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@grieversnow

5 жыл бұрын

that sounds surprisingly great when slowed.

@wobblysauce

5 жыл бұрын

+

@wastelander1015

5 жыл бұрын

Jim, check Todd Howard's interview to IGN, I think you have pleeeeeenty of material in there to talk about

@oddball_hb

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't know you where gay. Neat.

@TheSunBro

5 жыл бұрын

They need to unionize. Easier said than done but it NEEDS to happen!

They should start every GTA-title with a "all characters are purely fictional, but inspired by current or former parts of the Rockstar™ management"-disclaimer.

@KnownAsKenji

5 жыл бұрын

I was gonna post something like this. It's just funny how the degeneracy of the characters in the entire GTA series has been one of its most identifying traits and long-standing traditions. And it ends up being true to life. You can't write this shit. Boy I've said 'you can't write this shit' for a lot of things this year. Interesting year.

@crazyluigi6664

5 жыл бұрын

You meant or in that first of from that statement there. P.S., All we had to do is follow the damn worker's rights advocates!

@Emanouche

5 жыл бұрын

As much as I love Rockstar games, I couldn't help but think during the video: "Oh, that's where the inspiration for those games come from".

@dvt1393

4 жыл бұрын

@Jay L Um... What?

@m8xm153n8r

11 ай бұрын

@@Emanoucheyeah am much as I love gta I’m not surprised by any of this

Beatings will continue until morale improves.

@backlogbuddies

5 жыл бұрын

Kmfdm fan?

@ShinNisse

5 жыл бұрын

Paradox.

@noahgray543

5 жыл бұрын

This is why it's always best to hire masochists.

@loopholesloopy

5 жыл бұрын

Kdfdm sucks

@koenvandamme6901

5 жыл бұрын

*Hums "Where there is a whip there is a way"*

So GTA is their self-insert fanfic, then.

@noahbossier1131

4 жыл бұрын

yeah.

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought "repeatedly press X" to run was the dumbest control scheme in gaming.

@D_YellowMadness

5 жыл бұрын

It especially sucks if you're left handed. Mashing a button with my right hand while trying to control GTA5's weird physics can be problematic at times. Bicycles aren't fun. Actually, maybe it would be even worse if I were right handed because I'd have to control the weird physics with my nondominant hand. "It's stupid" is the point I'm trying to make.

@MrWilson812

5 жыл бұрын

I've been saying for a while that their games feel far more like you're directing a a character or giving suggestions rather then controlling them. It makes so much sense now.

@MrWilson812

5 жыл бұрын

@KoalasOnFire Playing GTA V actually made me miss Saints Row. Those games may be unabashed rip offs, but they do basic movement and combat so much better.

@doubledouble4g379

5 жыл бұрын

IKR? I thought we had this figured-out WAY back in 1996 with flippin' Mario 64 - push the thumbstick a little to creep, a bit more to walk, halfway to jog, a bit more to jog faster, all the way to run. It was so good, Sony released a controller with TWO thumbsticks! Frees-up the X button to do all sorts of interesting, sexy things, like pressing it to pay respects ;)

@Redem10

5 жыл бұрын

The Iron Man run in GTA V litterally hurted my thumb

Holy shit Rockstar actually looks like a company straight out of their own game, GTA

@Revenante_of_Asylum

5 жыл бұрын

Grand Theft Auto-biographies, amirite?

@thestwinner680

5 жыл бұрын

They had to get their story ideas *somewhere...* :P

@howaboutno5992

5 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Manhunt, Bully, and State of Emergency. Seriously Barrero himself sounds like he waltzed straight out of the fucking Innocentz or Pervs

@sethbritton6970

5 жыл бұрын

Write what you know?

@thestwinner680

5 жыл бұрын

@@FatfighterXD1 Either that, or the execs are so arrogant and ostentatious they knew, or even blatantly created that theme and didn't care, thinking it would throw off the reflection of their true image, as the game is a fictional, satirical parody - you know, "the darkest place is underneath the candlestick." ;]

You've been straying from games journalism in recent years (not that it's a bad thing). But when you do games journalism, you truly knock it out of the park. Keep being you, Jim!

So he fires people on a whim, has a violently mercurial temper, and can blow up at them for laughing with him at the wrong time? Remember that dumb trope with the villain who acts all buddy-buddy with an underling before brutally caving in their skull for petty reasons? Barrera sounds like that villain.

@mellochello921

5 жыл бұрын

Like handsome jack?

@flamingskullzee00

5 жыл бұрын

@@mellochello921 tuco?

@LJMiho

5 жыл бұрын

Kinda reminds me of the Kingpin.

@AdvancePlays

5 жыл бұрын

I'm funny how, you mean funny like I'm a clown?

"They didn't want to improve the gameplay because they were more focused on it being a cinematic experience." To think that's the kind of thing we used to joke about with some game publishers.

@BigEvil316

5 жыл бұрын

I don't get it. Why can't make it more fun with BEING a cinematic experience????? I mean how stupid they can be.

@frostthron8009

5 жыл бұрын

@@BigEvil316 because there are not infinite assets and manpower to do everything at once. Probably improving a lot game play mechanic meant they had to hire a lot of ne talents and pay for them by cutting on other parts of the game. They didn't see it as an absolute need to go over budget and delay the game when they already gonna sell like crazy

@StrazdasLT

5 жыл бұрын

"cinematic experience" is codeword for "we wanted to make a movie, but we arent good enough"

@dynostretch9215

5 жыл бұрын

@@StrazdasLT I'm convinced a lot of these game developers and publishers have become like David Cage, in that they're so pretentious now that they think if they keep pushing this "cinematic" angle that they'll eventually be allowed to become Hollywood film makers.

TIL Vice City was just about a night out with Rockstar management.

@movement2contact

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure most people did, because of the suggestive editing... :3

@santacruisin

5 жыл бұрын

MACKA!!

Well, this explains why Rockstar was so happy about their horse testicles.

