First 2024 Duramax on the Dyno!
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We’ve got one of the first 2024 GMC Sierra Denali 3500 HD Ultimates in the shop! In Gale's latest video, he runs it on our chassis dyno to see how much of GM’s claimed 25 horsepower increase actually makes it to the wheels. Gale walks through the new truck's beautiful interior and exterior before strapping it onto the dyno. If you’re familiar with powerful diesel trucks you know that peak horsepower isn’t the most important number. Gale explains torque rise using a dyno sheet. This is the vehicle’s lugging ability. Finally, he explains why modern diesel trucks will actually never reach their peak torque thanks to the transmission back-shifting (down-shifting). Performance parts for the 2024 Duramax L5P are now available at bankspower.com with more being released soon.
00:00 intro
00:25 Exterior
01:01 Interior
01:52 Engine
02:42 What we got going on
04:51 Dyno
08:28 Dyno Sheet review
11:05 Conclusion
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Whoever had the idea to make the graph's text fuzzy until Banks put his glasses on gets credit for making me laugh out loud.
He Never fails in fitting some more knowledge between my ears. Even if I'm leaking it faster than it's going in at this point in me life. Thank you, Professor Banks !
@techs1smh13
Жыл бұрын
No chit hu 😂😂😂
@2hotscottpro
Жыл бұрын
Yah he’s awesome!
@slowpoke96Z28
Жыл бұрын
100!!!!
@eflanagan1921
2 ай бұрын
birth to 3 yo +- learning is wfo and then pruning of mental connections until we(me) start losing everything .
Can't get enough of Gale on this channel, he's a national treasure
The numbers going from blurry to sharp when Gale put on his glasses. Nice editing touch! 😂
@CGT80
Жыл бұрын
Slick! I wasn't fully paying attention and wondered why the numbers were blurry.....that is a good one.
OMG, i grew up reading Gales hot rodding books, back when books were a thing, and hes still going strong. I watched this vid with my grandson and he asked me who the old man was? I told him that's not an old man boy, that's a legend.
Great information! Now, please install a Banks CAI, iDash and Derringer on that puppy and run that test again multiple times to show us how the Banks power adders affect the HP and torque levels and that torque rise percentage at different power level settings! I’ve installed those items and a pedal monster on my 2020 L5P but I don’t have a chassis dyno to determine how the combination affects those power levels. It would be really interesting if Gale would show and tell us how, why, and how much these mods can improve the power of this already impressive engine.
Legit Gale is a man after my own heart. Data. Testing and thoughtful modifications along with careful implementation is super helpful
You are on another level Banks! You and your crew are like the NASA of automotive. Thank you for your desire to test, engineer, explain and repeat!
luv the way this bloke explains a dyno
Loved the simple walk through and explaining the numbers and how and why your system is best. I’ve never considered the dyno numbers with hood open or hood closed, but you make an excellent point.
Finally someone talking my language of torque rise, as we have done forever in truck and mining, now I feel at home watching this
Always a learning experience watching his videos.
A classy trustworthy and most knowledgeable guy. Always enjoy your videos, thanks very much for sharing your knowledge.
900ft-lbs of torque at the wheels. That's awesome
@nou8257
Жыл бұрын
my tuned 6.4 powerstroke has pretty much that to the rear wheels and its from 08 with a tune intake and exhaust
@peterdang9475
Жыл бұрын
@@nou8257 This has a warranty to back it and your truck has a prayer to hold it together.
@nou8257
Жыл бұрын
@@peterdang9475 and mine is 100k less
@CGT80
Жыл бұрын
@@nou8257 How much would a truck like yours sell for right now and how much would it cost to bulletproof the engine and trans? I have been there. My parents bought a 2005 f350 6.0 with a partial bulletproof job on the engine, multiple tunes, intake, large free flowing exhaust, etc. and only 75000 miles. It pulled like a beast and I considered buying and building one like it. Instead, I ended up with some good paying work and bought a 2020 Chevy z71 LTZ CCLB with all the extras (same as the high country trucks and same price at $74k sticker and $68k after rebates and a deal from a neighbor in June of 2020). The L5p with the derringer and throttle monster spanks the dually f350 with a hot tune when empty and the L5P tows far nicer. It is never in the wrong gear our out of gears and never runs out of power, towing the same toyhauler and dump trailer with equipment in it. The 6.0 sounds amazing when you get on it but the lack of exhaust smell and how quiet the duramax is while towing even a decent load up steep grades is very nice for long drives with middle aged ears that have been beat over the years. The ride and comfort as well as cameras and all the other features is great. My other pickup, was my daily driver, is a 79 Chevy C20 with a well built 406 SBC and gearvendors overdrive. That ford is great, but if you are willing to spend the money (I didn't already have an older diesel and I do a lot of out of town work) the duramax is a beast with luxury.
