Just bought a 44,000 mile 78 grand marquis 4 door for a whopping 5,000, and most importantly with original midnight blue paint!

@christopherkraft1327

Жыл бұрын

What a gorgeous car!! 👍👍

@Greg-ly2rz

10 ай бұрын

I had one. Same color. Wonderful car. Enjoy!

@user-jv8rl7uh3i

7 ай бұрын

Yeaaaa but that's hood. Cops will fuck with you more

I find it interesting that the vehicles that were the least expensive and most plentiful when new now bring in the highest prices as classics. Has to be nostalgia. Great video, Adam. 👍👍👍

@RareClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

It is

@RoofysGarage

Жыл бұрын

@@RareClassicCars for sure. Everyone's patents had a Caprice or knew someone who did while growing up. A Delta 88 or Fleetwood was a rare sight and doesn't provoke the nostalgic feelings in the same way

@JazzzRockFuzion

Жыл бұрын

A couple years ago, my father scored a loaded ‘78 Caprice Classic sedan with the 350 - for TWO GRAND. Seller had it (literally) buried under boxes in a garage. Zero rust, all trim is in tact, interior in beautiful shape, runs great! Apparently the car was running really roughly beforehand and the seller told my father, “If you come and get it out, it’s yours; make an offer.” My dad got it running and the rest is history! After having some work done on the carb, it runs smooth as glass. Got to take it out last October during a visit with my folks. Lovely car!

@averyparticularsetofskills

Жыл бұрын

My opinion on that is this, with the 60s\70s classic car market being as bias as it is,"muscle cars" are perceived to be the most rare and valuable of all the types of classics cars, that then makes the perception true lol, so because of that the market will and always has demanded more of future potential high dollar vehicles and typically the luxury models have not been that, its been the Plymouth and Dodge not the Chrysler or Chevys and Pontiac not the Buick its not the Mercs but has been the Fords and so on... that's been my opinion for the odd "reversal",if u will, in the value of brands now when compared to their new MSRPs. Awesome Vid as usual👌🏽✌🏽

@averyparticularsetofskills

Жыл бұрын

⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆ ✴To add to that I strongly prefer the big V8 Luxury machines over the muscle machines, best of both worlds to me.

I’m 15 and hoping to get a land yacht for my first car, preferably a LTD or a crown Victoria. The high school parking lot needs something other than mom-mobile SUV’s/crossovers and daddy’s money mustangs and comaros lol.

@crankychris2

Жыл бұрын

There's a bunch of Vics out there, the 4.6/Auto is tried and true, makes about 220-230 hp, and gets mid 20's on the hwy at 75 mph. I'd shy away from LEO Vics cuz their pretty beat, but my friend scoped an '08 Detective car, pretty sweet car, 82k miles.

A neighbor of mine used to trade Oldsmobiles every three years, until he bought a 1972 88 Royale. He kept that car for eight years and hated to see it go. It had the 455, of course. Excellent cars.

@maxrockatanskytheroadwarrior

Жыл бұрын

Im looking for a good land yacht, what are some of your recommendations? There are just so many I cant just decide which one I want to buy

@tombrown1898

Жыл бұрын

@@maxrockatanskytheroadwarrior Max, I would say any of Adam's Mercurys or big Oldsmobiles would be great choices. For eons, I traveled for a living and had company cars. But I learned the hard way always to keep a a car of my own. My favorite was a 1979 Olds Delta 88 I bought in 1994. It was a "unicorn" of sorts--a one-owner 15 yr. old, with only 55,000.miles. I paid $1,500 for it! You probably won't find one at that price, but deals are out there. Good luck!

My Grandpa was flipping old cars in the 80s so i got drive cars around the farm when i turned 14. Drove all these over a couple summers....69 Bonneville convertible 428, 77 LTD green 2 door, 55 Ford 292/ 3 on tree, 66 New Yorker 383 gold, 76 Eldorado yellow, 77 Town car green, 77 continental 2 door green, 72 Lincoln Mark 4 2 door brown, 75 VW bus orange, Farmall tractor with a PTO driven mower hanging off the back. Hand crank to start. He had a small plane and i had to mow the grass runway which was about 1/4 mile long. I drove the cars down the runway at high speeds between the corn fields. I got scolded for tearing up the grass once when i spun out and went just off the grass into the corn. Good times!😊

I bought a super clean no rust 92 Lincoln Mark VII LSC Special Edition last year. Very cool inexpensive classic that has the Ford 5.0 HO engine from the Mustang GT. Finished in garnet red metallic with black leather interior. It runs and drives great!

@Sedan57Chevy

Жыл бұрын

I miss seeing those Marks on a fairly regular basis. Loved how they looked and sounded!

@DinsdalePiranha67

Жыл бұрын

Through the years, one of my aunts has owned a Mark IV, a Mark V, a Mark VII and a Mark VIII - plus an Eldorado before the first of the Marks. I once joked with her that she had a long history of driving "pimp cars". :) She currently drives a Jaguar S-type.

@donaldwilson2620

Жыл бұрын

Good choice. I've always loved the Mark VII. I'm still debating if I would keep the air springs or go with an aftermarket coil spring conversion if I got one. I would also buy an LSC from 88-up because of the more powerful H.O engine and the analog gauges.