@Castdeath

5 жыл бұрын

Horses don't exist though (please tell me you get this reference)

@guanomonobob

5 жыл бұрын

@@Castdeath That a fresh reference right there

@kelseymtf8345

5 жыл бұрын

@@Castdeath ah yes I'm gonna sell my underwater home to the non existent horses :D

@DavidJCobb

5 жыл бұрын

@@Castdeath i can't even find a photo of one that isn't obviously photoshopped. if you turn the levels up, you can see where the edits arent cut out properly

@gavril1436

5 жыл бұрын

r/outoftheloop :(

I live in Connecticut. There are tales of Rockstar/Take 2 execs being at our casinos. A famous one is an exec getting a craps dealer removed from the table. FOR SMILING AT HIM.

@hectorgeoffrey6821

5 жыл бұрын

CaptainRufus damn that’s cold. Was this at Mohegan?

@rufuslandale1659

5 жыл бұрын

@@hectorgeoffrey6821 in the interests of security I can neither confirm nor deny.

@gavril1436

5 жыл бұрын

That's impressive. To be known in the local community for being an ass at a casino. If it was a one time thing, people wouldn't talk about it much, but clearly these guys are jerks on the reg. If I hadn't seen the video already and heard this, I would not have been surprised at the contents of the video. I wonder how many other communities have stories about bad management (not just games industry, but that would be an interesting stat).

@swinehouse

5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting.

@JimRaynorRaider

5 жыл бұрын

@@hectorgeoffrey6821 has to be. its the most well known casino

A few years ago, I had the dream of quitting my IT job and become an asset/character modeler in the game industry. I really learned a lot, all the methods and tools and stuff, and then I slowly discovered under which conditions these people work. I scratched this carreer idea pretty soon.

@hayk3000

4 жыл бұрын

And videogames lost a potential talented artist because of capitalism.

This video is scary in so many ways. It's fine, I wasn't planning on sleeping anyway, like Rockstar's employees.

@DV-ou1yu

5 жыл бұрын

😎

@darkxaur

5 жыл бұрын

It's largely down to that picture of Zeudo, though.

@JaceCavacini

5 жыл бұрын

Every industry has this kind of shit, yes, but some companies and some industries are far more toxic than others. I have been learning about how utterly full of petulant man-children the architecture business is through the friend of a woman who’s discovered it first hand. From business to business, it’s like a playpen for men with shit for social skills and/or emotional regulation. The games business attracted the basement dwellers who never developed their social skills, and the great luck of the ones who had sudden success and wealth insured that they never needed to develop those social skills beyond age 12. Other outcasts are forced to become better people, while the lucky guys who made it big early in the game industry seemed to discover an out from maturity of any kind.

Those are the same types of interpersonal tactics used by abusive spouses and parents, to constantly keep their victims uncertain, and thus disempowered :(

@evernever9877

5 жыл бұрын

Did you hear guys?mail Jim rainbow ties by the boat load

@RemixedVoice

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome to corporate...

@theomegajuice8660

5 жыл бұрын

Makes you worry about what their home life is like. If they act like that in a work environment with an audience then god knows what they do with just their wives and/or kids.

@ragnar97

5 жыл бұрын

@@RemixedVoice Exactly, lol. Kind of amazed people are surprised by this. This is how it has always worked at an executive level, at least for the last 100-200 years.

@ragnar97

5 жыл бұрын

​@@theomegajuice8660 Not really. I know from my own experience, not because I've done it but because I've seen it up close, more often than not they act very different at home and for the most part wives and kids have no idea, and those who do, usually are ok with it/not bothered. Kinda like serial killers. Neighbours, family, friends, etc are always surprised precisely because they showed none of those tendencies at home but when they did show, family and the rest either just went along with it, were in denial or turned a blind eye, the first one and the last one being the most common.

The anonymous whistleblowers at Rockstar are true saints, and it's deeply important to hear from them, most people just don't even know about crunch or mistreatment of workers in the video game industry, or just don't know how bad it is. Truly, thank you.

This is exactly why game devs need to unionize. I don't want to play games made by literally beating people into submission.

Thanks Jim, you are doing a worthwhile job. 👍🏾

@andypandy8192

5 жыл бұрын

Jim mother bluffing sterling son is the sexiest man ive ever been attracted to as a straight male.. Thank god for him.

Rockstar: I CAN'T BE TOUCHED Jim Sterling: Hold my shrimp

@jurriaanb3879

5 жыл бұрын

Dammit, I can't like this comment without it going from 69 to 70 likes. Consider this comment my like to you!

@dasdaro

5 жыл бұрын

Yay Fart sniffing Jim sterling fans.

@17joren

5 жыл бұрын

Jurriaan B well now there are 120 likes, so you can do it while you’re here to read my comment :3

@jurriaanb3879

5 жыл бұрын

@@17joren it may have gone over but atleast it wasn't me. My memetegrity still stands XD

@k96man

5 жыл бұрын

Is that why the stuffing was leaking out?

The game industry honestly seem to be one of the most toxic industries a professional can work in

@RoraxPlays

5 жыл бұрын

Any company at this level of corporate structure is this bad. Its just that Jims lens is in games coverage. He even mentions this in the beginning of the video

@helloofthebeach

5 жыл бұрын

@@RoraxPlays Yeah this is endemic to modern corporate culture. The games industry is interesting because it's so new and the companies don't have as much history with things like organized labor, but the problems games are having tracks closely to the rest of our economic culture.

@gavril1436

5 жыл бұрын

Really? That's disturbing. I suppose the rest of the world has a better shroud around it than the games industry since it's so new... and general news media just isn't interested in bringing this to light. This is so... frustrating. The majority of people just go with what they're told to do, and don't think for themselves. This is why govt is so fucked up it can't change anything. People vote in people just out for themselves, or they're former employers, or are just useless.

@poncho3326

5 жыл бұрын

@@RoraxPlays I agree overall, but I'd say the lack of any form of unionisation whatsoever makes the gaming industry particulary dreadfull

@KimAlmighty1

5 жыл бұрын

it seems to be more of a US problem as EU have Employment Laws that is for the protection of the employed from abuse of the employer.

"Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to piss a rainbow and scream trans rights into the sky." Godspeed, Jim. Godspeed.

Rockstar higher-ups are all on the casino's, strippers and parties... they've played too much GTA

@theblackbaron4119

5 жыл бұрын

They just live it and all of you finance their lifestyles by buying GTA online crap and red dead stuff

@RemixedVoice

5 жыл бұрын

The Black Baron I think it's safe to say that you'll find very few people on this channel who fund these parties lmao.

