I have suggested it before and I am going to say it again. The weights that drive the machine should be up high and behind you. That way it shows how much energy has been stored and is left in the machine as you play it. I would use a water filled tank as a counter weight. The big advantage is it could be as heavy as you need it but it would be very light for transportation. Hauling 500 LB of weights around will very quickly become a pain. Especial when you have to lift it up on to the stage because you do not have ramp access.

@lasskinn474

20 күн бұрын

should just go for the vfd(s). 200 watts is 200 watts it doesn't matter if it's stored in water or weights or springs or whatever but he can't output it with human power regardless for the duration of the gig.

@paulkienitz

19 күн бұрын

I endorse this. And you have the choice of hiding the water and making it look like a metal block, or playing it up with, say, rubber ducks.

@John_Weiss

19 күн бұрын

OMG, you too?!?! I've been suggesting a "Tower of Power" in comments for months now. And using a water-filled container as the weight is genius! Just fill the containers at any tap, then at the end of the concert, just empty them down any drain! You can actually make them pretty heavy, too.

@air8536

19 күн бұрын

​@@paulkienitz YES WE NEED THE RUBBER DUCKS!!!

@garfieldnate

19 күн бұрын

I like the flywheel as a centerpiece better, since the motion is more interesting. But I'm digging this a bit; glowing water in 2 tall acryllic tanks on either side of the flywheel, with rubber ducks or Wilsons or something floating on top. Could look really cool, and aesthetically there's a lot there for Martin to play with as well.

Not sure how safe this all is... giant flywheel in your back, narrow path infront with a bunch of tripping hazards... Yes I'm a German, if you couldnt tell xD

@MapedMod

20 күн бұрын

I am Polish but most importantly I work as EU-OSHA inspector and I can assure you this is not safe. Add all of the hardware, cables, different stages and he will be able to play only at his own festival. No one will take the responsibility for putting up a few tons machine just for this solo concert. Wintergatan is just not this big.

@rocket_hops

20 күн бұрын

you should see his latest renditions, hes still building it!

@s-t-f

20 күн бұрын

He needs a frame, like a steel cube with all the mechanics safely fixed to it.

@gregfraser4052

20 күн бұрын

@@MapedMod Yeah, with that amount of kinetic energy and moving parts contained in that machine, there's no chance any of this will ever go on a live stage in the way Martin is imagining it. I'm already seeing the plexiglass encasings and bright yellow danger marking all over that thing.

@grahamthomas9319

20 күн бұрын

I also think it will actually lose is aesthetic appeal as well because it will look like a solid disc while spinning. Better to have the fly wheel safely encased lower and just add extra giant slow moving gears for fun. That planetary gear on the old machine was fun to look at!

Imagine the giant flywheel was actually a giant Wilson

@brianj.841

20 күн бұрын

I agree. That would be so cool and appropriate.

@piokul

20 күн бұрын

You could use a normal steel, well balanced wheel and put a light, realistically painted foam Wilson on top. It doesn't play into the skeleton clock esthetic though.

@joaomarcelopinheiromagalha3355

19 күн бұрын

​@@piokulit also brings electronics, something that Martin already said it's a no no

@TlalocTemporal

19 күн бұрын

​@@joaomarcelopinheiromagalha3355-- What part of a foam decoration adds electronics?

@brianorca

19 күн бұрын

​​@@joaomarcelopinheiromagalha3355 they said "light" as in lightweight, not light-up. (It needs to not significantly change the balance of the flywheel.) Alternatively, it could be heavy, but would need some parts to be thicker to carry counterweight for the big gap of Wilson's mouth.

With that much energy in flywheels, you'll probably want to make sure you protect yourself from the mechanisms, especially if people are going to be walking around near them such as the marble lifts and the flywheels themselves.

@thorwaldjohanson2526

20 күн бұрын

it needs to be covered with plexi glass. Otherwise that's a final-destination moment waiting to happen. That thing can decapitate you.

@kerradeph

20 күн бұрын

@@thorwaldjohanson2526 Yeah, exactly what I was thinking when he was talking about stepping up onto the platform during the show. Guy fumbles the step and takes a head dive into a 100 pound spinning flywheel. Quick way to get some nasty injuries.

@henrikd.8818

20 күн бұрын

He knows this stuff. He will get it right if he wants to make it.

