I have a 2024 Silverado 2500HD with the Max Tow Package, and from what I can tell the only reason why GM has this package with the exact same capacities as the 3500HD SRW (Single Rear Wheel) is to take advantage of a loophole in the vehicle registration laws. In many states (including where I live), if you own a 3/4-ton truck you can sign a waiver stating you are not using it as a commercial vehicle, which you CAN'T do with a 1-ton truck. This lowers your registration fees from the higher "commercial" rate to the lower "private" rate. So by keeping this truck under the label of 2500HD I can qualify for the lower registration cost yet still get the capacity of the 3500HD SRW. As far as I can tell, when I spec my truck out online as either a 2500HD with Max Tow or a 3500HD SRW, everything is the same - including the cost - except for the "2500HD" and "3500HD" badges. YMMV.

This was unbelievably helpful. In the market right now! Thank you.

I actually did a comparison from the 2500 to 3500 hd seirra . Putting down all the same options I did find out there was a difference of 1300.00. Using the heavy tow package . So you are absolutely right. . All I can say is get online and find out for yourself.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it.

@pyroman49wedd86

Жыл бұрын

@@automotiveinquiries9673 don’t know why but you think gmc or Chevy would change the badge when ordering a max trailer pkg on a 2500 because it’s a 3500. I may call them and ask them about it . Probably won’t get a answer

Great video, I have this truck with this option and all numbers are spot on. I was shopping for a 3500 and then found this option and jumped on it. Have not maxed it out yet but have great confidence in having that extra capacity.

Good video and lots of new info for us. Now I have some pondering to do since I’m wanting a higher payload towing truck for my camper. Thanks for sharing with us.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely 💯, thanks for being here.

Nice video. I just watched the other video a few minutes ago and the one guy busting you up is just wrong. For 2024 the max tow 2500 mechanically is exactly the same as a 3500 SRW. They have the same rear axle (12” ring gear) with the same weight rating, same leaf spring package with the overload springs and the front axle and suspension is exactly the same even if you get a dually. The front axle rating solely depends on if you have the standard front end, HD front springs/Camper package or snow plow prep package. So with all that said it is my opinion that GM is offering this 2500 max towing package solely for the guys needing/wanting the 3500 rear suspension and 12” ring gear without having to get the 3500’s 12,100 (it may be 12,200 I can’t remember right off) GVWR. The reason that’s important is if you’re towing an equipment trailer it will almost certainly have a 14,000 GVWR rating and previously (2020-2023) any 3500 SRW GM truck towing a 14,000 GVWR trailer would exceed 26,000 pounds GCWR therefore requiring a class A license if using for business and in some states a non commercial class A license. This 2500 max tow will not exceed 26,000 GCWR with that same 14,000 GVWR trailer and therefore the driver wouldn’t need a class A CDL if using for business and the states requiring the non commercial class A license wouldn’t apply. Hope this helps you though. And again just my opinion but I would bet that’s the reasoning behind it.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

That's excellent info and I'm sure that's exactly it. I appreciate your feedback and the post.

@matthewanderson9912

Жыл бұрын

@@automotiveinquiries9673 no problem and you’re welcome. My question I’d like answered is are they going to offer this on the gas trucks. So far the build and price tool forces the diesel option when you select it. I suppose it’s not necessary for the gas trucks because you can already tow a 14,000 GVWR trailer and stay under 26,000, even with a 3500 SRW because they have a lower GVWR than the diesels. But still, I’d pick the package if I were ordering because it seems like a good value and I’m also sure it will help with resale value.

@TheIceStormof1906

11 ай бұрын

@@automotiveinquiries9673ou should update your video. This posters response is the exact reason why. For legal reasons! Also, this is only the case with the 20” wheels on the AT4. If you go with the 18” off road tires, you loose tow capacity. The max trailering package ups your payload to almost 4k which gives you the ability to tow a heavy fifth wheel.

@bass685

10 ай бұрын

@@matthewanderson9912what's the ring gear size in a standard diesel 2500 ?

