Firefly & Sam Backstory Explained! Finding Watchmakers Legacy - Honkai Star Rail Lore & Theory
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Firefly & Sam Backstory Explained! Finding Watchmakers Legacy - Honkai Star Rail Lore & Theory
What do you think? Is firefly the empress of Glamoth Empire?
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What were your thoughts on sam as firefly? 🪰
@DarkSideOfMirror
2 ай бұрын
Yes I Love the reveal so much. We get the best of 2 Worlds in one character ^^
@carl2775
2 ай бұрын
As a person who likes femboys, I see this as an absolute win
@adenanf
2 ай бұрын
I LOVE BOTH
@shockblade7975
2 ай бұрын
I think it's cool, but I'm just hoping they give them the same treatement as Dan Heng having a 4 star and 5 star form
@AubreyfromOm0ri
2 ай бұрын
@@carl2775 LMAO-
In Shakespear's "A Midsummer Night's Dream" Titania is the name of the Queen of Fairies, which is where the namesake of Titania the Empress comes from here. You should also take a look at Firefly's dress, which has definitive fairy wing patterns on it, and also watch the White Knight trailer again, where Sam is shown flying after Acheron using green magical fairy wings coming out of the suit of armor. Firefly being Titania is also the only reasonable explanation for what we see in 2.0, where the suit of armor is walking with her. Titania was created by the council for the sole purpose of leading the Iron Cavalry to victory by controlling them, and her being an artificially made human of some kind, a "living weapon", is probably the cause of her Entropy Loss Syndrome.
@tejathelegend
2 ай бұрын
Also to add onto this, small spoiler but her in game phone case has been revealed and it has a picture of a lady with fairy wings on it (most likely Titania) so I think that also makes your theory more convincing 😉
@Tyztube21
2 ай бұрын
Can we (us Trailblazers) be her Oberon if she is Titania?
@ArcadianV
2 ай бұрын
i honestly hope that shes just one of the many super soldiers and somehow acquired Titanias' armour instead
@vl_toxin_lv
2 ай бұрын
@@ArcadianVwhat that’s a weird take tbh it makes for sense for her to actually be Titania
@knighttemplaroftentacult7123
2 ай бұрын
Yup. My thoughts exactly.
the fact that firefly fought in the swarm invasion that ravaged 2/3 of the universe and managed to secure a win for sometime is proof shes top tier fighter
@jeffl4147
2 ай бұрын
It happened like a millennia ago, I don't think she's a long life species either. I think her armor was used in the war, similar to how Svarog's model and the Engine of Creation were created for specific purposes on Belobog. (S)warm, (A)nnihilation, (M)aiden/(M)achine
@fakelawchannel3026
2 ай бұрын
She didnt, she was specifically created to control Samuel 4 The Molten Knight (SAM) armor, which no one could control because it caused mind corruption. When SAM and her were being sent into battle the ship got attacked and destroyed, and both stayed floating in the space till Elio found them, so, she didnt fought the Swam, literally never, she should still be super strong obviusly.
@accelvisi2920
2 ай бұрын
She did not fought during the glamoth war. She was in a sense was one of thebatches of soldiers but then the fleet got interrupted. Huge timeskip later was found by the stellaron hunters with elio explaining the current and what happened to the empire
@NoahSSP
20 күн бұрын
@@accelvisi2920she fought in the war 🦝
@NoahSSP
20 күн бұрын
@@fakelawchannel3026new video says otherwise
If Firefly is the Empress Titania than her Fans can actually say... "At your service my Queen."
@starpeep5769
2 ай бұрын
Omg yay
@knighttemplaroftentacult7123
2 ай бұрын
Is there a downside? I don't see any.
The Swarm Disaster was one of the craziest things to ever happen in the history of the Honkai Universe. It was so huge that they could have made a game solely based on this event. Tayzzyronth The Propogation almost destroyed 2/3 of the Habitable Universe and a number of Aeons on its own. Tho its not specified which Aeons killed Tayzzyronth, i think it would have been almost impossible without The Equilibrium stepping in. I honestly hope we get more info on the Swarm Disaster with Sam's release.
