I mean FF was never "Weak" just to reliant on HMC her Damage with said character was still insane its just people having 0 idea how the game works complaining. However i do agree she needed work and they did amazing with V3.

@poxelus

26 күн бұрын

Her performance didn't change that much, but she became more focused on break and easier to play/build.

@sandwichsultan3659

25 күн бұрын

​@@poxelusit actually changed by a lot

@AlexBaluh

24 күн бұрын

@@poxelus The increased speed and ult duration was a bigger buff than you may think at first, she can easily reach over 200 spd and attack 3 times on first cycle. More attacks = more DPS even if her damage numbers are around the same.

@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj454

22 күн бұрын

Yeah cuz got to love been force to use another char cuz mid wothout them i see no reason to complain at all

@The_CodFish69

22 күн бұрын

@@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj454 but with that logic you could say the same about every character ya most have more Flexible teams but if one team does 2x the damage why run it over the BIS team. It's like building Kafka as a Crit Hyper carry DPS can it work with enough investment sure but its it comparable with her with BS and a DoT team hell no so just because you can doesn't mean you should. They could buff FFs self damage and people still would run HMC with her. And let's not forget HMC is a 100% free character so IDK why so many people are complaining even without RM she is good enough 2 0 cycle with a Asta instead.

I can't wait for ppl saying the bosses are too hard whilst using Crit Firefly with 0 break effect

I'm pretty sure HMC Super Break A2 buff doesnt work on Firefly, it specifically says Backup Dancer Superbreak not all Superbreak, and people on beta already confirmed its that way.

@jaydenheber2053

26 күн бұрын

Yeah it was confirmed by a leaker

@plang-plang5035

26 күн бұрын

But the SB is still stacked, so when FF deals a dmg on broken enemies she will deals 2 SB at the same time

@TaviiCatniss

25 күн бұрын

The traces doesn't effect FF perosnal SB damage​@plang-plang5035

@dianabaranowski6305

25 күн бұрын

still will be busted considering how much be she can stack on herself now

@plang-plang5035

25 күн бұрын

@@TaviiCatniss I know, but like I said. The SB can be stacked, not buffed

One thing I do find funny is how people were complaining that she was too reliant on HMC/ruan, and now she is even MORE stapled to those characters than before. Since they killed critfly and buffed her break version so much, while also allowing for HMC and fireflys superbreak to stack, there is quite literally no reason to play her with any other supports besides those two now.

@ThunderstyleYTB

22 күн бұрын

HMC, Ruan Mei, Firefly and Gallagher. Break it down!

@zigazav1

19 күн бұрын

@@ThunderstyleYTB For once, I have all the characters needed to support the new character. I've been saving up tickets too. I'm guaranteed Firefly at least once with what tickets I have, as I still have the 50/50 loss retained from Acheron's banner. But I'm still saving up tickets in hope of getting enough to pull her E1 and S0 at least. fyi, I've never pulled on Lightcone banner. And I've never went out of my way to get a limited time character's Eidolons. Firefly will likely be the first time I go for that. With all the suffering she's gotten, I'm going in further for her than I have for any other character, as she deserves it. That is, when she supposedly releases on the 18th of June for Global

When the current version came out and HMC became available I desperately collected clockie credits to max out the statue and get Eidolongs for HMC. After all that hassle I'll absolutely pull characters that shine with HMC. Not to mention I love Firefly.

Soon. Soon, I shall have all the Stellaron Hunters (until Elio is eventually released but that'll be in patch, like, 12.3).

@RS-ff7fx

22 күн бұрын

Bro I can confirm, this game won’t last till 12.3 Or I might have grown up enough to stop playing video games… Still !! Let’s do a challenge. In patch 12.2 send a reply to this msg n let’s see if we both were able to keep up our vows!

@AdrianArmbruster

22 күн бұрын

@@RS-ff7fx I was just picking a comedically high number myself. HI3rd seems to be up to patch 7.something and not over yet. So I mean given enough time it could go pretty high.

I'd say it's a good adjustment for her kit to be balance more into BE. Now we don't have to worry about going crit or hybrid. And she's more flexible with party options and alt LC bcs of her SB and new trace update

the funny thing to me is that she's still tied to HMC because they're that much great of a unit lol her doing 1 instance of 50% super break damage on her own is literally a nerf because 40% def ignore was way more cracked. people are celebrating it so much but if anything the most relevant changes were the increase in her burst uptime. since she can easily build enough speed to have 4 actions during her burst she's not that over-reliant on Ruan Mei anymore (it's still her best support along with HMC, but other supports like Asta and Pela are much more viable as a replacement in case you need RM somewhere else now). I'm just happy she was strong before and now she's just op and her best support continues to be an entirely free unit. love this game!

