Firestar's (Genetically Realistic) Family Tree [CC]

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Jesus christ I keep forgetting she's Squirrelstar now.
I choose the phrase "realistic" over "accurate" in the title for a handful of reasons that I'm having a hard time articulating... It feels weird to say "accurate" about a bunch of fictional characters who 1) don't exist, 2) are being edited from their book canon, and 3) have multiple ways to interpret their genetics. And 4) we don't even know how cat eye color genes work, this shit ain't "accurate" LOL.
I'm a very pedantic person, if that wasn't obvious.
Anyway, I hope that any of my insane ramblings (here or in the video) make sense :)
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00:00 - Intro
01:22 - Firestar's branch
08:18 - Scourge's branch
11:08 - Leafpool's branch
15:56 - Princess's branch
26:16 - Outro

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  • @thewingedwolfpack1559
    @thewingedwolfpack155922 күн бұрын

    I just had the unfortunate luck of my earbuds running out of battery, so the phrase “We don’t know if Daddy Farquaad is homo or hetero” just blasted through the living room with my entire family sitting around me

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    GOOD

  • @Equines_and_Animals

    @Equines_and_Animals

    22 күн бұрын

    LMFAO

  • @Ravendust_the_changeling

    @Ravendust_the_changeling

    20 күн бұрын

    RIP XD

  • @cacau8761

    @cacau8761

    20 күн бұрын

    Lol, did you have to explain to them?

  • @thewingedwolfpack1559

    @thewingedwolfpack1559

    20 күн бұрын

    @@cacau8761 I was in too much shame. I instead walked silently to my room as everyone stared judgmentally at me

  • @sunnygirl122
    @sunnygirl12223 күн бұрын

    Making Sandstorm fawn colored was genius genetically

  • @khimkito9947

    @khimkito9947

    22 күн бұрын

    genuinely!!! ive seen so many attempts at making a tree and they all made her orange and it ruined thw whole thing consequently but here it all worked out so well together

  • @alexbarrera4198

    @alexbarrera4198

    20 күн бұрын

    @@khimkito9947personally i make her cream because fawn is usually seen in pedigree/purebred cats and i like to try and give myself less work genetic wise, but i think fawn does work out if you wanna make all the characters look accurate and is a smart choice i just like taking the oldest known parents of the family on each side, giving them alleles based on how they look, and just going off of that purely as is lmao

  • @user-vm4kg4qi8j

    @user-vm4kg4qi8j

    16 күн бұрын

    Wait. No joke, I took the fawn and made that my excuse as part of my family tree that I am making for my own clan !!

  • @touya_todoroki974

    @touya_todoroki974

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@alexbarrera4198 doesn't mean cats well known for being highly mixed ferals can't also produce this, note both feral and pedigree breed populations contain this because they frequently mix

  • @dull_demon4717
    @dull_demon471723 күн бұрын

    I felt the "it's not impossible, very unlikely, but not impossible so i'm doing it", it's usually what happens when im doing genetics for warrior oc's of mine lol

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    23 күн бұрын

    IN THIS HOUSE WE PICK THE EXTREMELY UNLIKELY RECESSIVE COMBOS & EXTREME GRADIENT TRAITS 🎉🎉🎉

  • @unknowable4147

    @unknowable4147

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@littlehungrywarrior LIKE WE SHOULD 🎉🎉🎉

  • @vaporean_boylove.0w083

    @vaporean_boylove.0w083

    22 күн бұрын

    This vibe describes me in some* aspects xD

  • @Equines_and_Animals

    @Equines_and_Animals

    22 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarrior YES BECAUSE THEN WE CAN HAVE COOL COLORED CATS

  • @satanicaries2949

    @satanicaries2949

    22 күн бұрын

    YES! As a genetics and warrior cats nerd, I have two sets of designs I draw for my favorite characters. One design is more realistic to cat genetics (while still keeping as close to book design), and the other is just what I like to see that character as for fun! My “genetics” design often is closer to the book description than my “fun” one! All in all, these are fictional cats, I’m gonna color them whatever color I want!

  • @hydrengatherandomicecreatu857
    @hydrengatherandomicecreatu85722 күн бұрын

    Cloudtail's dad , Oilver , being replaced with a mysterious Lord Farquaad will never not be funny to me

  • @Ravendust_the_changeling

    @Ravendust_the_changeling

    20 күн бұрын

    That's also one of my favorite parts. I'm glad none of my family members walked In during them though XD

  • @Barakon

    @Barakon

    12 күн бұрын

    I wonder if Oliver IS Lord Farquaad, but the latter is his given name while Oliver is what he calls himself.

  • @Ravendust_the_changeling

    @Ravendust_the_changeling

    9 күн бұрын

    @@Barakon LMAO THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. I am stealing that as my new headcannon.

  • @christinafrazier1364
    @christinafrazier136423 күн бұрын

    I like this kind of genetic theorizing where you try to figure out how to make cats as close to their canon/fanon appearances as possible, kinda like a puzzle! Genetics are a lot more flexible and complicated than most people think they are.

