This woman needs to be fired. She is not doing her job so why is she drawing a paycheck!!

@Leann68

10 ай бұрын

Dick Durban needs to be fired.. no prison or jail really helps anyone, the best thing they work for is stopping criminals for a time , nobody changes until or unless they decide to change. Better food wouldn’t hurt , secure our borders.

She is awful . fire her immediately. she has zero guarantees and the job she holds is seriously not being fulfilled...

@Leann68

10 ай бұрын

Stop voting democrat, you heard Dick say he built that prison. They’re trying to earn votes.

@royrodriguez1978

10 ай бұрын

Put her behind bars and make her return her pay.

@ShanonT12

10 ай бұрын

I completely agree. I could do her job 10 times better than she is. I have the qualifications too, and the desire… The real desire to help people. Those that don’t want to be helped… That’s their choice.

She's one of "those" government workers that cuts corners in order to pocket the savings.

@Leann68

10 ай бұрын

You’re right, she’s also lying, she knew what questions were going to be asked , notice she knows nothing off hand , it’s always the same answer, I’ll get back to you. 🙄

@KTM-er3vc

10 ай бұрын

Correct

According to Director Peters, the Federal Bureau of prisons uses psychologists to help determine which prison a person with gender dysphoria is sent to. If any psychologist sends a man to a woman's prison or vice versa, they should have their medical license revoked for malpractice.

@Leann68

10 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@sherryk3055

10 ай бұрын

100% agreed

@Itscooowhentheydoit

10 ай бұрын

Do you know what happens to a transgender man that is assigned to a male prison, or do we just not care?

@nancycrisman7496

10 ай бұрын

@@Itscooowhentheydoit Give them their own area while getting psychological help. Women should NOT be subject to a man in their showers. Period. It’s totally disrespectful to the women.

@bonniebluebonnet

10 ай бұрын

@@Itscooowhentheydoit So you don't care about the women in prison that are raped by MEN claiming to be women?

She is horrible, she should be fired on the spot! She doesn't give a damn about the actual job duties. She is smug.

@bonniebluebonnet

10 ай бұрын

She was most likely an affirmative action hire.

Why do I feel like she thinks all the officers are pieces of shit but the criminals are only misunderstood? What world do we live in?!

@clarkandersen5032

10 ай бұрын

Because she does, I spent 25 plus years in corrections and several years under her command in Oregon. She will do anything she can to decriminalize and treat them like they are victims. Then try to make the staff feel as they are the criminals. She is amazing at twisting numbers to fit her agenda. She is the biggest lying looser I have unfortunately met. If we spent as much on the victims and getting them the help they need from being victimized they would be more productive, the inmates will Continue to be criminals. I could only imagine what the recidivism rate is for the federal system. She won’t have those answer either!

@Leann68

10 ай бұрын

A crazy one ☝🏻 california prisons are really bad , people keep being let out but reoffending quickly, the government doesn’t care.

@VincentArdolino

10 ай бұрын

Yes unless you’re a J6’er, then you must be jailed and re-educated.

@DeziArnezi1206

10 ай бұрын

@@clarkandersen5032amen! Currently working under her (unfortunately), you couldn’t have said that depiction of her more accurately.

@olgamiller216

9 ай бұрын

I think the real question is, what world does SHE live in? Answer: NOT the real world!

Why is she in this position WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ??????

Fire her, NOW

Why then are the J6 Political Prisoners allowed to be treated like animals and not under USA CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS? I find it SHOCKING that citizens that weren't even there are sentenced for YEARS! Show ALL THE J6 VIDEO TAPES!!

@ShanonT12

10 ай бұрын

The Epoch times, has experts, going through all the tapes and have already created a documentary using the tips showing all the bull. In addition, they’re working on a second documentary. After they’re done, the public will be able to have complete access.

@Undergroundsubs-1

3 ай бұрын

6 more just got released+ the shaman and the guy from the Alex Jones show and maybe a few more

I wouldn't say under trained. Under valued, under paid and not enough staff to cover every post and shift is the problem with staff at the Bureau of Prisons.

She's all about Orwellian new speak. She has directed staff to call inmates "AICs" for Adults In Custody... because inmate or convict doesn't give her points with the woke stakeholders.

