JB, just bought one of these. Had the discussion with the dealer since the lower ratings made 0 sense given the truck is essentially mechanically identical to a 3500. Dealer ended up calling GM to ask. They stated the truck is the same as a 3500. They lowered the ratings specifically to avoid customers having to pay higher taxes as well as being required to register their truck as a commercial vehicle in states like Arizona. They kept the GVWR and payload/towing capacity low to avoid this. But the truck is very much capable of towing the same as a 3500 SRW, and with similar payload. Now, who knows whether this is 100% true or not (after all the words came from a dealer), but it does make sense from a mechanical standpoint. If it is true, props to GM for helping us stick it to the tax man. Maybe you could call GM and get their take so the rest of us can know?

@bunsguns8222

11 ай бұрын

Makes sense. You can get 10k gvwr rated trucks also so your business doesn't have to get dot #s etc when transporting goods .

@noosh8316

11 ай бұрын

That’s why I stay under 10K GVWR on my truck in PA.

@bryonmartin8463

11 ай бұрын

For what its worth, if you get into a wreck towing more than the truck is officially rated for you may be automatically, legally liable regardless of the actions of the other driver.

Thanks for covering the Max Trailering Pkg v a 1 ton...always a detailed compressive review

Jerry Seiner did an amazing job to get me the exact truck I wanted. I drove to South Jordan from Colorado (outside Denver) to get my AT4 last week. They really came through! Tanner and Skyler are great guys!

The 12k conventional towing only is wild! A salesman told me the truck he had on the lot with this was a mistake... I think not. Gotta watch these numbers for sure. Another fantastic video (and catch!) Happy 4th!

Really good, informative video man!

Just get a 3500, same frame, same suspension and 12100 GVWR plus you get 20s. I like how you hit what exactly this package is.

@teamlomax

9 ай бұрын

Becareful w that as now many insurance companies will not personally insure a truck w 12k gvwr or higher which is why I went w a 2500 w an 11350 gvwr ;)

The bureaucracy didn't know there would be a problem with the max trailer add on to the AT4. Great job spotting the problem.

Great job as usual. Thank you for these videos.

impressive review. Keep up the good work!

That’s weird they do that for the AT4. I guess they are trying to keep the more aggressive tires because I’m pretty sure an AT4 with 20s has atleast the option for the new BFG tires. Anyways for anyone that’s wondering why this package exists and/or the guys saying just get a 3500, here’s the reason: a 3500 GM SRW truck will have a minimum GVWR of 12,100 pounds. If you’re a business owner/operator and you’re using that truck to tow a trailer with a GVWR of 14,000 (very typical weight for an equipment trailer) you will have to have a Class A CDL because your GCWR exceeds 26,000 AND the trailer GVWR exceeds 10,000. That was a complaint from people with the 3500s starting in 2020. So now if you get a 2500 with the max tow package your typical GVWR will be 11,750 (short bed) or 11,900 (long bed) and that will keep you under 26,000 pounds GCWR with the typical 14,000 GVWR equipment trailer. So no CDL and you still have the benefits of a 3500 SRW with the 12” ring gear and overload leaf springs. Now the driver would still need a medical card (DOT card/physical) since the GVWR of the truck exceeds 10,000 pounds but that has always been the case for 3500 trucks unless they were derated to 10,000 which for 2020+ is not an option for a GM 3500. And the other part is for non commercial users that live in states that require special registration and/or non commercial Class A license. This is a way to still get the benefits of a 3500 SRW but to beat the government out of getting more money from you basically.

@BSTatonka

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the explanation. I’ve been looking all over the internet trying to figure this out. It makes perfect sense. Good job thinking outside the box GM!

@matthewanderson9912

6 ай бұрын

@@BSTatonka thanks. I’ve had a cdl for about 18 years now for my job so I know how the laws are. It’s all money racket and this is a good way for owner/operators to get around having to pay to get a cdl. And in my state of KY it is a major process to get a cdl now.

Still a good payload for a 2500. Totally agree with your assessment of who should buy this truck!🇺🇸🇺🇸

@jb Reviews , I just purchased a 24 AT4, love the truck. Did you notice the DEF Injector noise when the engine warmed up? I thought I had a bad valve, but took it too 2 different diesel mechanics (one being a GM) and they said it was normal to hear that..

I just bought a 2024 Sierra 2500 AT4 with the max trailering package and 20". It has the 11750 GVWR with Conventional TWR of 20000

Anything is better than a rainbow raptor. GMC is a man’s truck!

