final thoughts: she's no longer a gen merchant. obviously too bad to be considered a skull merchant. so she is just a merchant now

@IareRubberDucky

7 ай бұрын

I hate to break it to you... But you can still 3 Gen with her and she's arguably better than before at doing it.

@MaxSchmidGame

7 ай бұрын

@@IareRubberDucky Really? How so?

@IKnowWhatYouDid3

7 ай бұрын

​@@IareRubberDuckycare explaining how?

@luxxers

7 ай бұрын

Whatcha buying?

@IareRubberDucky

7 ай бұрын

@@MaxSchmidGame I'll also tag @SunmyAfternoon73 who also asked. Okay, so, it doesn't matter if she doesn't know you're on a Gen in her 3 Gen, when she's patrolling a small area. Before, you'd be Exposed and everytime she tried to come up to, you'd run away and she'd retreat. Now, eventually, you're not gonna be fast enough. She's patrolling the area, so she's gonna push you off the Gen, revealed or not, and you're most likely gonna get tagged by a Drone. You're gonna get Hindered sooner or later. Soon, you're not gonna be able to outrun her, and you got injured from the Claw Trap itself. Even if you disable the Drone, it's gonna come back online eventually, so eventually, you can't outrun her.

Pretty proud of Scott for not using the word "objectively" and instead using better suited alternatives like "in general", the banter with Pixel helped.

@akdreamer6497

7 ай бұрын

He was objectively correct

@AceOf_Diamonds_

7 ай бұрын

@@akdreamer6497 I can't believe Evil Scott would do such a thing

@akdreamer6497

7 ай бұрын

@@AceOf_Diamonds_ Evil Scott and Vile Scott is the team up of the century and they are both under my bed

@WWFanatic0

7 ай бұрын

That whole argument was dumb tbh. Really bordered on a philosophy class level of "but what is truth even" kind of vibes.

@szalyn8849

7 ай бұрын

​@@akdreamer6497run

scott, I really am not a fan of the background of your new house, could you please key a png of your old apartment (maybe a still from one of your streams) into the background of your next video? I believe it would help me become accustomed to this new angle and environment of junding thank you for your time -a concerned viewer

@26suspects28

7 ай бұрын

Honestly if he never mentioned he moved I would've never noticed. The setup and room look basically the same

@TheLoaKai

7 ай бұрын

I was wondering why he has a bunch of shit on the floor and refuses to put it somewhere.

@ServantOfTheSouth

7 ай бұрын

Why do people care

@beefstrokinoff

7 ай бұрын

@@TheLoaKaithe shit on the flooor is stuff he needs his dad's help with and hasn't done it yet

Personally I think the mistake was to try and make her power chase-oriented. They should have completed leaned into the "hunter" fantasy and gave her incredible tracking (incorporating the radar more too since it's basically pointless now) instead of giving her damaging or HInder effects. It's fine if a killer lacks lethatlity in chase as long as they can compensate in some other way, like Wraith or Doctor. Forcing the drones to work in chase was not the play. But that's probably never getting changed again so it is what it is.

@MilkManic

7 ай бұрын

I know! Personally I have no idea why she doesn't have killer instinct or aura reading from her drones

@lred1383

7 ай бұрын

considering the amount of backlash, another rework would not shock me. There's hope yet

@yeayea115

7 ай бұрын

I think it would be cool if she had to aim her drones to attack. Like Set in smite. Where he sets down clones and can designate a point for them all to rush towards and hit

@Angel_Flash

7 ай бұрын

@@yeayea115 artist and singularity already exist

@TheRealFigLizard

7 ай бұрын

So many people said they wanted her to be chase-oriented though, which is probably why they did it

Checkers Merchant is such an accurate name.

Scott's hair is slowly starting to gain sentience like Skynet

@starke_zerstorer

7 ай бұрын

It wasn’t programmed to harm the crew

I'm not sure Behaviour can really win here. The community has a pretty specific idea of what "fun" survivor gameplay is. There is nothing wrong with that, but there are really only so many ways Behaviour can make a "move fast" or "throw projectile" killers. Especially in this game where the objective is so simple (And the maps so random, can't make anything utilizing map layouts effectively) Do gens, delay getting hit OR Prevent gen progress, get hits as fast as possible. And your defenses as survivor is pallet, window, or distance. They could just start exclusively pumping those out the "go fast" or "throw projectile" killers, but I would be inclined to make a claim that the community will start complaining about a lack of "unique" killers. Or, "oh look another anti loop killer", which is already happening pretty much no matter what killer is released at this point.

