allowing FSR 3 frame gen to work with other upscaling methods is such a huge win for us RTX 20 and 30 series users out there

@clinten3131

2 ай бұрын

There is already a mod that does that, but maybe a native implementation is better

@ArathirCz

2 ай бұрын

@@clinten3131I played the entirety of Banishers and a bit of Alan Wake 2 with that mod and did not notice any issues with it on my RTX3090.

@FirstMomentsOf

2 ай бұрын

I just sold my RTX 3080 😢

@Kntl125

2 ай бұрын

what do u expect from software upscalling?! nvidia have a best upscaling from hardware named tensor cores.

@WirrWicht

2 ай бұрын

​@@Kntl125You realize that NVidia's hardware does similar computations than AMDs software solution? Specialized circuitry/processors are always faster than software on general purpose processors.

I'd like to imagine that last video made Amd realize they forgot something 🤣

@benjaminoechsli1941

2 ай бұрын

"Hey Greg, did you push "send" on that update?" "Ye- er..... now? 😅"

@Prashanth12344

2 ай бұрын

Lol literally days after HU tearing FSR a new one, part of me wants to think it's not a coincidence.

@brumby92

2 ай бұрын

Gotta feel bad for hardware unboxed.

@EmanuelHoogeveen

2 ай бұрын

Honestly, given how rushed this presentation looks ("temporary" instead of "temporal", grainy GIFs instead of proper videos), I think it's entirely possible that AMD were like "oh shit, we weren't going to announce this yet but we *have* been working on it, so let's push something out".

@ranjitmandal1612

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

Great to see updates coming from AMD, especially incremental ones that reduce the flickering / shimmering.

@rigoon290

2 ай бұрын

That's the only reason why I haven't bought an amd card so far

@marcelorauber8397

2 ай бұрын

They really need to improve the quality of the characters' hair in FSR. I hope it improves with the update

Just a reminder that XeSS was promised to be open source 2 years ago, but that promise hasnt been kept yet.

@auritro3903

Ай бұрын

At least they didn't lock it down behind arc graphics cards like DLSS

Huge win for gamers. We needed an update and more game support

@George-um2vc

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully the Avatar game gets an update with the frame gen component decoupled so we can use DLSS with FSR frame gen, unless they just add DLSS 3 of course, but to me FSR 3 is very good, however it is strange Avatar STILL does not have DLSS frame gen 🤔

@iitzfizz

2 ай бұрын

It's coming to more and more games which is great!

@Kofferr

2 ай бұрын

@@George-um2vc It's an AMD sponsored title and they often do not allow Nvidia tech to be put into the games. Probably because FSR Frame Gen is inferior to DLSS and they don't want to show it.

@elitepauper7400

2 ай бұрын

​@@Kofferr😂😂 homie what? In almost most scenarios amds frame gen boost fps way more. Even on nvidia hardware

@Kofferr

2 ай бұрын

@@elitepauper7400 It has WAY more artifacts than DLSS. Plus you're forced into using FSR upscaling so that makes the image even worse.

Been using that DLSSG to FSR3 mod that allows DLSS upscaling while injecting AMD's frame gen and it works/looks pretty good on my 2080. Good to see this is being allowed by official means.

@lilpain1997

2 ай бұрын

The mod is ok. I use it in Cyberpunk on a 3080 to take my 50 to 70fps higher but it's still got a lot of issues

@aaronriggs4430

2 ай бұрын

@@lilpain1997 If you werent aware, theres an anti-ghosting mod for cyberpunk FSR3 mod and it really cleans up the image, especially behind moving cars. 100fps 1440p pathtraced on a 3090 is liberating!

@H3LLGHA5T

2 ай бұрын

@@lilpain1997it's highly game dependent and I don't think it's working great in Cyberpunk.

@lilpain1997

2 ай бұрын

@@aaronriggs4430 it works but it's not perfect.