@NeinKyori

25 күн бұрын

40% def ignore on its own it not "cracked" unless you cope with critfly Firefly with "no RM" vs "no HTB" now perform at a comparable level (3 vs 4 cycles) whereas before she took 7-8 cycle just by replacing HTB HTB is now simply a "need" (which is okay) and not a "must" anymore. Which is how every DPSs worked before If you want to run 2 break team in MoC, it's now possible because Firefly can clear under 5 cycles with replacement while HTB carry the other break team.

@bitterblossom271

24 күн бұрын

def ignore is one of the few things that can buff break damage. considering that the other break carrier, Boothill, would rather have RM instead of HTB on any day (unlike Firefly lol), I don't think you'll be sending HTB to the other team any time soon. But sure, flexibility is always a good thing I guess, even though it's worst. It's not like she's weak or something lol

@NeinKyori

24 күн бұрын

@@bitterblossom271 You know not everyone roll for Boothill right? If people wanna play 2 break teams, Firefly on 1 side and Xuyei/Luka/Sushang on the other side, they gonna need HTB to carry them. V3 Firefly is still best with HTB, but also no longer hog them for herself

I really want Firefly but idk if I'll have enough for her after Boothill. Also there is a huge possibility of a certain Nihility unit good with Acheron releasing soon as well as Screwllum, who I want REALLY badly because he's like my 2nd or 3rd fav character in the entire game. But I like Firefly a lot and I also lack a Fire DPS, so I guess I will try to pull for her.

Great video 👍 Already farming for Firefly: Harmony MC, Ruan Mei and Gallaghar E6 are kind of ready. My plan is Firefly S1E1...Not sure about E2 and I need Ruan Mei's LC. I need a Fire DPS and like Firefly. It is perfect. 🥰

stil gonna pull i dont know what going on with her but meh wil pull cuz i like

Currently ATK buffs from all characters except Robin do work with Firefly's ATK -> BE conversion trace. This probably makes Asta her best non-Ruan Mei / Harmony TB support, since Firefly also benefits from SPD.

@sandwichsultan3659

25 күн бұрын

Tingyun doesn't work as well

@Yumiaia-26

23 күн бұрын

Why does robins not?

I have everything for Firefly in terms for characters. I only need to build Gallagher and maybe improve hmc build.

I would be pulling if she was worse than Arlan, and honestly her needing to be paired up with the HMC is a feature and not a downside for me personally. Being able to do good damage is a bonus along the way of feeding my StelFly brainrot

@bennogb5069

25 күн бұрын

I mean lets be real, if your support is doing more damage than you then youre not the OP dps but your support is the OP one.

@joey-desu

25 күн бұрын

@@bennogb5069 yesnt since no other character can make the support as good which means the dps does bring value. But imo its just horrible design to lock a limited 5star behind a specific support even if that support is free, especially if that support is the mc that will very likely be stronger with his next path again.

@The_CodFish69

24 күн бұрын

@@bennogb5069I mean by that logic it’s the same for Literally every DPS unit in the game. Go ahead run a team of just DPS and sustain in MoC 12 and see how it goes…

@bennogb5069

24 күн бұрын

@@The_CodFish69 brother thats a terrible argument. The point is that the support does like half of the teams damage or more if you run them against Imaginary or fire weakness or FF weakness implant. Then its not even that FF is good, but HMC in the future will just be busted with a better DPS and other harmony that support super break even more in the future. Not to mention HMC is the one who enables super break for all teammates, not FF. Wich makes even Gallagher hit for 100k-200k.

