Lingotto: The Last Surviving 1920s Factory Rooftop Racetrack (Yes, There Were Others)
In 1923, the city of Turin unveiled a huge new car factory, with one very special feature: it had a high-speed circuit on the roof, complete with banked curves, and two 500m-long straights. But why would you put a racetrack on the roof of a factory? I travelled to northern Italy to see it for myself...
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Official page on the Pinacoteca Agnelli website - www.pinacoteca-agnelli.it/en/...
"Lingotto: Myths, Mechanisation and Automobiles" by John Cook - www.academia.edu/14362388/Lin...
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Historic Lingotto images by Carlo Maggio used under license from Alamy
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Fiat's original factory on Corso Dante - fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichi...
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They really should have some bicycles on the rooftop tho! That would be so fun
@williamhall667
Ай бұрын
just thinking that myself, it would make a brilliant velodrome.
@R4baDader
Ай бұрын
That would be a sick velodrome
@CoenFierst
Ай бұрын
folding bikes, scooters, segways, … anything with 1-2 wheels not needing a combustion engine, really. In line with the times and future.
@juhonieminen4219
Ай бұрын
It would make a great Stunt Jump location in GTA Turin.
@DeFausti
Ай бұрын
@@CoenFierst Make it like the Nordschleife, pay a fee to drive and only overtake from the left
Don't think we missed your cheeky low level shots of you walking by the "TIM Retail" signs. 😊
@pras12100
Ай бұрын
For anyone who did miss it you will find this at 07:52
@ralphhowes
Ай бұрын
@@pras12100 TY!
@0causton0
Ай бұрын
I came here to comment this but knew someone would have beaten me to it!
@zork999
Ай бұрын
@@pras12100 Ahh, you missed the one at 1:20
@douglasboyle6544
Ай бұрын
@@pras12100 Also at 1:19
The Tim Traveling Jukebox for this ep. 0:10 Jessica by the Allman Brothers Band (BBC Top Gear used the track as its theme tune) 1:46 Left Bank Two by The Noveltones (BBC Vision On Theme) 2:11 The Chain by Fleetwood Mac. (BBC used it at the theme tune for its F1 coverage) 3:32 Cars by Gary Numan 5:00 Movin On Up by M-People 5:45 You Raise Me Up by Secret Garden (also covered by Josh Groban and Westlife) 6:00 Dont Stand So Close to Me by The Police 6:20 Good Vibrations by The Beach Boys 7:14 It's Caper Time (Self Preservation Society) by Quincy Jones (main theme to the Italian Job which featured the building in its car chase) 8:04 Movin On Up by M-People (again) 8:22 The Carnival by Gordon Giltrap (ITV Wish You Were Here theme) I think thats everything
@cpcallen
Ай бұрын
What's the tune at 6:37? That's not still Good Vibrations AFAICT.
@CussCuss16
Ай бұрын
@@cpcallen I recognize it but can't put my finger on it, I think its something that a BBC show, 5th gear or something uses in between segments.
@Vtarngpb
Ай бұрын
Tim missed an opportunity to rewrite the lyrics for The Flower Pot Men again though 😂😭
@matthewbrotman2907
Ай бұрын
Tim also used “The Chain” in his visit to the old F1 track at Reims.
@KieronQuinn
Ай бұрын
@@CussCuss16 It's the Location, Location, Location (Channel 4 property show) theme.
3:17 - The whole clock spins! Awesome!
@MrHack4never
Ай бұрын
I checked the website, the bouys movements are realtime repetitions of another bouys movements, which might be interesting to other technical nerds
@Stevie-J
Ай бұрын
@@MrHack4never Ok that's really cool too. Kinetic art in the factory that made motors, gears, and mobile machines.. I love it so much
@althejazzman
Ай бұрын
Yeah weird, so that the time is always pointing up?
@PianoKwanMan
Ай бұрын
It would make a cool wall clock in my house
@THESLlCK
11 күн бұрын
@@althejazzman lol no. So they can record laptimes. Each rotation is one minute. each tick is one second.