@razvandavid1510

5 жыл бұрын

@@theblackbaron4119 It's sort of funny and sad at the same time because people that have played and still do play GTA Online help finance the extravagant lifestyles of Rockstar executives regular people can only dream of. These regular people can only get a game-y glimpse of this lifestyle, which is in fact a reality for a select few.

@GeorgeNoiseless

5 жыл бұрын

Surely it's the other way around. A piece of art is a reflection of the creator.

@starmanjay3047

5 жыл бұрын

You nailed it. Why are Rockstar's games filled to the brim with vice & debauchery? Because the people in charge really believe that's how life works.

*insert copy paste lawyer-approved, company response, now with 5% more striving to improve*

@theomegajuice8660

5 жыл бұрын

Drinking game. Take a shot for each mention of "disgruntled", "dissappointed" and "expression of regret" rather than a actual apology.

@kwazhims3lf

5 жыл бұрын

very genuine very sincere

@cecollins68

5 жыл бұрын

*we hear your feedback, and are listening*

@ManoredRed

5 жыл бұрын

Modern public relations are a disgrace to humanity.

The more that's uncovered about the video game industry the less I want to play new games.

@ytnukesme1600

5 жыл бұрын

you should probably be less if non from these companies.

@gavril1436

5 жыл бұрын

Don't really understand what that other guy was trying to say. but I agree about this for the AAA games. The "AA" and indie games don't seem to have this problem (or at least it's only for a few of them; I doubt it's as pervasive but I'm sure it exists somewhere).

@swinehouse

5 жыл бұрын

Heartbreaking at times, isn’t it?

@fropps1

5 жыл бұрын

Play more games from smaller devs instead. There _are_ places who treat their devs well, but they often struggle to stay afloat in the shadow of bigger devs with bigger titles.

@TheNukaColaMan10

5 жыл бұрын

Look at it this way, the more we weed out these bad things, the better things will get in the future

So a developer got fired for not only doing his job, but for suggesting (and actively trying) to improve Rockstar's outdated gameplay?

@whaddyamean99

5 жыл бұрын

RDR2's mechanics are much more interesting than rdr1, the gameplay still has miles to go. I stopped doing any side missions and camp shit after chapter 3 because it was so dull and pointless. They have a big world, and yet it feels so empty. The linearity of the game just detracts so much from what it could be. Nakeyjakey did A fantastic video about it

@biozelink6086

3 жыл бұрын

@@whaddyamean99 Western developers are obsessed with being cinematic, completely ignoring the fact they're actually making games. Ignoring the unique aspects and storytelling possibilities of gaming, in favour of making pale imitations of the mostly mindless Hollywood content...

I'll have one crunch time, one crunch time large, a mismanagement allegation, two allegations of abuse, one with misogyny, and a large 100 work-hour week.

@charlx8979

5 жыл бұрын

Touch my Pudinzinho oh good meme sir, you win the internet today

@greenhowie

5 жыл бұрын

Man, if you can stay nasty and bully your employees, while all around others are getting bad press for misconduct, then you Rockstar, dawg.

@wokeupinapanic

5 жыл бұрын

Do you want lies with that?

You know things are bad when Jim doesnt thank God for Jim.

@charlesballiet7074

5 жыл бұрын

meh... cant expect too much from a guy who wants james charles to touch his wewe

@turtleanton6539

5 жыл бұрын

@@charlesballiet7074 who is that

Sounds like Randy Pitchford been taking notes from Rockstar the whole time

@larshansson1953

5 жыл бұрын

Shit, this makes Randy look almost decent.

@user-rx3js1no3s

5 жыл бұрын

LOL

@Castdeath

5 жыл бұрын

It's most tech companies really .. wasn't too long since Data Camp had a fuck up because of coRpEraTe pArTiEs, I now know that's a big massive fucking red flag to avoid.

@cwilliams0889

5 жыл бұрын

@@larshansson1953 Yeah. Almost.

@gavril1436

5 жыл бұрын

I googled data camp and a quick search is a little confusing. What is Data Camp and what happened with them? I don't follow the rest of the tech industry much; I didn't know this was a thing outside the games industry too.

Lets face it, this is the way corporate America , nepotism, cronyism, clicks, and/or sucking up to upper management.

@PatkaBoy831

5 жыл бұрын

I love it.

@allengordon6929

4 жыл бұрын

And it's run by brit brothers.

@yunix2396

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like typical school life.

When an industry follows a blacklist, they are complicit in the behavior that created the blacklist. I want to know who honored Rockstar's blacklists, they deserve hell for their part in all this.

@iPwnYorFace

5 жыл бұрын

wouldn't be surprised if all the major AAAs honor each others' blacklists. It's a fucking oligarchy

@evillecaston

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly, that's the tech industry at large. I bet I'm on that list as well, and I wasn't the one doing anything illegal.

@AkumaADemoncus

5 жыл бұрын

In a perfect world, employees would recognize a "black company" and no one would be willing to work there causing the company to go out of business. But just like gambling aimed at children, the industry is just not capable of regulating itself because too many people are stupid as hell and willing to let themselves be exploited. Combine that with the ever increasing specialization of job roles and the erasure of entry level jobs that require no work experience (besides mcjobs and sales jobs) leading to a bunch of desperate degree holding young people ripe for exploitation. Imagine the only way of getting a job in your field requiring you to get an unpaid internship with no guarantee of landing the job while you have to deal with your student loans, cost of living, and housing only to dig yourself in a hole. Then to rub salt in the wounds it turns out the job you studied for is now being outsourced to another country or being phased out completely because an AI or a robot has been built that can do the job cheaper so you have to go back to school for several years to try and get another degree only for it to repeat itself all over again.

@Castdeath

5 жыл бұрын

@AkumaADemoncus It's fucking absurd really, even when your doing degrees people keep saying are the most employable (BSc in Computer science and MSc in Data Science) the little twats still expect you to be prepackaged. So, we have to sit and literally make looking for a job our job ... and even get paid for it. It's funny how they managed to move the cost of training to the labour force and the government...

@mellochello921

5 жыл бұрын

@@AkumaADemoncus my god

They fired the guy who wanted to fix my biggest issue with the game. Bummer.