@matthewanderson9912

10 ай бұрын

@@bass685 11.5”.

You are dead on with this. The NHT Max Tow is basically a de-rated 3500. Everything the same except GVWR/GCWR on the door label. I am picking mine up next week (new company vehicle). I found a rare one (Silverado LT) that has NHT but NOT the 5th Wheel Prep (must have been an early build). It's is only a 100.00 option and I get the 3500 frame, 12" ring gear, and overload springs...with 11,750 GVWR. Was a perfect solution for me as my company only buys 2500's so I am still getting a 3500, Just can't legally use the full capacity.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah, congrats!

@timboshop6806

Жыл бұрын

Can you share what the payload and fifth wheel hitch capacity is on the metal plates

Great video, eh don’t worry about the nay sayers people today think they know all because they read one forum or they have a friend whose 3rd cousin who has experience. But the majority of them couldn’t start a lawnmower. You’ll have haters and people who just like to make your day horrible. But keep making videos and everything will fall into place. Real time information and experience is not common nowadays so keep up the good work

I bought a 2500 HD max trailering package on Monday. Beautiful truck, fifth wheel goes in tomorrow.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Right on, congrats and safe travels.

@timboshop6806

Жыл бұрын

Can you share what the payload and gooseneck hitch weight capacity is on the metal plate

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

@timboshop6806 absolutely, so payload on the 2500 sierra max tow was 3581. Conventional tow was 20000, and the 5th wheel gooseneck was 21600.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

At 4:05 in this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/qnmG1I-LeLucodo.html You can see all the numbers you were looking for.

@cisco1dog

Жыл бұрын

@@timboshop6806 GVWR 11750 Curb Wt 7986 Max Tongue Wt Gooseneck 3240 Max Payload 3764 Max Gooseneck TWt 21600 Max Combined 30000

Just a follow up. Do the package builds and you will see you can save money .. I saved 1366.00 upgrading to 3500 package on a 2500 gmc . It’s crazy to order a 3500 truck just to have a sign that says 3500 on it Just upgrade

My second comment the only difference between a 2500 and 3500 is the frame , springs , axle and shocks it’s basically the same truck. So all these people that are telling it’s not a 3500 is ridiculous. I known this fact for almost 50 years. There almost identical except for what I said above . So get real people and. Yes you can save a bit ordering like the man says

I just traded my 2017 3500 SRW for a 23 3500 DRW truck mostly because I was always overloaded hauling my 35' fifth wheel , partly because of all of my add ons like ranch hand front bumper, 18k winch, aux fuel tank, truck tool box etc. Truck handled everything fine, but know that if I was ever involved in a crash, and it was proved that I was over loaded based on the manufacturer rating, I could loose a lot of money. There are many times that I was right at 13,000 on my truck fully loaded and that was with a GVWR of 11,600. Even with a new 3500 SRW with a GVWR of 12,250, I would have still been over weight. Sure I could have removed some of my add ons and been legal, but I made the hard decision of buying a dually instead. I don't know what the real benefit of having a derated 3500 would actually be with the exception of having bragging rights on the most capable 2500 truck. Getting everything for 100.00 is a great deal though.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely 💯

Don't worry, they will get over it.

One more comment you have to order the 3500HD to get dually wheels . You can’t do it on the 2500 . So you won’t be able to save upgrading to max trailer package. That’s the only flaw . I am ordering a blue 2500 hd with trailer max package. I will be pulling a heavy fifth wheel but not full time . I been debating on dually or single wheels . It’s close to 3000 more for a dually .my fifth wheel gross is 15,000 pounds. What do you think I should do ?

Great detail I am going to be in the market for that truck shortly and was wondering if adding the max tow packing does the truck ride rougher when not towing with the max tow package 12:51

@automotiveinquiries9673

7 ай бұрын

Actually it rides the same as the regular 2500 and 3500. I see zero ride change. The gm trucks, hands down, ride the best.