@lilpain1997

2 ай бұрын

@@H3LLGHA5T any game you move fast in has issues. Witcher 3 also has same issue. Cyberpunk has a mod that can help but it doesn't fix anything and it's a really hacky way of doing it according to the mod dev.

Holy the decoupling is best of both worlds for 30 series owner. Better upscaling from DLSS and fsr3 frame gen. Thats pretty damn sick

@iitzfizz

2 ай бұрын

For sure! I just sold my 3050 Ti laptop and now have 6750 XT but I was always mad that Nvidia was gatekeeping FSR for 40 series cards when it's probs more useful for 30 series owners

@ArathirCz

2 ай бұрын

I am glad there is finally an official support for that. Meanwhile you can use a mod DLSSG to FSR3 for games that support DLSS frame gen to still use DLSS for upscaling but FSR3 for frame gen on RTX 20 and 30 series.

@vigilant_1934

2 ай бұрын

@@iitzfizz Nvidia is gatekeeping frame generation not FSR since that's AMD's branding.

Decoupling Frame gen from upscaling is great news and I hope AMD delivers on their promise to upgrade FSR upscaling, but at least we'll be able to use frame gen with other upscalers if FSR keeps lagging behind. more options are always great.

@lulkLogan

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, honestly I'm kinda fine with FSR sucking now. UE5's TSR is pretty great, I'll just turn that on and use it with frame gen

@LiLBitsDK

2 ай бұрын

yeah framegen is just useless... upscaling can be decent if it doesn't look like cr@p

Hell yeah to FSR 3 frame gen decoupling!! RTX 3000 & 2000 series owners like myself, Rejoice!

@xanzxx

2 ай бұрын

Cheers

@Wilberbeest

2 ай бұрын

This times 1000

@aaronriggs4430

2 ай бұрын

indeed!!

@Ray-dl5mp

2 ай бұрын

Yes I’m very happy for you guys. Nvidia locked you out but you get back in the party. It’s awesome technology.

@potatoskins8155

2 ай бұрын

Shame Nvidia is the one whose sticking the fingers upto you though

FSR FG + DLSS Upscaling will be the best for RTX 3000 series users.

@GodKitty677

2 ай бұрын

Modders are already doing it. FSR FG is decent but not perfect.

[EDIT: AMD have fixed the typo on the blog post now. Original comment below...] Am I wrong to think that "temporary stability" was just a typo? They refer to the more usual phrase "temporal stability" in a graphic lower down in the announcement. It's too late, press has all quoted it now, but I have to believe it's a typo...

@massivechonk920

2 ай бұрын

Yeah it's def a screwup, should be temporal stability.

@TioRata

2 ай бұрын

They fixed the typo.

@danieltoth9742

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like AMD did an oopsie there, but journalists shouldn't just copy-paste things either, that just amplifies the damage. They should spot such an obvious mistake, and append a correction -- their duty is to spreading _the truth_ after all (well, supposedly).

@ThePurplePassage

2 ай бұрын

​@@danieltoth9742isn't the truth that AMD did indeed make a typo?

@danieltoth9742

2 ай бұрын

@@ThePurplePassage Well, yesn't. AMD did make a mistake, but if a journalist knows that a mistake was made (which they should, because at the bare minimum they must know what _they themselves_ are talking about, which is enough to notice such an obvious typo), they should put an asterisk, and say "we assume AMD meant to say 'temporal stability' instead". AMD isn't blameless, but a journalist's job isn't to spread the misinformation either. They should've noticed this.

4:10 Yes, the image has less shimmering, but also is much more blurrier.

If upscaling at the quality setting gives me +30% frame rates but looks like a dog's dinner, I'm never using it. If upscaling gives me +15% frame rates but looks (figuratively) pristine, I'm using it every time. AMD/Nvidia love to put the performance figures first, but I'd argue that image quality is the highest priority.

@brunogm

2 ай бұрын

@@kadupse FSR nativeAA or with increased VSR is also available

That ghosting reduction is pretty massive.

