Hey guys! Seeing how well this video is performing got me motivated to make MUCH more Fire Emblem content than I already do, is there a particular thing you would like to see in the future? It can be another tier-list, a game I haven't reviewed yet, character analysis, I'm open to hear what you guys would be interested in and from that make another video you can greatly enjoy

@pokendo49

2 жыл бұрын

hagalo papu lesssgooooooo!!

@athenabaer3185

2 жыл бұрын

I have an idea: Why not a character analysis of Hector and what makes him your favorite Fire Emblem protagonist? Or perhaps you could do a couple tier lists on your favorite archetypes? The sky’s the limit in terms of Fire Emblem, but I feel like these two could be good. But you can do whatever you’d like and I won’t be mad 😊

@JEANS__

2 жыл бұрын

fe4 review

@spidermelon

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly unit tier lists for each individual game would be 🔥🔥🔥

@8bitLink1H8C0NS131

2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see a FE main villian tier list

You actually need 5 words to describe Kris : Marth, Training, Granpa and Silly Hats Do not forget about the silly hats !

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT THE SILLY HATS The Wrys hairstyle will forever remain the best

@kunnykuni

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf When I played New Mystery, silly hats cutscenes where my favorite moments ! So fun !

Hector: "He's actually one of my favorite video game characters of all time!" The first time I heard that line, I thought he said "he's sexually one of my favorite video game characters of all time!"

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Given how I talked about him, that quote wouldn't be too far off from reality lmao

@CenturyBlade

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's not the only time "He sexually" comes up in this video either 🤣

Pretty good list overall IMO. One thing I'd like to mention is that even though I like Corrin, I agree with everything you said about them. I'm also glad you brought up the fact people love giving female Corrin a pass just for being female because that was something that always bothered me.

@kinokomonkey

2 жыл бұрын

I think the same. I like fates and corrin but the part of f corrin is better Is a little bit... Stupid

@Lechgang

2 жыл бұрын

To be completely fair, Female Corrin has Warriors to fall back on, and most of the people I talk to agree that Warriors Corrin is better than Fates Corrin in nearly every way. IIRC Male Corrin is also in Warriors but he's unlockable afterwards, and you'll be spending the main story with F!Corrin. Aside from that, the best I can say is that a lot of Corrin's lines and supports read differently between the male and female variants. They carry the same story in the games, but I'd argue that F!Corrin is meant to be more cute and cheery, while M!Corrin is meant to be cooler and braver. Obviously they fill the same role narratively, but these are the traits I'd argue are more expanded upon between genders. F!Corrin can pull off being cute, if not in her personality at least in her design. M!Corrin cannot pull off being cool.

@everettwatsonrazorearcwolf6553

2 жыл бұрын

To explain my shift, I won’t count Warriors (Though I am one of those people who believe Corrin was MUCH better there than her home game): I associate Female Corrin to Conquest Route while Male Corrin to Birthright. Even the cover art and Feh to a degree supports this notion. And it’s my preference in their executions in game, supports, etc. But they’re equally bad overall 😂

@dashthehedgehog2612

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, it always irritated me Male Corrin gets pushed behind Female Corrin just for being a guy. I feel like that alone is what pushed me towards liking Male more over the years and even now, actually.

@cc2255tt

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I only like female Corrin over male is the voice direction. Both versions have the personality of wet paper in the original Fates. Yet female’s appearances in other games, the voice sounds like she is willing to fight and kick your ass to save her friends. Male is just like “um I’ll fight, I don’t wanna but I will, probably just to save my friends.”

The strategy is temporal, the waifus are eternal. -The Game Shelf, probably

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

-At some point while I was drunk, perhaps

@orangeslash1667

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf the Reason for Fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligent Systems had an idea for Fates to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Intelligent Systems knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.

Bro. Ike is easily SSS. Imagine being so anti racist that you convert racists into anti racists by simply being built different 😎

@ZX-Gear

6 ай бұрын

Funny enough the whole racism started cause in Tellius,Replacement Theory is not a theory.

The only fact I do remember about Rowan and Leanne is that in Japanese are voiced by actual brother and sister voice actors Yuuma Uchida and Maaya Uchida.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wait really? That's pretty cute actually

@Talessaga2

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf Yeah kinda sad yet not surprised that the english dub didnt tried to replicate it.

@ayanamiayachanJ

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf I named my betta fish after Marth

One more cool thing about Ike, he doesn't even have an epithet in the ending of radiant dawn. It just reads "ike". That's all he wanted to be known as, just Ike. (Also his ending with Soren is so wholesome)

Big disagree on Dimitri's redemption arc. You can clearly see Dimitri starting to come around before his redemption, and you can see snippets of his hateful side afterward. Before Rodrigue dies there's a monk in the monastery saying Dimitri was patting the head of an orphan; how he tells Dedue to never throw his life away; how he hesitates when Byleth asks him if he regrets killing the soldiers. And you can see his hateful demeanor come back when facing Cornelia. People who say Dimitri turned around too fast just didn't pick up on the cues imo, which admittedly are tough to spot on the first playthrough but are fairly obvious in hindsight.

