Film Theory: The Mystery of Dune's Spice SOLVED! (Dune)

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Dune is an epic fantasy that has captured the imaginations of people for YEARS. It all centers around a specific substance known as "spice". This spice is the key to everything in the Dune universe. Today, Theorists, I am to figure out what exactly that spice IS and WHY it works the way that it does. It's time to get spicy!
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  • @Draiocht012
    @Draiocht0122 жыл бұрын

    Matpat: *spends 10 minutes explaining how prednisone is probably the bulk of spice* Also Matpat: "What about the genius calculations? Eh probably cocaine idk."

  • @taricsuporfeed1474

    @taricsuporfeed1474

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Probably cocaine" The Juice of Sapho which the mentats use, and which stains their lips, is essentially super cocaine lol

  • @transgender_F-117

    @transgender_F-117

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@taricsuporfeed1474 juice of Sappho??

  • @johnlemon3732

    @johnlemon3732

    Жыл бұрын

    spice definitely cocaine

  • @ismata3274

    @ismata3274

    Жыл бұрын

    @@taricsuporfeed1474 wasn't it coffee?

  • @taricsuporfeed1474

    @taricsuporfeed1474

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ismata3274 I don't think so, The Juice of Sapho is a substance extracted from the roots of a plant, which sounds much more like Opium than Coffee Beans which is why I always found Cocaine to be the closest substance for comparison.

  • @sapphirewingthefurrycritic985
    @sapphirewingthefurrycritic9852 жыл бұрын

    For anyone who has never read the books and only the movie, yeah a lot of stuff from the books inspired Star wars. There was also a lot of inspiration from the Valerian comics (which aren't from America so I can understand why not many people understand) not including more obvious inspiration from samurai movies and westerns. Besides its not really a rip off because Star wars is way less opposed to AI compared to Dune so its easier for a droid to calculate interstellar math than a human.

  • @qeryuu800

    @qeryuu800

    2 жыл бұрын

    ...there is a bot problem on youtube now

  • @mrsmith4435

    @mrsmith4435

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cap

  • @Luminousreign

    @Luminousreign

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is weirdly defensive. Not having the butlerian jihad doesnt make it not a rip off. Star Wars doesnt care if it was directly influenced by dune. It faced those criticisms and still put droids in the prequels.

  • @mylife-23

    @mylife-23

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Luminousreign actually it was based off tons of different things not just Dune. I did a essay on George Lucas's creation of star wars & how it changed the world.

  • @iamaperson1089

    @iamaperson1089

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm a fan of Star Wars, it's my favorite franchise out there. I never heard of Dune before this movie, and I didn't even think of it being a Star Wars ripoff. I thought if anything it would be cool for them to be connected somehow. Even so, I cannot believe people think it's a ripoff, that's like saying the moon landing is a Star Wars ripoff because it takes place in space.

  • @frankmillersincity1
    @frankmillersincity12 жыл бұрын

    Actually, I recall Paul went blind because some rebels tried off him with a 'stone burner' atomic weapon, it blinded a bunch of other fremen as well. This became a plot point because blind fremen were considered useless and were expected to fall on their knives or die in the desert. I think its the former because, why waste the water? Paul said he'd pay for bionic eyes for those that wanted them. But I digress, its been a decade since I read original books, but I'm certain he didn't go blind from spice consumption. Still kudos on the theory combination of reality and imaginary worlds and the like.

  • @JaceRidley

    @JaceRidley

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly. I love Mat, but he should have read ahead. lol

  • @imbaby5499

    @imbaby5499

    Ай бұрын

    You're right, I finished Dune Messiah yesterday. It's strange, I've heard/read the incorrect explanation of how Paul went blind so many times, I was surprised when I read that part in the book.

  • @aperson6291

    @aperson6291

    Ай бұрын

    Bit of a late reply, but I just finished reading Dune Messiah, and (spoilers below) He was blinded by the stone burner, and then left out in the middle of the desert to die. It sounds like the Fremen justify this waste of water as giving it back to Shai-Hulud (the sandworks).

  • @BreadLordDormammu
    @BreadLordDormammu2 жыл бұрын

    Paul goes blind because he gets irradiated by a weapon know as a Stone Burner. Not because of his blue eyes.

  • @thareall23

    @thareall23

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was just about to say.

  • @tonamg53

    @tonamg53

    2 жыл бұрын

    But the blue eyes would’ve accelerate the damages that he gets from being irradiated by… well just about anything really.

  • @garrettlogue4249

    @garrettlogue4249

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tonamg53 it's described as "blue within blue", it's not the lack of pigment, there's something else not described going on. One of the snippits in the first few books said it actually acted as a form of protection from the sunlight and enabled the Fremen to see better during the day.

  • @Usual_User

    @Usual_User

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, that's Matt Pat, what did you expect..

  • @C.Y.123

    @C.Y.123

    Жыл бұрын

    Correct

  • @TheScottybob
    @TheScottybob2 жыл бұрын

    My late wife had Lupus and therefore took Prednisone from the age of 13 until she past at 30. She had a lowered immune system and suffered from night terrors from it but was always looking toward the bright side of her situation. She would have loved your video Matt and would definitely had started calling her daily med regimen her daily spice melange.

  • @seanfitzgerald341

    @seanfitzgerald341

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have someone with lupus in my life too. I'm going to share Matt's findings with her, maybe to give her one more bright side to work with. I'm so sorry to hear about your loss, at such an early age.

  • @trentrossdale638

    @trentrossdale638

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very sorry for your loss. :( ❤

  • @blahblah6497

    @blahblah6497

    2 жыл бұрын

    CBD would have helped and Monatomic Gold.

  • @seanfitzgerald341

    @seanfitzgerald341

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blahblah6497 its not a cure for severe autoimmune issues, FYI.

  • @seanfitzgerald341

    @seanfitzgerald341

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blahblah6497 its not a cure for severe autoimmune issues, FYI.

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache2 жыл бұрын

    As someone who took prednisone when I was as a kid, I was never informed that having blue sclera was a side effect. Kinda scary honestly.

  • @karanaher5030

    @karanaher5030

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have found you again

  • @pedrofromrio645

    @pedrofromrio645

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just remember being extremely hungry

  • @rabzy9591

    @rabzy9591

    2 жыл бұрын

    if getting blue eyes was a side effect. I would use it a lot.

  • @chillvader3435

    @chillvader3435

    2 жыл бұрын

    @suzan Wtf?

  • @danielsinger6081

    @danielsinger6081

    2 жыл бұрын

    How

  • @firefoe7222
    @firefoe7222Ай бұрын

    After the new hosts took over, I was honestly surprised to hear Matt's voice

  • @itz_kybrrr
    @itz_kybrrr2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I went and saw Dune a second time after watching it and it was worth the money. Amazing visuals and sound effects, the characters were well-played, and the storytelling was immaculate.

  • @ServantofBaal

    @ServantofBaal

    2 жыл бұрын

    My biggest thing about the movie is that you have to know a lot of the back story to fully appreciate it. I loved it, having been introduced to it over a decade ago. My roommate, having known very little of its existence, mostly could only enjoy the cinematics

  • @Galvamel
    @Galvamel2 жыл бұрын

    Fun Fact: The worm hunters of Dune are based on a Native American tribe of whale hunters. The spice could be an analog for ambergris. It's pooped/puked out, the natives had no real commercial use for it, but the colonizers found it incredibly valuable. Sounds like spice to me.

  • @bbittercoffee

    @bbittercoffee

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, except that the people from arrakis actually do have a use for it, a religious one.

  • @jonokai

    @jonokai

    2 жыл бұрын

    This would have been soooo much more entertaining. Prednisone is not something you can take in high doses without having serious problems and the whole 'water retention' thing he's talking about? Well, that's not exactly a good thing and can lead to serious problems like peripheral neuropathy, even limb loss int he extreme cases. I can't believe MatPat's falling this far....