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    23 күн бұрын

    BIG agree!!! it bothers me a lot when folks doing this type of challenge change characters, not bc they want to but bc they feel like they HAVE to! these types of exercises are very much a puzzle to me, or like a big complicated math equation. me making this video 🤝animals at the zoo getting food out of puzzle boxes

  • @sexygirlmax2019

    @sexygirlmax2019

    11 күн бұрын

    I know nothing about genetics or what all the traits mean so I can't enter my characters genetics and find out what their babies would look like. I mean one of the characters had a litter from 3 father's. It's literally the only thing stopping me from finishing my warrior cats oc story, I have an entire lifetime planned out with these characters but GENETICS BE DAMNED I have zero idea wt I'm doing

  • @lindseylindsey9200
    @lindseylindsey920023 күн бұрын

    12:43 Tigerstar clone Hollyleaf goes hard actually… adds a whole other layer to her dedication to the warrior code, it’s already precious to her and now it’s also her way of proving that she’s her own strong warrior, her way of reclaiming her appearance from the nightmarish stories she’s heard of her “grandfather” Tigerstar… hell yeah

  • @bluebaris6651

    @bluebaris6651

    21 күн бұрын

    It's also interesting on how DEVASTATED she would be when she eventually does snap and do what could be perceived as "evil" actions (though they're much more complicated than that) and that in her eyes, she would have failed at reclaiming her appearance (and yes, I know that she by this point knows she isn't related to tigerstar, but shhh she's known him as her grandpa for her whole life up to this point)

  • @doginabog3032
    @doginabog303220 күн бұрын

    cant let the gang know i fw Firestar's (Genetically Realistic) Family Tree 26:31 "we already know squirrelflight is hetero and ticked" -the erin hunter team whenever they have to make brambleflight relationship drama

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    20 күн бұрын

    HAHA HOLY SHIT

  • @abigailkondoudis5772
    @abigailkondoudis577223 күн бұрын

    Please do another one of these for Tigerstar, I’d love to see a genetically accurate Hawkfrost and Tawnypelt

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    23 күн бұрын

    Tawnypelt is another one who'd be very fun tbh. I had her in mind when I was making Tigerheartstar here so I have a good idea of what I want from her genetically, but I also have 2 different conflicting Tawnypelt designs in my head and I'd have to pick one :(

  • @compassrose1466

    @compassrose1466

    22 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarriorThe coined term of Tigerstarstar and Tigerheartstar will never not make me laugh especially in the moments before my brain remembers the context 😭

  • @blobbertmcblob4888

    @blobbertmcblob4888

    21 күн бұрын

    I can tell you immediately that Hawkfrost being a brown tabby with blue eyes is impossible. That goes for any of the cats that are not pointed having blue eyes.

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    21 күн бұрын

    @@blobbertmcblob4888 untrue! Hawkfrost is a tux :) the white lets him have blue eyes

  • @blobbertmcblob4888

    @blobbertmcblob4888

    21 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarrior mmmm but blue eyes are linked to albinism, such as the pointed gene. I can't find any actual information on tuxedo cats having blue eyes, but if they can, it's very, very, very rare. I know I've never seen or heard of a cat without being pointed or solid white having blue eyes beyond 6 weeks old.

  • @saml815
    @saml81520 күн бұрын

    Tbh I'm not typically draw towards content involving "genetically accurate" warriors because it ends up coming across as a bit of a buzzkill imo, but this was SO fun to watch. You focused more on "how can I make this as true to the books as possible" rather than just going straight to saying it's impossible! Definitely looking forward to seeing more of this in the future!

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    20 күн бұрын

    Yeah I hate how much of the "genetically accurate" part of the fandom are simultaneously so mean and so uneducated at the same time*. genetics is fun!! why be mean about it?? *I am NOT throwing shade on anyone specific.

  • @kirinblirin8734
    @kirinblirin873419 күн бұрын

    Fun fact about cloudtail's dad it was confirmed his dad is a white tom with blue eyes via the official family tree his name is Oliver. So they officially got that right genetically. 😅

  • @viruswolf
    @viruswolf22 күн бұрын

    “We don’t know if daddy farquad is homo or hetero for WD” is a crazy sentence to hear without context

  • @jessicaisautistic8487
    @jessicaisautistic848722 күн бұрын

    "COMING IN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR, IT'S JAKE!" That made my day

  • @ZOOBAZOING
    @ZOOBAZOING22 күн бұрын

    *Absorbs information and makes genetically accurate designs* *Daddy Farquaad*

  • @howlsz
    @howlsz21 күн бұрын

    12:57 "COMING IN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR, IT'S JAKE" got to me, thank you

  • @staarlight8956
    @staarlight895622 күн бұрын

    seems like tigerstar's already the winner for next time, but for an out-of-the-box pick i'd love to see frostpaw's tree. there's all sorts of fun things going on in there what with curlfeather's curled ears and frostpaw seemingly being canonically mink.

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    I'm a little hesitant to cover characters from the new books since I haven't kept up with them, thus I'm not sure which characters ppl care about more + what parts of their appearances are more important...but those phenotypes do intrigue me. I'll look into it :3

  • @belughlegosi

    @belughlegosi

    22 күн бұрын

    Or yellowfang with her Persian roots

  • @MeltingEgg
    @MeltingEgg22 күн бұрын

    Found this and loved it!! At the start of the vivdeo I was like: "No I'm not gonna watch the info vid, I'm only here for the cats" and now I'm like "Time to watch your cat genetics playlist"

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    that's how i GET you(r views) >:)))

  • @hymmli
    @hymmli22 күн бұрын

    You’re the first person I’ve seen fight SO HARD to keep the genetics similar to cannon and I love it so much

  • @fairycat23
    @fairycat2322 күн бұрын

    I understand not wanting to do the genotype for Ivypool's kits because eewwww, but part of me wonders just because I wonder how obvious it would be that they're in🍞. "Who's Birchfall?" One of Dustpelt and Ferncloud's many children. Alternate backstory for Jake: Jake's breeders sold him for a little cheaper for not meeting breed standards. Idk if this is a thing that happens, but it makes sense in my head.