True story, I have a 71 Mark III that I’ve restored. The body shop I took it to has a garage & covered with thick dust I saw a 79 Lincoln Mark V Collectors Series in beautiful blue metallic moondust with low miles. The proprietor of the shop told me the old man that owns it paid for some dent repair & paint on a quarter panel, but never picked up the car because he doesn’t have room for it. He told me he sees the owner about once every 6 months. A year later (just this last December), I get introduced to the owner and after some discussion I acquired the car for $1,500. Paint, body, and interior is unbelievably clean. Since it has been sitting for a few years, I’m having to spend some money for a repair shop with a major tune up, new tires, brakes, etc. I didn’t need another Lincoln Mark, but it just kinda happened. Edit to add: In 79 the 400 CI was the only engine choice (no 460s). Sure it’s not quite as elegant, well built, or powerful as my Mark III, but it’s still a great cruiser. Lincoln made tons of Mark Vs but the Collectors Series / Diamond Jubilee / Designer series are rare in good condition. It’s an easy car to get into, parts are still cheap & easy to find, and it’s the last hurrah of the old American full sized dinosaurs. 👍

It took me 16 years to find my '53 Lincoln Capri. It wasn't in the condition I wanted, but it wasn't missing any parts, was the right color, and in a geography where I could get it carefully inspected and secured after I bought it. Turns out it was owned by Lincoln after manufacturing and was in the serial # range of the 5 cars prepared for the Carrera Panamericana. Mine didnt compete and was cannibalized for parts for the cars that did. I'll take that though.

The first and second generation of Lincoln Town Car (or any panther platform model) could be a good budget option for a classic ish car. I paid $500 for mine, and it's been very reliable and attracts a lot of attention. It's not quite the same as the older products, but offers a classic feel with modern features.

@RareClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

They’re getting somewhat pricey now but agree. I just don’t think they have the torque I so enjoy in the other cars.

@alecfromminnenowhere2089

Жыл бұрын

I went to a show in Panguitch, Utah last September and a guy brought his 2005 LT car to try to sell it. He ended up winning 1st place overall at the show.😆

@DinsdalePiranha67

Жыл бұрын

My folks have a '07 Town Car, which they bought used in '09 (I think). It has served them quite well over all these years. I've driven it more than a few times and as someone who daily drives a Miata, I don't particularly care for driving it. But it is a very nice car to ride in.

@joeniederhofer2566

Жыл бұрын

I bought my near mint '89 Town Car Signiture w/36k miles 7 yrs ago for $6,000. It now has 42k on it and I've been offered double what I paid more than once. It's no powerhouse, but super smooth, quiet and fairly economical. Especially compared to my '71 Coupe deVille that got about 10mpg!

@joshpeterson7241

Жыл бұрын

@Rare Classic Cars & Automotive History They definitely don't have the torque of the old big block cars, but they can also get mid to high 20s mpg on the highway, and I average around 20 in mixed driving. I would still love to have an older Lincoln or Mercury and hopefully will own one one one day, but for now, my 93 Jack Nicklaus Edition will be good enough until I can afford an older model. By the way, great video as always! This channel is growing quickly, and for good reason!

Growing up in the Midwest, I remember the vehicles you mentioned being on the road. By the late 70s when I was still in high school but my interest in cars was growing, I recall it was rare to see one without rust in the rear quarters. Coupled with the mid and late 70s oil supply problems, most buyers shied away from 400s, 455s, 460s, or large cars. Even in college, it was rare to see any friends driving one of those big ole boats. Not everyone could afford the gas. The late 70s & 80s Olds and Buick RWDs were also good cars, but succumbed to rust and lack of interest. The GM front drivers were decent but I never considered them to be great collector cars. My grandparents had 1987 88, followed by another a couple of years later after wrecking the first one. Both were 3.8s and had decent fuel economy and power without the annoying torque steer as bad as lesser vehicles. A 1992 and up Crown Victoria with a 4.6, either 190 or 210 hp versions with 2.73 rear ends will also hit 30 mpg on the road, even when loaded to the gills with passengers and luggage. For what it’s worth, I’d consider a 71-74 Ford if it had a 351C. I enjoyed those motors, even the 2Vs. They were fun in smaller Fords even though they didn’t have the power of the 4V cars.

My Mom's favourite car was her '87 Buick LeSabre T-Type in black, with the grey and black interior. That 3.8 litre made some pretty cool sounds, even from the original exhaust. She had it over 20 years and was sad to see it go (Dad decided they needed a stupid SUV in their life). I could have bought it cheap, but didn't, and now regret that...

I bought a 1964 Rambler American 330 last year and have been driving it every day since, i think i got lucky because its still running great all i have had to do is regular oil changes and one tune up.

@mpetersen6

Жыл бұрын

The more "desirable" (1) model of course is the 440 hardtop. And far too often if somebody has one they do an engine swap too either a SBC or a Windsor. If I had one and was going to a swap I think I'd go with one of the following. RB26, 2JZ or a Honda K series. Dare too be Different. 1) The reason for the quotes are it's a niche collector car being a Rambler.

@crankychris2

Жыл бұрын

@@mpetersen6 I had a 327 Packard motor in my '64 Ambassador 990, it was the optional HO engine, 10.2 CR 270 HP, very durable and cheap junkyard find, Being OEM it fits great. Fun fact: the 327's came with a Mopar A727 Torqueflite flooir shift tranny, 3:55 'Sure Grip' rear end and steering gear made by GM 'Saginaw'. Ford [Mallory] contributed the electricals. The 60's Ramblers really WERE "American Mptors". That means parts are easy to source. 👍

@mpetersen6

Жыл бұрын

@@crankychris2 The AMC 327 did not come from Packard. They used Packard V-8s for one or two years in the mid 50s. The 250, 287, 327 Gen 1 AMC V-8s came out in 57 iirc. Prior to 73 AMC used Borg Warner automatics. And no the AMC 327 is not a Chevy 327. Infact the AMC 327 came out 4 or 5 years before the 327 SBC. The only thing they have in common are being V-8s and have the same bore and stroke. The AMC 327 actually had two different castings. The two barrel had windows in the crank webs. The four barrel version had solid crank mains. There is somebody one KZread building 430 plus CID 327. The crank bores have a .125" overbore provision cast into the block. Look the Wikipedia pages

I would add the Ford Thunderbird - you can find a fairly decent selection for late late ‘60s to late ‘70s models that have typically lead pampered lives. Watchers of this channel are probably already familiar with the powertrains, but a quick recap - all big blocks, C6s and 9” from mid ‘60s though 1976, with the 400 2V available for another 2 years. I understand the mid 60s stuff has some unique and tough to procure suspension and steering components, but others may know more about that. Basically, all the advantages that Adam refers to when he talks about full sized Fords and Mercs, but still fairly easy to procure.