@gianglai7346

3 күн бұрын

The Unknown is pretty fun

Just admit that you have a crush on her Scott

@chadgunner4403

7 ай бұрын

Mods, crush his skull merchant, thank you

@flossy5258

7 ай бұрын

​@@chadgunner4403is that ltg

Skully needs to take the hint. Scott doesn't "like you, like you" stop trying to impress him by completely changing yourself and wearing chase killer makeup. He just isn't interested.

The way wesker gets hits with his power you can literally make montages out of

@beh256

7 ай бұрын

But...but...but my p100 4k comp boring merchant montage is also cool I... I... I... outplay by pressing m2 at a loop and and it's skil

@blightedcat2137

7 ай бұрын

yeah wesker montages are actually so fun to watch

@mordecai6351

7 ай бұрын

Yeah lemme go make a montage of using bug techs and hitting awkward ass hitboxes smh. The fucking clowns and simps for Wesker are beyond mental.

Here Scott, guys hey

“I just Clicked right mouse and ran along the sides” but isn’t this what blight does and gets guaranteed hits even sooner?

I've seen her played as a stealth killer. If you're just trying to use her in loop, yeah, there's nothing there. I think her design isn't there yet. But she's going to have to be treated as an ambush killer, not yet another clown variant.

After playing her I'm also sad to have learned that the 3-gen strat can still kinda-sorta work, at least against SoloQ who can't call out drone locations or coordinate drone hacking (not that it does much since it comes back online in 45 seconds even if she doesn't just recall and redeploy it if she passes by). In most maps there's a 3-gen by default (although some are much worse than others) and there's usually _some_ empty space and a couple loops that the Survivors will _have_ to go through if they ever get interrupted. During a game in Toba Landing, the Survivors were already in bad shape but only 1 kill at 1 gen remaining (3 on 2nd hook, the 4th one was running all stealth perk and gave up on hook after I got him the first time) and they accidentally 3-genned themselves by only doing the gens in the upper part of the map and main, leaving the last 3 gens on the same side. With 6 drones, the new Dull Merchant can cover impressive ground and all I did was set up 4 drones in the 4 loops that were available closest to the gens and the last 2 drones were set up in open spaces between the gens, semi-hidden amongst the clutter. With _absolutely no imput from me beyond pressing M2 ages ago_ I got everybody injured without pressing M1 and most of those injuries were completely out of my sight. Every time I chased away Survivors from gens, they would run to the closest loop or MFT away in open space, both of which had a drone in it. I didn't even _mean_ for it to turn into a war of attrition but eventually they just gave up and I let them go because I felt bad XD If the map is small enough/the 3-gen is tight enough, SM can _still_ stall with little imput, the rework was arguably a massive buff to her overall power but it just turned her into a more obnoxious Knight with even less skill required.

@Insanity-vv9nn

5 ай бұрын

Her 3 gen is far stronger now, because of the amount of drones and debuffs she can lock a entire side of the map and have no counterplay

Going down to things that feel like bullshit is the worst thing as a survivor, you're right there. It's why trapper is so unfun, it's why so many people hate nurses and blights too. Powers that just feel like it's rewarding things outside of your control (can't afford a better/larger screen, trap wasn't visible because of geometry), or just powers that feel like there's no reasonable counter (nurse teleporting, blight invalidating most loops). Looks like new SM is falling into something like this, which isn't great to hear. Survivors gotta take hits eventually but god damn just make it feel like there's something I could be doing against it BHVR lol.

@garrettlauderbaugh312

7 ай бұрын

Based

@IKnowWhatYouDid3

7 ай бұрын

​@@garrettlauderbaugh312that's very based of you to accuse someone of being based

@larsliamvilhelm

7 ай бұрын

@@IKnowWhatYouDid3 "Based" is not an accusation, it's a commendation.

@IKnowWhatYouDid3

7 ай бұрын

@@larsliamvilhelm that's very based

@WutTheDeuceGaming

7 ай бұрын

finding Nurse blinks and Blight rushes to be uncounterable, I mean really? Are we really talking about those two things guaranteeing hits because they're not even close. I ain't even that good as survivor, but that statement made me shake my head. At this point, you should know how to play against both of these. You can dodge BOTH of them without any caveats, you just move out of the way. With Nurse, you can see where she's going to go based on her red stain. Dead hard is very good against her, so is doubling back. At this point, you should know what surfaces Blight can hug. Not to mention you can run into him after rush 1, instant counter. Sounds to me like you're running way to much shack against these two and not doing much else.

Scott "Skull Merchant" Jund

I think she's alright, at least to the level of a regular killer. I don't enjoy playing against her now that she can swap the scanner direction, since it removes the aspect of trying to loop her without gaining lock on. She's just another Trickster in my book. Inoffensive but certainly nothing to write home about.

