When you are accustomed to privileged, equality feels like oppression.

@volgg

Жыл бұрын

Preach.

@InternetArbiter

Жыл бұрын

@@marciestoddard730 Women are not required to perform military service. Same thing in the United States, but every male is required to register for the draft.

@minchoulbang7430

Жыл бұрын

I think politicians on both men and womens side try to instigate hatred on both young men and women.Sure women in their 20s in korea live a pretty shitty life. But so do men. But if the young people are busy fighting each other over gender, the older privileged class can quitely secure their interests.

@Feministslayer2019

Жыл бұрын

A true Giga Classic.

@Feministslayer2019

Жыл бұрын

@@marciestoddard730 90%of the hard labor done by men. and most who died from the most dangerous jobs in the world are men. all born equal.

That "mens rights activist" going to a womens rights event, being rude to women he's recording, and then saying that the women he's upset are "too emotional to have a conversation" is classic gaslighting bs.

@user-oj9ed2it9i

Жыл бұрын

it was so clear what he was doing!!! laugh in his face. the insecurity seethes out of him

@LoneWulf278

Жыл бұрын

Happens every time. Unfortunately, it works. 😒

@npcsenpai1185

Жыл бұрын

Just incels angry at women.

@ActiveAussie2024

Жыл бұрын

He was right. Women can never base any decision on logic. It's all emotional BS, or just self serving nonsense. Women view average men as disposable commodities, workhorses, nothing else.

@bogusmcbogus2637

Жыл бұрын

I saw the same video you did. When was he acting rude. Maybe something was lost in translation. He was asking straightforward questions.

She said what's your greatest fear and this man really said 'gender equality'

@makara2711

2 ай бұрын

thank goodness only asian and white women are against child-bearing because of feminism and that arabs, indians, and africans all love traditional family value and making big families. soon the asian and white countries will be filled with indian and african immigrants, what a happy world, and islam will also prevail as the ultimate religion of the human race nice work natural selection

@starsandnobodys

2 ай бұрын

No two humans are equal. If one gender says they demand equality to the richest, did they earn it? That sounds like privilege

@Melancholymadness62

2 ай бұрын

Gender equality is a distopian concept. Men and women have privilages in their respective niches. Meanwhile gender equality is possible only when one gender costs equalising the other gender.

@Melancholymadness62

2 ай бұрын

Gender equality is a distopian concept. Both gender have their own privilages in repsective niches. Meanwhile gender equality is possible only when one gender costs equalising the other gender.

@bolshevikapologist9957

Ай бұрын

​@@starsandnobodyswhat

The ministry of gender equality is the one responsible for the declining birth rates? I lived in SK for a few months, and every guy and girl I talked to said that they can't even begin to imagine thinking of being married and starting a family when rent alone has doubled in the past 5 years, while wages have stayed relatively the same and the job market has shrunk because of covid and global economic downturn. It seems to be the exact same problem in japan. Maternal leaves are a bit of a joke, paternal leaves are unheard of You have to pay a fortune to live in a tiny apartment in a major city. Imagine trying to do that with kids and a spouse. In this day and age, even two incomes in some countries/cities aren't enough to raise kids. Maybe if these governments addressed that, they would be able to raise the birth rates atleast a bit

@NathanRuhl

10 ай бұрын

Gender equality is just a cog in the machine of the Globalist agenda my friend. This kind of economic instability is happening all over the world in order to weaken countries' ability to sustain themselves. Japan was the first to fall.

Is feminism dividing the country, or is it the refusal to treat people equally?

@thatgurl__

Жыл бұрын

👏💯

@diehardernxgt2161

Жыл бұрын

You have to work equally hard to be treated equally.

@thewiskeredcat9157

Жыл бұрын

@@diehardernxgt2161There have been several comments here that mention how because of the increasing economic inequality gap in SK, many families can no longer afford to have only one bread winner of the house. Because of this conundrum, women are left with societies traditional role of caring for the kids and tending to the house etc, while also having to now work several jobs to keep everyone’s head above water financially. So, I would say both men and women in that position work just as hard as each other, and deserve basic needs such as equal pay and everyone, not just these admirable ladies, will benefit.

@marcusinfinity9386

Жыл бұрын

Dividing the country. Like it doesn't everywhere else

@user-ew3dm1jq6j

Жыл бұрын

It’s dividing the country. Modern feminists are a joke and cannot be taken seriously.

And the government wonders why there's a declining birthrate

@Andrea-1998

Жыл бұрын

The world’s overpopulated a little anyway

@AbuBased731

Жыл бұрын

@@Andrea-1998 *In Africa *In india *In china

@fireball_7209

Жыл бұрын

@@Andrea-1998 yes, the world is overpopulated but in many countries, it’s predicted that the elderly will outgrow the workforce. This is very dangerous for countries as they have less people working and more people to sustain. Japan is currently starting to face this problem and many other countries will as well.

@MicahRdr

Жыл бұрын

@@Andrea-1998 so let every country that isn’t black or Indian die then ? What dumb logic is that

@doobervallard

Жыл бұрын

Because of what? You see, even countries with the best gender equality, countries like FInland, Sweden, and Denmark still experience a declining birthrate within its native population

The fact that they already felt sexually harassed when a woman bring up toilet etiquettes shows exactly how they've never been sexually harassed before.

@hazelcrisp

4 ай бұрын

These men are pathetic

@undergroundxp

2 ай бұрын

What are you even talking about? When did the men say they felt sexually harassed? Why would you lie about such a thing?

@meonk_holicc32

Ай бұрын

​@@undergroundxp did you watch the video?

@skn3098

Ай бұрын

They never said they felt sexually harassed when that femi-nazi was going crazy about toilets.

@Prinouisse

25 күн бұрын

@@undergroundxp 12:24

love that the political guy completely dodged the question regarding his own country & was like "looky looky those other countries are worse so look there" like just bc your country isnt *that* bad doesnt mean that ppl cant want it to get better in their home country

@SynWasHereYo

4 ай бұрын

He won. cope

@hjk9934

3 ай бұрын

He is one of the most disgusting slime ball in Korean politics. He has been pandering to male, and quite often, incel gamers even though his party is all in to exploit young generation.

@Kindhcv369

2 ай бұрын

He lost lol

@Kindhcv369

2 ай бұрын

In fact there are no winners

@hjk9934

2 ай бұрын

That politician is one of the worst opportunist in Korean politics. He was the textbook far-left turned far-right so as you can imagine he has blind support from incels. The irony here is, his party is hellbent on exploiting young generations which, of course, include that said incels.

Why are podcast bros literally the worst in every country? We need background checks on podcast mic purchases.

@LoneWulf278

Жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

@eksbocks9438

Жыл бұрын

Because they're addicted to clout.

@tpeterson9140

Жыл бұрын

ik but its better if no one listens to them. freedom of speech is important even if ur stupid.

@leahozhantortune771

Жыл бұрын

Background check? What are you? Authoritarian?

@frankieslittlemonster132

Жыл бұрын

@@leahozhantortune771 It was a joke. Calm yourself.

If you asked that politician about global warming, he would probably say "compared to Venus, we are ok, we should look at those planets first".

@brinistaco1970

Жыл бұрын

hilarious, indeed. Worry about your country or maybe you should go to Iran? Deflection is a great way to not answer a question.

@ffqas5714

Жыл бұрын

Global warming isnt real

@doobervallard

Жыл бұрын

I get the message, but that analogy does not reflect what the politician was saying.

@NotTodaySatan557

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

@meneguzzi1978

Жыл бұрын

How does it not? He was asked on how South Korea's treatment of women compare to other countries and he went to the absolute extremes (Iran and Afghanistan) to make it look good.

The fact that they called them freaks when the women asked them to be more considerate and civil in public/unisex spaces and then when the women are offended by it they act like they didn't do anything wrong and the women were too emotional and couldn't hold a conversation . If you want to have a respectful and honest conversation with someone may be start by not calling them names and instead try see from the other person's point of view.

@KingKoopa1

11 ай бұрын

Why are there unisex bathrooms in the first place? Why should men change what we do simply because women don't like it? Why should we allow women to dictate our behavior based on their emotional state?

@samsalamander8147

10 ай бұрын

That man went to that rally with the intent to disrupt and embarrass woman and he only made himself look like a horrible person.

@Eiko286

10 ай бұрын

The woman wasn't even being aggressive you can tell it was his own insecurities . He started telling people not be aggressive when they where only trying to add their opinions.