Hell yeah! FSR is finally moving it butt forward!

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

Part of me wants this to be influenced by PSSR or at least building up support for that switch over.

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

@retrowrath9374 Pretty much yeah. I'm just hopeful they'll be willing to share some of the improvements, at least in their own pc ports.

@Jake-0011

2 ай бұрын

​@DigitalJedi well there's the one that Insomniac made in Ratchet and Clank and it's absolutely horrible.

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

@@Jake-0011 That uses the existing FSR2.2 upscaler (3.0 is the same + frame gen). The developers likely didn't tune it well for the game, or the visuals of that game don't play nicely with whatever algorithm FSR2.2/3.0 uses.

AMD is just unbelievable. Showcasing new visual improvements by grainy gifs.

@akirajkr

2 ай бұрын

Grainy? Oh no, that's pretty accurate, actually. In 1080p FSR2 upscaling looked like that, has been for way too long. Also, that's zoomed. Of course it doesn't look the best, but the message is there.

@techsamurai11

2 ай бұрын

@@akirajkr effing AMD... this is almost an insult to Sony and Microsoft to fix it 3 years later after they are implementing their own solutions...

@Ray-dl5mp

2 ай бұрын

It’s an appreciation for the beautiful technology that is gifs. AMD gets it. : )

@ranjitmandal1612

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

@kishaloyb.7937

2 ай бұрын

​@@akirajkrno it isn't. Those examples provided are not accurate at all even when compared to FSR 2 1080p/Performance mode/540p internal resolution. Aside from the usual upscaling artifacts, there are lots of gif artifacts mixed into it which is baffling considering that they are showing off the improvements they've made to their own technology. At this point, AMD is not even axing their own foot. It's more like they are purposely stepping on the axe themselves every time.

It's not puzzling why frame generation and upscaling where coupled, they literally explained it: FG uses the optical flow analysis from the upscaler and so it needed that input. I gues the change now is that that optical flow analysis can run independently pf the upscaler, but I'd expect that to increase the resource consumption of the frame generation of course.

Keep up the great work man

using ancient gif for presenting anything around image quality is just silly. Every browser can do video playback these days so there is absolutely no excuse.

That’s really cool about frame gen. Especially if it works well with the other upscalers. I was down on the need for frame gen at first but now I see how beneficial it can be when you’re going for a visual in a game you can run but not super well but frame gen can put you over the top and make the gameplay look so much smoother. It’s awesome technology.

Nice to hear about these future improvements and not "fixes".

I'm looking forward to seeing you test this.

This is the update I've been waiting for. Recently switched from an Nvidia card to an AMD card and the only thing I miss is DLSS. FSR looks so poor in most games. I would just opt to lower settings rather than turning it on if I need higher FPS. I imagine even with this update, it still won't be quite as good as DLSS, but if it's close, that's good enough for me.

@opreax2145

2 ай бұрын

Buy 4k monitor and problem solved.

@rinsenpai135

2 ай бұрын

@@opreax2145 "buy a 250-300 USD monitor because you decided to save 1-10% (between 10-100 USD across all current gen GPUs) by getting an AMD GPU instead of the Nvidia equivalent (excluding 4060 Ti)." seems legit

@Thejacketof-huang

2 ай бұрын

LMAO AMBug users: all coping 💨👾

@williamscott6209

2 ай бұрын

@@Thejacketof-huang which bugs specifically are you referring to? Cause I haven't seen them.

@markojovanovic6928

2 ай бұрын

​@@rinsenpai135the cheapest 16gb nvidea gpu is rtx 4070ti super, except the 4060ti which is just too weak for 4k. Amd has 6800xt or 7800xt for almost half the price. I'd pay 20% more for DLSS personaly but simply no sub 500$ nvidea gpus with enough vram for the future

I like how they announce it for Q2 for developers wouldn't surprise me if they realesed a half finished version in the next couple of weeks

I would still like to see a video on building a rig to run modern games @1080p native ~60fps vs taking the same funds to build a rig for 1440p but then having to use upscaling (or running games at 30fps). Which of those 2 solutions delivers the overall best image quality and gameplay experience?