@matthewking7571

7 ай бұрын

Trickster at least had style

@HabitsRabbits

7 ай бұрын

@@matthewking7571 True, but at least SM's music doesn't sound like nails on a chalk board.

@matthewking7571

7 ай бұрын

@@HabitsRabbits is his music that bad? Is her music good?

@HabitsRabbits

7 ай бұрын

@@matthewking7571 Trickster's chase to me is genuinely ear rending. Skull Merchant's is alright, not my favorite but not the worst, kinda like how she is a killer.

@matthewking7571

7 ай бұрын

@@HabitsRabbits eh she's pretty inspired to me, at least trickster comes across as inspired

completely off topic but what are your thoughts on buckle up for the people? I have been seeing it so much recently and i’m surprised after the first patch it was added ppl haven’t said much on it, meanwhile every day is a new documentary on mft

2:29 the kinda person to call you a tunneler in end game chat.

How would you get blood lust if you place a drone. This doesn't make sense to me. Also, Clown does pretty much the same thing as you described in the video, yet you do not compare them. Why?

@larsliamvilhelm

7 ай бұрын

Clown doesn't have to bloodlust, and there's strategy involved in where you throw the afterpiece and where you throw the antidote. Skull Merchant presses M2 once, then bloodlusts until she gets profit.

@garrettlauderbaugh312

7 ай бұрын

It doesn't take much brain power to throw a bottle, He also can use bottles to gain haste faster than blood lust. Your argument does not convince me there is much difference@@larsliamvilhelm

@WutTheDeuceGaming

7 ай бұрын

skill. Nothing more to say.

@ScottJund

7 ай бұрын

i actually compared her to clown like 10 times in my stream today. it is actually very similar except with SM you dont even have to aim any gas or anything

@garrettlauderbaugh312

7 ай бұрын

I see. You are right about the skill expression. Just played a few games with her and it feels like despite all the bells and whistles, you only need one bell and one whistle. I wish they went a more stealth and information route with her @@ScottJund

Ok, but like.....what's preventing survivors from running away from the loop/predropping the pallet like Clown? Skull Merchant can't even hinder the survivor as they run away from the loop. This isn't to say you're wrong about her being unfun, I think the reason she's unfun is the fact that she doesn't have a unique selling point anymore. You don't get anything out of her anymore that you wouldn't out of Clown. Before the rework, she had insane tracking power meaning that Chase Merchant could free up slots in her build for chase perks that would've gone into tracking or gen defense on Clown. But now? She's just.....Clown but worse.

Now even more people are gonna play her. Hurrayyyyy

@FraoAlt

7 ай бұрын

It's fine as long as the Gen Merchant playstyle isn't a thing anymore.

@zenshines2005_

7 ай бұрын

I dont see an issue with her anymore tbh.

@Dexrazor

7 ай бұрын

@@zenshines2005_watch the video

Hey Scott, I just played a game as skull merchant where there were these two megs that were abnormally fast while healthy and injured (fast to the point where if they were any decent at the game I simply would not have been able to catch them with even tier 3 bloodlust). After the game ends, neither of them ended up having made for this or any movement speed perk besides only one of them having hope. They were both on pc (I play xbox) and one of them was private profile, the other's name was Itachi. Do you think this is a new glitch or were they cheating.

I've played and won my 1st 20 games with Skull Merchant/no add-ons, been playing DBD since 2017, Rank 1, so I get ALL the survivors. 3 to 4 K each game with no tunneling, camping, or slugging. Straight run and gun style . I've been loving her and the people I've played against have said they enjoyed their games also. She's not a boring killer at all, just the people playing her are boring lol. Big difference.

So many problems with this game would be solved if they'd just stop screwing around with movement speed. Increasing it or decreasing it, killer or survivor, almost every time they touch movement speed it makes everything worse.

you should try the low-power mode, and adaptive lighting add-ons. it makes to where if you always place a drone right off cool down you have perma undetectable. its like ghost merchant. its a lota fun to play around with but other than that she is boring af to play

@xSinfulGodx

7 ай бұрын

😂 What? You can mix her chasing addon and be a speedster with chase perks as well. What you mean that the only way to have fun when you can do alot with addons and perks.

@ApacheVibes

7 ай бұрын

@@xSinfulGodx just my opinion bro I find her base kit and a majority of her add ons boring.

@zenshines2005_

7 ай бұрын

With the furtive chase buff, you can place a drone after the duration of the undetectable status from furtive chase ends, so you get 24 seconds of undetectable technically.

