at 4:20 a small correction, in the 90s it was the "Deutsche Mark", we had the Reichsmark in the second World War and up to 1948

@Miny___

18 күн бұрын

He's Dutch. I'm pretty sure, he knew what he said.

@typxxilps

18 күн бұрын

that was a joke, the same kind that Prince Philip once made when he spoke to Chancelor Kohl with the famous salutation "Herr Reichskanzler Kohl" which was the salutation in the dawn of Hitlers dictator ship before he became only the Führer. Could also be the honey trap to identify germans that would correct him.

@AirbornChaos

18 күн бұрын

@@typxxilps "Could also be the honey trap to identify germans that would correct him." Or coin collector...

@bldontmatter5319

18 күн бұрын

Or literally anyone who knows history?? ​@@AirbornChaos

@CathodeRayNipplez

18 күн бұрын

Oh FFS 🙄

I love how unbiased this video is.

@PatrickHemmes

2 күн бұрын

Something an informative video should be.

In 1991, in Italy FIAT had an electric version of the Panda ("Panda Elettra").

Babe wake up. Ed uploaded a new car history video

@giggiddy

18 күн бұрын

Wow. Thats original.

@witchcraftanditsconsequenc4280

18 күн бұрын

​@@giggiddyThanks, giggiddy

@Melrieoi

18 күн бұрын

Babe wake up... Oh right... You don't exist.

@user-ox8ii3io8n

18 күн бұрын

@@Melrieoi why?

@kutter_ttl6786

18 күн бұрын

​@@user-ox8ii3io8n Because you touch yourself at night.

as someone who actually grew up on Rügen im embarrassed to say that i didn’t know about this. But its cool to recognize some places in the Video. BTW its a beautiful place to vacation, would recommend anyone to come here.

@stixxx2k

5 күн бұрын

Sounded different with the 9€ Ticket :D

13:47 and of course, there was GM’s efforts in the EV1 and the Chevrolet S10 Electric (there are only 5 in the world that are still fully operational!)

@AFExploration

18 күн бұрын

GM tried earlier in the 80s with the GMC Griffon

@quintessenceSL

18 күн бұрын

Also a series hybrid of the EV1 that had a turbine in the trunk. GM actually had a huge head start in many respects and look at them now.

@talon262

18 күн бұрын

Jared at The Questionable Garage has one of those functional S-10 Electrics; originally, it was owned by the Air Force at one of their Georgia bases (unlike the EV1s, which could only be leased, the S-10 Electrics were offered for purchase outright, like any other GM vehicle, predominantly for fleet and government sales).

@digitalrailroader

18 күн бұрын

@@talon262 and as soon as he gets enough data and sees how the different computers talk to each other, he is going to build a lithium ion battery pack that is made of reclaimed Tesla battery modules!

@Foersom_

18 күн бұрын

In 1990-2000 PSA (nowadays Stellantis) sold 4x EVs more than GM EV1.

Thank you for pronouncing Rugen correctly. Then again, you speak Dutch, which is pretty close to German. Anytime an Ed's Auto Review shows up, I immediately watch it ASAP. I've been with you since the third episode.

ED!! I love your videos and get so excited when your notifications come across my phone!

Watching this while laying in the back of my EV while charging is quite fitting

Very interesting Video, I am from the beautiful State of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern in which Rügen is situated and never knew about this

I worked on hub motors in the mid to late 80ties. There were so many unsolved and missing technologies back then. Rare earth magnets were excessively expensive, power electronics heavy and unreliable, computing power still very limited, and no suitable battery chemistry available. It started to change in the early 2000s but the real leap came in the 2010s. And even today weight and range are a tradeoff. Just look at the net mass of the Tesla M3

@stevecha3612

17 күн бұрын

@@CAVALRY19Dmy insurance is $160/mo and my car drives itself

@foximacentauri7891

17 күн бұрын

​@@CAVALRY19D The personal car as a concept will be dead in 50 years. EVs are just a last ditch effort to safe a slowly dying concept.

@bandombeviews6035

14 күн бұрын

@@CAVALRY19D lithium batteries are not perfect. there's a lot that can be done at the very least in packaging to make them a lot better. for the depreciation, just buy used. evs rn are bargains and they will only get cheaper. and range on properly cooled packs (early leafs don't count, their cooling system is trash) doesn't degrade at the rate many people think.