My 1650 after my 3060ti fried: "At last, we will have revenge."

Welcome to Hard Ron box! Gotta love dem subtitles 😂

Your guys videos are always so clean and well put together I've really come to prefer you guys over LTT and J2C. And I TRUST what you say. Thats a big one for me. Keep up the great work guys!

@LnDSuv

2 ай бұрын

HUB and GN are the endgame

@AlaskanFalcon

2 ай бұрын

@@LnDSuvGN is definitely good if you want extreme deep dives. the stuff that bores all but the most techy of us. Hardware Unboxed just has a way of packaging and delivering that I find very appealing and still gives me 99% of the info I needed.

I'm always excited for FSR updates so i can use it on my Nvidia Titan XP that can't do DLSS. Thankyou AMD, i'm glad you're not Nvidia. Also thankyou for Freesync. Also thankyou for Mantle which we use in Vulkan and Direct X 12 API.

Thank you so much for the amazingly accurate information you provide regarding newest upscaling technologies on the market! ☺👏👏🙏

Hello, can you give me advice is it better to buy lg 27gp850p-b or dell G2724D for 1440p monitor?? I saw you didn't review dell but it has similar specs... Helpp 😂

I've tested FSR3 FG on LAD Gaiden and Infinite Wealth with my crappy 1650 Max Q laptop, and it honestly blows me away. With that turned off, it barely runs stable at 30-40 fps, but when i turn it on boom 70-80 fps all day all night and in congested area as well. It's extremely rare that it dips below 60 fps, and the visual dowgrade is negligible. It's magic, lol

It's really funny that they talk about Temporal Stability in the upscaling in Ratchet and Clank, because in the game itself, Temporal Stability is also a thing, but it's something very different :P

This was very interesting. Cheers.

AMD showing improvements in freakin gifs in 2024, smh.

@notenjoying666

2 ай бұрын

Tbh still better than nvidia prerendered fake footage of fg they "recorded" for cyberpunk fg showcase.

@DavidJonSpem

2 ай бұрын

at least you can still see the difference

@chacharealsmooth941

2 ай бұрын

​@@notenjoying666​right? I remember it was fishy. I wonder what's the deal with that.

@andersjjensen

2 ай бұрын

Someone got a SERIOUS "talking to" about "managing expectations" after FSR3 was launched in a broken state in two games that sucked. They're making absolutely sure nobody can say "but it looked much better in AMD's presentation" and they're making sure it debuts in a game that has gotten generally favorable reviews and has a broad appeal. Life with AMD has always been "I like their products, but nobody can botch AMD's image like AMD". It has slowly gotten better under Dr. Su, but it's still far from perfect. Back in the day there used to be two rules that always applied: "The harder they hype, the harder they belly flop!" and "When AMD is quiet is when AMD is dangerous".

@NamTran-xc2ip

2 ай бұрын

​@@notenjoying666How is it better when FSR3 is literally worse?😂😂😂

Tim's outro always sounds mildly threatening. Like "you got away this time, you rascal! I'll catch you in the next one"

This comment section is about to go insane at the pronunciation of GIF... AND RIGHTLY SO BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE PRONOUNCED GIF (no matter what the creator of it says)

@nahoj.2569

2 ай бұрын

It should be pronounced Yiff

An additional positive aspect would be that with a significant improvement in FSR 3.1, these heated, sometimes unobjective comparisons of the software features would hopefully become less and this endless discussion would be reduced.

Jif... I can't even.

@nahoj.2569

2 ай бұрын

or the even more cursed "yiff"

4:10 did...did Tim just say JIF with a soft G?

@Osprey850

2 ай бұрын

That's how it's pronounced, according to its creator. I've been saying it that way for 30 years, myself.

@agent_galactic2856

2 ай бұрын

Peanut butter encoder

@Cooe.