@TheAgamemnon911

20 күн бұрын

Torque limiters are a must. The Flywheels themselves can actually be moved back a meter and up a bit (read: outside falling body range) since they are acceptably sized now. Perspective and lighting can do the rest to uphold the illusion of standing inside the machine, even when there is a safety gap.

@Julia_and_the_City

20 күн бұрын

Yeah. Fortunately, by putting the flywheels and gears far in the back and opening the entrance to the Martin section to the front, the danger parts become easier to shield/avoid. The lift mechanism remains as a snag risk.

I love how he spent several build days making sure a flywheel is safe to be around… then tossed that all away to plan for a flywheel that could cut a person in half lol.

@xthexder0

18 күн бұрын

It will be the exact same amount of energy. The larger flywheel won't need to spin as fast to power the machine.

"Fooling around" is an important part of any design sequence

@TarEcthelion

20 күн бұрын

"Remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down" -Mythbusters

@thomasbecker9676

20 күн бұрын

@@TarEcthelion That's not how science works at all.

@MiikaKontio

19 күн бұрын

Yes maybe 5 years ago. Hes just fooling around endlessly

@thomasbecker9676

19 күн бұрын

@@MiikaKontio Yep, he's just grifting at this point.

With a big 1.5m diameter full of kinetic energy steel meat grinder rotating like crazy just feets behind Martin (and his fingers, hands and arms...) we gonna have to adress obvious safety issues !

@rc-fannl7364

20 күн бұрын

You mean to keep the fly wheel safe from Martin? ;-)

@vincentdesjardins1354

20 күн бұрын

@@rc-fannl7364 of course, poor flywheel

@Phriedah

20 күн бұрын

Metal cages? Plexi boxes?

@Ircam16

19 күн бұрын

Yeah plexi panes, what I was gonna suggest ! ​@@Phriedah

@MarynowaOxana

19 күн бұрын

.. wheal should be bigger :) if it is bigger you can far away in the back and put a fence and barriers around it to avoid accidents.

Love how he continued to feature his guitar playing like his mom asked him to.

Martin, while you are thinking about stage layout, somthing to consider; to design a machine which completly removes the possibility of floor marbles is extremely difficult (and you will spend months of hell trying to do it) so rather than having to employ several stage hands to slowly chase after floor marbels during the concert consider the idea of a wetroom shower, the floor is gradually sloped towards a 'drain' point so that all the water flows into the drain and you can have an open shower without watering your house. If you put the stage design with a slight bowl underneath the machine those (hopefully rare) marbles can slowly roll to a single point and be collected without worrying about the stage becoming a ball pit!

@FrothingFanboy

20 күн бұрын

Yes, the whole machine should be in a sloped pool.

Instead of pointing the "two sides" inward towards the center, they should point outward instead. This will allow a space in the center where the band can be together in the "heart" of the machine. I think this will make the stage feel much less cramped and allow options for the whole band to interact with the machine Also there could be a wall of mechanisms behind the whole band

Add an oversized governor as well since they look cool. and bigger isn't worse.

I'm starting to get it. What I loved about the first two machines was their compact thing-ness: an intricate machine that hints at but does not fully reveal its complexity. But it seems Martin is now thinking of something different and equally compelling - what if the machine were deconstructed, blown up, and you could walk around inside it looking at all the parts? If the goal is live performance, that definitely makes for a more compelling spectacle on stage.

@FrothingFanboy

20 күн бұрын

It feels like a half-measure of both concepts right now. If he's definitely going the spread-out route, as many mechanical components should be clearly visible as possible. Lots of long shafts and belts. One big gear isn't enough wow factor.

@Mietchannel

19 күн бұрын

Yeah im not a fan of this new design: it misses mystery, and looks more like a bunch of instruments spread out over a stage. The machine doesnt look cohesive. In the first 2 designs the machine feels like 1 thing and I really liked that.

@YAVcc

19 күн бұрын

@@Mietchannel To me this is becoming more that the Machine is just one more instrument in a band, not a machine that makes music on it's own with a single operator. Why have the machine play bass or drums if you're going to have a bassist and drummer? In my opinion it really diminishes the draw of the Machine.