@mrbeaugiant

9 ай бұрын

For now…

@freedomisntfree_44

3 ай бұрын

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@freedomisntfree_44

3 ай бұрын

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JB great videos! You have mentioned in other videos and this video that there is different frames between the 2500 and 3500. I have not seen any info stating that the frames are different. The only info that I have seen is that the rear leaf springs are different between the two and nothing else. Is there something you know of that makes the frames different? Thanks

Love the look of this truck!

Someone at GM didn’t catch this. I think it just boils down to the mud tires not having enough capacity. The 11900 gvwr on the long bed is perfect because you can tow a 14,000 pound gvwr trailer and stay under the 26,000 gvwr where you need a cdl. GM has a great idea here they just need to offer different tires.

@Yeti573

11 ай бұрын

Bingo..... The average Joe doesn't know or realize all the rules and regulations for a CMV

@chosenfew6431

10 ай бұрын

​@@Yeti573😁 You're 💯% correct..

Honestly, thinking 15+ years ago, I remember I went in to a Ford Dealership with my dad. He asked the salesmen what is the difference between F-250/3/4/550… and the guys literally said… “Leaf Springs.” It even applied to the commercial 650/750 chassis. Lol

@fcodxdart1083

3 ай бұрын

I can't vouch for back then but salesman do not know their vehicles. I can ask the same questions at 4 different dealers and get 4 different answers. Most only know how to sell a car and some can't even do that right. I wouldn't even take a sales managers word for anything on the vehicle unless he shows me the source of his info.

They lower the towing capacity to 12000 if you get the QG3 tire package . My 2024 SLT had these mud tires and it lowered the conventional trailer weight to 12000 lbs.

I am thinking of buying a ‘24 3500 l8t SRW but wanted to clarify something. Do you need the “20 wheels to get the 16k conventional towing rating? Or do the 18” wheels still get you to that rating as well?

Enjoy that cloumn shifter I hate the car shifter in my 3.0 duramax!

I ran into this same issue when I bought my 2021 Chevy 2500HD with the midnight edition. The midnight edition came with the same Hankook tires and 18" wheels. Imagine my disappointment when I got my new truck home and checked the door sticker to see it was only rated at 12K max trailer weight. Shame on me for not checking before I bought it. It's a shame that GM chose a tire that derates the towing capacity of a fully capable truck by 6k lbs. A comparably equipped 2500 without those tires can tow 18K lbs. First thing I did was replace those tires. I know this doesn't change the the towing capacity but at least I know the truck itself can tow more than what the door sticker states. My bumper pull toy hauler has a GVWR of 12,800 lbs. I haven't weighed the trailer but I'm sure Im pushing the 12K max of the truck if not over but again, I know the truck itself is capable of the full 18K lbs without those Hankook tires. The truck tows my trailer with ease.

Did you try tilting the steering wheel all the way down so the column shifter wouldn’t block the screen as much?

You nailed this! I am confused, I own a 2021 GMC 2500 HD Duramax Denali 20" wheels Plow Prep and Camper package Not Max Tow my conventional tow rating is 18500 Gooseneck 17700 LBS GVW 11300 sooooo why is this max tow only 12K? How odd!!! My Payload is 3075 standard bed. My GCWR is 26000

I'm looking at a 24 Silverado or Sierra 3500 HD with fifthwheel package, which do you think will pull a new 41RKDB Mobile Suites the best. The numbers will be pretty close.

Your discussion of price vs. features is kind of funny considering that the Denali Ultimate trim doesn’t even have a power adjustable/telescoping steering column. LOL

How about the fact that they relocated the trailer brake controller from center of dash to center console where drivers side cup holder was ? Or that they deleted the 12v receptacle from the dash ? Or they they moved the 4x4 selector down and to the right and now I smack my knee on it when entering the vehicle ? All these things was why I opted for a 23 after test driving a 24 AT4

JB is that frame painted or wax coated? That shot of the leafs looks like paint.

A simple fix for the screen would be for Gm to move screen up and vents below.

I prefer manual mode so it can be driven like a manual shift except without clutch. 🙂

Very interesting

Great video JB. I couldn't agree more with your talking points. If you're going to spend that kinda money, you may as well step up and get the 3500hd and have the payload capability. BTW, the rims on that AT4 are hideous.