The Jessica cover is just perfect for a racetrack video!
@freddyspanish2697
Ай бұрын
And the song at about 3:30 is Cars by Gary Numan, a very fun idea!
@FindecanorNotGmail
Ай бұрын
2:12 Fleetwood Mac: The Chain. Used as intro to BBC's _Formula_ _One_ TV show 1978-1996 and 2009-2015, and therefore much associated with racing in the UK. The video game "Formula One Grand Prix" (1992) copied it for its intro but changed the notes just enough to avoid licensing issues ...
@Craftlngo
Ай бұрын
@@FindecanorNotGmail and not to forget "Movin' all up" starting around 05:00
@mhoop1
Ай бұрын
I WONDER, IS THAT TIM'S ARRANGEMENT FOR JESSICA?
@robburgess4556
Ай бұрын
@@mhoop1 I believe he plays all, or at least most, of the music in his videos.
"It's floors were it's flaws... well, you know what I mean", is a peak Tim Traveller line.
okay, 'you raise me up' playing when you talk about the lifts is genius
I rarely comment on videos, but I went to Turin 2 years ago, partly to experience parts of The Italian Job, after my siblings and I watched it so many times with my Dad when we were young and I agree, it is a truly beautiful place, and so many other things to do! Thank you Italy 🇮🇹 ❤️
I saw that "of course, we're not here to see any of that" coming, but it was still extremely satisfying! In my opinion, it's the most epic one you have ever done!
“Of course, we’re not here to see any of that” are some of my favorite words on the internet! Always followed by something completely unexpected and immensely interesting.
@billysgeo
4 күн бұрын
Is that like his "catchphrase" or something?
I have to say your music choices on this video have been great. Top gear and the chain, perfect for the topic.
@gododoof
Ай бұрын
Italian Job theme too
@dogg0nit32
Ай бұрын
Agreed! Who made the MIDI ones in the first couple minutes?
@MrGreatplum
Ай бұрын
@@dogg0nit32- Tim does all his own music!
@zorktxandnand3774
Ай бұрын
Also Cars, Gery Newman. , the "top gear music is " is Jesica by the Allman brothers band.
@ralphhowes
Ай бұрын
@@zorktxandnand3774 Gary Numan. Hate to correct but I saw Gary perform back in the late seventies, can't let it slide!
Your Easter egg songs are fun! Love the Top Gear intro.
@MysteriousFigure
Ай бұрын
And the chain as well, classic f1 intro!
@TrippingtheBrightFantastic
Ай бұрын
Cars - Gary Numan 3:30
@bewilderbeestie
Ай бұрын
Don't forget _Good Vibrations_ when talking about the structural issues.
@TalesOfWar
Ай бұрын
Aka Jessica by the Allman Brothers Band.
@ralphhowes
Ай бұрын
@@bewilderbeestie Nice catch
Love these wacky places you go to Tim in Europe 👏 🇪🇺
8:00 Impressed to learn that the roof garden was apparently designed *by* 40,000 plants! They should feel at home then.
@TheTimTraveller
Ай бұрын
Haha I thought the same thing 😀
@dlevi67
Ай бұрын
The rest of the English is no better. Then again, they couldn't even get the Italian right, where the 'Balilla' (a small Fiat from the 1930s) became 'Barilla'. Bah, humbug.
@MrHack4never
Ай бұрын
If it was a big wild garden, you could technically say that
@gteixeira
Ай бұрын
Aha! The KZread Research Paradox in practice!
@gteixeira
Ай бұрын
@@TheTimTraveller It seems that your strategy of publishing a deliberately wrong information in order to get a comment with the truth has worked lol.