@jeffrobodine8579

Жыл бұрын

The 1967 -69 models with the hidden headlights are hidden gems at good prices still. This is my pick for value per dollar with room to climb.

I would be EXTREMELY careful about buying ANY 1971 model year GM products. There was a huge, prolonged labor strike at GM in the fall of 1970 that forced management onto the lines to build the cars, and of course they didn't know what they were doing. My father bought a dark green '71 Olds Delta 88 two-door we took delivery of in January 1971. I was 8 and still remember him cursing the rattles we heard as soon as we drove the car off the lot. (We traded in a '66 Dodge Polara 500 coupe I loved.)

@brianlaurance8570

Жыл бұрын

My experience varied. My parents bought a new '71 Buick Centurion Formal Coupe in December 1970 -- just a couple of weeks after the UAW strike concluded. The car was excellent, and I kept it until the fall of 2021. The car was very solid, rattle-free, and completely free of mechanical trouble throughout our many years of driving it.

@jeffrobodine8579

7 ай бұрын

@@brianlaurance8570 Remember the old "never buy a car produced on a Monday or a Friday" trope from back in the day.

A 1972 Delta 88 was my first very first car. You're right - it's a great car. Unfortunately, in upstate New York, with all the salt on the road, mine was rusted out by the mid-80's. I'd love to find another one if I could.

HI ADAM,, GREAT VIDEO!!! YEAR'S AGO I HAD A 1972 OLDSMOBILE DELTA 88, WITH A ROCKET ENGINE,, GREAT CAR SMOOTH RIDE ,, ROYALE BLUE ..THANK'S AGAIN,, GREAT VIDEO AND PICTURES.. PEACE....

Found your channel a couple months ago and have really enjoyed the vids. I found this one particularly interesting. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and love of cars.

Please give us a tour of your fleet. I'm sure many viewers would love that! I certainly would!!

I've been searching for a Cadillac Seville between the years 76 through 79 been searching for almost a year-and-a-half , finally stumbled across one traveled 4 hours to see it in a non working condition and hadn't been registered in 35 years, the person was asking $3000 the guy wouldn't budge I walked away and it was sold two days later, I live in the Northeast unfortunately these cars a little bit harder out this way to come by

I've owned two 77 Coupe DeVilles and a 77 Olds 98. Great cars! Also had a 91 Coupe DeVille with the 4.9 V8. Loved that car! If you did the speed limit it knocked down 29 mpg!

My late father was a Buick guy. He preferred full sized or luxury sized cars. He typically bought 4 door hardtops (not sedans with the B pillar) because they could be had at 1/2 of the price, or less than the two door hardtops. But he did own a few Rivieras and LeSabre two door hardtops.

@stevespatola763

Жыл бұрын

The 4d hardtop are attractive. I iwn my 2d 56 Chevy 210 4d hardtop. Great lines and actually a little lower than the 2 door hardtop. They're a lot less money, too. Recent at a car show, a lady came running over to my car, claiming she just had to have my car. For that demand, she offered me sex. Of course, I deflected saying my wife would object.

While I enjoy and agree with Adams choices, my choice is a Corvair. Great underrated cars available at reasonable prices.

@timothykeith1367

Жыл бұрын

The Corvair is an excellent choice. I recently saw one for sale - not original and unrestored, but a $3,000 driver.

@eisenerballer

Жыл бұрын

There are only 7 corvairs listed for sale in all of Canada on Kijiji ( our much better version of craigslist) 2 are quite expensive. 2 are quite bad. Our climate has not been nice to those poor cars

I appreciate you sharing your experiences and your recommendations! I love learning about these old cars and what kinds of goodies they had from the factory. I'm not a collector of these old rides, but I do eventually want to buy a late 80's/early 90's GM vehicle. I've got a 1990 Chevy S10 Pickup, which, around here in NE Tennessee, they're still around albeit a bit rusty and leaking exhaust fumes like no tomorrow, but if I can get a coupe or sedan from this year range, then I'd be happy. I personally feel like the late 80's and then early 90's is the limit on parts availability and even then, that's pretty stretched to say because sometimes, you've got to head over to eBay and hope you can find a New Old Stock part. Scrapyards tend to get rid of them as they come in due to their age and condition by this point. I really admire the work you guys put into fixing these old vehicles also for that reason - the dedication to find working parts, or rig the current ones to work even after they've failed years prior.

A friend of mine was always telling me about how junk quality the seventies Fords were, but I bought one last year, a 1972 LTD Brougham, for $500. So far, it actually seems like a fairly high quality automobile. I personally focus on things like sheetmetal thickness and body panel rigidity quite heavily, and I've found that my 1972 LTD Brougham is almost completely on par with my 1968 Pontiac, in some areas even surpassing it. It's a comfortable, soft sprung car, well built car. As for the door closure, it's not as smooth or as effortless as my 1968 Mercury by a long shot, but the doors do close very firmly, with none of the shifting that the doors on my 1985 LTD Crown Victoria have. The bumpers and plastic grille are the weakpoint, those are flimsy to the point of absurdity, but overall, the car is of good quality. By 1972, the interiors seem to have started using a lot more plastic, but it actually doesn't bother me. It's not as cheap-feeling and hard to look at as dashes got in the later years. One note, the springs of the 72 Ford are *extremely* soft, softer than even my previously mentioned post-downsize Ford, despite the 72 outweighing it by several hundred pounds. If you like soft springs and heavy bodies, early seventies full size Fords with original springs have got to be the epitome of a high weight to spring rate ratio. If the springs were any softer, the car would probably bottom out when filling up with gasoline.