@TheGamerChronicles999
2 ай бұрын
Yes! I wanted to cover that but realized that this video was already longer then I normally liked but will be its own video topic kinda crazy surprised its not talked about more!
@Muramusa723
2 ай бұрын
Didn't Lan kill Tayzzyronth? Or did I make that up in my headcanon lol
@islamsalimzhanov4399
2 ай бұрын
@@Muramusa723he didn't exist that time. Swarm happened ancient time ago. As i remember aeon of order killed him.And ,not sure, chicken wings race believed in it, before harmony absorbed order
@cid3303
2 ай бұрын
@@Muramusa723 it the combined efforts of of multiple Aeons that killed Tayzzyronth being Qlipoth hammered it to oblivion, Oroboros consuming multiple swarm insects, Ena keeping things under order due to multiple galaxies collapsing with Oroboros and the swarm fighting and Qlipoth stripping away Tazy shell and influence via its hammer and HooH the equilibrium keeping things in balance and assisting behind the curtains
@Muramusa723
2 ай бұрын
Oh ok word, I straight up hallucinated that then LMAO
If firefly is Titania, and she can control Sam remotely, it'd explain Firefly's comment about being able to "Leave the cold medical cabnit" and move with "her own body."
@azurial2016
2 ай бұрын
She's able to leave it, because is in the dream world while in the real world she's bedridden. Or need medication all the time.
SAM aka the Silver Armoured Maiden. 😊
@AdrianArmbruster
2 ай бұрын
Or maybe the Swarm Annihilation Machine.
@johnmanapol9734
Ай бұрын
After the patch it's called "Strategic Armament Mech"
Fun fact: the debris in our space is even scarier than you say. Some of the things flying around is going so fast, it’s actually dangerous and can destroy other objects. If anymore debris gets into our space, it could potentially trap us on earth keeping us from exploring space.
@Rietto
2 ай бұрын
This is why Starlink is actually a very stupid idea. A chain reaction with as many objects as we have in orbit already, can destroy the launch windows for the planet completely. Tossing hundreds more up there for no good reason just exponentially increases that risk.
It's possible that she miiight actually be Titania, during Sam's boss battle you can read the description that says that they are the last survivors of Glamoth. Also doesn't it sound funny that Glamoth could be interpreted as "Moth" being guided by "Fire"fly like a moth to the flame(fire)? An Empress guiding Gla"moth" with "fire"fly to their goals? 😏
Not that it hasn’t been done before but the samus esque reveal that firefly is sam is SUCH a good trope and idc what anyone says its AWESOME
This just makes me more curious about Elio. I don't recall anything about his background revealed up till now but it's damn impressive he could persuade someone on the level of Sam to join him. One theory that kinda make sense is if he in some way or form related to finality, whether a pathstrider or emanator since he writes stuff like it already happened and just need to hire actors for his film production. We can assume the ending of the film is satisfactory for him but by that we don't know is it a good ending or bad ending. He could be like Cid Kagenou who maxed out his luck on things conveniently follow what he wanted as the best outcome (for him, personally).
@ayacca
2 ай бұрын
He's probably just a kid like Timmie from Genshin (but with future sight)
@Rietto
2 ай бұрын
So far Elio seems to have offered something each one of his team wants the most, in order to get them to work together -- but what does a hive-mind war mecha from a dead civilization want? Or is it about the Queen's desires (is she trapped in a tank somewhere, forgotten, for thousands of Amber Eras, and reaching out through her last connected mecha?). Is 'Sam' alone in his agenda or is he a puppet, is my question.
There's this game where a planet make an army of cute girls to fight a never ending swarm of monsters called Honkai Impact 3rd, maybe they got inspiration there to make Firefly 🤣
Are we just going to ignore the sight of those weird lines on her face, looks like Honkai energy to me, similar enough. Also, the Iron Cavalry seems to be Glamoth's version of MANTIS: Massively Augmented Neo Tech Integrated Soldiers, I mean Honkai is in the name, so it was bound to pop up eventually. My contribution to the Firefly theory crafting.
