Fate Lore - The Tale of Karna

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  • @agravain9006
    @agravain90066 жыл бұрын

    You know you're a nice guy when the father of your enemy feels bad for screwing you over and gives you his greatest weapon.

  • @indrason6974

    @indrason6974

    6 жыл бұрын

    Armorwing01 well not his greatest but certainly one of his strongest

  • @venomheart5281

    @venomheart5281

    6 жыл бұрын

    panda in a bambo What is his greatest weapon?

  • @indrason6974

    @indrason6974

    6 жыл бұрын

    Venom Heart vajra in the blast but Vasavi Shakti has an advantage as that it will kill anyone no matter what

  • @venomheart5281

    @venomheart5281

    6 жыл бұрын

    panda in a bambo Then isn't Vasavi Shakti greater?

  • @indrason6974

    @indrason6974

    6 жыл бұрын

    Venom Heart vajra would destroy a dimension and nobody

  • @carlosbraga7206
    @carlosbraga72066 жыл бұрын

    Aaahhh....the husbando-class servant

  • @personagrand5674
    @personagrand56746 жыл бұрын

    The Hero of Charity, Karna Also known as the Nicest Badass Who Ever Lived

  • @SakuraiHikari15

    @SakuraiHikari15

    6 жыл бұрын

    Persona Grand His interlude story is awesome.

  • @snekeatereaterofsnek5585

    @snekeatereaterofsnek5585

    6 жыл бұрын

    a walking nuke

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    No one is more worthy of the Tittle Hero of Charity than Karna is. 😊

  • @projektgeronimo2696

    @projektgeronimo2696

    4 жыл бұрын

    So he's a Goodass? 🤔 😂

  • @SiegfriedFafnirsbane

    @SiegfriedFafnirsbane

    2 жыл бұрын

    IN actual Mahabharat lore He wasn't so nice.Actually his real life lore ver. Is more relatable since he also had faults.Nasuverse ver. Is like a white knight but real mythological karna was actually spiteful and for good reasons.The guy got dealt the worst hand in life. But both were hero s of generosity.

  • @rjnaman
    @rjnaman6 жыл бұрын

    People ask "why is karna not brown", well you can't exactly get tanned if you are the SUN.

  • @arrrun88

    @arrrun88

    6 жыл бұрын

    According to lore,both Karna and Arjuna were fair.They were born to royalty in North West India so this is true

  • @tacticalnuke0029

    @tacticalnuke0029

    6 жыл бұрын

    According to lore, Karna was radiant as the rising sun. Hence why he isn't brown.

  • @themightydenja24

    @themightydenja24

    5 жыл бұрын

    I just thought he was an albino

  • @NOU-iw3gb

    @NOU-iw3gb

    5 жыл бұрын

    Both karna and arjuna were fair.

  • @voivodadracula1936

    @voivodadracula1936

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, Archer Heracles looks red, so i guess some demigods get some of that technicolor people treatment

  • @cakeman4527
    @cakeman45274 жыл бұрын

    Karna is literally the most unlucky person in Indian mythology

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe, but not in the Nasuverse.

  • @cakeman4527

    @cakeman4527

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@soralight_x he has D rank luck

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cakeman4527 That's not so bad & merely just part of his Stats as a Servant. Karna's one of the luckiest & blessed characters in the series in my opinion. He loves Granting & Fulfilling the Wishes of others & is very proud of it. At the end of Apocrypha he was truly satisfied he accomplished his Promised to Siegfried & was able to help Sieg as well. Also in LB4 he gets an Extraordinary PowerUp he Truly Deserves. I am currently working on a Video Project that defines what an Amazing Character "The Hero of Charity" is.

  • @bijoychandraroy

    @bijoychandraroy

    3 жыл бұрын

    true 😿

  • @vushasenakingofallzasshus6089

    @vushasenakingofallzasshus6089

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@soralight_x I think he is "unlucky" because he is naturally Fated to get bad shit on his future no matter the "era" he is in,you can be considered unlucky If Many bad things happen to you,even If you still manage to live "satisfied" whit it.

  • @justanunluckyirishmaninabl5178
    @justanunluckyirishmaninabl51786 жыл бұрын

    One of the few servants that can have equal footing against Gilgamesh, and he's the nicest guy ever.

  • @Tetsulot

    @Tetsulot

    6 жыл бұрын

    one of, yes. But few? Nah

  • @Courier-gq6ym

    @Courier-gq6ym

    6 жыл бұрын

    Phan Minh Khôi are you implying theres no one else who could beat him or there's a lot more heroic spirits who could take him?

  • @basilofgoodwishes4138

    @basilofgoodwishes4138

    6 жыл бұрын

    Courier 9712 Mwindo could beat him as well as the OG Gilgamesh.

  • @Courier-gq6ym

    @Courier-gq6ym

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Rising Theurge .....i was talking about gilgamesh.

  • @johnpatrick7221

    @johnpatrick7221

    6 жыл бұрын

    i don't think karna can defeat gilgamesh ,mainly because of enkidu ,it will restrain servants with divinity trait in which gil can unleash his enuma elish at point blank range just like how he did to iskandar

  • @brazguard3akabg357
    @brazguard3akabg3576 жыл бұрын

    Karna's curse sounds like how we forget what we have studied for an important test.

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    6 жыл бұрын

    MiddleGround akaBG3 Ooh that'd be frustrating.

  • @itzabhinav2220

    @itzabhinav2220

    4 жыл бұрын

    Brazguard3 akaBG3 A dude called Parushurama gave it to him.

  • @whichhatte-persomi

    @whichhatte-persomi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine a Fate/ slice of life highschool drama. Where one of the running gags is, Karna forgetting the answers on his midterm test.