@cieyennegale8294

10 ай бұрын

Pegged it~!! But did they~?? Some got it & called her out... {But, didn't seem to phase her... didn't miss a beat in her well-rehearsed repertoire & programming...}~ WHY do we hire & pay for the mediocre & such ingratiating 'disingenuous mockingbirds'~!!!??? For such highly important positions knowing they are NOT performing adequately or qualified & are counter-productive, anti-solution & walking contradictions every time they speak...not difficult to see or realize & definitely not dedicated to the critical issues & task at hand...& just speaking well-rehearsed 'word salads'...whilst betraying & mocking those desperately in need of justice & decent food, basic hygiene, clean living & eating accomodations w/properly maintained, functioning & up-to-code heating, plumbing & ac! No need to be treated like slaves or 'dirt'~!! Or just pay 'lip service' & refuse to answer questions or be informed w/intelligent answers & 'positive solutions' that are being created & implemented & making a positive difference... How many decades do we have to talk about & dance around these very serious issues & DO NOTHING to effectively improve any of it... Federal or State-level...???

@jinamg247

8 ай бұрын

Is she who started that when she was in Oregon? That’s what they call them here too and when my husband told me I just laughed. It’s a really really bad joke.

@jinamg247

8 ай бұрын

Also, didn’t you hear? The new term they’re going to be calling them is “clients” 😂😂

@CR500R

8 ай бұрын

@jinamg247 they used to call them clients for a hot second... But currently, it's AICs. It's Orwellian soft language that has a detrimental effect long run. But they don't care. They want a very different vision for the United States. Each one of them subverts cultural norms in their own devious way... it all adds up. The general public is asleep at the wheel, so that's why we're in the sorry shape we're in. Death by a million little cuts.

solitary confinement is normally for violations like fighting, weapons and drugs. the smu was filled with inmates that came from penitentiary that there points went up from violent crimes, introducing drugs attempted escapees. this was that last step they went to before the adx (aka the supermax). now that the smu has been closed. violence and deaths have increased more than ten fold in certain institutions. staff assaults have also increased and no consequences have really been given to the inmates as normal operations typically occur after these events and inmates are not serving disciplinary time.

All the prisons need to be investigated . Women prisoners deserve better and some people running the prisons should be in prison not running the prisons getting paid.

@wooster0015

2 ай бұрын

Don’t blame the prisons or the staff there. It’s not their fault. Blame the administrators at the central office and the politicians who support this garbage.

she is a liar like really takes over a year to get answers unreal this country Fire her

@royrodriguez1978

10 ай бұрын

She is evil, she knows what she is doing.

Why don't they set up the hearing system so that many questions can be submitted a month before the hearing so these nuthags can be somewhat prepared in advance? I know that simple solutions are difficult for the gubbermint to comprehend.

@rhondamyers4936

10 ай бұрын

She had some of their questions. And didn’t answer ones submitted a year ago. She is above them in her mind. And given authority by someone higher. The justice department. Another bureaucrat. Non constitutional .

@OldJoeBlows

10 ай бұрын

Well, that would give answers and not a show. 😂

@guidosarducci4035

10 ай бұрын

True, It would'nt be as much fun to watch if everybody was prepared. I mean, we're only paying most of these people $180k plus a year to screw the American people.@@OldJoeBlows

@DontListenToMe69

10 ай бұрын

They often times do. And yet people still “don’t know” The amount of times I’ve heard “you were aware of what we would ask” during these hearings is insane. They should be penalized IMMEDIATELY when they pull that bull

@jinamg247

8 ай бұрын

Is this a joke? These are the exact same questions they asked her a YEAR ago and she still doesn’t have the answer to those questions.

WE NEED 2 DIFFERENT KINDS OF PRISONS. ONE FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND ONE FOR THE ADMIRALTY MARITIME PIRATES!

@michelbarbeau5085

10 ай бұрын

Would you be willing to carry the monetarily burden as a rightful way to be for all those prison acceptable by inmates choice. Laws would be nonexistent. Like a spoil child throwing tantrum.

@MrsaviMacak

10 ай бұрын

and the nsa/cia need to be fully investigated and held accountable for the crimes against the general us population

@doorkeeper4872

10 ай бұрын

@@MrsaviMacak THAT WOULD BE ADMIRALTY MARITIME COURTS. RESEARCH THE ACT OF 1666. COMMON LAW CONSTITUTION DOESN'T HAVE FBI/CIA ETC.