@arnaudmeert1527

7 күн бұрын

@@foximacentauri7891 why would the personal car be dead as a concept? I know plenty of people who have two or more.

@theriverthatflows98

4 күн бұрын

@@foximacentauri7891 why should it be? If I live in the rural part of my country with no available public transport, I'm not getting rid of my car in any way, neither would anyone with a sane mind.

Have you ever considered doing a video on the Enfield 8000? It’s an electric car from the 70s that is very rare.

An electrified Sexo. I'm sorry. That made me laugh...Sounds like one helluva good night. Entering as always.

@tommylanger7686

18 күн бұрын

Saxo.

My farther in law worked for the Company wich made the Batteries for Daimler. Also for VWs EV-Experiments. He developed the grid of the cells.

They really did try in the 90s and early 00s. Unfortunately the tech wasnt there and the cars were always designed as understated nerd mobiles. Now they're just obnoxious nerd mobiles....

@gerarduspoppel2831

18 күн бұрын

The oil industry also did everything it could to destroy the electric car

@AKAtheA

18 күн бұрын

@@gerarduspoppel2831 yes, the "oil industry"...it wasn't the fact the batteries of the day at minimum doubled the cost of the car while making it worse in every performance metric possible, no, people would surely fight to pay double for a far less usable car...

@vask3863

18 күн бұрын

@@gerarduspoppel2831 LOL "the oil industry". True is that the battery & electric motor technology wasn't ready yet.

@TheOtherBill

17 күн бұрын

@@gerarduspoppel2831 The same "oil industry" that purchased and buried the patents on the 100 MPG carburetor, right?

@gerarduspoppel2831

17 күн бұрын

@@TheOtherBill . Never heard of that thing.

I still love the EV-1.

ED, I would like to say, I love your work!

"I want you to go back to the lobby, get some snacks, get back set back relax, as i bout to tell you the........." This line need a comeback for the ed's auto review OG

@johngraves6878

17 күн бұрын

No, IMHO it's ANNOYING. I don't need somebody to tell me how to relax.

@rulz273

17 күн бұрын

@@johngraves6878 suits yourself. Its your opinion

Thanks for doing these entertaining, er uh, informative episodes. 👍

Great episode as usual. Good job.👍🏻👍🏻

The 90s cars look just so muc better than modern EVs .. I drive a 1997 Volvo V70 … I would love if someone build it into a EV

@Colorado_Native

17 күн бұрын

I was thinking about how much better the BWW at 9:07 looked than anything they produce today. You know, the ones with two Peterbilt grilles stuck on the front end. They need to go back and look at the 635 CSi models produced in the 80s. Those were very nice, just gorgeous. Also the Volvo 850 models were great.

@slimjim1125

5 күн бұрын

All cars now look like they've been pumped out of the same mold at the factory, it's nothing EV specific...

@zeoxiro

4 күн бұрын

It depends on your preferences, I personally like old cars too, but I also very like how new cars look (not all of them, but at least Teslas are kinda fine)

@Harrock

4 күн бұрын

@@zeoxiro i bought a Passat CC 2008 as 2. Car ... much better fuel Economy, much better driving experience and also the look is pretty nice .. basicly a Budget CLS . But again , everytime i get into the Volvo i just feel relaxed ... its old its slow , its Boxy . You just relax , why bother driving over 100km/h ? It can drive 220 . I tried it but allready at 130km/h the fuel consumption is through the roof ! With a 70L Tank i come around 600-650km Maximum! I usually refill at 550-600km ... the Passat CC ? Same 70L Tank but 750-800km range ! If i drive only Autobahn 130km/h ... probably over 800km , only 100km/h ? Propably close to 1000km ! And its gasoline ! No Diesel

professional, fun, great knowledge and excellent 👍research.

My state gov here in the USA tried something similar, putting a small fleet of converted Chevy Metro's into shuttle service over a 40 mile run- it was a flop. No one had reckoned with the tremendous need for heat in our northern climate; gaining it via electrical resistance rather than from the 'waste' heat of an internal combustion engine's cooling system knocked out any chance the little ev's really had.