Scott now you have to tell us how you would rework her. It's just the law. You have to do it.

@Mr_Mistah

7 ай бұрын

He would make her drone a skill shot that launches at you because every killer has to have a skillshot interactive power

@Katana314

7 ай бұрын

I think that’s what he means by “unsalvageable”. When the only base mechanic to work with is “Reach into her ass and let a metal pigeon fly” it is never going to result in anything we’d call mechanical skill.

@thestylemage2092

7 ай бұрын

It's actually very simple: So you see, she has this mechanical techno stuff on her left arm and her power is that it extends over that arm with a short charge up, after which she dashes and tries to grab a survivor and slam/throw them into stuff or other survivors. If she doesn't hit a wall or survivor with the first dash, she has a short window that allows her to execute a follow up dash. If the dashes hit a pallet she vaults it. Landing a grab on a survivor injects micro drones into them, that build up over time, inflicting a slow effect at full build up. Survivors can cure these using a killer item that spawns in a few limited chests across the map.

@jim-cq3xh

7 ай бұрын

He literally said she's unsalvagable.

@dededede9257

7 ай бұрын

Just delete her xD

You can just hold forward and not stay at the same loop you can go where her drones are not. that’s pretty much how trapper works if you just ignore her drones completely you make the most time difference like how you just not really use pallets or windows on trapper unless you know she doesn’t have a drone and you can loop her

@Insanity-vv9nn

5 ай бұрын

That’s if the killer player is stupid, which they are not so they will never follow you to the other side of the map with no drones

@epticmaniac5764

4 ай бұрын

@@Insanity-vv9nn I’m saying if you ignore loops and just run and not run into her drones or let her set them down you make the most time distance rather than looping like not looping a trapper you know has a trap at a window or pallet if every survivor just moves forward and stays away from loops but also just holds forward make the most distance then she will have to get bloodlust to catch you and you don’t give her her drone value

Both the hindered and haste status effects in general make the game boring

The bloodlust argument is so weird, like she only have to hit M1 once, while other M1 killers have to get BL3 twice.

You gonna hang up those posters sometime this year?

I love how Scott hates on killers for all the reasons I love them. Killer has no counter. Yes Scott. Exactly.

Scotts issues with new merchant is how I've felt about clown but thats none of my buisness, just force survivors to walk.

@nileboy5055

7 ай бұрын

at least clown has to aim

@nicememes7570

7 ай бұрын

@@nileboy5055 I mean if you get right up on them like skull has to do does it make a difference? (Assuming they did implement the drone scanning as soon as it's placed)

@nileboy5055

7 ай бұрын

@@nicememes7570 clown bottles slow the clown too though so there is way less differential aside from bloodlust

@sub-zero5283

7 ай бұрын

​@nileboy5055 BHVR removed the speed reduction from Clown while he aimed and threw bottles a couple of months ago. But for some reason, the skull merchant has a speed reduction while she checks her radar.

@kingkurasaki4095

7 ай бұрын

@@sub-zero5283they removed her speed reduction too actually

How long have you been in that room and you haven't hung up those posters brother?

So, basically, you are complaining again about her, in the last Ptb she was the weakest of the killers and you were also complaining about it, now that she can be a good killer in general, you are complaining once more. I honestly love her rework, and I DEFINITELY prefer to go againts this Skull Merchant than the old Chess Merchant. Ur complaining about everything that she does.

to be honest during the ptb I thought she was going to be trash but shes actually fun, its better than 3 gen merchant

i mean, the " you die in you keep looping" happens with the knight too, i could argue trapper as well but that would be a bit of a reach, having to leave the loop isn't that bad of a counter imo.

If BHVR weren't lazy they'd put more effort in making her drones more interactable on both sides. SM could control them in a similar way to the Cenobite's chain, survivors could dodge projectiles that track/injure/deep-wound you... But no. They stick to the "place down drone, let drone do its thing (mostly), chase until you get free m1". As long as she has basically no interactability with her own drones besides placing them down, removing them, and now changing the scan direction, she'll be a boring killer regardless of how strong or weak she is.

What people mean about her 3-gen is gone? It just changed. That's all. You play more like Hag and put traps around your 3-gen (or other are you pick), but you can't leave. Games will end faster with her 3-gen, but chase merchant is worse than before.

So basically, she still unfun to play and go against? Great update!!