  • @ayoubwehbi

    @ayoubwehbi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonokai he did say that water retention is bad, but that for this story and planet and living conditions it was perfect.

  • @jonokai

    @jonokai

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ayoubwehbi So you've never had family deal with edema. Got it.

  • @gamerstheater1187

    @gamerstheater1187

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not actually surprising when I think of it

  • @zaulpander
    @zaulpander2 жыл бұрын

    Paul didn‘t lose his sight due to spice over-use. He lost the soft eye tissue from a stone burner a type of weapon used in an assasination attempt.

  • @joshuabivens5825

    @joshuabivens5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    I doubt he read messiah

  • @primalzacama1867

    @primalzacama1867

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was coming down here for this lol

  • @Valaskurai

    @Valaskurai

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I had to stop the video to make this comment. Glad to see someone beat me to it.

  • @LtCaveman

    @LtCaveman

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's getting everything wrong. No one even cares if they're accurate, just MONETIZE

  • @cyrussmith4744

    @cyrussmith4744

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that sounded weird to me, because there is no mention of Paul losing his sight before the stone burner scene either, so its pretty clear that he went blind because of the stone burner and nothing else

  • @ArinJager1
    @ArinJager1 Жыл бұрын

    one flaw in this theory: if it was just a chemical substance, it'd be possible to synthesize it in a lab, so, no need to risk on Arrakis, or the dependency on (and dangers of) the sandworms would be necessary... I think the _melange_ is alive (a microbe) AND parasitic... the plankton, the trouts, and the worms are, essentially, the spice itself (like literally), these stages are merely forms the melange (whatever it really is) takes... _but that's just a theory, MY theory_

  • @user-fb7uv7yk3x

    @user-fb7uv7yk3x

    Жыл бұрын

    actually further in book series they synthesised it and at first it gone wrong and killed many people and then worm-emperor aka paul’s grandson prohibited any further research BUT when he died and created like new species of worms tleilaxu invented the way to make it for themselves in bodies of their women BUT they were like wiped out AND arrakis was blown up by group of gesserit-like women anddddd the author like died or whatever soooo there’s no more information about it

  • @elipse371

    @elipse371

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-fb7uv7yk3x but that’s after a long, long, long, long time. For a very long time, the only source of the geriatric spice was the worms

  • @MiyuwiTV

    @MiyuwiTV

    Жыл бұрын

    in the dune encyclopedia, there was a chemical formula though

  • @elipse371

    @elipse371

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MiyuwiTV the dune encyclopedia’s canonicity is extremely questionable

  • @MiyuwiTV

    @MiyuwiTV

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elipse371 true lol

  • @SpikeyKactus
    @SpikeyKactusАй бұрын

    I always associated the spice to oil - oil is extremely valuable because you need oil to produce energy and the world would grind to a halt without it

  • @grahambraham7054
    @grahambraham70542 жыл бұрын

    "Man, sneaking a Ryan George reference is going to be difficult" MatPat: "actually its gonna be super easy,barely an inconvenience."

  • @Dragoninja26

    @Dragoninja26

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah, I was very surprised but happy

  • @nadia_is_a_idiot2497

    @nadia_is_a_idiot2497

    2 жыл бұрын

    How did I miss this in the video

  • @sonicmaestro

    @sonicmaestro

    2 жыл бұрын

    MattPat must've found some spice, because his jokes were TIGHT

  • @orgywithpigs6

    @orgywithpigs6

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow wow Wow

  • @Duchu26

    @Duchu26

    2 жыл бұрын

    Referencing Ryan George is TIGHT

  • @SomeTomfoolery
    @SomeTomfoolery2 жыл бұрын

    My only problem with the claims of this video is Paul's blindness. His blindness has no connection at all to the spice. It's caused by a device that goes off that is designed to blind people.

  • @shaalamarln

    @shaalamarln

    2 жыл бұрын

    if memory serves me well, it was a mini-nuclear explosion and he looked at it

  • @ScaryBaldMan

    @ScaryBaldMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was called a Stone Burner, and it was an atomic-based weapon that skirted the Great Conventions prohibition against using atomic weapons against a population. It emitted something called J-rays that caused blindness in anyone exposed to them.

  • @milohobo9186

    @milohobo9186

    2 жыл бұрын

    I came here to say that, I'd rather upvote your comment than make my own.

  • @NatsuDragneel-bx2qm

    @NatsuDragneel-bx2qm

    2 жыл бұрын

    His eyes literally rotted out of his head in the second book because of the fast acting eye cancer

  • @richardmoore5347

    @richardmoore5347

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just read the appropriate section in Dune Messiah. Stone Burners are atomics, yes. It has a propensity for burning eyes out to look at it, but nothing about it being targeted, or about eye cancer. His eyes were gone by the time he returned to the palace to see Chani.

  • @niloljk7884
    @niloljk78842 жыл бұрын

    The spice was created for the book to represent oil in our real life. We all have become so dependent on oil in our day to day lives, the same way spice is essential for all progress in the dune universe. But a fun tidbit is that frank Herbert actually based his spice off a real life spice and it’s not a pharmaceutical drug but it does have psychedelic properties. Nutmeg. The most fought over spice with the highest human body-count for any spice in the world. Didn’t see that coming did ya. Ps: nice try if you thought salt would be the most fought after spice. I did too

  • @kadyliang5646

    @kadyliang5646

    2 жыл бұрын

    This! It's pretty clear that spice is a direct allegory for oil! It comes from the desert, originates from animals and is the main fuel for transportation in universe. He just added the psychedelic element because, you know, the 60s.

  • @theneoreformationist

    @theneoreformationist

    Жыл бұрын

    But that's just a fact, A historical fact.

  • @DevilMaster

    @DevilMaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm going to exclude that on the basis that Erowid does not mention one single case of people getting hallucinations off nutmeg, and instead a whole lot of people getting in pain, sick, nauseous, getting seizures and palpitations.

  • @toasterroast7678

    @toasterroast7678

    2 ай бұрын

    Salt is a mineral though.

  • @MaryRevery

    @MaryRevery

    Ай бұрын

    I was thinking something like saffron

  • @Healthtymento
    @Healthtymento8 ай бұрын

    I don’t know how you research the contents of the books enough to know Paul goes blind, but not enough to know that he’s blinded by an atomic weapon, or that the explosion burns his eyes out entirely and he’s walking around as a weird, eye-less corpse-looking dude for a while.

  • @tuckernutter

    @tuckernutter

    5 ай бұрын

    Because he doesn't read, he's a talentless youtuber for 12 year olds lol. We made a mistake coming here, friend. Come, let us go to Quinn's Ideas.

  • @Sovreign071
    @Sovreign0712 жыл бұрын

    To add, "melange" can also mean "variety." That's right. The most lore-dense acclaimed sci-fi book series is a setup for a pun: "Variety is the spice of life."

  • @unfortunatelyafangirl9587

    @unfortunatelyafangirl9587

    2 жыл бұрын

    Frank Herbert got everyone with that pun

  • @jeffsampson5822

    @jeffsampson5822

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very good, I like this. But I can guarantee that my writing, which has elements of science fiction, has more lore than Dune. But you did not know that until now, so you do not have to go to Gulag.

  • @unfortunatelyafangirl9587

    @unfortunatelyafangirl9587

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffsampson5822 they said Acclaimed Sci-Fi book

  • @DocBree13

    @DocBree13

    2 жыл бұрын

    😆

  • @LtCaveman
    @LtCaveman2 жыл бұрын

    As usual, NO ONE that covers Dune understands the Navigator's Guild. They don't do calculations, they literally see the future. They see the future where they don't fly through a star and get to their destination. And then they do that.

  • @MonochromeTrouble

    @MonochromeTrouble

    2 жыл бұрын

    So it's more like Dr. Strange seeing millions of possible future outcomes?