@kaydoeteccc7741

10 ай бұрын

And when i tell women to take showers, im a misogynistic creep

@vhopseok

10 ай бұрын

@@kaydoeteccc7741no no just a creepy weirdo at best but the societal expectations for women to be more hygienic than men is very true. don’t defend anything this guy said

It’s not feminism what’s splitting the country, it’s sexism

@LordRykard9376

Жыл бұрын

It's feminism.

@johnjack2260

Жыл бұрын

​. Absolutely

@f0gGenx

Жыл бұрын

It's idiotism.

@1VIP1daniel1VIP1

Жыл бұрын

True. Women can vote but can’t be drafted in a war. Sounds pretty sexist to me.

@jhonklan3794

Жыл бұрын

men are literally drafted are oyu insane.

Basing your comparison on treatment of women against Afghanistan or Iran isn't a very high bar, Mr. Korean diplomat.

@austkeat

Жыл бұрын

He’s pointing out countries that actually treat women unfairly. But I suppose when you think everything that doesn’t work out perfectly is just you being oppressed, then real oppression being experienced elsewhere doesn’t really move the needle for you.

@armartin0003

Жыл бұрын

@@austkeat Nobody said they think that "not perfect" means being oppressed. But we do want to establish a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, promote general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.

@Reeeeeee12345

Жыл бұрын

​@armartin0003 lol. Your ideals got me labeled a creep and harrasser of women even though I never did anything wrong. It was women who actually " harrassed" me. They are the ones who were kinda relentless in their flirting. Funny how at the end of the day, the thought of them being creeps or harrassers never seems possible in the minds of people, but with me, an innocent man,- it's on record even though no such evidence exists. All you gotta say is " he makes me feel uncomfortable. ". That's a weapon women use against men unjustly.

@baeyensraphael3902

Жыл бұрын

@@armartin0003 "estalish justice, insure domestic tranquility, promote general welfare, and secure the blessings of lierty to ourselves and our posterity" just to be clear, those are common issues found in feminism? I'm just wondering, what privileges do men have over women, as in, something that a man is guaranteed to enjoy, that a woman cannot, in modern societies? Talking about north america, europe, etc, basically anyplace where women have the same rights as men.

@ishmamahmed9306

Жыл бұрын

If he was going to play whataboutery, he could have pointed to North Korea. I wonder what that says of his opinion about the rights of women in North Korea?

When one is so used to privilege, equality/equity feels like oppression.

@globalzox

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the equal 30% pay gap... the highest of any developed nation. So privileged they are.

@lpk6372

Жыл бұрын

But it's not equality/equity cause there is still a hierarchy those men will get theirs and go on as usual most of this are men who couldn't compete in any of these times. It's affirmative action from loser men.

@pasta-and-heroin

Жыл бұрын

@@globalzox what?

@SammyxSweetheart.02

Жыл бұрын

@@globalzox the ideal is that should be closer to zero

@eksbocks9438

Жыл бұрын

A lot of these guys who don't like feminists are just clout chasers. They see women who are upset. And they see this as an opportunity to harass them for fun. In their heart, they see women as inferior. Or as objects. And they've done this same thing to other men who aren't "macho" as well.

South Korean Andrew Tates. Now I've seen everything.

@pantamews

10 күн бұрын

There's Tates everywhere you go, you just cant find them cuz their too busy being sexist in their depressing little rooms

@rutgerhauser2377

6 күн бұрын

@@pantamews Most of these korean feminists are still living with their parents. It's one basement dweller yelling at other basement dwellers.

Yes, I'm sure that having a podcast complaining about women and harassing them IRL will bring harmony and make them want to "increase the population" with you. 🤔 The interaction with the woman who spoke about the showers and bathroom was one of the most insane instances of gaslighting I've ever seen. I thought she actually gave quite a lighthearted answer to NOT start a fight and then that stupid guy accused her of THREATENING him?? What the actual hell. I'm sure he thought he was "turning the tables" because he feels that women "over" accuse men, but it turned into just another instance of men harrassing women in a roundabout way.

@professionalrandommale

Жыл бұрын

Feminism cancer

@Ivana9910

Жыл бұрын

this. like it was totally a troll response. then she sounded more serious about the peeing with an open door thing. How comfortable do you have to be to do that without fear of getting assaulted by a weirdo while your junk is swinging around?

@aliciabasir

Жыл бұрын

I believe that Korea is quite different than the US. In the sense that in the united states you can insult men comfortably, harasss them and portray them as pigs, while in Korea, men are not willing to accept such non-sense. Beyond that, she is responsable for what she says.

@razzaman9023

2 ай бұрын

@@aliciabasirexactly. That is why women can give false allegations and not face any consequences when they are found not guilty. While the man has already been fired and name dragged through the mud.

@justicefora11

2 ай бұрын

That guy times 20million is South Korea. I'm fxxxx ashamed of those guys.

The fact that he thinks the woman telling men to take more showers and pee with the door closed is sexual harassment... I mean it wasn't a very intellectual statement but please, this man wouldn't survive 24 hours as a woman if he's insulted by that. Maybe talk again after you've been groped and threatened in public without anyone lifting a finger to help you. Or after you've been harassed by a coworker to the point you dread going to work. Then let's talk again about what sexual harassment is and who are the emotional ones.

@MsDragonbal776

Жыл бұрын

The guy was trying to prove a point about how easy it is for women to claim sexual harassment

@Clownk1ller

Жыл бұрын

?

@Clownk1ller

Жыл бұрын

Speak English please

@azmainfaiak8111

Жыл бұрын

​@@MsDragonbal776 exactly

@shashankke250

Жыл бұрын

I think there two aspects One is women actually going though it and other is a false claim. The one who committed should be in jail, but the false cases should be stopped.

Reporter looks low key pissed at this whole situation.

@maria-wu7us

Жыл бұрын

yeah I would be too. I would not have been happy with giving these men the light of day. These are the kind of people you cannot engage. I feel like there is nothing you can say to change their minds.

@andresmattos7541

Жыл бұрын

​​@@maria-wu7us feminism is cancer

@gunnermccormick3957

Жыл бұрын

Vice reporters unfailingly bring their bias into every single video they make. It’s just so obviously partisan that it turns off everyone who doesn’t already agree with their views, which creates an ideological echo chamber and further damages political discourse and divides our country.

@L16htW4rr10r

Жыл бұрын

I would do the same. Especially as the reporter you couldn't said your true opinion and piss them off

@cervmeup

Жыл бұрын

@@L16htW4rr10r she shouldn’t have been a reporter then F off

Your own sisters, mothers, daughters, friends, coworkers, and wives are telling you that they don't feel safe or have the ability to have the same quality of life that you do and you tell them to look at Afghanistan or Iran and say "at least your lives aren't as bad as theirs." 100% put my life savings down that they have never, and will never, care about what's going on with women in the Middle East. They'll use it to trivialize and ignore whatever issues you're speaking up about.

@pickyourlikeslulu

10 ай бұрын

yeah.. girls hear this so often from korean men and boys "if you feel unsafe then go to Africa Middle East and live as a slave you deserve it!!" too often

@berrymckockiner5883

8 ай бұрын

Lmao Oman and the UAE are the safest countries in the world. But you're complaining about not feeling safe, maybe ask yourself why those countries are safe

@Sociedadematriarcal

6 ай бұрын

Yeah they’re jealous of woman

@d7mf3j

4 ай бұрын

men are statistically less safe in most ways in most countries.

@jayc342009

3 ай бұрын

Imagine trivialising women's issues like that...kinda reminds me if how when men talk about their issues feminists dismiss them and tell them "cos patriarchy hurdurrr".

That man is a walking red flag, even the way he laughed after being called out… I’ve seen too many dramas to know exactly what that laugh means!

@Chawkes420

Ай бұрын

“I watched so much fictional media, it really shows how reality is! you dont have to be present in reality just watch more soap operas and K-dramas!”

@BonGaleti

Ай бұрын

​@@Chawkes420 for real bro 😂😂😂 that comment was really just ironic to read.

@rutgerhauser2377

6 күн бұрын

@@BonGaleti Imagine using KDramas to psychoanalyze people.

Sadly it's not South Korean women who think so too . I'm South African and I also don't want to get married. As some of you may have heard domestic violence in my country is very bad . It's so bad that women die daily from it. It's like why do I have to sacrifice my life so that I can make society happy and not benefit anything from it except bruises or maybe a coffin.

