OTHER DETACHMENT REVIEWS HERE: Vanguard Spearhead - kzread.info/dash/bejne/qJiIm7KEj82-nZs.html First Company - kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIWdsLmPY67aebA.html Firestorm Assault Force - kzread.info/dash/bejne/on9-l5SrZJSxgNo.html Anvil Siege Force - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gpeHvNSKcsqvmJc.html Ironstorm Spearhead - kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6N3k7dsmJm9j9Y.html

As someone who started Salamanders before 10th and is just starting to expand his army, this made me very happy. Not ridiculously broken, but strong enough

Funnily enough, Kayvaan Shrike and a team of Van Vets with the better pistol range really shine here. Rapid ingress in, cant be shot, moves up and shoots at +1S (S9 inferno?!) and then charge in.

Burning Vengeance is pretty hilarious, thematically. Guardman accidentally shoots at a transport, everything just bounces off. Out comes a squads of flamer marines and then just abso-fucking-lutely turns everyone into ash while yelling praise to the Emperor.

@ancientmariner9460

9 ай бұрын

Except they use promethium or something like that and fire was always very deadly against almost everything. Just ask how well tanks do against molotovs and why they avoid city warfare or how's the temperature inside a metal tincan when it's covered in flames. (or how easy it is to breathe when fire uses 100% of air around it to saturate the flames)

@MinscS2

9 ай бұрын

"Never touch a mans ride"

@flipkiller8521

9 ай бұрын

Reminds me of that Russian Police car meme where a bunch of Russian cops menacingly comes out of an SUV.

@mattwilliams811

8 ай бұрын

"praise the Emperor" was hidden behind the Read More section of your comment so I assumed it was just going to be "You scratched my paint!!!"

@ostrava2859

8 ай бұрын

Guardmens shoot vehicle Space mariner:"aight bet"

Another unit I find interesting here is the Brutalis Dreadnought. It is not a transport, but it carries quite a threatening twin-linked Multi-melta that hits on a 3+ natively and still remains a 4+ hit during combat, as well as a rapid-fire 3 heavy stubber that is also twin-linked. You will still want to try to facilitate charge with the Brutalis, but it is a fire platform that really wants to get into close-range.

@tajj7

9 ай бұрын

twin linked generally important anyway with the oaths nerf.

@smexizool

8 ай бұрын

Good for Tank Shock as well

While not necessarily optimal, do consider that this detachment can give Assault to the Demolisher Cannon on a Vindicator! Maybe not competitive, but quite funny! In seriousness, I love this detachment. My Marines are a Salamanders successor, the Dark Krakens, and this detachment will be by far my favorite way to run it

@william9557

9 ай бұрын

DARK KRAKENS REPRESEEEEEENT

At this point all I can do is laugh. Salamanders get an awesome detachment. Everyone loves it, it looks so fun, we’re doing great. Flamestorm Aggressors? Fuck yea dude gimme a full squad of 6. What leader are you gonna give them? The Captain. Captain with what? NOT A FUCKING FLAMESTORM GAUNTLET.

I am building a Black Templars list for this detachment. With all their melta and pyre blasters. It's going to fun, calling it The Heretic Solution, lol.

I play Ultramarines, but this is absolutely going to suit my playstyle so I guess I'm actually a Salamander at heart. Guess it's time to get those Infernus guys painted up!

@TheGraham27

9 ай бұрын

No, you're just a meta chaser lol.

@WilhelmScreamer

9 ай бұрын

The codex begs its followers to remain flexible. Bobby G approves

@keithchristmas7315

9 ай бұрын

@@TheGraham27 buddy, the only place I actually game is at home against my wife's Necrons. I have no meta to chase Some of us just enjoy playing a fun game

@scolack123

9 ай бұрын

And a ton of battle tactics for Guilliman free strat aura

@iron_blyat6815

9 ай бұрын

@@TheGraham27 Warhammer 40k players when someone wants to have fun:

As a Adepta Sororitas player, I can only look on in envy.

