the comments here are positive ... why the constant defensive justifications ?... just teach it ... we enjoy it. great content.

I just bought your book about e collar training! *^* I can’t wait to get it

Really love your style and presentation. You almost lost me at the comment “radical left” - not sure why you had to say that - there are plenty of people out there on what you call the radical left who are great dog people who believe like I do in good training period. Why keep dividing instead of joining people together loving and training dogs. I’ll keep watching as you have a good style just avoid the editorial to make this even better. Thanks for your sharing.

@aaronmeyer6244

Жыл бұрын

I do t think he would of mentioned it if there wasn't a proportional higher percentage of them trying ban them. I don't think he is trying to divide anyone, it's always the people on the far sides doing that both sides. Being center I see it all the time, what I do notice is one side doesn't want to hear anything but there current ideology. If we are going to stop being so polarized we need to listen to each other. It's the people from the extremes that need to straighten out.😂

@bikerider22280

Жыл бұрын

He kind of saved it with what he said at the end, but why he had to include the “radical left” comment I don’t understand. It was a very informative video and didn’t need that comment.

@dontlook8748

4 ай бұрын

Becoz People’s on the left are stupid

Larry is the zen master of e-collar training. I started following his training etiquette several years ago with my Rottweiler puppy Logan and following the methodology in his book I was able to develop a trust and a bond with Logan that was truly amazing. He’s a big strong determined rottie that can enjoy his freedom and safety at a level I would have never thought was possible prior to implementing Larry’s methods. Thanks for all you do. For those of us that are diligent with our training a truly beautiful relationship can be attained. This has been an absolute game changer in training and growing happy healthy dogs. Thank you Larry Krohn, I would love to meet you one day and express my sincere appreciation for the e-collar training and advocacy you’ve pioneered. Much much respect Larry, keep doing what you do!

@brucefrance6551

Жыл бұрын

Hi Adam. I’m curious as to what age you started the training. My girl is 6 months and loves training. I’m eager to get her started. She is well versed in basic commands. Also how is Logan currently and are you still using the collar. Thanks.

@shiftnsix

Жыл бұрын

@@brucefrance6551 I introduced the e-collar at around 6 months. If your pup is responsive to training and eager at 6 months, I think it’s a great time to get started. The key is taking it very slowly and at the lowest stimulation level that she responds to. I now have a girl as well and she was less receptive to the e collar at first. But now she’s a pro too. Different dog, different temperament equals different approach. There are a number of methods you can implement to train your dog with the e collar. Larry’s methods have been the best by far. Just remember baby steps. Test the collar on your wrist and you’ll see that it’s barely palpable at around 8-12 and most dogs will respond in that range. Test it when your pup is relaxed and watch for an ear twitch (like a fly landing on it) type of faint ear twitch and try to stick to that low level. I’ve only had to use high levels on a few occasions when his safety was at risk. Logan is now 4 years old and he’s an AKC good citizen. I don’t need the e collar for the most part for him to respond to commands now. But I still use it religiously when we are out off leash. It’s nice to know it’s there when you need it. That said though, there is no substitute for pinch collar training early on. You need to commingle the collars for a while (food rewards lots of praise etc) and eventually you can transition to strictly e-collar, and eventually with years of obedience your girl should get conditioned to the point where she just listens. You need to learn as much as your girl does so take it easy, be patient and the relationship will grown in time. Best of luck to you Bruce, and congratulations on the new puppy! If you haven’t bought Larry’s book yet, I highly recommend it. You can learn all you need from his KZread videos, but the book ties it all together in a really concise way. You will make mistakes, don’t beat yourself up over them. In the long run you’re gunna cultivate a truly wonderful relationship with your dog if you stay diligent and keep learning.

Gorgeous dog.. good job..

Very helpful video. I have an ecollar but am educating myself before using it. Thanks for this!

Another great video Mr. Krohn I’ve always enjoyed watching your videos, keep up the good work. Just an idea to show people when you press the remote instead of a sound box I would sync a second receiver and place it in front of the camera so that people would see the light go on when you press for stimulation.

Totally fantastic video. Thank you so much.

You’re great, thank you for all the information for people who have no clue.

good to see a german shepherd without a horrible rear back end like the ones created by american show breeders.

Great Video Larry. Excellent use of E'collar. Do you also leave the E'collar on him for long periods for him to get used to it and to avoid collar awareness in the dog? I'm new to E'collar so apologies if I'm missing a point

Really enjoyed your video--until...I am a lefty and like tools used properly. Beautifully done to explain the use of the e collar.