@ryannem1216

7 ай бұрын

She's fun to play for me

as a skull merchant main i'm really sad

Her reworked power is supposed to be a zoning tool, right? Feels like if you don't accept being zoned out of the area she chooses to control, then...you're supposed to get punished the longer you stay in it. Zoners traditionally want to create a "you only get uncomfortable choices, the difference is how bad" scenario against their enemies, and how it translates to DBD is zoning what would traditionally be the secure loops to make them unsafe quickly. If they are surrounded by bad loop transitions, that's essentially the point of the power - you will get the down. If the killer power is supposed to be "this is my territory now" and the survivors just ignore that, why is it bad design for them to reach a point of being unable to stop the killer killing them for it?

Hey Scott, Guys here

Have u still been playing TCM Scott?

Scott Merchant

5:14 i just had to put the game down for this i play 3 matches against her and it was just leave pallet simulator i think im going take a break till i see actually changes in dbd

I think the problem isn't that survivors eventually go down no matter what, because as you said that's true for every killer. The main problem is that if the skull merchant plays correctly there is nothing survivors can do to meaningfully extend the chase by using their own skill.

@Thetruggyman

7 ай бұрын

I don’t see that as being a problem that’s how killers should be

@dodang_9147

7 ай бұрын

that is also not true, scott said that you leave loops and connect tiles to extend chases. he just finds hold-w and connecting tiles as boring counter-play. what I always found ironic is how nobody thinks that killer kicking pallets is not boring counter-play for the killer.

Scott do the Scott shaker

I think them keeping her speed boost and adding hindered was just unnecessary. I like what other people are saying in making her about tracking. Just reduce her terror radius to 24 and give her more utility and unpredictability

@dodang_9147

7 ай бұрын

dude, she has permanent undetectable. permanent undetectable is what ghostface and wraith have and they are not good killers. skull merchant has chase potencial but scott is complaining that her chase potencial is uninteresting.

@truth5764

7 ай бұрын

@@dodang_9147 yeah that’s my point. She has chase potential but it just consists of randomly speeding herself up and randomly slowing survivors down. No one’s in control. It’s totally random. I played against her yesterday and made a ton of distance at a pallet, but she downed me within seconds because she got a speed boost somehow

@dodang_9147

7 ай бұрын

@@truth5764 it is not random. hindered always occurs when your scanned and haste also occurs when you are scanned. she is in control and your not.

Based

I actually like the game in general. If they took off a few pallets it would be perfect

3:10 *Looks at every killer with a one-shot ability*

@BlueCarnage0

7 ай бұрын

? But you actually have to hit all of those? Myers needs a hit, Ghostface needs to stalk than hit, Billy needs to work for it, Bubba can't go over/through windows/pallets

@iPyroNigma

7 ай бұрын

Pretty sure you need to stalk or chainsaw people... both of which void bloodlust gain.

@kaio3500

7 ай бұрын

If you think there’s nothing you can do against a ghost face, Billy, oni, or bubba it may just be a skill issue

@1nfiniteVo1d

7 ай бұрын

If you genuinely think killers that can instadown are problematic, then it’s simply a skill issue.

@jasoncuriale8613

7 ай бұрын

That’s just, wrong? Even Bubba, who’s chainsaw I think is stupid, at least has to rev it up for a couple of seconds and actually aim at the survivor without bumping into a wall.

I really disliked killers that click a button to deploy something and it helps them get a hit

Aren't the survivors inmune to the scan when crouching? Maybe there's some counterplay there

@matthewking7571

7 ай бұрын

Did you watch the video?

So instead of Chess, She plays Checkers now right?

The issue with her, is that she is so, god, awfully, boring. And when most of the community, both survivors and killers, agree that she is boring, that’s not subjective, she is just straight up boring.

Drones should shoot lasers to survivors, that would balance everything up. /s

impressive

I really wonder what pixel is going to say about this video. Great video Scott, I generally think that SM is beyond salvageable. They would have to come up with a better power for here plus probably have to rework a shit ton of stuff.

Well they are buffing background player to 200% for 5 seconds so If you are good at flashbang saves, you could at least not make so easy for her to get quick downs.

Does a killer always need a high skill ceiling?

@ScottJund

7 ай бұрын

No?

I don't think we should be upset that Skull Merchant makes you leave a loop as most killers do...do you stay at a loop against Myers,Hag,Doctor,Trickster,Clown,Freddy? We should celebrate that Skull Merchant has multiple options even if some are less viable/fun for either side

@amethystrose3480

7 ай бұрын

Actually most of those killers have the option as well. Some specific circumstances for a few but it’s doable.