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    1) yeah ew LOL. so many of the clans are so sandwiched (IN BREAD BA DUM TS) i'm surprised they don't all have 8,000 recessive diseases 2) oh god I'll have to include him when I do Bluestar's then. that's ok his genes are pretty basic bitch. 3) that IS a thing that happens and that would be HILARIOUS

  • @QuicksilverStudios0w0614
    @QuicksilverStudios0w061421 күн бұрын

    Tigerstar’s family tree would be amazing!! as someone who adores the colorpoint hawkfrost head cannons, i wanna see the fun wrench Sasha throws into the mix 👁️👁️

  • @ghosthongalongamongonkas2347
    @ghosthongalongamongonkas234723 күн бұрын

    I like your funny words magic person

  • @chicade5449
    @chicade544922 күн бұрын

    The first Shrek movie came out in 2001. The first Warriors book came out in 2003. it is entirely possible Cloudtail's dad was named Farquaad

  • @DoeDaae
    @DoeDaae23 күн бұрын

    I loved this, I’m fascinated that nobody ended up changed too severely

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    23 күн бұрын

    thnx! my goal w/these types of exercises is to keep them as book-accurate as possible while filling in realistic genes so I'm glad I was able to do that :3

  • @Fli9457
    @Fli945721 күн бұрын

    If you told me that a Warrior cats genetically accurate family tree would contain the term “daddy farquaad” I would NOT have believed you 😂

  • @AgnesM_Ribeiro
    @AgnesM_Ribeiro23 күн бұрын

    This honestly taught me SO MUCH about cat genetics and I'm not even in the warriors fandom anymore. Peak video honestly

  • @imhowling
    @imhowling22 күн бұрын

    "i can do some insane things to hawkfrost" LET IT RIP

  • @paranoidlizard6338
    @paranoidlizard633819 күн бұрын

    13:37 lionblaze is rapunzel confirmed he ate a funny plant in the womb and now he’s blond

  • @paranoidlizard6338

    @paranoidlizard6338

    19 күн бұрын

    Or he’s adora… that would actually work better considering the buff power factor

  • @L0rdOfThePies

    @L0rdOfThePies

    11 күн бұрын

    @@paranoidlizard6338 a kitty wielding a sword and becoming buff is a wild image, and yet…

  • @paranoidlizard6338

    @paranoidlizard6338

    11 күн бұрын

    @@L0rdOfThePies i mean if any kitty could wield a sword…

  • @Senfree
    @Senfree21 күн бұрын

    Actually had a black cat, but in the sun light, could see brown stripes in his black fur. The stripes were just so dark you could only see them while he was sun bathing.

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    21 күн бұрын

    TARNISH IS SO PRETTY

  • @L0rdOfThePies

    @L0rdOfThePies

    11 күн бұрын

    Aww Its the same with black panthers :-) you can see their spots if they hit the light, very gorgeous

  • @Racooncatt
    @Racooncatt23 күн бұрын

    The Lord farcwad joke had me dying lol

  • @L-ghtlessSky
    @L-ghtlessSky22 күн бұрын

    “Ruby is a blue shorthair” mhm, never heard of this.. “Socks” *flashbacks to Emo Scourge* also my pronunciation is the same as yours, Skoarj “we’ve decided that Crowfeather also has a little d..”

  • @KRTobiasYT
    @KRTobiasYT22 күн бұрын

    Im so glad you made Sandstorm fawn, for some reason I've always thought of her as fawn not cream. And I've never felt so validated in this thought before

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    FAWN SANDSTORM SUPREMACY

  • @EggofEve
    @EggofEve21 күн бұрын

    Yessss finally, someone else who’s making a Somali Firestar, I always thought that Firestar was a Somali cat because it made so much sense in my mind and was utterly disappointed to see that he officially was just a ginger cat.

  • @Tofu_The_Opossum
    @Tofu_The_Opossum22 күн бұрын

    You: * saying complicated genes stuff* Me: “yeah I totally understand what they are talking about”

  • @Loafy_TheArtist
    @Loafy_TheArtist21 күн бұрын

    Imagine being me rn. I got too curious, so I skipped to the end (keep in mind I haven't read much of warriors), and I just see Lord Farquaad in one of the spots, and now I am cackling uncontrollably

  • @Shiny_Misty
    @Shiny_Misty23 күн бұрын

    Tigerstar. TIGERSTAR! You already have Tigerheartstar.

  • @MynnieMonster
    @MynnieMonster22 күн бұрын

    What a breath of fresh air! No hate to other people who have reworked the genetics on Firestar's family tree, but making him a ruddy tabby is such a simple and effective solution. And Sandstorm as a fawn tabby? Beautiful. Ivypool x Fernsong seems like a challenge, maybe I'll mess around with that later.

  • @SuddenlyLee
    @SuddenlyLee22 күн бұрын

    This is so awesome!! I love cat genetics and Warriors so much- after seeing this, I went back and watched your whole cat genetics series, lol. Another cool idea for Firestar could be amber/russet/carnelian! He could start as the brown cat he’d be if Jake was orange, maybe looking a bit like fire, enough for Bluestar to take him in… but by the time he actually becomes Firestar, he looks completely like a flame-colored cat. Because we know essentially nothing about Jake and Nutmeg, they could absolutely have the right recessives for it, too!

