Thank you for the excellent explanations and the measurements in metric! Besides the usefulness to anyone considering this specific model, this is an extremely good video for anybody trying to understand the general dimensions and constraints when considering a European format/sliding saw.

There are a few other good K3 videos floating around KZread but this is the best for how to fit it into your shop. I have a K700P on order (about the same size as this K3) and I’ve been worried about how to position this in my garage and this video is perfect for helping that!

You have made wonderfully efficient use of your limited space.

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

Necessity is the mother of all invention...

Thank you so much for your Hammer sliding table video it was great. Answered a lot of questions about space requirements. Enjoy your video's keep up the good work. Bob

Hi, thank you for this video! I’m just on the way of buying the same saw, and this video was a great help!

Exactly what i was looking for. Thanks!

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

👍

Thank you very much for the detail.

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it helped.

Thanks so much for this video. I have two Hammer machines - the A331 planer thicknesser and the N4400 bandsaw and I went through the same process as you trying to determine if they would fit in my garage. The available plans were a bit limited on detail. The bandsaw in particular, was an issue (height) and fortunately a call to Felder ensured it was delivered on a pallet horizontally which saved the day. I’m currently deciding if I can fit a K3 in the garage and your video was perfect - thanks again. Martin

Clear and usefull. Thanks

Great info, thanks!

@builtfixed6611

2 жыл бұрын

👍

Great vid, the only issue you didn’t cover was removing and replacing the crosscut fence and the sliding table. Maybe in another vid? But you did a sinsational job and covered more detail than anyone else.

A great video on fitting a K3 in a small shop! One thing I've heard, maybe you can confirm for those thinking about squeezing a K3/B3/C3 into a small shop -- isn't it necessary to be able to move the slider all the way to the maximum rear extent in order to install/change saw blades?

@builtfixed6611

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct. You need to be able to fully extend the slider back (toward the operator side) to be able to fully access the blade.

Great video and explanation, thank you! How long/wide is the rip fence from the blade?

Thank you for the great video, although I was a bit late to the party. I am looking to buy the Hammer K3 Winner, but I have a reasonably narrow workspace/garage 2740mm. How wide is your workspace?Keep up the great stuff.

Great information on Hammer products. I may have missed it in your video, but I was wondering which K3 Model do you own? I think since you mention the 'comfort' model that you have the 79x48. Personally, I was thinking about the K3 31x31, but I'm not sure if the outrigger table is an option for that particular unit. If Hammer requires the customer to upgrade to the 79x48 in order to have the outrigger as an option, they will likely have priced me out of their equipment. Then again, no matter how it's looked at, Hammer equipment is priced at premium price points. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Great video, thank you. My old barn converted to workshop measures 5.6x8.2m so I have plenty of room for the K3. Currently I am a semi-professional and have many Festool tools but only a Bosch table and Miter saw which I rarely use in my workshop because of dust. I'm looking at the Festool TKS80 and Kapex KS120 but the price for the two is about the same as the Felder K3. Obviously all tools are pricy but I do love a nice tool. Are you happy with the K3 and can it largely replace a miter saw? (I'd still keep the contractor miter and table saws)

If your workbench wasn't in the way, you could pivot the rip fence so that it under the top. My saw is about the same distance from the wall and that's what I do to get the rip fence out of the way.

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting and clever solution but I think my projects are in the way of my saw! I have 8 windows ready for glueup stacked on the saw in the way. Back to work!

14:12 where you get those feet? does the saw chassis come with holes for them? what's the bolt/thread info? i know you dislike a mobile base but i was thinking about trying some leveling casters. great video btw. i'm close to ordering a 48 (slider) x 31 (rip) version without the outrigger.

I'm thinking about getting the exact set up you have. Any regrets or changes you would make? Did you consider the saw/shaper combo? Any reason for not doing that?

Cool now I know better what to buy

@builtfixed6611

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

Thanks for this tour. It can be hard to interpret the dimensioned drawings in the catalogs. Are you using any dust collection above the table? And what is the practical utility of the saw with the outrigger off? Is one of the small crosscut fences worthwhile, or is it basically a task of replacing the outrigger when you want to do the crosscut?

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

I always use overhead dust extraction for thru cuts. The euro guard quickly pops off the riving knife by loosening a thumb screw.

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

With the outrigger off the saw it has the same functionality minus cross cutting. I leave the outrigger on all the time unless I have a need for that floor space. Hammer does sell a slider mounted small cross cut with miter guage similar to what might be used on a standard table saw but I have not tried it.

Can you do a video of adjusting the blade tilt when it the pointer on the decal does not agree with with a what a carpenters square up against the blade

@builtfixed6611

2 жыл бұрын

I'll look into that. A short solution I would recommend is to never trust a decal. Get their digital angle wheel as that is easily adjusted and very accurate compared to a decal.

What is possible max size blade with scoring unit?

Здравствуйте! Скажите пожалуйста на сколько выдвигает я каретка в лево и право, сколько метров должно быть помещение? С уважением Сергей

Thanks for the good video! What kind of Feet do you have for the machine. How big are the wholes for the machine feet?