  • @colleennewholy9026

    @colleennewholy9026

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@whichhatte-persomi Arjuna would have yet another reason to try and kill him at this point XD

  • @caliveil1627

    @caliveil1627

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damn that teacher

  • @mrkarandagr8
    @mrkarandagr85 жыл бұрын

    When Indra comes asking for Karna's armour, Karna gives it knowingly because he can never deny anyones request. Secondly Karna misses shooting a poisonous snake who wants to kill Arjuna as an arrow once due to a manoeuvre pulled by krishna who is riding arjuna's chariot. The snake begs karna to take the shot again but because Karna is an honourable warrior he refuses to use the arrow second time even if it means that, that was the only sure shot way to kill arjuna. Thirdly when Karna's chariot gets stuck in mud, he gets down to remove the chariot. In that era in the Hindu Mythology getting down from the chariot meant a temporary ceasefire from the war and nobody should attack them (similar to how pilots shall not be attacked if they make it to the ground). Thus Arjuna is reluctant to kill Karna while he isn't in the battle but Krishna convinces him that if he doesn't kill Karna here, they may never actually win the war. And all of this after Karna has given the divine armour. Imagine the outcome of this battle had he not be so honourable in nature and held on to that armour. P.S. My father is a big follower of Karna and named me after him.

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome. Now I'll admit I don't think Fate's version of his lore is quite the same as the myths and legends.

  • @mrkarandagr8

    @mrkarandagr8

    5 жыл бұрын

    OtakuDaiKun I agree with you but still I think they've done a commendable job with the bandwidth they had.

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    5 жыл бұрын

    Karan Bhagavath I mean it's just a matter of what things they wanted to keep, and what to change as a piece of historical fiction. For instance, Fate often ignores the heroes' children. Their kids play a larger role in Karna and Arjuna's rivalry.

  • @omkarshirgaonkar6156

    @omkarshirgaonkar6156

    3 жыл бұрын

    May Surya bless Your Father

  • @Neelinmact

    @Neelinmact

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its tragic how his guru Parasurama found out that karna was not a Brahmin ,,, Although he never knew his true heritage ,, his disguise was thrown off because of his unparalleled devotion towards his teacher ,, once his teacher was sleeping with his head on karna’s legs ,, suddenly one scorpion started biting his legs but karna refused to bulge even slightly so that his teacher is not disturbed while sleeping,, he kept on enduring ,, blood kept on oozing but he did not bulged ,, suddenly parshuram woke up from his sleep and saw karna ‘s blood ,, he quickly threw that scorpion of karna’s legs ,, parshuram was known to be a very angry man but an knowledgeable and astute teacher ,, he figured out that it was impossible for a brahmin to endure such pain and he figured out that karna was lying about his heritage ,, he cursed karna that at the most crucial moment he would forget all his teachings and his chariot would be sucked up by earth ,, Parshuram was summoned by lord shiva for his angry reaction and he regretted as to what he did to one of his best and devoted students but it was fated to happen since karna chose wrong side to align with

  • @noheartx9992
    @noheartx99926 жыл бұрын

    Karna, the bishonen to good for this world.

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wise words my friend. 👍

  • @garett2813
    @garett28136 жыл бұрын

    He came to my Chaldea on my last ticket after I lost all my SQ trying to summon Mordred. Truly the Hero of Charity!

  • @AbhijayPaul

    @AbhijayPaul

    6 жыл бұрын

    Garett Holy Shit I swear the EXACT same thing happened to me. I had just used the 30 saint quartz I saved up to summon Arjuna and then about a week later they released Card packs for Karna. Since I didn't have any enough saint quartz to do a 10x summon I used my remaining 5 summon tickets to summon him. I was beginning to lose hope when I reached my last summon card but lo and behold I got him on my very last one.

  • @Vince-A-N-O

    @Vince-A-N-O

    6 жыл бұрын

    Man you guys are either lucky or Karna said "I feel bad now, I should let myself get summoned" and low and behold he did

  • @esdeathtatsumi7961

    @esdeathtatsumi7961

    6 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @colleennewholy9026

    @colleennewholy9026

    5 жыл бұрын

    I got Karna with my very first summoning ticket XD

  • @GnosisZX

    @GnosisZX

    5 жыл бұрын

    Karna was my first level 5

  • @deadmanlyndon
    @deadmanlyndon6 жыл бұрын

    The gods had to nerf karna in order to win lol. Just think how bad ass he must have been.

  • @indrason6974

    @indrason6974

    6 жыл бұрын

    Deadmanlyndon I think arjuna could have won even if they let karna keep his armour but it would have destroyed the universe

  • @banny8552

    @banny8552

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah Karna might have his armor but Arjun also had the Bow of indra. That shit is pretty OP. Even krishna himself said that A full on fight between Arjun and Karna can destroy the universe.

  • @Ananta9817

    @Ananta9817

    6 жыл бұрын

    Firo Prochainezo Karna had the bow of Indra, which was used by Parshuram to eradicate all the warriors on earth 21 consecutive times. Arjuna had Gandiva given to him by either Varuna or Agni. I believe the other person is talking about Arjun's pasupathastra. Though Karna also had pasupatha himself, we just don't know know if it was the same as Arjuna or another variant of its kind. Sanjaya said the Kaurav maharathis had many destructive weapons they didn't use in the war, just like Arjuna.

  • @ankurshrivastava4303

    @ankurshrivastava4303

    5 жыл бұрын

    rkb xyz your right

  • @animeshbiswal8121

    @animeshbiswal8121

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@banny8552 lol if u think arjuna gandiva is op then u have no idea what karna's vijaya is

  • @marnetteryes2613
    @marnetteryes26136 жыл бұрын

    Between this guy and Cu Chulainn I think the lancer class is becoming my favourite

  • @jasonwu1847

    @jasonwu1847

    6 жыл бұрын

    Both Sun Demi-Gods too. I like Orpheus as well so I guess Sun Divinties tend to have a bittersweet ending

  • @MomijiHVods

    @MomijiHVods

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wait till ya see Brynhildr

  • @ilyasbasuki3207

    @ilyasbasuki3207

    6 жыл бұрын

    The FGO game seems determined to make me like Lancers by giving me golden Lancers on every 10-rolls. It's working.