@ZX-Gear

6 ай бұрын

Ah yes. The anathema of most media consumers. Lack of Media Literacy added with short attention span.

Glad to see Big Dick Alfonse getting the appreciation he deserves. If only he was the lord in an actual FE game with a good story…

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is, Heroes' stories always have the potential to be good, but since they have to wrap them up in 13 chapters they always just end or lose steam very fast

@lemonhead19

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf agreed. I think Books 3 or 5 especially had the potential to be spectacular. Kinda makes me wish that they would extend Books for longer than 13 chapters

I feel like Celica and Roy deserved better than D tier. At least C. Sure they have their flaws, but they're way less offensive than the trash avatars and insufferable warriors OCs. Celica has a lot of charming dialogue and *really* good stuff despite some flaws in her route and had a great explored background than the whole lot of nothing Rowan, Lianna, and Kris have. She made a believable mistake from the environment she was raised in, she's a strong unit, and she's cute with Alm. Roy also has pretty good supports and characterization.

@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Fermin-hw5pd

2 жыл бұрын

Strong unit? Not from my experience, so far xd And yeah, Alm and Celica make a cute couple, until you find the ntrs

@swen1208

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fermin-hw5pd the only FE character that gets ntr'd is Sigurd.

@Fermin-hw5pd

2 жыл бұрын

@@swen1208 Canonically, of course

Aside from what you said, another reason Chrom is my favorite fire emblem character is how willing he is to follow his instinct no matter what everyone says. We see this many times including the very beginning when Chrom first finds Robin, and when Chrom marries Olivia if you go that route (their flashback scene calls it out directly). No other FE character is as confident in their instincts and willingness to trust not only their friends, but themselves at the same time. He’s literally a chosen champion of a goddess and the Awakener but when she tells him what to do he says “I make my own fate” and does whatever he wants.

I agree with a lot of things in this list, and I’m glad Ike, Edelgard, and Hector are all high up. I do have to disagree about the Claude part because while he is almost perfect, he does have a flaw, and that’s his trust issues. Even though he has great genuine good ideals, he starts off trying to learn everyone, and kind of using people to his own benefit, or interest, and thinks for the longest time that Byleth is lying to him about they’re power. I like how as the game progresses, he just about everything he says and does starts becoming genuine, and he starts believing in his friends and that he can accomplish things with them, and even shares his dream with Byleth. Also, I used to dislike his S support with Byleth because I used to think the just kind of ditched her, but then I realized he actually did come back to Byleth, and I like how him telling Byleth to wait for him and basically trust that he will be back because all of the timeskip, Claude genuinely put all his trust in Byleth, so he wants Byleth to trust him that he’ll settle things in Almyra so they can be together. Great list though, and I’m still glad you put Claude high up. I do agree though that Claude should’ve been just as tactical as Yuri since Claude is called the schemer

I thought I was just going to skip to the end but your energy was SO infectious and it was really entertaining listening to what you had to say even for characters I couldn't care less about, subbed!!

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Aw, thanks a bunch friend fr it means a lot, there's more content on the way, including Fire Emblem so I hope you look forward to that

Damn, all your Fire Emblem content is seriously making me consider getting back into the series!

Made me realize I actually do like Edelgard, good tier list friend.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Edelgard simply.... simply the best

My top 3 lords are Eliwood, Seliph, and Dimitri, so I think our taste in characters overlap a bit. Rowan and Lianna are more believable as siblings than Eirika and Ephraim; you can give them that at least.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

That... much is true honestly, yeah nothing about them really made me feel uncomfortable

Ephraim is up there with Hector for me. But for the fact that he's actually the reason a demon lord possessed his friend. Being too perfect was actually his character flaw 😅

Tierlist is great, imo and I mostly agree, tho I would've Sigurd on the S list since his story was so good. Edelgard, Hector, Ike, and Sigurd are my top 4 fav FE protags.

Always a great thing to see, Hector getting the praise he deserves

Thank you for appreciating Leif 😭

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame a lot of people can't appreciate him because he's super difficult to train in Genealogy and Thracia is a nightmare to complete But playing that game last year was a great experience that made me appreciate him a whole ton more

@breamorrill

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf I completely get what you mean. Thracia was one of the last games I beat in the series, and it was indeed a nightmare to even play certain chapters. I thought it was amazing how this character actually had to deal with mistakes that he made, while seeing him grow into a great leader toward the end.

@ashiharasaiyou2898

2 жыл бұрын

bruh, thracia is the 2nd fire emblem i played

LOL your nickname for Duessel killed me. Buen video!

