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@hasbullahkamarudin4340

3 жыл бұрын

Hello.. how much is a kayak? can not specify the price according to size convert the price to malaysian ringgit .. Please explain

@hasbullahkamarudin4340

3 жыл бұрын

if I buy that kayak does it come with other equipment or basic kayak

@hasbullahkamarudin4340

3 жыл бұрын

Tq

Man what a cool time to be looking at an upgrade. So many options! Great comparisons. I can't wait to pedal them both.

Great review as always. Two awesome yaks in that 10'6 - 11'6 range, too tough to call until the last 30 seconds imo....Wheel in the keel was the decision maker for me. (plus the versatility to float rivers...)

Best review out there! Thanks for the help!

Great video, thanks! Really want a Native with propel. Looking at the Slayer 13. But very costly here in Sweden. Tight lines.

Nice! Can't wait for the Titan 12 to come out.

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

K Nguyen Titan 12 is shipping to us next week!

Great review guys! Both solid boats for specific features. Hope you guys are able to make more videos like this!

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Greg. I think it would be fun to get together with you and do a Slayer 10 VS Titan 10 video. I shot you a message.

@DanBuglio

6 жыл бұрын

Do it. I'm debating between the Titan 10.5 and the Slayer Propel 10. Would love to see them head to head.

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Dan Buglio subscribe to the channel. We posted that video last week. It’s also on Greg’s channel.

@gallonofpcp7954

6 жыл бұрын

Headwaters Kayak Im a subscriber and I really enjoy your videos. Could you guys work in a Feel free Lure 2 review with the peddle drive?

I just bought a Lifetime Tamarack for Christmas at a steal since a few pieces were missing. LOL. After 8 years of getting regular boats and looking for bigger boat w/ bigger motor I finally saw the simplicity of a kayak and wanted to give it a try. Two small trips in I know it was a good purchase. I am not big on the standing up part but I wanted something I could lift if I had to. I already had a small cart. I am selling my 16 foot custome Gheenoe with 9.9hp. and use my kayak with my bigger Key West boat when I want to take a longer trip and then launch the kayak up a creek. Congrats for "Working hard" to get what you want in life. Tight lines.

Man I had a golden who was a spitting image of yours. Great breed. Going to have to get another now. Thanks. Sub'd. Kayaker in Ak.

Nice on the water review. Thanks!

Never tried these kayaks but both looks amazing!

I'm not big on being on the water and I don't fish because eating fish doesn't interest me, but these kayaks you test look like fun to ride in. That Titan's maneuverability would make it attractive for people who have to negotiate tight spaces and are more into the piloting aspect. There is a large pond in front of my house, but one of those kayaks would cross it in 5 seconds, but there is enough room to circle and spin around. Your videos are entertaining and informative.

Awesome video great production. Epic handstand! You guys always do a fantastic job when I buy my kayak I may have to do a road trip. Thanks 🙏

Thanks for this video I want the lure now more than ever lol

Really good review!!

I love the drag race scene!

Thanks guys!

Love the comparison. Had thought about buying the Feel Free 11.5 but really think I make the right choice with the Native Titan 10.5. Looking forward to lots of great fishing trips. Boonedox landing gear is a must in my opinion. Thanks guys.

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Both a great boats. I'd be happy with ether, but for stand up bass fishing and tournaments, that new Titan is pretty legit. I had a big smile on my face the whole time! Still though if you want one kayak for all waters, the Lure is more versatile.

Nicely done fellas!

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Parson thanks Chris! We have fun jobs.

I just subscribed to your channel and I already hate you Dan, you have an awesome job. Looking forward to see your latest videos.

Great job guys, you helped me to decide. I am a satisfied owner of FeelFree 11.5 Lure. I was wondering if sell it and get a Titan 10.5. Now I am sure I am going to buy the Overdrive Pedal. Why? I usually go fishing on sea and lakes. Not all fishing spots are simple to reach and the Titan is too heavy for me. The 11.5's front handle is very good because I need two hands to bring my kayak. The wheel is useful in 90% situations (near the wheel would be better some scratch proof material). The Lure seat is very comfortable and backrest is low, this is good for my rescue jacket so I can seat well. In lakes I can stand up while fishing without problems. All two are great products but I can choose only one. Thanks from Italy

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Maurizio G cheers my friend. Thanks for watching. Happy I could help.

