I should clarify I dont think Robin is legit dead dead just that her death was different so I'm not sure if it was staged to look like that to put Sunday on his track but she is playable so guess we'll see soon enough! Also see a few asking why they dont just "kill themselves" to make it there well a regular death wakes u up in your bath, Kinda like the first time we met Acheron she slashed us and we woke up on the express, The circumstances have to be special like the death meme or Acheron spacetime sword not sure exactly how it works but thats the significance of what Aventurine was gambling on when provoking Acheron, Hope that makes sense?

@OasisShop-nl5xs

3 ай бұрын

ahhh kk was literally coming to comment that haha don think she is dead either

@OasisShop-nl5xs

3 ай бұрын

think it was sparkle that staged it possibly since she was dressed like robin talking to sunday?

@asoret

3 ай бұрын

Actually Robin marks looks like gallagher power, I mean what you see in his gameplay, so seems like he did it himself for some reason

@TheGamerChronicles999

3 ай бұрын

Yeah its possible thats interesting though​@OasisShop-nl5xs

@donniel1403

3 ай бұрын

With the meme, we aint sure yet but with Acheron, its because shes an enamanator that Aven gambled that she can possibly cut through the barrier, something the Family created, having been blessed by an Aeon herself and all. She also said in that scene that there is no real "death" in penacony, and that Aven won his gamble. She cut him with the barrier, now hes going further to investigate, seems like robins also doing the same? 🤔 She presented more capable in the letters, and may seem she baited Gallagher into "killing" her to get closer to the truth, like Aven. We'll also have to see if Sunday will also end up like Firefly who tried but couldnt, like will he be back as well? Since he knows its Gallagher, maybe not, but it seems Acheron also already knows when we read the List of Characteristics but kept it from Welt. We'll see if she makes her move or wait for the departed to come back from the "dead" cos ya know, itll be a waste if they set it up but not have them come back with their findings. But i dunno maybe we'll also have to "die" and find them ourselves _(:з」∠)_

There's actually a theory that Gallagher is a dog (as in, like, the Watchmaker's pet canine). He: Hates chocolate, apparently bit people in his youth, complains about the Family taking his fangs away, claims to be thirteen (pretty old for a dog, way too young for a human), his texting description is 'Penacony's Hound', and his first Eidolon is literally called 'Salty Dog'.

@thawingkarma233

3 ай бұрын

Didn’t the new drinksmith event mention something about the monsters being children locked away by the Family or something like that?

@user-pv2fz6wm2g

3 ай бұрын

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@tuba1452

3 ай бұрын

the 13 part was most likely him refering to Tarot's XIII card, Death. the 13 was capitalized, which means it wanst just his age

@willrmmerhunter

3 ай бұрын

To me 13 was"thirteen centuries" since contextually they speak of events occuring several centuries ago before and after that line.

@Kira-mu2im

3 ай бұрын

13 is the years that Gallagher has been disguised for he is not real its a disguise

13 is also death in major arcana: and they added the line where sunday calls gally "follower of the enigmata' on friday during a hotfix

@someoneinasia

3 ай бұрын

at the same time, they nerfed aventurine boss to oblivion.

@Coldene

3 ай бұрын

​@@someoneinasia Then I'm glad i did the boss fight before that thb

@xklappergestellx6268

3 ай бұрын

​@@Coldene same here.

@freshacado4304

2 ай бұрын

@@someoneinasia i remember he kept rolling 9s on the bets and i used jingliu to hit 3 dices, but it ended up being 8.. i remember i won by tossing out my ultimate before my characters get penalised lol passing everything to jingliu

I feel like no one ever brings up that Misha's pupils are literally key holes. I doubt this was just a fun, creative choice for his character design. I'm assuming this is some sort of nod that he is either the key to all of this, or that perhaps he is in some way a door that might allow people to visit the depths of Penacony without having to get shish kabobed by "Death" or blown away by an Emanator. Mind you that there are a lot of key shaped doors in Penacony, so the idea that he himself is a door makes sense.

@AoiArray

3 ай бұрын

Not to mention how he just pops up in the between or how he can see Clockie. I'm thinking hotel butler/cleaning crew was just a clever cover up for the freedom he needs to do his work and secretly has us giving the Clockie statue energy for something big

I think Robin and Sunday made it to the "real" penacony, but Firefly couldn't because she can't dream (from what I remember she told this to Acheron) so I imagine she woke up in the real world when she was killed instead of the real dreamscape.

@violincameos2464

3 ай бұрын

OMG YOU'RE RIGHT i forgot about that! sam (or firefly i suppose) reveals herself to be incapable of dreaming, which must mean she can't reach the level of deep unconsciousness required to access the real penacony (some really interesting implications there about how the different levels of penacony can be reached through different depths of sleep, hmm)

@KubaA7

2 ай бұрын

Is it known how is she able to enter the "regular" dreamscape without being in the hotel? Cuz afaik they couldnt find her neither in dream nor in reality.