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    21 күн бұрын

    oooo, Amber mirroring his character arc as he grows into himself :O cool.. if he was carnelian then he'd just be born "ginger" already tho lol. also, he'd have to be homozygous carnelian for the full effect, so unless Sandstorm also has it (possible!) Squirrelflight wouldn't have the full effect. hetero-carnelian leafpool wouldl be an interesting design.

  • @SuddenlyLee

    @SuddenlyLee

    21 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarrior oop yep, I was accidentally lumping all the “orange but not actually” genes together, lol.

  • @SNUFFGURLL
    @SNUFFGURLL22 күн бұрын

    I'd love to see a Tigerstar tree. I need his freakish offspring, and I absolutely need to see what you'd make Hawkfrost look like.

  • @bean3550
    @bean35508 күн бұрын

    The devilish glee then we got the "daddy farquaad is SILVER" was Fantastic

  • @khaotickiri8223
    @khaotickiri822323 күн бұрын

    Watching this while actively in bio 30 is so fun, the entire time I'm like "omg I know that word!!!"

  • @dovestormcat6127
    @dovestormcat612720 күн бұрын

    How many times have you rewatched this video? ... yes... I just love how you make the family tree, and I started making a cat oc family tree in a similar fashion. Just using generators where I don't have design ideas, and then looking through the family to see where the genetics could come from. I ended up with the first mink in the family thanks to generators and her parents carrying each point trait she needed. Also, I found out Somali and Abyssinian seem to be fairly similar, aside from Somali being longhair and Abyssinian being shorthair So the start of my cat oc family tree is someone's purebred Abyssinian who got loose and some tom got her pregnant. I'm having alot of fun mapping these genetics, as you can probably tell by my comment and the repeated replaying of this video

  • @_lunisgaming_2827
    @_lunisgaming_282718 күн бұрын

    Leafpool turned out so good

  • @rorytelling
    @rorytelling22 күн бұрын

    As someone who only really knows the basic color genes but is still really passionate about cat genetics, this is the best video ever. It's very rare to find info about cat genetics that's accurate, interesting, and easy to follow at the same time

  • @xxkalicoZ
    @xxkalicoZ21 күн бұрын

    Cloudtails dad being Lord Farquaad is now my new favorite thing

  • @TheVoidIsBees
    @TheVoidIsBees23 күн бұрын

    I know a big fat nothing about Warrior Cats, I'm here just for the fun genetics talk and the cute kitty drawings. I'd love to see more!

  • @sunlakestar2549
    @sunlakestar254921 күн бұрын

    On the warrior wiki, Oliver(Cloudtail's dad) is shown to be an all-white tom. His littermates are Nami: brown and white Livy: white and brown Taylor: gray(?) and white Zack: white and light gray(?) That would be a nice little backstory for the Erins to drop. Or someone to write about.

  • @emmettrose5960
    @emmettrose596021 күн бұрын

    This is so much fun! The Farquaad shenanigans are top-tier. I also like your take on Lionblaze-personally, I’m a fan of (black) golden, since many of my favorite designs for him have black stripes. Or I heard it’s called sunshine now? It’s breed-specific to Siberians, but hey, this is fantasy genetics anyway (I am also taking the free excuse to encourage folks to look up bimetallic siberians. No, that’s not a tortie! It just interacts weirdly with silver)

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    21 күн бұрын

    ahh yes, golden! wideband is a polygenetic gradient trait so it'd need at least one parent to have a ton of widebanding genes for lionblaze to get. lucky lucky, crowfeather doesn't display tabby ;) Oooh man, I've never seen bimetalic before...that's beautiful! thank you!

  • @Piper_____
    @Piper_____21 күн бұрын

    Stepping in to appreciate the route you went with hollyleaf - I love recessive traits jumping a bunch of generations. I’ve got the blue eyes that my mom’s great grandpa (who died before color photography) passed down to me, haha

  • @eurusventus572
    @eurusventus57223 күн бұрын

    actually 🤓☝️ we know who are Crowfeather's parents, it's Ashfoot and Deadfoot (lol), and Crowfeather is smoky-gray (wiki info) with kinda-white face on one of the official art, not black, so with this retcon he can have a blue eyes

  • @eurusventus572

    @eurusventus572

    23 күн бұрын

    actually really love this video and generically realistic warrior cats, please do more, it's cool

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    23 күн бұрын

    oh i know we know his family in the books, but they're not on this tree so we "don't know them" AKA their genes LOL. I don't give a shit about CF's family tree. Realistically, blue cats don't get as dark as Crowfeather is described, so black is his only real option. I didn't know his recent art shows him w/white... I don't like that :\ takes away his parallel to HL & BP. thnx for telling me about it tho! if someone decided to keep it they COULD give him blue eyes indeed...

  • @imaginarylivingbody7154

    @imaginarylivingbody7154

    22 күн бұрын

    If Crowfeather didn’t choose his own name I would bet that Tallstar would name him Crowfoot for the bit.

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    @@imaginarylivingbody7154 there's a HILARIOUS tumblr post about that

  • @Frostfern94

    @Frostfern94

    21 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarriorThat’s interesting because my cat is dark grey and white but everyone thinks he’s black and white because it’s so dark. He was very light grey and white when he was a kitten, like his mama.