Hannes is having hard time believing that Martin isn't just fooling around :P

@NOLAfugee

20 күн бұрын

We are all Hannes

"No, sir I didn't see you playing with your dolls again."

@frozenflame1723

20 күн бұрын

5:08 *cardboard martin has a stroke*

@FredrikLarssonPhoto

20 күн бұрын

Spaceballs :D

Plexiglass catwalk! That way you can walk on the river of marbles!

@pandolphe1669

20 күн бұрын

YES !

@creageous

20 күн бұрын

Yes, my first thought was to make it transparent. :)

@andersjjensen

19 күн бұрын

Just thick glass. Plexiglass scratches very easy, so it will look like shit half way though the tour. Thick glass is heavy and expensive though....

@luketurner314

19 күн бұрын

What about transparent aluminium (aka aluminium oxynitride)?

@DJMonk3y

19 күн бұрын

@@luketurner314 Hmm, I'm not sure if that would work. The only application I've seen is transporting whales.

You can build the large flywheel just as a lightweight prop to communicate with the audience. This way it is safer to be around, and can even have additional safety mechanisms to disengage in case someone trips into it.

@DemsW

20 күн бұрын

That's a bit lame though :(

@rantingrodent416

16 күн бұрын

@@DemsW Not as lame as watching someone die a gory death live on stage.

@DemsW

16 күн бұрын

@@rantingrodent416 That doesn't sound lame though

@constantinosschinas4503

15 күн бұрын

​@@DemsWlol lol

you should go to Eurovision with this

@user-ex6xc5ox3k

20 күн бұрын

Is your opinion of wintergatan really THAT low?

@Talaxianer

20 күн бұрын

Don't throw pearls before swine.

@bblz9171

20 күн бұрын

@@user-ex6xc5ox3k nonono, to win

@tbillington

20 күн бұрын

Eurovision 2056?

@NOLAfugee

20 күн бұрын

​@@user-ex6xc5ox3k More of the world needs to know about him.

A few months ago a small flywheel was in a metal cage for safety reasons and now it is huge and open and ready to crush bones and skulls. Way to go Martin, more cardboad.

@shiru8bit

20 күн бұрын

It is safe it it remains a cardboard flywheel. Or even a safer one, an imaginary flywheel.

@MapedMod

20 күн бұрын

I remember that small flywheel being sped up while aimed at the audience in the Mechanical Music Museum and I was holding my head in disbelief.

@aryst0krat

19 күн бұрын

A bigger one only has to weigh about the same as the small one, I don't think it'd be much more dangerous.

@brianorca

19 күн бұрын

@@aryst0krat the same mass at a larger radius will have more kinetic energy at the same rotation speed.

@aryst0krat

19 күн бұрын

@@brianorca yeah that's what I was trying to get at without thinking too hard about the math haha, basically bigger in one way means it can be smaller in others and still do the same job - i.e. store the same amount of energy

more martin playing with cardboard!

@frozenflame1723

20 күн бұрын

5:04 Best solo of all time

@nagualdesign

19 күн бұрын

Not just playing, pontificating! He's written a 3000-page PDF all about how and why he pontificates.

@douglascaskey7302

18 күн бұрын

Too bad Martin can't seem to play music.

@baumkuchen6543

18 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's getting weird...

I must say, this is much more interesting than everything being in one straight line. The angles definitely help.

Martin, some special high intensity, small spotlights aimed strategically onto the marble machines and return tracks will act like a mirrorball, so to speak, and create a lot of moving sparkles flashing toward the audience.

Make big flywheel look like wilson!

@brianorca

19 күн бұрын

That will require making some parts thicker than others, since Wilson is not a balanced silhouette. But it can be done.

@mickett

15 күн бұрын

@@brianorca everything for the magic thing

Be awesome if you could scoop up a handful of marbles live during the show and pour them back into the machine

@frozenflame1723

20 күн бұрын

Front row seats are just a splash zone of floor marbles :O

@Tuck-Shop

19 күн бұрын

Throws them into the crowd, Hilarity occurs

@luketurner314

19 күн бұрын

@@Tuck-Shop Performs a bit of slight of hand swapping the metal ones for bouncy or foam balls before throwing, thus reducing the chance of injury and damage. Could also pretend to grab from the machine but not really

As a professional Industrial Designer, I’m so happy to see you adopting prototyping and ideation techniques that take some of the precision out of the earlier stages of development that a lot of engineering ways of thinking will cage you in. We call it the Christmas tree of design process. Start at the log (the brief), exploration and refinement help narrow your focus (the zig zags of the tree getting smaller as you get closer to the top), and then the star on top is your final product!!