@valettashepard909

5 жыл бұрын

Right? It’s always been one of the biggest turnoffs for me whenever it comes to Rockstar’s games. I’d be like, ooh, that story sounds really interesting! But then remember that it’s a rockstar game so your character is probably gonna have the turning radius of a cruise ship and the responsiveness of a comatose person in molasses.

@DauthEldrvaria

5 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Weber Seriously... think of GTA5 and RDR2 without those shitty care bear auto aim systems...

@Ckoz2829

5 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Weber For real. As much as I liked RDR2, there are two settings for the aim assist: “Here, let me do it”, and “fuck off, you’re on your own”. I know aiming with a controller is hard, but you don’t have to hold my hand. NakeyJakey has a pretty entertaining and informative video about it that brings up a ton of good points. You should watch that assuming you haven’t already.

@halofreak1990

5 жыл бұрын

@@Ckoz2829 I always take the “fuck off, you’re on your own” option (if available) with regard to aim assist. I've yet to find the first game where it _doesn't_ get in my way. And in nearly all games I've played that had the option to turn off aim assist, the difference, at least for me, is negligible.

@SleepyDroid

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah why wouldn't you want your game to be better, no just fire the guy.

Wow...I remember about two years ago Rockstar NY was hiring for a graphic designer and I'd applied but never got a response back. I'd never been SO happy to not get hired. Bullet bloody well dodged!

@crazyluigi6664

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. Kind of reminds me of when I first went to college back in 2010 (if not months before that), I did have some interest with video game programming myself. I was someone felt giddy about idea of coding at the time, and while it was a challenge to do, coding was still of interest for me. However, one professor I had said it best (and I'm paraphrasing what he said to one of my classes there): once you know the ins and outs of video game development, you're interest in it wanes significantly. That's why I went on graduate with web design and development in mind instead. Of course, part of me feels I might have made a mistake there nowadays, but I am at least glad to have learned what I had at that time there.

This entire industry needs to unionize if it's going to improve let alone survive long term.

@jondoe5937

5 жыл бұрын

The unfortunate side effect of a passion career is that there's no reason for the industry to entertain the idea of unionization since there's a virtually unlimited supply of warm bodies. Gamers need to start following and recognizing key developers rather than giving human-like identity to companies as if Rockstar, EA, Bethesda, Microsoft, and Activision-Blizzard were literally singular amorphous hivemind entities. Brand name needs to lose its value, and individual human beings need to be given more credit - and with it, better treatment.

@marcelguillen9235

5 жыл бұрын

@@jondoe5937 they just need to unionize man dont try and go around it

@marcelguillen9235

5 жыл бұрын

@Charles Lee cool. Let's give devs no collective bargaining power and let them be abused for the rest of this shitty industry's existence

@jondoe5937

5 жыл бұрын

​@@marcelguillen9235 Unions only work if the number of workers in it is greater than the ones who aren't part of it. Unionization's power comes from being able to force employers not to be unreasonable. The video game industry is not going to give a shit about that because of how replaceable qualified employees are. Look at other attempts at unionization in passion careers, like people who work at Disney World, and how they struggle to get the Big Mouse to cooperate at all, and how they barely manage to get the company to pay park employees a livable wage.

@jondoe5937

5 жыл бұрын

@Long duk dong I feel like that's a totally different issue, only relevant by correlation. How does unionization fix it?

So Rockstar fired the one guy who was going to fix their broken combat?

@danielramsey6141

5 жыл бұрын

Goes to show you how smart these assholes are.

@thelegendaryklobb2879

5 жыл бұрын

More importantly, they fired him BECAUSE he was trying to fix the broken combat. On top of all the problems mentioned, the higher ups are also stupidly prideful

@butt317

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder if they've fired employees who try to improve mission design, too... That shit's stuck in the early 2000s still

@silverdragon122

5 жыл бұрын

Of course. That's just good business !

@sirapple589

5 жыл бұрын

Jumbo Jango NakeyJakey has a really good video dissecting Rockstar gameplay and solutions on how to fix it.

So Rockstar management didn't get the memo that you're not actually supposed to act like the characters in their games

@JossCard42

5 жыл бұрын

You make what you know.

@foxmcld584

5 жыл бұрын

They figure they can duck inside their [multi-million dollar] houses until the stars go away.

@Wastingsometimehere

5 жыл бұрын

It's so bad I wouldn't be shocked if they don't own cars and just carjack their way to work and back.

@thestwinner680

5 жыл бұрын

@@JossCard42 LOL yeah, they had to get their story ideas _somewhere!.._ xD

@thestwinner680

5 жыл бұрын

@@Wastingsometimehere That's how they worked their way to the top - DISCLAIMER: This Is Not A Crime Endorsement.

This is one of the best videos you've ever done Jim. Excellent journalism, and I'm so glad that the perpetrators of these horrifying behaviors and management practices are being dragged kicking and screaming into the light. No game is worth anyone's mental health or relationships! While game creation is a long and difficult process, it most certainly does *not* require that kind of toll from developers. What it does, require, though is good management - and that seems to be what all of these AAA companies lack.

I'm not surprised that Sadism Simulator genre games were made by companies run by sadists.

I actually know Jeronimo Barrera a little bit, he is one of my uncle’s oldest friends. He always seemed pretty nice whenever he visited my uncle, and he even offered me an internship at Rockstar when I was a late teenager. I am so glad that he never followed through with his promise.

So basically the upper management at Rockstar are literally the worst NPC's from GTA 4. I'm not surprised.

@Haan22

5 жыл бұрын

Wanna bet the writers had their inspirations close at hand?

@EminemLovesGrapes

5 жыл бұрын

They're just like Hollywood!

Unionize Game Developers.

@longlostwraith5106

5 жыл бұрын

In the age of apathy?! Not a chance. Rights have to be earned with literal blood, and nowadays couch warriors can't do anything.

@crazyluigi6664

5 жыл бұрын

@@longlostwraith5106 Not unless it relates to hacking in worse case scenarios, of course. That, or terrorist pieces of shit.

@-Trauma.

5 жыл бұрын

Gelatinous Boss: *sexually harasses one of his male employees* Male Employee: *tears up* "I have bills to pay...I can do this...oh, his hand is on my inner thigh...have to go through...with this...can't get another job...doing general labor...too lazy...have to sacrifice dignity and...virginity."