Colette Peters did the same thing to the Oregon DOC. She focuses on advancing programs that bring her attention (Legacy Building) and puts very little thought into Security and Safety. The reason Officer positions sit open as they fill non-security positions. The beauty of her implementing policies that are security threats is...she will never be in danger. Only the security staff will be.

Why is this woman still have a job? Just fire her! Obviously she's unqualified and or incompetent to do the job! What a shame!

Cant have a non BOP employee running BOP

I’m sure she’s probably being thrown under the bus by higher ups but at least have some answers to protect or at least look like you’re qualified for your position. But to have no answers is just reprehensible. How are you still employed?

@DontListenToMe69

10 ай бұрын

Who is above her?

@jinamg247

8 ай бұрын

No. She is the highest up you can get. She’s the director. There’s no one above her.

Number 1) close the border then 2) prosecute those who continue such behavior to the fullest extent, on the TRANSGENDER PROBLEM HOW ABOUT A COMPLEX FOR THEM AND THEM ALONE.

@dawnhasbroken6304

10 ай бұрын

How about they don't commit crimes because they will be housed with their birth gender peers. The states are now taking on the bill for them to get their surgeries so they are getting incarcerated on purpose to get that free surgery. THAT is the bigger crime. The tax payers are being victimized over and over by these low life grifters.

If you really want to make a difference, how about increasing minimum sentences for repeat offenders, while banning employers from asking if someone has ever been prosecuted. If that person has served his sentence, they have paid their debt to society and are even with the board. If they cannot find work, they will be back.

What world does this lady live in. As a retired Corectional Officer with over 25+ years, it is evident, that she has never been a line staff enployee. If she had been a officer first, she may have a different veiw on how she see, and treats line staff. Spending appox. 5 hours with line staff is really getting to know your staff and show you care. A prison is staffed 24 hrs a day, 265 days a year, you do the math Director Peters, you really care. Also she calls inmates, "Justice Involved Individuals"and uses the term, "Holding their Hands, when helping inmates fill out paperwork for college credits. She makes it sound that inmates are just wonderful individuals. These convicted felons are there for a reason,. They did a crime that so egregious against socity, that they needed to be held accountable. I'll give her one thing, She is a master, at spinning the questions.

As you hold hundreds of American citizens from jan.6 with NO due procces in solitary confinement and it crickets ...the maximum charges are first time tresspassing ....

@lindaconnor7294

10 ай бұрын

Right?!

When we put Durban in prison in 2025, I want this "woman" to be his cell mate

There has been a big push to relabel inmates to a more family friendly name & for more training for staff to not send inmates to SHU. I can tell you from experience that the male inmates who were housed at a female prison were in fact having sex with the female inmates. Also, an inmate only has to fill out a form to be labeled a transgender, but the process to transfer to an opposite sex prison is complicated. But I agree with the senators who grilled her. It is a problem when tax payer dollars are being used to appease trans inmates with hormone replacement therapy, & gender reassignment surgery instead of hiring correctional officers. COs are being mandated to work 16 hour shifts frequently & non-custody staff are being augmented left & right. There definitely is a shortage of staff. Rebranding the BOP as some sort of wonderful work environment is a fantasy. The average BOP retiree dies at 59. That’s a fact. It is stressful. It is hard. It changes your perspective on people too.

I’ve worked at a penitentiary for almost 3 years and I’m glad that our lieutenants , captain, one of our AWs and Warden were officers first. It’s ran how it’s supposed to be ran. We have fights every day, there’s a ton of drugs, weapons, I’ve seen staff assaults and overdoses. It’s gotten worse with the abolishment of the SMU because we got a ton of those inmates in since then. It was a mistake to get rid of it. Clearly she doesn’t care about that. Inmates will always be inmates and the way they are towards us will never change. Sure, a small percentage is actually going to get out and probably try to be good in the world but the majority when they get out will go back to doing what they do best. Deal drugs and murder. I know that because I have developed rapport with them and they literally don’t have a choice. If she knew anything about gang politics she would know but she doesn’t. We need a better and more experienced director. We need to start hiring those who worked the line first hand and experienced that.