Don't forget to consider kg/cm³ loads for each of the venues on your world tour.

@thomasbecker9676

19 күн бұрын

There's no need. There won't be a world tour. There won't even be a marble machine.

@constantinosschinas4503

15 күн бұрын

​​​@@thomasbecker9676 How dare you. There will be a marble machine, right after his friend Elon populates Mars, which will be right after Martin flies around the Moon.

@thomasbecker9676

15 күн бұрын

@@constantinosschinas4503 Oh, right, how could I be so mistaken? :P

@constantinosschinas4503

15 күн бұрын

@@thomasbecker9676 I think you don't trust Elon enough. There are some seminars if you are interested.

You should paint the programming wheel and the flywheels so that the rotation is more obvious to the crowd. That and cool patterns moving would be quite awesome. You could also have lights shining through any gaps in the mechanism, casting moving patterns on the walls.

I think this whole process is really showing why there’s a design specialist working with an engineer for most product development, instead of one person trying to do all these roles.

Having the whole band flanked by marble machine could be a great look, especially if you can hand off power & controlling the machine between members. It could really help dispel the 'Martin & his amazing machine and also a band I guess' vibe.

Love how at 10:27 neither can keep a straight face at Martin's claim and they both just lose. it.

I want a song called, "The Marbles on the floor". It has to be! 😅

@danielmoses4205

20 күн бұрын

“Let the marbles hit the floor, let the marbles hit the floor, let the marbles hit the……”

@frozenflame1723

20 күн бұрын

On the tour, there's just a video montage; every instance marbles exploded on the floor throughout these years 🤣

If you have a light on the front of the big fly wheel to project a big shadow on the wall behind you that would been really cool to see the shadow spinning. Please upvote so he sees.

Ottmar Mergenthaler didn't get the Linotype perfect in the first go 'round either. Invented in 1886 and still being used today in some printshops. It's a marvel of watch-making know how and imagination to this day and doesn't have a single computer chip or piece of plastic on it. And fun to operate, I might add!

@thomasbecker9676

19 күн бұрын

Martin doesn't have a fraction of that skill or talent, though.

Given that the band will be senior citizens by the time this machine is actually tour-ready, Martin should be designing room for their chairs and walkers.

In the first wintergatan marble machine videos he got almost Half a million of views and the comments were all like «wow!» «love this» «amazing looking machine», but now he gets not even close to that and they’re all like «you should this» «you should that» «this isnt safe». Wintergatan is now a parody of itself.

@sararebecapalacios

18 күн бұрын

Hahaha, it's true.

@constantinosschinas4503

15 күн бұрын

This episode was not even a parody, it was a metaparody.

Have you tried swapping the stuff on the left to the right-hand side and the stuff on the right to the left-hand side? That way the 2 marble lifts point up towards the new super flywheel and form a sort of triangle shape. This should also open up the space in the front a bit.

@MinimumViablePicnic

20 күн бұрын

Yes I imagined the same I think, the steps would be "tivoli stairs" shape?

@danielhoughton6921

20 күн бұрын

This also has the benefit of putting the harpsichord on the left, and the drums on the right. Everything I know about musical marble machines tells me that's the right and proper way round...

Man, I love Hannes. It's so fun watching him and Martin having fun with the planning process. He's a great hype man too, and good at telling Martin what he needs to hear, as well.

Put the 2 sides on a curved rail and a U-Joint for power delivery, then swing them out to 30 and in to 45 degrees while they are playing as you walk toward the stage.

If you want a large decorative wheel behind you make it it out of light material like plywood so it's less of a danger, there's no reason you can't have the actual flywheel in a safer more secure position and just have decorations powered off it.

This is perfect content. Music - engineering - art - humor and genuine wholesome friendship, I love this so much

Not sure it would look best but try putting the whole band in the middle, it would give you more space to move around and i fell like it would look less cramped

@deisum

20 күн бұрын

Also help avoid the whole "Martin & his amazing machine plus also band I guess' vibe.