  • @DemitriVladMaximov

    @DemitriVladMaximov

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MonochromeTrouble bingo.

  • @MonochromeTrouble

    @MonochromeTrouble

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Tobias John If that's all there is to it, yeah, seems pretty straightforward.

  • @santiagocavanagh

    @santiagocavanagh

    2 жыл бұрын

    This! Also it's the Mentats who are trained since they are children to be living computers, and theydont use spice.

  • @7Seraphem7

    @7Seraphem7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@santiagocavanagh Yeah, he's clearly mixing the two up. While the Mentat's do have their own special little drug in Sapho Juice, it's not related to Spice in anyway, and is basically just super coffee mixed with aderol

  • @X-SPONGED
    @X-SPONGED2 жыл бұрын

    2:00 Mat : "And chair dogs. You heard that right, dogs that are also chairs" People who watched GF "Weirdmageddon" : "Oh No ! Anyways..."

  • @critter_core
    @critter_core Жыл бұрын

    I remember the blue thing! I recommend “why blue in nature is so rare”, if you want a deeper insight about the color blue in general! It’s super interesting!

  • @RanWorksHD
    @RanWorksHD2 жыл бұрын

    It’s a mélange - a mixture. It’s gotta have some DMT in there. DMT occurs naturally as an analog and sometimes as a precursor to Tryptophan, it looks quite similar to spice, it is a strong hallucinogen that has been shown to have some anti-tumerogenic effects, and neurogenic effects, along with reliably producing prophetic, spiritual, and religious experiences, resulting in a long-term change in personality. Also it could actually be plausible that some long-dead megaflora released pockets of DMT throughout Arrakis, after being crushed by millenia of pressure and heat. Also, people frequently refer to DMT as “The Spice.”

  • @stevenbobbybills

    @stevenbobbybills

    2 жыл бұрын

    And who knows, maybe there's some actual cinnamon, or at least something similar, in there for the flavour.

  • @billedefoudre

    @billedefoudre

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stevenbobbybills yeah, or a chemical compound smelling like cinnamon. Reminds me of scientists finding out the most common protein chain you can find in outer space and gaz nebulae is also the same one responsible for the taste of raspberries (or something along that line), meaning... space tastes like rasberry, mainly. Blew my mind. Wouldn't be surprised prednisone and DMT protein chains share that kind of "taste like..." property. xD

  • @Caedus696

    @Caedus696

    2 жыл бұрын

    Found Joe Rogan's alt account.

  • @ahmetasilli1947

    @ahmetasilli1947

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was lookong for the Joe Rogan comment. I am complete now.

  • @ulurag

    @ulurag

    2 жыл бұрын

    yup, its probably DMT

  • @DocBree13
    @DocBree132 жыл бұрын

    I have been treated for autoimmune disease since 1999 and recently noticed the periphery of my iris has turned blue… thanks Mat Pat! Making an appt with my doctor ASAP!

  • @colinminter7571
    @colinminter75712 жыл бұрын

    Paul lost his sight from atomics in the books, not from spice. While the blue eye theory makes sense, it's not what causes blindness in any of the Fremen

  • @ScaryBaldMan
    @ScaryBaldMan2 жыл бұрын

    One of the side effects of spice melange is addiction - once you start taking it, you can't stop or you'll die. So if this stuff is an enhanced form of alien Prednisone, and your body's immune system becomes dependent upon it, then that would make sense. If you stop taking it, your immune system can't cope and you die. I do feel I have to point out that Paul's blindness is not caused by exposure to the spice. It was caused by a stone burner, an atomic-based weapon that emits something called J-rays when used. It is those J-rays that destroy the optic tissues and cause blindness.

  • @MunkyDrag0n

    @MunkyDrag0n

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually, no. The immune system will start to regain function once the prednisone is stopped, but stopping suddenly after taking large doses or taking it for a long period is still a horrible idea. Prednisone withdrawal happens because cortisol in the body becomes too low. Symptoms include: lethargy, aches and pains, nausea, and dizziness. It isn't commonly lethal if treated, but in the harsh environment of Dune you could easily die if the impairments prevent you from being at your best.

  • @whyyaskkwhyy

    @whyyaskkwhyy

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had the same thought about Paul's blindness

  • @anx137y5

    @anx137y5

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah, addiction, the other things, and y'know, seeing the godamn future

  • @QilleWolf

    @QilleWolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you mentioned the blindness being caused by the stone burner. Just read that part of the book a while back and actually said out loud “Uh… did his eyes just melt?” Lmao

  • @keithnorris6348

    @keithnorris6348

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a medical fact " you can't stop or you'll die. " also applies to food. Which despite bringing about a question of lawful or unlawful has escaped the attention of mankind.

  • @stevethegeckotv
    @stevethegeckotv2 жыл бұрын

    The spice doesn’t affect Paul’s eyesight nor does it make him go blind. In Dune Messiah he is affected by a radiation based weapon caused a Stoneburner which destroyed his eyes. I literally just finished that book.

  • @TheLukeFalcon

    @TheLukeFalcon

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can second that. I remember vividly Paul losing eyesight becasue of (basically) staring into a nuclear explosion. I don't know what Wiki Matt read to get this bogus info :/

  • @andersoncampoverde1922

    @andersoncampoverde1922

    2 жыл бұрын

    Idk know much about dune

  • @WayStedYou

    @WayStedYou

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was gonna say, what is he talking about lmao

  • @Focusbreak-Habeeb

    @Focusbreak-Habeeb

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was just gonna type that xD

  • @patrickcraig6989

    @patrickcraig6989

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct. If the spice had been the cause of Paul’s blindness there would have been a lot of blind Fremen.

  • @Solarusdude
    @Solarusdude2 жыл бұрын

    The other consideration that you forgot to mention is the spice’s rarity and difficulty to synthesize. I can’t imagine Prednisone being that difficult to produce.

  • @LibraryOF_Alexandria
    @LibraryOF_AlexandriaАй бұрын

    I love you making sense out of things that wasn't even supposed to make sense!

  • @danieldenmon5006
    @danieldenmon50062 жыл бұрын

    The human computer thing doesn't come from the spice. It comes from the Mentat training that was developed after computers were outlawed, long before the spice was discovered by the galaxy at large. And it's a product of the sand trout, which is a larval form of the sand worm. That whole ecology is kind of weird as the sand worms have three distinct phases in their lives, but they cycle through those phases, over and over, and the larger sand worms actually feed off of the tiny sand trout, which would grow into sand worms later in life, if they don't get eaten.

  • @MeganThompson_anime

    @MeganThompson_anime

    2 жыл бұрын

    even in the first part of the book, the dune section, when they are going after the spice farmer thingy to get the people out, Kynes answers one of Paul's questions that is basically just 'so they always come? do the worms have anything to do with the spice?' even before he realized his terrible purpose thing. Thought it was such an obvious red herring to something when I first read it but remembering it now, it all comes together

  • @WillKrause21

    @WillKrause21

    2 жыл бұрын

    The mentats I think also use spice as part of their training, just like the B.G. use it for their truthsense. But that was always unclear to me in the books, I know they also use Sapho.

  • @hiphopchild9540

    @hiphopchild9540

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@megiddoeubanks read the books......

  • @ianvarney2112

    @ianvarney2112

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@megiddoeubanks the Guild Navigators have a limited form of prescience, which allows them to safely fold space.

  • @helojoeywala6622

    @helojoeywala6622

    2 жыл бұрын

    bro what are u saying, mentats are literally humans who have eaten a large amount of spice but they have a secret recipe/method of the way they absorb the spice into their body which is not the same as just eating it normally.

  • @isaiahdeleon2508
    @isaiahdeleon25082 жыл бұрын

    Here’s an interesting one: in the scene “The Coneheads”, Mr. Conehead used a camera that left scorch marks on the wall of the house and burn marks on their daughters date. How powerful was that camera, and could a human actually survive it?