I think what Gallagher meant by "the most shameful stain" wasn't actually his feelings, he was referring to The Family. He says right after that The Family pretends to praise The Watchmaker while lambasting him behind closed doors. And in his character story it talks about how him and presumably Mikhail "fought against oppression" and that Gallagher "day after day waits for someone who will never return". Gallagher targets Family members and calls them out on their hypocrisy for praising the Watchmaker outwardly and hating him behind closed doors. I don't think he has disdain for his father because he even says he wants to find him or what is left of him even if its a ghost because of his regret for not helping Mikhail when he needed it

@TheGamerChronicles999

3 ай бұрын

It states that he said that aabout the watchmaker u think its misleading like he's talking about the family? Its a possibility forsure I'll keep that in mind

@shutup1037

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheGamerChronicles999"stain" for the Family is what he meant

@Charlett

3 ай бұрын

Well the Clockie universe is an anology to the Watchmaker and Family so he is talking about Family thinking about Watchmaker as a stain on Penacony​@@TheGamerChronicles999

Idk why but I get the vibe that Gallagher and Robin might be working together hence why he killed personally instead of with the Meme.

@ravenfantasy5680

3 ай бұрын

glad not the only one who thinks that

@TheGamerChronicles999

3 ай бұрын

Yeah her death is the the standout to me something strange is going on

@ariesdelastella9831

3 ай бұрын

At this point, with Penacony having such convoluted characters, I’m willing to bet Robin being a double agent. Would’ve put a shine on how Sunday, who was supposedly always have a tight grip on the Family, couldn’t see pass brotherly love to see how his sister was helping enemies infiltrate and slowly destroy his life’s work.

Gallagher is one of the few "children" of the Watchmaker. A lightcone has been leaked recently, and there is a pic of 3 people, including pompom (on the express). Those are: a tall blue haired man wearing the same attire from the watchmaker relic set we have ingame BUT without the vest (probably misha's grandpa on his youth), a girl with brown hair and big round glasses (the hamster?) and then.. gallagher is shown next to them he looks completely differently his appearance is more "treated," and he's wearing an attire with some green on it. ● Gallagher said he's 13 13 in Arcana (hsr tarot) is a death card. ● Gallagher is only referred to as an officer by the families but not to other penaconians, it seems... ● He uses four traits from people of the family to create another identity 'age 13'x'4 traits' = 52 = (listed victims of the death meme ingame). ● After reading the list of the victims Acheron acknowledges the existence of repetitive familiar traits leading to one person (Gallagher).

@freshacado4304

2 ай бұрын

i remember one of the dialogue options when we wanted to sneak around the construction site was "I know Gallagher", and the bloodhound responded with "Who?" there were so many hints i missed aaaaa

I believe Robin is being held captive by the Watchmaker. It makes sense that her drip marketing/splash art is her in a cage.

@ravenfantasy5680

3 ай бұрын

I think its the opposite, the villain from the Family is doing this and Watchmaker is a good person, thats why Family hates him. If Watchmaker Clockie is evil then why would we dance with him in the ult animation?

@c.ccarlhead5744

3 ай бұрын

There is more evidence to suggest its The Family particularly this unknown "Dream Master" that Sunday is serving.

@TheGamerChronicles999

3 ай бұрын

Intersting observation will note that if it becomes true

@user-ku8yi5to4f

3 ай бұрын

Is a civil war between the watchmaker and the dreammaster but Sunday is doing things behind everyones back

@pekopeko0619_

3 ай бұрын

I think she's the purple bird we kept seeing in the background during and outside of cutscenes sometimes

Aventurine mentioned someone has already came back and I think that is Robin. The thing with Firefly is that for some reason the meme killing her didn’t work. Maybe instead she was sent back to the real world and surprised by the failure she rushed back in as Sam where he met TB, BS and Acheron and thought maybe Acheron could do it, but it didn’t work. But Sam did mention that she doesn’t dream or something and maybe that is the reason she can’t go to the other side of the dreamscape and maybe the only reason she can even get into Penacony’s dreamscape is with some help from SW hacking. That would mean Robin is the one that went in and came back. And now she is being held captive by the family. This is all because I am assuming the Family are the bad guys and Gallager and the Watchmakers are good, because if we assume Gallager is connected to the Watchmaker, he has to know that killing both Robin and Sunday won’t kill them, so his true purpose was to send them to the other side, maybe so they can find the truth and join the Watchmakers side. Otherwise it would make not much sense sending them there instead of killing them in the real world. So that is my theory. But we’ll have to wait to see what happens.