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

That's just how me and my friend refer to him all the time lmao

Someone who actually understand Micaiah character!? Frickin finally Solid tier list overall

Virgin Edelgard stan vs virgin Dimitri stan vs chad both enjoyer

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

I pick both sides so I never lose

@Evan_S_601

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf you never pick fights you don’t win lol

Eliwood and Hector in S tier? Love to see it! ❤️ Also, really love the way you explained your reasons for your placements 💯

Finally someone who likes Micaiah Also Sigurd and Leif praise is always good Have a sub :)

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated! Thank you very much

@Fermin-hw5pd

2 жыл бұрын

She has a pretty design, I have to say that (Not much else because I have tried to watch RD like 2 times, dropped it twice)

All your videos are excellent! ✨I can see all your effort! Keep shining boy

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Ay muchas gracias amiga Mayte, eres la mejor!

I absolutely love robin, i came to this video to see where you ranked them and i definitely agree. If it wasn’t for them i would’ve never gotten into the franchise, now i have a Grima’s Truth tattoo and have played well over 6 fire emblem games in their entirety. Awesome tier list!

I never thought Celica as dumb for trusting Jedah. She thought Mila was dead and without Duma, the rest of Valentia would become barren. She was willing to sacrifice her own soul to save Duma, something Mila did by sealing Falchion away. There was no way for her to know that Jedah, as untrustworthy as he is, to not unseal Mila. It was a dead end for her. She even told Halcyon that she was so lost, she didn't know what to do. She was certain her fate was die calming Duma's madness.

This is a good video. Alone because you cherish Edelgard. She is just an amazing character.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Great minds think alike friend

@foulmouthwoman

2 жыл бұрын

Edelgard is my personal favorite FE character

@Ninjaananas

10 ай бұрын

​@@foulmouthwoman Same.

I like this list. Alm, Robin, Hector, Edelgard, and Ike are my favorite mains too.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Great minds think alike bro

@mihaimercenarul7467

2 жыл бұрын

edelgard is trash tho

@NovaBlazerZX

2 жыл бұрын

@@mihaimercenarul7467 she isnt tho

@mihaimercenarul7467

2 жыл бұрын

@@NovaBlazerZX oh but she is, simp. The writing for her is horrible and only simps would feel bad for her actions cuz she is a female that felt sad murdering people.

I think you should have placed Yuri somewhere on the list. I know he isn't technically a lord, but he's more of a main character imo than Rowan and Liane were.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Since I was unsure about Yuri at the very least I wanted to give him an honorable mention, even telling the viewers where I'll put him It's hard to say if he's THE mc of Cindered Shadows, but at least I can say he's easily one of the best characters 3H has to offer

I just found your channel, and it's amazing! Glad to see other latin American content creators. Saludos de Chile!

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Ayeee man thank you so much fr! I appreciate it, you'll see there's more content on the way and you wont be disappointed

Immediately passed the vibe check with the Edelgard opinion

@TheGameShelf

Жыл бұрын

Great minds think alike friend

I would put Dimitri on S-Tier, to be honest. If you look at the timeskip versions of Edlegard and Claude, they both are more than capable of leading their respective sovereigns. What does Dimitri have when you as Byleth are not playing the Azure Moon? Nothing but voices in his head and murder in his eyes. And let's not forget that Dimitri actually comforted Byleth and helped him deal with the loss of Jeralt. Edlegard seemed dismissive and rude, and Claude was noisy about Jeralt's journal. For me, Dimitri's development made Byleth's tutelage a much more significant investment

@tomasgarcia7499

2 жыл бұрын

True

@Ninjaananas

2 жыл бұрын

Edelgard was not dismissive. She just wanted Byleth to move on.

@manuelfinale9231

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ninjaananas Still, her approach just rubbed me the wrong way

@Ninjaananas

2 жыл бұрын

@@manuelfinale9231 It is the way she had to cope with her trauma and she has a will of iron. So she probably has trouble understanding when other people need to grieve for some time. She always had to move on and repress her emotions.

@ray0064

2 жыл бұрын

@@manuelfinale9231 it was more of a tough love approach that I was fine with but yeah Claude’s sucked

This is such an awesome Fire Emblem video! I really love the passion you express while explaining how much you like or not care for certain characters. Lyn’s my favorite female Lord but I won’t lie, her role have slowly diminished as the story progresses. But thank for for still giving her a decent rank. I also love how you detailed Marth. There’s always something charismatic about him and you just simply put it into words I couldn’t. Mad props for Ike and Hector in the high ranks! (And Corrin being just a terrible Lord in general.) Thanks, The Game Shelf. :)

Came to see where you placed Ike. Didn't disappoint. Liked and subscribed. Telliusbros are family.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Telliusbros always stick together! Thank you so much for the sub, there will be more FE content on the way

I loved this video so much. I would love to see a Fire Emblem antagonist tier list too.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to come up with more ideas for FE videos, so antagonists might be interesting too Not too sure if lots of people would love that but we gotta see

@DarthSigma86

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf I'm sure they will. Everyone loooves learning about the bad guys....Unless it's Garon. (Ese viejo se puede pudrir con la mayoria del cast de Fates.)