@mattrostov2642

5 жыл бұрын

Commie fuck

@Jockberg

5 жыл бұрын

@@mattrostov2642 Piece of shit human.

i don't understand how this industry hasn't imploded yet. Longer development times, more costs, more manpower, higher, more brutal, demands...

@R3QV13m

5 жыл бұрын

because the current market hasn't completely imploded yet

@phoenixomega3641

5 жыл бұрын

Whales

@StrazdasLT

5 жыл бұрын

because it has the most rabit fanboys and whales.

This is what actual games journalism looks like. Thank god for folks like Jim and Super Bunnyhop.

@thestwinner680

5 жыл бұрын

* thank God for "Me" ;P \V/

@heno02

5 жыл бұрын

*edit:* disregard what I said, I'm an idiot. Jim did the due diligence expected of a journalist.

@docterfantazmo

5 жыл бұрын

My OTP... *rubs face*

@KomamuraSajin

5 жыл бұрын

I agree to a point: I love Mr. Sterling, but he couldn't validate his anonymous sources, let alone get a statement from Rockstar. Journalism needs to have sources that can be fact checked otherwise it's the journalist's word we have to rely on, and history has proven that's not something we should do. Many have lied or stretched the truth to favor their agenda. I'm glad a spotlight was shone on this issue because perhaps in the future we can have credible sources brave enough to come forward.

@docterfantazmo

5 жыл бұрын

This is true, but in this case it's important to remember that it was the gaming industry that bred this need for anonymity, the accused are benefiting from the system. Validated sources are a standard we should strive for but unless the industry is willing to put it's best foot forward in it's own defense it doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore then the anonymous sources do.

Actual game journalism, what is this?

@nobodys_winds6580

5 жыл бұрын

this is jim f**king sterling, son

@theguywhowentthere3346

5 жыл бұрын

what the industry actually fears, ACTUAL fucking Journalism. Unless it's not praising their products to hell and high water, saying how great the industry is and how amazing it is to work for; the boyhood dream job, they don't wanna hear it or you... Wait, are we still talking video games or fucking Hollywood? Ehh, they're kinda the same these days.

@shirshanyaroy287

5 жыл бұрын

@@theguywhowentthere3346 Nah the vidyagaems industry is worse than Hollywood. Atleast in Hollywood people are calling out harassment, film houses are paying their taxes and reviewers are ripping apart bad games without fear of backlash.

@Jagdkartoffel

5 жыл бұрын

Wait.. youtube game journalism that isn't complaining about 'dem SJWs tryin' take our vidya games away? My mind is metaphorically melting.

@shirshanyaroy287

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jagdkartoffel welcome to Jim Sterling's channel

You've got me looking at game dev companies the same way I look at clothing manufacturers, and that is good.

@MoistDreams

5 жыл бұрын

You going to elaborate on this?

Sounds more like a mob than a game studio.

Thank God for the whistleblowers who found strength when there was little hope to have it. I hope it works out for them.

A lot of the time it seems like while the medium itself has grown up, the companies behind the games haven't. Thank God for Jim, and those like him.

This is a big story, Jim, and you definitely nailed it, great work man.

I’ve been replaying Dishonored recently, and Rockstar sounds eerily similar to the Rothwild Slaughterhouse in the DLC campaign “The Knife of Dunwall”. Abuse of the workforce, coercion, cliques, aggressively quashing any dissent in the ranks... I don’t find it hard to imagine the heads of Rockstar as the kind of men who would sit and sip whiskey as they enjoy the cries of pain from a whale as it is literally bled dry.

"Behaved more like fratboys than executives." Wait - you're telling me there is meant to be a difference in their behaviour? I thought being professional was a concept only familiar to the model executives.

@coolsenjoyer

5 жыл бұрын

No wonder most of their games have kinda fratboyish feel to them.

@listofromantics

5 жыл бұрын

Overindulged, sociopathic man-children is global corporate culture writ large (especially in banking and finance), and not unique to Rockstar or video game publishers.This is every major corporation everywhere.

Bloody Hell, what a nightmarish work environment. Wait nightmarish is the wrong word, because you wake up from nightmares.

@Astrothunder_

5 жыл бұрын

what a hilarious comment Special K!

@robadc

5 жыл бұрын

Considering how some people sleep in office. You wake up to the nightmare

@AppleshyJedi

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s more like sleep paralysis

@Blazehunter110

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, sorry to hear about your dog :(

@Blazehunter110

5 жыл бұрын

But instead of shadow people showing up it’s just guys in suits talking about horse testicles.

I've always dreamed of owning a game dev studio. At first, my response to all this was "I'm going to make it a point to encourage my empliyees to unionize." But a good friend gave me a different perspective: "Why not creature a work environment where you don't need unions?" Maybe I'll do both.

@poncho3326

5 жыл бұрын

For a small studio, creating a good work environment should probably as a patron, but that doesn't mean you cannot encourage your employees to participate in the larger unionisation projects and large strikes. I've seen unions, and they can be a pain in the ass. But they are necessary, because no matter how corrupt and counter-productive they can be, their absence gives way too much power to the employer, as the gaming industry shows us. To really create an healthy work environment, you need to have good people both among the executive and among the workforce and their representant (aka unions). But even then, it gets increasingly complicated the bigger the company. I am very enthousiastic about alternative structures, like workers-owned companies, but to my knowledge they haven't been around long enough to really know what does and doesn't work with this kind of company.

Everytime you say Housers I hear "Houses", and imagine some kind of underground masquerade thing

Twin Emperors upon their chitin thrones in Rck'Str: "Summon the lawyer-bats!" "Yes, brother... we must see to it the Sterling Shrimp is silenced."

@Bluecho4

5 жыл бұрын

"And steal his rainbow tie, too!"

From the bottom of my heart *THANK GOD FOR JIM STERLING*

Somehow, I wasn't surprised by this. I also thought their GTA games were about the mafia, not about their own corporation.

@StrazdasLT

5 жыл бұрын

they always said the games were satire. We just didnt knew it was satire of themselves.

@zelg.5551

5 жыл бұрын

@@StrazdasLT Satire? Looks like straight-faced documentary to me.

Welcome, my son Welcome to the machine What did you dream? It's alright, we told you what to dream.