@ChaseLandMgmt

Жыл бұрын

Spend the money… it’s $1200 to go from a 2500 to a 3500… on a 70k truck. Only an idiot would pick a 2500 these days. $1200 is a drop in the bucket.

Thank goodness they included tow hooks, towtruck drivers will appreciate those.😅

85k for a truck!! I can’t imagine what the annual excise tax on this rig is. Having to write a check to your local tax collector each year on a truck you already paid too much for and also paid crazy sales tax. Where is the money coming from that folks can buy these? Unreal world right now.

@golfbravowhiskey8669

11 ай бұрын

85 bucks here in Tx each year.

@wydryfly

11 ай бұрын

@@golfbravowhiskey8669 would be about 1300. here in CT.

@jen4739

10 ай бұрын

It's the same "funny money" the government borrows every year without any intention of every paying back. Sooner or later the party will end, people will starve in massive quantities and take to the streets with there guns and ammo. Oh, that's already happening, isn't it?

Wow now that I’ve seen the steering column blocking the screen I can’t unsee it. I looked at a 2500 AT4 and I don’t need or want the extra spring or prep package. I’m only towing a bumper pull trailer with no intention of getting a 5th wheel.

@johnhill2550

Жыл бұрын

Could someone just upgrade the tires to boost up the conventional towing capacity on this truck?

That truck makes absolutely no sense. Heck even my gasser is rated higher for conventional towing. I totally agree JB, that truck is a hard pass. Now you said something about it having the 1 ton frame. I've never read where there was a difference in the frames, only suspensions. That is a new one on me. I'll have to do more research on that. All of the HD diesels since 2020 have had the 12" rear end. The gassers get the 11.5". Great video as always, keep up the great work!!!

@matthewholzmueller6292

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely, if you go to gmc or chevy, and build a 3/4 truck option the max tow and look at the (¡) icon it will tell you for a mere few hundred dollars they provide one ton frame and essentially one leaf spring. I think if you wanted a heavy duty 3/4 ton great. But GVWR is only changed until you purchase a one ton don't be fooled.

Smh! Nice dealer added advertisement badge on the tailgate! 😂

awesome GMC Sierra truck # ❤🇵🇰 as i understand payload capacity is the total weight capacity of the truck #

Just got a 24 denali with the max trailering package. Had a 22 3500 AT4 and had Def system issues from the second month. Only thing on the 24 I don't like is I have accidentally hit the tailgate release button a few times putting stuff in the storage bin under the infotainment system.

@joeinfl5610

11 ай бұрын

they should make it where you have to hold the button for two or three seconds to drop the tailgate from inside the cab.

@seanwieda9770

11 ай бұрын

How does it ride compared to a standard 2500 Denali

@MrSigDan

10 ай бұрын

That's why I went with gas. I don't tow that often where the diesel is needed. Less trouble and cost.

@jesseogden6138

10 ай бұрын

Surprisingly it rides about the same as a regular 2500.

@kirkdunn1379

8 ай бұрын

Heard not much difference between them.....overload is different but that's when it's loaded 3500 are harder to find If you need capacity its no Brainerd Run 500lbs in bed w hen empty if you want a better ride

Just bought an AT4 with max trailering and 20 inch wheels. 11750gvwr 21000 towing Sounds like that dealer made a mistake while ordering that truck

At 2:22, did he say "solid front axle" ???

They’re keeping the gvwr at 11,350 to avoid commercial license plate feee and other requirements (passed11,500 lbs) in a number of states.

So with upgraded tires this truck could tow more conventionally?

My 2024 gmc 2500hd 6.6 gas has 6600 rear axle and 6000 front but gvwr is 10850. Why is that?

Online you can order max trailering package with 20" standard wheels.

My ‘24 AT4 2500 with the max trailering package came with 20” wheels and all terrain tires that are load range E rated. The capacity is the exact same as a 3500 single rear wheel. FYI

@TheReligiousLeft

Жыл бұрын

Ya I think it’s the hankook tires limiting the payload.

@shanehughes9027

Жыл бұрын

I agree with the particular truck he is reviewing. All I’m saying is although I didn’t order the truck I have now, it came with 20” wheels and load rage E tires from the factory. So the 2500 Max trailer package is viable…as long as you don’t get the off road tires. Just to be clear, I’m not disagreeing with @jbreviews. He is correct in his assessment, with this particular truck. I just want people to know you can get the heavier rated tires w/20’s and have the same load ratings as a 3500.