@user-yv9gt7ym9s

3 ай бұрын

I think that Sam/ Firefly is part the plan in the beginning. I believe that she and Gallagher are already working together with how Gallagher just let us go when the other bloodhounds were after us. It was their plan all along with Gallagher to influence the trailblazer to search for the secrets behind Penacony and ultimately join their side. And Firefly also confirmed that her whole point was to just make the whole Astral Express to search for the Watchmaker's Legacy. So I'm assuming they reached out to Gallagher at the start, and that's when the whole meme started in an attempt to win back Penacony (?).

@yourname_test0115

3 ай бұрын

Aventurine: Don't you want to see Penacony descend into chaos? Well, I can make it happen. I just need an answer to one question: Back then, when you asked me to find a "mute"... ...Did you really mean Robin? Sparkle : ...And what if I say "no"? Aventurine: Then I'll thank you. The word "no" has never sounded so pleasing Sparkle : Well done. I admit I underestimated you, but what difference would it make? Sparkle : Let me tell you something. There were two mutes, but one is dead now, and the other... Though he's still in Penacony, I'm afraid you'll never find him again. So yea it's not robin..

Now knowing who firefly really is and her part in the script, the 1:19 scene where at first she clenched her fist and let go makes sense, she didn’t want to reveal she is Sam and also she wants to “die” to get to the real penacony P.s I typed this before 3:44 where our beloved gamer chronicles explained 😢😅

The watchmakers legacy is clockie all along

Something I have belived for a long time (And now I'm almost certain) is that Gallagher had no involvment in Firefly's "death". That was probably part of the Stellaron Hunters plan from the start, since with it Sunday though that Robin and *another person* were killed almost at random by the "Meme", which all lead to Adventurine's confrontation and everything we see in 2.1. With this Sam appeared and started the fight with Acheron, he wanted to "die" in order to get closer to the Watchmaker's legacy, but like he said, failed since Acheron saw through and knew who was in the mecha (Probably will keep on trying with other ways) It was all part of Ellio's script for Gallagher to get closer to Sunday (Since it is still part of the script, the Astral Express crew will solve everything, since that's the point).

@Katara-kr9xg

3 ай бұрын

But Sunday orcastrated their meeting on his own not the hunters so u think it attacking firefly 2 times had nothing to do with gallagher even though he was responsible for attack sunday?

@FichaGris

3 ай бұрын

@@Katara-kr9xg To be fair, we still don't clearly know why Sunday suspected Gallagher, from a story standpoint it makes sense since there were clues pointing that someone "from inside" was doing it all, and with the characters presented the logical option was Gallagher, but we as spectators still lack context. As for Firefly, the second was a "fake" attack, Gallagher has no reason to attack a random (Except the first attack, since there both the Trailblazer and Firefly were getting to close to the truth), and we know that the Stellaron Hunters have their ways to fake this scenario (Silver Wolf), as with it then a Sam vs Acheron would happen. Of course Sunday acted by himself in order to meet with Gallagher and there was no interaction with the Stellaron Hunters, however what the Stellaron Hunters did put him on edge (Making it look like the attacks were random), which in return made all the events in 2.1, and the meeting between him and the "Meme", it's all part of the script.

@Katara-kr9xg

3 ай бұрын

@FichaGris Ya seems hinted at but you have a point they did a good job at making it hard to know ehats going on hate we gotta wait to find out

@FichaGris

3 ай бұрын

@Katara-kr9xg Yep, that's the reason why theorycraft about the story is interesting. Of course, I hope my theory is the correct one, but in case someone else presents a better theory or the actual truth is something else then I'm still happy that I tried to make sense of all 😅

@KyuubiDragon4

3 ай бұрын

@FichaGris Well, in regards to Sunday suspecting Gallagher, I think it has something to do with the amount of time and effort he's been putting into investigating the death cases (when Welt and Acheron are snooping through his files he'd compiled a list of a lot of victims, not just Robin and Firefly), as well as his investigation of the 52 suspected Family members (the same 52 Family members that Gallagher has compiled his appearance from, which Welt and Acheron also found a list of in Sunday's house). As far as I can tell, what happened was that Gallagher compiled his appearance, started his murder spree, and when witnesses were questioned his features kept getting brought up - except they aren't actually his features, so Sunday's extensive investigation wound up with 52 different suspects instead. But Sunday, being the keen observational control freak he is, realized that Gallagher shared all these features with the suspects, and from there realized that he didn't actually exist and thus zeroed in on him as the culprit. That's how I interpret it, at least.

since we know the attack on sunday was gallagher more then likely was on firefly as well since it attacked her twice

Gallagher never said he was 13, he said he was Thirteen. Biblically it symbolizes misfortune, in tarot cards which I'm pretty sure Black Swan is related to, it is the death card. Sunday already said that he believes Gallagher was related to the meme of death but then Gallagher basically just confirmed it and nobody realized.