  • @parth7442

    @parth7442

    6 жыл бұрын

    Actually karna can be summon as archer,rider and lancer .but in fate apocrypha karna summon as lancer beacuse his master is weak . So only a powerful mages l ike shirou kotominie can summon karna . Beacuse karna heroic spirit takes a huge mana. So if karna sunmoned as archer or rider then it would be much more powerful

  • @holyordersol2668

    @holyordersol2668

    6 жыл бұрын

    Parth Source? Links? I have not read this anywhere.

  • @holyforce000
    @holyforce0006 жыл бұрын

    Love Karna; truly a noble hero too good for this cruel world.

  • @MrGksarathy

    @MrGksarathy

    6 жыл бұрын

    He wasn't COMPLETELY blameless. Because of his feelings of friendship for Duryodhana, he was complicit in a lot of the latter's misdeeds and shenanigans, standing aside when Draupadhi was about to be raped by Dushasana, for example.

  • @AtarashiNOhi

    @AtarashiNOhi

    5 жыл бұрын

    Duryodhana was a greedy power-hungry prick, but he was the only one who treated Karna like an equal, so it's understandable that he would turn a blind eye to things that Duryodhana did. Not the best thing to do but hey, what do you when you're bitter towards everybody looking down on you because you're the son of a charioteer?

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Karna is among the Kindest characters in the entire series, along with Shirou, Astolfo & Lord Inshun.

  • @iamvrs2349

    @iamvrs2349

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AtarashiNOhi PEOPLE READ THE OG SOURCE MATERIAL , THE MAHABHARATA. U will realise it much well why the story goes the way it does, and the only reason stories of karna exist so well to this day because arjuna was the one who after the war built a temple in his name and spread his stories as this noble warrior . Those weren't any small things that he ignored, and that's what the lesson is in his life. The og mahabharat is too long to read but it's really fun if u are into that sort of thing.

  • @Animemaidsama1
    @Animemaidsama16 жыл бұрын

    The most gruesome thing about him losing his armor is that he cut it all off himself. My boy suffered so much :(((

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yaranaika Sounds like the Fate version is a bit more tame.

  • @Ananta9817

    @Ananta9817

    6 жыл бұрын

    OtakuDaiKun It is. The way it is described is rather graphic in the Mahabharata.

  • @Fanimati0n

    @Fanimati0n

    4 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the people who write Fate seek out tragic figures to be lancers because being a Lancer means suffering.

  • @winter2025

    @winter2025

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Fanimati0n ya

  • @praveenloganathan7495

    @praveenloganathan7495

    3 жыл бұрын

    He literally cut his own ears and flayed his upper body with the exception of his arms. and when they refused to come out, he literally ripped them out.

  • @KaerJordan13
    @KaerJordan136 жыл бұрын

    Karna is best boy and probably the nicest badass I’ve seen

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    No argument there. We need more character like him, Astolfo, Shirou Emiya & Lord Inshun.

  • @cake6851
    @cake68516 жыл бұрын

    Gotta admit, its amazing he never once felt resentment against anyone. That's wholesome.

  • @basilofgoodwishes4138

    @basilofgoodwishes4138

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cake# He is that pure.

  • @cake6851

    @cake6851

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Rising Theurge Truly. Innocent ones like him must be protected.

  • @basilofgoodwishes4138

    @basilofgoodwishes4138

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cake# at all cost.

  • @nervmeister

    @nervmeister

    6 жыл бұрын

    That could mean that the Grail mud would fail to corrupt him.

  • @cake6851

    @cake6851

    6 жыл бұрын

    quipper Yeah tbh it seems like karna is just incorruptable morally and mentally.

  • @aminebachir3394
    @aminebachir33946 жыл бұрын

    Karna got defeated by plot armor , and it makes me angry but nothing I can do because the story of Apocrypha needed to advance :P

  • @theguyinthecorner605

    @theguyinthecorner605

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dude, his whole LIFE was him getting beaten by plot armor. It's his thing.

  • @rotciv557

    @rotciv557

    6 жыл бұрын

    Being Lancer is suffering, remember? It should have been expected...

  • @Vince-A-N-O

    @Vince-A-N-O

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well probably

  • @esdeathtatsumi7961

    @esdeathtatsumi7961

    6 жыл бұрын

    man , i think the author was thinking how he can make him die since he has a great destructive power , unfortunately the author failed with his way of making Karna dies , author's idea is too weak

  • @aminebachir3394

    @aminebachir3394

    6 жыл бұрын

    lol, the author had to pull a deus ex-machina aka the plot, like Astolfo has the power to borrow noble phantasms and Achilles was known for giving his weapons in life, so its convenient a little toooo convenient

  • @MamiK00
    @MamiK006 жыл бұрын

    He's really, REALLY pretty though

  • @CarlottaStudios

    @CarlottaStudios

    6 жыл бұрын

    Titilayo Aderemi-Williams Tell me about it!!!

  • @strikerron2252

    @strikerron2252

    6 жыл бұрын

    He is no where close to being blonde

  • @sayandeepkar7839

    @sayandeepkar7839

    6 жыл бұрын

    in mahabharata when he walked through the streets of anga(his kingdom) returning from his daily routine of sun worship and bathing in river ganga women of every age flocked the windows and corners of the street to just have a look at him and he was the spitting image of his father surya hell even more beautiful than him as surya is the most beautiful among the hindu gods.

  • @MamiK00

    @MamiK00

    6 жыл бұрын

    sayandeep kar those women are relatable then.

  • @sayandeepkar6623

    @sayandeepkar6623

    6 жыл бұрын

    Titilayo Aderemi-Williams But what is the use of such beauty if your life is full of misfortune, insult and betrayal.

  • @xivaro1
    @xivaro16 жыл бұрын

    Karna, the son of the Sun. Everyone praise the Sun. If Solaire from Dark Souls was a master, his devotion to the Sun could very likely act as a catalyst in itself to summon Karna.

  • @voivodadracula1936

    @voivodadracula1936

    5 жыл бұрын

    This needs to be a fanfic

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@voivodadracula1936 I have a fanfic video of MHX if you're interested.