@builtfixed6611

2 жыл бұрын

Goodmorning. Here's a link for the machine feet I used: www.schwaderer.com/products/maschinenfuss-stellfuss-sfel80-zur-bodenbefestigung

@89Blubbi

2 жыл бұрын

@@builtfixed6611 thank you for the quick response, wow! Is it the M8, 50mm version or is it just the default on the page. Sorry for bothering.

@builtfixed6611

2 жыл бұрын

@@89Blubbi I guess the webpage loads up the default setting.... I bought the 80mm diameter with 10 mm stud. There is no harm in having the studs extra long as there is plenty of room inside the k3 frame. I believe mine are 100mm long but get enough length to level for your floor uneveness plus any additional height if you want your saw higher than factory.

Thanks for the info. Have been looking at the exact same saw on there Web site for a couple of weeks now, think I would also add the dado prep and scoring Unit. Going to call felder next week for price. Would love the cf531 pro if its in my budget but don't think it will be. If you don't mind me asking what was the cost of your saw with the upgrades.

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Derek. I can say that the dado prep and scoring unit were upgrades that I have been very happy about. The dado cutter is not cheap but it is well made and works great. The price is listed on their online shop. I don't think that I should post the machine price on an open forum. Give me your email if you want to chat about that.

@derekrobertson1548

3 жыл бұрын

@@builtfixed6611 Thanks for the reply. On the uk website they do not list the price of their machines you have to request a quote. I have now spoken to 2 different people from the felder group, the first person said to email him with a list of the options I want and he will get back to me with a price, he also mentioned a lead time of 6 weeks. Email was send and I got an automated response saying he is out of the office this week. So phoned and spoke to someone else with a list of the options required and this chap would not give a quote but said the machine could be as much as £4500 with a lead time of 26 weeks. I just feel that when companies aren't transparent with there prices it leaves the end user vonrable to being over charged for a product. When ordering my A3 31 it was a much simpler process. One call and I was given the price of the machine and a list of prices for each upgrade. Order placed deposit paid and now just waiting till end of June for delivery.

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

@@derekrobertson1548 I meant the price of accessories....dado cutter is online. You are correct that their business model is not like a normal brick and mortar store. I would not be surprised if the lead time is 6 months+. Given the surge with raw materials, steel included) I could imagine pricing changing continuously. I ordered start of April 2020 and received the saw mid October. I'll check and see if I can pull up a list of the line item options I ordered if that is useful...

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

@@derekrobertson1548 Unfortunately my order was not in english so translating the line items over might not be accurate with uk in naming but I think you can figure out what I mean. k3 winner 4kW 5.5hp (454) dado prep (82) scoring unit (74) prof rip with 40mm dia steel bar (86) fine adjust rip (88) 800mm rip capacity (78) 2000mm slider (132) 1100 outrigger (160) outrigger degree scale 1300mm outrigger crosscut (168) shipping slient power classic 250mm blade 80mm pre score blade

@derekrobertson1548

3 жыл бұрын

@@builtfixed6611 I have seen the price of the dado blade online and would probably get that at a later date but will need the prep for it done when ordering the machine. will wait till next week and speak to Russell again and see if he can help out a bit more as that's who I spoke to on Thursday. He recons he can get the order rushed through for a 6 week lead time as my current saw has took a massive dump on me in the middle of remodeling the kitchen in my own house, as you can imagine I am now living in a bomb site, no walls between living room and kitchen with just a few makeshift cabinets sitting in place. Ad you can probably imagine The other half is not to amused lol. Ah well that's life it happens.

Will it fit through my door? What is the total widthpin outrigger and electrical included? My door is 91,5 cm... And Tuesday I’m picking up my 2015 Hammer K3 Winner

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

You will need to have the sheet metal table and it's support brackets removed and the power supply removed. It would appear that the saw without the outrigger option and without the sheet metal table just fits thru 91.5cm with power supply attached. Removing the sheet metal table and power supply is easy. Don't mess with the outrigger arm.

can the base of the sliding table be easily removed and re-installed? asking because i would have to move it around two corners in the staircase. thanks in advance.

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Elias. It can be easily removed but the reinstallation will probably take hours to realign and calibrate. Which size slider have you ordered?

@eliasschreiegg1745

3 жыл бұрын

@@builtfixed6611 well, good to know the option is there so there will be a way to get it downstairs for sure. I ordered the 2m slider version just now, since my shop is 8.5m x 3.9m that shouldnt be a problem. now i only have to wait till february...that sucks...

Thanks. Now I think my 1000mm door frame is enough

@builtfixed6611

3 жыл бұрын

I would dare say that you are safe! 👍

How much is the saw? Seems that's the biggest mystery of the universe? I know they want you to call, so they have different price for everyone?

@builtfixed6611

2 жыл бұрын

You're going to hate my answer initially but hear me out. I think if you ask a dozen people you will get about as many different answers. The machines are built to order; the exact build and accessories make a difference. My delivery price was reasonable but I have truck delivery from the factory whereas a west coast USA customer will have ocean freight and trucking costs. If you want the very best price sign up with them to receive their sale flyers and wait for the machine you're after to go on sale. Their sale prices are substantial.