I don't think Gallagher's the one killing people - I think it's Sunday. Not that Sunday *consciously* knows that he's source of the thing, but I think there are a few clues pointing in this direction: 1. It is said more than once that the culprit would have to be "as strong as one of the heads of the Family" or variations thereof. Sunday is the head of Oak. 2. Sunday is covered in eyes, on his halo, his suit, and they're vertical like the eyes of the meme. Coincidence? 3. When Sunday is attacked, the meme comes out of his shadow. 4. It only 'killed' Robin after she sent her brother a letter to tell him that she's on the trail of the killer. This told his subconscious (and therefore the meme) that she was now a threat. 5. The heads of the family are watching Sunday (the Nightingale, the Hound) and the Dreammaster keeps telling him to ignore the deaths and focus on the festival - because they know (or suspect) that if Sunday stops freaking out, the deaths will slow or stop. So why? And how? I think that Sunday's runaway anxieties are manifesting as "Something Unto Death". Probably this will tie back to his childhood and how he and Robin came to be orphans and were adopted. Cut to a few years before the Express crew arrives - the dream is starting to come apart, and a few people suffer unusual incidents that result in disappearance or even death (other memes do exist, and can be dangerous). Sunday gets paranoid. He starts hunting a source for all the problems, a single enemy that can possibly be defeated. A mastermind to blame - maybe the Watchmaker? He obsesses over it... unintentionally making something truly dangerous begin to grow. The more energy he pours into stopping 'It', the worse it gets. Watching the cut scene, it seems like Gallagher didn't plan to attack Sunday. I think he planned to confront the killer - but realized during the conversation that Sunday honestly doesn't know the true source of the meme. That's why Gallagher says, "You know, in the thick of things, people are blind to the grit in their eyes... yet they can always feel its scratch. Want the answer? I'll give it to you. The whole thing is just fate playing a cruel joke on us." In other words, Sunday is blind to the fact that the enemy he wants revenge against is Sunday himself - a cruel joke if ever there was one. TL:DR - Gallagher isn't the killer and Sunday is nuts (and the killer).

@planetary-rendez-vous

3 ай бұрын

Insane chef, we shall see if your restaurant will like your dishes

Very nice video. Explained a lot of things I was already curious about :)

When Gallagher says that he's 13 he isn't referring to his age. The number 13 in Tarot Cards symbolizes death so when he told the Astral Express that he's 13 he was really telling us that he was the murderer.

I'm curious why the Meme teleported behind the TB just to pass up the goldenest of opportunity's to shank them and instead go for Firefly across the room.

@Coldene

3 ай бұрын

I like to think the Meme said: wait I don't want to wrongly activate the stellaron inside them.. might as well go to the other one!

@user-yv9gt7ym9s

3 ай бұрын

It's probably because Gallagher and Firefly are working together. I believe that it was their plan to " make " Firefly dead in an attempt to influence the trailblazer to dive even deeper about the Watchmaker's legacy. In majority of the story we currently have, the Astral Express didn't really have a clear goal, they were just investigating as to what's actually happening first. But since Firefly's death that's when we actually had a goal thanks to Gallagher giving us the information that the deaths might be related to the Watchmaker's legacy. I think Gallagher's intention is to make us realize the truth and to avenge the Watchmaker, reclaiming Penacony and exposing the Harmony. Meanwhile for Sam or the Stellaron hunters, it's obviously just to follow Elio's script. Firefly also said to Acheron that her whole point is to make us look for the Watchmaker's legacy. And I feel like Gallagher saying to Sunday that it's just " fate playing a cruel game on us " or something hints their alliance to the Stellaron hunters.

finally a straight answer on where they are actually going all this "the other side" WHERE!? haha thanks

When Gallagher says that he’s 13, he says “Thirteen” not “thirteen” hinting that it’s some sort of title. Although I’m not sure what it could mean I saw some post talking about how Thirteen represents death or something idk

Pretty sure sparkle confirms (however the hell she knows, I assume she's in cahoots with gallagher or someone close to him) that robin isn't a mute because she's dead but a mute because she can't - not exactly WHY she can't, but I assume it's either cause she's held hostage our out of fear If anyone can refute the above from the dialogue, feel free too, but I'm p sure this is actually confirmed - sparkle might not be the most trustworthy narrator, but I don't think she's exactly "lied" so far I'm starting to grow on the idea that Gallagher isn't actually an antagonist here, there might as well be no antagonist (maybe except the family, everyone else seems to have a separate interest in mind but not necessarily a malicious one) - my train of thought is that he killed Sunday to show him what death actually is in the dreamscape, similarly to how Sampo literally gasses us (though admittedly this one's a bit more of an extreme prank) But that's assuming Sunday has no idea what's going on which I don't think is unlikely, his conversation with Sparkle and Gallagher seem to imply that he genuinely believes that death brings, well, death Maybe there's more to it with there not being a guarantee to survive the land of exile, thus him believing robin's actually dead, we haven't really gotten much out of Sunday besides that he believes that Robin is dead, either metaphorically (held hostage due to what she learnt) or literally

No one's gonna talk about the bird? Pls give theories

Guys ik my question is unrelated to the vid but… should I try pulling for E2 Gallagher? I am planning to put Galla with Boothil, Ruan mei and Harmony MC, i feel like it’s a must right?