@yasminea7149

Жыл бұрын

Ok, but generally more ppl die in car accidents and we don't stop driving or riding cars. Why would you allow statistics or numbers to influence you to such a level, you refuse to marry if you wanted marriage?

@Lolita2.0

Жыл бұрын

@@yasminea7149 I know the violence. I grew up in it and I live in it. Maybe you where lucky enough to not experience it but some of us have seen the pain it causes. My grandfather did it , my father did it, my uncles did it and my aunts live it. It's the phone calls my mother gets when my uncle has beaten his wife and everybody is doing nothing about it. It's the news reporter talking about the woman who was burned alive by her partner or maybe the other one who was stabbed to death. I believe you must now get my point. I chose not to get married because of the trauma I have. I have nothing against marriage. Most my friends talk about it and guess what, I support them. It's not about the statistics or whether you can die from a car accident or a robbery. For me it's about taking a decision to spend my life without a partner because I can not offer what is needed or take what is given. I hope this answers your question 🙂

@jeghetersoojeong

Жыл бұрын

@@yasminea7149 imagine there's a box with a hole and you don't know what's inside. Someone tells you it might have dangerous bug in there or it could be just empty inside. The chance is 50/50. Would you put your hand in there 'hoping' there is no danger when you can simply ignore the box? And why should women put their hands in there when they have a choice?

@smossnektery7581

Жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for women in your country

@mignonnesilva4306

Жыл бұрын

@@yasminea7149 What kind of illogical response is this?? Dying in a car crash and dying at the hands of an abuser are very different things and not a point to be compared on. A car crash crash is an accident most of the time, domestic violence is on purpose.

This poor woman.. I can see the frustration in her eyes. I live here and am surprised this topic isn't covered more in mainstream media. It's a huge ongoing thing right now, and it's been going on for awhile now.

@blockraven22

Жыл бұрын

You can tell that they are afraid of being physically attacked. Korean men aren't afraid to physically assault others in a verbal dispute, especially those that they deem lower than them.

@yeeter1877

Жыл бұрын

@@blockraven22 Exactly. A lot of sexual assault cases there too.

@TerrorrLA

Жыл бұрын

She's supposed the be unbiased. Dog sh*t journalist.

@user-eh2hj8bx6i

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry. Women everywhere need to band together to fight for equality.

@nathanlevesque7812

Жыл бұрын

Some time ago I read that it was one of only four countries with more female murder victims than male ones. The global average is 4:1 male to female. Some problems are universal, but the degree of violence against women in South Korea is uniquely extreme.

as a korean adoptee, i know first hand how korean society views women. i learned that single mothers in korea are about the most stigmatized group of people in the country. theyre basically seen as 2nd class citizens, esp. compared to single fathers. to the point where they have a whole np organization dedicated to supporting them called KUMFA. since 1990, 90% of "orphans" in korea arent parentless at all. they simply have a single mother. and whether they were widowed or their husband left or they were just a boyfriend or fling or whatever, it doesnt matter. Even with abusive partners, they may encourage the woman to stay or get married to them if they have a child. if a women doesnt have a man around their arm, the child is viewed with disdain and oftentimes family relatives will sneakily take the baby when the mother isnt aware and secretly bring them to an orphanage where they're cut off from their family line forever. the mom can spend years and years desperately searching, but the baby is already overseas with new parents. and adoption agencies will straight up lie to couples that the child is an "orphan" or that the mother "wanted to give them a better life" when in reality, the child was basically trafficked. sometimes hospitals will even take the baby right after birth, taking advantage of the mothers state, and secretly bring them to an orphanage. and then if the adoptee wants to find the mom? well, too bad, because usually the child, if theyre on the family registry still, will have to go through the father to find them, since its a patriarchical system. and sometimes that father is reluctant to say anything or even admit the child is their dna child, like the case with Kara Bos in 2020. and then also oftentimes the mom cant see the child anyway because her new family will look down upon her for having a child out of wedlock.

@thaliabirrueta8456

Жыл бұрын

A while back, I read a graphic novel memoir of a Korean girl who moved with her mom to the U.S. during the 1990s because the stigma of single motherhood was SO strong in South Korea.

@MeidoInHebun

Жыл бұрын

Good. Single mothers destroy society.

@humancarver

Жыл бұрын

​@@MeidoInHebun ​ 'cause the fathers failed to parent and be there for their child? And that's somehow the mothers’ fault? 😂😂 Gimme a break fruitcake, you fail to initiate cogent arguments/points. ROFL.

@user-kb5nk6uf9g

Жыл бұрын

@@thaliabirrueta8456 title name pls?🌸

@coshvjicujmlqef6047

Жыл бұрын

Single moms are evil. No hymen no diamond.

5:11 classic case of gaslighting. This man is so emotional and sensitive. He should smile a little.

@7:55 Wait. So, not trying to put words in his mouth, but is he saying that the reason why they're abolishing the Ministry of Gender Equality and Family is because it's negatively affecting birth rate? In other words, they're more concerned about birth rates than women's rights?

@firecracker3911

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@k31than

Жыл бұрын

@@firecracker3911 😨😩

@CricketCentral321

Жыл бұрын

They don't care about women's wellbeing, only concerned with how many babies they can pop out - to keep the system going, more lending for banks, more people to sell diapers and baby formula to, more home/car loans, and so on...

@caitlyntoney5095

Жыл бұрын

Well yeah, same as in America.

@mikea5745

Жыл бұрын

"Birth rate" is just a convenient excuse to push through whatever policies you want. It's pretty clear this move will have the opposite effect though. Gender disparity is one of the driving reasons women are choosing not to have children

The North is going to fk them up if they keep up with this bs… 😂

@ILOVEJAPAN223

Ай бұрын

As a Korean(I hate that I am), I hope so

@the_kimchi_kommandant2603

Ай бұрын

@@ILOVEJAPAN223 Hiroshima and Nagasaki

@ILOVEJAPAN223

Ай бұрын

@@the_kimchi_kommandant2603 The only words you can think of with your brain cells

@the_kimchi_kommandant2603

Ай бұрын

@@ILOVEJAPAN223 Yes. 🗿🗿🗿

No! Misogyny is dividing it!

@Dev-qs2yb

2 ай бұрын

Embrace Misogyny! Curb your Feminism.

@ILOVEJAPAN223

Ай бұрын

Why are you ranting over hating women when you are not even one

So sad this mentality is growing globally. They said the women were emotional, that the interviewee was “angry, your face is up here,” but did they not say women asking for more rights made them feel shame, anger, humiliation? Seems emotional to me. The interviewee gave a thoughtful answer, just asking men to have civic awareness, ie how they present in public spaces. No personal attacks, just what women would like to feel safer. And that’s somehow an assault on masculinity. Amazing work vice, so scary to see the parallels with western gender discussions.

@bogusmcbogus2637

Жыл бұрын

She said they should shower. How is that a civil answer?

@DennisMoore664

Жыл бұрын

@@bogusmcbogus2637 Pretty low bar there, McBogus. These boys were there pulling the same crap Matt Walsh pulls about gender versus biological sex identification over here. They were there to be provocative and at the first opportunity act like the chodes they showed themselves to be, not have a civil conversation. And I don't know about you but I could usually do with a shower because I do stuff that makes me sweat and stink, so not all that uncivil of a request if you want your girlfriend to be happy so she'll make you happy.

@waiwai5233

Жыл бұрын

There needs to a balance line drawn. Left unchecked it will be eventually like the west when the coldness of the aircon is deemed sexist as it is too cold for women. The key is as a society where is the appropriate line. It is very easy feminism will turn into an elitist supremacy movement.

@Joshua-eo5hr

Жыл бұрын

The Taliban will win we will put you back in your place femoids.

@dclarke2179

Жыл бұрын

@@marciestoddard730 you make no sense as your answer.

Asking for equal rights shouldn’t be so hard

@tinetannies4637

Жыл бұрын

What you see right here in the comments is the proverb that "For those with privilege, equality feels like oppression"

@dave_riots

Жыл бұрын

You shouldn't even be asking for those rights. Complete autonomy should've been guaranteed from the start.

@BigVtheVanity

Жыл бұрын

The right to get draft to the military. Nice.

@Xaviergonzalez85

Жыл бұрын

My girlfriend went to an equal rights protest driving my car.

@atrumphasmatis6719

Жыл бұрын

@@MVGAactual so because women are generally weaker and more on the emotional side they shouldn’t have equal rights?