Adam is spot on about these cars getting harder to find. For a few years, I owned 3 LT1 Roadmasters. I could typically find a nice one without too many miles, along with the occasional LT1 Caprice or Fleetwood for $5 -$7 grand. Over the last 3-4 years, they all disappeared.

Thanks Adam!

I was searching for a 77 Monte Carlo which are kinda rare in Germany. Finally having the chance to sit in one, I figured that I wouldn't fit in due to a massive lack in head- and legroom (bench seat). So I ended up with a much roomier 1975 Buick Regal 350-4. Only 61K miles with zero rust. Unfortunately Regal's are even more rare than Monte's, so I never saw a second one yet, which is kinda sad. Seems like not too many 75 Regal's survived in good original condition and therefore seem almost forgotten and not desirable for collectors. Although being rare, this made surviving Regals rather affordable in comparison to other classics of that aera. Good for me, cause I love mine.

@jeffrobodine8579

7 ай бұрын

I purchased a 1976 Monte Carlo Landau a couple years ago off of a 74 year old lady. Her Father purchased the car brand new and her 96 year old Mother had it sitting in her garage since 1994 when her Husband died. I was not looking for a car like this but when I seen the for sale sign in the window I had to check it out. The vehicle is in it's original Buckskin Gold and has 14,800 original miles on the G code 400 cubic inch small block V-8. The interior including the factory swivel bucket seats are immaculate and the interior has a fresh "new" smell in it, even after owning it for almost two years. It is optioned out with power everything. Tilt wheel, cruise control, a/c and remote passenger mirror (mechanical). I was not looking for this car since I already have a 1970 Cadillac Eldorado but I could not pass it up.

I have found that out of the GM 71-76 full size B bodies the Olds offerings are easiest and cheapest to find.

@RareClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Agree. And they’re great. Excellent engines.

@mowallday

Жыл бұрын

@@RareClassicCars is love to hear your take on the condition of these cars and how bad they can be for you to still buy.

@mr.g3914

Жыл бұрын

@@RareClassicCars would you do the Buick Centurion or the Cadillac Coupe deville 1979 ( 425 ) Motor .. No body ever do those Two

@RareClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

@@mr.g3914 I have a video out there on the Centurion.

@waynejohnson1304

Жыл бұрын

@@RareClassicCars Unfortunately, many were lost to demolition derbies.

I feel a special connection with you Adam. My first car when in high school was a 1970 Delta 88 Royale coup with the 455 two barrel carb. I wrecked it on the way home for Thanksgiving when a freshman in college. It was a great car, and I still miss it. I'm curious as to why the 1971 is your favorite. The other thing we share in common is that years later I purchased and thoroughly enjoyed a 1979 Cadillac Seville, triple colonial yellow with the 350 Olds engine. I realize yours was the diesel. I have always been a big fan of those old Olds rocket engines, and from several of your comments, it seems that you are too. Thanks for your very interesting and informative videos about the aumotive era I remember with great fondness. All the best, Paul.

@youtold7727

Жыл бұрын

Hi Paul just wanted to say my name is Paul and I had a 70’ Delta 88 and wrecked it as well. I bought it from my aunt in 77’ for $500. It had 32,000 miles on it and it purred. It was a miracle I survived the accident but man did I miss that car.

@Cstoreri

Жыл бұрын

The earlier cars rode better/felt more put together.

@paul58moore

Жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, and thanks for the message. That is just too wild! Some kind of synchronicity going on there. I would add that it was a miracle that I survived as well. I was 18 with poor judgement, driving way too fast at night and rear-ended a 76 Cutlass. Both cars were totaled. Thankfully, no life was lost. Now, thanks to your message, I know that at least one other guy named Paul had much the same experience, lived to tell about it, and has missed that Olds ever since. Perhaps we should join Adam and see if we can find us another one. Cheers, Paul.

@youtold7727

Жыл бұрын

@@paul58moore.Thanks for the reply. I was 17 and traveling @115 mph on a dark highway on December 7, 1977 Came around a bend and there to my surprise was the police, ambulance and tow trucks due to an accident soon before I got there. I veered left to avoid killing several people and hit a telephone pole. In those days they were made of wood. I then traveled several feet and rolled over down an embankment. No seatbelt and I crawled out of the car and walked up to the highway. The police couldn’t have been nicer. They were almost in tears (no kidding) cause they knew whoever was in that olds was dead. They was so relieved to see me alive. I do remember screaming out loud, God I don’t want to die! Was scary. Be thankful my friend we are survivors.

@paul58moore

Жыл бұрын

@You Told Paul. Thanks for sharing your story. So many interesting parallels, dark night, too fast, etc. Your wreck was more severe than mine. I did have on my lap belt but not the shoulder belt. Remember how in those cars the lap and shoulder belts were separate with the latter clipped against the head liner just above the side windows. Most people never took them down. The lap belt kept my torso away from the wheel, but my head was thrown forward in the impact, and my chin struck the wheel. Bruised me up a bit. The driver of the Cutlass I hit did stop very abruptly in front of me to make a left turn. She (a young high school girl) was waiting for an oncoming semi to pass. I was somewhat blinded by the lights of the truck and did not see her turn signal, but had I not been going so fast, I likely could have avoided hitting her. She was not seriously injured, but her little 4 or 5yo brother was in the car and was thrown against the dash injuring his knee. I think my insurance company finally settled with them for around $17,000 in late 70s money. Out of curiosity Paul, where did your accident occur? Mine was in Arkansas on Hwy 71 south out of Fayetteville. I had actually made it through the Boston Mountains (the steepest and most curvy part of the trip) and was approaching the small town of Alma where the wreck occurred. Unlike your situation, the state trooper who worked the accident was very condescending and rude to me. I probably deserved it though. After all these years (turned 65 last Sunday), I still feel bad about that wreck. I guess though, like so many other past events, that's one of those things we don't get to rewrite. Thanks for serving as my therapist Paul. It was cathartic sharing this story with someone who has lived through a very similar dark night experience in a 1970 Delta 88. When I hit the Cutlass, the impact ruptured my radiator. I can still smell the steam and hot antifreeze on the pavement on that cold November night 47 years ago. Fun corresponding with you Paul. Stay safe. Paul.