@TheGraham27

9 ай бұрын

Salamanders are always #1 when it comes to fire!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@builder969channel6

9 ай бұрын

I mean in open play/home games you could just use the rules and sub out the keywords as necessary

@bandit63delta

8 ай бұрын

Sister have been out flamering and out meltaing Salamanders for a loooong time now. The pendulum has swung slightly back towards center.

@samuelharmssambamsjm269

8 ай бұрын

@bandit63delta not sure on that- SM Melta and Flamer units are so much more efficient than their Adepta Sororitas counterparts in 10th. This detachment puts them on another level.

@bandit63delta

8 ай бұрын

@@samuelharmssambamsjm269 when you can hop out of a rhino and go 15" still shoot and use faith dice to auto hit, have units of flying dual flamer auto wounds and all the other cheeky schenanagins sisters could pull, it really put the hurt on Salamanders.

As someone who had slowly but surely been making a custom covenant of fire themed force for two years now, this pleases me mightily.

I know the Redeemer is the new hotness, but if you used a Land Raider Crusader, you could put an Apothecary Biologis with the Captain and Aggressors as well.

Welp, that settles it. Congrats Salamanders Vulkan is probably next.

@jakecrackers4759

9 ай бұрын

God I hope so

@jeremikrowicki970

9 ай бұрын

Its probably gonna be Dorn, but i can absolutely see vulkan coming back

@anamelessname4996

9 ай бұрын

Everyone’s forgot where the chaos plot is actually at. So I don’t think so

@keithchristmas7315

9 ай бұрын

It's absolutely 10000% going to be Russ, alongside Fulgrim. Wolves and Emperor's Children are both due a refresh. Won't be til late in the edition though, at a guess After that, given that Abaddon and Vashtorr are messing about in the Webway I could see The Khan being possible, although given that BA will be the last of the divergent Legions without a big Primarch centerpiece, I'd imagine they'll do something with Sanguinius before they start hitting the others. Although my guess is it'll be some big upgraded form of the Sanguinor rather than Sanguinius himself

@austagtheglorious4534

9 ай бұрын

Please! Gives this forefather the primaris update he deserves!

1CP Burning Vengeance (battle tactic) "Those damned bastard aliens are gonna pay for shootin' up my ride!"

Blood angels can make great use out of a lot of this. The transports strats will go a little under utilized but having an impulsor or a land raider full of something dangerous could be really strong to mix into to a standard BA type list. The +1 to wound strat will be very nice for a lot of melee options and our inferno pistols.

@tajj7

9 ай бұрын

Plus Baal Predator, Librarian dread to fling things across the board within 12" of enemies (so aggressor blobs or hellblasters etc.) Plus Death Company Dreads and Furioso dreads like the advance and come with flamers and meltas.

I'm sad the gauntlet can't be used in melee but that's probably overkill, but I still can't understand why adraxs hammer doesn't have devastating wounds!

Onslaught of fire is great if they have good stratagems to protect infantry in combat, battle shock them and charge them.

Rhino rush is back and it's better than ever. 2 Tacticals in Rhino, 2 MM Devs in Rhinos. 2 DS Terminator squads and a DS Flamestorm Aggressor Squad. 2 Annihilator Preds for fire support. Ventris, 2 Termie chaplains

@Pkay52

9 ай бұрын

Or maybe just buy some new models?

I wanted to build a Salamander army but I just couldn’t get the paint job to look right. So I shifted to Dark Angels. Still, this makes me happy

👍👍 I was planning to grab some vehicles to play my Salamanders out of anyway, I wasn't expecting vehicle shenanigans too but I'll take it 😃!

I’ve already been having fun with a 6 man of eradicators led by the new apothecary biologis in my space wolves. Lol Assault AND +1 S is just gonna make that even better

I kinda want to use that Deatchment for Sisters. Sisters are squishier and dont have Landraiders. But other than that, it feels like it could work pretty good.