  • @zZGreat_SleeperZz

    @zZGreat_SleeperZz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why are all of your replies bots?

  • @herrtituswinslow4717

    @herrtituswinslow4717

    2 жыл бұрын

    The frick are all these bots from

  • @GODOFAWSOMENESS1

    @GODOFAWSOMENESS1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting.

  • @e4ehco21

    @e4ehco21

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why are there like 30 bots

  • @xindonglin5815

    @xindonglin5815

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zZGreat_SleeperZz why is there sm today😭

  • @shinyskitty3671
    @shinyskitty36712 жыл бұрын

    I showed this episode to a Dune-book-reader. They had these points to say 1. In the books, the spice doesn’t ‘Float’ out of the sand, it bubbles up from gas underneath to make piles (the ‘Spice Blows’) 2. He didn’t go blind from Sun/blue eyes, he went blind from radiation poisoning after he got too close to a stone burner 3. It’s not their poop, it’s their dying exhalation-like they drown to make the spice. They don’t poop it out 4. They also liked the movie 👌

  • @UnhingedNova1934

    @UnhingedNova1934

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I had to stop watching because pretty much everything he said about the books was… wrong. Which is a shame because I was really excited when I saw this theory.

  • @brandonwheeler2226

    @brandonwheeler2226

    2 жыл бұрын

    The spice isn't the dyeing breath of the worm, that's the water of life, the spice comes from the sandtrout cycle.

  • @lrdfang

    @lrdfang

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brandonwheeler2226 This! Spice is actually the remains of the worm, itself. When a worm dies the sandtrout that make it up are released back into the sand, which then eat some material in the sands of Dune, and form a new worms. This causes the spice blow which expels the spice to the surface, the blow then summons old worms to the vibrations allowing them to absorb the excess sandtrout, and grow larger.

  • @spacebfsbby
    @spacebfsbby2 жыл бұрын

    Hey a manga named toilet bound Hanako kun is becoming pretty popular recently, the fandom would be very happy if you were to do a theory on how it would end or possibly the yugi twins.

  • @strawberrymilk3265

    @strawberrymilk3265

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes plsssss!!!

  • @ShortHax
    @ShortHax2 жыл бұрын

    I guess the women addicted to Dune’s spices are called Spice Girls

  • @HappyTheHuman

    @HappyTheHuman

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Keebe The Kirby plush i agree

  • @HappyTheHuman

    @HappyTheHuman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sad, its such a good comment

  • @brady50429

    @brady50429

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Keebe The Kirby plush yeah they are out of control wow

  • @inkjustink4936

    @inkjustink4936

    2 жыл бұрын

    That spice is so hot it is so spicy isn't it

  • @minase246

    @minase246

    2 жыл бұрын

    I guess that's what the Bene Gesserit are...

  • @hatguyfan22
    @hatguyfan222 жыл бұрын

    YEEEEESSSSS A DUNE THEORY. I unexpectedly *loved* that movie more than I thought I would. The costumes, the actors, the vibe of the world.

  • @sombramemer1230

    @sombramemer1230

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was a snore fest.

  • @LtCaveman

    @LtCaveman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get ready for a completely wrong video about it then.

  • @tokumei_llc

    @tokumei_llc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Go read the books, or if you'd like there is a another KZreadr on here called "Quinn's Ideas" that does in-depth reviews of content pertaining to the entire series. Complete with actual segments from the books. Many of them are extremely in-depth, and even get into topics that require an extensive knowledge of the entire story Cannon, universe, and even extended content such as video games, card games, and other sources of media Associated to the series.

  • @dodobean7620
    @dodobean76202 жыл бұрын

    gotta love seeing my favorite film parody channel, including clips from my *other* favorite film parody channel(s).

  • @buglover7400
    @buglover7400Ай бұрын

    Just watched dune foe the first time last night and here I am obsessed watching everything on youtube 😅

  • @jacekkulinski4414
    @jacekkulinski44142 жыл бұрын

    So I just started reading the books a little bit after they announced the new movie im just starting the last book written by Frank Herbert. So here are some things that don't line up. Some SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!! 1. Paul does go blind in the second book. But its from a outlawed super weapon called a stone burner. The scene talks of massive heat melting his eyeballs and of those near him young and old. 2. Spice doesn't make you great at math. That's becoming a "Mentat". Basically a human computer not created using spice. And thats not what "guild navigators" do. They plot a course trough space by basically seeing the future using spice and knowing what's a safe option because they have this limited ability to see in to the future(Not as big as Paul who is a mentant and a future seer/oracle/prescient). 3. Lady Jessica never had any delirium what so ever her daughter had it do to something called aberration and having the memories of her ancestors in her before having any memories of her own. The movie gives you a very different picture of jessica then the books. No where near as calm and collected as a bene gesserit is supposed to be. 4. The personality change comes from the sad ability and hopelessness of seeing the future. Multiple mentions of Paul and latter his Son The God Emperor Leto II being bored of and becoming disconnected because of this the latter especially.(Side note the son of Paul is one of the most amazing characters written imo and for Warhammer 40k fans you will see the inspiration for the emperor of mankind). So over all even though I don't disagree with the theory and its conclusion. The points made are based on missinformation or more so just reading it on a wiki out of context and not understanding how some thing happened.

  • @devalous8281

    @devalous8281

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was actually going to mention the Stone Burner melting his eyes but you already mentioned it

  • @J8keM0ney

    @J8keM0ney

    2 жыл бұрын

    one correction, I believe, it was atomic radiation, that especially affects optical tissue, from the stone burner not heat.

  • @rainestormed

    @rainestormed

    2 жыл бұрын

    This. A hundred times this. Spice and glare didn't blind him. Radiation and heat did.

  • @fromization1

    @fromization1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, there's so much misinformation in this video even though it's meant to be a joke. Making it somewhat hard to take as such. Just one correction though, Alia didn't do to something called aberration she was more susceptible to becoming an abomination (i.e losing yourself to you inner egos/personalities) from birth compared to a "regular" individuals with such power.

  • @tokumei_llc

    @tokumei_llc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Matpat has all his information completely skewed, and it's very clear he hasn't actually read the books. Just the first six books alone, completely paint a different picture than what he has outlined here. I suspect that he skimmed through it, and didn't actually take the time to digest what he was reading. While the theory of Prednisone being in the spice is very possible, it is not the only biological agent within the spice that causes the aberrations that people suffer from. But merely instead, one of many, hence the name "Spice Mixture". I suspect that Herbert intended it to be seen as a cocktail of pharmaceutically engineered , and biologically engineered chemicals, that over time became byproduct of the worms themselves through careful manipulation by the Bene Jesuit Sisterhood and another unknown undisclosed party that even Leto II could not discern.

  • @7Seraphem7
    @7Seraphem72 жыл бұрын

    Few things get quite as frustrating here as when MatPat comes so close to having some good points, and just over focuses on trying to make something fit a specific talking point rather then just see what the data could mean on it's own, and when he gets some pretty major and basic fact wrong. Paul didn't go blind just from being out in the bright desert, he went blind due to being too close to, and looking right at, what was essentially a nuclear powered road flare the size of a building. And trying to force this into a 'this is just prednisone but with some added sci-fi stuff just, feels like trying to hard to make the spice something it simply isn't, as yeah it does have these other properties, and is made in a very different fashion with a lot of other things that don't add up. Yet, the fact so much does fit with it is itself worth looking at for how Spice works, and to establish that while clearly not Prednisone itself, it could very well be some form of corticosteroid similar to the drug, and examining how that could work out.