‘76 Electra Hardtop. Nothing better!

Great video and advice. As someone who has lived through and driven/owned several that you referred to I can personally vouch for your recommendations.

Total YES re early '70s Fords. My 1972 Country Squire 429 4bbl, bought as a rust bucket in '81, was still a dream drive for years.

Very good presentation. I agree with you on many points. I think the 1972-1974 Marquis Broughams are really nice, but, a rare find. For a while Mark III's were all over the place. The Oldsmobile 98's have traditionally been great values for the money. And I disagree about the interiors. The 1971-1976 Olds (98) Regency's and the Buick (Electra/ Park Avenue) Limited's had great interior and fabric selections. The 98's had a heavier feel to them and the Electra's were more nimble. Either way, most of them were usually loaded with options. Also, the Toronado's and Riviera's can sometimes be a good deal as long as the rust or neglect hasn't killed them. The big issues always seem to be the air conditioning systems, and (neglected) front-end work and rust. They tell you "well, I haven't had time to fix it, but, it shouldn't be anything major". My response is usually something like "then you must not want to sell the car or you would have it working" or "you just called me stupid"! Funny about that black '79 98. I have been watching that one, too. Now in South Carolina. That small engine kills it. But, those wheels!!! I find it interesting how well the downsized 77-79 98's and Electras have held-up. It's amazing how many nice ones are still out there. Of course, the same applies to the Cadillacs but they are pricey. Is anything more rare than a minty 1980 Fleetwood Brougham? The New Yorker Broughams had great interior choices! But, that cheap plastic dash was a turn-off especially on the Imperials. I remember when they couldn't give the early 1970's Imperials away, but, the New Yorkers held their value.! I think there is always the issue of upkeep. A lot of people get starry-eyed when they find one of these old gems, but, they don't take into account the upkeep. Especially if people want a daily-driver! They want it brand-new key-ready! It helps if you know how to rebuild a carburetor, or do a tune-up. Re-Build brakes, etc. And the issues of finding high octane fuel, lead additives, or knowing how to adjust for lower-octane ( or that damned ethanol) fuels. It is getting harder and harder to find a neighborhood garage that still has someone who knows how to work on them as most of those guys are in cemeteries at this point. Great discussion!

@jeffrobodine8579

Жыл бұрын

Adam bought them all.

A wonderful overview of the full-size classic or antique car market, Adam.

I would so love to have another 1984 Dodge K-car like the one I bought new in college, with a/c, AM radio and stick shift. Not a chance, unfortunately.

@tomtheplummer7322

Жыл бұрын

...rusted back to dust.

@timothykeith1367

Жыл бұрын

The A-460 manual 4 speed is hard to find today, parts only available from salvaged units

@jayski8987

Жыл бұрын

🤮

@loveisall5520

Жыл бұрын

@@jayski8987 Sorry--I'm an adult and don't read cartoons for children.

Back in the early 70’s an older coworker came in driving a 54 Olds 98 4dr. I knew the car and the original owner. They couldn’t drive because of age. I hounded my coworker until he finally sold it to me for $250 bucks. It was practically new. The skirts were missing. I remember a high school buddy’s uncle had a 54, but he said it was long gone. But the skirts were in the garage attic. A perfect fit and didn’t even have to paint them.❤

My mom and dad had a 70 Delta 88 455/2bl carb. It was 4 door, not a lot of options but really well built and lots of power. We used to pull a 25’ Prowler all over WV. All two lane mountain roads and it handed that really well. They had it for over 15 years. Ran great the entire time. I wish I had it today. I always thought the 88s had great lines.

I like all the GM divisional 1965-76 A and B bodies it is what I grew up with. Yes, there are deals on the 1970's Olds and Buick full size cars but there are not many of them around. The very clean ones get scooped up really fast nowadays. I worked as a GM technician at a Chev, Buick and Pontiac dealerships in the 1980's here in MI. At that time, every now and then, a customer would drive their low mileage 1970's car in the dealer for repair. I enjoyed working on them and still do as an owner of 2 older Chevys. I saw your interview with John Manoogian designer of the 1997-03 Grand Prix. Great interview. I owned a 1998 GP SE with a 3800 and a 2001 GP GT, both 4 door sedans. I absolutely loved those cars.

I had a 71 Olds Ninety-Eight...455 hardtop 4 door. Loved that thing..such a cruiser

Whatever a person buys, they also need to have it maintained and get it in good running condition-witness all the knowledge, time and work Adam puts into them, especially carbs and brakes-if you aren’t adept at that you need to have a mechanic you know and trust, are able to get the parts you need (remember, up until the late ‘70s, each division had their own in-house engines) and of course, deep pockets to pay for the gasoline and additives to keep it operating on the road. Most of the pre-1977/‘78 models got around 7 mpg (mid ‘70’s Toronado) to 12 or 13 at best.

When I was a kid I missed out on 72 delta 88 convertible in royal blue

I had a 74 Olds Delta 88 Royale and a 78 98 Regency. Still love those models🤙

Adam, Thanks for the advice and good luck rounding out your collection. I have a 'gut feeling' you might be open to adjusting your wish list just a wee bit if the right car comes along 😉

You hit the nail on the head. Glad you appreciate Oldsmobiles.