I am gonna stay on pyramid head and demogrgon anyway there nothing to do that could save that killer

To be honest there are killer worse than her in my opinion, but she’s at least tolerable to me anyways.

objectively merchant'd

As a survivor I would say going against her feels like I only got hit or went down because the game said I have to. Not because of the player, but the game said so.i know it’s more than that or whatever but genuinely, that’s how it feels. The stupid thing is, she is also not over powered! But then I say, they did it dirty to my poor Freddy so she can suck too. Nerf her.

honestly get rid of her drones and just give her a satellite or something that you can ping certain areas to give certain effects to the map like exhaustion, blindness, etc the drones are just an horrendous gimic

Yeah, what Scott was saying really highlighted how the issue is that her Drones don’t take any mechanical skill to set up. And I’m not sure there’s a way to really add that. That aspect might not be entirely necessary, as people don’t need to play Skull Merchant unless they like setting up a web of drones. However, the more significant issue is how to make dodging drones fun for survivors. I wonder if they could have some kind of flash grenade type weapon that could stun the drone. This could then allow the survivor to decide which drone they should stun while in chase (and maybe the drones could still be manually disabled through the hacking mini game. This would allow healthy survivors to delay the damage and the hindered, and allow injured survivors to delay the hindered. And if she sets up a drone at a strong loop, maybe you don’t need to save a drone stun grenade, and can save it for medium strength loop.

So, i get that you still don't like her, but my question is, is she good enough that people are going to play her? Or are we still safe from seeing her in marchmaking?

Took me a while to realize, but with the rework and the Claw Trap's built in Haste and Hindered: It's just the Old "Chase Merchant" with some extra steps. And Chase Merchant wasn't fun to go against either.

@Mr_Mistah

7 ай бұрын

What killer is fun to against according to you?

@FromWreckToCheck

7 ай бұрын

@@Mr_Mistah Survivors only want to go against killers they can loop for 5 gens like Pig lol

@TappedWalnut

7 ай бұрын

​@@Mr_Mistah Skull Merchant, Knight, Artist are killers I just don't like going against, don't like being trapped in a corner i guess, and those 3 are pretty effective at zoning you out. The rest are pretty much fair game to me. Might be biased on that but i like a good chunk of the killers regardless.

@WutTheDeuceGaming

7 ай бұрын

@@TappedWalnut Artist doesn't trap you in a corner unless you allow her to do so. Her crows aren't guaranteed hits

@Mr_Mistah

7 ай бұрын

​@@FromWreckToCheck Seriously. It's so blatantly obvious at this point.

Give survivors a gun so we can stun anti-loop killers lmao

I’m just glade 3 gen is gone and now we could actually play the game tbh idc about new SM there’s so many other problematic killers it’s genuinely like ohhh welcome to dbd we’re used to this by now 😅

Well at least she kinda counters MFT/hope … ?

The smart thing to do when being chased by her is to just ignore zones when injured, exposed means nothing when injured but if she has the dissolution addon just don’t vault pallets unless absolutely necessary

@tritanopia8452

7 ай бұрын

Drones dont give exposed anymore, they instead make you broken with a claw trap and then hinder you if you have a claw trap and get scanned. Also the dissolution addon is gone but it doesnt matter because she will just guarantee a hit at a single loop

Scott "Survivor Main" Jund.

I played one skull merchant last night. It was someone going for adept. They did so well we couldn’t even get halfway on a gen. Granted I’m not at the highest level but it was completely not fun. The killer stayed at the max distance of a hook and ran right at it when they saw someone going to get the unhook. Hooked that person asap and kept all drones near her 3 gen and the hook. It was overall an extremely boring game.

Checkers merchant

I'm still being accused of 3 genning and face camping even tho its much harder to do both those things now

@thatgayvillain3234

7 ай бұрын

That's cause they haven't addressed the survivor entitlement issue... nothing to do with your game play.

I still don’t understand why they took out the break pallets with claw traps. They want her to be chase oriented yet take away one of her best chase tools? And I think she’s really good against idiot survivors but gets shit on by even one survivor with a brain cell. (I’m excluding swfs because we all know) I think she needs some touch ups to make her power not so clunky. Like why does she still disable her power by walking under drones?? Stealth drones are inconsistent still even with the rotation add on.

@FancyDakota

7 ай бұрын

Then you would be able to do literally nothing against her

@blckorb6322

7 ай бұрын

@@FancyDakota no…you’d do what you do with literally every zoning killer. Run somewhere else or take the risk and vault the pallet. And that’s only with a trap on. You don’t get them as consistently as you did before because disabling drones doesn’t give them anymore

@gachispy

7 ай бұрын

Because that feature was idiotic to begin with?