Even though it's not as high speed, I am glad that the new Hyundai Singapore factory that uses mostly robots to assemble Ioniq EV's in the city (35,000/car per year output using 110 workers) has a 6th floor test track keeping the tradition of these factories very much alive... There they allow users to watch their car being assembled and then you can take it for a test drive on the roof. Not a bad business model I hope more automakers revive... I'd love to see similar facilities in NYC, London, Los Angeles, etc. The re-regionalization of auto assembly using local labor and robots... Lots of robots!
@TheTimTraveller
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the update, I didn't know about that one, that's really cool! Just opened a few months ago apparently. I wonder how much a ticket to Singapore costs...
@zeroyuki92
Ай бұрын
@@TheTimTravellersounds like a perfect material for a sequel video
@andreasu.3546
Ай бұрын
Nothing like getting the opportunity to crash your new car before it was even delivered.
@LeonardTavast
Ай бұрын
@@TheTimTraveller You should ask Noel Philips to do a collab with odd places to see in Singapore. He's currently doing it in Australia.
@johnladuke6475
Ай бұрын
@@andreasu.3546 "This one seems to have crashed, I don't want to buy it anymore." lol
My mother actually got to drive a car around this circuit while holidaying in Italy in the 1970's.
@dlevi67
Ай бұрын
Sorry, mate - your mum did no such thing; it was never open to the public, much less when it was still working as a factory.
@12many4you
Ай бұрын
-The 70s -Italian men working there. -@sirrliv's mom Oh, i bet his someone got a ride
@eddjordan2399
Ай бұрын
@@dlevi67how do you know that? you have no idea who his mum was why she was there she could have been a test driver for all you know.
@dlevi67
Ай бұрын
@@eddjordan2399 "while holidaying in Italy"
@laurencefraser
Ай бұрын
@@dlevi67 I mean, there's still theoretically a very narrow slice of posibilities where it's actually true (related to someone who was there for less holiday-related reasons that involved the factory, or the like)... but you're right that it certainly doesn't seem very likely.
My favourite Italian city, much underrated. I have been to the track several times ... and the gallery.
5:20 Edoardo Persico - was an Italian architecture and art critic, designer and essayist. In 1926 he moved to Turin, where he supported himself by working as a mechanic assembler for Fiat.
Now THAT is what is called "Vertical Integration"
Years ago i stayed in the hotel in the Lingotto building and then you could get to the roof circuit from the hotel. They advertised it as a running track. Of course we did a lap (walking, not running).
@andycooke6231
Ай бұрын
The hotel is still there, we stayed there in September 2023 as part of a Great Rail Journeys holiday.
Very cool to see Lingotto again, I stayed at the NH Hotel in 2016 and the first thing we did was visit the Angnelli museum and track, walked the entire circuit, and saw helicopters landing on the helipad used for Fiat execs. The enter factory is a fantastic architectural conversion by Renzo Piano and is worth a visit just to see this famous building.
7:15 I was waiting for a tune that would sound like "Self Preservation Society"!
@chrisward63
Ай бұрын
Was looking for an Italian Job reference!
@zork999
Ай бұрын
@@chrisward63 There are two
This has got to be one of my favourite videos from you Tim. The piano cover of The Chain, hilarious puns, flying-crashing-cars animation, and ability with languages and pronunciation is just amazing. Another thing to add to my motorsport bucket list (along with the Reims-Goeux circuit).
If you're still in Turin, Tim, I can recommend going to the cinema museum there. A truly incredible place in a magnificent building 😊😊🐢
How daring of you to walk trough the red light! Loved to video. :)
Haha, Gary Numan Cars well chosen music track. Great work, Tim!
I’ve missed these brilliant films - we just wait for those features of “and of course we haven’t come to see any of that…”, the advice for disabled visitors and the piano covers. Superb editing, research, presentation and humour, all in all, fantastic! Keep up the great work.
Torino is a beautiful city, the city centre is very nice and relatively well kept. It was the first capital of Italy after unification and was the capital of the Savoy dominions for centuries, so lots of art and history is there. And then food. Being the capital of my region (Piemonte) I can tell you can eat very well and with more reasonable prices than Milano (my adoptive city later on). Go on with exploring mate, enjoying your channel so much! Cheers!