Great info Adam, thanks!

Spot on review of what to look for, hardest mission is finding one worth buying.

I'd love to have another 350 powered 76 Buick Regal, I had one from 79-82, that was a very nice ride!

I recently saw a '72 Ford LTD CONVERTIBLE with a 429 CI engine, and the owner said it rode and operated fantastically!!! Thanks very much for this very informative video.

😃I am very impressed with your mechanic's skills! and your well-studied background

In the movie "Stripes" released in June 1981. Almost exactly a year after a signed up for a USAF military scholarship to pay for my Medical School. I paid back the time I owed them. And got out in June 1991, shortly after the Gulf War. In the movie, at around the 15 minute mark. Bill Murray and his friend, Harold Ramos have decided to join the Army. In a smoking beater, that I think is a 1971 Chevrolet Impala, they drive up and park the car. The store owner says "You can't park that here. It's a loading zone." They respond with, "We're not parking it, we're abandoning it." At first, I thought it was a Buick like I've seen in your recent videos. But, looking at Google pictures, the grill is Chevrolet. Can you, or anyone else, use your keen eyes and knowledge to determine if I'm right about the year and model of the car? There are 2 emblems on the side of the left front fender. The one on front of the wheel well looks like a Chevy engine badge(?). Behind the wheel well is a Cursive Stylized name that I just can't make out. Thanks for any help. BTW. The movie is full of Great cars driving around the downtown area while he's driving his cab earlier in the movie. I tried to spot them and pick out the Make and Model but I'm not quick enough. Great lines. "Come on. I'm part of a lost and restless generation."..."Where's that sharp knife we have."..."Talk about massive potential for growth. I am the little acorn that becomes the Mighty Oak"..."And then...Depression set in." Plus he pays trubute to Tito Puente Albums. Bill Murray is a comedic genius.

I think one of the implications for Buicks & Oldses dominating this is that for a long time those engines available were division specific, and for a long time too, given how long the Olds 307 was in production. There might be some irrational fear about parts availability or ability to service them. Also there's the implications that because they came with larger engines, they might be less economical to run than your average 283, 305, 307, 327, 350 Chevrolet, which isn't always the case (especially the economy tuned/axle ratio'd torque monsters that don't have to rev as much as a SBC tied to a powerglide). Nostalgia too, since other than the 70's and 80's, There was 1.5 to 2mil Chevrolets being cranked out a year to more working class buyers that would have kept their cars longer versus 400-600K Buicks and Oldses until they started selling millions of cars a year that, due to buyer affluence, got traded perhaps more often (and disposed of).

Gotta agree with the 88-91 I had an 88 and 89 lesabre…both fully optioned ‘factory official’ cars my dad, as a gm salaried employee purchased at around 3500 miles at a significant discount. Both cars were fantastic !

My first car was the 1973 Cutlass Supreme!! 350 Rocket !! They changed the body that year!! A great looking car and i feel it was underrated!! Love the show!

Love your videos!!

Hello Adam, as always great videos very informative and always giving respect to classic cars that many do not appreciate. Hey, good to know that the 1973 Ford LTD was one of your recommendations , I have one with the 400 cubic (6.6 litre) engine, with a C6 Transmission. i just love it.

Good presentation of options available. It's nice to know there are still some cars that are affordable if you want a classic comfortable Sunday car to cruise in and visit car shows/gatherings with. In regards to latter years, I realize a 2009 Buick Allure with a 3800 isn't an old-classic, but I will eventually have a low mileage one in my possession. I hope I can keep it for a long time if I am not able to find one you have showcased in this video. Thanks for this video 🍁

07:10 it took me a year to find my 75 Lesabre 455 coupe. I was looking for a 73-75 Buick century Regal, a 71-73 Buick Riviera (prices went up to much) or a 76 lesabre. Then I stumbled across my car and pulled the trigger on it. Canada was where i looked because of low prices and lots of 70ties behemoths there

Great video, thank you!

Interesting that the full size Chevies and Cadillacs command the highest prices, yet more of them survived than the Olds, Buick, Pontiacs. Not to mention Fords/Mercury/Mopar/AMC barges, those are RARE now days. Until about 5 years ago the 86-92 Cadillac Brougham was pretty affordable, you could buy a nice one for under $10,000 all day long. I daily drove a 91 for 3 years/30,000 miles. Gotta say it was rock solid reliable, looked like a 70's Cadillac but was basically a Chevy truck with fuel injection under the skin.

The price of everything is skyrocketing. Even cars like Mopar's fuselage body 4 doors are going for pretty steep prices compared to a few years ago. It's absurd.

@440mgnm

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Agreed

Non convertible Eldorados are usually pretty cheap, everyone wants the convertible. 71-78 Toronados also are pretty under the radar.

I bought an 86 Lesabre because it was an entry level collectible. Not the 3800 but still a solid motor wrapped in luxurious velour

Great video Adam!!

Agreed! I myself have a 1970 Chevy Caprice and I intend on buying at least some more cars such as LTDs, Mercurys and so forth. I have always been a fan of the full-sized Ford, Mercs and GM models. They are the least expensive and you get a wonderful driving experience with many of these cars.

Great video!! I'm looking for an ACRS Talisman Fleetwood Brougham with cloth seats....

@RareClassicCars

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That will take a while to find!

Thanks Adam Great Job .

Adam, I realize that you are not interested in most muscle cars and Corvettes. But, I would like to mention that if you are looking for well cared for older cars one that comes to mind is C4 (84 to 96) and C5 Corvettes (97 to 2004). With both versions you can find many well cared for reasonably priced cars. And both version are relatively economical. I realize that they are not as unique and some of what you just mentioned but, it is a start in classic car hobby.

I really enjoy this channel. It's interesting.