  • @gabrielsalesmartins

    @gabrielsalesmartins

    2 жыл бұрын

    The fact is simples: on the books, you discover that the Spice is nothing but refined sandworm poop, and that the spice when diluted on water can be either poisonous (for common humans) or psionicly powerful (like with paul or the bene gesserit sisterhood), so yeah, MatPat is again just ignoring data just to git on his theory

  • @thejestor9378

    @thejestor9378

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gabrielsalesmartins pretty sure he is focusing mainly around the movie rather than the books.

  • @NOLA-vv3sz

    @NOLA-vv3sz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thejestor9378 Except he is using examples from later books like Paul going blind (though getting the cause completely incorrect).

  • @markuscreates5032

    @markuscreates5032

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gabrielsalesmartins Everyone can use the spice, afaik, think of the millions of Fremen alone. I think what you mean is the "water of life", which is spit out by a dying Bringer (baby sandworm).

  • @Yungwolfo

    @Yungwolfo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fr i didn't understand why he made this video like spice was a hidden resource that wasn't explained in the books as being sandworm poop

  • @teatimerem3508
    @teatimerem3508Ай бұрын

    4:43 that’s kinda beautiful in a way though because the idea of me having direct connection to someone’s brain feels romantic in the least creepy way possible 😂

  • @carrotylemons1190
    @carrotylemons11902 жыл бұрын

    Doesn’t Paul lose his eyes from a atomic stone burner?

  • @ajsneedles7036
    @ajsneedles70362 жыл бұрын

    I started reading the series a year ago when they announced the movie last year. Since then I've read the entire series 3 times (I'm on my fourth time right now). I am now beginning a read-through of a bunch of prequel lore books its awesome to see more people who love this series as much as I do. it is also disappointing to see a lot of people who only see dune as a Star Wars knock-off and not the Star Wars inspiration that almost got star wars sued. To me, the Dune universe is better but that's an opinion. I'd love to start a group that also shares a love for the dune universe where we can discuss a bunch of unanswered questions. Dang y’all really blew this one up😂

  • @VikingMale

    @VikingMale

    2 жыл бұрын

    Try E.E. Doc Smiths Lensman series

  • @AndrewSWTN

    @AndrewSWTN

    2 жыл бұрын

    When you say entire series are you taking about the 6 original books or the additional 2 his son made as well? I also did the same as you and have fallen HARD in love with the Dune books

  • @foodfairy4546

    @foodfairy4546

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fine fans do not consider any of Brian’s books canon. He has bastardized his father’s work for $.

  • @a2pabmb2

    @a2pabmb2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AndrewSWTN They've written a lot more than just the 2 to finish the original

  • @brokengames9020

    @brokengames9020

    2 жыл бұрын

    In [dys/u]topia people ride addiction waves and chase fiat dragons. Therefor people live within a stimulation.

  • @Selcryn
    @Selcryn2 жыл бұрын

    MatPat, you also forgot that the spice is officially so addictive that the addiction is what extends life. The body and mind get so addicted they will defy death and aging in order to keep getting it.

  • @xcyoteex

    @xcyoteex

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol, no, that's not anywhere in the books. You have no idea what you're talking about.

  • @jtfbreedlove

    @jtfbreedlove

    Жыл бұрын

    Not it's just really addictive with not a lot of negative side effects.

  • @spiralunity
    @spiralunity2 жыл бұрын

    I wanted this exact video, thank you

  • @ominouscandle4169
    @ominouscandle41692 жыл бұрын

    MatPat is one of the best theorists on KZread and yet he still can't pronounce Zendaya's name correctly

  • @xenocide1307

    @xenocide1307

    Жыл бұрын

    He clearly didn't read the books either

  • @theaza_azide
    @theaza_azide2 жыл бұрын

    "If you've seen dune the movie, dune the old movie, dune the book..." People who played dune the videogame be like:

  • @MrAlopex112

    @MrAlopex112

    2 жыл бұрын

    sad Ordos player noise*

  • @AdiiraKuro

    @AdiiraKuro

    2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly sounds like "Spaceballs T-shirt, Spaceballs colaring book, Spaceballs cereals, Spaceballs the FLAMETHROWER!!! Children love those."

  • @NicoBabyman1

    @NicoBabyman1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me: * Laughs in Frank Herbert's Dune and Frank Herbert's Children of Dune miniseries. *

  • @shaunleslie4143

    @shaunleslie4143

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrAlopex112 You have contributed one unit of spice to house Ordos...

  • @PulsefiredGaming

    @PulsefiredGaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    dune 2 and dune 2000 was my jam

  • @detectivestudios7699
    @detectivestudios76992 жыл бұрын

    No! Paul didn’t loose his sight because of the Spice, in DUNE Messiah there was an attempt to assassinate him by blowing him up and he got blinded in the explosion.

  • @fernandoiturbide9109

    @fernandoiturbide9109

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was looking for some to confirm this, thanks

  • @naolmstead

    @naolmstead

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't it specifically a nuclear blast that he stared at that blinded him?

  • @djcochrane

    @djcochrane

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which if you think about it, makes the movie even insaner, considering all the shields active and idiots firing lazguns like crazy.

  • @blacksun3920

    @blacksun3920

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@naolmstead it's referenced as a "stone burner." The way I always interpreted it was small-scale nuclear weapon. It wasn't big enough or with enough radiation to destroy the city but it was big enough to cause a devastating bright explosion at the site it was set up.

  • @djcochrane

    @djcochrane

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blacksun3920 Yeah. And freman culture basically is "Blind? Be gone! Into the desert with you."

  • @chloeevans1928
    @chloeevans19282 жыл бұрын

    more pitch meeting collabs please! 🧡

  • @strawberrymilk3265
    @strawberrymilk32652 жыл бұрын

    you should make a theory on a manga called toilet bound hanako kun plsss!

  • @spacebfsbby

    @spacebfsbby

    2 жыл бұрын

    YESSSSSSSSSSS

  • @stevenvallarsa1765
    @stevenvallarsa17652 жыл бұрын

    I love how you can pull these filaments of possibilities into something real. But being a Dune geek of the original six novels (I won't get into what I think of other novels), I have to point out that even though you did mention you were going by the Dennis Villeneuve version, you did mention something that happens in the second novel (and third movie, if Dennis and the studio are willing to close out the Paul story arc - but not really since there's a character that appears in the third novel that may or may not actually be Paul, not to be spoiled here), that Paul's blindness has nothing to do with the spice and all due to a Stone Burner nuclear device being detonated near him, a side effect being it melts your eyes. Okay, late-60's sci-fi weird. But since Paul has prescience, he can function as if he still had eyes as he can see the future a moment in advance. Due to his prescience he knows he has to suffer this fate for the events to play out along the Golden Path, even though he's too chicken to make the ultimate sacrifice, leaving it to his son, who Paul's prescience didn't inform him would be born. Remember that. It's important for the remaining novels :)

  • @Leo-hk6qg

    @Leo-hk6qg

    2 жыл бұрын

    exactly!! the comment i was looking for

  • @tokumei_llc

    @tokumei_llc

    2 жыл бұрын

    And that's exactly it; matpat references content from the other books, that has no bearing on the first movie, and then makes references that are not actually accurate. If we're going to do a analysis based on the spice only on what is perceived in the movie, that's one thing. But when we make bold statements about the spice and use references from other books, and then fail to understand just what exactly the spice is, what it's capable of, or how you get things like Navigators, mentats, or even how it affects various types of cognitive abilities, arguably even influencing the Bennett Jesuit Sisterhood, something matpat did not mention, which is actually referenced in both the first book in the movies; it starts to become a question of how much research did he actually do, and how well did he understand the topic, the details, and each of the pieces he references before making the Theory?

  • @MrTindall

    @MrTindall

    2 жыл бұрын

    Need to insert that gif is Homer yelling "Nerd!"

  • @stevenscott2136

    @stevenscott2136

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tokumei_llc Remember, Matt is entertainment. If he was super-dedicated to perfect accuracy, he wouldn't be making half the videos he does.