@johnathanstalker2682
2 ай бұрын
Well considering we are told the Aeons use Imaginary energy which is from the tree same as the Honkai. Also the fact that the Sky People will show up eventually cause they are targeting HSR Himeko and are stated to be a kind of Honkai themselves we shall see:P
I like this maybe shes like iron man cam wear her suits she can control or just operate them remotely
Am I crazy knowing our Cute Firefly is a Ruthless Fighter and I am smiling right now. 😁
@pforgottonsoul
2 ай бұрын
i legit hope some of SAMs personality seeps into firefly would be so funny if she just adopted this ruthless attitude out of nowhere.
@kairi4640
2 ай бұрын
Yes.
So what im getting at is Firefly/Sam in a black and white world she'd could end the problem easily. But put her in a morally grey situation and now Firefly/Sam struggles on what to do.
@TheGamerChronicles999
2 ай бұрын
Precisely yes if the stellaron hunters need a target eliminated shes perfect but otherwise she struggles since making her own judgment and giving herself orders she struggles with
@ArpTakao696
2 ай бұрын
@@TheGamerChronicles999 and have to follow elio script
The swarm is not weak to fire, that’s why they’ve lost
Firefly: Silly me , i killed thousands of thousands of people
@NuckelCell
2 ай бұрын
Villains you mean xD
@ciosaforever
2 ай бұрын
@@NuckelCell right
Hey I was wondering, do you think Sam/Firefly will be a fire or wind character? On first glance you would guess fire since that is the element Sam uses in the fight. I however think she will become wind as part of her character growth. The main reason I think that can be found in the Penacony trailer. You don’t see her use fire in that trailer but rather the tech from her suit that makes her fly.
fantastic video also didn't know that about out own atmosphere kinda scary
I think Elio sent Sam to Stelle/Caelus to grow in some way.
Idk to me it seems like Firefly has a dissociative identity disorder. Firefly: "I love their Oak Cake Rolls! I get one from here every day!" Sam: "You should really stop playing with your food Kafka!" Firefly: "I can be a little bit camera-shy - just don't laugh at me." Sam: "I will... set the seas ablaze. Once you're back in the real world, remember to tell everyone about the Stellaron Hunter who was behind your ultimate departure."
@araarashinigami
2 ай бұрын
The edgy over the top Batman Sam is only in the EN version, not the CN or JP. Same just like Aventurine being 110% flaming gay only in the EN take. CN and JP Sam is actually pretty chill, polite, and feminine. In fact in many languages it’s known from the beginning that Sam is female simply by her manner of speech and self reference.
@PazifistenJack
2 ай бұрын
@@araarashinigami yeah i dont know about the CN version but the JP version certainly tells us to die in a very polite way.
@Obs13ver
2 ай бұрын
And why would it fall as DID? People need to stop throwing mental health terms as buzzwords. The efficient killing machine that Sam is could simply be due to the mecha nature still following traces of a code or protocol.
@PazifistenJack
2 ай бұрын
@@Obs13ver yeah "could", "maybe" you can make up whatever you want idc.
@Obs13ver
2 ай бұрын
@@PazifistenJack idk, try read the contexts and diagnostic criteria of DID? Especially how it relates to a child’s development (or lack of) of the sense of self/ego, or the failure to integrate aspects of personality giving rise to “split” personalities. There’s a trauma angle as well, so yeah? You can make up stuff you want, but atleast try to make sense especially when you throw in real-life stuff at it
correct me if im wrong: SAM means Swarm Annihilation Machine?
@theblazingphoenix2549
2 ай бұрын
oh that could actually work
@lusse2
2 ай бұрын
This might be it 😃
@NuckelCell
2 ай бұрын
I can only say according to leaks the suit name is Samuel.