Telling people what they think is a classic mechanism for getting them angry and is not conducive to understanding them. This is not a conversation. It's purposely trying to anger them.

The politician used Afghanistan as an example😂 is the bar THAT low?? Like thats your standard bruh?

"I don't think anyone who thought about gender equality could say those kinds of things" said the man with the most boilerplate, unsophisticated, baby's-first-politics articulation of gender politics.

@notcharlie7107

Жыл бұрын

its a korean to english translation im pretty sure youre quoting, i wouldnt go off of how whoever is articulating

@naturalsoundsoftheworld

Жыл бұрын

I find this to be a very asian phenomena. Total diversion of blame because of the immense social pressure of shame and saving face. It's a catch 22, and I wonder how they'll solve that

@InternetArbiter

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalsoundsoftheworld Women are not required to perform military service in Korea, but the males are. Try living in a different reality you wee little baby

@Schoritzobandit

Жыл бұрын

@@notcharlie7107 Even grain of salt added for translation, I think even if the language itself was much more sophisticated, the point itself is not.

@austkeat

Жыл бұрын

Any comments on the woman at the women’s rally who said she just wants men to stop pissing all over the toilet and to close the door when they pee? Really sophisticated goals she’s seeking here. Sounds like she’s super oppressed.

OF COURSE HE THINKS THAT RALLY IS FULL OF EMOTION 😂

@kated3165

Жыл бұрын

Funny how its always the people who act the most out of emotion instead of logic and common sense, who are always the first to bash other people for being ''too emotional'' heh?!

@andy-pd7qo

Жыл бұрын

as if they didn’t start a movement solely because women advocating for womens right hurt their feelings.

@newhorizonsforfifty2833

Жыл бұрын

I guess when you try to gin up the emotion and then victim blame them for getting mad...

@snapsf

Жыл бұрын

He literally went to the rally because he was emotional. These are the same people claiming "men can't cry" but use having emotions as a bad thing and an insult to discredit what women are saying

@FeliCiaKyereme

Жыл бұрын

Right! Why separate Brain n hurt when they work together

I saw the Korean news today about the employment restrictions for short haired women. I hope that Korean women will be employed and paid without discrimination😢

@GaryHighFruit

5 ай бұрын

You could say ANY kind of person is being restricted. But the news chooses to highlight women. In south korea, * There are parking lots for women, * subway seats for pregnant women which are abused as women priority seat * There are pharmacy school that only women. This is sexist discrimination. All this oppresses men. There's a female quota system in congress, companys and much more.

@Riu-bw4bl

18 күн бұрын

@@GaryHighFruitok male, most of the “privileges” women have are a response to 1, companies refusing to hire women in the first place and even with these laws and rules women still get pushed out if the work place by men. Second, any parking lot, busses, space you just mentioned exists because men have a problem with a*sulting women literally everywhere. Womens trains and parking lots got introduced after cases of men harming and r*ping women in them at such a large scale women were given their own. Men are not victims of this s*it. Men are the problem of all these “privileges” if you or any man thinks what you just mentioned is discrimination then you have never been discriminated against in your life.

Title is a bit misleading. The issue isnt feminism. Its Korean men's refusal to give Korean women the respect they deserve.

@jairajsinghshaktawat6593

3 ай бұрын

They don't deserve any, the birth rates have plummeted

@hitto8863

3 ай бұрын

If its like dat,i would like to be friend whit korean men!!!

@Kur0miiiii

3 ай бұрын

THIS!

@Kur0miiiii

3 ай бұрын

@@jairajsinghshaktawat6593That's on the males. If they treated women with respect and care they wouldn't be declining.

@jayc342009

3 ай бұрын

Respect is earned.

when she said "he's putting words in my mouth" exactly 😭 like they just went there to piss them off and then he started saying "don't use violence, don't threaten" when things got heated...... disgusting.

@whitey1253

Жыл бұрын

I am absolutely disgusted!! Especially considering how many violent crimes Korean MEN has done to WOMEN (Sex crimes, nth room incident etc). They have the cheeks to say such things proves that they are just privileged with no ability to hold a normal conversation.

@yolooo880

Жыл бұрын

FR

@celestialasmr9624

Жыл бұрын

Yeah those men were clearly trying to get a reaction from her, so rude. I bet they wonder why women don't respect them

@Changed.User100

10 ай бұрын

are yall serious, it seems like you just dont watch the video and instantly side with the women. Doesnt even hear what the men are saying and just say they are "misogynistic" 🤦‍♂

@kaydoeteccc7741

10 ай бұрын

​@@celestialasmr9624who cares about female respect

Those accustomed to privilege will often find equality oppressive.

@mangeshadbale4337

Жыл бұрын

My English is weak can you explain who is privileged please 😅

@frankieslittlemonster132

Жыл бұрын

@@mangeshadbale4337 Men are privileged. When women call out inequality they have been facing for years, men get upset because they don't want to admit that they have caused it.

@minnamandariini4843

Жыл бұрын

@@mangeshadbale4337 it hugely depends on who says the quote

@thesteelecrusader7778

Жыл бұрын

Because equality doesn’t exist in nature and therefore you have to force it through oppression of one group to make it level with another group. Same reason why we in the US have to lower our education standards for black students

@CB13212

Жыл бұрын

@@mangeshadbale4337 women

Do these south korean feminists also want females to enter compulsory military training? I mean, equal rights should also entail equal responsibilities right?

@zumazuma568

Жыл бұрын

usually feminists prefer conscription to not exist for either men or women, because being cooped up with just guys for a year in the atmosphere of a bunch of male stereotypes often messes with the brains of 18 year old boys.

@user-cw3dz3ls5q

Жыл бұрын

If conscription guarantees equal rights for women 100%, I will gladly accept it. But everyone knows that discrimination will continue for another reason even after women serve in the military.

@user-ty1cf9ko7e

Жыл бұрын

@@user-cw3dz3ls5q 나는 혁명 지도자 김정은과 함께 = 그가 페미니스트 헛소리를 진압한 곳 = 서구/유럽/미국/유대인 시오니스트-프리메이슨 헛소리

@jayc342009

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-cw3dz3ls5q you poor oppressed victims, cry a little harder please.

@Riu-bw4bl

18 күн бұрын

Men are responsible for the sexism towards women. The government is responsible for mens issues. Women do not at a huge scale assult and k*ll men. Men are not victims at a large scale by women. Get out of here lol

That guy who says gender control freak, yea this dude is the reason why people choose feminism

14:15 "My greatest fear, is that men and women lose their gender identities, and end up being identical apart from their genitalia." He just said the quiet part aloud

@swign7528

Жыл бұрын

Genuine question, what is the problem with losing gender identities?

@OliverNorth9729

Жыл бұрын

Men were blessed with immense strength. Men and women can never be identical.

@raafeyplayz7015

Жыл бұрын

@@swign7528that’s what I was wondering too

@KitchenTornado

Жыл бұрын

The point I was making was he contradicted his first half of the sentence. It isn't about sexism, he doesn't want equal rights

@user-ih8kr9nt7o

Жыл бұрын

@@OliverNorth9729 feminism and equal rights its not about making women and men "identical". It's equal rights.

as a Korean-American woman living in South Korea, this issue is a big reason why i don't know if i can continue to live here. so many deep societal issues. this is not to say other countries DON'T have similar issues, but the problems are huge here and we're so behind in so many ways.

@surveyor1515

Жыл бұрын

Why not just move to a Western country? Worry about yourself and let go of that sinking ship of a country, no offense..🤨

@testing-je7yz

Жыл бұрын

Islam is your solution. Not liberal athiest who have no idea between right and wrong.

@sidneyshaw9814

Жыл бұрын

Unless you have feral criminals running around and robbing family businesses, a corrupt government that kills its own people, and a brain drain... you really have no reason to complain, Miss.

@FloridaTrini

Жыл бұрын

America isn't that different, though. The FBI literally put red pill and other American misogynistic groups on its watch list recently because of the increase in gender based violence stemming from their rhetoric. There's a group that call themselves r@pecels that believe r@pe shouldn't be illegal.

@jewel7784

Жыл бұрын

@@vklnew9824 looks like you escaped the psych ward recently

Look at the facial expression of the interviewer when she is asking the questions. She looks like she wants to strangle him ahaha

Thank you so much for covering this vice! Very informative

@TheEverFreeKing

3 ай бұрын

Nah it's mostly Pro feminist propaganda.

@PeaxieCrochets

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheEverFreeKing it's an interview of "men's rights activists".