@The_CodFish69

24 күн бұрын

@@bennogb5069 people complain Because FF needs HMC as support to be optimal. Meanwhile same people thinks it's nonsense to not use BIS supports with any other DPS (Besides FF) Really its funny how people complain about something but when you turn it around against them they think it's unfair...

before firefly to HMC was like gepard to yanfraud but now its more like blackswan to kafka

One thing to note, Atk boost that increases firefly's atk based on her atk will only be the one that gets converted to BE, So any other Atk boost that scales with Harmony atk % will not add to the Be, For those who are confused about tingyun however, Tingyun's skill grants Atk boost based on THEIR atk and not tingyun, It is limited however based on tingyun's atk %, So her skill grants atk boost based on firefly's atk but is limited on tingyun's atk

@Yumiaia-26

23 күн бұрын

Oooooohhhhhh

how about comparing boothill to firefly? they're from the same team archetype and comes very close together, I can't pick em both but idk who to choose

As a proud e1 Ruan haver im definitely pulling

Honestly I disliked her v1 because it really felt like she was locked to one specific team (rm+hmc+sustain) but with the added super break on her own I feel like there can be more wiggle room with how to build her, ofc there'll be a couple of optimal teams but just having her be less reliant on specific team mates makes me like her more

@joey-desu

25 күн бұрын

what? theres less wiggle room with how to build her, her crit build is gone and she is still fully reliant on hmc. Yes in theory you can run her without hmc since she has her own superbreak, but metawise she would go from top 3 to the worst limited 5star in the game.

Mihoyo already started introduce boss with multiple layers of toughness, which will eventually render Sam/Firefly useless against them. If this becomes the norm for bosses, Sam/Firefly is obsolete. Her force break build only actually makes RuanMei and HTB even more required or lose too much damage output. Sure she can attack more in a single wave, but you will only get 2 off before the enemy recover their toughness, thus RuanMei ultimate to make the enemy skip their turn without recovering their toughness is a must if you want to execute all 4~5 attack in a single wave. Even if Firefly has built-in superbreak, HTB superbreak is just better.

@joshuaco2522

23 күн бұрын

except you can easily beat multi toughness boss, tried using break team on the sunday boss and with Asta, HMC, Gallagher, and Ruan Mei it was super fast to break Sunday couldn't even move. Firefly has high toughness damage so this is not gonna be a big issue. Break DPS issue is only weakness lock but there are always ways to unlock it.

As long as the trace where Hotaru can put Fire weaknesses to the enemy still remains, im good..like for real😅

I love harmony MC too. So, I do not mind at all that she is tied to HMC.

Holy, I just realised that firefly actually gets a damage boost too when she breaks an enemy using aeon So basically aeon is one of the best since she will be breaking most of the time

i would argue that she is a great choice even if you have other traditional fire dps units, unlike Hook or Himeko (sorry Hook and Himeko mains, i love them both and have them build) she is on a whole different level, she can pretty much fit all enemies due to her fire implant, i can only see her becoming even better with units than buff super break, eventually HMC will get a premium limited 5 star version as well.

@zigazav1

19 күн бұрын

I've been using Himeko for fire damage output. She'll likely be replaced with Firefly after she releases in 2.3

0:40 Hook left the chat

@B_Kaizo

24 күн бұрын

Limited**

@zigazav1

19 күн бұрын

Honestly, I don't like Hook. The way that character was written just annoys me. I don't hate kids, but they're stressful to deal with

Think a lot of detractors or doom posters are ignoring the fact that Firefly has the potential to go 4 times in a single cycle. She's a ramp up character in the similar veins as Blade & to a lesser extent Jingliu. I agree with Iyo that we should be judging dps on how much damage they do per cycle instead of a single instance of damage. Firefly should be compared to standard dps like DHIL, Jingliu, Seele & not Acheron since she's the anomoly in the discussion of dps.

If we don't have Ruan Mei, can we use silver wolf or even guinaifen? Since sw can reduce enemies' DEF and Elemental RES, while guin can maybe increase the team's damage using her firekiss talent?

@vegitoblue6969

26 күн бұрын

@@Jay2024L umm yeh now that i think about it her skills are considered ult damage but super break is infected but damage boost i think jayaq will only be good for acheron for now.

@The_CodFish69

25 күн бұрын

I mean form what I’ve seen SW with FF puts out about the same damage however it takes longer to Break you need more SPD sub stats and the Opponents recover from Break a lot faster.

@Eclin

25 күн бұрын

SW and Pela is a good choice, arguably Pela’s better in AoE where she’s good at. Defense shred in general is a good pick to boost break damage.

@Celment

25 күн бұрын

@@Jay2024L nihility units be doing everything nowadays :sob

Saving jades cuz i need both her and ruan mei 😭

V2 deals more damage against enemies when not weakness broken. I guess the dev noticed that she breaks way too fast that the higher MV became irrelevant. So they moved half of her MV into Super Break in V3. However, this also means that she struggle a lot more against weakness immune enemies.