@evryhndlestakn
21 күн бұрын
Sounds very nice. You'd think they would hold a winter Olympics there sometime.🙄🤭😁✌️
@Teo95sero
21 күн бұрын
@@evryhndlestakn the Olympics were instrumental in making the city the small jewel it is now. The hardware was there (art and history and architecture) but almost non existent promotion and maintenance (heritage of an industrial past and culture)
@evryhndlestakn
21 күн бұрын
@@Teo95sero of course as soon as I saw you had written Torino I immediately flashed to when the city hosted the winter Olympics & was only being cheeky. What year was it they hosted & have they hosted it more than once?
@Teo95sero
21 күн бұрын
@@evryhndlestakn it was 2006, never hosted any other huge event like that ever since.
@evryhndlestakn
21 күн бұрын
@@Teo95sero I think nowadays big events like that risk bankrupting all but the largest cities. Nice to have such a historically significant & attractive city in your life. All the best😁✌️
Just a test track for fiat that was used in the Italian job (1969)
@FindecanorNotGmail
Ай бұрын
Italian job: Hence the music at 7:14
Secretly Tim went to the shopping center because of the Tim shop. The center just happened to have a race track on top
You must have been there about the same time as me! I'm already missing the place. Fun fact. Even though there is a Fiat 500 cafe on the roof, the 500 was never made there...
That Gary Numan cover was so smooth I almost didn't even notice it.
7:52 Certainly satisfying for Tim to see the sign for TIM Retail. Also let's appreciate the custom background music with various themes suiting the topic.
0:33 They made some rooftop circuits ontop of some of the factories in Detroit too*
I'm pleased the lads from The Italian Job got a mention - If you're from the UK, this is likely the only reason you know of Turino at all.
@derekheeps1244
29 күн бұрын
Hardly : it is very well known as an automotive design and manufacturing centre , not just for FIAT .
@ZGryphon
13 күн бұрын
Also, the Olympic Winter Games were held there in 2006. Granted, they're not as big as the summer event, but I suspect a fair few people noticed that, all the same.
love how when he was introducing the racetrack he used the old f1 intro, great and amazing detail
Jessica, The Chain, absolute great music as always
It's so nice to see that the quality of your videos remains as high as when I first discovered this channel years ago! The stories are fascinating, and the editing is the cherry on top 😄
5:44 You Raise Me Up 6:08 Don't Stand So Close To Me Two of the best and most subtle musical puns I've ever heard abd they're from someone I didn't expect to make musical puns! 😂👍
I still cannot praise enough the musical choices Tim makes in his videos. I absolutely love "Cars"!
I arrived in Torino the day of your upload to celebrate my 50th birthday and dragged my wife to Lingotto. Mind blowing coincidence; wish I’d checked KZread on the day. I’m a Lancia & Fiat car fan and an architect so Lingotto is a must see for me. The wife is now a Lingotto fan and also now a Tim fan too 😊
@TheTimTraveller
28 күн бұрын
Happy (belated) 50th!
Mate i have been missing your videos! glad to see you are back!
Never thought that I would end up seeing one of your videos about my hometown, I’m so glad you liked it 🤩 love your work!
A flawless presentation of too many floors. And I didn’t know that’s why FIAT got its name.
@apveening
Ай бұрын
That all capitals name is a pretty serious hint at an acronym, from there it is a pretty easy search.
@derekheeps1244
29 күн бұрын
@@apveening it is pretty well known , not just among car enthusiasts
@apveening
29 күн бұрын
@@derekheeps1244 We both know that.
@davidjones332
27 күн бұрын
They did once have a competitor called FART. Can't imagine why that never caught on........?
Fantastic video sir, noticed a shop called "Tim" early in the video, did you buy anything from it?
@dlevi67
Ай бұрын
It's a mobile phone shop, so probably not.