42:40 Me, who likes the female Corrin and her feet: "You made a powerless enemy"

@toureyounouss7897

4 ай бұрын

I'm not scared, bring it on

There was a point in my life where I really, really adored Corrin. To this day I still like them, and I even still go out of my way to summon their latest alt in FEH... but yeah there's no denying that they ain't the best protag in the series. I think I have developed my own take on the character and that's likely what's preventing me from dismissing them entirely. Even then, they're no longer my all time favorite character from Fire Emblem. That title belongs to Mae now.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

I can't blame you if you still have certain attachment to the character, it tends to happen

@giveroflemons537

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf Of course. Fates was one game I sunk countless hours into and done many replays of. So of course, I grew to like "paper cup: the character".

@pokefan7446

Жыл бұрын

I’m in a similar boat. When FEH started, and New Years Corrin was released, for whatever reason, a part of me just went "…I’ll invest in him. Why not?" And, ever since, I’ve just had this peculiar enjoyment of the Corrins. They’re poorly-written dorks, but they’re my poorly-written dorks.

@robineis9460

7 ай бұрын

I believe fates is a game where the first time you play it (specially if you did around when it came out) you will love it, and overtime honeymoon ended and people began to, honestly deserved it, hate on it. I adored Conquest and even thought for a second that it was better than Awakening (which was my favorite game and still is). But when the hype of playing for the first time died, I started to see its flaws, lots of them, and came to not like it as much as I did at first.

I feel like you missed the point of Roy (No I'm not talking about smash Roy.) The main point of fe6 is to accept change and grow with it. I felt like Roy encapsulates this perfectly in the new much better project naga translation patch. He starts off as a 15 year old teenager thrusted into a position he wasn't ready for. Which explains why he's underpowered unit in the start. And in his supports shows a stressed out person who feels like he doesn't deserve the high position he has and often gets depressed. Which to be honest almost any 15 year old who has to lead mens lives into combat and watch them die because of their mistakes is very likely to cause depression. Near mid game he has accepted the position he's in and grows from them having friends to confide in such as Marcus, Lillina , Sue, Alan, and Lance. He becomes a better strategist like the player and doesn't make as many mistakes. And in the nearing end of fully develops into a confident, strong man who has fully embraced his role and determined to end the suffering of the war. This is also represented in gameplay where he becomes a beast with the binding blade able to 1 round most enemies with it. As to paraphrase his battle with Zephiel "This war forced me to grow up and become strong enough to defeat you." He develops with the player and is only screwed over by the long time supports takes to build as well as the first translation patch many people used simplified alot of the finer details that the original had.

I am HERE for the Alfonse love, the benchlord deserves it all (still not gonna use him but)

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

You can change that if you use his New Year or Valentine's alts, way more usable than base Alfonse

Good like always bro, continue making this kind of videos 😎

Ok now we need a power level tier list with all the protagonists!

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Ike is objectively SSS-tier, easiest pick

@acendantoverlord5737

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf True IKE is a physical power house, but other protagonists are broken in their own way. For instance Byleth who can based on several factors (Crest and items) have regeneration aswell as rolling back time as it is a narrative ability Byleth has and not just a gameplay mechanic. Also ranged attacks.

So happy Alm was high up on the list. I love the funny little humor man.

This tier list is GOD! great work!

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the support I appreciate it, I'll keep delivering more FE content in the future

Great vid!!

I'd put alm s tier now it may be biased because it's my favorite game in the series and my favorite cahrcater to but when you see all the pain and suffering he goes through everything he has to overcome and he still keeps that kindhearted joking personality it shows a lot of strength to his character he went from only having his grandpa as family to questioning his relation to his grandpa to meeting his father right after he just killed him to having to kill his cousin even though all he desires if family and to not be alone then he even has to fight celica who has been turned into a witch and kill he rto and even after all that he still respects his father's wishes and kills Duma thats why to me alm is the best cahrcayer in the series and he will always have a special place I feel I can relate to him a lot.

@jakebaney46

2 жыл бұрын

Should have been mire specific I can relate to the way he acts the caring joking will do anything for those he loves stuff

I disagree with almost all of your placements, yet somehow you managed to explain your position well enough to where I can fully respect your decisions. Very nice work.

I like how Roy and Eliwood aren't even on the thumbnail.