@StrazdasLT

5 жыл бұрын

And the machine grows parasitic Who's gonna critisize the good critic

Some chubby British guy: "Here's an investigative report showcasing one of the biggest players of the industry's brutal treatment of game developers and their disgusting lack of ethics." A professional gaming news outlet: "wE nEEd cHilD GaMBlInG"

@Valomek

5 жыл бұрын

Look a parrot

@Tearakan

5 жыл бұрын

You mean outsourced PR instead of professional gaming news.

@KingOskar4

5 жыл бұрын

Overlive abusive work enviroment? More child gambling? We have all that and more in *game industry* oh sorry I meant *mobile game industry* Like REALLY?!

@theoriginalrandomman

5 жыл бұрын

is that real?

@SomeKindaSpy

5 жыл бұрын

@@theoriginalrandomman Oh yes.

Jim is the kind of person who can make anonimity trustworthy

@omganotherun

5 жыл бұрын

REAL Journalism. More likely to get it from randos on KZread like Jim than any "media" company.

@xboxgamer474246

5 жыл бұрын

@@omganotherun Calling Jim a "rando" when he cut his teeth in game's journalism for years feels like a disservice to Jim, but I get what you mean.

@omganotherun

5 жыл бұрын

@@xboxgamer474246 A fair note. I've been watching Jim since he ditched The Escapist largely because their "journalism" was trash. When I think "KZread Rando", it's more about being a very small, private operation. Dude + camera, maybe an editor/cameraman if they are prosperous. One who can do wierd sht like the pogs and cornflakes because they are self employed and have no master to please but themselves.

@tmp-3mtempest79

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed, and that's what someone in classical journalism* is supposed to do; they do their fact-checking and put their reputation on the line as a sort of 'social collateral' for the anonymous claims. In return, so long as they protect their source... said source tells them important things we need to hear about. Mr. Sterling gets things right more often than not, so as a viewer I'm willing to accept his reputation as the collateral backing the information he's relaying to us. *: Granted, he's not QUITE a traditional journalist since he mixes in opinion/commentary with the reporting. He's just very open about this, so viewers know what they're in for up front. He's still more 'proper journalist' than a lot of folks out there, even with that in the equation.

Thank God for Jim Sterling. Not just for the memes, but for the fact that he's made himself reputable and vocal enough of an individual that people are willing to brave their fear to share these terrible circumstances with him. And thank God for Jim Sterling for taking those accounts by these people and sharing them in the sunlight.

This shit is important, and perhaps should be higher on that trending list.

Well - that is me never buying a Rockstar product again. Simple as that. Thanks Jim - really important work man.

@seriousjokar6237

5 жыл бұрын

I mean, these are all "allegations". An opinion of a company changes depending on who you ask.

@butt317

5 жыл бұрын

@@seriousjokar6237 I mean official company reps have stated on-record that employees were working 100 hour weeks, like that was a good thing, so...

@BoredInNW6

5 жыл бұрын

Thing is, although Rockstar may be particularly bad, it's not like other studies are paragons of virtue (think of Gearbox, for example). Bad workplace culture seems to be endemic in the industry. I'm seriously wondering whether I should buy only indies in future.

@seriousjokar6237

5 жыл бұрын

@@butt317 Ever spoken to a Lawyer? Or a Doctor? Or a firefighter? or a nurse? This isn't exactly a new thing in the world. But that wasn't my point. My point was, it may be true or it may not be. What happened to innocent until proven guilty. I just dislike Mob mentality in general.

@TheRealColBosch

5 жыл бұрын

@@seriousjokar6237 Game development =/= law, medicine, or emergency rescue. Also, those are fields that are continually desperate for new people. They are overworked because so few people can do what they do. Disliking mob mentality does not mean making excuses for those who are truly in the wrong.

Lol. I thought all the dark lifestyle stuff in GTA was just satire for people who are actually this f' up. Turns out Rockstar executives are actually doing this for reals.

@sugarveins

5 жыл бұрын

that's also the sheer irony of it.

@chrisd.2048

5 жыл бұрын

And why the player protagonists are always sleazy, anti-hero dirtbags.

@DeathBringer769

5 жыл бұрын

I've sadly had a few ex-friends that made "dark jokes" that you thought were just jokes for years and then you eventually find out they really do fucked up shit behind closed doors... yea. Unfortunately there are some types out there like that, which ruins it for the people who are actually relatively decent/harmless but just have a darker sense of humor.

@Emanouche

5 жыл бұрын

Have any of you played Shakedown Hawaii? It's exaggerated, but seriously for every single scummy corporate thing the protagonist does in that game, there is a real life example. Haha, it's amazing.

@JaceCavacini

5 жыл бұрын

Classic projection. Freud sucked, but this behavior does seem pretty common.

Thank you for speaking up for victims of corporate greed and abuse. Cheers Jim!

No! Shrimp! We must rebuild him, we have the technology!

@alvatoredimarco

5 жыл бұрын

We can restitch him! Stronger, tighter, with more thread than he had before!

@kjj26k

5 жыл бұрын

*_The Six Million Dollar Shrimp_*

@hayk3000

4 жыл бұрын

You dare to suggest an improvement? *YOU'RE FIRED!!!*

Ah yes, my favorite anime. "Jim Continues exposing the corruption and and lack of morality in the triple AAAEYYYYY industry." We finally start the Rockstar arc! This story was wild in the manga.

@dscarmo

5 жыл бұрын

so we finished the activision-blizzard arc?

@fireaza

5 жыл бұрын

Someone on the internet pretending something that's clearly not an anime is an anime?! Oh shit! I've traveled back in time to 2012! I gotta warn everyone about the return of the Nazis!

@ugen1111

5 жыл бұрын

The Fallout 76 - Arc was spicy as hell tho.

@KingOskar4

5 жыл бұрын

@@fireaza Oh I am sooo gonna toy with you! Be warned, time traveler, the Otakus *WILL RISE AGAIN* 😝

@haha-on5fd

5 жыл бұрын

featuring less clangs!

Of all the workplace abuse stories you've covered thus far, this one may be the most alarming. This isn't just a soulless company with soulless policies anymore. It's gotten personal for those involved. And I'm willing to bet R* isn't the only company like this. Sadly, I don't think anything will change unless something unspeakable happens.