2 ай бұрын

There's still plenty of idiots out there that somehow think "Graphics" (ala "Graphics Interchange Format") is pronounced "Jiraphics". 🤷 Sad to see Tim join that group though. Lol you'd really think he'd know how to pronounce "graphics" as someone running a PC gaming hardware channel.

@Cooe.

2 ай бұрын

​@@Osprey850The creator didn't/doesn't fucking understand how acronyms work. If he wanted it to be pronounced like that, he shouldn't have made it an acronym... But he did. So it doesn't matter WHAT the creator thinks as "Graphics" = hard G. No matter how much the creator wishes it was, "Graphics" is NOT pronounced "Jiraphics", end of story. 🤷

@Osprey850

2 ай бұрын

@@agent_galactic2856 As a matter of fact, the specification for the format includes the line "Choosy programmers choose GIF" in a nod to the JIF peanut butter slogan of the time, "Choosy moms choose JIF." 😀

I love this tech giving my old 2070 mobile and 6 core i7 cpu new life. Im excited to see the new improvements. Frame gen almost feels like when we went from hdd to ssd

I would really love to see better FSR as it really is tough to use in motion.

Completely off topic and you probably won't notice this, but will you be doing a performance settings review for Dragon's Dogma 2?

I find it extremely funny how Tom was just on moores law is dead podcast talking about the quality of FSR. And not too long after that, this was announced.

@Hardware Unboxed, can you please compare the latest amd driver 24.3.1 that is addressing the limitations of 7900 GRE, and do a compare? users were expecting 5-10% performance improvement, but many results show it doesnt pass 3.5% improvement

Actually, ai upscaling can be delivered by Intel in their cpus or gpus or it may help with quality of upscaled games or even more like movies from HD to 4k

It's good to see AMD still trying to push the needle. They have to if they want to compete. They need to deliver on 90% of the NVIDEA feature set, AND, charge less.

@nimrodery

2 ай бұрын

Not really, the NVidia "feature set" is mostly AI focussed, badly implemented software taking the place of hardware advancements. It will take a lot more than features to break the cycle of addiction.

@StingyGeek

2 ай бұрын

@@nimrodery much lower price or some other compelling feature -i. E. Lead for once?

@nimrodery

2 ай бұрын

@@StingyGeek No, NVidia will probably have to do it to themselves, continually forcing features on gamers that we didn't ask for at prices that seem stupid, keeping low and midrange cards underpowered with low memory to try and force an upgrade every single generation. It's no surprise the top GPUs are one or two generations old, but that doesn't matter to NVidia (GPU sales are a drop in the bucket). America's tech policies don't help, instead of breaking up monopolies they seem designed to make them as powerful as possible. I'll probably abandon PC gaming by the time anything changes.

@StingyGeek

2 ай бұрын

@@nimroderyWell, they are certainly on that track !

@arenzricodexd4409

2 ай бұрын

Charge less. And that's why AMD most often have no motivation to push their tech ASAP.

no uptimization guide for forbidden horrizon?

Can you cap the fps to the hz of the monitor??

Let me get this straight: In order to demonstrate barely noticeable differences in graphical quality someone thought it was a wonderful idea to use animated GIFs for the showcase, a heavily compressed, absurdly color-reduced, flickering low-frame "video" format for comparison. This has to be the most stupid use of a particular file format in digital history.

I'm a bit confused by your statements. I can already use frame gen without FSR upscaling, via AMD drivers. What am I missing?

why does it show 2 GIANTS IMAGES IN BOTH SIDE WHEN I LOOKING THE VIDEO , im viewing that video i dont wanna see those things unless im looking for it

It's funny because I completed Ratchet & Clank on my PC, not knowing that the game enabled FSR on its own and I never noticed it. It's just super strange to me

Helldivers needs FSR

@GodisGood941

2 ай бұрын

Is it laggy on pc?