  • @voivodadracula1936

    @voivodadracula1936

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@soralight_x i get it, making your videos known to people is hard and even outside of your control but doing this just bad for your image, self promotion on someone else's channel is sad

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@voivodadracula1936 I'm sorry you feel that way my friend. However if that's how you feel then there's not much I can do for you.

  • @voivodadracula1936

    @voivodadracula1936

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@soralight_x also you deleted your response to my first reply to you, was it too passive agressive for you? You count: 5

  • @genobeamandflash92
    @genobeamandflash926 жыл бұрын

    Where is my Karna Lily. We need little hero Karna

  • @theflyingace611

    @theflyingace611

    6 жыл бұрын

    genobeamandflash92 I NEED THAT IN MY LIFE!!!

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    How would Kid Karna look like? Similar to Nobu?

  • @yami7509

    @yami7509

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@soralight_x isn't smol karna in video pretty much good estimate there

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yami7509 You're right. My comment question was posted a long time after the Video was so I had forgotten that Young Karna appeared in it. 😅

  • @AgnimitraSutradhar
    @AgnimitraSutradhar6 жыл бұрын

    His noble Phantasm was anti-army & anti-divinity one but the fact that it could destroy Akhilleus Cosmos whose sole weakness is Anti-world NPs says something about the strength & capabilities of Vasavi Shakti

  • @jacopoarmini7889
    @jacopoarmini78895 жыл бұрын

    Karna is one of my favourite heroes from mithology, as he follows his dreams despite the strict societal rules that bind him. I also like that he lacks the chestplate, as he was stripped of his body armor.

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Y. Ahriman I'm working on a Video project dedicated to Karna. Would you like to see it when it's ready?

  • @jacopoarmini7889

    @jacopoarmini7889

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@soralight_x why not, seems interesting!

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jacopoarmini7889 It's ready. 👍

  • @jacopoarmini7889

    @jacopoarmini7889

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@soralight_x I'll check it out!

  • @AlterAce
    @AlterAce6 жыл бұрын

    my sun......er son.

  • @SolarDragon007
    @SolarDragon0076 жыл бұрын

    Karna was primarily known as an incredible Archer in the Mahabharata. He was also a more flawed character than depicted in Fate but still sympathetic.

  • @basilofgoodwishes4138

    @basilofgoodwishes4138

    6 жыл бұрын

    SolarDragon007 Better than Fate's Gilgamesh by far at the least. They got his story and character wrong.

  • @SolarDragon007

    @SolarDragon007

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yuwan I feel like Stay Night and Zero portray Gilgamesh mainly based on how he was characterized in the early days of his rule.

  • @basilofgoodwishes4138

    @basilofgoodwishes4138

    6 жыл бұрын

    SolarDragon007 Yes that's true, but he only became a hero after he stopped being an ass. The golden archer looks more like an evil avatar of the Original Gilgamesh.

  • @SolarDragon007

    @SolarDragon007

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yuwan True. Nasu and Urobuchi seemed more interested in the villainous aspects to his character. I also find it weird that that Gilgamesh had already met Enkidu apparently and was still the way he was considering that Enkidu was meant to reign in Gilgamesh's sadism/make him a more compassionate king.

  • @rhadamanthys649

    @rhadamanthys649

    6 жыл бұрын

    Did you try Fate/Extra CCC or Fate/Grand Order? These Fate show a nicer aspect of Gilgamesh, especially Extra CCC, you should check it out because it's the best Gilgamesh imo.

  • @noahweathers4408
    @noahweathers44082 жыл бұрын

    Karna’s life feels like an endless string of bad luck. I can’t feel anything but contempt for the many arrogant nobles, priests and gods who looked down on him, even though his place was only so low because his own mother abandoned him. The fact that he became such a splendid warrior and kind-hearted individual despite this is wonderful. He is absolutely a wonderful ally.

  • @ShubhamKumar-wf5ig

    @ShubhamKumar-wf5ig

    Жыл бұрын

    all the young generation died in the war. the kingdom was split into 2 and 1 was given to Arjun's grandson and the other to Karna's 2nd son. Hope you feel better now.

  • @fatelover9007
    @fatelover90075 жыл бұрын

    Karna is possibly one of the nicest servant in Apocrypha

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ku'Thajajuan Dortch Yes, he & Astolfo that is. They're among the nicest Servants in the entire Fate Franchise. In Fact, if it wasn't for them Sieg would not had even made it past the Prologue of Apocrypha.

  • @lincolnbeckett8791
    @lincolnbeckett87916 жыл бұрын

    Is it me, but are all the heroic spirits that end up being Lancer's have shit luck both in their Holy Grail Wars and their legends.

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lincoln Beckett-Scott Certainly many of them have awful luck.

  • @AmanRishitwenty15

    @AmanRishitwenty15

    6 жыл бұрын

    Idk but karna's luck in real life should been -F

  • @nervmeister

    @nervmeister

    6 жыл бұрын

    Romulus: B Nezha: A Hector: B Enkidu: whatever he wants it to be Ereshkigal: B Parvati: B So the class isn't entirely poison.

  • @thesentinel4257
    @thesentinel42572 жыл бұрын

    You know that in the original epic from which Karna comes, he was at a war with Arujna's side (The Pandavas) As the war started the general of both sides shot an arrow to each others chariot, Arjuna shot the first arrow and Karna's Chariot moved a few meters karna tried next but his arrow only moved Arjuna's Chariot was pushed only a few feet away, every one laughed and ridiculed Karna and Arjuna was laughing but later Krishna (The incarnation of one of the 3 primordial god Vishnu himself) who was the charioteer of Arjuna was applauding Karna. Arjuna asked - O lord why are you praising him even though I'm the greatest archer here, Karna lost to. to this Krishna replied - Do not be delusional Arjuna, Karna was able to move this chariot on which I'm sitting, I Krishna the one who carries the weight of all universe with him. not even the gods could have been able to move this chariot. Arjuna - But aren't I the greatest Warrior? this Krishna replied bluntly - do not be fooled arjun, Karna can kill you eyes closed, you are no match for him, He can kill Indra himself (Indra is God of thunder and Arjuna's father) if your father hadn't taken his Armor from him, he could even defeat me in a battle. It took 4 curses/mishaps to kill Karna in the war 1- He was cursed that on most important time in his life the earth would betray him, and in the war his chariot wheel got stuck in the ground. 2 - He was cursed that when needed the most he will forget the knowledge to use Brhamastra, and he wasn't able to use it in the war. 3- He gave his mother a promise to not kill rest of her sons except arjuna 4- Indra took his kavacha and Kundala (Armor) from him Despite all this Arjuna was only able to kill Karna when he was out of his Chariot and was trying to take out the wheel of his chariot completely defenseless.