@nou8257
Жыл бұрын
@@CGT80 I was offered 30k for my truck couple years ago and I turned it down. the value of something differs to each person and this truck is what I wanted so when I found it I bought it. And there is no bullet proofing that is a very over used term with 6.0's. my truck is a 6.4 and to bullet proof it as you said well its kinda already been done as the emissions system is gone it is what killed those trucks regardless of what a large number of people who have never owned one will yell against them. But to toss a number out there if I just went and put 6.7 steel pistons into my 6.4 did some other upgrades to it i'd say I could do that in the 10-15k range with me doing the majority of the work since I have plenty of tools to take the engine out and disassemble it for the machine shop. I can also go the cheaper route too buy the adapter kit and put a 12v cummins in it for around 10k or less and then it would have one of the best engines ever produced. I tow with my 02 f350 7.3 with a zf6 speed manual trans have easily pulled around 20k with it no real problem just about never have had to leave 6th gear pulling a hill with it vs automatic transmissions which usually die when used for towing and don't know when to shift correctly to use the engines torque. The exhaust smell of a diesel never bothered me. I grew up around diesels and all kinds of cars I prefer the old diesels to the new ones that burn my nose and eyes with their dpf junk espically in regen. But hey the duramax works for you that's great. My old trucks work for my applications pulling my trailers.
Love these updated videos please keep them coming
Love the production quality and b-roll. Even on these simpler films👍
Thank you SOOOOOO much for the audio balancing! I really enjoyed this video, mad respect!!!
This guy is awesome! He has a really good way of explaining everything
Damn I love this channel & Gale. Real science/engineering based numbers/advice & no marketing B/S.
GREAT VIDEO GALE!!! GREAT DYNO AS WELL. GREAT EDUCATION!!! THANKS FOR SHARING! I LEARNED SO MUCH.
Well done Mr Banks. I always enjoy watching your videos and listening to what you have to say when sitting on my couch in Perth Western Australia. Regards
Really interesting. I really hope that Mr Banks and the after market community are gonna come up with something useful for the 3L duramax.
Outstanding! Thank you Mr. Banks!
GB is a badass,awesome he shares with us.
I was watching this on my tv and thinking to myself, is it just me or is Gale freakin awesome? Opened the app n my phone to check. Well, it wasn’t just me. I’ve never owned a diesel and am loving the videos!
Great video! I love his explanations!
Huge gale fan love the work from australia always learning things every video
Once again more great stuff. That new GMC is sharp.
Awesome video thanks for sharing
I hope Gale makes enough money to keep himself living forever. The auto industry needs Gale around for the long haul.
the amazing knowledge from this man.
I just found this channel great info ordering new one.
Gale is such a legend.
Just ordered the 2500HD Chevy LT with Duramax
Gale Banks is the absolute master of engine design! What a legend!
Very informative. Never new there was such thing as torque rise and how aplicable that would be in driving/ towing
Can you do this with the other brand trucks? That would be a great comparison
@marcelo403polo2
Жыл бұрын
following
We love you Gale!!
It is perfectly reasonable that the transmission control does not allow the engine to lug down to peak torque because an engine's peak torque rating is essentially meaningless. It's torque at the wheels that is important and at any given vehicle speed the maximum wheel torque is achieved when the gearing allows the engine to run at its power peak, not the torque peak. The designers of the transmission control know this so they program it to provide the best real-world performance. As Gale correctly said the only time that peak engine torque comes into play is in first gear but that is theoretical in the real world since you'll run out of traction before you run out of engine torque.
Well done. Thank you.
The Legend at it again!
Super thanks for sharing - Mike
Absolutely beautiful truck!
Hell yea keep it coming
Good video,very informative.
Preach on GB. Truth while giving facts.
Would be interesting to see how the dmax compares to a super duty and a ram. Any plans to strap either of those trucks on the rolls?
@JetTech1966
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing.
@G53X0Y0Z0
Жыл бұрын
I would like to also know what they produce from the same dyno.
@lawnchair76
Жыл бұрын
I was looking for any comparison videos too.