@megamanx1291

2 ай бұрын

​@@GodisGood941No he has a potato

@TotallyCreativeNameBtw

2 ай бұрын

@@megamanx1291 No, helldivers 2 is legitimately underperforming, not nearly as bad as some of last year's games, but still underperforming(especially on amd cards), and while turning helldivers own version of upscaling *on* does give you more acceptable performance, it also looks really bad (even at *ultra quality* ), so much so that i would probably not even use it at 4k. I'd much rather have FSR, as that is already much better than whatever they implemented From what i can gather, they dont plan on implementing FSR nor DLSS tho (Or really optimizing the game more because ive looked at every patchnote, yet there is nothing besides making the game crash less) At the very least, the game doesnt stutter 99% of the time from what i saw in my 95 hours of gameplay

@exovitale

2 ай бұрын

​@@TotallyCreativeNameBtw that setting doesnt seems to be and upscaler. It just lowers your render resolution. By the way they phrased that setting made me think too that it was an upscaler. I play on a laptop with an rtx 3060 6gb graphics card on it and sometimes, even on lower settings, the VRAM limit tanks so hard that it is very unstable. I really want that they implement some type of upscaler because the visual sacrifices to make it playable are pretty big.

@Cptraktorn

2 ай бұрын

​@@megamanx1291I've got a 4090 and 13900k, Helldivers runs like garbage and desperately needs proper upscaling, be it fsr or dlss.

Have they neglected or just been working on it. I don’t look past these are incredibly difficult things to solve.

@aaronriggs4430

2 ай бұрын

And they did it all without AI, including FG, which Nvidia always maintained needed AI to work. I'd imagine the work on FSR is much more difficult given the hardware constraints, and they really are the peoples' hero for this stuff.

@WyattOShea

2 ай бұрын

Make no mistake if AMD could charge more for their gpus then they would lol they're not heroes. They're "better" than nvidia currently but they're not our friend either and we have to remember that. Btw my rig is all AMD so I'm not a fanboy either.@@aaronriggs4430

@NamTran-xc2ip

2 ай бұрын

​@@aaronriggs4430The only reason why it's widely available is because that's the only thing that goes in their favour. Intel which is basically a newborn in the GPU market already had a superior upscaler. Let's imagine a case where FSR is not the worse upscalers out of the 3, do you think they will be as open?

@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX

2 ай бұрын

@@NamTran-xc2ip Intel just like Nvidia, will keep their stuff proprietary as usual.

@darkfire3691

2 ай бұрын

@@aaronriggs4430 They are such heroes, that they have 10% market share lmao... pls

I noticed the use of both 'gif' pronunciations

Here's a question I have, what if the developer doesn't want to implement the frame generation part of FSR 3.1, and only wants to implement the upscaling aspect. Is it still considered FSR 3.1, or is it considered like FSR 2.3 something like that?

This look like a massive improvement over FSR 3.0, especially considering they were showing 1080p performance mode, which if you did that with FSR 3.0, it would look really bad as the internal resolution would be something like 500p lol, that also bolds well for higher resolutions and quality settings that it might be getting to the point that the differences from FSR and DLSS are far smaller for it to not matter. But we'll have to wait and see it in the wild.

Interesting, i can finally try frame gen.

Nice video. I was really worried that AMD was starting to fall seriously behind.

as soon as is open sourced, all the MODs will be updated

@brunogm

2 ай бұрын

And then just put a .ASI file in the game folder to update older FSR

Do XeSS for Ratchet & Clank! It's right there in the drop down menu and looks great

@davidfelix3851

2 ай бұрын

I get the highest frames at 7k resolution with xess look great and tasty like candy.

FSR 3.1 sounds like a win for all gamers. Since FSR is available on both PC and Consoles, we'll be able to get better looking games on all platforms.

Any improvements are welcome. I was surprised Xess looked better than FSR when I tried it.

Great news for handhelds!

if amd can improve FSR image stability, ghosting issues I may end up switching to team Red in next upgrade.