@blckorb6322

7 ай бұрын

@@gachispy how was it dumb? She’s a shit killer in chase and it helped her somewhat. And now that they reworked her to be solely chase oriented now it just makes sense to have that basekit still Because she’s still fucking weak. I don’t get how you guys are saying this is op when her power is shit

@harley202

7 ай бұрын

​@blckorb6322 you did just watch the same video we all did right? She's problematic atm because she can play like she's brain dead on loops so why on earth would they let her keep that too? Shed literally be uncountable. This has to be one of the most killer sided takes I've seen on this whole thing, if youd played survivor aggaisnt her after these changes youd know how shit it is to get downed because the rework just gives her free downs your idea on top would be the worst thing imaginable. 😂

Claims to care about removing things that aren't fun to play against while also running MFT + Hope vs baby killers on stream - ScottJund

@flossy5258

7 ай бұрын

True

@ScottJund

7 ай бұрын

i have been asking for MFT to be nerfed since it came out. are you just ignoring that or what

@flossy5258

7 ай бұрын

@@ScottJund true

@FromWreckToCheck

7 ай бұрын

@@ScottJund Why do you use it then? No one finds it fun to play against at all.

@ScottJund

7 ай бұрын

​@@FromWreckToCheckbecause it's fun to use

She's just a noob stomper, anyone with any skill can still just meme on her

She's objectively in the game.

I don't know what you're ta3 about

her pick rate was below 2% last time I checked with the highest 3/4K games out of the entire roster. Let that sink in. The only people that will be defending this POS killer are the bots who don't know how to loop, which is how this killer functions. Nobody with a brain or any skill are gonna pick this character. Her power is an admission to that imo. Don't need to learn anything, don't have to try at all, just click a button and hold W.

@Mr_Mistah

7 ай бұрын

I can't wait to play Skull Merchant and ruin your fun. Nothing is more fun than stomping survivor mains like you that run MFS, Lithe, Reassurance, and still complain about killers.

@XenoVT

7 ай бұрын

Reminds me of MFT users 😂, main ones defending it are the people that think they are good at looping when it's literally just the perk letting them get away with a few mistakes. Same situation when Dead Hard was first nerfed and the ones that relied on it so hard couldn't loop for shit 😂

@Mr_Mistah

7 ай бұрын

@@XenoVT The fact people are complaining SM can negate loops tells you everything. Survivors want to play a game where they only do gens and the killer is there just to spook them.

ofcourse her design is unengaging, all she does is walking around and her power is automatic, except the placement which doesnt her slow down. The only thing you can do it microgameplay, and every killer has that aspect. The only thing skull merchant player do is optimising their micro gameplay and see if the survivor team manages it or not.

I knew it was gonna be an issue, lmaooo. Make the hinder last 3-4 seconds after being scanned, increase the radius, and make it so you can crouch beneath the entire thing, remove her stealth from it, and bam.

@Mr_Mistah

7 ай бұрын

Agree with mostly everyone except remove stealth. Stealth is her best advantage

@typervader

7 ай бұрын

You can already crouch on them. You can crouch walk though beams unless that was fixed

@demonicgoblinz8850

7 ай бұрын

@@typervader in the video he points out you can only crouch through certain parts of it, you habe to be close to the center for that to work.

@typervader

7 ай бұрын

@@demonicgoblinz8850 No, I'm pretty sure I've saw that you can crouch walk though all of it, unless I'm misunderstood what pixel said

@larsliamvilhelm

7 ай бұрын

Or just remove Skull Merchant.

I think another rework is in order. I’ve been thinking about ways to maybe fix her and make her enjoyable for both sides and honestly just give her drones the ability to tune in like singularity but instead of teleports she just sticks survivors with the claw trap (each drone can only fire 1 trap and only 2 survivors may have the trap at a time. The max number of traps gets reduced to 1 once a survivor dies). the trackers give survivors some kind of debuff like blindness and oblivious or incapacitated or just a reduction in gen repair speed, as well as giving her a 2-3% movement speed for every claw trap on a survivor, the way to remove a claw trap would be to find some type of prop around to map to basically short circuit it or hack it. The idea here is gen slow down but not to the point where she can dominate a 3 gen.

@raredivine

7 ай бұрын

0% chance of that happening

Skull Merchant is. Good killer, end of discussion

ayo bring back damnnohtml

you could jsut make a video of 3seconde and say "she sucks" x') same view same result same love

honestly, I feel like a lot of new killer designs are "bad" because dead by daylight players suffer from an extreme lack of adaptability and creativity

@icy_demons_

7 ай бұрын

I cannot agree more. What more counterplay do u have against an Artist putting a crow on a pallet? I dont think thats a problem of adaptability. Knight putting his Ai on a loop. Whats the counterplay if knight is going left and Ai is going right. Explain to me please. I dont think those are lack of creativity or adaptability

@WutTheDeuceGaming

7 ай бұрын

this killer is the very definition of lack of creativity. Game makes it easier for dogwater killers to get hits, it's the same thing with the Knight. You cannot adapt to something where the result is set in stone. What you said insinuates you can avoid it, which you cannot.