@Auramaki_
2 ай бұрын
That's a good guess. I was also thinking sam could be an acronym. Most likely itd be Swarm Annihilation Mecha instead
Thanks for this video. Indeed a layered and interesting character to have in the roster
my ruthless machine of mass destruction cant be this cute!
Firefly: The Power Ranger of HSR
Sam and firefly being SamUS is a hilariously spot on comparison
Are you telling me this adorable girl is a helldiver in space?
What I don't understand is how nobody wants to address the memory we saw before Firefly was "killed" by the meme. She was talking to Mecca and even arguing with it. Who was that Mecca? And why Firefly wasn't wearing a disguise as "Sam" during that period? Here are some questions that need answering: 1. Stellaron Hunters were invited to the festival. Why did Firefly appear as herself in Golden Hour without a suit? We know she can't use a Dreampool because she doesn't have a physical body? Why did she deliberately break the rule by becoming a stowaway? 2. Can Firefly easily transport her consciousness beyond veil, why it was necessary then to sacrifice herself to the meme? 3. Who was another Mecca? During Trailblazer meeting with Firefly there was a report of a person in silver armour spotted in the Dreamscape. Was that also Firefly? 4. Why was Sparkle so adamant to prevent Trailblazer from spending any time with Firefly? 5. How did Firefly manage to get her consciousness into the Dreamscape if she can't dream? Did Silver Wolf hack the system and sent her there? 6. Was the Stellaron Hunter we fought really Firefly or somebody else? Unless the Mecca was controlled remotely I can't see how could that be Firefly that was a short time ago dispatched by the meme beyond the barrier. 7. Who else can cross the barrier? We know of Acheron and Black Swan.
@akirakan5086
2 ай бұрын
There was a theory I heard that she wasnt arguing with a mecha, but rather was on comms with Silver Wolf, and her shouting "Mecha?!" was a response to SW telling her she should go mecha.
honestly these videos are my therapy. i'm a newer player that binged the main story of 2.0 and 2.1 in the past few days and I have so much whiplash on firefly it's making my head spin. I was instantly in love with her like many others apparently were. Going from watching her die to seeing her revealed to be stellaron hunter Sam left me in a very weird mental state.
Sam and Kafka were the ones to get Blade to join the stellaron hunters but well Sam did the fighting and Kafka used spirit whisper talking to him
...soooo...she is a helldiver ?!😅
@TheGamerChronicles999
2 ай бұрын
Haha yeah guess so 😂
@GabrielMichaelDels
2 ай бұрын
In space!
I was shocked to see Firefly reveal herself as Sam, it was cool though. I am curious how she’ll work in game though because is she going to be destruction as Sam or be preservation as Firefly. I am just happy she is not dead.
All I remember about swarm is the simulated universe thing where you hug a egg, and the insect crawled into you. 😂 That passage forever stuck in my mind. 🤣
Thank you for reminding me of this. Hoyo does love their older game references
So what I’m gathering is that Sam is a Warframe, and Firefly is his Tenno/Operator.
Just Imagine Genshin did something similar. We get to the big reveal of The Captain in Natlan and it’s turns out to be Lumine or more likely Dain.
You are here after seeing firefly backstory animation
Genuinely insane backstory Can’t wait for the 2.2 reveal
also her animations when she goes into her combustion state has green flame different from what we see when its just sam fighting, and its seems its firefly exerting her own power. and she gets wings, now you could say "wings cause firefly" but they really look like a version of fairy wings. Titania is commonly the name of the fairy queen in folklore and Shakespeare.
Penacony's story so far has had so much twists that frankly im not ready to accept anything easily at face value until more context is given in future stories Remember in 2.0, Firefly seemingly got killed, then in the quest right after that, Black Swan led us through some memory echoes showing that Firefly was interacting with someone (seemingly the "mecha" she was verbally speaking to), and the quest culminated with a standoff against Sam. if you now add in the piece of info of Firefly = Sam, those plot points in the 2.0 story still don't make total sense.