@teecefamilykent
Ай бұрын
Ahhh ok.
Fantastic video sir, noticed a shop called \
There was actually a fourth rooftop test track that perhaps you missed, because it doesn't seem to have lasted very long. This one was at the main plant of the Studebaker Corporation in South Bend, Indiana, USA. Not much information on it, but it appeared to be made of wood planks and was wide enough for the small, slow cars made in the early 20th Century. Studebaker later constructed the first automotive proving ground in 1926, not far from South Bend. While Studebaker itself is gone, the proving ground was sold to Bendix Corporation, then Bosch Automotive, and finally to Navistar, which is the successor to International Harvester's truck business and still uses the test track. The most striking thing about the facility was built in 1938, when Studebaker planted some 8,000 pine trees to spell out the company's name. The tree sign and the Studebaker Clubhouse (originally an office building for test engineers) are on the National Register of Historic Places.
These types of places are why I love this channel so much! I doubt I would have ever found out this place exists were it not for seeing it here. It’s a place I’d absolutely love to visit - not a big tourist draw, but historically significant and utterly fascinating. Excellent video, as always!
Thanks Tim for bringing back "We're not here to see any of THAT!" This IS a great video. Informative and fun! Really enjoyed it.
Holy I live in Nessonvaux, Belgium. Never figured you'd mention this forgotten place, although if there was one YT channel where it could be mentioned it would be this one.
Great video, I attended the Turin Auto Show in the Lingotto building almost exactly 30 years ago in April 1994.
OMG you are in my hometown! Wish I could meet you!
@edoardobordin9982
Ай бұрын
Same for me, I'd have liked to tell him some stories about the damage left by fiat in this city and italy tho
I remember seeing pictures of this during architecture studies in the '70s. Brilliant idea.
Thanks, Tim and thanks to Pinacoteca Agnelli.
In Belgium, there is still a similar track on the roof of the defunct Imperia car plant. That test track was built in 1928 and is 1km long. Currently the site is being reformed into housing but the track will be integrated into it.
Missed you Tim! Glad you're back!
That's one of the most incredible mad-ladish pieces of engineering I've ever heard of.
I studied abroad in Torino many years ago, and our school was essentially across the street. Got to see it every day on the bus ride in. Unfortunately, the roof wasn't open then, so I never got the chance to see it. Got a great dose of nostalgia from your video!
I love your videos. You discover the most bizarre, yet interesting features in life, features which are hard to find in mainstream media. Love your presentation style. If there was a black pebble on the ground in a wood on a dark night, i am sure you can make that interesting to watch.
Great video. Loved the renditions of The Chain and Cars. I really appreciate the hard work you've put in to become a musician, video maker, producer and performer. I look forward to each new video you make and I'm never disappointed. Congratulations on 333K subscribers, well deserved.
Genius as always. Love Numan's 'Cars 'being played over the car factory description.
Self-preservation society!
Another cracking video Tim. 👍My wife and I are both petrol heads and we finally got to visit the Fiat rooftop track in June last year, and it did not disappoint.
This is just such great feel good content. Did I know Lingotto before? Yes. But listening to Tim muse about it is always worth it.
Brilliant storie Tim. Thank You. 👏
To me, the factory building is a work of art. I love the fact that it’s coming up to 100 years old and still has a purpose and use to the community. Is the ultimate and recycling.
I was JUST thinking this morning that I've been missing Your videos!
Suitable backing music underneath each topic... loving it
As usual, excellent video. I visited in 2017. At that time, it was unclear how to get to the roof. The museum was much smaller, and the roof was still pretty vacant. I wandered the mall looking for (what I assumed would be) obvious signs to the roof and found none. Finally, after ordering "nachos" at the food court, I asked directions and was told it required a visit to the museum. It is one of those buildings which from whenever I first saw a photo of it, I said, I need to go there someday! Thanks again for all your excellent work.