Damn, I did not expect the dropoff in patrons from 10k to 500, that's insane. I get that many might have been turned off by the idea when Martin killed Marble Machine X, but a 95% drop off? That I did not expect. Thanks to all previous backers and an even bigger one to the people who stuck with it. It's thanks to you that I've been able to enjoy this journey since 2016.

@isoscelestriangle

19 күн бұрын

Didn't he start a new Patreon from scratch after the MMX?

@larsbecker7994

19 күн бұрын

At some point he said he had enough money and felt guilty when starting over with the machine. He then cancelled the patreon if I remember correctly

@JuicyBenji

19 күн бұрын

@@isoscelestriangle could be, I’ve not followed the patreon at all 😁

@thomasbecker9676

19 күн бұрын

Perhaps it's because people have finally clued into the grift.

@moarjank

18 күн бұрын

Thomas you're not being constructive with these comments.

At 11:07 , what a nice shot of the marble machine X. Planetary gears are so visually pleasing.

Love the flywheel. Run the numbers on one twice as big. Also, you were absolutely playing.. and it's one of the best things I've seen in months. Playing means you're having fun. If you're having fun, other people will also have fun. That's what this project is all about.

This process, your chemistry with Johannes, the adorable miniature, the rockin' guitar solo. This was a ton of fun to watch! So happy to be supporting you.

I like this step away from last year's embracement of Elon Musk's philosophy of "Your design requirements are dumb, so make them less dumb," I love that you are embracing that this feat of engineering is also about creative expression and while a design requirement might be dumb, the purpose of the machine is to be aesthetically pleasing, rather than just performing a function.

It's great seeing you enjoy the early design process. I feel like you're recapturing the joy of the first machine in these models.

used to have a marble machine "I believe" poster in my room but I start to believe less and less about seeing it live one day.. Please Martin, make it happen

I love this energy so much! Sure there's safety concerns that will have to be addressed, and new engineering problems to solve but honestly, the magic is the most important thing and no amount of good engineering can produce something magical without the inspiration of an artist.

It's good to see you coming back to the 'art' side of things, and having fun again. The technical aspects are important, but this has always been an art project. You kind of forgot that for a while, and it's good to see it coming back.

This video reminded me of Spaceballs, the 1987 movie. A scene where Dark Helmet plays with dolls and gets cought by his second in command...

I see the artist finally taking precedence over the engineer, FINALLY LET'S DREAM

I don't think the big flashy flywheel should actually be used to store energy. Keep that part down below where it can be surrounded by safety barriers. It might seem a bit dishonest to have a purely aesthetic wheel behind you, but it's the only way to do it safely.

@foldionepapyrus3441

19 күн бұрын

Not the only way, but certainly the easiest way to make it safe. And IMO more importantly the best way to make it transportable and easy to reassemble while also being safe - a giant flywheel, strong enough legs for it, feet that spread the load enough it won't overload a venues floor, and all the registration and retaining mechanism to allow the real heavy flywheel to be mounted so high, and then some guard to protect from accidents is substantially harder than just putting the real flywheel horizontal under the stage section of the machine.

@br52685

14 күн бұрын

@@foldionepapyrus3441Given that Martin has zero concept of anything you just mentioned, what’s your prediction of an actual “world tour” occurring?

@foldionepapyrus3441

14 күн бұрын

@@br52685 Martin has a great community of engineer types he occasionally listens to, and most of the points I mentioned have been mentioned before. So I'd say it will happen eventually as long as Martin doesn't burn himself out first.

Hi Martin! I've been thinking, what if you add an unexpected twist to your decor with fluorescent marbles? Picture this: they're concealed from view, only to be revealed under a black light. So, during a special song, we could switch off the regular lights, activate the black light, and voilà! A stunning, glowing surprise that will surely captivate everyone.

"It's been a deliberate design process" "XD"

I really love seeing just having fun and letting the creative juices flow, letting the machine do what the machine wants

Those flywheels in the back should be very safe. You probably need an emergency break, encapsulate(like having glass walls around it or something) the flywheel so that nobody gets hurt by accidentally getting close to the flywheel, etc...