As a Sacred Stoned lover, being my first game I can say Valid honestly, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like them as much if it wasen't my first game or their relationship with Lyon Their relationship with each other kinda does suck, but I still adore Eirika by just how lovable she is and how her route shows us more about Joshua, and Ephraim for being a Himbo tm and having the best route for Lyon as a character. Still replay Sacred Stones for Cormag, Artur, Lyon, El sabroso para las con Daddy Issues, and many more, but they are still fine even if the less interesting part of their game.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have nothing against them, if I have to chose between love or hate, I'd say I love them. But unfortunately, as I said, every other character shines more for me

@shinyblue4774

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf True Wish they where less bland, but we have SOME stuff for them if Feh so ill take it

no joke, as a fellow lefty i would be so down for a 'top left handed characters' tier list. just don't forget about my boy crono from chrono trigger.

@themanwithaplan5425

2 жыл бұрын

Or Link!

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

If more people come with left-handed characters I can definitely consider doing that, Alm and Link are the first to come to mind but I'm sure there's more out there

@pithes123

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf according to my memory (and a quick google search) some more leftys are artorius of the abyss from the 1st dark souls dlc. dude's left arm is broken and he fights you with his right,but lore conferms he's left handed my boy raphael and his adopted daughter amy from soul caliber. along with nightmare sepheroth from final fantasy 7 and if anime characters count uryu from bleach (leftys hold their bow in their right hand and the arrow in the left) and dabi from my hero academia

@valarmis

2 жыл бұрын

@@pithes123 and also Toby Determined from Gravity Falls

I actually really agree with all the placements on this list. You summarized my thoughts on all the characters pretty much perfectly and I'm glad to see someone who doesn't just immediately say "Edelgard bad" but also doesn't try to gloss over her actions. I also get annoyed by Celica's reunion with Alm at the end of act 2 because I find her argument to be not only hypocritical but also ridiculously naive. It annoys me how she blows up on Alm for trying to protect his country.

Keep the good work

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

If I don't then who will?

Another Banger video

This tier list of yours is pretty neat. I was a bit mad when you put Celica on D teir but i got over it pretty quick whem you said Celica's Awakening dlc art is prototype Pyra. And also, while you make some pretty good points, you may think Celica is a bad lord but i dont think so. I think Celica is a great lord and you can blame SoV's story for her making trust Jedah. What she did is for Alm and her friends' safety bc he's gonna kill them if she dont. And to be fair, Jedah's evil scheme to save Duma while killing Alm and Celica in the process is doomed to fail anyway.

Despite three hopes having a rushed story, I liked the moral ambiguity of some of Claude’s actions toward the middle of the deer campaign. It adds some nuance to his golden boy persona

@TheGameShelf

Жыл бұрын

I still don't play Claude's Route in Three Hopes but it's funny cause I've heard so many people have mixed opinions on Claude's actions. Really makes me wonder how much it'll affect my opinion on him

@Geese_boi777

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf Yeah it’s definitely not award winning story telling lol, but it at least makes you doubt the purity of his ambition a bit

Great video! Ngl, as a big shonen anime watcher, it hurt watching you not put Claude in S tier because he is “too perfect” but I can see where you’re coming from. 😂 also props for not forgetting about Rowan and Lianna. I honestly expected them to be left out.

Let's GOOO, Eliwood is in S Tier

You know its really bad when instead of an artwork you get a meme, your name is said emotionless and the music is just... putrid? Poor Corrin lol

High 5 leftie fellow, hope for that video haha (also one of my favorite characters is lefty in Gilliam but no one remembers that, not even the artist)

THANK YOU! Thank you for giving Eliwood the appreciation he deserves! Way, way too many people just say "he's Marth 2.0" or "he cries way too much." You managed to sum up what's great about Eliwood in a very succinct manner. Great video overall! There's not much I personally disagree with, and what I do disagree with, you do a good job at explaining why.

watching your videos knowing spanish sure is an experience

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Well you know me, I'm trying to reach a wider audience through language

I'd like you to know, I was taking a drink when you called Seth "Seth Thundercock" and I almost died from it. Glorious joke tho! Plus, I agree with you about Corrin. I think narratively and character wise Fates is the shallowest but mechanically one of the better ones, unfortunately.

There's a lot of subtext to Roy's character that's easy to miss but it makes me really like him as a character. Roy is just a teenager, and the game portrays him that way. He's not a very competent commander or unit on the battlefield by design.

@swen1208

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is that story in binding blade is basic compared to the other series. Basic story means you get a basic protagonist. I hope a remake would do justice to Roy and add more to the story.

This is the best fucking commentary on one of my fav game series

I love the fact that the subtitles write corrin as "cory". Cory in da house

Nice vid

I... Kinda agree about Corrin (even as someone who actually loves Fates and prefers it to for example Awakening), except for design (mostly female), but Corrin in spin-offs? I adore them, suddenly less focus on Corrin gives them a lot of chances to look positively.

Xd "Elviejosabroso" best part

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Desde que lo metieron al Heroes ya no le digo por su verdadero nombre jajaja

I wanted to make a joke and say 'Where's Mark?' but uhh Kiran is on the list. Literally the same.