I bought and resold several dozen cars in the last 25 years, which was foolish. (I only have two old cars now, one of which is a project) The only GM that I owned was a 66 Cadillac Sedan De Ville Hardtop, which is Caddy speak for 4 door hardtop. It was a 60 something thousand mile car and had been really cared for. White exterior with black cloth interior. It also had the factory bucket seats with a slim console. (look in the 66 brochure if you doubt what I say). It was a pretty cool car with a great AM radio and comfortron heat-AC. Power window, but not vents. Power driver seat. It was a very long car with lots of room under the hood with the Caddy 429, I believe a bored and stroked version of the original 49 Caddy V8 in production all of those years. The trunk was huge. The backseat had enough leg room for anyone. One of the handful of cars that I wish I had kept.

I just found your channel & just subscribed and hit the alert button. Awesome information brother 👍

@RareClassicCars

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Welcome aboard!

@KA-te7xk

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@Rare Classic Cars & Automotive History Thank you sir ! Keep that high quality content & integrity in this area coming 👍

@rightlanehog3151

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@@RareClassicCars It is a rare honour to have the admiral of the fleet of land yachts welcome you aboard 🤩

Great advice. What do you think of the mid 90's Buick Park Avenue-Ultra? I have seen some last into the 300'sK. I know the shocks are a complicated expensive issue. I just think they are the last of the traditional looking Buicks from the mid 20th century. I also like that they have some of the modern safety equipment and are fantastic cruising car for car shows.

@RareClassicCars

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In general, they’re good cars

you got any pick ups or vans. thanks. great channel been watching for long time

Thank you for sharing Adam I like these cars as much or more than the high dollar classics Thank you for the video, wich car did you have to work on for months ??? ....just curious An Aqua Pontiac 4 door hardtop around 67 , I would like , I had a 67 Bonneville and a 67 Grand Parisiene , I miss them treasures Keep em coming

The Facebook user interface is "not that good" is definitely an understatement.

Nice vid. I see how classic car ownership has subtlety changed over the last 10 years. Best reliable car for around a $10k a budget is worth a go.

Your channel is great.

Love the way the Buicks look, eventually will be getting a Fullsize Buick again. Miss my '69 LeSabre 400 dearly. Might train my G-body Grand Prix for one, though proba ly not. They may not be really worth much from a collectors perspective, but I still have all the dealership paperwork for it that the original owner signed. Really cool and interesting history imo. Also, those th200 Metric transmissions are not the greatest, but my th200r4 (4 speed OD) is a great transmission. I like it better than the th700r4 transmission myself. The th200r4 has a better 1-2 gear split, and deeper OD gear for better potential mpg. Love your vids!

Great video Adam. Your collection has inspired me to jump into the collector car hobby. I’m looking at value luxury buys and this is a great guideline. My first want is a clean M-body Fifth Avenue. I know they aren’t rocket ships, but they’re pleasant boulevard cruisers that would be fun for a Cars and Coffee event. I know the Fifth Ave brings the dreaded Lean Burn, but I understand the 318 and TorqueFlite to be otherwise solid.

@RareClassicCars

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They are pretty good cars.

I picked up a '72 2 door Galaxie 500, black w/ black vinyl top. 400 engine with the intake and carb changed out, Edelbrock. She needed and still needs some work, much do some younger people had their hands on it. It is fun to drive and was a pretty cheap purchase. I have taken her to a few car shows and I would say about 90% of the people are not interested, but the 10% that are have lots of stories to tell about the one they had when they were younger.

I really enjoyed this overview of the classic car market. Would love to have you do a video overview of your collection-- how many cars, etc.

@rightlanehog3151

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After a couple of years of watching his videos, I believe Adam likes to keep us in suspense in regard to the precise contents of his collection.

My dad bought new a 1972 Delta 88 Royale coupe. 455 v8. Light metalic green with dark green cloth interior. In 1980, when i got my license, had to keep out of the throttle. Got 8 mpg. But boy, it sure could get that bias tire smokin!

Great 👍 review Adam 👍 ! I will definitely keep my 81 Oldsmobile Delta 88 , I am looking for a early 70s Full-sized Ford or Mercury sedan .

You know some time back, a friend & I were keeping an eye on a '48 DeSoto that was sitting in a field & had been there for sometime. We did track down the owner of whom at the time was not selling. We offered $1000 for the car which at that time was a pretty decent offer. He took our names & address' & told us he would seriously think about it. He had no plans for the car & appeared indifferent to what it's fate might be. As the prices of old cars began to climb we went back again & approached him about the sale. Well, we got a totally different story this time! The car had now become his past pride & joy (as it still sat there in the field in the same spot as it had for years rusting away) & to buy that car now, well, he could not let it go for any less than $6500!!! My friend & I told him politely & in no uncertain terms that he could " stuff it". During the many times we would drive by that place the car continued to sit there & rust away. So much for his "pride & joy!". When prices are low, an old car sitting rusting away in a field is just that...a piece of junk. When prices start to climb...oh it's the best car they ever owned!!! In it's present condition in the last time we both saw it the darned wheels would'nt have fetched $1000!!

I remember my parents having a 1974 LTD BROUGHAM with a 400. The oil light would flash at idle, starting around 75,000 miles. And we’d hear the main bearing thump at startup and occasionally at hot idle. But the engine still lasted until about 150,000 which was pretty good for that era. I found that to be a characteristic of the351M-400 . They would last a long time even with the low oil pressure at idle and loose main bearings.

@jeffrobodine8579

7 ай бұрын

My friend had a beat up 1976 Mercury Marquis with the 351M motor back in High School in the early 1990's and that car was unstoppable. I could not believe it withstood the abuse that car was put under. He finally blew the rear end and drive shaft doing standoffs like a goof.