@livingsurvival

5 жыл бұрын

yep, to fish rivers the titan is a no go. feelfree you can remove the pedal drive and it handles just as well, is as fast and turns as good.

@christopherjacob6209

5 жыл бұрын

@@livingsurvival why won't it work in rivers well?

Good honest review

Thanks for taking the time to put that review together. I did notice a bit of a wobble in the head of the overdrive while you were peddling. Is that pretty consistent with other peddle drives or just the OD?

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Watch the NAtive drive as well. Both had a bit of swap. You don't really notice when pedaling but yes both had some flex.

Hey Dan , will you ever do a video on the new feelfree overdrive system and what you think of it ? Thanks

great video guys, you just sold me a Lure 11.5 I was excited to learn that the pedal drive option was coming soon so here it is thanks my wife myself and Skye or young lab enjoyed the day with you and your staff who are great fun not pushy and very knowledgeable :)

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Martin Hawkins thanks Martin. We enjoyed you and your wife’s visit very much. Skye is welcome any time. Enjoy your new boat!

Love the honesty;)

Love the Titan for stability but not as good in rougher water. It's also pretty slow from my experience (only been in it a dozen times or so).

Thanks for sharing

I like the blue one :)

There are SOOO many options for bigger guys now! Jackson, Native, Feelfree... buy a kayak and maybe upgrade to pedal later? With the feel free you can plug a motor into the pedal unit? Lots of improvements and competition.

Tonight on Water Outlaws!

You guys should do a video with the new Feelfree Lure tandem with pedal drive.

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

djgruv two steps ahead. My son and I will be headed to Doran Beach with one this weekend for the annual CrabFest. I can’t wait to try it out! You can bet I’ll be getting some video.

Impressive headstand

Cool! I definitely need Kayak this summer! 244 Just joined Have a fantastic week

How do you feel about the rudder control on the lure? I love my lure, but that long rudder handle looks a bit janky and bendy even though it's easy to reach in that high seat.

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Kostaki Gogos it is the weak link in the system no doubt

So manoeuvrability of the FeelFree is better than the Titan if you consider it’s one person handling on the bank (thanks to wheel in the keel)

@HeadwatersKayak

5 жыл бұрын

True.

What about in strong cross winds?

They both seem like quality fishing vessels, but I'll still choose a Hobie Outback.

How did you get that lure in a solid color?

This was the video that sold me on my 13.5 lure . Specifically when Dan said versatility of the feelfree .

Have you tested the Nucanoe pedal drive

how does the titan compare to the hobie mirage passport 10.5?

The Titon paddel housing looks very solid and quite and the Lure housing looks very weak and noisy.

Titan 13.5 vs feel free lure 13.5?

I've been planning to get a feel free for a long time but this video started selling me on the Titan... Then I realized the price difference, the Titan is $600 more. Also can you not get the titan without the pedal drive? The one thing that sold me on the Lure was getting the kayak for cheaper and being able to upgrade to the pedal drive in the future. edit: I know they went over most of this but my comment was written before they got to it also current prices according to ACK is 2499 for titan and 1899 for lure (with pedal drive and rudder, 1099 for just kayak)

great review but you should have said the price at the end, because that's where you lost me. I need a kayak I can sit in like the lure last year killed my back after fly fishing out of mine for 2 hours, I am thinking of the lure but I will stick with paddles, again great review

Thanks

great video.. for me im choose Native 😎

Very nice 😁👍👍👍

This feel free or topwater 120?? Or any big fish kayak

The turning adjuster for the feel free seems rather clunky compared to the titan.

Hi everyone, I speak from Brazil, how do I import here for Brazil Native Watercraft Titan 10.5 Propel? can someone tell me? Thank you for your attention.

Wonder how the oldtown pdl angler 2019 compare to the titan?