@sandwichsultan3659

25 күн бұрын

Why would you use break dps against weakness immune enemies

@AevyCh

25 күн бұрын

@@sandwichsultan3659 Some enemies can have immunity windows (eg. Cocolia & Bronya) despite being on element (fire). I bet this will be more prevalent in the future as more enemies gets released to keep break teams in check. This change also made Firefly's damage slightlymore backloaded than the previous version as you have to break the enemies first to deal Super Break. Previously her ~500% talent multiplier + 40% def ignore allowed her to deal non-negligible damage when the enemies were yet to be broken. Although they did compensate it by making her much faster by default, allowing her to deal more toughness damage: Outside Ult: Effectively ~190 SPD (Previously ~134 SPD) During Ult: ~210 SPD (Previously ~180 SPD)

@sandwichsultan3659

25 күн бұрын

@@AevyCh yeah, she is way faster now due to more speed and action advance on her usual skill. Her old damage multipliers were useless tho. And def ignore is now replaced with her own damage. She became way better anyways. Faster toughness break, more damage, faster ult, more ukt actions

@kimuru34

25 күн бұрын

Bro you can have 2 teams in MOC it won't be a problem You can just slap Archeron and FF in each team and switch then depending on enemies

@The_CodFish69

24 күн бұрын

Also some of These opponents can be WB b4 they can even get a turn so it’s not that big of a issue and for Sam you’ll waste maybe 1 attack on him so unless your a 0 cycle simp this is a non issue. Or like that other commentators said just run another team so I don’t see this being an issue at all.

Wouldn't stacking attack be the way to go because of her A6? She can stack attack while still getting break effect. Say for example, getting 3k attack would mean 140% break effect which would prevent her from completely relying on Super Break for damage. Also, if she stacks attack, it can be further buffed from some Harmony characters (like Hanya's ult for example).

@B_Kaizo

24 күн бұрын

Exactly, that's why Herta's LC is so good

@Jaywalker-cy8xz

24 күн бұрын

That works up to 60% BE, after that it doesn't count

@SlayfulBestie

23 күн бұрын

It has no limit ​@@Jaywalker-cy8xz

@baeleth6469

22 күн бұрын

​@@Jaywalker-cy8xzWrong

We going for E2 firefly

Since her kit is focusing on break effect, does that only applies to fire weakness enemies?

@shimeji_e

17 күн бұрын

she implants fire weakness so it doesn't matter

does anybody know if the Res pen 25% from Ruan Mei is calculated for the Superbreak formula? and what about ruan mei's E1 does that also boosts the Superbreak damage?

@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou

26 күн бұрын

Res pen, def shred and vulnerability all effect superbreak.

@The_CodFish69

25 күн бұрын

Ya that’s what makes RM so good with FF because she easily Implants Weakness to everything so you can use in her in literally every situation and the 25% Res Pen allows her to work at 100% no matter what your fighting.

@shrooms511

20 күн бұрын

No it doesn’t apply to superbreak only normal break dmg

@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou

20 күн бұрын

@@shrooms511 why wouldn't it? It's a defense ignore effect

@shrooms511

20 күн бұрын

@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou only effects normal break

I have robin and e1 s2 f2p bronia but no Ruan may and iv been saving up for both her and firefly but some people have been saying that at e1 when she no longer need sp bronia is better than Ruan Mei so should I go for her e1 instead?

@pomi2031

24 күн бұрын

Brother bronya is not better than ruan mei when it comes to firefly lol Firefly doesnt need crit or an action forward Since she already gets that just by using her skill on her normal state I think tingyun might be better for her since she scales off ATK And id suggest you just go for ruan mei and not for her E1 if you can, The DMG and versatility difference is a big difference Not to mention ruan mei is universally a good character as well, Increasing your break effiency meaning faster breaks And not to mention broken enemies get theyre action delayed for 1 turn as well if you have ruan mei

@someoneidkwho860

24 күн бұрын

@@pomi2031 yah i’ll probability go for ruan mai but at e1 firfly + brinia is grate cos most of bronias buffs are dmg bonus and as firefly already goes3 times -1speed boronia can make her go 6 times and at e1 firefly dosnt need sp so you can have your bronia skill every time

Aw man... I was saving for e2s0 with misha's lightcone... Ig I'll stick with e1s1 then

@B_Kaizo

24 күн бұрын

You can also go e2 with the simulated universe LC since the difference is not that high (plus since the LC gives her a lot of atk and base stats it might be better than Misha's LC)

@jpanboi_

24 күн бұрын

@@B_Kaizo seems like a fine replacement, but does super break scale off of atk?