  • @Tanvir_Ahmed_Earth

    @Tanvir_Ahmed_Earth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ayye 1....2....3!!!

  • @aventurasdemais8261
    @aventurasdemais82612 жыл бұрын

    2:50 I did not expect a special appearance by Ryan George!

  • @Cipher_Paul

    @Cipher_Paul

    2 жыл бұрын

    Referencing other channels is tight!

  • @millyboop2047
    @millyboop20472 жыл бұрын

    7:23 euphoric... like euphoria one of zendaya's other series

  • @gamingguidrys5676
    @gamingguidrys56762 жыл бұрын

    omg if you did a theory on the toilet boud hanako kun manga i'd be so happy!

  • @tallestgir
    @tallestgir2 жыл бұрын

    Matt Patt, I love the enthusiasm. It's fantastic that you are in this fandom. But you REALLY missed the mark on a couple of lore points. Example: The Spice didn't impact Paul's eyesight at all. He goes blind in the second book because he looks at the explosion of a super weapon that emits a radiation that melts human eyes.

  • @djmaydraws3862

    @djmaydraws3862

    2 жыл бұрын

    And spice also doesn’t make the average person hallucinate. Paul is unique he was already having visions before the spice

  • @marcodavi777

    @marcodavi777

    2 жыл бұрын

    fremen actually consider blind people defective and the penalty for blindness is death (exile in the desert, I think). so yeah, dune lore was kinda butchered in this one, but I guess that was not the point

  • @djmaydraws3862

    @djmaydraws3862

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@spacedandy. more like because of genetic manipulation by a greedy sorority of space ninja witches

  • @WillKrause21

    @WillKrause21

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@spacedandy. The whole point is that he's a false-messiah, a product of genetic and sociological manipulation by the B.G. over millennia to create what Paul and later Leto II are.

  • @ooi97

    @ooi97

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for this comment! I remembered he looked directly at a nuclear explosion or something similar, don't remember exactly, it's been 12 years

  • @galehunter2519
    @galehunter25192 жыл бұрын

    Something I just want to mention. You don’t have to necessarily be addicted to spice in order to have the blue eyes. Spice basically gets everywhere on Arrakis, it’s in the air you breathe and the sand that you walk in. You’re exposed to it so much, that in about a few years of continuous living on Arrakis, your eyes will turn blue.

  • @DemitriVladMaximov

    @DemitriVladMaximov

    2 жыл бұрын

    While close, at that point you are addicted. See spice saturation at that level means that you can't ever leave Arrakis without taking Arrakis with you because your body physically needs the spice and if you don't get it then you go through withdrawals that are almost always fatal.

  • @kght222

    @kght222

    2 жыл бұрын

    actually in the original few books one of the side comments is something about once you live on arrakis you must take a part of it with you everywhere you go, in reference to the fact that all people who live long term in the desert are addicted to the spice.

  • @NPCinSchool
    @NPCinSchool2 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a Mandela Catalogue explained video pls? Love ur channel

  • @NexeL_NKC
    @NexeL_NKC2 жыл бұрын

    I watched Dune in theaters, wow it was a cool movie. Certainly high level storytelling, as not a lot is explained verbally, rather everything important is shown to you and left for you to figure out. I love Dune's universe, it's just so cool. Also its pedigree is insane, being one of the inspirations for Tatooine in Star Wars is certainly nothing to shake a stick at. I can't wait for part 2. Also, watch the replies to my comment be Lou Lou and all the other s*x bots. I'm watching you.

  • @Content_Deleted

    @Content_Deleted

    2 жыл бұрын

    You called it lmao

  • @javancelette

    @javancelette

    2 жыл бұрын

    You called it dude but where tf are they coming from?-

  • @mechasaure9801

    @mechasaure9801

    2 жыл бұрын

    yep u were right

  • @Narra0002

    @Narra0002

    2 жыл бұрын

    They are so annoying

  • @gwell2118

    @gwell2118

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it’s pretty cool. Except for the stuff surrounding shields. It’s stupid if you start thinking too much about it.

  • @drashna
    @drashna2 жыл бұрын

    Paul doesn't go blind because of spice usage, but because stone burners, which are basically radiation bombs, and specifically damage your eyes. Check and mate⸮

  • @dogge4649

    @dogge4649

    2 жыл бұрын

    woah

  • @weldonwin

    @weldonwin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Matt has a long history of making comments like this, where he doesn't seem to actually research the fiction he's doing a theory on

  • @legolast.spencer6979

    @legolast.spencer6979

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@weldonwin he & his team could of done the research & just missed it, from a mix of it being a variy long story, & thus easily missed how it happened, to the fact that his show has always been using media as a vehicle for teaching vs the other way around.

  • @joshuabivens5825

    @joshuabivens5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah bro, it makes me think he didn't even read the books

  • @monkeyskater105

    @monkeyskater105

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but in Matt’s defense the freman once blind are exiled. Telling us that it’s happens quite often.

  • @SoniasWay
    @SoniasWay2 жыл бұрын

    On a side note, Dune is one of the most visually spectacular movies I’ve ever seen

  • @speakenglish5662

    @speakenglish5662

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wowww kzread.info/dash/bejne/eIeHqMmQnKfIerg.html….

  • @CaptainCat101

    @CaptainCat101

    2 жыл бұрын

    Really? To me, it looks like another Star Wars. IT'S NOT BAD, just not the most interesting visually.

  • @cablewaffel7957

    @cablewaffel7957

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CaptainCat101, I thought this spectacularly outdid any Star Wars movie, but to each his own.

  • @shoot_game718
    @shoot_game718Ай бұрын

    5:51 Paul's blidness has nothing to do with UV. He was exposed to a stone burner (type of atomic) which essentially made his eyes melt out of their sockets.

  • @kaitlynkuz
    @kaitlynkuz2 жыл бұрын

    Ahh loved the Ryan George reference!!

  • @RoseJetExhaust
    @RoseJetExhaust2 жыл бұрын

    But Paul's blindness is caused by a powerful weapon, a stone burner, which released radiation that destroyed his eye tissue, not by heavy spice intake.

  • @spencer6207

    @spencer6207

    2 жыл бұрын

    EXACTLY

  • @yaroslavpanych2067

    @yaroslavpanych2067

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shuh, don't tell him that. Let him embarrass himself even more for not doing home work properly.

  • @poelmeister

    @poelmeister

    2 жыл бұрын

    Technicalities Heathen

  • @RoseJetExhaust

    @RoseJetExhaust

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yaroslavpanych2067 Humans make mistakes. If you have not read the books there will be a lot of research required, which takes time and effort. MatPat does not have to answer to me for this mistake, I merely wanted to point it out.

  • @synthisyde

    @synthisyde

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Tleilaxu sold many eyes that day.

  • @LokelyConed
    @LokelyConed2 жыл бұрын

    I really love the vfx in Dune, the way they made the glass dust look like sand because it was filmed in slow mo was a much better choice then doing it digitally

  • @codesetdoggo

    @codesetdoggo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @let's watch ! nice self promo

  • @codesetdoggo

    @codesetdoggo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Squid Game 2.0 in my channel nice self promo

  • @codesetdoggo

    @codesetdoggo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @C H A R L O T T E 🌹 nice bot

  • @CubicApocalypse128

    @CubicApocalypse128

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@intanmayasari932 Bad robot, bad! No thermal paste!