I remember reading that South Korea was one of only four countries where more women are victims of murder than men. The usual ratio is 4:1 male to female, which is also the global average. Bucking that trend by that much, was enough to know that they have severe gender inequality.

@tuckerbugeater

Жыл бұрын

i wonder why

@Reeeeeee12345

Жыл бұрын

​@@tuckerbugeaterlmao. Yeah, stpid roastess had it coming. 😂

@thatgurl__

Жыл бұрын

Only four countries where murder of woman is higher than men?

@hydra70

Жыл бұрын

Using the fact that women are murdered at a similar rate to men as a sign of gender inequality against women is certainly a weird take. The stats I'm seeing show 54% of victims as men and 46% as women, which is pretty close to what you would expect if there were no gender bias. How is a lack of gender bias in murder victims a sign of gender inequality?

@ddeok-kang

Жыл бұрын

That is a very bad reasoning. The reason why that happens is that the whole law itself is very weak. The max you would get for murder is insufficient compared to the US.

22 year old Korean male living in Korea here. Man I am glad this video came out to start showing people this problem exists in SK instead of the usual focus on Kpop and plastic surgery. I gotta say, seeing the disturbing messages sent to the female activist and what the male activist heard in the rally, just reinforces my point that South Korea really lacks a space for people to have proper discussions between two genders and the worst extermists of each side just goes to worsen the image of both sides which have reasonable motives behind their existence. People don't like to discuss these kind of topics offline, but even in an online space I feel that the discussions are so seperated by genders that no actual discussion is ever created. And yeah you can say the US also has the same problem but the movement for feminism, gender equality and the general discussion around the topic is more accesible compared to Korea. Another great piece of journalism by Vice. Also please leave any questions about my experience with feminism in Korea in the reply! I would love to have a good discussion about this topic. (again severly lacking lol)

@mikicerise6250

Жыл бұрын

I think South Korea has similar issues as the US, it is just in a more tense phase now. It is too new, and people haven't had time to become disillusioned with demagogues and simple answers.

@nataliad4378

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for sharing! When you say 'worst extremist from both sides' are you referring to the blond lady? She seemed really tame imo

@chexmix0101

Жыл бұрын

From the facts on this video Korean women get paid way less and more crimes against them and the right wingers saying “nah we want to keep it the same”. But thats asking to much from Korean males.

@masoodabidar

Жыл бұрын

I agree on lack of discussion on fundamental issues, which would help both sides see more clearly instead of focusing on petty remarks made by both sides that driving the two genders even further apart. Do you think korean men don't want to side with korean women because they feel that they're the superior gender? Men being superior to women exists in many cultures and I think that's one of the issues that drive gender inequality.

@oo--7714

Жыл бұрын

@TheDomi120 the whole scene petty petty stuff. I remember looking into this when I was a kid in 2017 and cringing. I'm suprised that the salt is still here, even after the site megalia died. Like whats the point, koreans protest about prety much evetything to the point where most protests are just joke. Like at this point I'm suprised how the whole feminism anti femisim stick is still alive and kicking when it should be dead in the water. The protest mean nothing and the anti feminist stick are just sad men with nothing going on with their lives. Like how this is even news I don't know.

Honestly the more ppl go against feminism the more radical i become

@user-se8cw3qw8p

Жыл бұрын

i saw somewhere an article about radical feminism and it said that the more women are opressed in this country the more radical feminism will become popular there. I think this actually make sense

@FamilyIsGone

Жыл бұрын

If you stay that way fine but don't complain when AI wife bots come out

@samuraijosh1595

Жыл бұрын

and the more radical the men become.

@samuraijosh1595

Жыл бұрын

@Black King more radical females would only encourage more radical men. Deal with it.

@izzieee3750

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraijosh1595 well.. I am going to say given the slide we are on how men have treated women for ages and how they get treated by from women.. I will throw the wild guess that if all hate each other men do have way more to loose.. i do not see how much worse some can be 😘😘

I loved how reporter was so done and yet was being professional

Imagine complaining being scared to help a woman because you might get accused of SA. Meanwhile actually getting raped is and always has been a very real threat women face everytime they go outside

@IrresistibleWitch

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? How can helping be considered SA?

@Walmart1

Жыл бұрын

Lol a Woman can get assulted and I wouldnt bother helping her. They don't need Men right?

@cierad.249

Жыл бұрын

@@Walmart1 just say you wouldn’t help anyone who needed help and move on. I don’t understand why some men like to pretend to be hero’s when really they’re cowards 😂

@user-ll5id2kw8g

Жыл бұрын

@@Walmart1 that would be called victim blaming, not promoting awareness against SA

@OriginalCovfefe

Жыл бұрын

@@cierad.249 according to you, if a man doesnt help he’s a coward, but if he does and gets possibly falsely accused, hes an assailant? Pick and choose a lane. If feminists want true rights, they also need to be fully okay with signing up to serve in the military for two years, taking on jobs that require heavy manual labor, etc. dont get me wrong, there are some issues that are affecting women negatively, and they need to be fixed, but that’s not the only thing that the feminists truly want.

“Don’t be threatening,” he says to a person standing almost completely still. Please I know these people and their mentality are harmful but they’re so pathetic it’s almost hilarious.

not to mention korean judicial system and lazy polices that has no empathy for victims I was abused, hit by younger brother and death threatened since we both were young. I committed suicide twice and self harmed of course I called the police twice (when i was adolescent) but they(male polices) left me behind because there's parents.. and my own mom and dad said that im paranoid and too sensitive I was actually stabbed by knife, kicked in my face and belly. I just wanted to die. my brother is two faced sociopath and he went to uni but im not I've been Uk and Us by myself before for the 'escape' and it felt so relived just because my family could't hurt me just realised how miserable I was when I was young but i survived tho never think about suicide it makes them win

korean president sigma chad

As heartbreaking as this is, this isn’t surprising. People here have to understand how SK society is where it’s at today. After the Korean War and the country was in shambles, the sole priority that emerged was improving its standing on the global stage. Naturally, the only metric that SK would use to gauge this progress is the state of its economy. As a result, they only obsessed over economic results, numbers, and rankings. In doing so, they neglected the social well-being and health of its people. Basically, SK grew up too fast physically but not emotionally/mentally. So to men, they believe their perspective on entrenched norms and their privileges aren’t out of place. But in order for society to move forward, discussions like these have to take place. So while it seems really sad to see gender conflicts right now, I see it as a critical first step to getting the ball rolling

@KS-sw9dv

Жыл бұрын

Fantastically articulated. I completely agree. As an American woman who lived in S Korea you can see this played out.

@zuzu5175

Жыл бұрын

Very well said! As a Korean American your insight is refreshing. I would like to add, this is not a young country, it has an ancient history where men were always elevated above women. I hope for the sake of all men and women we will be able to understand each other soon.

@MikeStoneJapan

Жыл бұрын

Japan has something similar going on.

@FREE_WILL_DEFENDER

Жыл бұрын

All i know is their population is dropping. I wonder what will happen when the writing on the wall becomes undeniable. Nothing probably 🤷🏾‍♂️

@Naomi-fb1ej

Жыл бұрын

As someone from a country that's often lumped tgt with SK, Japan, Taiwan, etc. as having an East-Asian developmental model, I somewhat agree with this take but I would like to highlight that this is severely depoliticised view of history. What is the reason that these countries had a lot of "economic progress" but no "social progress"? Because for most of their history, they were authoritarian/semi-authoritarian dictatorships where democratic and social movement were annihilated, and activists were targeted and even killed. How come not many people bring this up? Because these dictatorships were backed by the US/the West... In the beginning of the video the feminist march is holding a banner with two slogans, one about women's rights, one about the length of the working day. Because misogyny is not just an issue of holding on to old patterns, it is fueled by male anxiety that's captured by neoconservative movements. Even today, Japan and South Korea rely extremely heavily on traditional patriachal models to handle needs such as childcare, care of the elderly, aka the woman stays home or works AND takes care of the household. However, this is basically untenable today. It's basically a similar story to the West, when men feel powerless due to economic precarity and losing the traditional role of dominating over their wife, they lash out at women...

The last line "My greatest fear is that men and women lose their gender identities, and end up being identical apart from their genitalia" (14:21) encapsulates the primary issue perfectly. You can easily draw logical connections to every single issue with traditional masculinity and anti-feminism (even when not under those labels) from this fear alone. In my opinion, quelling this fear in young men and understanding its causes is a big part the way forward. I would have loved to see Hanako press further on the logic behind the fear itself, but this was great reporting and I applaud the choice to approach the topic with a larger focus on the feminist opposition.