If you have the frame, springs, and rear end you have a 3500.....they probably increase the torsion bars am guessing as well......its same truck or close enough it won't matter much Odd you would be getting flak over this In today's GM trucks might as well get a 3500 (whether it's max trlr or stamped from the manfctr) as I hear they don't ride while lot different than 2500 and have extra capability, however you don't see as many for same

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Right on. Thanks

I doubt I would have heard about this unique package for quite some time if you had not discovered and brought it up. This package reminds me somewhat of the Ford F250 tremor package in the sense of them using the f350 spring pack with overload and the heavier F350 rear diff housing. I don't know what the ford towing numbers are with their package but I have to wonder if there is some 3/4 ton vs 1 ton get around for insurance or license fees that is prompting both these companies to create this unique capacity package. More choices for the consumer so I can't complain about that.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

That is good thinking, definitely woulld help companies that have drivers required to stay in a non commercial class which some 3500s push into

@michaelbefumo-qg7ji

Жыл бұрын

My maybe the 2500 HD heavy-duty trailering package. Offers the one ton and rear differential with 12 inch ring gear and one con frame, but offers 2500HD torsion bars on front for a better ride

Ram is top dog 🐕

So whats the biggest difference, brakes?

If you don’t believe this guy look under the specs for the weights. NHH pkg means that it’s max trailer pkg. it’s the same as a 3500 HD

People are idiot's, pay no attn....if you haters your doing something right bro....its a good thing

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate that.

Were you able to distinguish any ride comfort differences with the max tow package when you're not towing or loaded? Thanks in advance!

@automotiveinquiries9673

11 ай бұрын

The max row I'm essence is a 1 ton. The gm trucks ride is the best in the segment of hd, loaded or unloaded over the one tons in the market. Handling is better and less sag over all 3. As for 3/4 ton trucks the ram does have a decent ride with the 5 link coil....however the ram 3/4 payload can't even compete with chevy standard or max tow.

@user-gf8iw8ub8o

11 ай бұрын

@@automotiveinquiries9673 Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was wondering if the max towing package on the Sierra 2500 rode more harshly or less comfortably than the non-equipped Sierra 2500 when it is driven without a trailer or load. Thanks for the Great content! And thanks for your quick responses.

@automotiveinquiries9673

11 ай бұрын

@@user-gf8iw8ub8osorry about that.... for sure....it rode the same as the regular 2500 crew with non max tow. Both loaded and unloaded....it's a great package.

I really wish I knew the payload difference between 2500 max tow vs 3500

@EuroCar911

8 ай бұрын

Here is information I found from viewing actual 2024 door jamb stickers: 2500HD LT GAS 3386 payload, 2500HD LT Diesel 3119 payload, 2500HD Diesel w/Max tow 3423 payload. 3500HD LTZ Diesel 3747 payload (may have some due to LTZ trim vs LT) Max pin weights: 2500HD gas 2760, 2500HD diesel 2775, 2500HD Max tow 3240, 3500HD diesel 3240. Note that 3500 has about 340 more payload than 2500 Max tow but they have same Max Pin weight capacities.

While reviewing the max tow package it indicates that you get the HD 3500 frame. I wonder what is the difference between the 2500 frame and 3500 frame? I always thought the HD frames were the same and the leaf spring made the difference between the two.

@2015_Rubicnn

Жыл бұрын

It has always been that way, not sure if something changed.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, in theory i can't believe they make a different frame and I agree, it's always been that way, maybe they did an extra crossmember or something. But it's another thing they can add to the list to make people more interested. I do believe its just the springs and the 12 inch rear end.

If the 2500 with max trailering pack is structurally the same as a 3500, what constitutes the difference in GVWR? And will that effect the tow capacity of the maxed out 2500?

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

It's kinda crazy even the dealers don't know how to explain the max tow. That being said it's my understanding it's the same ratings as a 3500 so I agree nit sure what the different gvwr would be. I drove one a week or so ago and that had the highest 2500 ratings for towing and payload I'd ever seen. I'd get it just to save more money and get more truck.