  • @Wolfpack7000
    @Wolfpack7000Ай бұрын

    Okay, so as a Dune fan who has read all the books (the main 6 at least) I thought I should just correct a few things in the video real quick (spoilers obviously): At 1:58: You show children of dune when talking about the birth of Leto II, but he was actually born in Dune Messiah, and also was not invisible. (Paul wasn't able to see him because at that point Paul was blind, and Leto was prescient meaning that Paul could not see him through his prescient visions.) At 3:12: You say that Spice floats to the top of the sand, this is also not fully true. Spice formation ends with an explosion that scatters the spice across the desert sands, which is why it's found at the top of the dessert, it has nothing to do with density. At 3:41: You say that spice exposure can lead to vivid hallucinations, again not necessarily incorrect, but not fully correct. It's mostly just that Paul starts seeing the future at that point. At 3:55: You say that spice allows for super-fast calculations that allow for navigation. This one is actually the only one that was completely wrong, firstly it's not long exposure, but rather high exposure at a very young age that allows for this, and secondly they aren't making calculations, what they are actually doing is folding space in on itself and then jumping from one point to another like a worm hole. When talking about blue eyes: Spice actually causes the eyes to turn blue over long periods of exposure for a variety of reasons, the main one being that the spice itself is blue (at least in the books) and more specifically spice essence (which is very important to the Bene Gesserit, and Kwizrach Haderach ) is blue and drastically changes the functioning of the brain, essentially the blue pigment is actually blue pigment and not a lack of melanin. At 5:55: You say that the spice and sunlight of Arrakis is what caused Paul to go almost blind, he actually went fully blind after being attacked by a what is essentially a nuclear fusion core, and the radiation didn't just make him go blind it actually just completely burned out his eyeballs. (I kinda hope they don't show this in the movie) At 10:56: You state that spice causes Euphoria, it's actually quite the opposite, to the point that the Bene Geserit call the use of spice essence "The Spice Agony," also in the part that you are showing on screen at that time Paul is basically having a panic attack. At 11:01: You state that the spice was the reason Paul's personality changed... No. I don't even want to explain why this one is wrong because that's pretty much the entire point of the second half of the Dune book, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune. At 11:05: You state that the spice causes Delirium, again not really. It's more that the effects of the spice (Being able to see through time and connecting with your ancestral genetic memory[this one is only true of the spice essence]) cause the delirium not the spice itself. And One final thing That I couldn't put anywhere because it's not really a correction and just a guess, however I'm like 90% sure that the melange part is a reference to the Vienna Melange which is actually a type of spiced coffee (this would especially make sense because of the constant references to coffee in the first dune book.) Overall though this video was really good, despite the lore inaccuracies, I hope you make on on Dune Part II!

  • @lucag.b.5994

    @lucag.b.5994

    Ай бұрын

    Hey, i just came across your comment and was quite happy to see so many of the misunderstandings beeing clarified. I am a little confused about your critique of 3:55 though. I always thought, that the space folding tech of the holtzman engine is completely unrelated to spice but they use the (spice induced) prescient abilities of a guild navigator to plot a safe course. The navigators are not exactly calculating, but rather looking into different versions of the possible future to make sure nothing happens to the ship. But i don't think he is completely wrong about this one. Or did i mess anything up?

  • @dantedetoussaint209
    @dantedetoussaint2092 ай бұрын

    Videos hit different now. Now that Mat is no longer the host.

  • @crypto1223
    @crypto12232 жыл бұрын

    “They’re not exposing each other to their germs.” That scene where the Fremen making camp collectively spit into a coffee machine.

  • @Yungwolfo

    @Yungwolfo

    2 жыл бұрын

    it was coffee service lol plus wouldn't the boiled spit be safe once its boiled off/converted with the device

  • @crypto1223

    @crypto1223

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Yungwolfo Correct, but it is still spit. Not that that it bothers them what with some of their water is from their processed dead.

  • @axelmationz
    @axelmationz2 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for Dune: Part 2!

  • @thedraftingax5963

    @thedraftingax5963

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here with my dad and I!

  • @Tacowise
    @Tacowise2 ай бұрын

    Cant wait to watch Dune part 2

  • @stevenrichardbarnett
    @stevenrichardbarnett2 жыл бұрын

    Mat… I love you and your theories are so well-researched. But this makes it so much worse when you get a detail, especially a major one, incredibly wrong. Paul didn’t lose his sight due to desert exposure; he lost it because his eyes were burned out of his head due to radiation exposure from a “stone burner”- an Old World “atomic” weapon that gives off radiation that specifically ruins eye tissue when it runs. An event, by the bye, that takes place in the 2nd Dune novel, Dune Messiah.

  • @xenocide1307

    @xenocide1307

    Жыл бұрын

    The dude couldn't be bothered to pick up the books and reading them for making a video for clicks. Kind of pathetic to be honest.

  • @blazingstarx137
    @blazingstarx1372 жыл бұрын

    Paul goes blind in the books, not from his spice usage, but because he was exposed to the flash of a nuclear weapon, which from the description, made me think his eyes actually popped, but his prescience of the future was powerful enough that he didn't need eyes

  • @Merennulli
    @Merennulli2 жыл бұрын

    You are confusing blue and gray eyes here. Yellow-brown is from pigment, blue is from structures in the iris that scatter light, green is a mix of both and gray is the lack of both. If you start green and lose pigment, you may get blue, but if you start with brown and lose pigment, you get gray. You can also lose blue to get gray, which is what my eyes did. As a child my eyes were blue, but as I got into adulthood they got less vivid and became opalescent. The confusion you stumbled into is because of that opalescence causing many with gray eyes to be mistaken for blue or green. For Dune, it's an additive effect, not a subtractive one. In all versions it's a vivid blue, and it's usually depicted affecting the sclera also. There is a sclera tattoo that some have gotten to replicate the look with pigment, but in real biology you can get yellowing of eyes from chemical deposition in the sclera and iris, as well as other parts of the eye. Dune blue eyes are likely some chemical being deposited there. Colloidal silver notoriously causes bluing of skin when abused, so it's not without some level of precedent.

  • @DreadnoughtHvor

    @DreadnoughtHvor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not only that, but he never lost his vision from Spice. He lost it to a nuclear device in the second book.

  • @Merennulli

    @Merennulli

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DreadnoughtHvor Yep. The "Stone Burner". I didn't comment on that part because I haven't seen the new movie and wasn't sure if they'd changed it to have his vision degrading or something.

  • @MorrisJoshua26
    @MorrisJoshua26 Жыл бұрын

    I just started watching a lot of Pitch Meetings. This one popped me good.

  • @gjohnson7907
    @gjohnson79072 жыл бұрын

    Having just seen the movie in theaters a couple days ago this was really cool

  • @neppyneppynepu
    @neppyneppynepu2 жыл бұрын

    Went to see this with my dad. Didn't enjoy the original so i had low expectations But it was amazing

  • @catvanbrian9470

    @catvanbrian9470

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello fellow nep fan

  • @arianewinter4266

    @arianewinter4266

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it really playes in a whole nother league than former screen adaptations ^^

  • @GranWarlorckEnmaryu

    @GranWarlorckEnmaryu

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@catvanbrian9470 ah yes it is good to see that our kind (Nep fans) are still strong

  • @eeveebrosstudios
    @eeveebrosstudios2 жыл бұрын

    I can’t get over the fact that he mispronounced Zendaya’s name 😭 1:10

  • @pgwasilewski
    @pgwasilewski Жыл бұрын

    Chronically suppressed immune system not only means lower immunity to infections, but also much higher rate of neoplastic tumors, especially when exposed to such massive UV light - this is the reason that the Fremen wouldn't statistically live longer and healthier than people not exposed to spice.

  • @544stu1
    @544stu12 жыл бұрын

    Do something on the monument mythos or happy meat farms arg they are both very interesting

  • @cassandralyris4918
    @cassandralyris49182 жыл бұрын

    As someone who's experienced Prednisone psychosis I can verify that it is exactly 0% fun. I dread the possibility of my doctors even considering asking me to go back on it.