@shawn8093

Жыл бұрын

Feminists seem to have an issue with everything traditionally masculine. That is the problem most men have with them. Every time there is a social issue, feminists are always blaming “men”, “the patriarchy”, “toxic masculinity”, or “traditional masculinity”. In other words, men! Women as a group are hardly ever handled accountable for some of the issues we currently have. Hence, we are tired of being made to feel like villains for things most of us are not responsible for.

@flaviusfake271

Жыл бұрын

I believe the fear is the expectation and treatment of men in relationships nowadays. We are expected to be earn a significant income, be emotionally available yet unbreakable, be always dedicated to our partners happiness meaning all our free time is their time. That has been my experience during my last 3 relationships. One was a very long one. Heck even for child custody and government support. The 3 friends in my circle give the cheque to their ex spouse. Two gave up completely not by choice on getting joint custody. They reluctantly accepted 1 weekend per 2 weeks. Misleading narratives or outright false accusations were brought against them. The other guy took a loan out after being with his ex spouse for 4 or 5 years to pay all her debts. She left him within a month of the loan being taken by him. He had to fight to have her make payments on the loan. She did not pay the majority of the loan. There are some amazing women in this world. My mother, sister in law, grandmother and cousins. All of them are honest, proud, strong, intelligent and hard workers. Sadly nowadays I witness more stories of a woman taking advantage of those with no recourse or say. Also some men who mistreat women too. I lost an aunt to such a coward. So in my opinion there is a social issue. Men are considered more as labourers. I understand a child is not conceived by only one and in the past many women were left penniless. Still no dad (not on drugs, alcohol, not violent, no criminal records, no domestic reports or anything except he has diabetes so he could maybe pass put though it has happened for 10 years) should not restricted from seeing their daughter because the mother is spiteful. Yet that is acceptable and commom nowadays. This is the reason these organizations are happening because some men feel mistreated in some cases rightfully so because of their gender. The same mother decided to move as far away as possible recently because my friend was finally given more visitation rights. It has been 3 years. He hold got 1 to 2 days every 2 weeks a year ago. He doesn't even fight or complain which days. Anyways there are some terrible people with no hearts or kindness in this world. Even in my family I have 2 aunts and 2 uncles that I struggle to even acknowledge at all due to their past actions.

@chameleon28

Жыл бұрын

@@flaviusfake271 that’s sounds like a problem with the family court system. Which needs to be reformed. In my country joint custody is automatically granted, if you want sole you have to prove why. Prenups are very important in a marriage and it’s important to ensure you marry someone who makes similar money to you and that they continue to work throughout the marriage

@Feministslayer2019

Жыл бұрын

Wishing back to the roman days.

@Ofasia777

Жыл бұрын

@@flaviusfake271 That's men made problems, the main opposition to fixing those problems are other men and conservative women. Feminists are the natural allies to men who want change and equality

South Korean Government initiatives to raise the birth and marriage rate are going well I see

@Walmart1

Жыл бұрын

It's the women who are lowering it.

@m.ceniza4688

Жыл бұрын

@@Walmart1 and for good reason.

@ulfricstormcloak3657

Жыл бұрын

​@@Walmart1 And? It's their right to decide whether to have children. Otherwise it would be lowering them to second class citizenry.

@Alex-kg1xh

Жыл бұрын

@@ulfricstormcloak3657 Avoiding conscription in SK is criminalized for males. But females aren’t obligated to serve in the military. Also they’re free to give birth or be childfree. So that’s a question who’re second class citizens…

@eksbocks9438

Жыл бұрын

​@@ulfricstormcloak3657 Pretty much. If they don't want kids and would rather focus on a career: I'm okay with that. South Korea should just prioritize the people who want kids. That way, everybody wins.

This seems like exactly what's going on in the West, except it's mostly done in online spaces for now. I suspect these tensions will hit the streets in the US soon.

I have heard and read many horror stories, from people I know too, about how minorities in general are treated as second class citizens. People of color being shamed in public, single mothers and their children being bullied by their own familes and women being assaulted and mistreated in every layer of life. At work, at home, in schools or on the street. Accounts of unsuspecting women being pulled into cars or clubs against their will is something I've heard of personally. Of course SK isn't going under in complete visible mayhem. But the effects of what is happening will lead to further negative consequences. And it's not like they are the only country pulling that kinda bullshit. It's all very saddening and unnecessary.

@RaheelPervaiz123

Жыл бұрын

Happens in every country. At some point humans cave into their animal self

@primordialorder

5 ай бұрын

Minorities are actually aliens, so there's nothing wrong with treating them as second-class citizens.

So, if I understand our friends at Gender Harmony correctly, women asking for equal pay + personal safety = Feminism. Basic human rights are "Feminism" now apparently.

@chicn7751

Жыл бұрын

That is what feminism was originally. The ideas of first and second wave feminism are focused on gender equality. Modern forms of feminism, third and fourth wave, are focused on changing social views and preexisting ideas. At its core it has always been about equality.

@LoneWulf278

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s always been that way, actually. It’s very interesting.

@badge5575

Жыл бұрын

Blame your lack of safety on the psychopaths in the wrld not normal men and its illegal to pay men more than women

@Janeway1269

Жыл бұрын

Yup and their wannabe hero, wants to "protect" the women. From what? What is there to protect them from but other men? I guess he wants things to stay that way?

@marcusinfinity9386

Жыл бұрын

Safety isn't a right

8:30 he literally thinks equality is a discrimination against him 😭 WILD

@iranjackheelson

Жыл бұрын

No.. it means distorted version of feminist movement is OVER correcting the discrimination

@Joshua-eo5hr

Жыл бұрын

No he's right women have gone too far across the world and need to be put in their place.

@austkeat

Жыл бұрын

@4:43 she really thinks she’s being oppressed because men piss on the toilet seat and don’t shut the door when they pee 🤣

@anonymous-yx6kf

Жыл бұрын

Equality is equality. But feminist's equality is a discrimination against male. Actually, real equality is claimed by men.

@506Naz

Жыл бұрын

@@iranjackheelson sure buddy, continue the monologue on 4Chan ❤️

Then draft these womens in Korean Army too , embace equality

Isn't Vice leftist? It's strange to see one of their videos with a title like this.

@gmya4880

Жыл бұрын

The title is objectively neutral, though.

Equality feels like oppression to the privileged. That's true everywhere apparently.

@hallowakers3d2y

Жыл бұрын

Women are literally privileged everywhere. Go ahead lie and tell me women dont get things handed to them for being a woman.

@eksbocks9438

Жыл бұрын

When they see people struggling, they get a high out of it. Like an addict. So, the more they struggle: The happier they get. Doesn't matter what they have to do to get their "supply."

@jhonklan3794

Жыл бұрын

right, women are scared of eqaulity.

@friedfrawg

11 ай бұрын

Lol feminism erased mens role in society. So now men are erasing women. Blair white is a better woman than any feminist. I'd marry HIM and not you because he actually embraces femininity.

Gender equality is pretty dire in South Korea and Japan particularly.

@axelrod-_-

Жыл бұрын

yes Only men are drafted into the army and forced to serve for two years. Women get extra points for college. They get extra points for job interviews, but they are still less productive.

@lpk6372

Жыл бұрын

Conservative closer minded societies valuing work more then the happiness of its own people yeah they deserve no children just as their moon ancestors fell before them

@andresmattos7541

Жыл бұрын

have you seen the gender equality in the USA? Women get pay less than men too, do you know what is the gender equality in Arab nations? LOL

@marcusinfinity9386

Жыл бұрын

No

@luciannebeans6679

Жыл бұрын

No? Explain.

12:38 I’m stuck at the men don’t even shower. Wtf is that about?

Feminism is way for 3s and 4s to usurp power from 8s and 9s. All protesting seem to be eye sores.

@Froy6931

Жыл бұрын

The most based comment out there 👆

I think that the intersectionality of income inequality (rich vs. poor) and gender dynamics play a key role in this potential anti-feminism. Historically, men have been defined as "the provider" someone who is the breadwinner and protects their family. As the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, average [men] are unable to buy a home, raise a family. Thus, men lose this title of provider and are, as a result, emasculated in this sense. With the advent of Feminism and the struggle for gender equality _slowly_ improving the lives of women, Feminism and women become a scapegoat for misdirected anger by emasculated men. _i'm (men) losing, they're winning. They (women) must be the bad guys causing this_ Furthermore, I think the lack of empathy for women's struggle by these men undercuts any common ground they may find with Feminists as they fail to see their own inherent privilege as men. In their minds, without this [privileged] provider role, they are essentially 'nothing'.