This type of training could one day save his life, Larry great video! What kennel bred that dog ? Really nice

He looks exactly like my 6 month old girl. I wonder if he came from the same breeder in Nashville ❤️ gorgeous pup

Hello and thanks for a great series of introductions videos to e-collar training. If I understand you correctly you want to mark the recall with your positive marker as soon as the dog has turned towards you and made it clear that the recall commando is going to be executed. Your explanation is that you do that to build speed and motivation to come as fast as possible, correct? I see that some other trainers that I respect to a great deal mark the recall POST completion of the commando when the dog is already as close as desired or in a specific position. Any comments or feedback to why your way is better? I am just about to start and would appreciate some feedback on this specific point, thanks.

Hi Larry, thank you for sharing your Videos great help for us . question do you press on the E collar before the come? or at the same time? Thank you!

@kelhoff11

4 жыл бұрын

Does he hold the vibration the whole time until dogs come?

Thanks Larry! Love your videos! Have you trained a Caucasian Shepherd before? Any tips if possible?

I watch you like I'm in church! I am a 59 year old female with a 100lb 9 month old 1/2 dane, 1/2 st. bernard puppy. I have watched you over and over so I can learn to teach my girl how to behave, not pull me down and not run into traffic. She is still growing so I must start now. She is such a love bug and does listen to some commands, when she wants. I dream of walking her off lease but first she needs to behave on leash. I have had her since she was 7 weeks old and have never mastered the art of leash training, you truely have a gift Larry. I did look into a e-collar training course and it is 600 dollars for 4, one hour sessions. It does include the e-collar but I just don't have that kind of money. If I can't learn it to teach her, I will have to save some money because I want her to listen and be safe. Thank you Larry.............Mary

@nickkopf206

4 жыл бұрын

Mary Palmer very motivational Mary love seeing positive feedback from a responsible dog owner. I am an aspiring dog trainer currently at an apprenticeship and every time I see feedback like this it’s motivating to see owner (not just trainers) make a difference in there method and process!

@marypalmer2088

4 жыл бұрын

@@nickkopf206 Thank you. It is so important, we teach our children not to walk into the street, the same applies to my dog. We need to keep them all safe.

Great video , thank you !!!!

Love the video

Your dog is calm. How do I begin with my 1.5 gsd male who is all energy all the time? I'm at my wits end..

I am moderate to left leaning and I 100% support ecollars when used properly 🤷‍♀️

Thank you larry! Could you show us any e collar videos with real distractions after the dog has been conditioned?

@kruegerbnu

4 жыл бұрын

If you pay attention, there are distractions in this video - the dog keeps going to a place to smell something. Pay attention how Larry deals with the distraction. Also, last video with the same gsd, Larry's neighbors are doing stuff that gets the dog distracted - so you can see there as well how he deals distractions.

@protectthewaves432

4 жыл бұрын

If I was walking my reactive dog down the street and she sees another dog that is not going to do anything on the same working level is what I'm getting at. If she blows up and the e collar fails how do I handle it?

@claudiacanales2662

2 жыл бұрын

@@protectthewaves432 i agree with what you are asking. So if I’m walking my dog and the dog runs after a squirrel…how long should i press the ecollar remote? And what if the dog still does not respond??

So I have a question, I have a 2yr Bichon frise who had graduated obedience 5 grades. Very confident, obedient & loves training. I dont want to fix anything just would like your opinion on using with smaller dogs as I dont want to hurt the great relationship we have. Would that mean she needs it on always when off lead or do you use just while the training is taking place? I am thinking of it as a seat belt..... for safety. Your thoughts on this appreciated.

So do you say come after you give him a stim ? So if he’s not looking at you and he’s turning the other way you will give a little stim and then say come and then will you keep the button down until he turns around and comes or do you let it right up I’m a little lost thank you

ive noticed in your videos that you say you dont have the dog wear the collar around before using it to prevent collar smartness. How do YOU prevent collar smartness?

Good to see that

What food do you use for positive reinforcement, in pouch?

I watch a lot of your videos because I find them very informative and helpful in ecollar training my dogs. That being said, it gets very annoying having to be lectured multiples times in every video about how humane ecollar training is. We got it. That's why were here on your channel watching your videos so we can learn how to use it with our dogs. If we didn't agree with you that it was a humane method of training, we wouldn't be here. Those who think otherwise are the ignorant minority, however loud they may be, and I think it's wrong that you give them as much airtime as you do. Anyone's who's mind is going to change about the ethics of an ecollar will come from the substance of your training methods, not the frequent ranting. Thank you for what you do. You really have taught me a lot about how training and developing healthy relationships with my gsds and I will continue to watch and sub to your channel.