  • @mayfallz
    @mayfallz22 күн бұрын

    i LOVE your little jokes like jake with the steel chair too. it makes the kind of dry genetics talk a lot easier to process

  • @_no_moon_
    @_no_moon_23 күн бұрын

    I’m *super* into cat genetics so this is, like, my dream video! You put a ton of effort into it and it shows, also your style is adorable!

  • @misfits9294
    @misfits929419 күн бұрын

    Can we talk about how you didn't change a thing largely from their canon designs. Absolute genius, visionary, this entire thing is big brained.

  • @radioactivemintchip29
    @radioactivemintchip2920 күн бұрын

    Me, sitting here in my chair, staring at the screen like with a dumb smile while not knowing a single damn thing about genetics and knowing everything about cats like: :D Edit: this video made me want to genetically realisticify my OCs now what have you done

  • @DarkQuilava13
    @DarkQuilava1321 күн бұрын

    I love the erasure of crowfeather's, birchfall's and tigerheartstar's ancestry and crystal (jake's mom) as well as squilfs kids & grand kids and lionblaze's descendants to keep things simple and shorter lol

  • @SkilatiLu
    @SkilatiLu23 күн бұрын

    I understand the struggle of genetically correct cat family trees… I’m drawing over the official tree from the website and adding anyone I can. Luckily, my friend made the actual document with calculations. Anyways, I enjoyed this video

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    23 күн бұрын

    oh man, I can't imagine trying to do that many. good luck to you!!

  • @kelseymeade5891
    @kelseymeade589123 күн бұрын

    This is amazing and really interesting. I really like how you went to Brightheart's part of the family tree. I'm interested in genetics because I have Turner's syndrome and so I'm interested into how a cat with Turner's syndrome would look.

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    23 күн бұрын

    Forgive me if I'm wrong - Turner's syndrome is X monosomy, right? I'm no expert, but I did some cursory searching... All quotes below are from "Genetic disorders of sex development in cats: An update" (2020) by Szczerbal I. & Switonski M., to the journal "Animal Reproduction Science." "The X monosomy condition is rarely diagnosed in cats. A new case was recently reported by Szczerbal et al., 2015a in a female cat with masculinized external genitalia composed of a rudimentary penis and a scrotum-like structure without gonads. This was a surprising observation because the X monosomy is usually associated with infantile female genitalia. There, however, has been a report of enlarged clitorides in four of 181 human patients with Turner syndrome (Ranganath and Rajangam, 2012)." "The feline PAR is much longer (6.7 Mb) than the human PAR1 (2.7 Mb, in the short arm of the X) and PAR2 (0.32 Mb in the long arm of X), and equine PAR (1.8 Mb). It can thus be anticipated that the prevalence of X monosomy would be less in live born cats, due to embryonic loss." Very interesting! Thanks for bringing this up. I'd love to hear any info you have too, if you're comfortable sharing. And thank you for the compliments :3

  • @kelseymeade5891

    @kelseymeade5891

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@littlehungrywarriorYes Turner's syndrome is X monosomy X) and it is associated with a whole bunch of developmental health problems. In my case it's just growth and hormones. I do know I had read that one of the few cases they had caught with TS was a Maine coon kitten because she was cream, they knew the parents genetics and the only way for her to be cream was if she was missing part of her chromosome.

  • @kelseymeade5891

    @kelseymeade5891

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@littlehungrywarrioryes. Thank you. Turner's syndrome is monosomy X (or 45X). I find the research you have done very interesting. From what research I've done, one of the few cases of TS in cats that's been recorded is a cream Maine coon kitten (they knew the kitten had TS because the vets knew the parents genetics and the kitten could not have cream without missing a gene)

  • @emmalately9120
    @emmalately912022 күн бұрын

    For ivypool i thought for a second your soloution was going to be that she was tortie, bit since shes high white all the orange just ~coincedentally~ ended up covered up. Love your soloution, but it makes me wonder could that even be possible? Great vid btw and one of the best takes on the trend - your knowledge does you well.

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    of course it's possible, look at the genes lol. nothing on this tree is impossible; that's why it's Firestar's realistic family tree, and not Firestar's "I made up a bunch of fake shit" family tree. edit: I seem to have misunderstood the question! apologies, it's answered below

  • @silversauce2727

    @silversauce2727

    22 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarrior I think emmalately meant would it be possible for a calico to have their orange patches covered by white spotting so perfectly as to make them appear to not be calico at all I would assume yes. To quote you; "It's not impossible. Very unlikely, but not impossible" lol but I've only got a mild interest in cat genetics and I haven't seriously dabbled in a few years.

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@silversauce2727 OH!! In that case @emmalantely9120 my apologies!! That is entirely possible! They're call cryptic torties, and there's a few other ways that they can happen too :)

  • @emmalately9120

    @emmalately9120

    22 күн бұрын

    Yeah that's what I meant! It's a fun concept to think of, and I've just started binging your videos so sorry if you mention it in one

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    @@emmalately9120 No problem! I don't expect everyone to know everything LOL. I'm just sorry for misunderstanding your question!