@Goober2289

9 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing the whole time I was watching this, praying we get something good like this when we eventually get our codex

@Jplays23

9 ай бұрын

So glad it's not just me feeling that 😅 Could really use a fun transport and burn type thing for sisters. Especially as I rely heavily on transports to keep them safe as they are far too squishy in 10th

I think Vulkan, a LRR with 6 Aggressors + Captain and Repulsor with 6 Eradicators will be mainstays of this detachment. Other than that there’s plenty of honorable mentions: Adrax + BGV, Infernus in Drop Pod, Apothecary + Hellblasters in Repulsor/Impulsor. As well as the obvious best choice of using Burning Vengeance to drop a Redemptor if they shoot your Stormraven.

@stuartbanana5083

9 ай бұрын

I really like the idea of running a Stormraven in this detachment. Still a huge pointsminvestment, but you nailed it, dropping a defensive Dreadnaught sounds wicked!

@dantejrl

9 ай бұрын

@@stuartbanana5083 i thought same : stormraven with brutalis multi melta (or an other) and 6 eradicators or 10 pyroblasters with vulkan.

This is right up my ally. Don't even play Salamanders and this is exactly how I want my marines to play.

Absolutely love this detachment and its perfectly timed as I am just starting a Salamander Army. My planned list is a little different though. 1st Land Raider Redeemer Vulcan Hestan 10x Infernis Marines 3x Blade Guard Vets 2nd Land Raider Redeemer Gravis Captain 6x Flamestorm Agressors Adrax Agatone 6x Blade Guard Vets Ballistus Dreadnaught 3x Eradicators 3x Inceptors 5x Intercessors Callidus Assassin Can afford War Tempered Artifice, Forged in Battle and Champion of Humanity.Not sure who takes what yet. Dataslate points total this list at 1995 points.

As always great video thanks

I'm not sure, but I think I have read that crucible of battle only applies to the closest enemy unit AND if you're at 6 inches or less.

@TheGraham27

9 ай бұрын

Correct, so it's amazing on aggressors punching or bladguard veterans.

Model He'Stan as Emperors champion. Sick black Templar army.

I played the -1 to hit if your outside 12, very fun, pretty much removed any reliable shooting from the enemy unless they get flat buffs to hit which just makes it normal. Cant wait to run salamanders next

It sounds like Burning vengeance would stack really well with the repulsor rule of embarking if the unit is the target for a charge?

Inceptors in this are pretty badass

You can use the burning vengeance on unit (it's a transport, yeah?) Get out and immediately use immolation protocols on the squad (preferably with a captain)

I want to try a Deathwatch Mechanized Army. Corvus Blackstars with Indomitor ora Proteus Killteams sound amazing!!

@Bloodfont89

9 ай бұрын

this would be NUTS on death watch.

@stuartbanana5083

9 ай бұрын

I really like the idea and a Heavy Flamer and Infernus Heavy Bolter packed Proteus Killteam! Finally a Decent reason to run Watch Captain Artemis with his devastating wounds flamer.

@bigbabonga4074

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely goated. Mechanized Deathwatch, here we go

Probably using this for my white scar successors. Keeping assault if probably more useful to my list than the advance and charge of the white scars detachment.