Might be on to something about sunday and sparkle kinda forgot about that whole scene tbh

Funny Idea: what if the "Sunday" that Gallagher killed that time was actually Sparkle 🤔 that would be a great help for Sunday, because that would mean he would get proof of his suspicions

tbh I wish there was a cutscene rewatch feature in this game because so much of the confusion that people have would be solved if they could just go back and rewatch a scene easily without going to a third party. Not everybody is willing to search up videos or playthroughs to dissect the information and it leads to a lot of misinterpretation and sometimes some really bizarre takes on social media lol. Media literacy issue, I guess.

Thanks for the video. The story was so interesting but super confusing at times, so this helps a lot. In my point of view, Gallagher is planning to send key people into the real Penacony with the help of "Death" to fulfill his promise to his father, but he doesn't really kill anyone. I think we only see Gallagher in the Dreamscape so he can easily imagine or create his own appearance no ?

spot on imo besides robin being dead but probably like u said staged has sparkle written all over it since she was dressed like her talking to sunday

Am I weird for thinking that Sunday is actually the one that attacked Gallagher in the final scene, rather than Gallagher attacking Sunday? Before we hear someone get stabbed, we see a messy, spiky shadow form out of Sunday’s shadow. Plus Sunday’s outfit is covered in “eyes” that are similarly shaped to the death meme’s eyes

@midnight.blue42

3 ай бұрын

If you slow down, you can see that Sunday is stabbed

So did I get this right, that everyone killed by the meme will go to the other side, the real Penacony? Except Firefly for some reason. But there was this list in Sundays office of people who were killed by the meme. What happens with someone after getting killed by the meme?

I remember there is a theory that Firefly was able to survive because she was incapable of dreaming. The only way for Firefly to enter the dream world is by Silver Wolf's Aether Edit transmission technique. (since SW can transport your body to "nothingness")

I should just replace the word "explained" with theorycrafted for all of these kind of videos because 90% or more of them are just that. Some better than others.

Is interesting to think that the monster that galageur controls can symbolize a myth about what is death it self in penacony like it can mislead people (like firefly) to think that is the way to get to the truth but in reality it isn’t Archeron is one of the ways to get there. I don’t know I find intriging that the one that spreads the myths controls the monster that is the myth itself

makes sense why he's killing anyone that finds out the truth now that we know he follows the path of Enigmata.

Hear me out. Gallagher and Misha did the Parent Trap and Misha no longer remembers.

Something that I hope we get more of is Robin. We know from Adventurine and Sparkle that Robin is a mute. Someone who has seen the truth of Penacony but cannot speak of it or bring the truth to light. March and the Trailblazer even mention that Robin's voice in the hotel sounded off, almost strained. I believe the family made Robin a mute after she witnessed the truth. And that she is working with Gallagher in order to see the real Dreamscape and find the Watchmaker.

Neat details I noticed from looking around. Gallagher supposedly took 52 family members traits, body parts or what not to make up what he is now. He mentions he's 13 when asked his age, The assumption is he didn't take any from the Oak family, leaving 4 families, or Suits, to take up 13 traits each from, adding up to 52. He's a playing card deck. Alternatively, his main color is Magenta, a color only associated with him, and with the Memory Zone meme enemies. Fun fact to stack ontop of this, Magenta is a color that in our real world, doesn't technically exist, our brain makes up Magenta to fill in the blank of what we're seeing.

Yeah, but why are there so many things designed liking penacony to Aventurine, the watchmakers coat look like something Aventurine would wear