Someone said, "She is the most qualified to be the director of federal prisons" ? Lol.just kidding she was given the position based off of gender and not merit, and we all know that's true.

I wish she'd give a straight answer.

That DIRECTOR. First off at LVN we JUST got our 10% RETENTION. The warden and admins KNOW we have a staffing problem and in the 6 years i have been there. We have ALWAYS had a problem, im TIRED my kids are TIRED my Wife is TIRED of me being ALWAYS AT WORK FOR NOTHING. IM LITERALLY WORKING 16 -18-20 hour days for WEEKS SOMETIME 3-4 DAYS IN A ROW. I DONT EVEN HAVE A LIFE. I CANT EVEN ENJOY MY WEEKENDS I HAVE OFF BECAUSE IM RECOVERING. WHEN IM SICK I CANT EVEN RECOVER BECAUSE I DONT EVEN SLEEP AND THE EXPECT US TO BE THE UPMOST THIS AND THAT. WE CANT EVEN WALK IN A STRAIGHT LINE SOMETIMES BECAUSE WERE SO DAMN TIRED. TRYING FOR OUR OFFICERS THAT DIRECTOR IS LIEING OR SOMEONES LIEING TO HER.

It is amazing she doesnt have any real answers when on camera.

@cubmedic

10 ай бұрын

She doesn't give any answers off camera either.

FYI. A real trans would insist to which it off. No breasts, no penis. Then and only then should they be allowed to move to a different prison. My sister in law looks just like a man. She has stopped her transformation bc she realized her rape at a young age was never validated nor the cousin who did it punished. I was validated at 9 . I still feel dirty and ashamed, like it was my fault when I think about it. It was meeting my spouse whom I trusted bc he was trustworthy who helped me get the rest of the way to having some self worth. And I made sure it didn’t happen to my children . It messes with your mind. Bad. Very bad.

The solution to seeing less in solitary confinement is for the inmates to behave, not do what they do to have the consequence of solitary confinement. Pretty simple...

Ive watched these hearings year after year. The obvious answer... it to not answer.. Winning through incompetence. Don't answer... you win. Act stupid ... you win. Just play stupid.. you win.

I wouldnt be surprised if she actually works for the cartel

@bonniebluebonnet

10 ай бұрын

You mean the Biden Crime Family?

She should be incarcerated until the J6 prisoners are released and full restitution made for their false imprisonment.

They are prisoners!! Tough crap!! Easiest way to not be unhappy in prison, It’s super simple!!! DONT break the law!!!! They are prisoners!!! Tough crap!!!

Very inhuman

America is circling the drain

she spent all the money on outside consultants to tell her the problems she already knows she has

BEST ADVICE FOR CURRENT BOP STAFF: ………QUIT……… BOP IS A JOKE THERE IS OTHER PLACES TO WORK FOR SHIT MONEY WITH NO MANDOS!

failed state

there is so much being discussed to help criminals , what is being done for victims ? 🙏🌍🕊🇺🇲♥️

@DeziArnezi1206

10 ай бұрын

Agreed! And the fact she has the audacity of giving both criminals AND victims the exact same title. Having worked under her before… This women is a disgrace.

My multiple Decades of experience with people like this that's convinced me now that we shouldn't have women in power the b******* answers that she provides the this is my terminology that I use Office skates the real issues and I find her based on what the Senators are saying to be ineffective at her job. Impeach impeach impeach

@elainaphillips8187

6 ай бұрын

Seriously? There are many qualified women that could do that job. Not many of the male directors were any better. As long as it's all tied up in useless hearings like this, with politicians, mostly white men, running things, the BOP doesn't have a chance of improvement.

Sadly, nothing about the J6 prisoners being held in substandard prisons and are being treated abhorrently.

@LaLaLoggins

9 ай бұрын

that's what I was watching this for. Thanks for the heads up so I wouldn't be wasting my time. Sick of watching liars lie and keep their jobs

Bringing in outside consultants and not changing policy is a real good way to make it look like your doing your job...

When is the DC jail going to being clean up of the guards. We all have knowledge of how j6ers were treated.

And this is our government. I love how when asked a simple yes or no question they just start talking nonsense.

Makes sense that Miss Lindsey would have a particularly keen interest in gender issues at prisons.

This woman's word of the day was “Diligent". For what I don't know

@jinamg247

8 ай бұрын

For diligently dodging questions.