@rachellim6559

Жыл бұрын

The most logical and critical discussion right here. Wasn't expecting this in a comment section but you really nailed the points down in this one.

@whitey1253

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised that these men have literally zero empathy for women.

@D-E-S_8559

Жыл бұрын

Been deemed a "provider" is a cultural issue, otherwise coached social behavioral thought processes, it's not based on facts, specifically in a changing world, where brute physical strength is not a requisite for earning a living anymore.... The old traditional and often cultural ideologies need to be respected, YES! but they shouldn't be used as factual rationale by govts to make policies on gender parity issues....

@thatindiandude4602

Жыл бұрын

​@@whitey1253not surprised. Classes and groups of people while being oppressed themselves having zero empathy or even using another group as a stepping ladder is all too common.

@yasuke4593

Жыл бұрын

@@whitey1253 why would you be surprised? There are even women who have zero empathy for men. It’s just humanity not to say we should do nothing about it. But to say that there will always be people like that in society. They’ve always been. You could even eliminate all our differences and keep just one…things like that it would still happen.

Everyone wants to blame the problems of capitalism, such as recession, and the absolute requirement that we fill in the supposed labour gaps with new sources of labour while trying to underpay them - on everything and everyone except capitalism. Let's blame women for wanting equality in the workplace. Let's blame gays for having a marketable demographic. Let's blame liberals for the fact that an automobile requires a fraction of the man-hours to create than it did when the industry was at its peak. Let's blame conservatives for believing the lies that conservative politicians tell them about "bringing jobs back" while at the same time taking in money from the industries they surrender to regulatory capture. But let's never blame capitalism itself, because otherwise we might want to, you know, adjust it or move beyond it.

@tcrijwanachoudhury

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! They-the corporate leeches just want us to fight like this. And I fear they're winning. :(

@worshipthecomedygodseoeunk4010

Жыл бұрын

by design...thats why any form of social system is seen as communism. even vice isnt innocent with their neolib takes. both sides fight to the death while the top 1% laugh their way to mars

@twofortydrifter

Жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right. Communism is the answer. Please go spread the good word to the S. Koreans. I'm sure it'll go over well with them.

@sugahtron

Жыл бұрын

It’s literally the poor vs the rich! Everything else is just noise

@rico14

Жыл бұрын

@@twofortydrifterthat’s hilarious 😂

As they should Im proud of these women

@johanprabhu779

8 ай бұрын

As they should what? Telling a men they should all die? Men are at the top of the world now. In every profession. U R only mentally equal to us. But if all men said all woman should die THEN men litrlly have the power to make that come true. But not all of us r bad AND u have noooo idea how many men r trying their best to take care of u in the shadows. I can say without any hesitation that u r at our MERCY.

Why is the first thing the men say about the movement isn't " Those guys who are on trail should be ashamed" but " masculinity is disappearing" because women want to be equal in the work force.

Women movements have massive backlash in Asian countries, but probs to them. Chase your dreams/careers while being respected/safe. Till then soldier on…

@gallectee6032

Жыл бұрын

@@marciestoddard730 That there's levels to this.

@SafavidAfsharid3197

Жыл бұрын

Yeah take the bag without any responsibility. Meanwhile in SK men are forcefully drafted for 2 years, expected to be bread winners for the family, don't have protection against r@pe or DV, etc. Truly the femenist agenda of absolute gynocentrism.

@anonymous-yx6kf

Жыл бұрын

The women movement is oppressing men. So men are resisting the movement to live. feminists call this resistance backlash.

@snapsf

Жыл бұрын

Of course it has. They'll take women highlighting important issues as an attack instead of getting mad at those men creating the issues these women are speaking on.

@hanson2649

Жыл бұрын

@@marciestoddard730 99 percent of brick layers are men. Should we equalize that?

6:36 Another common grievance I've heard is that when they go to a doctor for a health concern. And what they say isn't taken seriously. Such as abdominal pain.

@bagelized

Ай бұрын

as a korean woman, when i went to a doctor for extreme fatigue (i couldn't stay awake for more than 8 hours a day), he laughed in my face and told me to go home and rest.

I don't get it, closing public bathroom door when using it sounds like a common sense for any civilized human, why gender control freak? And the man in the video first irritated the lady by call her freak and then blamed her for being irritated. Wtf😂.

that Vice reporter is a saint. trying to reason with overgrown teenage boys is like trying to teach a toddler not to eat crayons.

@gforce97

Жыл бұрын

except they were calm and rational unlike the feminists they tried having a conversation with in the video

@jones2277

Жыл бұрын

@@gforce97 calm and rational? you must be one of them.

@kaydoeteccc7741

10 ай бұрын

​@@jones2277they were calm and rational

@Kritikanbringer

Ай бұрын

#KevinSamuels' #SIGNlanguage always applies: Shame Insult Guilt Need to be right R.I.P.

So the women haters are crying like victims?Doesn't he realize you can see right through his words and actions..they are displaying exactly why those women are out there!His calm tone and mannerisms don't hide his true intent

@universal3024

Жыл бұрын

What that feminism is misandry in disguise?

@souravcal81

Жыл бұрын

Compete...play on level ground...u cant have the cake and eat it to...first try to define feminism...when u need 50% of ur husband's money after a divorce then u play victim card...if u want equal pay as a gender...work equally hard...since women in ur country no longer have babies, avg age of people in countries like Korea and Japan is going up and soon they wont have a working population..

@algumacoisa0_074

Жыл бұрын

​@@universal3024 asking for equal rights = hating men? Not really buddy...

@madfaith777

Жыл бұрын

@@universal3024 women standing in an equal space with men is not man hate ..but men not wanting them to is woman hate?What are you so afraid of ?

@Juber777

Жыл бұрын

When did the guy say that they hate women? If you did hear it, it was around the men haters "they should take a shower, that'll help equality" 😂😂 Hypocrites, feminists are hypocrites and that's why "women haters" don't simp for their sob story unless it's actually to promote understand instead of segregation of gender. As someone who looks 19 and gets a lot of advances of women, I chose to stay single because of the attitude women carry like a "male player" thinking that they can get and do whatever they want simply because they want to *feel* equal..... But don't want the downside of it 😂😅 they'll end up being alone with cats and blame men 😔 🐈 lol

I see why the fertility rate is low

@nopva

Жыл бұрын

The reason Korea has a low fertility rate is because they don't get married. The reason for not getting married is that the man is short of money and the woman is because the man is short of money.

@Ofasia777

Жыл бұрын

​@@nopvaSo you're saying the main problem is housing costs?

@Ceylin_Kurtbogan

Жыл бұрын

economy and toxic work culture. Japan is extremely famous for deadly working culture but not a lot of people know for example that Korea scores much higher than Japan in that regard.

this should be titled “the patriarchy is dividing this country”

@faiqanjum9010

2 ай бұрын

let me guess, you support the Kill All Men movement?

In your opinion, is it normal for you to call your father a bug? People criticize independence activists because they are men. Is that normal? For example, in the United States, is it okay if a feminist criticizes George Washington because he is a man?

Korean men are deciding to separate entirely from women and blame them for this division instead of looking inward to understand how they can become better counterparts to women. There seems to be a severe lack of communication between the two groups and its causing a lot of misunderstanding. SK's problem with this isnt unique to just them, but i'm glad a spotlight is being shown on SK society. These women deserve better and the collective feminist movement will save lives.

@lpk6372

Жыл бұрын

​@Unrnud if you like sleeping with women and seeing children then you better rethink that position son

@Walmart1

Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile Men in the West are suffering because Femenism has gone too far. Men lose custody battles and are forced to lose their assets at devorce. Asia and Africa simply watched and said No thanks.

@jirachi-wishmaker9242

Жыл бұрын

Sorry Miscommunication, agree Egalitarianism is not = Feminism. Thank you But too many contradiction in your statement.

@ShitBagSPC

Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t help that the average woman doesn’t view the average man as attractive enough to be in a relationship with 😅

@AmberAmber

Жыл бұрын

@saltyatheist TY❤

bro this sounds like some toxic intel vibes from these dudes lol

@ludwigjosh9619

Жыл бұрын

Did your wifesboyfriend allow you to comment on these video?