Well, Misha isn't Mikhail. Rather, the Russian dub revealed that Misha's grandfather is more likely that when in the dreamscape area. That and lightcone art showing someone giving Misha an express ticket. None of the current Nameless match the glove, yet Mikhail would of had that ticket. That and reminded, Mikhail was active on Penacony seven centuries ago, so even in the dreamscape: the egnerations would be split and Misha's odd state would more likely be a result of this. As for Mikhail and the watchmaker's legacy: Clockie. Gallagher points out that Clockie is how Penacony had etched him into their history, even as a stain. Thus, while the land of exile is beyond the reach, Clockie seemingly can traverse around much like Misha can and with far more abilities of the watchmaker. Given the White Night trailer, we also see the TB does get some animations that have yet to bmake a direct debut, but most likely are the next trailblazer's power up which given Clockie's abilities and him being present in those moves would be harmony. Given the Trailblazer already has dabbled into those powers, the legacy itself isn't the 'truth' of Penacony. But rather what the Family has been hiding as we know from Gallagher, Mikhail died an outcast beyond the dreamscape. But turning to Gallagher: he's not just a pathstrider of Engimata. He's most likely a History Fictionologist based on his knowledge of Penacony, but also his powers and the meme? How can we deduce that? Aventurine's bet on Acheron's blade and Acheron comparing her blade to the the meme. The Fictionologists due have emanators of Mythus among them, meaning that Gallagher is in a similar spot to Phantalyia: an emanator. Not only do numerous people disappear to the meme in different ways, but we also know that Firefly's 11 attempts at death couldn't let her pass to the otherside. Much like how Elio predicted, she'd have to die at the hand of an emanator which is why she tried to get Acheron to do so, but she didn't entertain the idea. Thus, following the script: she does die to the meme. But how can we gather this? 13 is the death tarot card. 52 victims to the meme? Divisible by 4. 4 in languages like Chinese and Japanese produces the similar sound that 'die' does. Gallagher's answer of 13 wasn't really an answer to his age. It's a layered way to reveal what he is. Though why would we know he's a History Fictionologist besides his path and having a blade of an emanator? Gallagher's knowledge of Penacony and what the History Fictionologist do. They destroy local history and culture as it can often set a world on a path to destruction. Anyone familiar with Celestia in Genshin may quickly realize the comparison. This is demonized group, yet they were present during Mikhail's time and seemingly, remained present as the meme has been active long enough. Gallagher isn't a child of the watchmaker: he's the reason for the current watchmaker to try and get a message out. After all, who would invite the Annihilation Gang to Penacony for festivities? Someone trying to destroy what is a failing system. Penacony is becoming the very thing that History Fictionologist try and stop. They're demonized, but much like death: they do serve a purpose. If Misha is the current watchmaker (which his ability to stop time would suggest that), than more likely the targets of Gallagher weren't random. 52 victims. All of the 5 families in Penacony. And two mutes of interest: one being Robin. Who has suspected the Family has been up to no good due to the interference with the Harmony. Which lines up with Penacony's failing state, yet heads of family are trying to cover it (see the letters to Sunday when playing Welt & Acheron's part). Robin went to the true Penacony and more likely witnessed the true ramifications of the dreamscape being overloaded. The 5 families have been trying to preserve an image for so long that it's poisoned the world. They have demonized the very man who helped build it in the first place and as a result, someone like Gallagher has begun to cull. Elio using his powers would see who among the Stellaron Hunters who could enter the dreamscape and die to the meme most efficiently. Firefly, a child who cannot dream like others due to her biological nature and her metal coffin in Sam, corrupted so much by the Swarm that in Penacony: it can take on traits of Firefly herself. How so? Consider when Black swan tries to view the past and locate Firefly that she and another companion are moving around. They suspect it's Sam, a metal figure. Firefly did try to die through normal means, but again: it takes something sharp enough to penetrate the barrier that even memokeepers can't do. However, the meme can and Firefly's dual nature most likely means that unlike Robin, she can return to Sam even if just herself dies and not the suit. This would explain why Sam is running around and even challenges Acheron. Sam itself didn't perish to the meme, but Firefly had. And eventually, Firefly does awaken from the true Penacony to return to Sam. There is far more that can go on, but if anyone ponders why Aventurine could piece together Acheron's blade was what he needed and is comparable to the meme: Diamond. Aventurine works directly for an emanator and as seen, even with a broken cornerstone, a fragment of a fragment of Diamond's emanator power: the express crew weren't even scratching him. Yet a full emanator proved his bet correctly and permanently marked the dreamscape. Which gives the IPC a leg in as the Family cannot deny death, even if from a 3rd party. As this means any of the meme's previous victims would be of question now. The gambit Aventurine played only certified Acheron's own thoughts as well and Sparkle herself being in the know as Masked Fools also have their own relation to Aha. Though this is even before bringing up Sunday's being a pathstrider of Ena rather than Xipe and the ramifications that has as well as how much din imagery Sunday has. Which brings up Odin's method to obtain knowledge as well and Odin's control of everything being what ultimately dooms him in a manner.

@onibush8995

3 ай бұрын

Wow :0

@Charlett

3 ай бұрын

One thing incorrect is about Aven The cornerstone has power of an Emanator, but Aventurine destroyed his, making it weaker Acheron was supposed to match his power, saying that they are on similar lenghts Its minor detail, but still worthy to mention

@shinigamiryan5837

3 ай бұрын

@Charlett A cornerstone most likely even in fact couldn't match a full Emanator's power due to the very nature that a.) there are at least 10 with one even symbolically made for Diamond himself, and b.) Emanators draw directly from that of their aeon to a degree. Aventurine in this case breaking his does weaken him, but still means that he is above all, but an emanator, who is above him. He also puts it in terms of betting on one last attack as to see if Acheron would finally strike as up to that point, Aventurine isn't being damaged by the Nameless. She does and only due to her figuring out his gamble.