You mention letting go of the stimulation when he first motions to come to you... do you initiate the stimulation before asking him to come, and then let go when he initiates the return?

Thank you!

Classe!!👏👏👏

Hey, I was wondering if it’s okay for me to use my e collar on a high level like a 60-70 for correction if when walking my dog decides to bark or lunge (hackles up) towards another dog or even squirrel.

You do not use the e-collar Chameleon by Martin System ?

Is there any further e collar training for after 10 sessions of Stim Recognition

Do you have a favorite e-collar? How do I know when my dog is ready for the e-collar. Can I use it to stop excessive barking when he's in his dog run and I'm working on the property?

Larry, do you ever use the vibration function on the e collar?

I also live in Kentucky next to Fort Knox. I just got my service dog from K9s For Veterans in Chicago. I travel there for training a lot. Question for you brother. Do you live close to Fort Knox? I need a mentor to help me that lives closer to me if possible. Also great work. I have been watching your videos for a couple months.

@lklencho

4 жыл бұрын

I’m in Bowling Green

@thefluffypoodle

4 жыл бұрын

Ok, if I come down that way I will give you a holler.

Great video. Ecollars are only a tool and like all tools they can be abused. I tell people that scold me to open thier hand and I have them hold it and slowly turn it up. As you know most humans can't even feel it until level 12. Once they feel it almost 95% percent of people then understand. At low training levels it just does feel like a tap. On vicious and bitting dogs I have seen the levels much higher but for those dogs it's that or death. Vicious dogs an, ecollar is a last resort to save the dog's life. It truly is an educational issue. Just bought your book. Looking forward to reading it.

So when do you hit the stimulus before a command or after ?

Naked cat with a ribeye strapped to his back flipping him off with both hands. Thats funny Larry.

I"m watching this but it isn't clear when he's using the remote? When is he using the remote and for how long?

My long haired 2 year old dog didn’t show signs of sensing the e collar until level 11 on the mini educator. Am I the one doing something wrong? Is the collar too loose? I feel like this is too high considering all of your videos have dogs that show signs at 6-8. Thanks!!

@traceymeek1238

4 жыл бұрын

mackwing try tightening the collar and running through the levels again. I assume you’re using the long prongs.

@johngardner2407

4 жыл бұрын

Mackwing I have two dogs ,a 60 lb pit bull that responses to level 5, where as my 40 lb terrier mix needs a level 10 So dogs are different. Just make sure to brush dogs neck and that collar in on firmly ,not loose.

later on when he's off leash will he still listen to you without his e collar on?

Thak u sir

Do i press and say command or command then press?

This guy has his own book?? What!? How am I just now seeing this???

I got it!

Where are you located. Can I send my buddy to you?

Im all for E collars IF used properly . just like the prong. I have used both , after professionaly trained.

Also what age is old enough to begin training

This is the kind of question I would hate if I was you but: What type of “high-value” treat are you using? I want to get something for my dog that he will love to work for.

@andrewthomason3626

4 жыл бұрын

Isaac South try freeze-dried liver, or happy howies

@kicknadeadcat

4 жыл бұрын

I make my own beef jerky using just chop meat and a little salt. I have a jerky gun that puts out long lines of jerky that I cut up into tiny pieces. So he doesn’t get bored with the food I carry three different types of treats. Jerky, string cheese and his normal kibble.

@andrewthomason3626

4 жыл бұрын

Dang, I’d eat that!

@sandybassett7112

3 жыл бұрын

my standard poodle is not terribly food motivated, I use Boulder Dog Food Company, the chicken bits for regular training, bison bits for off-leash -- louie def responds better with the bison. I recommend buying lots of small samples to see which are higher value than others for your dog.

Will this work with 4 year old dogs?

My dog is 9 months and hes trained with the E collar. He's great when hes wearing it and listens, but whenever I take it off of him he becomes a menace. How do I deal with this?

@traceymeek1238

4 жыл бұрын

Greenlightmeango 465 , have you used the intermittent phase? My dog had a teenager phase where she ignored me. More regular obedience training without the collar and some time to grow up did the trick. Mostly I think it was time to mature mentally. Now I just use the e-collar when at the off leash park or hiking in the mountains.