Her academic Language is sickening

I would love to know where all this tech is being used. There are a few pilot programs but it's always the cheapest and crappiest systems and it's not BOP wide. The BOP is years behind states prisons as far as tech, teams, and generally being proactive. It was all fluff no substance. There are more Central Office staff than there are CO's in a lot of joints.

How many outside people does this lady need to hire to tell her how to do things? How much $ is being wasted to outside contractors/consultants?

how does she manage to have ANSWERS for Dems but not for Republicans???? Has she been coached?

My thing is why the hell are we prioritizing this over the bigger issues?

@Leann68

10 ай бұрын

It’s an election year.

When a person is incarcerated, they lose some of their rights!! They should!! Lose rights. They are criminals, broke the law! Felony crimes. Make prison system super unattractive, make it terrible, difficult, tough living conditions. It’s not, that’s why a lot of criminals, reoffend. It’s not terrible going to prison for these thugs!!! Shame on you people wanting better conditions for prisoners.

Isn't his sentiment just so precious about solitary confinement and what it does to a criminal's mind? Can you imagine what the j's 6 years are going through? They've been in isolation for what over 2 years. So he can blow that out his g****** a**If he wants to show concern and drop a few tears, he needs to look at the j sixers, they aren't even criminals.

Ohh okay so the Attorney General is who appoints the position of this job. Hes got some questions to answer for sure.

She's dead wrong about staffing. Staffing is and has been the number one issue in ALL things in the BOP! All of the programs the Senators discussed are essential and run by staff. The prisons have been dangerously understaffed for decades, more severely so in the last 10 years. You will never have safe and secure prisons without enough staff.

2:50 10 years nothing better ! great job ! fired !

Time to shut down the prison industrial 🏭 complex

THAT is one of THE BIGGEST problems. MANY wouldn't be there if they got the medical needs met they may never have committed the crimes they did, if they did. there are many people who are innocent. That are locked up because the public has no where else to send them. Don't sugar coat it! I almost feel like private prisons are a terrible idea. They HAVE to have people in those prisons to make their PROFIT. So, let's call our cop buddies to surveil people and bust them ANY way they can and boom, beds are filled. This is a huge, HUGE problem. When crime becomes profitable, mistakes and HUGE ones are made. When someone can become a felon with no evidence against them its a problem.

So Senator, it's quite complex. Lock her up

I wish the bop would take the money to figure out how to hire staff and give it to the employees. Another option would be close all the regional offices and put them back in to the institution's to help with staff shortages and day to day operations. The problem with hiring would be resolved.

There's never enuf staff. Put more guards in there. They don't like being beat up, have feces thrown at them, at work.

Give a woman power nothing worth while will be fixed

Sniff, sniff... I smell a stacked deck covered in poopy! Five mins in & I realize that if I watched the whole thing, I'd be in danger of losing IQ points. How funny, 24K views & only 320 "likes"... That says a lot!

How in the world is giving answers, difficult??? That takes time???? Unless you are lying or dishonest. Super simple!!

We need President Trump back in office. Too many nuts in charge now

How long does it take to move prisoners with a penis away and out of being around women. Women that are raped in prison should sue the person that allows that to happen.

Summary: I really care about inmates and do not care at all about my staff 😂😂

I so tired of this woman, saying “ we are trying “ “ we are working on that problem “ Do your job, are be fired!!!