@theblazingphoenix2549
2 ай бұрын
The only things I can think of is if Mecha is actually an A.I part of her armor, so maybe she referring to her own armor betraying her. Maybe it can take control of her body and make her do stuff. It could also be that she knew she was being watch and was throwing us for a loop by making us think they were two different persons. If it not those two, then I can't make sense of that scene at all in hindsight.
@akirakan5086
2 ай бұрын
@@theblazingphoenix2549 Theres a theory that she was on comms with Silver Wolf and her shouting "Mecha?!" was a response to Silver Wolf telling her she should go mecha
Amazing back story and great video! This makes me want to pull Firefly and annihilate Swarm Disaster.
Gamer chronicle please don’t ever stop uploading theory videos😭
With a origin story for firefly just dropping like 30 mins ago, well.. idk how to feel.
Oberon vortigerne: everything is a midsummer night dream
good to see new Gundam Aerial
Maybe that's how she got back so quick from beyond the veil If she can control Mecca heid1878 S not to say she can control multiple at the same time flyer Firefly died that Mecca died that form of her died but there was another one round the corner helping her Hence by in the flashback there were tpoop Firefly and a Mecca she didn't call it Sam or anything And that's how she was able to come back from beyond the just switched her consciousness and change the mecca into the firefly so we would recognize her
titania theory goes hard. i mean we straight up know firefly is Sam's model type, so its possible that was the name given to her upon creation because she was a tool. Or... she forgot her original name but remembered firefly
I also thought of her being Titania. It all just checks up.
so you're trying to say Sam is just a helldiver
@TheGamerChronicles999
2 ай бұрын
Haha yeah guess so!
I knew about the iron fleet but I never even considered that Firefly might be Titania! Fascinating theory, and I like the route that could go. But I'm kinda hesitant that they'll go that way, since there's a couple small holes >< Just a couple though!
Interesting
cant say i didnt draw that samus connection either haha
@JulesTheChaos
2 ай бұрын
Same. Samus is one of the coolest video game characters ever created. I don't get the haters, that think SAM lost their badass factor just because it's piloted by a woman.
i wanted firefly to be another clara, lil sis with guardian big bro(bot) so there can be memes of the two pokemon battling each other lol
i was a tad underwhelmed in the moment she was sam but its growing on me
Another point in favor of Firefly being Titania is that back during the 2.0 story when we were retracing her steps, one of Firefly's lines was her calling out "Mecha!", as if she owned the suit and it can move on its own.
It was only in this video that I realized for the first time that Sam was wearing high heels...
Saving for her
Im in camp "disappointed by Firefly being Sam because I really like Sams JP VA and was so jazzed for him to have a Star Rail character"
@renfeix
2 ай бұрын
real, I was hoping for em to be separate characterz D:
I like the idea that she might be Titania herself
The Council is this Star Wars I want character that have a light shaver and can use the force please hoyo 🥺
@anxioshcrg490
2 ай бұрын
Griseo(Adult) exists in Honkai Impact 3rd
Fire fly is a badass and best girl❤
I see her story as the nordic mythology, those iron warriors are the “valkyries” and she was made only to fight.
Sam is really powerful right now remember what she said about Sampo?
I like the idea of Sam being a lone survivor more.
Is sam a hell diver that survived?!
Makes sense really. The lore says she's a lone soldier but since this is Hoyo, the devs can change the lore to say that she's Titania like Genshin with the Wanderer/ Scaramouche.
at least now i have to pull for Sam, cus he's a waifu. i collect waifus
her story are already lake since 2.0
Peak setup
The only thing debunks this theory is the swarm happend more ember eons ago
Firefly is a Tekkaman
I too thought Samus was a robot as a kid until i got older versions of super smash bros. If people want gigachad robots there's always future versions and Screwllum
Do we know if she is confirmed to be still alive, dead or missing?
@LulzSec011
2 ай бұрын
You mean titania?
I know that Hoyoverse is trying to paint The Stellaron Hunters as a generally bad/evil organisation but I think they don’t seem as evil as Hoyoverse trying to imply. Which is why I find it a good twist that Firefly is also Sam. Maybe they are trying to show (albeit a bit subtle) that maybe The Stellaron Hunters aren’t that bad an organisation.