@mikebrooks9223

Жыл бұрын

@shanehughes9027 what is the fifth wheel tongue weight capacity with your max trailering setup?

@shanehughes9027

11 ай бұрын

3250# max tongue weight.

@alexbehlmer9166

10 ай бұрын

@@shanehughes9027 yep... I just got my 24 as well. Exact same. AT4 2500 with NHT. Has the KO3s and 3315 payload 20k on the bumper 21.6k 5th wheel capacity.

does the AT4X only come with 18" wheels?

The fact that they haven’t redesigned those mirrors is amazing to me

@jstanna

11 ай бұрын

The mirrors are a like a pimple on the middle of a beautiful women’s face… lol

Very strange to add heavy springs and frame and the big 12 inch ring gear and then reduce capacity, makes no sense. I don't mind 18 inch wheels because you can run a 295/70R18 and have 4080 lbs capacity per tire and a tire that is 34.5 tall and cheaper than the 20's

I would venture to guess that this wasn't intentional. They should just remove the max tow from the AT4 version. Same as how they do with the trail boss with chevy.

Lmao, I always buy a 2500 speced with the heaviest spring package avalable, ie, snow plow package and camper package, making it a 3500 SRW while insuring a 2500, same frame, same overload springs, just a decal saying its a 2500 HD .

It bothered me big time...lol Screen should've had C8 designed and vents No lighting on floor No turn on and off switch inside bed Front seats are hard when driving long distance. Can't wear my skinny jeans 😂

The max trailering package is only available for the diesel so if you want a gas truck with the Max trailering you have to jump up to a 3500

lol lost the keyless entry on rear doors!! that’s annoying! Love my ‘22 AT4 HD. Little rough for daily driving but towing my ~7-8k pound enclosed car hauler is a breeze. I think my ‘21 AT4 HD with gas motor *seemed* softer riding but everyone tells me I’m nuts. Anyone know if the gas truck would be softer for some reason?

@kirkdunn1379

8 ай бұрын

Gas truck is firmer as motor weighs less... You get one fir comfort and less capacity or vice versa....throw sand bags in back if you want smoother ride

Solid front axle ??? Thought GM did independent front suspension ??? I could be wrong

so would it be a better option to get the at4 3500? I’m planning on upgrading to a larger fifth wheel. I don’t understand if you get the advance trailer package why it would be less on the 2500. I’m kind of confused.

@user-by6qx2uf5q

Жыл бұрын

Definitely go for the 3500, you get the same suspension setup as the Max Trailer Pkg with more capacity on the 3500. Basically the 2500 Max Trailer Pkg is a de rated 3500 not an up rated 2500. And you still get 20s

@Intwodeep902

Жыл бұрын

@@user-by6qx2uf5q sweet thxssss I love the at4 but want to do some hauling and 5th wheel traveling also👊💪🙌

2024 GMC 2500HD AT4 gasser (w/ out "Max Trailering Package" = 10850 GVWR, 26000 lbs GCWR, 16000 lbs Conventional Towing, 18400 Gooseneck Towing, 3378 lbs payload. 20" Goodyear Wrangler Trailrunner AT tires. I'm still not getting why Max Trailering with the 2500 is rated so low? Max Trailering actually = Minimum Trailering package?

I was wondering how this isn't a 3500 with the springs and ring gear upgrade?

@TheOMEGANOX

Жыл бұрын

it is

Some of the used trucks are going for this price. I saw one on ksl 2024 for $119,000. At4.

Did I hear u say solid front axels

So my question is how does this ride compared to a standard 2500 HD. Looking to trade my 23 Denali Duramax on a 24 Denali Ultimate, and it has this package. I am Leary as I cant imagine it will ride as good with the HD Shocks, Extra Leaf, and "3/4" Frame? Wonder if worse came to worse I could remove the extra leaf and put the normal shocks on? Why? I only tow as Bass Boat and want the ride quality, my 23 rides like a 1/2 ton.

@teamlomax

9 ай бұрын

Both have the same rancho shocks ( swapped mine out for Fox 2.0s ) also need to air down tires. The 60f and 70r is too high when not towing...drop to 50f and 50-55r and huge difference

@kirkdunn1379

8 ай бұрын

Tire pressure helps alot

Is the Allison transmission the same in the gas and diesel?

@dallasfrost1996

11 ай бұрын

Yes.

90% of those soccer mom loaded out trucks will never leave the concrete jungle of the city.