Still waiting for stable drivers especially for world of warcraft and hell divers 2, AMD actually just fixed RGB laser show bug in dying light 2 now in driver that came out yesterday 24.3.1

Can't wait to play games with the fsr 3.1 mod!

me a RTX 2060 super owner watching this video joy knowing my fsr fram gen will work with dlss, won't have to sacrifice image quality this is great news!

Even more important may be their new API that sounds like it will allow that the FSR version can be somehow upgraded. And also RDNA3 has AI acceleration and enough of it, so it can easily do it, but RDNA2 probably not, so they probably need some fallback pass (likely the current solution), like intel does for theirs.

They need to integrate frame generation with Ray tracing, both nVidia and AMD. In ray tracing you have the BVH of all objects even those out of screen or occluded. If you use that data you can generate better frames when there is disocclusion. It would work only for ray tracing, but still something. Another possible improvement for frame generation is using accumulated data from uspcaling to handle disocclusion for frame generation, but this likely requires machine learning. It would be something similar to what nVidia does in ray reconstruction, but applied to frame generation instead. Instead of better denoising, better generation of specific parts of the image.

So funny, watched your Moore's Law podcast and now this. I guess you nagged them enough :)

Kills me how you need some nonsense to make a $800+ GPU do what you expect it should.

I respect that you pronounce "gif" in both ways. Although it's actually pronounced "gif" and not "gif", enough people say "gif" to make it socially acceptable.

@cameltoeinspector6015

2 ай бұрын

lol

Will it support older amd gpus

Fsr should implement ai and advanced shader optimizations as a bare minimum, dual floating point as well as other advances in their more modern architectures with the current methods as a fallback

@NadeemAhmed-nv2br

2 ай бұрын

Mark papermaster pretty much confirmed the AI part a week ago across all their current latest platforms, he said something to the effect that they got they hardware out and 2024 is mass deployment for AI upscaling. So fsr 3.1 is probably a preview of the much better upscalers launching this year

Now when will games support fsr 3?

this was worse case scenario with 1080P performance mode (540p)

I love how even AMD admits that their FSR 2.0 was just a blurry mess.

Has RSR gotten any better?

Wouldn't Avatar be better to use over Aveum?

Honestly. I think this can be really good. Here at HU you're focusing on comparing most noticeable aspects of upscaling - which are stability artifacts. But DLSS gets that stability while loosing a lot of detail even if the motion is minor. I don't think that NV can actually improve this since AI upscaling is much less customizable. So maybe in future if AMD keeps improving their techniques it will actually be better than DLSS.

HUB bullied those frauds into improving FSR im crying 😭😭

I guess what I play (GW2, WoW and Elder Scrolls) are way easier to run than the various games you test. My previous GPU, a 1080Ti now in my grandkids machine, ran GW2 on my 4K TV with a few settings turned down. My current GPU, a 7900XTX, has them all maxed. No RT possible, but at 4K, its lack is not noticed. I play games to have fun with eye candy a minor consideration. I'm having a MAJOR disconnect over "needing" upscaling at 1080P. Is your system a burnt potato and/or does the game need the power of 2 or 3 4090s to run properly?

Thank jeebus! I hadn't realized it wasn't since 2022 that they didn't update. Even at 4k, the thing had some serious deficiencies, whereas DLSS was just more fps for a barely, if at all, noticeable difference. I just hope we don't have to remind them once a year or something lol

@NaokiWatanabe

2 ай бұрын

Except that isn't entirely the case. FSR 2.2.0: November 8, 2022 FSR 2.2.1: June 9, 2023 FSR 2.2.2: December 14, 2023

@Skeames1214

2 ай бұрын

I really didn't have much of a problem with FSR2 at 4k quality settings. Not that it was as good as DLSS, but I never looked at it and thought "well this looks like shit" I have a 4080, but played a few games that only shipped with FSR2 (Jedi Survivor most recently), and lemme tell you that was the least of my issues with that game lol. Looked totally fine, if I pixel peeped I could spot the difference (checked once they added DLSS), but it was like... fine. Didn't detract from my enjoyment at all. The crashing and the stuttering? That detracted from my enjoyment. I am glad they're working on making it acceptable for people running at lower resolutions, though. Some of the comparisons there are jarring.