@betheflowfishing2620

3 жыл бұрын

Apples to oranges

So it's been about a year since this review was made. Did the feel free drive ever get smoother? Any problems pop in the demo boats? Considering the price. I think the review should been against the native watercraft slayer 10 but maybe that was different 11 months ago. I am looking at pedal drive for exercise & fishing is not that big of a deal for me. I was almost set on the ocean kayak malibu pedal but I guess a sale went off and it jumped from 1800 to 2200 and at that price seems like there are nicer options like these boats. I like the wheel in the keel and versatility of the feel free. This is a great review and this might be nitpicking but in your reviews would mind showing how easy it is transition the boats from pedal drive to paddles while in motion. Where paddle at alot I frequently unexpectedly run it shallow rocky spots. Thanks guys

The feelfree is certainly very loud. I listened when you peddled the Titan, and the Lure. I couldnt hardly hear anything when you peddled the Titan, but the Lure..very loud!

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

A big part of that is how I attached my camera. The lure attached to the plastic hatch so it resinated a ton of noise. The Titan I mounted to the foam from handle which seemed to dampen the noise. It is louder, but nothing as bad as the video suggest. I was bummed when I watched the footage back, but it is what it is. We were still very pleased with the feel and quality of the drive.

2199USD!!!! where are you guys located?

Can you expect a speed difference running a overdrive system on a 11.5 vs 13.5 Lure? If so, how much? Or is the difference more so with paddling?

@HeadwatersKayak

2 жыл бұрын

The 13.5 will track better and be slightly faster.

Hey Guys ! Quick Question, for the feelfree overdrive system once you install the seat adjuster are you able to remove the seat from the kayak as before ? Or does the the seat have to stay permanent ? Thanks

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Lester Garabito it’s bolted in so to remove it you have to uninstall two bolts.

@lestergarabito608

6 жыл бұрын

Headwaters Kayak ok I see so the seat becomes pretty much a fixed seat. Do you think the seat adjuster is a most have or can you still use the overdrive system without it? I feel like being able to remove the seats at ease is a great advantage to have. Thanks for the quick response

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Depends on your height. If your over 6’ your probably fine without it.

@soonerpicker

6 жыл бұрын

Easy to access bolts? I'm 5'8 so I would need the adjustable seat. Also what are the price points of these yaks?

Very nice 👍 👍 🔥 🔥 🔥

Already been done

👍👍👍

Wow on the stability for the Titan. Which other are that stable?

@lexwaldez

5 жыл бұрын

Bonafide? A Big Rig? That's a great question!

Osam 😀

So I’m thinking about getting the 10.5, but is it really worth it? As far as longevity.

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Yes totally worth it.

Have you compared a Moken to a Lure for features?

Concerning previous comment I was speaking of the Titan not the lure

Is there room inside hull to store rods during transport?

@HeadwatersKayak

5 жыл бұрын

Scott Reed not in these boats. The Native Titan 12 does have room though.

I have a 13.5 lure and still can't decide if i wanna drop a grand on the overdrive.. is it worth it?

@HeadwatersKayak

5 жыл бұрын

It’s an affordable way to do it, but I would say if money was not an issue I’d demo a few others and compare. The 2019 Outback and Native Titan are both super sick boats. Also the big Rig FD is pretty dope.

How much sir

How much for the pedal drive itself with out the electric motor?

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Abraham Garcia $999

Noting bits the hob pro angelars

i like the blue

Hey Guys can you help me? Feelfree Lure 11.5 with Overdrive or Jackson Cruise FD?

@HeadwatersKayak

5 жыл бұрын

Lure would be way more stable, but the Cruise moves through the water much nicer. Two very different crafts. If your over 200 go for more stability, under 200 the cruise should be fine. A lot depends on you, and the type of water your in. Demo if you can.

Can we see the hobie outback compared to the new titan

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

nebraskabassboy hopefully soon. I’ve talked to Bryan from Headwaters Redding and he is down to do a video of a Titan Vs PA. So subscribe and been on the lookout for that one.

I just subcribe u channel..gud info bro..

Strange that there is not a single website that has the titan on it

how does the feel free you are showing here compare to the Native Slayer Propel 13?

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

A touch slower, but way easier to handle in skinnier water. It turns much much better. The Lure 13.5 would probably be a better comparison. Maybe I'll do that video down the line at some point. Thanks for watching!