Think the video may be out of date.... Just took delivery of my '24 AT4 Duramax.I have the 20" wheels.... with the 11750 GVRW and 20k on the bumper and 21.6 on the gooseneck with the 3315 payload.

@bass685

10 ай бұрын

And that's with the NHT max tow package?

@alexbehlmer9166

9 ай бұрын

@@bass685 yep

I noticed the max tow package has gone up double $

Good thing the raptor isn’t a 3/4 or one ton platform. Took for how many years to finally put a supercharged v8 in the raptor. Calling it the raptor r. Still prefer the TRX. That’s a bad machine. As far as GM and the new platform hd trucks. They still lack in the hp and torque. The Super Doots' optional 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 turbo diesel engine returns for 2023 model year service with its 475 horsepower and 1.050 lb. -ft. of torque at the ready. However, it's now joined by a new High Output variant that cranks the volume up to 500 hp and 1,200 lb. I love the fit and finish on the GMC OVER FORD. wish they put that kinda of attention on the Chevy Silverado platform. I’ll be trading my Chevy for the new GMC soon.

2:22 solid front axle…..I don’t think so.

This dude and his statements . It’s a One Ton that’s derated. I do agree with the title thing though… however a dually one ton is the only thing that makes single wheel hd’s obsolete in the world of LTL. Not trying to be an ass, this is just my opinion. I come from a huge family of truck drivers as well as myself being one for years. I’m not saying tow above your numbers, I’m just saying 3/4 tons trucks used to have 1ton frames now they are slowly growing back to that trend. It saves more money when you only have to build a light duty frame and a hd frame

2025 they need to make the column shifter a stubby

The funny thing is that is not a 2024 they moved the shifter in 2022

Still no adaptive cruise control unless you opt for the Denali watch is total BS considering my daughters base model, Mazda come standard with adaptive cruise control.

@DerekJohnson-us7vy

9 ай бұрын

AT-4 with PPP package has Adaptive CC.

@ThreeBattRanger

4 ай бұрын

My 2024 HD AT4x has adaptive cruise control. My ‘22 HD AT4 did not.

I don’t understand why many dealers are building these Denali trucks with a lowered gvwr of 10k lbs. Why? Who hotshots with a 2500?

Oh it can do it lol. Those are just numbers

Bought my 24 Denali for 77,711 with more options that dealer is a ripoff.

Sounds like GM is trying to build a 7/8 ton truck..... like they back in the early 90's with the "Heavy Half" which was basically a 5/8 ton

When it comes to diesels what’s the point of a 2500 just go 3500 xD ;) ford 3500 here

My first house didn't cost that much. Over a 10 year period the value of my house increased by 35%. That truck will lose 35% as soon as you drive it off the lot.

@woodysrockspyro6436

11 ай бұрын

They lose very little these days. Maybe 5 to 7% a year... maaaybe And they are an expense for businesses. Makes them 30% cheaper.

@ThreeBattRanger

4 ай бұрын

Then don’t buy one, problem solved.

89K for a p/u, insane!!!

Why in the heck is GM removing the smart key buttons off the rear doors? It seriously makes me mad. On my 2019 Silverado I use the buttons on the rear doors almost as much as I use the front ones. But my wife's 2019 malibu doesn't have them on the rear like her 2017 did and it drives me nuts that it doesn't have them. Something as simple as this might make me look at a different brand for my next truck.

@S.to.the.hayna86

10 ай бұрын

@jam471975 we just looked at the new dodges (comparing all makes before making the leap) and they don’t have them on the rear doors either. Not sure if they used to, but it was something I noticed while rest driving

@kylehowell4560

2 ай бұрын

Gmc Is going down hill I bought this truck it's like chinese garbage. My 2017 is far superior.

I'm sorry did you say solid front axle😂

Solid front axle? 2:22

That is a fine looking pickup lol

Your wrong it’s a IFS with torsion bars on the front.

