Astrologers Adam Elenbaas and Chris Brennan discuss the relationship between fate and astrology, and how astrology can be used as a tool to study fate.
This episode was originally recorded as a Q&A for Adam's KZread channel, where we answered some questions that were sent in my his fans about fate, free-will, and ancient astrology.
During the course of the episode we talk about how ancient astrologers viewed fate, and used astrology as a tool for understanding and negotiating it.
Along the way we also touched on other topics such as karma and reincarnation, electional astrology and magic, and how to delineate a birth chart in a way that balances determinism and free-will.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:11 Diverse views of ancient astrologers
00:04:48 Were ancient astrologers fatalistic?
00:07:10 Definition of fate
00:10:35 Complete determinism
00:16:03 Partial determinism
00:19:08 Signs vs Causes
00:30:07 Resources about Jung on astrology
00:31:28 Is fate the same as karma?
00:43:24 Was astrology a religion?
00:49:08 Did ancient astrologers believe your chart was a set of instructions?
01:02:16 Was astrological magic used by all astrologers?
01:10:30 Electional astrology and magic
01:12:44 Limitations of predictive astrology
01:18:20 What successful astrology looks like
01:22:36 Why ancient texts sound fatalistic
01:28:45 Modern astrology's view of charts as a set of potentials
01:37:42 How to deliver a delineation
01:38:45 Why fate is a good thing
01:44:36 Concluding remarks
01:47:04 Patrons and sponsors