@Charlett

3 ай бұрын

@@shinigamiryan5837 Isnt cornerstore called a body of qipiloth, an aeon? I think that aeon whos all about preserving stuff would make his power transferable to people

@shinigamiryan5837

3 ай бұрын

@Charlett While they say it resembles Qlipoth, they are from Diamond himself, an emanator of Qlipoth. Qlipoth himself doesn't acknowledge the IPC besides his 3 emanators, two of which are Diamond and another who Diamond negotiate with to send Aventurine to Penacony instead of him. The cornerstones are directly from him and why all stonehearts are beneath Diamond himself and use gemstone names as it relates to the gem their cornerstone is (Topaz, Aventurine, Jade, etc).

I'm not confident in this at all, but just thinking more about the significance of 13. I like that it's the Death arcana. I even like the idea that he's just being a goof, but I also think it's interesting that 13 is one beyond the traditional 12 hour clock structure. Lots of clock metaphors here in Penacony, and iirc the Dreamscape is divided into 12 hours. So being 13 has you kind of existing outside the traditional clock structure, outside Penacony. But now that I think on it, 13=Death, and that existing outside the Deathless dream of Penacony 1-12, that's probably more connected than Gallagher's line

How did I miss that adventurine planned to get acheron to kill him.. I missed so much lol

mikhail was indeed a nameless, misha is his creation wich likely containes the stellaron or has a mean to unlock it. I don't know what gallagher is but maybe he is after the stellaron and a genuine bad guy

Actually, the watchmaker, mikhail is misha’s grandpa, they kinda spoiled it in the Russian translation, where in that one child’s dream when misha was calling out and talking to Mikhail they translated it into “grandpa”

Penacony could be abbreviations of penal colony

The Death Meme gives you a fake death

Watchmaker is peaking through mishas eyes like peaking through a keyhole… like joseph joestar

On one hand I believe the number 13 is supposed to foreshadow he's somehow responsible for the "death" of Firefly and Robyn because the in Tarot Cards 13 is the card of Death.

13 is actually the unlucky number of Death so that could've been a hint by Gallagher that he's linked to the Death Meme

If Gallagher is like a simulacrum or a chimera, whatever he is as an entity, I think he was being literal when he said he was thirteen. Like he was created 13 years ago.

Sam can’t have dream. So he/she will instantly awake after died in dreamscape.

Did Sunday get Jlged in Ths DreamWorld? Or in real life?

The Watchmaker's Legacy is probably the Stellaeon core of the Dreamscape. I can see it manifest as a literal pocket watch or something like that.

@TheGamerChronicles999

3 ай бұрын

Ultimately yeah has to be or related in some way it always boils down to a stellaron no matter where we go

i think gal being 13 meaning one of the memo keepers cards "death"

One of the best things about Honkai Star Rail stories are they are not spoon fed to players like they are toddlers. In fact the dialogue and scenes we see are as if we were Trailblazers just getting glimpses of new characters and scenes that we are involved in... the flashbacks give us a bit more... But overall there is a sense of adventure and mystery because not all is just REVEALED. TA DAH! This is also a reason why these types of guides are welcome by fans and viewed. Helps us confirm what we have just seen.

number 13 means bad luck or something like that in Japanese or Chinese tradition, also in cards the card number 13 is named 'death'

Furthermore, if we assume everything follows Elio's script, then those who seek the Watchmaker's Legacy must be accompanied by the TB in order to reach it, as Sam(Firefly) asserts "[both she and the TB] will reap unforgettable gains" in the Land of Dreams.

What about Clockie, what's his deal.

13 is the arcana of death

Alternatively Gallagher could be trying to send the people who are close to the truth to the real Penacony in hopes of them deciding to help/save the Watchmaker (if he really is trapped), Gallagher seemed to regret betraying Mikhail during his dialogue with us (but then again that could just be him making things up lol)

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Seeing how everything in here is twists and twists, in the case that the watchmaker is not misha..... is it possible that the watchmaker is actually robin and she isn't dead, but hidden?? I know it sounds weird but i see it possible😅😅

If you have to die in the dreamscape why didn’t anyone just off themselves? I’m guessing unless it’s a very strong being that kills you can never really die.

@willrmmerhunter

3 ай бұрын

Its explained during the convo between aven and ache

@jackinuzuki2890

3 ай бұрын

Aventurine already tried that lots of times, he just get sent back to reality.

@kemivargas3771

3 ай бұрын

Which is why he makes a plan that forced Acheron to use her sword to kill him, because she's the only one that can severe the barrier that the Family set up to get to the real Penacony. She also severed the Harmony curse on him to save him

Keep the cooking!

Why did aventurine go to so much trouble to bait Acheron, when if the only requirement to go deeper is just dying? Why can't he just jump off a building or something?