@saltygabe5016

17 күн бұрын

​@@jpanboi_ No it doesn't but ff converts her attack into break effect which is why aeon is actually a really solid choice

is firefly, robin, lynx and harmony mc viable??(its all i have)

Putting aside her kit , it's a but funny to me that Hoyoverse seems to have went so out of thier way to cater to her that it kind of doesn't make sense? Like don't get me wrong, Hoyoverse definitely releases a character and thier artifacts/relics/planar sets at the same time, it's part of marketing for a character, but usually more characters in the future can use those same artifacts/relics/planar sets, it's the same here ,will probably be the same in the future as well. But what makes me laugh is that not only did they make a planar set that works specifically with Firefly(why specify fire weak enemies in a set that has to do with break effect and not fire elemental dmg?other characters can use it but still, why not make it the element of the character rather than one specific element?),they also changed her kit to include Superbreaks AND changed an artifact set to specifically also include superbreaks at the same time, its like they panicked big time lmao. I suppose future break dpses will just have superbreaks built into thier kits? Which is a bit disappointing because I thought it'd be HMC's special thing, but alas, it's not a big deal ultimately.

@KirigayaHayato

26 күн бұрын

no way you thought hmc will be the main guy with superbreak? hmc is a free character. there is no way hoyo won't make a stronger "hmc". About the relics thing well the other chars have already good alternatives. She being such a hyped char it is normal for hoyo to give more attention to her, also , pro bably future chars will use this set too.

@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou

26 күн бұрын

​​@@KirigayaHayato the relic set maybe, if every break dps is gonna have superbreaks from now on, but the planar set? Still specific to her because she has fire implant, and if the enemy is not fire weak , other characters don't have that option. If the enemy isn't fire weak you'd need to somehow implant them with fire weakness, you'd need Silverwolf and a fire character, and then you'd need to be lucky. Is every break character from now on going to have a fire implant? That's my problem, I don't like how specific that is. As for the HMC thing, it was less of I thought and more of I hoped.

@The_CodFish69

26 күн бұрын

I mean the set works with Gal,Guin,Asta and Himeko if you run them as Break units (and they work well with it) so your point?

@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou

26 күн бұрын

@@The_CodFish69 again, my problem is that it's tied to fire weakness

@The_CodFish69

26 күн бұрын

@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou and and a few sets have restrictions aswell so? Ya it's lame but if it works for everyone 0 conditions it'd be too good.

I have no idea who to pull for, I love both Boothill and Firefly but my jades cant handle it 😭

@deadsdeep4657

25 күн бұрын

😭for people who pull for characters they like the pain is real.

@Carlisho

25 күн бұрын

@@deadsdeep4657 Hoyo cooked to hard for Penacony they got me broke 😭

I don't even know anymore I might just pull boothill

@trisfaleel

25 күн бұрын

Dw they’re both really good so u can’t go wrong tbh

@spacenai4461

25 күн бұрын

I mean boot still do more damage on single target (He's a hunt character afterall.) Just pull who you like more between the two. They are great in their own ways.

@jasontodd7535

25 күн бұрын

@spacenai4461 that's the thing I don't know who to pick I love them both but can't afford both I still got think it over plus I still need to get ruan mei in 2.3 rerun so I have to pick ever boothill or firefly get there light cone and hope to god I can pull ruan mei

@bennogb5069

25 күн бұрын

​@@jasontodd7535you dont need their LC. Just get Ruan Mei

So does she deal 2 super break damage when paired with HMC?

@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou

26 күн бұрын

Yeah, HMC's superbreak and hers are 2 different effects

@Catboloni

25 күн бұрын

Stackable with Hmc's

can someone explain to me how you can increase Break damage? what i know is - RES PEN - DEF Reduce - DMG Increase - Break Effect - RES Type Reduce is this correct? is atk also increase break damage?