Larry sounds like John Favreu from swingers

Larry, I think you should explain why you use ecollar first then the cue then leash pressure if needed. I understand why you are working on him understanding the collar pressure not teaching the Recall with the Ecollar in theory. Am I correct? I guess my question is what difference have you seen from using ecollar then cue versus Cue then Ecollar?

@robertbaelen5191

4 жыл бұрын

@Doug I think you are a trainer, I don't know either, but You should, I think. And I think also, if You cue your dog first and than give the dog a signal from the e-collar, You soon will give the dog a correction if he doesn't comply, and then the signal is going very quickly going up up up, You are setting yourself up to failure, choosing the wrong path. The right path is, teaching the dog a new signal overlaying older known signals as words , gestures, leash pressure aso. The wrong path is, whatever cue or signal and then forcing with the e-collar, why, not even with the smallest numbers, the path is wrong. Later on, off leash, on greatest distance, you stim - you recall. Or whatever. Sorry but Larry was very clear, very easy to understand, and i am from Belgium.

@DougZaga

4 жыл бұрын

@@robertbaelen5191 Hi Robert very nice to hear from you. In my training the reason why he is using the Ecollar then the cue is to teach the dog how to turn off the pressure. I do not necessarily agree with you if you cue first then stim you will have to punish more. This is used to reinforce or increase speed for positions and obedience but the dog will be taught the behaviors and positions with 100"s of repititions. If you are using working level stim and you are reinforcing behaviors or teaching the dog to turn the pressure of the stim off just differences what you are doing. I understand what Larry is doing I was just suggesting he detail the differences for everyone. Also, Larry is the go to ecollar guru and I would like to hear his opinion. If my training was taught wrong I want to know. 😁👍🏻😁 Again, thanks for commenting. My current, retired old Rottweiler is from the Netherlands, Ter Waele kennel...no too far from your beautiful country.

@lklencho

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Doug I do both in the beginning during the conditioning face. But once the dog is trained then I no longer implement the E Collar before the command. I will talk about that further when I do a video on the Internet and fees. Thanks for suggesting that I will touch on it for sure

@DougZaga

4 жыл бұрын

@@lklencho Awesome. Thanks for the response. Have a great day.

@kicknadeadcat

4 жыл бұрын

For me and my coonhound I use the e collar for training recall from distances that he would not normally be able to hear me because of distractions and distance. He’s only 5 1/2 months old but I have recalled him in the woods from 70 to 80 yards with nothing but a slight stim.

Which e collar should we use?

@traceymeek1238

4 жыл бұрын

Caren Larry often recommends the mini educator by e-collar technologies. It’s about $180.

@Cara-vd7yf

4 жыл бұрын

@@traceymeek1238 Thank you!

Great Video Larry, its unfortunate you have Jeff Gellman on the other hand lighting up dogs for undesirable behaviours. That is what the people who want "shock collars" will point to for their argument.

My pup yelps on the lowest level but completely ignores the beep/vibration 🤦🏻‍♀️🙄

Was helpful until he went off on a tirade about the ‘radical left’ wanting to take away his tools. Other than that, very helpful and will try his tips when training my dog with the e-collar

I always tell my wife to try it on herself first then if it's safe put it on the dog.

Why are there such high levels on the e collar? As I understand those are the levels that uneducated people use without conditioning which often gives the tool a bad rep.

dog is already trained

Yah another video. I thought about getting that ecollar for my poodle. He is so so smart. But id love to train him off leash. I like the ecollar. But that changed my mind about off leash. When I went to the park and someone had their dog there and there's was off leash. Came charging at mine. Mine is 1 1/2 years old. I thought the big dog was wanting to play. Till the owner screamed he is aggressive. So I grabbed my dog by his harness in the nick of time. Why bring your aggressive dog to a park. Said he tries to kill small dogs.

But then again I don’t use the educator I have sport dog 🤦🏻‍♀️

Good video. Appreciate seeing the demonstration. Really don't see the need to bring politics into this though. "Radical left?" Come on man. Do better.

@JoaquinGTP

Жыл бұрын

@kbail9806 There are 2 bills in the entire country that have been proposed, not even passed. In 2 cities. I don't think that justifies blaming it on an invisible boogeyman.

In my country it has been illegal since 1997. I hope this information will spread among the people who make the laws, because the same people blame dogs on their behavior and will decide to euthanize them...

Very hard to understand. Little of explanation. For example: HOW EXACTLY you understood that he FEELS #5?!. I saw no difference. Why he is leashed WHILE trained ?! Of course he'll follow you.