  • @jamaldavis831
    @jamaldavis8316 жыл бұрын

    Karna is anime moses but on fire.

  • @SakuraiHikari15

    @SakuraiHikari15

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jamal Davis Now I'm just picturing Moses getting confused and jumping into the Burning Bush.

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Karna is a True Phoenix! 🔥

  • @jasohu8078
    @jasohu80786 жыл бұрын

    When your favorite youtuber talks about your favorite servant Yessssssss!!

  • @nightshrine4257
    @nightshrine42576 жыл бұрын

    Lancer Ga Shinda. With Honor

  • @oshogupta1
    @oshogupta16 жыл бұрын

    By far your lore was the most accurate and trust me i am a hindu i grew up listening to these lore

  • @liteyagami2007

    @liteyagami2007

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi, there are some in inaccuracies.

  • @liteyagami2007

    @liteyagami2007

    6 жыл бұрын

    Also i am glad that Fate has not released Bhishma. Because he would be too op

  • @Drago03789

    @Drago03789

    6 жыл бұрын

    I know, but like with any old story, there are many variations and some parts may have been changed, when they were put to paper.

  • @SolarDragon007

    @SolarDragon007

    6 жыл бұрын

    Drago03789 That's true, but certain key points like Karna helping to kill Arjuna's son were left out.

  • @liteyagami2007

    @liteyagami2007

    6 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Thing is if you look a very narrow aspect of the story it can be misleading to draw conclusions. Karna is awesome but Arjun was not a bad guy either

  • @bussing666
    @bussing6666 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for you to cover Arjuna

  • @harukozgoalz3566

    @harukozgoalz3566

    4 жыл бұрын

    1 year later.... still waiting....

  • @harukozgoalz3566

    @harukozgoalz3566

    4 жыл бұрын

    2 years later... I think I'm dead now...

  • @amiteshpothuri5111

    @amiteshpothuri5111

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣

  • @ethanwebster3764

    @ethanwebster3764

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@harukozgoalz3566 It’s here

  • @HammerOChariot2020
    @HammerOChariot20206 жыл бұрын

    Karna sounds like an interesting person to talk to.

  • @OCeanVidStuff
    @OCeanVidStuff5 жыл бұрын

    Funny enough that Karna himself tells that Edison looks like Duryodhana in term of personality

  • @Vince-A-N-O
    @Vince-A-N-O6 жыл бұрын

    Wow Arjuna and Karna may be Arch-enemies but he respects him and gave him a temple

  • @SakuraiHikari15

    @SakuraiHikari15

    6 жыл бұрын

    EmeraldV Karna is too nice to really hate anyone (in FGO Karna is happy to fight alongside Arjuna if you have both of them, where as Arjuna says he will work with Karna but can't promise he won't try to kill Karna next time).

  • @banny8552

    @banny8552

    6 жыл бұрын

    well they were brothers

  • @banny8552

    @banny8552

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't know About FGO but in the original "MAHAVARATA" story Arjun was kinder than karna. He didn't even want to enter the war because he didn't want to kill anyone.

  • @SolarDragon007

    @SolarDragon007

    6 жыл бұрын

    Firo Prochainezo Neither did Karna when he found out that the Pandavas were his brothers. Both of them did fight though because they felt it was their duty. Also it's the "Mahabharata".

  • @uselesshero.official

    @uselesshero.official

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SolarDragon007 I know it's two years too late but Karna couldn't promise Kunti that he wouldn't kill Arjuna which means he still had grudges over Arjuna.

  • @dr.arcane
    @dr.arcane4 жыл бұрын

    "Vijaya" was the original bow given to Karna by parashurama as he recognised karna to be his equal. Vijaya literally means "victory" and was used by the god of destruction "Lord Shiva". And parashuram once stalemated shiva in battle and gave shiva a scar on his forehead.And this dude recognised Karna his equal.... talk about overpowered along with an armour which blocks everything

  • @abhinavnambiar4720

    @abhinavnambiar4720

    3 жыл бұрын

    Parashurama is also an immortal and avatar of Lord Vishnu.

  • @kuldeeprana1908

    @kuldeeprana1908

    3 жыл бұрын

    are u idiot or what? the fight u are talking about is fight between parshurama and bishma ..and shiva never fought parsuma

  • @rolls6573
    @rolls65736 жыл бұрын

    So was he cursed to look like an emo for all eternity?

  • @jibanlatasarungbam8816
    @jibanlatasarungbam88165 жыл бұрын

    In the actual Mahabharata epic, Indra didn't steal Karna' armour and earrings, Karana donated them to Indra thinking of Indra as a Brahmin. That's how charitable karna was and in return Indra was so surprised at Karna's charity that Indra gave Karna a arrow that can kill anyone, be it God or demon. Karna decided to use that arrow on Arjun but the god Krishna knew of this and instead made Karna use this arrow on Bheem's sun Gatotkacha.

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jibanlata Sarungbam Sadly a lot of this doesn't have an official Type Moon narrative so differences are to be expected.