@william9557

9 ай бұрын

They should've given it something more Like +1 to wound on a charge Or roll 3d6 when charging and pick the better 2 dice Or reroll one dice in a charge (like you rolled a 1 and a 6, keep the 6 and reroll the 1) Why did sallies get two good things but white scars not really got much that gladius can't do better (can advance and charge one turn then fall back and charge again the next)

I haven't used it yet. But, I have a list raven guard w/ firestorm using vanguard vets with hand flamer. High mobility and shrike keeping them lone operative safe so they can close the distance between targets. And invict warsuit for a little thematic flavor

I have a dumb idea- Vulkan Hestan and 9 Infernus marines in a drop pod A captain and 9 Infernus Marines in another. 640 points in total - save up 2cp and then drop the pods nearby to two units (or more) that you need deleting. Vulkan squad fires 9d6 flamers autohitting, 2cp dev wounds stratagem rerolling all flamer Wounds. Second drop pod has the captain do it again for free but without the reroll Wounds. Could do a lot of damage but is a tad swingy

wait, so in the 'salamander' themed detachment there is only 1 stratagem and 1 enhancement that relates to fire???

@CMTechnica

3 ай бұрын

The salamanders don’t exclusively use flamers. That’d be like saying the Dark Angels only use plasma. We have Bolters, too

this is the best detachment for bikes as well, the fact that outriders dont have assault on there guns is baffling

16:28 the gladiator valiant actually has S10 multimeltas equipped already so they would be boosted to strength 11

I was resistant to the bolter Aggressor hype but this is my jam, The biggest thing is they now hit with Fists on 3's. Kinda unfortunate the detachment rule does nothing for melee units, assault and +1 str on rapid fire bolters perks up terminators kinda nice if they got anything out the detachment rule.

@ThePoopoo12345

8 ай бұрын

Terminators dropping within 12" of something Toughness 4, with a librarian for exploding 6s, 5 str bolters with rapid fire and +1 to wound so ur wounding on 2s. Seems pretty good.

Makes me wanna play Blood Angels again.

forged in battle in a Eliminators squad with the Librarian in Phobos for lone operative = a almost guarantied 3 damage on almost anything because of dev wounds e.g if a character is on it's last legs or u just need to chip a tank down a few more wounds. P.S U could defiantly make it lore friendly as the squad are like the scouts of the main force and the army has now arrived or their just hunting down a specific target like a Warboss or a Farseer

Some of these detachments I'll be running as a Dark Angel .

I think this is an exciting detachment and i world be eager to play it. I just don't own the units that can make the most of it. Too many swords, not enough meltas.

i think this could pair fine with DA

I love this detachment. Finally getting some solid theming for chapters other than Ultramarines. However, having 5 of the 6 stratagems be classified as battle tactics after the recent rules is infuriating to every other army that now has massive restrictions on what their captain-type characters can do. No hate towards the Salamanders, I just wish GW would go back and reclassify some of the stratagems.

I do like crucible of battle on something like the redeemer actually. wounding o 2- against most infantery and even 4s vs really heavy stuff is nasty there^^

How much damage could Anvil Siege Force Heavy Intercessors put out? That is a decent amount of strength 5 shots with +1 to hit and +1 to wound.

Blood angels, three baal predators full flamer build

Of note burning Vengeance is a target of a transport so a captain can't use it

@william9557

9 ай бұрын

That's okay. He just use the free strat for like crucible of battle or immolation protocols if applicable

@skylergalle3732

9 ай бұрын

@@william9557 yeah not debating that. But everyone keeps taking about his this strat like a captain can effect it

DA plasma bikes with this Detachment will be fun

Might run this for my Blood Angels 3rd company 'Iron helms'. According to cannon, this company is known for high speed mechanised assaults

The +3 strength enhancement (is bloody expensive, yup) but could be tasty for beefing up a gravis captains extra attacks.

10 man unit of vanguard veterans all with jump packs, relic weapons and hand flamers led by a captain with jump pack, hand flamer and +3 strength relic weapon waiting in deep strike to really surprise your enemy. Yes please!

Having been playing salamanders since RT i like this more than the 3rd Ed Armageddon book.

This one & the Imperial Fist one are the 2 new detachments I like from the Codex: Fist for pure defence list, Flame for pure offence list & Gradius for allrounder list

@_Bayul

9 ай бұрын

How do you want to score points with pure defence?