Here’s the only issue I find the lure has with the OD and that’s you have too no buts put blue loc tight on all bolts and Allen screws or the will back out sooner than later mainly the peddle rods too drive

Looks like the titan is a bad ass kayak

This not available in India 😥

Top top

As for me I like the Titan better because it has wider cargo space. and it moves like it should move I think? Opinions are free so there's mine.. LOL

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Until feelfree corrects its steering arm and comes up with a better design id have to go with the native,, yes I do own a feelfree just not sold on the peddle drive due to the issues of the control arm

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

After living with it a few months myself and warrantying out a few, I'd have to agree. The Steering is this boats achilles heel. They are on their 3 generation hand control and it is better, but still not up to industry standards IMO. The new Dorado steering looks to have addressed all the issues of the Lure. I hope they go back and do something about the Lure to make it a better.

@jeffhall4624

6 жыл бұрын

I agree I have 2 lure 11.5 love them but I cant pull the trigger to buy the peddle drive me and gf is looking for a peddle drive , been watching yalls vids on the native and really like that yak ,, my ? is ive notice some water in the boat is that from the drive or from not having scups in seen one where it was from the rudder,,

Feel Free Very Noisy drive. The rhythmic water slip was annoying. Question. Is there an upgrade rudder on the Feel Free? My goal in the Feel Free 13.5 for paddle only. Just wish you were closer than 6 hours away. Or if I could find a shop as friendly and thorough as you guys are.

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

boston2662 if your looking at Feelfree go see Mike over at the Ledge in K-Falls. He always had lots of Feelfree and is a solid dude.

@boston2662

6 жыл бұрын

Headwaters Kayak This is why I love business owner such as yourselves. Customer service first. Share the experience and knowledge to help people out 100%. Thanks for the info. I’ll go check his place out.

Do you have any info on them coming out with a prepackaged combo

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

YEs you can save some bucks by buying it pre installed. We have 60 pre installed boats in their way from the factory now. That will be the way to go for someone who does not own a boat.

@HayDog322

6 жыл бұрын

Headwaters Kayak who much do they cost

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

Haydog _322 $2199 for Lure 11.5. $2399 for 13.5 and $2499 for Lure Tandem

wilderness trapon or radar. is my answer to your question

@chillkayaklife8667

4 жыл бұрын

We dont know about trapons... 😅

They are nice but, that price ! I have a nice kayak with electric motor and high seat and nowhere near that price just saying.

You didn't do a roll over test on either.

Gear shift would be next generation.

Easy to see that the Titan has more room for fishing poles. I can carry 5 poles on my Titan. I don't see room for them on the FeelFree. The knock on my Titan is the rudder is not adequate in the wind. It's fine on calm water but that is rare these days.

@joryv5403

2 жыл бұрын

Get the boondocks rudder. Put it on my 13.5ft slayer max and its not the same kayak

@johnstrand2247

2 жыл бұрын

@@joryv5403 That Kayak was long ago stolen from Highrock Lake. I had already upgraded the rudder system to Kevlar from the sorry steel cable that always broke within hours. In fact, with a steel cable, Native said do not use the Boondox because the cable would break even sooner.

@joryv5403

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnstrand2247 yes, the entire steering system needs revamped on the Natives. I have the newest version of the slayer max and the steering system still needs fully replaced imo. When doing the boondocks, the cables and handle should be replaced also. It makes a very good upgrade with the berkley pro steering system and boondocks rudder!

DOGGO

Osprey don't have feet. !! LOL Are the drives the same ?

My pescador pilot wouldn't even come close on maneuvering.

@HeadwatersKayak

5 жыл бұрын

Kento Wakai true but the top speed is much better. Everything is a trade off.