Look like a big Toyota

$85,000.00!! Hilarious 😂

Hey there JB! I’m fixing to buy that same truck very soon but not sure if I’ll buy the one ton version like yours and I may stay with the 3/4 ton…mainly bc I’ll be packing a pop up camper by Northstar in the bed (SC850) and it’s definitely not anywhere close to the weight of the RV trailer as you mentioned. I won’t get a black truck like yours bc I have decided on white due it not showing dirt as bad as a dark colored truck, it’ll stay cooler inside, and, also, it’ll match the white pop up camper I’m buying. But, DAMN the black AT4 looks so pretty though! Great, interesting, and, informative video! Stay safe! ~Jim in Houston,Tx~ kzread.info ?sub_confirmation=1

Dude I wish I would have seen this a couple days ago.. Gmc truck sale are playing dumb about this one and spinning like 2500 is same as 3500 if you have max tow.. Need to print my own damn door sticker. We’ll adjust it to what ever we want. based on the bBULLSHIT cost of these trucks. I’d say we’re justified..

theres a reason the 2500 weight numbers dont match the 3500 numbers. it would defeat the purpose if they did match. its a d.o.t. thing. it allows a 2500 to be a stronger rig to put up with hotshot abuse, while staying under c.d.l. requirements.

2024 Chevy LTZ has a nicer look

There’s a lots of love here with this truck I’ll tell you what keeps me driving a Ford, One word, Visibility , Drive a Ford and then drive this truck. These trucks have become borderline dangerous ,I don’t know who at is Gnm decided the front end of this truck should be five feet tall, it’s ridiculous. You could run over a teenager and not even know it ,the high belt line of these trucks, Combined with a very high hood, and one that does not roll off it’s very squared off, compared to the lowered beltline of a super duty Greatly improved Visibility, And the much lower leading edge of the hood, Ford has a much better view out the front and sides of the truck. I don’t care how many cameras you ahead you can’t look at any of them driving the truck forward and you shouldn’t be.There’s no comparison ,I have three of these new 2023 Chevy’s at work you can’t even check the oil without a ladder with at least two steps. The hood is so high and the engine is way down in the engine apartment. When I park these new trucks next to our older ones, it’s disgusting how tall they made these trucks and for a what? It just creates more wind drag it makes it harder to work on the truck. They didn’t even give it any more ground clearance. I’m very frustrated, because otherwise, I love these trucks. I much prefer the IFS front end , The GM trucks simply drive so much better than a Ford or Ram, They don’t wander on the road or require constant correction like a solid axle truck does.

@ThreeBattRanger

4 ай бұрын

Lololol, let’s see, pedestrian wearing, cross traffic warning, 360 HD vision….no, there is zero vision problem with the GM’s. The camera comment is just ridiculous.if you need a camera driving down the hwy, then you don’t need a truck period. Save a life, drive a mini. The front end alone make the ford and ram look two decades behind the times along with the same body style for way too long. Now drive a ‘24 HD AT4x (had a 22 HD AT4, and there is zero vision issues with all the available sensors and cameras. As for being too short to check the oil w/o a ladder or see over the window seal, oh well, you should’ve been 6’4”. It’s no issue for me. It’s cool though, to each his own

Might as well just buy a 3500...

It's a bit wierd how you make up facts that are simply wrong. If you configure a Ford and a ram and a gm truck as close as possible the gmc is way more expensive. I built this truck on the gmc site and came out to$86k. Built as similar as possible at ford for $78k...

Agreed you get better bang for your buck with GM vs the competition. That said, people buying these trucks are so brand loyal (blind), it won’t make a difference. GM will still be third because of that.

@dallasfrost1996

11 ай бұрын

Third place in what exactly? Sales?

GM WILL HAVE 80 SPEAKERS 2025 LOL

This truck was such a let down. Still shitty brakes shitty exaust brake that ppl try to justify that it works. My 24 has been in the shop 2 weeks already to replace motor mounts. Just placed a order for a 24 superduty . Can’t wait to get rid of this hunk of 12mpg shit

You can’t compare this truck to a 23 F350 diesel. I have owned both a 24 GMC 3500 Duramax and a 23 F350 Power Stroke absolutely destroys the GMC. My 350 checks every box and the GMC left me wanting more for my money. The reason why the Ford cost more money is because it’s worth it!

I bought the 24 at4 duramax 6.6l I love gmc but this is like Chinese trash.

Just don’t buy a 2500 ever. Piss poor payloads.

General Motors downfall is vehicle over 80,000 miles, gm electronics and air conditioning is weak and go out, bad ac, cruise control goes out, turn signal goes out. Great trucks, just sell by 80,000 miles

@matthewanderson9912

11 ай бұрын

You can guarantee it’s for registration and commercial usage purposes. For commercial use it will keep the truck and a 14,000 GVWR trailer under 26,000 GCWR weight which won’t require a CDL. And then for states that have non commercial CDL requirements and special truck registration it will skip that too. A 3500 would not.

and more englisher?