Gamers: Boycott Company A for being SJW! Jim Sterling: Rockstar is exploiting their employees. Gamers:

@StrazdasLT

5 жыл бұрын

Why not both? I stopped buying Blizzard games because if the bullshit they pulled by banning people for looking at someone wrong during tournament. I also stopped buying Bethesda and Rockstar games for the shit they pulled. You dont have to get woke to avoid shit companies like rockstar.

I'm Atheist. Can I thank Jim instead? Thank Jim for all these people who continue to fight for fairness and equality in the workplace!

@arlom5132

5 жыл бұрын

Rather, thank those people for Jim 😉

@wayfaringstranger5957

5 жыл бұрын

【Vocaloid English】 If you tipped that fedora any harder you’d be a bloody weapon. Sort yourself

@ootdega

5 жыл бұрын

Do you have a moment to talk about Holo the Wise Wolf, Goddess of the Harvest? What about Akatosh, the Dragon God of Time? Oh, I know. How bout QP, Sweet Guardian of the six Sweet Gods? Seriously, lighten up. Sincerly, an atheist.

@StrazdasLT

5 жыл бұрын

Jim is proof god exists.

and suddenly I‘m happy that I haven‘t given Rockstar a dime for a good ten years

@eduardodiaz9942

5 жыл бұрын

Last game from them I got was GTA 4

@haolihfaioefh

5 жыл бұрын

I just bought RDR2 and now I feel like shit because of it..... Fucking hell.

@ytnukesme1600

5 жыл бұрын

never gave this shit company a cent.

@devilkinggaming1603

5 жыл бұрын

You are missing out bro,dont hate the games,the games are fucking awesome its just these execs who fuck things up for everybody.

@SovietReunionYT

5 жыл бұрын

Devilking Gaming, you don't have to hate the games, you simply have to not pay for them.

Thanks for exposing this nasty rot, Jim. And thank you to those sources for coming forward with their experiences.

@AegixDrakan

5 жыл бұрын

@Snowy Poker Beg pardon? I don't get what you're saying, aside from the fact it's kinda threatening?

@Astrothunder_

5 жыл бұрын

@@AegixDrakan A warning from one of the execs at Rockstar! LOL

The problem is Capitalism and this kind of thing happens everywhere, not just the gaming industry. Some of the best things you can do here is encourage game developers to form unions and co-ops. Pirate the shit of out these games too, most profits go to shareholders, executives and stock buybacks not workers. We need to stop the "supporting the dev" culture when it comes to AAA games, all you're doing is allowing these practices to continue.

@b-roaskie7233

4 жыл бұрын

I know this is a late reply, but I think it's a little disingenuous to imply that pirating would help these developers. It's true that game devs don't actually see higher paychecks when they make successful games, but they do get fired if they make unsuccessful ones; and while pirating is not as bad for the industry as many execs would have you believe, it does negatively impact sales. Personally, I'd avoid pirating new AAA games unless I know they're successful. Fuck capitalism tho

Great video Jim. Thanks for this video. This happens in all industries unfortunately.

@JadenHybrid

5 жыл бұрын

@Comrade LukeTake this however you want Rockstar's games are embedded in pop culture, but there games also reflect sometimes there position in life when Hot Coffee and penis don't seem to bother them or there lawyers. Not surprised this is coming out among other devs.

My takeaway from this is that Rockstar aren't actually being satirical when they make GTA, they're really just describing their own lives.

@noahbossier1131

4 жыл бұрын

Hated gta. Now i see that it is clearly their sick mentality. the game treats women like sex toys well sexual harrasment is rampant at rockstar, brawls well that happens at rockstar. GTA is sick as in uncomfortable

Video games about crime families, violence and corruption done by an actual violent and morally corrupt crime family. I'm genuinely shocked by this resemblance.

@anothergerloffs9319

5 жыл бұрын

People got called loony conservative or soccer moms when they said it back in the early 2000s. They are now proven correct

@razvandavid1510

5 жыл бұрын

@Zonkamatic I know, right? I thought they were clever about it and mocked practices that they had no intention of reproducing. How wrong of me to believe that.

@josh-oo

5 жыл бұрын

@Zonkamatic Well, to be fair, most victims of satire often fail to notice they're being made fun of. They see satire and think it's a glowing endorsement of their beliefs and/or behavior. Doesn't mean it isn't satire.

@mellochello921

5 жыл бұрын

@@josh-oo that's the beauty and irony of satire.

@josh-oo

5 жыл бұрын

@@mellochello921 That's one part of it.

Last rockstar game I bought was LA Noire. Looks like it's gonna stay that way.

@SquidgyPixel

5 жыл бұрын

Yet Rockstar only published it, they didn't make it.

@taekinuru2

5 жыл бұрын

John Delanie If you’re going to get their modern games (say to check out what’s current in the industry), get a used copy if you can. No profit for them then. Screw em.

Best Jimquisition EVER. Thank God for real journalism.

@ilikecookies230

5 жыл бұрын

It’s not ‘game journalism’ it’s ‘garm journalism’

Jeronimo & pitchford should make a tag team called the creeps

@KingOskar4

5 жыл бұрын

And their tag power could be named "Abuse the max out of employees"

_Preach it, Jim. Preach it with every ounce of your magnificent, whale-like body. _*_thank God for Jim, and Ye shall be saved!_*

@superthorc6894

5 жыл бұрын

✊

@glumbortango7182

5 жыл бұрын

@@superthorc6894 ✋

@unlikelysalmon786

5 жыл бұрын

@@glumbortango7182 ✌

@boterham7144

5 жыл бұрын

Superthor c 🤚 i win!

@rasengdori13

5 жыл бұрын

This is a cult.

I really hope this video gets more traction following recent events. Thank god for Jim, he was right when he got ignored at the time.

@itcouldbelupus2842

2 жыл бұрын

They were, and still are.

Well, I guess I won't be buying the next Rockstar game out of principle.

@eurocrusader1724

5 жыл бұрын

To the torrentmobile? 😋

@StrazdasLT

5 жыл бұрын

so they will assume RDR2 wont sell on PC, will thinkng this is because of piracy and then will decide to go console centric again util they realize theres actually no money in that.