Great video Agree with most placements but disagree with a few Do you have a link to this list btw

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Oh sure thing, I just updated the video's description with the link to the tier list, check the "Social Media" section, it's at the end

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the watch btw, it means a lot

@negativesymptom1110

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf no problem, thanks a lot

Robino & Robina always in my heart ❤️

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Love my amnesiac nerds a lot

@ricardopineda402

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf hahaha I couldn't have said it better XD

Have you seen Marth growth stats in strength ? Also you reminded me of another youtuber that makes fire emblem content mainly on February.

Me encantó el "CÁLLESE WEEEEEEY" en la sección de Sharena.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Le dije a mi compa "Gritame como si de verdad estuvieras encabronado"

It really caught me off guard that Lucina wasn't included here, since tbh she feels like she's the final piece of awakening's protagonist trio. She feels like she's almost as much of a protagonist for the second half of the game as Chrom is (I also really love Lucina)

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

I debated this with a few friends and even on the channel's Discord but we concluded that Lucina is more of an Azura/Elincia case where they're a deuteragonist/tritagonist, important to the plot but not exactly the main focus. I still wish to give her some spotlight in the future but if you're curious, I went from being neutral, to hating her for arbitrary reasons to warming up and eventually loving Lucina and that's something I would like to give some depth at some point. She would be somewhere between A and B tiers

@spacelizbian

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf That's fair, I think honestly what sets Lucina apart for me is just that she got into smash before i knew anything about Awakening

I really like Claude as a lord, I agree with your placement, but I’d like to bring up that he reveals in his S support that Claude may be manipulating byleth throughout the entire game, unless he falls in love with the female version. I just kind of like the idea that the player will never really know if he’s manipulating other people or not. Even when Hilda dies in his defense map, he questions why anyone would lay down their life for him, because he’d never do the same. Either way, great list, love the alfonse and alm love too, and you’ve earned yourself a subscriber today.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Very thankful for the support friend, makes me very happy to know you really enjoyed the video, I'll keep at it so you can have more content to watch

@janmarcoperezbatres2203

2 жыл бұрын

I do not think you understood that Hilda death the way most did. Claude does care about his partners. He does use them, but he does not want them to die. If you do Hilda's support with Byleth, she will tell you that she never understood why people would die for others, she thought it was dumb. When she dies protecting Claude, she is doing the exact opposite, and even Claude is shocked that she did not escape to live another day leaving him behind. He expected anyone BUT Hilda to die for him, that is what he meant.

I must be the only FE8 fan who never saw that "special" relationship between Eirika and Ephraim. I mean, Seth exists.

Byleth in B tier due his name starts with a “B” Lol, jokes aside, this is a really nice and fun analysis, the Chrom & Robin analysis makes me want to play Awakening so bad And the Spanglish jokes......”ese wey respeta viejas” “viejo sabroso” “papasote” Uffff 10/10

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe I missed such an obvious joke on the video, and yeah you should totally go for Awakening, incredible game

Love Edelgard but lowkey insulted that you would put her in a hypothetical triple S tier with Hector, that honor belongs to Ike lol. I would even move her to A tier because I think she's actually the weakest in terms of how much I like her as a character in her own route believe it or not. I like her a lot in verdant wind and silver snow, and love her in azure moon because you literally see how far she's willing to go for her ideals. My biases would put Claude in S tier lol but objectively I can acknowledge the points you made about him.

36:23 To be frank, I'm alright with the placement, but I kinda disagree with the "Byleth is just a block of wood" part. Them being the way they are due to their genetics via Jeralt and Sitri, circumstances of their birth, as well as their weird upbringing as a mercenary is something I am personally fond of. Though I am a bit conflicted on them being mostly silent. Thankful for FEH in that regard. Some of the things they say there are quite nice, especially FByleth's support with Sharena where FByleth goes on how eccentric she is and their stony face on the battlefield, their lack of social norms, and how they don't know the difference between a friend and an ally. Byleth may become a "Professor", but the students they are dealing with allow for Byleth to grow as a human as well. I also love how some of the students will take note of how odd they are, especially when Dimitri says that he initially felt uncomfortable around them, thinking they had no humanity whatsoever. I mean, they were known outside GMM as the "Ashen Demon". Like.. if the students and staff knew about that, would they even let Byleth in? Perhaps the label is best left in the past as it is dehumanizing to them and seemingly makes them uncomfortable via their Hanneman C support? Also...fishing

@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I quite like Byleth. Sure, he could've been handled better but I like what we do get. In fact he's actually one of my favorite characters in TH.