It's is good that you are planning a world tour, because with this much energy in the flywheel and so little mechanical safety, you won't be allowed to play anywhere in europe edit: also you should think about flammability and fire safety, because as a scenic piece (which this is, it's not really an instrument anymore), it has to be hard to ignite, self extinglishing and flame retardent

@fkknsikk

20 күн бұрын

They won't allow this in the U.S. either.

Creations like these are treasures for ever. Hope to see it in my life time

I love that you're acting by following a plan that points to great success. I hope everything goes fantastic in the future so we can all enjoy the collective work that y'all have done.

That is an interesting mock-up of the intended layout. Great concepts on display here, if you pull this off, it will be insanely cool.

This channel is moving from engineering to madness. What about form form from function? What about modular design? What about intensive module testing? What about top level design based on function? I'll keep on watching, but I gave up expecting a real, working product.

Consider 1. What will you put on the big screen? How will the camera booms help the audience interact with the machine? 2. Should you put the band on a different stage? Lower? Out on a walkway? Above the machine? 3. In your original video, you had the idea of a black marble that you follow through the machine…. How to have the audience experience the machine? Could you have the machine rotate? I don’t think the cardboard gets to the bottom of some of these questions, you need a cyclic design process, prototype, build, evaluate, prototype. In my experience you can over-plan a project, projects fail most often because of tight monolithic integration. Loose coupling is really what you need my friend. You will never predict and plan all the problems with a marble machine on the road unless you GO ON THE ROAD! (Albeit with a smaller machine). Different stages will have different issues, so you need a system that’s flexible. I think you need a marble recycler that can hook up a lot of different attachments, that way you can go on tour with just the xylophone, work out the bugs, etc. performing brings such joy! Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good!

One of the cool things about the old machines was their compactness + intricacy. You could walk around it and keep discovering new things. PLS don't lose that!

I was not convinced by the split marble machine (i loved the intricate, compact, first two machines) but you just convinced me with this simulation. The scene is beautiful ❤

I LOVE HOW THIS LOOKS!. I was always here for the engineering, now i NEED to see it live

@AurenGlytterkat

13 күн бұрын

Yesss 🎉 I’m about to add “see Wintergatan LIVE” to my bucket list ❤❤❤

I'm loving your energy in these videos Martin! So good to see you exploring freely with these prototype models.

I'm here for the steady descent into and through madness.

Just a bit dangerous. Imagine stepping on the runaway marbles, and falling in the giant flywheel. Instant chopped meat. But, actually really spectacular...

Thank you for bringing it back to the marbles, the art, the fun, and the machine. BTW, I love the huge flywheel, it reminds me of the large, slow-spinning fans for ventilation that were common in dark sci-fi.

I love that you figured out the need for a catwalk and how that impacts the marbles this early in the process. It warms my UX heart knowing you have a much more solid understanding and picture of what you'll eventually build. You will eventually have to do some compromises further down the road but this at least is one less obstacle for tomorrow and exactly what this type of prototyping is for. Keep it up!

"Decapitated by giant flywheel during music concert" will be a novel cause of death for the medical examiner's list.

I'm puzzled... I don't want to squish your enthusiasm however I think I remember you once reduced a design from more than ten thousand parts down to four thousand, on excessive complexity grounds. And that design didn't even make it through. I wonder about the number of parts and how long it's going to take for completion and especially testing. I'm puzzled, really.

@joecerone

19 күн бұрын

He hasn't got there again yet, basically. The idea is that he's at an even earlier stage in the design process right now. We'll just have to see if it works out.

@rbro3001

16 күн бұрын

At this point I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to build a marble machine. I think he's on an endless journey to create another rube goldberg contraption. There's freedom in not having to prove something. I know about this.

The problem with really big machines is the shipping. When you make everything bigger you have to pay more for shipping

Maybe, make a working scale version of the machine? You won't be able to make any music on it, but you can use small ball bearings as your scale, and 3DPrint/CNC a tabletop version of the marble machine that functions, not just paper. This way you can use all the cad you make without having to use significantly more material and time to troubleshoot issues as they arise. And as a bonus, once you get things working at small scale, you can sell kits as merch as the project progresses.