@thekunninglinguist2397

5 жыл бұрын

Deep discount on EBay so Rockstar does not get any money

@PatkaBoy831

5 жыл бұрын

Lmfao what a fuckin' bitch.

i really hope unionization comes to the game industry soon

@XSniper74184

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, as many issues as unions cause I will always be for them simply on the grounds that we're worse off without them.

@thatdudeoverthere2188

5 жыл бұрын

Can't trust power to manage itself.

@antman1672

5 жыл бұрын

Unionization only works in industries where workers are relatively rare. With the combination of everyone and thier mother going to school for game design, and mass immigration / worker visas being given out like candy, employees have no bargaining power. You could fire a 100 man team and have new workers the next day.

@thatdudeoverthere2188

5 жыл бұрын

@@antman1672 I dunno about that. Even if that's true tho, they're still the only means of leveraging for better worker rights.

@randomcallum

5 жыл бұрын

Ant Man not if you want top tier skill and experience which rockstar do ...

Rockstar employees whenever the company announces a new project: *Ah shit, here we go again*

Having gone through a similar working environment, I really feel a connection with these Devs. It's so hard to speak up!

@mellochello921

5 жыл бұрын

It is bro because you need the money for your Bill's and family but you also have your self respect/ dignity you have intact

@thewgarman

5 жыл бұрын

@@mellochello921 True, I ended up leaving. It's hard taking a leap into the unknown, but I feel better for it! :)

Unions will be super effective if more people knew how shitty working for these developers was and wouldn't be lining up in droves to work for them. Also. Happy pride month Jim, you beautiful specimen.

Rockstar's games always perpetuated this alpha male nonense that I've always found alienating, but I was always like 'well, it's all in good fun; it's not like grown-up men would actually take this seriously.' Boy was I wrong.

@miguelpereira9859

5 жыл бұрын

Actually that is one of the reasons I like their games, oddly enough I find actual masculine men harder to find in today's media than "strong female leads". But yes, taking that attitude too seriously IRL is fucking stupid.

You know he's serious about it when he doesn't end it on "thank god for me".

Fitting that the executives at Rockstar act like rockstars. Really crummy trashy rockstars, but nonetheless.

Happy Pride Month, Jim! I know it's not the main focus of this vid but just wanted to mention how much I appreciate your unique brand of unabashed, sometimes bizarre, but sincere when it counts LGBT+ rep. Also for taking revenue from Pride merch and doing some actual good with it. Very refreshing.

It goes to show Jim’s true credibility in this industry that people who are being abused and mistreated go to him before any other game pundit to get the information out there.

@crimsondynamo615

5 жыл бұрын

Sora383 because a lot game “journalists” like IGN and the lot are paid off by the triple a gaming industry, if they publish a piece that makes them look bad, they lose the money, and unfortunately love of money is more prevalent than love of people in this industry

@Sora383

5 жыл бұрын

Crimson Dynamo the thing I find most sad is that if a “normal” news reporter gets caught being paid off they get destroyed. But for video game journalism it can happen with no real consequences besides public shaming.

The video game industry continues to make my skin crawl.

@DrSleazoid

5 жыл бұрын

It´s as bad or worse in other industries. People need to finally grow a pair and rise up against their opressors.

@thelegendaryklobb2879

5 жыл бұрын

*AAA game industry

@AlphaladZXA

5 жыл бұрын

Shouldnt it be it makes your fur crawl, yknow since your a bear smokeweed

@Ellthom

5 жыл бұрын

@@AlphaladZXA noted :)

Thank you for continuing to cover important issues like this. And that you to all those people who spoke out. Good luck to y'all, hopefully you can turn things around, or find a better place to work.

So the higher-ups at Rockstar got into hissy fits whenever someone tried to suggest certain improvements for their major titles? I guess that explains plenty of the unrewarding and/or obnoxious elements that an otherwise great game like GTAV had going for itself ...Seriously, could the game be anymore stingy with cash rewards outside of 3 of the 5 heists during the story missions? Oh and how about the fact that pimping out vehicles that aren't the story-related vehicles aren't worth it because the single player mode lacks the convenient insurance system that Online has going for itself so you'll most likely lose that vehicle and never get it back? Oh yeah, and let's not forget about how the "best" way to make plenty of cash is by investing in the game's stock market which is such a frustratingly boring waste of time! ... Yeah, I've been sitting on that rant for a while now. Sue me.

@NFSBeast2365

5 жыл бұрын

wow! You know exactly what i also pointed out!

Fantastic Journalistic work Jim. This needs to be brought to light. No company is above scrutiny, no matter how polished their games.

@planexshifter

5 жыл бұрын

POLISHED? LOL-

I was really looking forward to this. Glad it's up.

@aidenmcgeehan428

5 жыл бұрын

Sucks that this kinda thing needs to exist tho. It isn't hard to be a good person.

@guerillagrueplays6301

5 жыл бұрын

@@aidenmcgeehan428 No . . . but it does take more effort and empathy than being an absolute bastard does, which is the issue. Everybody's lazy in one way or another, just more people get criticized for being physically so than emotionally.

Thank you for your work Jim, You are one of the best in the industry.

You really are one of the only genuine game journalists out there. I can't even imagine what type of information would have never made it to the public consumers if not for your research and presentation-especially on youtube. Just because they make video games, doesn't mean they get a pass when it comes to company standards. A business is a business, and workers rights are workers rights. Keep bringing us the so-called "dirt"-the public deserves to know how the companies we're supporting with our money treats their workers and handles their profits. Keep it up, my dude!

It's news like this that fuels the fire within me that makes me want to create my own game company. I want to show these companies how to treat it's employees and customers right. I want my company to be a safe haven where those who have been burned by the game industry can run off to. I want my company to be an example and inspiration to others. Hopefully one day I can achieve that. It'd be a dream come true to have a successful game company with a happy staff and satisfied costumers.

@TheAxeLord47911

5 жыл бұрын

You and me both, man.

Well now I know why the PVP gunplay in these games is shit: they fired the guy who tried to improve it. Thanks for the work Jim. Keep it up!

@anothergerloffs9319

5 жыл бұрын

They literally fire Western developers who try to make interesting and mechanically complex games, this is why we are getting this shitsy movie games. I remember back when it was Japan that had the oppressive game studios.

The picture from Anscestral of the Trail books was amazing. Still have all my books from that series