@arod6789
Жыл бұрын
Dynod my 2023 ford yesterday. 493hp, 1003tq.
@JetTech1966
Жыл бұрын
@@arod6789 Holy crap! Wow!!
Wow!! That engine is a beast! And it was only stock...
Great info! When will the air intake and monster exhaust be available for the 2024's?
You are on another level Banks!
I like the front end of my HD Ultimate (22-23). Unfortunately they did not install the larger screen but everything else is good to go. The new Duramax is nice with the extra HP. Altyhough mine has plenty.
Good to know that you have to simulate the wind in the air intake
An engineer's engineer! Outstanding information!
Love gale banks, now we just need to see the numbers with a dellringer tune on it😮
DANG !!!!! I will never need a Duramax powered100k Denali but I sure do enjoy seeing this degree of engineering prowess displayed by sir Banks.
Just got mine yesterday
Thank you once again ! ✌🏻👍🏻🇨🇦🤘.
I have 3 more years with my 2021Chevy 3500 Duramax. I can't wait to se what they have by then!
So much wisdom!!
6:22 I can attest to that, I recently pulled 20k up a 10 degree incline at a landfill in Texas while in 4 wheel drive low and it can stay at 1600 in 1st or 2nd gear if you throttle it just right but the beautiful thing is, the truck doesn’t need to stay there. I climbed that hill many times and usually with at least 18k behind me and more often then not it would shift up to third during the climb. Strong truck.
@dallasbyler2946
Жыл бұрын
If you had a ford you could lug it down to 1600rpm but Chevy and ram don’t offer that with the manual mode
@robertth1955
9 ай бұрын
@@dallasbyler2946 I don't know about the Dodge but my Chevy can be forced to stay in 1st even with the automatic, just shift into manual mode and modulate the throttle to keep it at 1600 rpm.
Well done. Nice.
Thank you prof. Banks! Do you know what the TQ rise is on ram and fords?
I’d love to see a series like this on Ford’s new 6.7 HO!
@arod6789
Жыл бұрын
I dyno'd yesterday. 493hp, 1003tq
@kain4645
9 ай бұрын
At the wheels?
I wonder if the fans could be timed with the dyno so as to provide the same wind speed as what is on the gauge cluster, that would be cool.
@Bootchair
Жыл бұрын
technically could be possible. would require a redesign of both dyno and fan to, probably cost so much to do and probably wont make much difference.
@adammorrison3343
Жыл бұрын
Considering the truck maxes out at 96 or whatever it is, the 60 mph fan is good enough.
The “artwork” on the wood is the topographic relief map of Denali…
One smart guy right there. More real world testing than others do or have.
Awesome!
My 2020 f350 will let me lug back to 1600 no problem. Manual mode makes all the difference. The 2020-22 6.7L makes more than 1000lbft from 1400-2400rpm(at the crank) will be interested to see if you get a 2023 Suoer Duty on your rollers.
@duramaxadventures5832
Жыл бұрын
on GM in manual mode teh ECM can still downshift. just locks out teh upper gears. Ford is the only one with a real "manual" mode. no 3rd gear starts either on Ram or GM.
@einfelder8262
Жыл бұрын
@@duramaxadventures5832 What's wrong with a torque converter lockup mod?
@duramaxadventures5832
Жыл бұрын
@@einfelder8262 i didnt say there was anything wrong. are you sure you are replying to teh correct comment?
@dangogo1129
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see and super duty run as well.
@jnk26
Жыл бұрын
@Duramax Adventures you can lugg the Ford back to 900rpm if you really want to. I always use the engine brake, as it locks the TC and slightly changes the shift schedule. Not as much as tow/haul but it holds gears far better.
Mr banks for president 2024
Mr. Banks is a National Treasure! Is there any chance that you will evaluate the 3.0 Liter Duramax?
Just grabbed a 2024 Denali 3500 dually, Love the Powerstroke, but as long as Ford keeps using a CP4 fuel pump it’s not an option I’m willing to consider.
GMC HD trucks have been looking better and better with ever face lift. This is a gorgeous beast.
@rdallas81
Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@outbacker292
Жыл бұрын
Just seen a '23 Super Duty for the first time today...ugh. The GMC Sierra is the best looking pickup at the moment.