@user-se5vx9nv5s

5 ай бұрын

From what I understand it is just a legal numbers game. Some places require you to register 3500 hundreds or any vehicle with a GCVWR 12000k or over as commercial vehicles. This is just gives people a legal loop hole to get a “3500” without getting a 3500.

Always gonna be haters. Dont apologize. There is no cure for stupidity. Some people know it all dont ya know

You know GM has an issue with the brake controllers on these heavies?

@automotiveinquiries9673

Ай бұрын

I hadn't heard of that and haven't experienced any issues on the gm, ford, or Ram. That being said,it wouldn't surprise me.

Off subject here. But in an f250 7.3 long bed what gear would be the best? I know vague but it’s between the 3.73 or 4.30. I do not tow a lot if I do it’s my travel trailer. Does it even matter with the 10 speed trans? Adrian

@user-sg2jq2ch7v

Жыл бұрын

What are your TT's specs?

@adrianmilissa9271

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sg2jq2ch7v 30 ft travel trailer. Eventually want to get a fifth wheel but not in the near future

@user-sg2jq2ch7v

Жыл бұрын

Ok. How much dry and wet weight? And terrain you will be towing (I.e. mountains vs flat). How often?

@user-sg2jq2ch7v

Жыл бұрын

Is it also s daily driver? And what percentage are you planning to tow vs not hauling. Also, would you want this truck to also haul a fiver in the future? And what specs on it?

@user-sg2jq2ch7v

Жыл бұрын

Also, what is your typica preferred tow speed? Some folks haul at the full speed limit or beyond, while others will stay as low as 15 percent under the limit.

Can you get max trailering package in a GAS burner?

@automotiveinquiries9673

8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately no, you'd still have to buy a 3500 with the gas to get those higher numbers....it's a bummer.

@Intwodeep902

7 ай бұрын

Is it me or has the price gone from $100 to now close to $1000 for this option?

I will tell you why GM puts out a Max trailering packages. GM no longer is being designed by “car” guys. It is now being designed by computer guys . I own a 24 2500 Duramax. Where are the plug ins for block heaters. Not designed by “car “ engineers. Changed the pucks for the drop in 5th wheel unnecessary. Last GM I buy.

now you got me wondering whats the difference between the two? Is it a payload or GVWR thing?? ... biased on those #'s, why would you ever buy a 3500??

@tomprovenza7857

Жыл бұрын

Yes, For the GVWR & Payload rating on the sticker. That's the only difference.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, keeps it in a lower range probably for commercial vehicle status. But yeah cheaper and same capacity, unless you needed a dually, I don't see why.

I SPENT THREE HOURS AT A DEALER trying explain the tonged weight and how important it is to a driver that needs to know exactly what mytruck can tow and hold because they showed me the crew cab that tows 18500 with a payload limit of 3170# approx. no way can you tow a trailer that weighs 18000# and a avg. tongue weight say 20% 3600# that without anything else in the truck including gear like fuel tank or toolbox. SO! how much does this claim to fame max trailer package have for a payload, because when you drive a living need to know both cannot have towing cap. of 18500# and a payload limit of 3170# just will not work and get you a big fine for being over weight on rear axle at the weigh station. sorry for long but this is important

@automotiveinquiries9673

9 ай бұрын

I'll agree, a lot of sales people aren't really familiar with all that each vehicle packages at. When I took my first one out, they didn't even know if had it. That being said as a gooseneck tongue or pin weight, I'd say at 20%, you would over. The package itself gives tons of extra items besides the 3500 leaf springs. What ive seen as most trailers are averaging 10 to 15 % instead of 20, but that would still be closer. But if the weight is distributed correctly ones trailer could weight 18k and not have a pin weight exceeding the max. Hopefully they took to heart that a customer came in and new more and they get there act together. Well.done on your behalf....but I get the frustration for sure. When I was selling chevy gmc and ram...they sent everyone over to ask questions about the truck specs.

SEMPER FI, DEVIL DOG!!