@WutTheDeuceGaming

7 ай бұрын

@@icy_demons_ what more counterplay against Artist? Run into the crow and/or leave the loop. She has a long delay after placing and shooting the crow, the direction of the crow is also telegraphed by the player placing it. She's not guaranteed a hit because the player must time it, she doesn't get to place a crow and get a guaranteed health state like Dull Merchant or Knight. She's far from those two other dumb killers. Those two click a button and that's it. There's no tells and there's no way to avoid it. You cannot adapt to that.

3:30 I'm not a fan of Skull Merchant, but here's the problem: Scott doesn't get that "Just place the drone in a smarter area" IS the skill expression Pixel was talking about. Kind of like Hag and Trapper traps. It's just mechanical skill against knowledge. And yeah, survivors probably have no way to counter it. But as you said, it's not insanely fast, and for some people that don't want to be mechanically challenged, this is fun. It's not OP, atleast so far it didn't seem to be, but they have a chance to win depending on their map knowledge. Yeah you can't run her forever, but as Pixel said, that's the point.

@ScottJund

7 ай бұрын

yeah that's just where opinions differ i guess. that is technically skill expression, but its about an inch off the ground. you just put it close enough to scan but far enough away that you cant crouch under it. its extremely, extremely simple

Thank God hardly anyone is gonna play her

I feel like a potential solution (or part of a solution) would be to bring back the base kit dissolution. Claw traps used to break pallets if you vaulted them (at the cost of the claw trap). Tweak that a little and replace the hindered with that.

@xSinfulGodx

7 ай бұрын

😂 I'm not trying to be mean nor disrespectful but were you not listening. He was upset of her constantly scanning until them with hindrance until she catch them at loop. If you replace that with the old clawtrap pallet break no loop with pallets will be safe. Heck that will be even more busted than the hindrance. And I'm a p42 merchant and ik that shouldn't be added.

@leonidasra2010

7 ай бұрын

Hey that doesn't sound completely terrible ignore that other guy he played chess Merchant their opinion in invalid

@xSinfulGodx

7 ай бұрын

@@leonidasra2010 so you want clawtrap to break pallets when it's easy to clawtrap survivors now. They forget they also injury you now. You can't tell me you ain't dumb. Use your brain my guy.😂

@-arcademaster101-

7 ай бұрын

@@xSinfulGodx fair enough, I was just trying to think of a more engaging way to go about it rather than "a high tech clown bottle". I'm also just a really big fan of dissolution and I'm upset it's terror radius dependant so that probably has something to do with it 🤷‍♂️

@-arcademaster101-

7 ай бұрын

@@leonidasra2010 man does have a little bit of a point, you'd certainly need to tweak other aspects but adding that into her kit could be a welcome change

Goodbye Gen merchant, hello pallet merchant. It's a bit funny, there was a person that said to me "L for maining the Skull Merchant" , but yet I have been using this technique, and winning. Today was a good day :3.

@WutTheDeuceGaming

7 ай бұрын

that person is still correct. That's still an L. You're using a killer with a handholding mechanic because you can't loop. "Hey, I can win by clicking a button", real impressive dude. Congrats on sucking too much to play killers that take skill. Way to go.

@violeine692

7 ай бұрын

Stop crying, you are making me smile (too late). Hey, at least you have hope and made for this. The next time you play against a Skull Merchant, just DC. The bots play better than you anyway. Ok, now you have my permission to cry again :3 @@WutTheDeuceGaming

@caderainier4052

7 ай бұрын

@@WutTheDeuceGaming "Hey, I can win by clicking a button" Holy shit, dude just discovered how killer powers work.

@legobatmanthevideogame3194

7 ай бұрын

@@WutTheDeuceGaming that´s how killers works, with wesker you click a button and make more pressure than ghostface slugging 3 survivors at 5 gens

the match in background is painful to watch

good luck responding to this one pixel

Everyone should DC against her. No reason not to

She feels like clown, but with zero effort required.

Dropping a pallet within the radius of a drone that had been placed within the last 20 seconds will automatically disable the drone as if it had been hacked. If you, as a survivor, predrop a pallet, the merchant can punish you by her drone... But if she drops her drone first, you can punish by disabling it and getting away or looping at that loop for 45 seconds without fear of the drone. Also, make it so if the merchant can't recall a disabled drone. That way, they don't just recall it and throw it back down