@tommyhickin4669

18 күн бұрын

Dmg increase and atk don’t affect break damage. But element type of the break does (fire and physical being the strongest), as well as character level and enemy max toughness (bosses take more break damage proportional to having bigger toughness bars). Super break is slightly different in that the enemy max toughness and element type don’t affect the damage, but instead scales with the amount of toughness reduction the attack deals so weakness break efficiency also affects super break damage. The other stats you mentioned also affect both break types.

@nannda5854

18 күн бұрын

@@tommyhickin4669 so other than DMG increase everything i said above is true can increase break damage?

@tommyhickin4669

18 күн бұрын

@@nannda5854 yep, everything else listed.

I can already see the videos "Firefly the worst Five star in the game" I'm calling it right now people are not going to go easy on her when she releases :/

Buff fly when

You know what, I'm still going for boots. If i lose 50/50 then sure firefly But I'm pretty sick of the husband's getting treated like garbage and finally boothill is a good one

they just gave her a new nurf

Tbh you yse galander and rm so sp are kinda easy to get 😂

can someone tell me, who got lot of kit changes besides this kamen rider??? i guess hoyo really cooking with her because of her fans 😅😆

@thecrazyremy

25 күн бұрын

I think jingliu did?

@B_Kaizo

24 күн бұрын

​@@thecrazyremyShe got a hugr buff yes but didn't change as much as FF, she went from a hp dps to a hybrid dps and finally full break

i already preframed for crit firefly

@koko-hh2bq

25 күн бұрын

This is why I don't prefarm relics until the kit is more or less finalised, especially with a unit like Firefly

@The_CodFish69

24 күн бұрын

And it doesn’t matter anyway because her BIS set is new and it’s a massive upgrade over everything currently in game so even if ya had god rolls a average roll on the new set would still be a lot better.

@MythoricGaming

24 күн бұрын

@@The_CodFish69 however, the current BIS (4pc firesmith) is fantastic for her kit. Increased skill damage and damage after ult, and the extra fire damage, is crazy

How about Clara lc, it is good?

@B_Kaizo

24 күн бұрын

nah

Her boothill or wait until final beta version?

@trisfaleel

25 күн бұрын

Wait till final beta idk where hoyo is going with the changes since they made quite a big change

Can someone give context on why everybody thinks Firefly is weak?

@izumolee6714

25 күн бұрын

She relies on the enemy being weakness broken to do her main source of damage. Until the enemy is broken her damage is 'mid'. That's the main complaint most detractors spew out & that she's very reliant on HMC & Ruan Mei making team building with her limited. Though that can be alleviated when more break characters are released in the future.

@Thedoorway123

25 күн бұрын

Because they learned nothing from acheron

@Eclin

25 күн бұрын

Because people are hungry for drama lol. She was nowhere near bad even before, just incomplete because the beta still not over.

@The_CodFish69

24 күн бұрын

Because a lot of these people have sub brick IQ and cannot understand big numbers means nothing. I mean look at the Acheron Simps RN they see Acheron hitting 500K+ damage per Ult and then shit on FF because she’s only hitting Around 300K… But they also ignore the Fact that FF will hit that 300K 2/3 times per Acheron Ult so ya…

Guess there's no point in running Broken Keel for FF supports.

@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou

26 күн бұрын

Probably best to run the set that gives full team atk, cuz of that trace she has.

@trisfaleel

25 күн бұрын

@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYoufleet?

@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou

25 күн бұрын

@@trisfaleel ye

wdyt of FF and boothill together in one team (w/ RM & Glg)?

@user-cf6jq1qj5i

15 күн бұрын

skill points will be completely gone

i dont get it the hate towards FF because she's break dmg character. i bet those people only know crit damage mechanic lmao. i love having a lot of damage mechanic in this game (crit, break dmg, DoT, FUA)

@user-cf6jq1qj5i

15 күн бұрын

issue with break is that the devs could easily add enemies that can protect weakness bar. other dmg mechanics dont have this type of thing

0:39 Pitch-Dark Hook the Great crying noises *** 💀

@B_Kaizo

24 күн бұрын

Limited**

even after v3 nerf people are now worried she might powercreep Acheron lmaoooo keep doomposting, let hoyo know how "weak" she is so they can buff her even more

Firefly was *never* weak, her comp was just restrictive and in exchange for more damage this only got worse. She now needs Hatblazer more than ever 🤣