  • @indesomniac
    @indesomniac23 күн бұрын

    Loved watching this!! I feel like this as a mini-series on your channel serves as a helpful walkthrough of your gene videos and how they all work together! When you end up doing another, I'd love to see maybe Ferncloud's tree? I'd love to see how you figure out how Foxleap fits in there! That does being it back around to Birchfall though, so if you're looking for a more unconnected tree, maybe Greystripe and Millie's family? Millie doesn't have any other family in her backstory, so she'd be open for any sort of recessive gene manipulation needed to make things work (looks at Blossomfall)

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    23 күн бұрын

    Oooh, that would be interesting... I'm not familiar with Ferncloud's tree off the top of my head, but looking at the wiki, Foxleap certainly provides a bizarre challenge. Tbh I think connecting it back to Birchfall would be a fun challenge, too. I'll add this one to my list :3

  • @goodfriendschannel4456

    @goodfriendschannel4456

    22 күн бұрын

    Yeah, I would like actually to see genetically accurate Shrewpaw! (cuz he's my favorite boy, ofc)

  • @Maplekittycity
    @Maplekittycity16 күн бұрын

    I really love how you actually tried to make the cats fit their canon discriptions!! So many people who do this challenge go for the "ooo look how different they are!" factor without actually figuring out how to get the characters to fit their discriptions. Playing with cat genetics for ocs or canon warrior cats is meant to be fun!! Not to tell people that "this is impossible/you cant do this your doing it wrong!" (I remember one person even saying that solid cats don't exist in the wild, what???). Sure, a fawn cat in a wild population is uncommon, but its fun, and these cats breed with outsiders all the time, so its not that unlikely for it too happen. Sorry for the mini rant, I just love this video and all genetics that were put together to figure out the puzzle (plus your dilvery was great lol), and I loved going and watching your cat genetics series and refreshing my knowledge on things I didn't even know about before. I'd love to see another, subscribing right now

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    16 күн бұрын

    Holy shit they said that??? Dude my bestie's solid black cat, solid tortie, AND their male calico came from underneath a dumpster at a fast food place. My roommate's old solid blue and _flame point_ came from a pregnant stray they found. Dude's clearly just never gone outside and looked at strays LOL. Thanks so much!!

  • @Maplekittycity

    @Maplekittycity

    15 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarrior Fr!! Solid black cats are everywhere and you can get the craziest colors from random strays if your lucky! If cool stuff can happen in irl, they can happen in your ocs! Good luck on future videos and keep being cool!

  • @nowayjose1870
    @nowayjose187021 күн бұрын

    ShadowSight even looks shook in his headshot. God I love him

  • @whispyr_
    @whispyr_20 күн бұрын

    there were SUCH funny quotes in this oh my gosh. "we already know crowfeather has a little d", "daddy farquaad can be homo or hetero", "those Ws in his genome are the only Ws in his entire life",, who let you be hilarious this just Is Not Fair /silly

  • @Ravendust_the_changeling

    @Ravendust_the_changeling

    20 күн бұрын

    Those quotes are comedy gold lol

  • @s0und_h0und
    @s0und_h0und18 күн бұрын

    I did not understand anything about the letters and capitals of cat/dog genetics until I saw this video, this is a great way to visually demonstrate how these work I have aquired knowledge nice

  • @pakparker9264
    @pakparker926423 күн бұрын

    I def remember being young and drawing Brightheart with green eyes

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    23 күн бұрын

    ME TOO i remember being MAD at people on Deviantart who drew her with blue because they were green!!! thank god I'm not the only one getting berenstein bears'd.

  • @pakparker9264

    @pakparker9264

    23 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarrior lmaooo this IS my Mandela effect😂

  • @PasteilloTheCat

    @PasteilloTheCat

    22 күн бұрын

    Well, do you remember that being stated in the books?- I think that's just a different opinion and thought rather than it coming from misprinted info on a book. (Saying this because of the replies)

  • @pakparker9264

    @pakparker9264

    22 күн бұрын

    @@PasteilloTheCat I don’t think so. I just started re-reading all the books (but in audio book form and I’m on the last book of power of three) and thinking back no, I don’t remember a mention of her having green eyes. I only read the first six books originally when I was in 6th grade lol and now I’m 24 so it had been awhile😂 Also, checking the warrior wiki they have never mentioned she had green eyes not even as a mistake. Their is a few fanart with Brightheart having green eyes to so maybe it was just one of those things where people drew Ravenpaw with purple eyes even though he like, obviously didn’t lol.

  • @pakparker9264

    @pakparker9264

    22 күн бұрын

    @@PasteilloTheCat their was one time when Brightheart was mistaken for having amber eyes but that’s about it

  • @DaydreamingRatMan
    @DaydreamingRatMan23 күн бұрын

    YESSSS. I WAS WONDERING WHEN YOUD MAKE ONE OF THESE 🙏🙏🙏🙏 THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT JEJEJEJEJEJ

  • @compassrose1466
    @compassrose146622 күн бұрын

    DUDE YOUR DESIGN FOR SQURRIEL AND LEAF?? I love them aww 🥺 Edit: “who the f is birchfall” is sending me after wish I nd the moonkitti on him months ago HE REALLY IS FORGOTTEN LMFAO

  • @bclubofawesomeness2894
    @bclubofawesomeness289412 күн бұрын

    tigerstar was the first family tree that came to mind but i’d love to see bluestar’s as well!

  • @carriioneater
    @carriioneater23 күн бұрын

    honestly i love to see one of these where you make the designs as possible as possible instead of going down the tree and changing things a whole bunch

  • @toast_56
    @toast_5622 күн бұрын

    Underrated Also tysm for the effort to make the sub titles accurate to what your saying, it’s like another extra care detail

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    oh man it bothers me SO MUCH when subtitles aren't accurate... I'll fully admit to missing small changes here & there between my script & what I ended up saying, but I change them whenever I catch them. I don't get why ppl think Deaf/hoh/apd folks don't deserve or won't miss what's being said; that's the WHOLE POINT of subtitles! I think the real answer is that they don't actually care about Deaf/hoh/adp folks and just do the subtitles bc they're "supposed" to. better than not doing them at all, but it pisses me off more than not doing them at all, if that makes sense.