@MrMaybach420

3 жыл бұрын

I understand your frustration

I’m always sorry to hear about my fellow liberals being assholes. Radicals are never right, no matter which side they are on. It’s up to reasonable people to re-learn how to differ. Anyway, your videos are so clear and helpful. I’m a first time dog owner of an Anatolian (dumb, I know but he’s thriving and I’m learning) who is grateful to live in an age of KZread with people like you. Max is 10 months old and just starting this training gives me hope he’ll be off leash before his first year.

You constantly say we are losing dogs because people don't train them. This is false and you've never provided any statistics on what makes a dog stay in the home. Training is one factor, but the quality and type of training a dog receives is variable. There is nothing wrong with your training, but it's very misinforming to say dogs are getting put down because they're not getting trained or not using an ecollar. As long as there is no governing body regulating dog trainers, the chances of people receiving a decent dog trainer is slim. For one, if you put any golden retriever, shepherd mix it will get adopted out soon. You put a pitbull in there? Likely to pts, likely to stay there for months to years+ even if it had no issues. All rescues in my area have no problem adopting out puppies, non-pits within weeks and even street dogs despite behavioral issues. The shelters are stuck with pits and many are pts because they have legit aggro issues that would cost a few thousand in training fees. Pits are a liability and most landlords, places, and towns ban them. Your aunt's chihuahua may not lose its home because aunt loves her dog despite it barks at the mailman every day. Why? Go figure, dog people will deal with many dog problems and some won't. The breed of the dog highly dictates whether it will be passed around in shelters or not. Go to any dog park, you will see the same dogs visit every week and their owners. All these dogs have mishbehaviors, anxiety, Resource guarding, shyness, etc. Why don't they give up their dogs? "we've come a long way" No. Most trainers do not recognize a dog has emotions or tailor training to help a dog fix its emotions. The traditional sit,stay,down, heel,come training can only go so far. Any trainer who thinks teaching a dog to walk nicely on a leash doesn't realize emotions come first. The dog is crazy on leash because it is having a hard time, not because it gives you the middle paw. Free behavior, at liberty, is still a fairly new concept to some, and some I question if that is really what they're doing when they constantly have to tell their dog to "place". Maddie's fund provides more insightful data on what gets a pet adopted than your claims. Training is part of it, but again, training is very inaccessible to many just on cost. A person on working income could possibly foster a dog from the shelter to save cost(and "save" a dog?), but they will not have an extra $200 for ecollar or lessons.

@mikemd2697

4 жыл бұрын

You said "Most trainers do not recognize a dog has emotions or tailor training to help a dog fix its emotions." According to who? You?? You also said "You constantly say we are losing dogs because people don't train them. This is false and you've never provided any statistics on what makes a dog stay in the home." This is false? Again, according to who? You?? "Training is part of it, but again, training is very inaccessible to many just on cost..." Really? You think so little of "people" they can't watch pakmasters videos and do it themselves? People on "working income" can't afford an ecollar? I just bought one for $45 and it works great. Do you really think someone who can't afford a $45 ecollar can afford to own a dog? It costs money to feed them, right? You remind me of CNN, trying to state YOUR opinions as facts while mixing in a few minor details that are obvious. In the meantime you completely miss the point of pakmasters videos. Have a nice day.

Poor German Shepherd.. If you did this in Germany, you could get in jail. There is a fine up to 60.000€, or even three years in jail, for using any kind of e-collar on a dog. Even those that vibrate, or spray water are forbidden, by law. A dog needs to orientate itself on its master, because it wants to. You dont get that by putting on a leash, or even hurting a dog.

@mmmarv

4 жыл бұрын

Ok first youve never put an ecollar on yourself to see how it feels. At 8 it feels like a tingling sensation that catches your attention, according to Larry his is set at 5. Second im not sure where your from but a leash is necessary to walk a dog in most parks in the US due to their sometimes unpredictable behavior. According to your last sentence im guessing you havent watched the video? Im not sure why you think this dog is being hurt?

@dunjak111

4 жыл бұрын

@@mmmarv So, no more comment? No question?

@mmmarv

4 жыл бұрын

I have many questions actually but i purchase Larrys book on ecollar training. Hopefully that will answer many questions. Thanks!

@ibrajimenez2098

3 жыл бұрын

You probably don't believe in shoes either right? They trap the nature of your feet?

@adamkornecki8263

2 жыл бұрын

My dog is 7 months and very obedient. Bought my e collar for safety net for off leash freedom. I disagree and so does Larry. But thank you for voicing your opinion and information about Germany’s insane law.