@dantejrl

9 ай бұрын

@@_Bayul with a not pure defence list. When you are on an objective (with move, deep strike or other things), you don't need move. it's your opponent who must move ;-).

@_Bayul

9 ай бұрын

@@dantejrl So neither defence nor pure.

@TITAN_101

8 ай бұрын

@@_Bayul idk I rarely play so my skill level is low, maybe cover a few mid field objectives with overlapping "+1 to wound" Heavy gun lines from the Deployment Zone so I can say "No" if my opponent goes 1st & tries to score them, then start marching the Phalanx wall up in stages to hold enough objectives... haven't played a full game with secondaries yet (9th or 10th) so I'm unsure how much that might require tactical adjustments to the plan. Or play a narrative game were my job is to just hold the line, till death or victory.

VULKAN LIVES!!

@builder969channel6

9 ай бұрын

_Stomp, Stomp_

@matt1700

9 ай бұрын

After reading Vulkan Lives and now onto Unremembered Empire, I cannot tell you how sick of hearing that phrase I am. It makes me cringe every time now

@GlorifiedShed

9 ай бұрын

He does live tho innit

I might have a much more fun combo… Mechanically, you’ll only need to run as UM for Ventres, Gravis Captain, Agressors. Deep Strike the Agressors Turn 2, pop the strat for free, and burninate the country side.

If only a repulsor could fit 7 Gravis models

You've mentioned it in a few videos but the impulses cannot take erradicstors or gravisarines. They lack the tacticus keyword. Impulsir is tactics or phobos only.

To my brothers and sisters across all other foundings and legions, we welcome you to the Promethean creed. The Emperor protects, and Vulkan Lives.

So correct me if I'm wrong but would assault on all ranged weapons mean with my old Tactical squads I can move and fire with missile launchers or a Lascannon? Sorry if its obvious but the last time I played was 3rd and 4th and that seems stupidly good and broken to me in a good way. Was going to strip and repaint my old models which are painted as Salamanders anyway.

Cheears for the review. How come you go with Land Raiders rather than Repulsors in the suggested list?

For the re-embarkation strat, there doesn't seem to be anything preventing a different unit from entering a transport that another unit exited from. So, theoretically: Unit A and a transport both move. Unit A remains 6" behind the transport. Unit B exits the transport. Unit A gets 6" of bonus movement by using this stratagem to embark into the transport.

Does this detachment make assault centurions viable? Gaining assault on those big bolters and twinned flamers/meltas seems great along with +1S. On top of 3 of them fitting in all flavors land raider, that feels like a terrifying threat range for the big guys. Or are aggressors, eradicators, and devastators just more efficient?

@stuartbanana5083

9 ай бұрын

I think the others are more efficient, especially since Aggressors and friends can get character support. That being said… I’m happy to run as many centurions as I can get away with and I think this is a great detachment for them! Not ideal, but fun

@tajj7

9 ай бұрын

Think Eradicators and Aggressors can out damage them a lot on the shooting. Eradicators also have the built in re-rolls against monsters or vehicles. Also points, Aggressors are 200 for 6, Eradicators 190 for 6, Cents are 300 for 6, even with the Captain the Aggressor blob is 280 and you are talking 6D6+6 flamer shots, with AP1 (if closest target) at S5, and free dev wounds with the Captain, that you can re-roll because of twin linked. Plus then you still have the grenade launchers for a load of S5, AP1 shots with blast. Centurions just aren't coming close.