I spend too much time on marketplace and other spots looking for a deal. The only one I've seen was a '77 302 powered Grenada coupe, which happened to be at a dealership. I was just driving by on a Friday evening about ten minutes before they closed. They'd listed the car the day before. My understanding was that someone was on their way to see it, and the Granada was gone by the next week. Wish I could've made a move... Guess it wasn't meant to be. Everything you listed in this video has been on my shortlist of specific cars to keep an eye out for, but prices have gone up and it seems supply has really dried up at least in my general area PS that Olds on BAT is super nice, based on the videos the current seller has posted. That wouldve been a pretty awesome addition to any fleet at 14k! I love the Olds front end on the 77-79s, not so much the Buicks of the same years.

I have 3 of the cars on his list, all purchased before the video : 1971 Chrysler New Yorker 4 dr sdn 1971 Ford LTD 2 dr htp 1973 Chrysler New Yorker Brougham 4 dr htp

When you mention the big block Fords in your first selection, you should mention the horrendous MPG's they get. I lived through that era, if you got 10 mpg you were lucky. Back when the Oldsmobiles and Buicks were new, they were bought (mainly) by old people. They weren't my cup of tea then, but now, they are pretty cool rides. And yes, the Buick 3.8 is as iconic a GM engine as the SBC.

The 1977-1990 GM B-Body cars are my favorite of all. My 1996 Buick Roadmaster sedan is okay. But the older generation is better. Especially the early ones. Your 1977 Impala is my favorite. My first car was a 77 Impala 4 door with a single barrel 305. It was beat up and run down. But I would love to have it back

Everytime I "click" = A _Wealth_ of knowledge. every single time

For late model "classicish" gm I highly recommend 91-96 b-body preferably 94-96 lt1 cars. Wagons are becoming increasingly popular and valuable. Thanks to tons of praise from KZreadrs and other car show competitions that feature them. 96 would be the best year for lt1 because of obd2 diagnostics. But 95 and 96 had vented opti sparks that helped eliminate issues. Very nice rear wheel drive full size body on frame cars that are relatively quick and keep up with modern traffic with no problems

@johnz8210

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100%. Great full size cars, and fuel mileage is pretty good too.

@92nbush

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@@johnz8210 I have a 95 caprice wagon lt1 posi rear with 2.93 highway gear (for now). And got 26mpg at 75mph. It's like driving a couch down the road.

@johnz8210

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@@92nbush Cool. My Mom had a 94 Roadmaster and it got mileage like that - at 75 mph. I drove it on one of those Florida highways - 80 mph at around 2100 rpm. Great cars. I also have a friend with a 95 Impala SS - another nice ride.

Having watched a couple of your videos it naturally occurred to me to wonder if it was practical to own a classic car, and if so, where to look for them. This was a great intro to that, giving an actual list of candidates that would be safe bets. It's really weird that depreciation was more (prices lower) for cars that were more expensive when new. Doesn't make sense but what does?

78-87 GM G-bodies can still be found for pretty cheap. restoration and aftermarket performance parts are limitless. I picked up a ‘79 Hurst/Olds for $1,500. She needs a little work, but it’s a solid car.

@jeffrobodine8579

7 ай бұрын

I see a lot of videos of the old G bodies getting big rims and LS motors from the younger crowd.

Thanks for the video. I’m looking for a classic and this is helpful. I currently have an 86 ford crown Vic ltd lx that I enjoy. I want ltd though.

Bill at Competition Cars has recently featured that black 98 in several videos. It's a cool car with the slick to and those rare wheels.

I bought a 1975 Chevy Monte Carlo Landau back in November 2022, Last Year! I Love It! It is just like My Parents' 1976 Monte Carlo Landau with a 350 V8 & a 2 Barrel Carburetor, in which They ordered & bought brand new, which became My 1st car when I turned 16 back in 1986! I should have never sold that '76 Monte! I am holding on to My '75 Monte till I pass away! 😍👍

You guys Always give e great advice, thanks I bought a 1968 mustang convertible needs rest0 but well be ATENDEN TO .

I agree the Facebook marketplace is a great hunting ground. I find cars, though, with squirrelly sellers, who won’t answer basic questions or really reply. Some are selling for an elderly relative, and if you can’t talk to the real owner, it’s hard to ever make a deal. The ones I’ve found are usually not close, and when I’m ready to pounce, they go. I have narrowed my search to fewer makes/models. Totally agree about Pontiacs and Chevies being high. This is true even in muscle cars. I think patience is key.

I completely agree. I am always shocked by the prices of Chevy. I never did understand why such a basic car of the era would command so much more money, double if not triple in most cases. I can only assume that because they were cheaper more people owned them in the past.

The big blocks are nice, but pre-cat small blocks are a reasonable alternative. First of all, the big blocks were quick in their day, but even the fastest fullsizers from the mid ‘60s on are no quicker than a new CRV. Secondly, the small blocks are easy to work on and inexpensive to upgrade. BTW, David Visard had just released a video showing how to get an additional 50+ cfm out of a Carter 2 bbl. Do that, re-jet the thing, dual exhaust, recurve the distributor, port the heads and you’re going to get close to big block power. Don’t know how to do that? All the more reason to jump in and learn!!

Back in late ‘70’s, I owned a ‘73 Oldsmobile Delta 88, 2 dr., Green Metallic paint with matching green vinyl top, lighter green “brocade” interior, very comfortable front bench seat, and the Rocket V8-350 ci. Great cruiser, terrible gas mileage, maybe 10-12 mpg, 16-18 highway. Ran great until the timing chain skipped a tooth and became untimeable. I can’t imagine the Big Block for mileage. 😮

@jeffrobodine8579

7 ай бұрын

I had a 1973 Tornado with the 455 back in the early 1990's and got similar milage to your Delta 88 with the 350. I still think I have the fuel mileage logs I saved in a spiral notebook from back then.