@sandwichsultan3659

25 күн бұрын

Her damage literally increased by 30% and she can work without HMC now

@arcadius3257

25 күн бұрын

@@sandwichsultan3659 Sure if you want to do trash damage that makes her worse than Jing Yuan 🤣

@sandwichsultan3659

25 күн бұрын

@@arcadius3257 she 2 cycles MoC with Ruan Mei and Bronya. Btw, she is the only character that needs HMC, so i genuinely don't know why are you complaining, when she outdamages Acheron. She got a huge buff that made her best dps in the game and all you need is free character that game gives you for plot

@kimuru34

25 күн бұрын

​​@@arcadius3257doing 100k in all 4 turns without HMC is not trash but is usable but yeah with HMC she outdamages Archeron by a bit

@arcadius3257

25 күн бұрын

@@sandwichsultan3659 Erm...buddy, shes not better than Acheron even in her best case scenario so lets get that straight right off the bat. And without Hatblazer she's probably not even a top 5 dps which is abysmal for an *upcoming* dps. If you like the character thats great but stop coping just because she isn't as good as you wished she was 🤣

Glued to a specific team, not great on her own but she'll do the job with the team against whatever the generic chinese P2W product throw at you.

so i guess I should pass on Boothill?

@mah8012

25 күн бұрын

Why ? They are pretty equal in strength

@kazeke754

25 күн бұрын

@@mah8012 aoe vs single target I guess?

@The_CodFish69

25 күн бұрын

Well it depends I.E In PF FireFly wins easily In MoC it depends on what your fighting *However* if none of the Opponents have PHY weaknesses BH has problems meanwhile FF doesn’t care at All because of the 2 turn AoE Implants that work every wave. And lastly in AS welp it seems you need to Attack the Adds/summons to breaks the boss so it’s not just a ST fight like people thought so BH and FF are = here. So in the end it’s up the Player however unless V4 of FF gets a Nerf she is more Flexible and if she gets any more buffs probably just better in most situations. No hate to BH he’s still around Acheron Tier so if you really like him go for it.

@kazeke754

25 күн бұрын

@@The_CodFish69 thanks for this. I don't see too many talking about the differences between the two. And I suspect their banners won't be too far apart. But this was quite informative in my decision making. I think maybe I'll wait until near the end of BH's banner to make a decision.

@The_CodFish69

25 күн бұрын

@@kazeke754 ya her banner is literally next after BH lol so you have like 3 ish weeks to decide so I’ll hold off summoning Boothill till the Livestream to see her final version. But that being said V4 of FF will probably be her last major change if anything and that’s about a week away from now.

Yooo

I cant wait for her to release so I can stop seeing people spam “saving for firefly” on literally every HSR post I see

Good, but its not enough.. reduce her dmg even more so all players that only look at numbers skip her. Spend everything on boothill guys hes OP even stronger than acheron and FUA team frfr. Spend all them jades the moment he gets his banner :) Dont listen to the people that are saying theres going to be changes in her kit . I swear she wont. Shes going to be weaker than jingyuan , TRUST

@B_Kaizo

24 күн бұрын

She's currently outdamaging jingliu and IL with a 4 star LC 🤦, she MIGHT be on Acheron level

@firstname9274

6 күн бұрын

this aged extremely poorly

Literally so mid that shes the next candidate to dethrone midyuan

@EwOL-hx3ye

26 күн бұрын

Chill2. Better wait the full release before decides on

@heilamwether8911

26 күн бұрын

@@EwOL-hx3yewe’re hoping, but rn it’s kinda cope man… I also want to cope, but tbh, I’m getting tired of firefly fans, and how volatile they have been .-. Hopefully v4 gives us hope, but rn, I’m losing faith. (Not b/c the kits bad, I’m just getting tired.)

@rinoakirova1548

26 күн бұрын

How is she mid? She's posed to be the absolute best Break / Super Break DPS in the game. Sure, she cannot go CRIT and is reliant on breaking weakness, but her damage is just ridiculous when fulfilling her conditions. She is a niche, but extremely powerful in her niche. (also, since she can implant Fire Weakness anyway, she can brute force content as much as Acheron/Jingliu)

@Hajime625

26 күн бұрын

She's one of the best dps in game what are you talking about she need a nerf even

@The_CodFish69

26 күн бұрын

So you're Calling Acheron Mid and every one weaker then her Trash then??? Because FF V3 is 100% 0 question oh her lvl so who are you calling Mid?