@5.43v
Жыл бұрын
@@outbacker292 agreed, the ford redesign makes the gm look like gold
@SergeyPupkoMusic
Жыл бұрын
@@5.43v just saw a new Ford super duty. The headlight design makes it look bug eyed like the maverick. 🤮
@dallasfrost1996
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, those new Superdutys are ugly as heck!
Any info on the derringer for the 3.0? I would love one of your set ups for it!
Very informative. If a manual transmission option was available, wouldn't the peak torque number be more relevant (usable)? And if so wouldn't this be a nice message to send to the GM Factory regarding a manual option for some configurations?
@thegreenerthemeaner
6 ай бұрын
Emmissions plain and simple. The 10 speed transmission is so the engine can be kept in optimal RPM for Emmission control. The manual transmission version in 2008 for instance was still at LB7 power levels. Auto equipped (LMM) was much higher. Not everyone can drive a manual successfully with todays power pulling 30k and not kill the clutch. Automatics always pull more consistently.
This man is a motor genius
Great work! Hearing protection for the boss would be a good idea. ❤😊
Congratulations, Gale Banks.
Thanks fo the video & test however you and your crew missed a very important aspect to cooling - your big fan works for the radiator and inter-cooler, but its sits too low to be beneficial for the air intake on the hood. My recommendation is if your looking for valid dyno test results, you'll need to jack up the fan unit to include the hoods air intake since this is vitally important when your looking for accurate results. Mike
Dyno the big 3, curious what they put down at the tire.
Are you ever going to make intake products for the 3.0 liter Duramax
Now I just need $100,000.00 and I can utilize this information!
Most people will never understand what horsepower means and will continue to think that only the torque number does work, torque does nothing without rpm and that combination equals horsepower. Horsepower equals how much work you can do in a given time and that's what matters.
itd be interesting see see all of the generations of Duramax dyno tested to see what they are each actually getting to the tires in stock form. then account for hp to weight ratio in the crew cab standard bed 4wd configuration after that to get a real world what your actually feeling number. they keep adding power , and gears and weight , so at the end of the day what are we really feeling after all the losses are added in.
GB is a legend. I wish he was my dad. Please test a Cummins & Powerstroke for comparison, Papa Banks.
When you have the knowledge, you don’t bullshit, you just make a video like this gentleman 👏🏼
what do you think of the power rating of the new HO powerstroke
Need to do this with the high outputs in the cummins and powerstroke
Been watching Dyno runs about as long as they've been airing them to the public. Been a Gearhead since I was in diapers. One of the things I have always questioned is usability. Dyno sheets and max power looks good on paper and they're good for bragging rights BUT they don't tell you how the whole story. It's more of a simplified overview. When they went to Net rating from Gross you got a more accurate view BUT the chassis dyno gets even closer and Gale goes as far as possible to mimic the real world. The hood up or down, and off, thing I believe has more to do with Tuning and cooling than anything else. Not every shop is going to have fans capable of mimicking running 60MPH down the road so they "get it close" and if they're "worth they're salt" they'll road test. MOST shops are going to leave that to the owner for a variety of reasons. Be it time or personnel.
Gale, how does your hp and torque tests relate or compare to the factory ratings? How accurate are the factory numbers?
9:29 Ok, I spit my coffee out dammit! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please, bring more about Class 8 trucks, like Paccar MX 11 or 13. 😊
GB I have a ‘22 3.0 duramax. Would love to see a similar vid in that little guy.
Excellent information! That said, I’d like to see a side by side comparison between this configuration and a lwb dually to show if there is a significant reduction in hp/tq at the wheels because of the longer drivetrain and the additional rotating mass of the dual wheels/tires.
@crezychameau
Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea ! I second that wish ! :D
@mattt525
8 ай бұрын
We all know there is. Commercial chassis tend to be derated significantly
Wow!!
Hey Mr Banks have ya any thoughts on the 7.3? Or minus the epa crap on any diesel?
ill just buy a derringer for my 23. dont want to deal with the potential headaches of new issues with the refresh
doesn't that torque peak help with holding a gear before downshifting when going up a grade? granted you can't hold a gear at the peak at WOT due to the ECM commaning a back shift. or is it all just for marketing and doesn't really matter?
Do they paint them any colors besides white and black haven't seen one if they do
GALE BANKS NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME WITH HIS KNOWLEDGE OF THE NEW DURAMAX IN REAL WORLD NUMBERS ,NO BS HERE BOYS 👍
Please Gale do an episode on exhaust systems and negative pressure waves on VNT diesel engines
@bankspower
Жыл бұрын
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