Really nice video! Nice discussion and analysis! I would like to point out one thing though: Claude is such a complex and profound character that it is really difficult to get a complete picture of him: the game cuts part of his story and provides only a few clues about his past and who he really is. I don't think Claude is perfect. Claude had a tragic past just like Edelgard and Dimitri: he grew up in an environment where every day he had to deal with racists nobles who wanted to kill him. He grew up alone. He is now unable to trust anyone around him. He is friendly, easygoing and wants YOUR trust, but HE doesn't trust you unless you develop a deep friendship over a long period of time. "Claude" isn't even his real name (it's Khalid). I see "trusting the other" as part of his development: at first you are nothing more than a pawn to his eyes, a pawn to fulfill his dream (he reveals it himself towards the end of the game if I remember correctly). Now, he wanted to use his pawns in a much more ... "peaceful" way because his goal is similar to Edelgard's but I'm sure he would have used diplomacy or something. But still, from my point of view he's an opportunist: he pretends to be friendly but he's just... "fake". Obviously this is just the negative part of his character and pretty much everything else is, as you said, the "perfect" person, but I think this flaw is big enough (and consistent with his past) to make his character more realistic.

Corrin frustrates me to my core in the same way that Conquest does because they're both so close to being perfect but they're just so let down by writing. Like Conquest, Corrin is my favourite in the franchise in terms of gameplay and presentation. She strikes this perfect balance between always feeling like an important unit while also never being a carry, and you can get so creative with how you use her throughout the game. She also has my favourite character design. Also like Conquest, she had so much potential to be a good narratively. Corrin, in concept, is my favourite character in fe. She's a pawn in this massive war who knows shes on the wrong side but choses to fight anyways because she knows it's the only path to peace. So she has to endure the guilt and shame of killing the people she loves, constantly making extremely hard and immoral decisions with her only respite being that her sacrifices now will shape a better world for both sides of the war. I think that contrast of doing evil for the sake of good is so engaging and I wish the game was actually like this. Because, like Conquest, she completely falls apart because she's written like complete dogshit.

@toureyounouss7897

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I think the problem are the versions themselves, why is there birthright and conquest ? Knowing her personality she shouldn't have to chose between the two family she loved and loved her (Revelation). Also her elder brothers couldn't sound more immature than this when corrin didn't want to join either side: "ohh! How could you attack my army, you're not my sister anymore, booooo" FRANKLY I REALLY HATED THAT PART Of Revelation However there is a character that deserve more hate than corrin (even if I like her) Do you know what character I'm talking about ?

@hyperm8

2 ай бұрын

@@toureyounouss7897Could you give some hints as to who that character is? Is she from Fates or another FE game?

@toureyounouss7897

2 ай бұрын

@@hyperm8 of course the character is from fates 😫. And the character I'm talking about is Azura

i really wish that celica and eirika were treated more like sigurd by the fandom. their naivety and over-adherence to doing things the right way is also punished within the story like sigurd but only they get called stupid :/

30:55 I'm stealing this line forever thank you

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Anytime friend

I agree with all of your placements for the games I've played so far. Edelgard especially (if the pfp didn't make that obvious). Which is why it's a dang travesty that her own route feels rushed and unfinished compared to the others 😫

I screamed when you said "oh my god they were roomates"

My list would go like this: Marth B, Caeda A, Alm B, Celica A, Clive S, Lyn A(if you count Warrior for support else just B), Eliwood B (potential for a A but lack execution skill form the writer to give him a personality give him flaw just too neutral for the A) Hector S, Eirika A- really similar to Elincia, Ephraim B got potential but kinda boring as he is need more time to show his characters flaw, Ike S, Elincia A+ (lack spotlight but could be S for sure), Micaiah S, Sothe B, Corrin... Yah just. a C for Corrin, Edelgard S+, Claude B (fairly interesting but his route lack something to show his motive and his flaw making him just kinda there not bad but similar to a Marth or Lyn.) That it for how I can rate. (Ferdiand A+ like him alot and he show character dev more than alot of protagonist no joke. + he 3D with like flaw in his character and I like that his Support are to expand others characters.) TLDR: C Annying or disturbing the plot or character around them, B Neutral character with not much interesting thing going on, A Characters that en up with character Dev or who got some weakness (exemple Eirika naivety make her do a weakness and impact the plot so her flaw actually is a real flaw and isn't just she Naive and it got no impact on the story), S A tier but better in almost every way (AKA more flaw and or more personality and character Dev. Exemple Hector got character dev form him wanting to not take the trone his brother dieing impact him more than Eliwood killing Ninian... no joke and overall his personality is interesting too) Not bad not bad Tho perso I prf my character with some flaw (that why I prf Celica over all I just think Clive is a more interesting Protagonist in Alm route ... no joke. His relationship with the villant are more interesting and he just a more deep character... I can fell for ppl who like Alm I just think he super vanilla he bassicly Marth with a bit more personality but not to the point of worthing 1 more tier for me and Overall I think Marth is a B tier character AKA fine but just kinda there without making you fell anything really. I think of Alm in a same way) I think Lyn depend alot of where we experienced her in Warrior she great (character wise more interesting than Alm or Marth) But in her Owen game I fell she pretty much like Alm and Marth aka a B tier like nothing crazy about her (female is cool I guess) Off Eliwood S interesting perso I fell the same as Lyn for Eliwood like if they give her more character may be I could give him the A tier but right now he just like bland. Ok am 100% with you for Hector (Good Character Dev goodish Unite and also a great personality that isn't just bland/vanilla 30.0 Just a good exemple of a character done right) I would give him A probably tho S need more deapth. Eirika is a good question I would have a hard time rating her because I like her personally And I just like that she make mistake along the way so I guess a B+ or a low A? Like I just pref her over Marth or Alm. Glade yo see Micaiah at A tho didn't expect it since most ppl things like you said tho to be fair ppl start warming up to her new. (she bassicly the top for me of what a protagonist should be aka show you her PoV really well and got a tone of flaw and just fell like a real humain Kof Kof might see with the general thing am looking forward in a character that Edelgard might be quite high too for the same reason as to why I like Micaiah they are flawed but that what I like they are unique you can fell good or bad about them Like me or hate me I don't care but you fell an emotion so she above B for sure. tho unite wise she really bad at the hardest difficulty tho may be she good for Normal lvl I don't know) Good list overall tho