@NamTran-xc2ip

2 ай бұрын

​@@Skeames1214fsr quality at 4k is actually decent. But the game is not. It's a shitty optimized port.

@Skeames1214

2 ай бұрын

@@NamTran-xc2ip Yeah, shockingly bad. I could have dealt with the stutters, even though it's bullshit. Those were isolated to certain areas, at least on my system, which is fairly high end. But the crashing issues that game had were the worst I've ever seen. Have had a gaming PC since 2014, never experienced anything like that. I literally stopped playing on the last level because it crashed 3 times after prolonged sequences. Probably crashed on me 50 times in total. Only got one in the refund window too lol, which I assumed was a one-off thing.

@krspy1337

2 ай бұрын

@@NaokiWatanabe 2.2.2 was just build version change since they added it in their FFX sdk, they didnt update it internally just changed number...

Well, got my fingers crossed.

thanks.

for some reason i have dlss 3 ability and when i use it, I have terrible ghosting,even worse than fsr 2.2 so why is this? The ghosting is so bad that i cant even see objects sometimes it just looks like a streak.

Huge win for gamers who like looking at building edges

When I saw articles about this a couple days ago, I was actually exciting. I mean, I know they added frame generation, but I was very confused when they didn't improve the upscaling quality along with this. Better late then never I guess 🤷‍♂️ The ghosting reduction is well welcomed.

Good stuff. Finally some improvements. Will be nice for console games as well. Tears of the Kingdom used FSR iirc so maybe it'll feature on the next nintendo console as well

@eunaoseibrother467

2 ай бұрын

Switch 2 will use DLSS

@busyBaldurus

2 ай бұрын

@@eunaoseibrother467 Is there a source for this

@eunaoseibrother467

2 ай бұрын

@@busyBaldurus every leak (like Moore law is dead for example) say this, besides switch 2 is using an ampere based gpu, why the hell they wouldnt use dlss?

@busyBaldurus

2 ай бұрын

@@eunaoseibrother467 dlss requires specialized hardware (at lest according to nvidia). wouldn't say it's guaranteed that the next nintendo console will be capable of it

@eunaoseibrother467

2 ай бұрын

@@busyBaldurus yes,and the gpu behind the Switch 2 has those things, that's my point, of course we shouldnt put too much faith in leaks, but i think is just a question of time now

Exciting news for Capcom games on PC

I can't wait to play the whole two games that support it! You know, the ones nobody ever heard of!

I'm hoping amd is going to an ai upscaler because they have a better upscaler almost ready that they don't want to share with the competition and fsr is just going to be a cut down version so 6000 series competes with dlss, but I think that might be too much to hope for

Damn 50 seconds into upload

Dragons Dogma 2 graphics settings optimization guide would be sweet

Reminder that FSR 2.0 and later 2.1 modded into games, replacing the DLSS motion vector inputs, has looked amazing in most games for close to 2 years now. Unfortunately it's most of the official implementations of FSR2 that have been a let down. Modded FSR 2.1 looks great even at 1080 Performance upscaling, with a temporally stable image, no shimmering and no disocclusion. FSR 2.2 has been a downgrade from 2.1 somehow, even modded. Hopefully 3.1 brings improvements and makes it even better than 2.1.

Decoupling frame gen from FSR is a HUGE news for rtx 2000/3000 owners. My 3060Ti may last longer than I thought!

Wow FSR 3.1! Amazing! Great job AMD.... Now if only ANY of the games I play even had FSR 3.0... I guess maybe we'll see FSR 3.1 hit these games in a coupla years when dlss 6.2 is out.

as the owner of an rog ally i am looking forward to improved upscaling/framegen