@snappieboi5026

3 ай бұрын

Because I believe that they said that if anything happens to you in Peanocony, you will wake up forcibly into reality so probs Aventurine had to find another way to really “die”

@mayunaisuxx.7864

3 ай бұрын

He has said it before,he said ppl can't die in penacony no matter how and he has tested it it in many ways www

@ashleyschenk2201

3 ай бұрын

He did try that, it didn't work. The only option was the Death Meme or Acheron because those two options would cut through the barrier between fake dreamscape and the real dreamscape. Not to mention he also had a 17 hour timer and had no clue how to summon/find the Death Meme.

@db.1304

3 ай бұрын

@@ashleyschenk2201 I see ty for making it clear, I was confused by this.

@db.1304

3 ай бұрын

@@mayunaisuxx.7864 I mean I skip most of the dialogue since its neverending, that's why I come to this type of videos.

Remember the Tarot Card of 13.

I thought that the death meme came from Sundays shadow and stabbed Gallagher?

@midnight.blue42

3 ай бұрын

Nope Sunday is stabbed you can see it if you watch the scene in slow motion

Cant wait to save robin and firefly 💛 and let boothill deal with acheron

thanks man this story is so hard to understand

My speculations are as follows: They keep driving the theme that nobody is to be trusted and nobody is who they say they are in Penacony. Sparkle impersonating everybody. Firefly being Sam. Acheron "The Galaxy Ranger". Double crosses from both Black Swan and Dr. Ratio. I also think that Misha is Gallagher. I think him being 13 according to him is the one true thing he's said because the other guy who looks to be about 13ish is Misha. Nobody knows who they are. Most people can't even seem to see Misha. Maybe they're different aspects of the Watchmaker. Who knows? We'll see. I think Robin is ultimately behind this. She's trying to expose the family. The "Your Color" trailer was cutting to her applying a disguise. Telling Acheron to come find her. Robin knows the truth. That's why she was "killed". She needs the key to the real Penacony. Acheron.

Gallagher says "I'm Thirteen" when questioned about his age, and Sunday says he is made of different parts of 52 family members A deck of playing cards has 13 cards in a suit, and 52 cards total. I have no idea if this detail is important but the correlation has to be intentional

Knowing that Gallagher is part if either the riddlers or fictionlogist, we can’t even trust that he’s a child of the watchmaker

PLEASE READ THIS IT WILL GIVE YOU NEW IDEAS 4:53 im sorry to spoil too much but here's why I don't think she isn't dead. 1. Her banner art has broken bars near her leg and it looks like she is finally singing and can talk. 2. Spoiler: Her ult song "Welcome to my world." "Hear my declaration." As its lyrics but i don't know what "renew your definition." Should mean.

You could say firefly is not like other girls

I think the History Fictionologists want to erase Penacony from the face of the universe which starts with the Watchmaker's Legacy. This could also be the reason why more than one memokeeper was sent to Penacony. We might see The Enigmata and The Rememberence going to war with each other.

Misha is short for Michail in Russian language. So I think Misha is the Watchmaker

@kyokosakura3192

3 ай бұрын

Mikhail is Misha's grandfather.

i still think misha is the watchmaker but i do think there is a rat in the family as well

did you notice ? both Gallagher and Sampo have the same body type(tall/buff) and both were sus

Kind of feel like misha is the watchmaker, I know it seems like really on the nose. But he has the same name, knows the nameless and their connection to him, and his eyes are shaped like keyholes…feels like that was an intentional design. All coupled with the fact that the “watchmaker” is “somewhere he can’t be found” the only people too see misha clearly is MC and Acheron sensed him

My Suggestion? The Legacy will become MC's new 3rd Ability. I also think that,..... Gallagher is not evil. Why would we be able to play evil Characters? Where's Cocolia then? Why didn't we get her as well as playable Character? So.... Any ideas what's the Deal with those Birds we saw in the Cutscenes? I think I saw one on a collectable Card Sticker with a Guy on it, one bird on his shoulder. Maybe 'He' is the true villain? Or another watcher? So much to think about.... I can't wait to continue with the Story. ^^

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Abundant.. death

So i guess the trailblazer is gonna die in 2.2 then

The fake watchmaker is Constance. She has the power to control death.

Why'd you change your name?

@TheGamerChronicles999

3 ай бұрын

I was always planning on changing it at some point I couldnt really come up with anytning else at the time, Genshin always be my main focus until its lifespan is done but do want to branch out because my channel will die with thr game if I limit myself but cover more games with that name just doesnt feel right ya know?

@TheGamerChronicles999

3 ай бұрын

Also 3 other people have almost the exact same name as Genshin Gamer so thats another reason

XIII Arcana is Death

Or it means that he has a affinity for the death arcana of tarot decks, which are conveniently numbered 13.

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Well that's daddiest looking 13 year old i've ever seen

@DSCH4

3 ай бұрын

It made me think he's like Firefly with short lifespan and maybe explained why he prevented her from being taken into custody.

@user-yv9gt7ym9s

3 ай бұрын

​@@DSCH4 But he's a creation of the watchmaker and the watchmaker was gone/ missing for a very long time.