  • @jibanlatasarungbam8816

    @jibanlatasarungbam8816

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@otakudaikun thanks for the reply, actually an Indian so was only pointing out interesting facts my man. You know in the epic, it is said that Karana's armour can deflect any arrow or attack and the earing are used as reflectors from the Sun's ray, rendering Karna's opponents blind

  • @theflyingace611
    @theflyingace6116 жыл бұрын

    My personal favorite Servant. Thank you so much for doing him justice! Though personally his story in Extra CCC might've been a better video, but his story in Apocrypha is really good too.

  • @immortalemperorwithanepicb3322
    @immortalemperorwithanepicb33226 жыл бұрын

    Ah Karna, A true hero that kills with his eye.

  • @cake6851

    @cake6851

    6 жыл бұрын

    Immortal Emperor with an Epic Beard Except when he's an archer where brahmastra is an arrow

  • @bobbyadityaekapratama7743

    @bobbyadityaekapratama7743

    6 жыл бұрын

    him and medusa lancer

  • @Ananta9817

    @Ananta9817

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cake# Nah, it's a bow.

  • @animeshbiswal8121

    @animeshbiswal8121

    5 жыл бұрын

    Edmond Dantes its a arrow not bow

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Except he hardly ever kills.

  • @jameshadden1798
    @jameshadden17986 жыл бұрын

    Ah, Karna. My Favourite Lancer and one of the best Servants around. I’ve been waiting for this ever since you first started these Lore videos. Great job.

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    My Top Favorite Lancers. 💖 Karna(Bro) Lord Inshun(Uncle) Romus(Papa)

  • @sammydray5919
    @sammydray59195 жыл бұрын

    I forgot how assholish the Gods like Krishna and Indra were as well as the royalty pricks like Arjuna. However Karna's friend Duryodhan was one of the biggest assholes to ever exist and did not deserve someone like Karna lol.

  • @hu879h8
    @hu879h86 жыл бұрын

    Your missing few detail of how Karna gave he's armor away but it is still a great job.

  • @LadyIgiko
    @LadyIgiko6 жыл бұрын

    This is brilliant. Thank you for making these videos. ❤️

  • @samuelrodriguez9801
    @samuelrodriguez98015 жыл бұрын

    Shirou Kotomine apparently had to restrain himself from lying in front of Karna, because of Discernment of The Poor.

  • @karnatheheroofcharity8183
    @karnatheheroofcharity81836 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video I have been waiting for this lore since forever

  • @masterofpuppets4771
    @masterofpuppets47714 жыл бұрын

    Finally got my boy this morning! He was always my second favorite servant just after Gil.Funny enough their personalities couldn't be more differentxD Though I admire my kind Gil.I simply would never be able to be that good of person as Karna is.Being so Humble,Honourable and Fair.Truly the nicest guy that you can strive to be yet will never be able to become.He is one of only few exceptions in my list of favorites which mostly consists of narcissistic ,cruel and selfish yet awesome bastards:)

  • @MaverickX578
    @MaverickX5786 жыл бұрын

    Funk in awesome lore man, I’ve been waiting for this.

  • @souvikkundu25140017
    @souvikkundu251400176 жыл бұрын

    waiting for this for a LONG TIME, THANKS

  • @Astroprogs
    @Astroprogs6 жыл бұрын

    Awww, no CCC Karna? Great job as always, though.

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    6 жыл бұрын

    Astroprogs You can blame Aksys for not localizing it.

  • @Astroprogs

    @Astroprogs

    6 жыл бұрын

    OtakuDaiKun Yeeaah, it still hurts.

  • @110000116699

    @110000116699

    6 жыл бұрын

    OtakuDaiKun I need ccc so much

  • @AtelierGod

    @AtelierGod

    6 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you should hire a translator group to translate CCC.

  • @goldgarchomp4592

    @goldgarchomp4592

    6 жыл бұрын

    But CCC Karna is way better than apocrypha's version of him huh..... Oh well😒

  • @MomijiHVods
    @MomijiHVods6 жыл бұрын

    Shame no mention of his CCC days. THIS IS WHY WE NEED A FATE/EXTRA CCC SWITCH PORT

  • @ph3rtehHDawg
    @ph3rtehHDawg4 жыл бұрын

    He's such a nice guy, he treasures and cares for even the Masters who don't know how to utilize his full potential. HEYO-CHAL-DELUXE!

  • @emred4653
    @emred46535 жыл бұрын

    Dang now Im even more happy for getting him so I had the chance to learn his legend

  • @Freedom001
    @Freedom0014 жыл бұрын

    Truely your voice and its acting is such a huge draw to your channel Dia. Thank you

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    4 жыл бұрын

    I literally get both praise and scorn for my delivery on a daily basis. I appreciate the support^^

  • @thespikeheadboy3164
    @thespikeheadboy31646 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video OtakuDaiKun and Karna truly is the Hero of Charity

  • @yaboigamerdouji7573
    @yaboigamerdouji75732 жыл бұрын

    Karna legit gets screwed over multiple times due to petty people.

  • @omega4667
    @omega46676 жыл бұрын

    My boy is finally here

  • @vedanthote242
    @vedanthote24210 ай бұрын

    His story is far more than this He has 1.bhramastra, 2.bhramsira-astra, 3. bhramdhand-astra (1 is capable to destroy city like nuclear weapons, 2is capable of destroy the earth and 3rd is capable of destroy the universe), Vashnav Astra ( the weapons who can destroy any thing which is aim wether it is human, earth or universe,, and the only thing to nullify it is to surrender before the weapons) nagpash( blinding weapon) nagaastra( he used in Mahabharata to Arjun but lord Krishna save him it is a weapon which kill enemy in one bow) kiranastra( which make another sun) and many more His strength was written in Mahabharata which is equal to move a universe ( during battle with Arjun { Arjuna chariot have lord Krishna and Hanuman in his flag that means entire universe weight is on his raath(chariot) and karna push his chariot 5 steps back every attack that means his strength is equal to entire universe) , He has Vijaya Bow which grant him victories in every war and no one can win when he has his bow in his arm His armor not only protect him but it also absorb impact like a black hole He is the greatest Donner of all time , he Donate his armor, even during his last breath one saint ask him gold so he take a stone and break his golden tooth and give to saint, He is very loyal a true definition of friendship even he died for his friend

  • @arianejane2620
    @arianejane26206 жыл бұрын

    Karna knows what was needed to happen. He said it in one of the episodes that he was just looking forward to a good fight with the Lancer of Black. He was even more concerned of it than protecting Shirou (like he needed it) or the Hanging Garden. He died satisfied tho. At least he smiled. Also he has the discernment of the poor meaning he knows if someone has good or bad intentions. He knows that Sieg needs to go to Ruler to stop Shirou from getting to the grail.