@mfbfreak

17 күн бұрын

You are fully right - back then, it would've been a serious drop in range if you draw a kilowatt or so continuously out of the battery. However, this issue was already solved in that era. There were diesel heaters that performed very well. Although it wouldn't be a completely electric vehicle, at the very least you reduce emissions dramatically in the warm season, and even in the cold season the little 2kW diesel heater would use much less fuel than a gasoline car. At 2kW burner power, you can expect about 1 liter of diesel per 5 to 8 hours.

@floydblandston108

16 күн бұрын

@@mfbfreak - we knew about that- we'd had gas heaters in our aircooled VW's for years- but the use of two fuels/two separate systems in one vehicle already induces a complexity putting the ev out of contention for average consumer use.

I Loved ICE. I pumped gas, worked at auto parts store, tire store & restored 72’ 240Z & 2 Datsun Roadsters 67 1/2” 1600/ 69’ 2000😅. I’m done wrenching. We own 2 Model Y’s❤️❤️. Never going back 💨. ✌🏻❤️🌎

Very interested episode!

UK manufacturers was always messing with elecric vehicles like the Bedford CF or GMC Griffon was the first mass produced electric van offered in the mid 80s, but i remember milk carts in the uk were all electric when i was growing up in the 1970s

Funny to see how many falling for Ed’s “reichmark” remark. 🤭 He is just joking. In Norway we do the same.

@Lvvcassss

19 сағат бұрын

Same goes for Poland ;)

What an awesome surprise to wake up to! Another E.A.R. Video!!!!

Thank you Ed. This was interesting from the European perspective about electric cars.. It will be interesting to see what other videos you will share on this subject. Excellent research.

There was also a small obscure project going on with FIAT in the 90s, I believe it was called the FIAT downtown or Zip. However in the real world only some ev conversions were sold, such as the Panda Elettra (YES AN ELECTRIC PANDA) or the fiat Seciento Elettra

I actually came across one of those electric Citicars from the 70s randomly parked in someone's driveway here in town when I was on a walk years ago!

really impressive video about a long forgottne german experiment and its results I had never heard of or can not remember even though I had been working in the headquarter of the oldest car manufacturer. How did you find the idea for this very niche topic unknown in germany ?

0:40 I love how you even pronounce the island's name correctly. Most 'Muricans simply say "Roogen", about the same as if I'd say "Neff York" :)

Great doc, I love those electric cars. I want to put a modern electric conversion unit in there

Reichsmark , did you mean Deutsche Mark ?

thats amazing. making old cars live so much longer!!!!

Wow, never ever heard of these EVs of the 90s. Amazing research and documentation

Ed great episode

My Dutch Firend! - Of course Germany has islands! And not only in the Baltic sea, but also in the North Sea, right next to the Dutch Frisian Islands… 🤣 Love your video series! What baffled me with this one is, that i had never heart before about the Rügen ExperimentI am German and lived in Germany in the 90's. Also i was a real car and techt enthusiast and for sure would have noticed this in the news. (Tagesschau…) - But Nada! Even in the German Wikipedia there is no article about this. 😲 Where did you find so much information about this?

Cant wait to see a video on the GM EV1 story its such a sad and tragic tale

Thanks for the EV history lesson, Ed !

Love waking up to a new EAR vid

God I love your videos you beautiful car nerd

Toledo in this gen was a liftback)

A guy in Yuba City, CA, used to show up at car shows wih a Baker electric car, I think a 1912. It was enclosed and in great shape and seemed to be built quite well. Could you feature that model some day? Baker merged with another company later. Enjoyed the video. Thanks.

Did you really say “Reichsmark?” Seriously?

@grahamhufton7715

18 күн бұрын

😂

@grahamhufton7715

18 күн бұрын

Ed is from the Nederlands. The little monster with the moustache still casts a long shadow

@Cherry-ms6pi

17 күн бұрын

God chillout

@nonionbeezness

4 күн бұрын

@@grahamhufton7715 true but we don’t go on about the Atlantic slave trade when it’s not relevant do we?