  • @toast_56

    @toast_56

    16 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarrior yeah it does, i always appreciate when people put extra care into their subtitles

  • @pantherinos
    @pantherinos22 күн бұрын

    this might just be my new favourite genetically accurate warriors video since you don't really change anything, you just make it make sense

  • @Jade-yb8jy
    @Jade-yb8jy16 сағат бұрын

    This popping up in my recommended tap 3 weeks after posting date, and literal years after I searched anything anywhere on the Internet about warriors... I'll never escape. Banger video btw I watched the whole thing

  • @lilwolfygaming3313
    @lilwolfygaming331322 күн бұрын

    punnet squares help a lot with things like this

  • @RickVSNeganTWD
    @RickVSNeganTWD16 күн бұрын

    Iam glad to get a possible theory on how Rustystar could maintain his appearance genetically, as pretty much every other genetically accurate warriors video has him as a brown tabby. I mean the entire Prophecy is about him being orange. Of course the Erin's kinda throw a monkey wrench into things in Pinestar's Choice, revealing that Jake's parents are crystal, a ginger She-cat with white spotting and mocha, a brown tom. I like you're theory better though.

  • @imnoorrs5095
    @imnoorrs509522 күн бұрын

    I this’ll sound silly, but I love that you can tell how much you like this subject through voiceover alone. This has actually been the most helpful and interesting video on the subject of cat genetics that I’ve watched. Honestly love the non-linear approach to talking about the family tree.

  • @SpiritofrockinKids
    @SpiritofrockinKids10 күн бұрын

    I remember back when I was a kid thinking that Bluestar’s family is cursed, because they keep dying throughout the books. Any time the Erins needed to kill a cat to show how dangerous life in the woods is, it’s a descendant of Bluestar or Snowfur (forgot their mom’s name lol.

  • @VidakaDraws
    @VidakaDraws17 сағат бұрын

    Damn this plopped up randomly in my recommendations and I am not even a big warriors fan anymore, but I find genetics so fascinating. I still don't know too much about it, but while my best friend for example feels like, listening to genetics and realism throws away the fun of designing a character, I must say designing one while falling under the rules of genetics can be so much fun and it is like playing a puzzle game. Maybe I will look more into genetics of animals cause of this video, thank you! Also, I'd be really thrilled to see another video with Bluestars or Tigerstars family tree as you said! Keep up the amazing work, but take your time with it

  • @ThePacketOfFuzz
    @ThePacketOfFuzz19 күн бұрын

    bluestar’s family tree is really interesting!! even looking at goosefeather + moonflower, that shit is super cool! big ups on that idea :))

  • @THESOURESTBUG
    @THESOURESTBUG16 күн бұрын

    This video is so informative and well put together, it’s just a joy to watch. Normally I don’t really enjoy these types of videos as I feel that they often sacrifice the vision of the character so I love how you managed to stay pretty true to the books. New sub!

  • @Gacha_Got_Arsorned
    @Gacha_Got_Arsorned3 сағат бұрын

    I think you should do Tigerstar next because Tigerheart is his grandson and Bramblestar is his son so you would just be adding to the family tree(and you could totally keep it separate too). I mostly want to see if Tigerstars genetics are possible considering his mom is a black shorthair. If toms can only inherit their color from their mom what happened if a brown she-cat and a black tom mate?

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    Сағат бұрын

    Thank you! "Toms only inherit their color from their mom" is oversimplified shorthand ppl came up with to help them remember that ginger is sex-linked. Trying to use that "rule" w/a brown molly & a black tom would be like saying "I before E except after C" about Russian. I have an educational series on cat genetics. If you want to know what that phrase ACTUALLY means, I recc watching the ginger episode - or, to answer your question about that specific pairing, the tabby episode :3

  • @doe4003
    @doe400321 күн бұрын

    This video is so fun. Watching you figure out ways to keep everyone so canon accurate but also genetically accurate was really interesting!

  • @garden_creature
    @garden_creature22 күн бұрын

    My favorite personal challenge is to make the Three genetically possible through both Squirrel x Bramble and Leaf x Crow. Not that it really matters because the Clans don't care what they look like.. but still, it's fun. I would LOVE to see what crazy things you have in mind for Hawkfrost. Thank you for this video, as a genetically accurate warriors enthuiast, I was impressed by how little you had to alter anyone's designs. I learned a lot. Thank you :D

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    Oh that'd be fun!! Let's see... SF got all the same fawn-causing heterozygous-ness as LP, and BS can be carrying mc easily, so Lionblaze is a cakewalk _if_ BS can get b1 from somewhere - which he can! I have plans for Tigerstar ( ;) ) but Goldenflower could have it. He can also carry dilution easily so that's JF taken care of, and nonagouti, so that's HL too. And he's longhair, so that's actually easier than CF/LP for the longhair kiddos LOL. so I think all it'd take to make them work for BS/SF too is if Goldenflower gives her boi a b1 :D I swear the next family tree video is going to be 3 hours, and 2.5 of it are going to be Hawkfrost & Mothwing.