  • @damienstorm7263
    @damienstorm72633 жыл бұрын

    You know a funny thing none of the pandavas were actually pandu's son so they have no right to the throne

  • @jamaldavis831
    @jamaldavis8316 жыл бұрын

    Being a Lancer truly is suffering.

  • @spirz4557

    @spirz4557

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not this Lancer.

  • @arjunsingh8219

    @arjunsingh8219

    5 жыл бұрын

    If it makes you feel better then his dominant class IS archer. He was majorly nerfed in Apocrypha xD

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't say that. Karna was truly Happy & at peace at the End of Apocrypha.

  • @theothersideofthestory7691
    @theothersideofthestory76916 жыл бұрын

    Karna is the greatest because in the series they made him a lancer while originally he was a archer who literally conquered the three realem for his friend and not to mention he had weapons and arrows that can literally destroy the universe itself compare him in his archer mode, gil and his noble fantasim are like small ants trying to climb a mountain

  • @soralight_x

    @soralight_x

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad his Animation Update was released early on NA.

  • @samrazcoxsbazar2177

    @samrazcoxsbazar2177

    3 жыл бұрын

    Karna is strong but I think Gil can give Karna a good fight

  • @thegooddoctor413
    @thegooddoctor4136 жыл бұрын

    out of all the Apocrypha servants Karna is my favorite as he is a man of honor and forgiveness. a role model of sorts

  • @denieerham5873
    @denieerham58733 жыл бұрын

    if this guy were real and live in this age he's gonna get scammed alot and still forgive the scammer.

  • @barrydalton4743
    @barrydalton47434 жыл бұрын

    Karna is one of my favorite characters in the whole Nasuverse and the fact that he is my first 5 Star Servant in the game pleases me. I can't wait for Lostbelt 4 where he can shine even brighter.

  • @benng4059
    @benng40596 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @nekosuki2691
    @nekosuki26912 жыл бұрын

    Good video!!

  • @Garmagic2yFhenrakh9
    @Garmagic2yFhenrakh95 жыл бұрын

    Can you do the Tale of Rama? I just learned about this character and I love his backstory and motivations! Truly, if I were to become a Master, I would summon him.

  • @pablo9234

    @pablo9234

    5 жыл бұрын

    rama is surprisingly great. FGO really made me like him a lot. Sita in lostbelt 4 please

  • @indrason6974

    @indrason6974

    5 жыл бұрын

    Garmagic2yFhenrakh9 would have been better if he gets to be an adult archer

  • @danieleron4971
    @danieleron49715 жыл бұрын

    it seem's like the less greed one have in their heart in the fate series, the more suffering they will find

  • @peterk.m58
    @peterk.m585 жыл бұрын

    If Gilgamesh is mankind's oldest hero, then surely Karna is mankind's oldest 'tragic' hero. P.s. Do one on Okita Souji!

  • @venomheart5281
    @venomheart52816 жыл бұрын

    What about Brahmastra Raksha? Those huge multiple spears he summons that create a nuclear explosion? Anyway it's a great video. Makes me appreciate more the fact I single rolled him!

  • @SiegfriedFafnirsbane

    @SiegfriedFafnirsbane

    2 жыл бұрын

    Isn't that just his Manaburst

  • @amarnathg2998

    @amarnathg2998

    10 ай бұрын

    Near heard of that one .

  • @wbiddy4301
    @wbiddy43015 жыл бұрын

    Lancer and Rider are normally the most interesting classes but Lancer have sad endings

  • @rickbhattacharya2334
    @rickbhattacharya23345 жыл бұрын

    Untill you linked the fate story every information given is accurate. We always listen to them in our childhood, feels good to see Western people to read Indian purans . Nice research bro

  • @ninjammer726
    @ninjammer7266 жыл бұрын

    yes awesome

  • @amarnathg2998
    @amarnathg299810 ай бұрын

    Karna's bow which he received from parashuram was Vijaya which literally means victory the wielder of this bow always be victorious in any battle . Bhargava Astra is an arrow ( personal divine Astra of parashuram) this particular arrow can't be blocked or countered by any means .

  • @PeacefulAmphibian
    @PeacefulAmphibian3 жыл бұрын

    I watched this anime a few years ago and I still wonder why he isnt an archer

  • @spirz4557
    @spirz45576 жыл бұрын

    The only Lancer who died in an honourable way, gentlemen !

  • @kagegenius
    @kagegenius6 жыл бұрын

    I'm Indian and no offense dude but your pronunciation is hilarious.

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    6 жыл бұрын

    Arrush Hegde I have a fellow Indian friend who said most of these names in a recording for me to mimic. I'm a bit sad that wasn't enough.

  • @kagegenius

    @kagegenius

    6 жыл бұрын

    OtakuDaiKun it's your effort that counts. You did a good job. No need to feel dejected.

  • @narenvasudev007

    @narenvasudev007

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm Indian as well and will agree the pronunciation was a bit weird but whatever...

  • @SolarDragon007

    @SolarDragon007

    6 жыл бұрын

    OtakuDaiKun Indian names can be hard to pronounce

  • @cecilphilip5026

    @cecilphilip5026

    6 жыл бұрын

    It was funny... can't lie there,but nice try!