@giovannirubino8274
Ай бұрын
I also went there in 2017 and yes, get up there was quite a task. And when we finally managed to get there the building security was so surprised of seeing people that they started to run after us. What a memory!
🎶”Let’s go, to Lingotto… where the cars go, up to driiiiiiive!”🎶
This is brilliant! I've seen pictures of Lingotto but never really thought my about why they put the test track on the roof.
In Clermont-Ferrand (hometown of Michelin), you've got some test ramps on factory roofs, used in the mid XXth century to test tires' grip. They are historical testimonies
What a fantastic building - thanks for showing us! (Also, some great tunes on this one - bet you had fun with the Chain!)
Your videos are always brilliant, Tim! Thanks for another entertaining episode, full of humour as usual.
i just love that it resembles the shape of the circus maximus :)
Great story - again! Absolutely stunning. And I really like the background music. Wonderful job!
nothing makes my day more than when i see a new Tim Traveller video has dropped.
This is probably the highest value of any tourist attraction I’ve ever been to. €2 to go up and walk the circuit, with a great view of that area of the city is a steal! Theres a decent amount to do as a tourist in Torino, but I would put a trip to Lingotto as probably at the top of the list. I stayed in the hotel because I was in town for a business trip with no idea of the significance before I arrived. I was very glad I did.
Good to see you are 1/3 of the way to your millionth subscriber, Tim. Good luck.
Great video! I'm an ex Fiat / Alfa Romeo employee and was taken to the roof of lingotto by them on a "busman's holiday" back in 2005, when I was lead to believe it wasn't open to the general public then. It certainly wasn't an art gallery or as pretty as it is now. The shopping centre was open then though, which in itself was a pretty cool place! On a side note, Fiat also have , or at least had, a secret test track in the suburbs of Turin for development testing. I won't say where. It's not pretty, or even state of the art, at least not back in 2005! But it did have all the fundamentals of a car breaking test track and was very interesting to visit during the same trip.👍🏼
Awesome video! The editing is stellar! 💚
Thank youTtim, you just rememberd me how youtube was when i liked it. Interesting, informative, lovely made Videos. Keep on going,
We once had to rebook a stay near Torino on short notice and the hotel inside Lingotto was quite a good offer. At that time, we did not know what it was before. And as my wife and I prefer to take stairs rather than elevators, we usually ask for lower levels in a hotel. We had no idea that “not higher than 2nd floor (for our US fellas 3rd)” really means in that building where you have a wall height of somewhere around 5 m/15 feet. It was quite an exercise! But it was really a unique experience we had.
Cool! Thanks for the pictures, Tim… 🚗💨🇮🇹
Used to stay in a hotel in the Lingotto factory when in Turin for work in 2004-6. Hotel guests could use it as a running track. I ran there many times. Loved it! I believe it was a Sofitel at the time. Looks like it’s an NH now. They wood give you a key to a staircase at hotel reception.
Your videos are feel good anyways, but everytime I see your intro and you giving a thumbs up on the Fähri in Basel where I grew up, it's a special kind of coziness for me
Would be fun to take a bike there and ride around the track.
Great video! I got to stay in the hotel when my orchestra played in Torino. There's a beautiful, small concert hall nearby.
That terrible floor/flaw pun is just the sort of thing that keeps me coming back ;) Keep up the good work.
Have there been any incidents of a car going off the side?
@svenjansen2134
2 күн бұрын
Must have.
Fantastically preserved
Thank you, Tom Scott 2 for introducing me to this.
Walked around it when I stayed in the NH hotel inside the building in 2017. Great views of the rest of Turin as well.
thanks a lot for this fascinating reel - You've added Turin to my bucket list 😀
Great vid. Perfect music choices 👏
I love your videos so much! Congrats
Glad to hear The Chain being used as part of the soundtrack
Sterling job on the music selection as always, love the “Tim” shop, perfect if you need to buy additional Tims. And good to know it’s accessible too.
Fine video with interesting and needful informations. Thank you!
This was very cool. Thank you!