@annebokma4637

2 күн бұрын

​@@nonionbeeznesswell you did now 😂 as a dutchie I would like to thank you for reminding us how the Dutch became so rich. Now would you be so good as to ask your grandfather if my grandfather can have his bicycle back? 😎

Why havent i heard of this, this is so intressting❤❤

Pretty happy Ed didn't make fun of the original project title Erprobung von Elektrofahrzeugen der neuesten Generation auf der Insel Rügen. But that would have been a too easy joke.

Love the sim city 4 music!

@syaani

17 күн бұрын

I thought I was imagining things, but you're right!

I remember many Citroen and Peugeot around Ticino (Switzerland) in those days, half of them were commercial veichles. There were controversies on newspapers about some problems they had in highway use.

If you want to see something crazy, Jay Leno is converting his 1909 Baker electric to modern components.

Un grand merci à vous pour ce sujet très intéressant 👍 En tant qu'auditeur français de votre excellent travail, je tiens à vous dire que votre phrasé est très agréable et accessible pour moi. Mon opinion est que la VE imposée en France et en Europe n'aura pas l'avenir escompté car au final les VE ne sont pas écologiques, ne serait-ce que leur poids.. Pour moi, 2035 ne sera pas la fin des véhicules thermiques, mais plutôt celle des " enclumes à roulettes à piles " . Une question pour vous : Comment expliquez-vous, comprenez-vous l'actuelle gamme Renault avec tous ces SUV électriques et thermiques et l'abandon relatif des autres carrosseries ? Merci de votre attention. 🙏

Much appreciated!

Thanks Ed.

Fun fact: Alfa Romeo, who now, as one of the last, have introduced an EV (the second Junior), had an prototype hybrid in the 80’s.

The added random SC4 music made my day

didn-t have to go far for the foaming at the mouth at Reichsmark congrats Ed

I live in Mendrisio and the attempt made here in the 90s was called InfoVEL and promoted by one of the pioneers of ev mobility in Switzerland, who nowadays is still in business with charging station infrastructure. Unfortunately that attempt was way too ahead of the times and ended in 2015. Some of the original charging stations are still around and working, most of them were replaced by new ones running under a different company. I clearly remember the old 106 and similar driving around in silence and they could be charged for free. I think i have even around some old documentational cds of the project

Thanks for this video😀 and without a company making EVs with longer range and high power, we would face still the same situation as back then 😉

The 1990s in germany? So like, 1991 or 1998? Im not a german, but I feel like there would be a significant political difference between those two times, it would make the story you're telling more complete. Edit: 1992, wow, germany didn't take long to get spending on random "environmental" projects

2:02 to 2:30 is a Chevy Corvair from 1965. I own a 65 Corvair convertible, not electric of course.

@61rampy65

18 күн бұрын

I believe the Electrovair ll was a 1967, last year for the 4 door body style. I had a 66 Corv-8 that had the front end modified to look like the Electrovair (air intake below the front bumper). Chevy also made the Electrovair l, which was a 64 4-door. You don't see or hear much about that one. Both cars had lead-acid batteries, which made them heavy and have short driving range.

Nice!

fun fact stellantis offers EV Versions of their Commercial vehicles these days

13:12 you should also be noted that the German needs to find alternatives to petrol was drastically eliminated with unification and access to internationally traded oil on a scale that had previously been on either prohibitively expensive for strategically disadvantagous. there was a little point of supplying West Germany with excess petrol products to be smuggled into East Germany, when East Germany famously being short of everything including petrol (especially petrol)

I would love to have an electric Corvair. Not the one made in the 60's. I want a regular Corvair converted to a modern electric drivetrain. Actually, any classic car would be a good conversion. But I wouldn't ruin a good original car. It would have to be one that was already worn out and not worth much

Henry Ford’s wife, Clara, preferred her Electric Car

I recall an article in the British "What Car?" from 1988 or thereabouts that Audi made an electric car. They used a 100 Avant. There was a photograph showing the loadspace that was taken up with lots of batteries!

15:26 i can assure you the Citroen and Peugeots were not 'scrapped' they were a full production vehicle, AX, 106, Saxo, Berlingo, Partner. I have a 1998 Berlingo that I regularly drive. Ni-Cd batteries. I love it. They made this model up until 2005. I am in the UK, the van is a rare sight here but it was popular with the French postal service. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5yJrqyBdNq3k8o.html

Toyota America had an electric Rav 4

they are know as CARB not the "clean air agency"

11:00 Simcity music !!!!! Great choice !