  • @Frostfern94

    @Frostfern94

    21 күн бұрын

    @@littlehungrywarriorGood luck with those two honestly

  • @Ravendust_the_changeling
    @Ravendust_the_changeling20 күн бұрын

    This is the best genetically realistic warrior cats video I've ever seen! Maybe you could do Tawnpelt's family tree next, I think that might be interesting.

  • @Ravendust_the_changeling

    @Ravendust_the_changeling

    20 күн бұрын

    BTW I also pronounce Scourge like that, and the Dovewing eye correcters needing to beat the Scourge correcters to unalive you comment was hilarious.

  • @i.cant.pick.a.user_name
    @i.cant.pick.a.user_name6 күн бұрын

    i love seeing this series come back two years later!! i was longing for more and now i have it

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    6 күн бұрын

    2 years later? :O

  • @salt7625
    @salt7625Күн бұрын

    COMIN IN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR IT'S JAKE! Is basically the story of warriors

  • @Tree_Fox
    @Tree_Fox19 күн бұрын

    26:24 ALDERHEART NOOOOOOOOO 🪦

  • @XimiBell
    @XimiBell23 күн бұрын

    I love your commentary. You have such a fun way of talking.

  • @XxXNightcoreQueenXxXV2
    @XxXNightcoreQueenXxXV216 күн бұрын

    that moment I heard: with the steal chair, I knew I was in for a good ride. i'm not even in the fandom i just find people trying to thise type genetric trees fun.

  • @user-vm4kg4qi8j
    @user-vm4kg4qi8j17 күн бұрын

    PLEASE DO ANOTHER VIDEO LIKE THIS!! I LOVED it! I learned all of my current knowledge of cat genetics from you!

  • @lani2791
    @lani2791Күн бұрын

    i read the warrior cats series back in the day, growing out of it when the whole lionheart magical starclan stuff kicked in, and it’s been a good while. I recognise about half of these characters. This was very fun to watch! And educational! Thank you :)

  • @Techyena
    @Techyena18 күн бұрын

    18:58 nah dw same for me. In earlier fandom days most brighthearts were green eyed! Idk when they became blue fandomwide lol… (Needless to say because of this I give my brightheart design turquoise eyes)

  • @thezodiaclord1929
    @thezodiaclord192912 күн бұрын

    Honestly I think this is by far my favorite warrior cat genetic video I’ve seen! I really hope you do more of these!!

  • @Sushi_The_Yokai
    @Sushi_The_Yokai19 күн бұрын

    I JUST NOE FOUND OUT SOURGE IS RELATED TO FIRE STAR AND I THOUGHT I WOULE KNOW THAT AS HES ME FAV

  • @numeriacalf
    @numeriacalf15 күн бұрын

    I'm not entirely sure how I ended up on warrior cats family tree genetics video, especially considering that I haven't consumed any piece of Warriors media in over a decade. Regardless this was a fascinating video and has got me thinking I should pick the series up again.

  • @littledreamerdreamy107
    @littledreamerdreamy10722 күн бұрын

    Amazing video, I would ask for a Tigerstar family tree but there is one family tree I super care about and it's Brindleface's, which would eventually include Birchfall. Ifnyou do the Tigerstar one tho I might ask, could you mention the fact that Redtail, Spottedleaf and Willowpelt are his aunts/uncles? They're the younger siblings of his mom Leopardfoot (there's also Patchpelt but nobody cares about Patchpelt)

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    I plan on covering both bluestar and dust/fern, tho I'm not sure if I'll split them up into two trees yet. either one could end up including brindleface so she's almost guaranteed to show up eventually :3 Also oh man I forgot that they were related like that. I don't plan on including them since that's altogether Too Many Cats for me to cover in one sitting, but maybe I'll get to them later...? I'll look into it!

  • @lee_1292
    @lee_129222 күн бұрын

    good on you for not only the CC but putting it in the title. real cool :-]

  • @aidenblack7038
    @aidenblack703822 күн бұрын

    I need this video injected directly into my bloodstream your jokes are too good my ass is gonna be quoting this for MONTHS

  • @noblepaws5540
    @noblepaws554022 күн бұрын

    Please continue this trend! I absolutely adored it!

  • @muddypawss
    @muddypawss22 күн бұрын

    18:57 FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO THOUGHT HER EYES WERE GREEN I SWEAR THEY WERE GREEN

  • @littlehungrywarrior

    @littlehungrywarrior

    22 күн бұрын

    THEY WERE FUCKING GREEN

  • @rebeccab719
    @rebeccab71922 күн бұрын

    This was so much fun! You are by far the most knowledgeable person I’ve seen do this, which means you have more tools and tricks to make the characters look as much like their canon selves as possible. The back and forth up and down the family tree was also lots of fun, like a little puzzle, and you do a great job explaining and rehashing everything. I’m looking forward to the next one - whenever it comes out in the future. Tigerstar’s should logically be next, but I do hope you get around to Bluestar’s at some point.

  • @Ghostcatto_
    @Ghostcatto_6 сағат бұрын

    Me personally I would love to see Tigerstars family tree or either blue star it doesn't matter I just think tiger Stars family tree is very interesting and really fun!

  • @Equines_and_Animals
    @Equines_and_Animals22 күн бұрын

    Absolutely love this video! I’m a cat genetics nerd and I spent so much time researching all I could find, until recently when I ran out of cat genetics to research! This is quality content I want to see more of!

  • @tigerli1y206
    @tigerli1y20622 күн бұрын

    I absolutely love your character design, especially in terms of lineart/ faces! You make characters look related while still being unique and recognizable, which is hard to do imo

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