What was the date of this hearing? I would be interested to know if it was before January 6. Prisons have gotten so lackadaisical for prisoners. This illegal that killed someone in Brazil and then came to America and brutally stabbed his girlfriend Close to 40 times and then broke out of prison and went on the wrong for 14 days costing taxpayers over $1 million a day it’s supposed to go into solitary confinement for a long time As a flee Rask. Prisoners now have smart phones iPads canteen and which they can get televisions radios any snack they want. We now have people committing crimes so they can go to jail and have a free roof over their heads for the rest of their lives. No more living on the streets no more no knowing where the next meal is coming from. We don’t even have enough jobs for our law abiding workforce. Do you know what used to work for prisoners is for them to live out there days of life in prison Mark working hard labor building roads during the jobs that no one else wants to do as they say that the illegals are needed for. These people have become too soft on crime and crime has become rampant. I don’t get it. They can even have the girls come in and service them whenever needed. Safe and humane conditions as if that’s what they gave to their victims. I don’t know how many senators watch TikTok KZread and Instagram but these prisoners are literally going on channels and doing interviews. Or they get their word out to KZreadrs and be like telling them how they literally have drones flying drugs and to the prisons and supplying whatever you need. senators are so freaking naïve especially on the Democratic side. They are all for defined the police release the prisoners and loosen the chains on murderers so I can weasel their way out of them and break their way free. You are dealing with the slickest of the slick! You got biological males wanted to transition and go to female prisons who the hell is paying for their transitioning? Not me! Not the taxpayers? But I guess we aren’t We? How are these policies being changed? Is this some of the crap that the Democrats stuff and has a 5000 page bills that they put before congressional leaders? You people have absolutely nothing better to do than to sit on your ass is in Washington and figure out how to throw away the taxpayer money in progress so far and that our children for 100 years will never recover maybe longer. It’s disgusting to sit in our homes and watch what you are doing and Washington DC.

if u were waiting to hear about jan 6ers horrible treatment and what can be done to help them, ur SOL. The Senate could care less about THEM.

What Paper pushing warden snitches on his own facility instead of JUST FIXING the problems. None of the people in this entire video has ever had piss and feces thrown on them. They only read doctored reports. This is a sweet version of some white collar juvenile facility. I don’t agree with torture but to make remarks about the professionals who perform correctional duties better than any state, county or city facility and far better than the private companies doing it. Even amidst shortages, low pay grades and being stuck in remote areas of the country.

How can you not know how many employees work under you?

How many women who now identify as men are put in a man's prison. And would the authority allow for this and if not why not. Wouldn't that be sexist if it wasn't allowed.?

Put us on 12hr shifts please

Build more prisons and put her in it. See if she is misunderstood.

Ummmm it's prison what do you think. Should it be like a country club???

Nice brealian policy for reported.satisfaction report....good bless and secured sinsord original deplomat honest back round...

Prime example of a person that was clearly not prepared... Just showed up.

Prison exist to prevent any criminal from committing future crime against the society, Not a condo living at the society expenses.

1:45 YOU WANTED A SHOWCASE ? SO WHAT did you do to keep an eye on it ? NOTHING !!

They didn't get ride of the torture in Colorado

🗣Some People Need To Fear Their Last Breath When They Stand Before Jesus And Give A Full Account!

Inmates in restrictive housing and John McCain...........that's a bold statement to compare the two, if not at least ignorant. Side note restrictive housing and solitary confinement are not the same thing and it seems like they are using the term in an interchangeable manner.

@iquitnow

10 ай бұрын

Bro there are mexican mafia dudes and AB dudes in the hole in Colorado for 30 years straight coming out for 6 hrs for every 7 days. JUST FOR BEING A MEMBER

Seems we need to abolish the FBI, DOJ, DHS and every employee, clerk, source, etc. Start over and do it right this time,

WTF!!!!! how is this something that happens??????? This democrats party is completely insane they are GONE!! THIS IS EVIL STUFF

37:48 she was thinking “I bet they’ll get me on this tomorrow, let me request a facility” lmfaooo

“I’ll have to get back to you on that”….. It’s seems she never gets back any answers from the last time she was questioned.

Wow, never thought I'd hear this.

The treatment, if you want to call it that, to prevent recidivism is addressing peoples spirit. We all have one and there’s a lot that goes on in that realm that has not been studied. However, I recommend that everyone go to a deliverance service. The Catholics call it an exorcism. Everyone of these incarcerated people are struggling with entities. All of these entities can be cast out and 100% healing can take place. As I said, you can watch it happen, and see… Yes, see the difference. There are organizations that do this very thing under the radar, and there are waiting lists of people wanting this help. If people want freedom from their past bad decisions, they can have it. Complete freedom. It’s absolutely amazing to watch. Grown men cry, because any move in the spirit is emotionally intense.

Yes

16:32 “I think we always need to do more” sounds a lot like “I want a raise”

Durbin has the voice of a reptile.

Like i get it... but teach them trades. Dont take pell away from people ourside who need it

As a natural Person what’s being said consideration gov, statutes determination Transform could this be Excepted.

With consent without consent?

All she said was corporate speak. She didn’t say anything of value to the topic.