Wow Brother I Like Kayak Brother I Like Kayak

Hello there, I thought a little wisdom from an old fart-sorry hand, might be of interest to you guys but especially newbees considering which boat to choose. I have paddled kayaks of every type and size for over 50 years- was a club president for over 6 yrs and instructed more beginners than I will ever remember. Some things just don’t change. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PERFECT KAYAK. If there was we would all have one- right? They are all a compromise of the essential/desirable features we want; as in hull speed, stability, weight, internal room and portability. No matter what form of propulsion- paddle, sail, peddle, electric OB or kite- the potential speed of the boat versus stability is almost directly proportional- if you want stability, you sacrifice speed and visa versa. The shorter and fatter the boat the slower you move and again the opposite applies. We are talking displacement hulls OK? ONE ASPECT THAT IS CONSTANTLY OVERLOOKED IS WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION. I rowed at college for 5 years and the selection of the crew positions was as much about fitness and strength as it was about weight and the best balance of the hull- remember we are talking about a looong skinny hull- so yes, weight position matters!! The location of your centre of gravity is critical to comfort and especially the performance of the hull through the water. On a 50 ft, 8 ton cruiser you can stand on the stern and you may as well be a flee on an elephants A- as far as upsetting the trim. In ANY small hull, the SLIGHTEST change of weight position, forward, back or to one side, has a dramatic effect on overall performance; especially when applied over a long distance. By weight I mean the person AND the gear load. It’s often hard to feel this as you slip through the water, somewhat effortlessly but believe me it makes a big difference. A heavy person peddeling one boat is NO comparison to a lighter person in another boat cos the heavier person is displacing far more water, to move through it. By comparison, a lighter person in the same boat would tend to skim across the surface so to speak. Ever watched a fallen leaf skim across the water? As I said, the smaller the hull, especially yaks, the greater the effect of any change in weight variables. Length of hull out of the water is no true indication either as a heavy person will sink the boat deeper and obviously change the wetted waterline. The shorter the boat the greater you sink and the slower you get. Maximum hull speed will change too and you reach that point much sooner, where no amount of extra effort will propel you any faster- Like pushing shit uphill with a pointed stick- sorry Let’s face it, you are not going to peddle/paddle, flat out, all the time! My test of a hulls performance is not rated at its maximum achievable speed in a drag race! Rather, how efficiently can I MAINTAIN the most speed at a comfortable rate of P/Peddle. If you have the luxury of electric or sail then who gives a rat’s Ar-e but your muscles memory will soon tell you what they like and don’t! THAT CAN BE CRITICAL if you find yourself caught out in a big blow on an open lake or ocean and your life depends on maintaining a high level of effort over a long period till you are back to safe harbour!!!! Oh yes it happens- I know- There’s another point to ponder in these small hulls- how much wind resistance all that gear above deck, including your own body, creates. Tracking ability can be a huge factor here too. In a decent wind, constantly fighting the tendencies of the boat to veer off course can waste half your forward power input. Try paddling a Canadian canoe or an 18ft sea kayak in a decent side wind and see what I mean- After so many years of paddling I can maintain a pretty steady cadance of paddle stroke and power. Applied over a decent set time, it is sometimes very surprising, how far one hull will travel through the water, compared to another. That’s far more important to me than flat out speed cos you can’t maintain it! The best speed for me, out of any hull, is the most comfortable effort that I can maintain and the speed it produces. Here endeth the lesson. Above all, stay safe cos conditions on the water can change in a moment without warning or mercy! Bloody crocs! H

@andriykrytskiy1655

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for such an informative comment. This clarifies a lot when choosing a kayak.

The Titan would be bad on the river, because the tail would want to drift you side ways

Are they kayaks or pedal boats? Also I could buy a very nice bicycle for $1000 that comes with pedals and the rest of the bike. A thousand dollars is way too much to turn a kayak into a pedal boat. Although I must say people look super cool while pedaling these things. #gettingfleeced

Where’s the Dorado??

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

March! Dorado vs Titan 13.5 vs Pro Angler. Thats a Video I'd love to watch!

@heavymatters2750

6 жыл бұрын

Headwaters Kayak Can’t wait for this shootout

@Tugyankreel

6 жыл бұрын

I wonder when they will get the dorado too...planning to get a pedal drive in the next few months. Love my atak 140 but I want a pedal drive too.

@HeadwatersKayak

6 жыл бұрын

DeadBondage Ryan March!

@soonerpicker

6 жыл бұрын

Looking to make a purchase in the next couple of months. Not finding much info on the Dorado. Do you recommend holding out for the Dorado or go ahead with the Lure 11.5? Difference in price?

I'm not sure the Titan qualifies as a kayak. It's more like a small bass boat or a dingy. Put dual Coleman 5hp motors on that Titan and turn it loose. LOL