I didn't know that they finally put detatchments, I aknowledged this in the WH store,a s a salamander player I felt a bit bad for others, but flamer goes brrrrrrrrrrr and if flamer goes brrrrrrrrr I go brrrrrrrrrr

Stratagem Burning Vengeance is a false Battle Tactic, a Captain cannot be attached to a Transport and thus cannot make it free. Impulsor with Infernus Marines for drive by burning fun, great to pick up objectives. Forgot about Vindicators, that extra speed helps them out a ton. I have a fun list that I was running before that I slightly tweaked when the Codex overviews dropped: Captain in Gravis Armor - Relic Fist Aggressor Squad - 6-man - Flamestorm Gauntlets Inceptor Squad - 6-man - Plasma Exterminators 2x Infernus Squads - 5-man Brutalis Dreadnought - Brutalis Talons, Twin Multi-Melta 2x Gladiator Lancer - free upgrades Land Raider Redeemer - free upgrades 2x Vindicator - free upgrades 2x Impulsor - Shield Dome - free upgrades Assuming points online are the correct value Forged in Battle on the Captain.

How do we all think this plays at 1000 point games? I was thinking the captain + 6 aggressor block would be really impactful at that point level, with an impulsor with either Vulcan + infernus to jump out and fry something, or Adrax + blade guard to get a lift way up the battlefield to go fight for the enemies deployment zone objective

Damn I'm building a salamanders army right now. By the time I field it videos like this will have them nerfed into oblivion lol

Luckily i have just started a Mortifactors boarding patrol full flamers 🔥

Detachment over ? I have a doubt about the balancing of the rules with the news SM detachments

just needed an excuse to finish 2 boxes of aggressors and 2 boxes of eradicators 😎 🔥 🦎

I'll be running 2x Centurion Assault Squads with Firestorm😁

Im 9th i was running a list that only starts embarked i was like 35pts from the limit now my mechinized sally isnt just for fun but may be kinda competitive now!

it's strong BUT there is always the weakness of range to be efficient (that's why it's balance). The stronger detachment (and by far) is the anvil siege force because they have zero weakness and his buff is more powerfull than +1S at 12 inches.

@jeremyj189

8 ай бұрын

0 weakness ? Just say « not move » everywhere…

"Immolation Protocols" sounds just _a little_ too close to a Necron thing for my taste, but I'll take it.

Thoughts on Baal Predators? How does their rule interact with the detachment rule?

@smthomas2000

8 ай бұрын

So they would advance, rerolling the advance roll (I miss the auto 6) get within 12 and the flamers/hb would have plus one strength as would storm bolter and if fired within 12 the Hunter killer Missile. They are a great choice, probably 2, maybe 3. Just got to be careful of having too many tanks as it will go against you when the enemy takes bring it down

@christopherhughes7970

8 ай бұрын

But what about the “ can only shoot infantry “ part of the rule after advancing. Does that still apply now that it would have assault?

Dark Angels Plamsastorm detachment*

@gamingborger

9 ай бұрын

take a melee captain, give 'im a couple blade guard, and stuff them in repulsor with gatling guns. put the wartempered artifice on the cap'n

Can 6 aggressors and a gravis captain fit in a land raider in the codex? Does it boost the transport capacity? Otherwise it makes out at 6 gravis models

@Dyllyn133

9 ай бұрын

take an LRR instead, fits 7 gravis

@alexbrewer2415

9 ай бұрын

Regular land raider can carry 12, Redeemer can carry 14, crusader carry 16.

@TheVerruckMan

9 ай бұрын

That's only an issue if you're trying to fit them in a regular Land Raider, which only has a transport capacity of 12 models. However the Land Raider Redeemer and Land Raider Crusader can hold 14 and 16 models in them respectively, so even with gravis models taking up two slots a piece, that's still enough room for six aggressors and a captain to fit in there. Hell, the Crusader is even able to fit an Apothacary Biologis in there too if you really want. And considering how the flamers on the Crusader already synergize well with the Firestorm detachment... well, I think we can all do the math there.

@thelonewolf9866

9 ай бұрын

A Land Raider Redeemer has a 14 troop transport capacity. A gravis armor model takes up 2 slots so that makes max 7 gravis models. 6 Aggressors & 1 captain can fit in the vehicle. So it all checks out :)

I like this one. And here's an idea for consideration. I know it would take some time, but how about a set of videos describing how each detachment could help every Space Marine unit. Like, how the Firestorm could help a chapter like, let's say, Dark Angels. 😁

Hi there, Deathwatch player, what's going in that Land Raider Redeemer? A Proteus KT with 4 Infernus heavy bolters, three termies with heavy flamers a chaplain and a captain. Why?