@nuibaba280

2 жыл бұрын

Based Clive placement.

I disagree a bit with Lyn's Placement but it's OK...Everyone's has his favorites...But man... The One from Corrin... I loved How perfectly you summarized Corrin really is...I was more attached to their Sisters and Brothers than him...

never played this game but you were super interesting nd i juss subbed

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot I really mean it! I promise I'll deliver more content of this caliber, you'll see

I never played Genealogy of the Holy War before, so when you stated what had happened to Sigurd, I was legit shocked. Also, Rowan from Warriors is the worst main Fire Emblem character ever made.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Dude you should totally play the Jugdral games, they're very hard and demanding ngl, but they're experiences well worth the effort

@VorpalBender

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf That’s what I’ve heard! I’ve been holding out on a remake, but seeing Nintendo’s track record on NOT wanting my money, I think I should just give up hope at this point, haha.

this is very generous to glass cannon groomer micaiah yo

DUDEE AL FIN ALGUIEN QUE HABLA ESPAÑOL EN LA COMU DE FE OMG

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Lo cual es irónico que igual hablé en puro inglés jaja, pero siii amo FE, vienen más vídeos en camino amigo así que espero que los disfrutes cuando salgan

If your asking who is the best protagonist based on just combat alone it's Ike most op character in fire emblem period. Aether heals him his speed and defense or insane god tier he wipe an entire map alone in Path of Radiance anyway

-Comentario en español- Debiste poner a Yuri, digo, está en S tier porque no sólo es el mejor del DLC, hasta en Héroes rompió los duelos de invocadores, hizo un Sigurd en esencia a base de su engaño K grande el Claude bien hecho.

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

Como la verdad no estaba del todo seguro si Yuri contaba como prota principal ya que el protagonismo se dividia entre los 4 Ashen Wolves y en si Yuri no tiene una ruta para si solo Peeeero, por esa misma razon quise darle un poco de enfoque y decir donde lo pondria en la tier list, sin duda es uno de mis personajes favoritos de toda la franquicia

@juanesparza6158

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGameShelf Pues en si no es ruta propia, es una "mini historia" (aunque ni tan mini) pero él es protagónico de ella, un poco más que los otros 3 (aunque los 4 tienen su relevancia) pero si, Yuri se siente como lo que querían hacer con Claude originalmente, antes de bajarle un poco el tono, y es un gran personaje (puede serte serio como su support con Byleth o más divertido como su support con Constance)

As a massive Claude enjoyer... yeah that's a fair criticism I have to agree with

Huh. I've heard the Claude is similar to Yuri point before except before when I first hear it, they said that Claude was just a better Yuri.

I like the video! Only thing is I don’t think Roy is the worst lord in the series by far. I honestly think Lyn, Erika, and maybe even Micaiah(before she becomes a staff bot) might be worse. When I said Roy isn’t the worst lord I meant strictly combat wise. I still would’ve put him in C because I like the Shanna support with him were he shows his insecurities and more somber side

I must admit that I am a Corrin fan, more specifically the Female version, mainly because of her desing and the clothing, but I gotta say that her character dev and personality are pretty vague and plain. In those terms that Corrin lacks some improvement I choose Micaiah, and daaamn her Legendary Alt desing (and art fron FEH) is gorgeous. I've got a similar liking in her as Corrin in those fields. Also gotta say that FE Fates OSTs are something otherworldly, one of the best I've ever heard!

@TheGameShelf

2 жыл бұрын

We can be on the same page there, Fates may be my most hated game of all time, but that Soundtrack is simply out of this world, way too good to be true

Big Seliph fan myself.