  • @justfellicitya
    @justfellicitya2 жыл бұрын

    I'd love it if people who are hot to cover Dune to get views on YT would actually learn the lore first. Paul didn't loose his sight to spice, he lost it to a stone burner aka type of atomic device. But thanks to the spice and his kwisatz haderach prescience, he can function as if he can still see, because he's seen the future. (many futures, actually)

  • @Whyyyyyyyyyyyy552
    @Whyyyyyyyyyyyy552 Жыл бұрын

    the games, specifically the ones made by Westwood studios are fun games

  • @JamesJohnson-iq5wb
    @JamesJohnson-iq5wb Жыл бұрын

    Matpat, the ozone in the atmosphere of arrakis acts not only as a powerful greenhouse but also gets rid of UV light which would prevent much of the eye damage. It would also give every one of the characters a severe vitamin d defficiency

  • @TheNetherLord5240
    @TheNetherLord52402 жыл бұрын

    I had been on prednisone since I was 8, treating a disease called Systemic Juvinile Idiopathic Arthritis. I got off it 3 years ago, and I can most definitely say I got the ‘Prednisone High’ I read the labels of everything I saw, everything. I definitely had mood changes, however being in denial of them. Anger, frustration, and not really caring about others’s feelings were a few of them. I was on it because basically SJIA is a Autoimmune condition where your own immune system fights back on your joints, tendons, muscles, and because of the Systemic part, my organs. I had to take HIGH amounts of Prednisone to weaken my immune system so I could actually walk. No joke, I had tablets at breakfast before school, and dinner before bed. I even had infusions of it every month, and cortisone injections in my joints. The only thing that was not mentioned in this theory was that it caused me to feel hungry at the strangest times, sometimes waking up at midnight to eat a bowl of spaghetti. I am so thankful I am off it, and happy that I can share my story.

  • @user-il9ij5wx3n

    @user-il9ij5wx3n

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you don't have to take it anymore!

  • @vurviinovi
    @vurviinovi2 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna be honest, i didn't understand the movie, probably because i had no idea there was stuff before the most recent movie. i just started watching the video, i hope i get to understand it better now!

  • @glennsworldofbrickfilmsand7624
    @glennsworldofbrickfilmsand76242 жыл бұрын

    Happy New year

  • @Showtunediva
    @Showtunediva7 ай бұрын

    Loved the Dune book. Have not seen the movie yet.

  • @PatrickLeger
    @PatrickLeger2 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t not expect to see Prednisone, a medication that this Crohns Disease survivor knows very well, in a Film Theory. Matt, you and your team make fantastic videos. I love you show and learning while laughing keeps me watching with my family. Thank you and happy holidays to your family.

  • @jeffsampson5822
    @jeffsampson58222 жыл бұрын

    4:00 As someone with blue eyes who has done much research on melanin, I very much enjoyed hearing this part. I have fair skin, blue eyes, and brown-red hair, so in terms of melanin, I have some but less than many. Bow down to your low-melanin superior, you peasants.

  • @pastorTracy911

    @pastorTracy911

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m not even gonna touch this one

  • @Squiggly6942
    @Squiggly69422 жыл бұрын

    Whomever edited this video deserves props. Very funny.

  • @myamotley693
    @myamotley6932 жыл бұрын

    I NEED you to do some theories on arcane

  • @qq-bu2pz
    @qq-bu2pz2 жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy that Game Theory content is getting back into it, I've felt like for a while it's been filler but now that the quality content and stuff like these videos are coming back I'm taking more interest

  • @DecisionsRQuestionable

    @DecisionsRQuestionable

    2 жыл бұрын

    630 (Yep)

  • @Salvationman51
    @Salvationman512 жыл бұрын

    In relation to Children of Dune: there was no invisible children born. There were a pair of children born, but due to the interaction of prescience (essentially precognition) and one of the children being born prescient, they were "invisible" to the others prescient views, but could easily be seen with the naked eye.

  • @Chrono_crest

    @Chrono_crest

    2 жыл бұрын

    More then likely he skimmed through the books, which is kind of a big no no, in a series like this. There is to much details that can and will be missed if you do that.

  • @kpl-CA
    @kpl-CA2 жыл бұрын

    Totally sharing this with my Immunology peeps 🤣 Prednisone (& other corticosteroids like Dex) notoriously taste *horrendous* There's literally nothing you can do to mask it effectively, especially for Pediatric patients. I doubt cinnamon would do it, and cinnamon in large amounts causes blisters. The worst off are patients who need oral corticosteroid treatment with EOE/EGID who have to swallow a sludge of prednisone & artificial sweetener, to get the medicine in contact with their throat - stomach. And they can't rinse it off. Prednisone at high doses also causes massive weight gain, insatiable hunger, insomnia, extreme agitation, emotional turmoil, and makes patients miserable. (BTW, it's often used in Cancer treatment too). Personally... always thought it was a metaphor for Saudi controlled O&G. 🤷 But this theory is fun!

  • @anx137y5
    @anx137y52 жыл бұрын

    btw, one ay to interpret the spice being called melange is a play on words, as melange can mean variety, so, as the melange lengthens human lives, it can be said that variety is the spice of life.

  • @Elijah-rh1ob
    @Elijah-rh1ob2 жыл бұрын

    You can really tell he didn’t really learn about the dune books because he says paul went blind from spice. He lost his eyes from a nuclear weapon thing in the second book

  • @Yungwolfo

    @Yungwolfo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mat[at kinda sucks for doing research and not just google and random wikis

  • @sleeby4226

    @sleeby4226

    2 жыл бұрын

    He said he’s only focusing on the new movie version tho

  • @Desertdweller1965

    @Desertdweller1965

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was called a Stone Burner.

  • @Elijah-rh1ob

    @Elijah-rh1ob

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Desertdweller1965 yeah thanks I forgot what it was called

  • @DialecticRed

    @DialecticRed

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Yungwolfo Yeah, I remember I used to defend him until he got to one of the fandoms I was involved in. Anyone who knows the Hollow Knight lore knows what I mean 💀 can still be fun to watch tho

  • @redpolscorp
    @redpolscorp2 жыл бұрын

    As someone with a chronicically inflammated intestine I can this as true. I got the activated part, prednisolon, and experienced a lot of those effect. Funnily enough... Thanks to that my once hazel-green eyes have a greyish blue hue since I had to take the meds.

  • @DocBree13

    @DocBree13

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s crazy - I have hazel eyes that are turning blue and I’d never heard of this before. Kind of cool to hear about someone else like me. (I’ve had RA since 1999/take prednisone)

  • @_AR_editz
    @_AR_editz2 жыл бұрын

    Please make a video on explaining the sonic timeline

  • @alwaysapirateroninace443
    @alwaysapirateroninace4432 жыл бұрын

    So glad to hear somebody just happily gushing about a movie.

  • @jacobambos3885
    @jacobambos38852 жыл бұрын

    Good work! This reminds me of the experiment where researchers made Egyptian beer based on an ancient recipe and relict grain. The beer produced low levels of natural tetracycline, which would have fought infections without the Egyptians even realizing it.

  • @momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085
    @momomomocensoredbyyoutube90852 жыл бұрын

    I love that you're going into this theory blind. It's hilarious to listen to you make up theories that I already know are wrong. I do like seeing you be so creative too. Keep up the great entertainment MatPat.

  • @devnol
    @devnolАй бұрын

    As a Greek, I've always referred to the spice as Crocus Kozanis (aka Saffron) because it looks like it, is super expensive and it's only produced here in Greece. Doesn't get you high but its rarity and price are akin to it.

  • @Wolfpack7000

    @Wolfpack7000

    Ай бұрын

    I've always seen it as a stimulant, kinda like caffeine. Mostly because of the Vienna Melange, which is spiced coffee.

  • @iownornot1
    @iownornot12 жыл бұрын

    Skye blue eyes makes alot more sense now not only are they the same color but also the exact same way. very cool

  • @nicky3192
    @nicky31922 жыл бұрын

    *impatiently waits for No Way Home theories based on the official trailer*

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