@coolcat669

Жыл бұрын

​@@ludwigjosh9619 are you having fantasies about being a cuck?

@hoshi4042

Жыл бұрын

most "men's right activist" do what they do because they are incels and without the patriarchy they know women won't accept their mediocrity.

@daniellord-vera6987

Жыл бұрын

@@ludwigjosh9619 sorry who are you ?

Absolute power without responsibility is dangerous.

Let this video be birthcontrol and stop you from lowering your standards sisters ❤

We've simply moved away from what we used to have, fighting for what is right from what is wrong, to now fighting to satisfy our grievances and resentments in life. I'm a man, and in that split second that they went to ask questions in the womens rally i could see them react to instantly react and harass that lady, yes she was a little petty but not wrong, as a man this is the time to be gentle and understanding, not turn and say "gender control freak", and that's where they lose what little sensibility as a male movement they aren't leading men but misleading

@hakunamatata3935

Жыл бұрын

❤❤❤

@dclarke2179

Жыл бұрын

No way a male movement can progress without taking away from women.

@tossancuyota7848

Жыл бұрын

@@dclarke2179 bruh they can progress its even written in history and built around your surroundings, and without taking anything from the opposite gender..

@eattoast6378

Жыл бұрын

@@dclarke2179 All of civilization is a male movement, lmao

@dclarke2179

Жыл бұрын

They not going to give resources strictly to men in this time and era. It's going to be seen as taking from women.

let the powers that be divide you from your brother or sister by telling you how they take a larger piece of the scrap, meanwhile they pick your pensions / retirement clean. The theme from 'Parasite' continues.

@nogodsnomasters6963

Жыл бұрын

While you are right, I'm not ok with women and queer folk being killed at higher rates and treated as subhumans. Plenty of men who claim to be my brothers and comrades do that shxt too, and silence those affected in their own movements and affinity groups. Also don't wanna wait till after the revolution to be able to, say, get an abortion, just saying. In my experience, women and queer folk trying to fight next to men as equals, ARE STILL NOT TREATED AS SUCH by the men they choose to fight with. So cos you're also right, I'll keep fighting with men, but don't you forget, they often don't have my back as i have theirs.

Everyone is a feminist until the power goes out or the streets need repair 😂

@CB13212

Жыл бұрын

Everyone’s a feminist until literally anything needs to get done 😂

@Pistolita221

Жыл бұрын

@@CB13212 I generally think you're a bit too bitter to get your message across, but 10/10 here.

lmao what women are privilleged in south korea

@wooshydog

2 ай бұрын

Looks like someone needs to do research

you really see with the example of south korea that economic prosperity and growth doesnt equal a socially developed society

@Ceylin_Kurtbogan

Жыл бұрын

In countries that develop rapidly, the minds generally fall behind that progress. Seen everywhere. I am from Turkey and Turkey is such country as well. It has rapidly been developing and this has caused a lot of generational gap between younger and older people here. Especially given the fact that Korea has an aged society with more elder people, it is clear why their social development did not follow the speed of their economic development.

Yeah, Iran and Afghanistan totally are the norm a "developed" country should aspire to lol

The first woman that talked to them simply asked for men to close the door when they pee, and the guy in a coat completely lost his marbles, called her a "gender control freak". I bet he's the kind of person who can´t take any criticism at all.

@QQQ-eo2gp

11 ай бұрын

Yeah but if a man asks a women to cover up or do something with their hair in the US you know that’s going straight to HR. It’s the same crap.

@eatthisblueberrypie

8 ай бұрын

​@@QQQ-eo2gpcomparing with hair??😂

Feminism was always meant to divide country

@ILOVEJAPAN223

Ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly

That guy is like the essence of evil

@Soreto23

Жыл бұрын

u seem to be delusional, and having some mental problems saying that things

@urhunn7778

Жыл бұрын

Will simping get you laid?

@vklnew9824

Жыл бұрын

Only to the dysgenic

These mens activists have taken lessons from the alt right in the US. Its blatantly obvious, cutting clips out of context with 'I got u' music, making small insults if you can even call them that sexual harassment and blowing it out of promotion, going into other people's protests agitating them. Such a shame

@maybeyourbaby6486

Жыл бұрын

I am Swedish and not Korean but that part really feels true to me 👀 Because right here, people will complain about metoo and CRT and drag queen story hours and all that, with the exact same buzzwords and everything, and then call you americawashed or whatever if you respond with the same arguments that people use against the same rhetoric in the US -_- Say what you want about both American parties being the same and all that, but I really feel like what went on in the US from the 2016 election forward has made bigots all over the world WAY too comfortable.

@snapsf

Жыл бұрын

Wow you really sumarized what they're about well.

@air_friedtissue

8 ай бұрын

Those two so called mra s were just ...embarrassing.

The "feminist" at the rally was so sexist.

Ministry of "Gender Equality" and Family is an official english name, but an actual name of the ministry in Korean is Ministry of Women and Family. I was wondering why there should exist one ministry that supports women and families. It seems that men or father are excluded.

as a south korean living in america now, this conversation is so desperately needed in the country -- unfortunately, i'm not sure how much will change. south korea has spent thousands of years being steeped in confucian ideals which emphasizes the individual roles and responsibilities of people within their gender, and expectations and how it influences the groups and environments in which they belong. many koreans my age (mid to late 20s) are surprisingly not as progressive on ideas such as gender equity.

@rinpark7977

Жыл бұрын

Where do they start from anyways? Like America had it's civil rights era a long time ago, and so various movements have built off of that since then. Has Korea, or East Asia in general, had anything comparable?

@raafeyplayz7015

Жыл бұрын

But genders should be generally responsible for their roles

@Fatima-kp8hi

Жыл бұрын

@@raafeyplayz7015 you don’t get to tell us what to do. Continue dying off in despair like most men…. Leave us alone.

@andrewfyip

Жыл бұрын

South Korea needed a revolution that downloaded Confucianism

@InternetArbiter

Жыл бұрын

Women are not required to perform military service in Korea, but every male is forced to. You can talk about ideas all day long, but you forget about the war, the DMZ, and the state of the world's political agendas at play already while you live not only sheltered, but privileged to come to America as a foreigner. You smell your own farts and think it's fresh air.

South Korea should conscript women in to the military, it's only equal, and women are just as strong as men.

@Andrea-1998

Жыл бұрын

We wish lol, soft giants are sweet

@yagovmolotov5127

Жыл бұрын

@@Andrea-1998 can you explain what you just said babe

@Andrea-1998

Жыл бұрын

@@yagovmolotov5127 It’s utter nonsense that we all act as if we’re just as strong as men, it’s not the case and it’ll never be because nature always intended males and females to be different. We’re stronger in certain areas in comparison to men, but men succeed in some areas we aren’t great aswell so it’s fairly 50/50. And with “soft giants are sweet” i meant strong men who are fairly soft from the inside, they’re truly the type of men who i see as strong as they don’t act all macho and arrogant to show over their masculinity and strength as they don’t have to boast and flow naturally. I myself believe that drafts everywhere should be abolished and that the fact that only men are expected to go through that is unfair and discriminatory, but i do still think war is more of a man’s game. I suggest we put the draft for all politicians and other leaders that start the wars, not the ones that fight it.

Wow! I’m shocked at his similar the tactics of the Korean anti-feminist movement are to the American anti-feminist movement. I guess it’s proof these tactics work.

@pkmkb1

9 ай бұрын

except american anti-feminists are nowhere near powerful enough to get a president elected like south koreans did

They keep bringing up all the problems that feminism supposedly caused, yet there is barely no discussion on how to fix the problems this uproar is happening among the women demographic.

“I think they should take showers.” 😂 I’m dead 😵

@QQQ-eo2gp

11 ай бұрын

‘Feminism’

K-pop and K-drama have created an image of Korean women that is very different from the women in this video.

@19katherine1213

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, same with Korean men too. A lot of foreign girls (usually from south-east asia) have this fantasy when they come to SK. Only to discover it’s a cesspool of misogyny

@profile1565

Жыл бұрын

Only the ugly girls are whining obviously.

@minnamandariini4843

Жыл бұрын

@@19katherine1213 reality is usually disappointing than fantasy

Now its a high time, we men should take the charge again into our hands and now we know that why the charge was into male's hands earlier.

WHEN YOU ARE ACCUSTOMED TO PRIVILEGE, EQUALITY FEELS LIKE OPPRESSION 🚨📢📢