Firefly best girl
Firefly being Titania would make sense even with the "transformation" we saw at the end of 2.1 and that would give an explanation towards the "failed 11 times to tell us" part. She tried going back on her own (as Firefly), multiple times, but failed. The one time possible is when she basically became SAM (who was still in the upper dreamscape by that time). This a dream, so anything could happen. As she technically is SAM, its possible she was able to return from the lower depths by entering the suit through some weird dream shenanigans. SAM and Firefly (in the dream) being two individuals would also explain how SAM was able to be in the hotel lobby so quickly even after Firefly's undoing at SUD.
FOR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!!!
Yeah, I support the Firefly as Titania or a daughter she wanted to have some freedom. Like, Elio only giving Sam the fixed points that he does, I think form his point... its most charitable. With the fact they're working off of scripts, it's maximizing her freedom and options to try.
Im still simping for him or her? At least she cute
as i listen to this im starting to think that firefly is titania...
Glamoth should have just dropped all the debris on their moon(s). That might have helped with the problem 🤷♀️
She is samus
Badass killer gigachad sigma robot, is revealed to be a cute anime girl. Wow.
All I know is Firefly is the best wife in game along with Silver wolf
She’s just mechamaru
also u had a 64 growing up ur old ahaha great video though!
@TheGamerChronicles999
2 ай бұрын
64? I had duck hunt before that!
There's more evidence to presume she's just an Iron Calvary pilot then some level of royalty.
Glamoth went for Genetic Ascension, didn't survive Endgame Crisis.
The one part that doesn't fit the rest was firefly speaking to "mecha" as if it were a separate person and then it just being her armour. Also you're going to hell for the Sam-us gag.
@forentegaming1971
2 ай бұрын
I think she was speaking with sw.
@user-gb5wb9vy2w
2 ай бұрын
@@forentegaming1971 That would make sense but didn't she use the name "mecha"? I thought it implied that her armour had an AI in it.
@forentegaming1971
2 ай бұрын
@@user-gb5wb9vy2w to visit that area was cheat code from sw, since when hunters so generous on their information and reveal stuff. I guess it was tweaked
@user-gb5wb9vy2w
2 ай бұрын
@@forentegaming1971 Yeah i get that this part obviously pointed to SW and firefly being linked to hunters and Sam but what i am saying is that it made Sam out to be a separate character (mecha) and firefly's partner. Kind of like a Cortana. So its weird that it just happened once.
@Borara3
2 ай бұрын
Tbh maybe it was that Firefly knew Black swan would be able to discover who she really is. And to stop her she made a fake story on how her mecha(Sam) betrayed her and left her to die.. Or black swan intentionally gave fake information. Lying about what happen to firefly by altering the memoria. To make sure that Acheron would fight Sam so she can get the TB out of there.. making both of them enemies..
I like firefly, i like sam, I dislike firefly being sam, I LOVE not having to pull for them both
FIRST
C'mon, hoyoverse, you can keep Firefly as the serious side of Sam but at least give the suit an AI that refused to talk.
I would like to firefly to actually talk like sam lol, like all serious no joke , Mess and you will regret attitude , straight edgy
Kamen Rider Sam
The only good news in the event space Junk clogs out skys and destroys out Satellites is that the Internet actually runs on undersea cables. So we'll still be able to watch your videos regardless.
I'll be honest, I don't understand most of what you just said. I think you repeated a couple of things, but they way you structured this video...was a lot of ideas that aren't really well organized, so I'm more lost than even before. I recommend working on organizing your ideas so you are more succinct and easier to understand.
I just want a Video of all of SAM'S Voicelines as Firefly's.
No one else was hoping Sam was just a robot mech piloted by the black cat?
My only regret with the Sam-Firefly thing is that it relegates Sam's VA to a voice modulator or something, and I thought his VA was pretty cool and was kinda hoping he was at least an AI or something.