  • @jcalcgaming
    @jcalcgaming3 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @nmv2327
    @nmv23274 жыл бұрын

    karna's teacher also give him a boon that he will be remembered as a glorious warrior but not as a greatest archer until the end of humanity. Till this day in India he was referred as great, generous warrior even though he fought on wrong side. and also he willingly gave his Armour to indra (king of gods). In all his life even when he become a king every one discriminated as lowborn until his death. His whole life is tragedy only moment he find solace is when duryodana (villein) recognized his talents and make him a king of anga (currently Bangladesh). He is tragic hero of Indian history.

  • @quantum7046
    @quantum70462 жыл бұрын

    I learnt of Karna looong before I knew the concept of a demigod, so it feels a bit weird to me that he is one, lol

  • @karanveermultani6594
    @karanveermultani65945 жыл бұрын

    I'm lucky enough to have an anime character named after me 😂

  • @AtelierGod
    @AtelierGod6 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for being late Dai. If you need help with Norse mythological heroes I am available to give you help.

  • @nervmeister

    @nervmeister

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thor as Rider just so I can see him and Quetzalcoatl duke it out on their respective mounts.

  • @voivodadracula1936
    @voivodadracula19365 жыл бұрын

    Best boi indeed

  • @nicholoylevy8725
    @nicholoylevy87254 жыл бұрын

    my favorite servant

  • @DONTTOUCHMEify
    @DONTTOUCHMEify6 жыл бұрын

    awesome video, i have a small question what's the name of the music used(at 11:24) been trying to find it for a long time. Thank you!

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    6 жыл бұрын

    exodia theforbiddenone All these tracks are from the 2006 FSN anime.

  • @shuturelisharri3691
    @shuturelisharri36914 жыл бұрын

    Karna is awesome af. Best husbando.

  • @comikachi
    @comikachi5 жыл бұрын

    Ya know that "he shoots his gun, he misses" meme from Game Grumps? Well that's Karna except it's "he tries, he's cursed again"

  • @rpendragon5365
    @rpendragon53656 жыл бұрын

    karna, bro you are the most unlucky dude ever. very interesting lore. I love saber and gilgamesh is next but karna you top 3 !!

  • @setsunatenma9467
    @setsunatenma94675 жыл бұрын

    Karna the best friend someone can have

  • @gundambassexe31
    @gundambassexe316 жыл бұрын

    Yay karna

  • @dytgyfgyffuh243
    @dytgyfgyffuh243 Жыл бұрын

    I love fate series the problem is it story is complex with it many timeliness and characters

  • @novachrono1341
    @novachrono13416 жыл бұрын

    Hope we can see a vlad one soon if you haven't done one already

  • @RothurThePaladin
    @RothurThePaladin6 жыл бұрын

    OHHHH SNAP KARNA HYPE!!!!

  • @aredjayc2858
    @aredjayc28585 жыл бұрын

    He always loses due to fighting the protagonist... such is the luck of a lancer

  • @PalleDoesStuff
    @PalleDoesStuff6 жыл бұрын

    OtakuDaiKun-Sama can you please please please make a FrankenStein lore video? just the clip from the last fate anime got me thinking of her so much :o pretty please if it would be posseble do it

  • @otakudaikun

    @otakudaikun

    6 жыл бұрын

    PalleDoesGaming Of course I'll cover her.

  • @bijoychandraroy
    @bijoychandraroy3 жыл бұрын

    karna is my favourite character in Mohabharat (an holy war which is made into an holy book which is equal to bible in a way 4 us hindus) jsyk im not that much religious so if i offend someone pls don't kill me this dude so op he got himself in an anime

  • @AbhijayPaul
    @AbhijayPaul6 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, but you did pronounce Kshatriya and Dronacharya and maybe a few more words wrong. It doesn't really matter since I enjoyed this video anyway ^_^

  • @ambervalkerie9134
    @ambervalkerie91346 жыл бұрын

    Too bad Karna had to be defeated by plot armour, not just in Fate Apocrypha but also in Fate Extra ccc

  • @cake6851

    @cake6851

    6 жыл бұрын

    Amber Valkerie In ccc its perfectly explained why he was defeated so easily

  • @rotciv557

    @rotciv557

    6 жыл бұрын

    Karna has ALWAYS been beaten by Plot Armor...even in his life.

  • @ambervalkerie9134

    @ambervalkerie9134

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking because he had to be stuck with a master who is so weak that he can't fight at full strength, had already gave away his armour to his master so said master can survive and return to earth. Normally a servant like caster, archer and saber wouldn't hold a candle against him. Gilgamesh yes but Gil knew he was soo weakened he didn't bother unleashing his noble phantasm.

  • @AmanRishitwenty15

    @AmanRishitwenty15

    6 жыл бұрын

    I read Mahabharata. He was defeated by help of total 3 curses and by mastermind behind the war. Then only Arjuna was able beat him. The curses were 1. The mother earth will not help him when in most need. His chariot got stuck in mud. 2.he will forget use of his brahmastra when in most need given by his teacher(sensei) parushurama. As parushurama only taught Brahmans and karna lied to parushurama that he is a Brahman. 3. He won't be aware when he will die. So one sage was copulating with his wife transformed as a deer and karna killed him thinking he was a deer then he cursed him he will be looking elsewhere when he will die. So in the battlefield karna's chariot got stuck in mud. The one who was to control horses ran away. He was pulling out chariot and Krishna (the ultimate god and mastermind) told Arjuna to attack him at that moment. Though karna was a legendary warrior and was hero of charity. But due to his extremely nice nature and shit life he succumbed to evilness when he joined Duryodhana( the antagonist of Mahabharata). If any more questions ask me free to answer.

  • @Ananta9817

    @Ananta9817

    6 жыл бұрын

    Justic He lost in Foxtail because Jinako was a shit master who didn't even step in the battlefield and Leo was an excellent one. The three main servants won with plot armor in CCC because his hologram spear is pretty much written to miss in the game. Can't have the protogonist's servant get killed by the midboss. All of them basically got one-shotted with Brahmastra in the first match. Gilgamesh winning the rematch was okay because while Karna was said to be holding back, Gil wasn't being serious in the first battle either.

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