Bruno Sacco designed a timeless masterpiece with the Mercedes 190 (W201).

We switched both ICE vehicles to Bev in 2022 and haven’t had any problems. Now over 100,000km, and we live in the great white North. Not sure we would have been successful if we hadn’t bought Tesla’s.

Hey Ed, Duitsland heeft meer eilanden dan Nederland!😊

Seat Toledo looks like a rebadged Passat, which in turn is a rebodied Mk3 Jetta/Bora, which in turn is a Golf with a trunk.

I see one of the remaining Golf 3 CityStromer here in my city from time to time :-)

I'm sure one or two german islands are actually free of fuel burning cars. One of them is Heligoland. Mainly because where do you want to drive there?

I almost choked when you said Reichsmark lol

5:11 They have Islands in the North Sea too 🤦‍♂️

@pawsnpistons

18 күн бұрын

How would a dutch know? They cant get there with those caravans.

@edmaster3147

13 күн бұрын

@@pawsnpistons bycicles. I have heard gossip about Dutch Islands in the North sea which you can walk over to.

Those wind turbines in the background of the Mercedes shots look minuscule by today's standards. Super interesting episode. Just imagine the German government had decided to continue the subsidies. Also flabberghasted at the forward-thinking Opel battery and drivetrain.

I love the Dutch accent, I don't think electric cars will catch on but I suppose there is a place for them

The music in the background at 11:04 is Re-Development from the Sim City 4 soundtrack.

Have a look at the Bizzarrin Kjara from the end of the 90's. Giotto Bizzarrini (yes, the 250 GTO and breadvan, Lambourghini v12 of the 350GT) gave his idea of the (near) hybrid future. Hybrids can be fun!

One of the MKIII Golf CityStromers is in Hatvan, Hungary

Too bad cars like the Chevy EV1 never made it to production (there were many units but most or all were destroyed by GM; I think some survived from those who refused to return theirs to GM). That would have revolutionized the EV industry as we know it today, and quite honestly, even for its time some 120 mile range wasn't bad. But I mean seriously, GM could have been where Tesla is today with cars, or perhaps we may be farther down the EV road (no pun intended) than we are today with regards to developments in EV vehicles.

Reichsmark? Really @ed? :D Deutsche Mark, the Reichs part was dropped with the introduction with the Deutsche Mark after the new currency was introduced after the second World War (Währungsreform). That's okay as the Netherlands used Tulips as currency until the Euro was introduced 😅😂😂😂

I applaud your pronunciation of German words.

Brilliant, but now say it again: RR Ü G E N and 10x environment friendly 😁😁

Somebody better call up Nikki of Transport Evolved

I miss the innovation that Mercedes-Benz experimented with before they merged with Chrysler. 😢

@TheAechBomb

13 күн бұрын

wait, mercedes is part of chrysler now? how many names does that company own, goddamn

Both the ford ranger and the s10 had electric fleet options for use in manufacturing campuses and large scale warehouses

Ducktales: Elvira „Grandma Duck“ Coot drives a Detroit Electric

Wind mills 30 years ago, but they unexpectedly became a "problem" now... 🤯

Ed Ed Ed!

Before the lithium-ion cell was invented, electric vehicles had no chance to compete with combustion engines. And even then there was a lot of engeneering work necessary to give the lithium-ion cell the robustness to operate in a car.

At least they tried to make smaller cars in the 90s. Smaller electric cars and smaller cars in general. Now everything is ridiculously oversized.

man i want a 190 electric

Not only well-written, generally, but more pointed praise for structuring this story this way. These stories. For structuring this argument in this way. It's the best sort of argument, the one that is evidently the assertion itself. Putting these stories on the timeline, in parallel; not using the term "conspiracy" even once. Just presenting the well-documented history of what the actual industry players were actually doing. Love it. Thanks. 👍👍👍

I imagine when Cascadia and San Andreas have large magnitude releases... the California CARB "problem" will be solved.

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