Vulkan Lives!

Shooting Pistols in close combat are within 12”, that should get the +1 strength I think? I assume it’s not powerful since it didn’t come up.

@WilhelmScreamer

9 ай бұрын

Its a funny trick, and pistols are more a memory issue

im thinking razorback holding a back objective with 4 lascannon devastators.

+1 strength will be massive, Aggressors and Infernus will be brutal and multi meltas will hit light vehicles really easily, especially with He'stan on the side. Pretty much every stereotypical Salamander weapon reaches a new bracket.

@basteala525

9 ай бұрын

Honestly Immolation Protocols on a 10 man infernus squad with a captain to make it free sounds terrifying.

@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs

9 ай бұрын

​@basteala525 also use the +1 to wound strat for 1CP and that's 40 hits that would be wounding on 2-3's on units up to terminators strength with the +1S rule as well

@dantejrl

9 ай бұрын

@@basteala525 not free! 1 CP instead 2 ^^

We lost our thunder hammers on our captains😢

Salamanders have sucked for so long good to see them be decent again

*Happy Salamander noises*

How many vanguard veterans can take hand flamers?

Wanna bet that now everyone builds their Gravis Captains and Flamestorm Aggressors and in 3 weeks GW changes the Stratagem type to Epic Deed so that the 0CP combo is gone?

🤣 i just made a post on a space marine group yesterday with breakdowns of the damage about this

Hello fellow "Salamanders" players! I too am a fellow "Salamander", follower of our father San-I mean "Vulkan". Do not question my armor's color, i-it's red to symbolize our flamers!

VULKAN LIVES

100$ says the detachment gets nerfed within the month...Mark my words, they'll change immolation protocols so that it's not a battle tactic strat. I'm calling it right here...Documented proof. That being said I feel like eliminators in impulsors would be a sleeper hit...3 strength 10 las fusil shots with +1 to wound while being safe inside a tank would be pretty crazy I think. You wouldn't get dev. wound for standing still, but for what you get instead, I think it's a fair trade.

Baal predator time?

You know…….I don’t think we put enough emphasis on the DARK side of math. To roll one 6 on a D6 is 1/6. To roll one 6 on 2 D6 is a higher probability, while rolling 2 6s on 2 D6 is a lower probability. You have roughly, a 50% chance to get a 6 on 4 dice. The odds are more like 1/1296 for rolling 4 6s on 4 dice. Probability is fickle and you COULD roll what you want time and time again……but the odds on paper will never be appealing IMO. Should this be icing on the cake, or the cake itself?

WIth 8K+ of salamanders... I approve this message. Let the xenos burn

Cannot put Adrax with Bladeguards though can you?

@Bear_Andersen

9 ай бұрын

He couldn't in the Index. They updated him in the codex. Now he can.

@espenh9602

8 ай бұрын

This is good news indeed.@@Bear_Andersen

@Bear_Andersen

8 ай бұрын

@@espenh9602 I agree, it seems like the perfect unit for him to team up with. There isn't the redundancy that he has with Assault Intercessors.

Oh yay it's the month where salamanders are horribly overpowered, my favourite part of every edition

Enter gravis captain Trogdor the burninator and his fireglove gravis lads… who will melt through all the things… and its god damn all the gravis lads in a repulser coming straight frigen for you with the fire and the punching… with infernus lads in impulsers and eradicators cause well they are great for turning monsters into goo… and you want monsters to be goo or tanks to be goo… this is alot of turning things to goo the detachment… i assume its gunna be nerfed into the dirt cause it will be annoying cause alot of it gets round those pesky hit rollz…