@frozenflame1723

20 күн бұрын

While I like the idea, the physics of how components interact would probably be much different at a small scale than at full scale :( Then again, that kit idea sound amazing! There's no telling how much extra engineering it would take for these MM-Minis to work, but I'd buy em even if they came as smaller modules for each instrument :)

A concert like that would absolutely be the most impressive to watch! Your cardboard approach is an amazing exercise, doing all these iterations in a 15min video exposing various design requirement that otherwise would take weeks to show with real prototyping or CADing

10:20 Most serious brainstorming session:

It sparks fear, fear of you losing an arm in the giant flywheel.

Yo Hannes is looking fit! Nice work man 🎉

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How very kind of you, thank you❤️❤️❤️ /Hannes

Yes! Lots of threads you have been pursuing feel to have come together. I love how the band was included.

This isn’t a machine designed to play music anymore. It’s just the stage set peace now not like the first two

The marbles should definitely go the other way, so the step/runaway looks like "tivoli stairs" (I could see them in my mind but had to google a lot to find the name). So the steps widen and the marbles flow round it in smooth curves. Maybe can the instruments be "flipped" to change the catch position for those notes to the outside? I LOVE how much fun you're having and you're energy xx

I don't think Martin will read this but I'll try to get the message accross: Maybe before (or after, depends of your perspective) should there be a very light slope so marble floors get out of the way. Stepping on a marble can be a huge hazard for a guy focused in something else. Just an angled plywood would be enough and can be used to place the machine correctly.

If that HUGE wheel doesn't end up looking like WILSON, I am not coming to your shows.

Please do not forget that there can be a balance between function and aesthetics. Many bands will use lasers, fire, smoke, ect... to set a tone or mood. There is absolutely no reason that you cannot add some elements that would elevate the aesthetics, while also showcasing the beauty of the core designs/functionality of the machine. For example, the large flywheel you mentioned, can it be incorporated without jeopardizing functionality? Or, would it be better as a set piece to complement the entire vision? While I fully agree that it's important to highlight the core elements, there's nothing wrong with a bit of showmanship to bring the vision to life.

Martin went from a young spritely man to a worn out grandad and back to a spritely youth again! woohoo xD

I know the stuff you were doing here was legit part of the design process, but I like that you took some time to be goofy as well, that's the best kind of video SuperVinlin

If you are using Bowden Cables from the programming wheel, you can have a different angle from instruments to programming wheel. It is the great part about modular design, it doesn't have to be linear. Just an option.. we believe in you!!

I'm so glad to see you and Hannes laughing and actually enjoying thd process.

I mean, doing serious work while having fun is the best thing tbh !

Seeing the model, I am thinking this machine might be considered OSHA violation. Hopefully you are going to put protective guards and lockouts on everything.

great to see you having fun creating something magical! 1,5m Flywheel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im so glad you are using cardboard and having fun with rapid iterations, versus building these massive machines that sometimes dont work out lol. Great job!

I think you are on the right track, you are designing a stage show after all so the machine needs to act as the set as well as a music maker. My problem with the whole thing is that you have designed a machine that effectively makes the band redundant. Perhaps you will have sections of the show when the machine is playing and sections where the band is playing and sections where both are contributing. If so then the band needs more space and prominence during the sections where it is just the band. Perhaps consider platforms behind and above the machine for when the band plays along with the machine. Different levels always work well, and the possibility for silhouettes of the band members as they play is also a plus. I say put the band first and design the machine around them and their needs.

Maybe think about putting the marble elevators on the outside. It would nicely frame the mashine. Love the video and I like you seeing having so much fun with this again.

I absolutely adore the giant flywheel idea (from an audience-member perspective). I'd just ask you to include safety into the designs. A giant, heavy, spinning wheel with open spokes providing energy to run the entire ensemble could catch the corner of your shirt and drag you along with it.

The danger of a large single flywheel is inertia. If the axle breaks or even gets a little off center, the oscillations would create a catastrophic failure that could send the flywheel spinning rapidly off stage.

The new colour grading is spot on Martin!

You are making Rock and Roll... ing marbles!

Funnels despite not being very efficient, are very satisfying and beautiful to look at. They are also a staple in all things Marbles related. I cant help but notice a "giant funnel" when i see that plate full of marbles ( 8:58 ). Doesnt it look cool a HUGE funnel

This has been a really fun video, I was dubious coming into it because I miss the prototyping/fabrication videos, but you've made a beautiful model that looks like it's going to translate into real life in a really wonderful way. Find the magic, and bring it forward, godspeed!