FASTEST WAY TO SAND PRIMER FOR SHOW CAR FINISH
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Today we're going to spray guide coat over the primer and show how to sand it off using an electric 6" D/A with 220 grit. We will demonstrate and go over the products to use and the grits of sandpaper that will give you a finish that is ready to paint 🔥 www.hiltzautoco.com
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Been in the industry of restorations for almost 40 years now. Good technique. Everyone does it a little bit different, but the basic principles are the same. Stay blessed, God willing sir.
Now this guy. This guy right here. Is the man i want to be taught by. No mask, for a quick show sanding...im sure he wears one when it gets foggy in there. No messing about. Time saving. Best finish. No BS. Ridiculous metaphors. Random shouting. He's an absolute legend! The guy who taught me how to plaster was very similar. Never forgot the man. Owe him everything.
I find it hilarious that some guy on his couch is questioning how you do what you do...I have bean painting cars for 20 years now. When I watch you I see a guy who knows exactly what he is doing love your work brotha keep hammering!!!!
Jolene does a fantastic job filming. She knows when to get in close which makes it easier to understand what's being discussed.
I understand what you mean about the different grit paper being a wood floor sander. You can over sand and not even be cutting the wood. Very informative guys. Watched the whole build
I see some people saying no but all car truck you done be out this world giving all tricks up for free thanks for video on here love channel
It's a pleasure watching you work my friend, you're a true artist and have produced some beautiful machines.
Love watching your videos. I'm getting ready to do my own body work for the first time and you make me feel comfortable that I won't completely mess this up.
I am getting to this stage on some old rusty Vw double cabs. I see your sanding logic. Will give it a try.. Thanks for your time.
Wow. I painted my first car and went through all the sanding steps and spent a loooong time. Wish I had seen this video before as I would’ve loved to save some time and work.
Chad you have the right attitude working on the Jag. I think so many over thing and never get anything done on their projects, I'm one of them..
Got it.... Guide coat shows the imperfections and allows you to smooth better.... Dude you are awesome!!!
It's always great going back in time to see the stages of the build.
Sure wish I would of had someone like you to show me when I was in my twenties . It would have saved me a lot of money and time . Your a great teacher and someone for young people to look up to.
@bumperjack64
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I could have built a lot more cars. Eye opening and motivating.
I will admit , your videos is most educational. You don’t do short cuts. Very great job
I am a fan of Bad Chad. I have watch all his episodes and can't wait till the next one comes out. His imagination has created some of the coolest cars I have ever seen. This video is very educational for those who are getting into bodywork. Thanks Bad Chad!
@richardhall5699
2 жыл бұрын
36 years doing body and paint . You may be faster than me skipping your sanding a fine step . But my job will look better 20 years down the road. I've always finished in 180 primed then sand 320. My scratches will never come through yours will.
We love you, Chad. So please, put a mask on ! I've done that for years and just looking at you doing that, dust is coming out my computer screen. Jolene wants two things : a marvelous car AND a marvelous Chad. Both of them. And for a long time.
@NZMOPAR
3 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to be a dickhead here but do you think he can talk with a mask on and video it and have you understand what he is saying . I am sure he uses one when not trying to talk to people on a video . I have a KZread channel to and I have tryed it it doesn't work
@kevinshelton2788
2 жыл бұрын
If I had it to do again I would use a mask...save your lungs
@i8ntnuts
Ай бұрын
Well, I think she’s still working on it. Time goes by fast
Great Lesson and Advice. Love The Progress on A Brilliant Project👍👍👍
Thanks for the video. You are awesome taking time to show your technique for fastest way to do body work. I am starting to restore my 1948 chevy five window pickup again. My dad and me built it together when I was in High School in 1995. I did it the harder way fine sanded with 220 and 320 before primer. I'm going to do it your way this time, save a lot of time and work.
You show me a lot i love your honesty and work ty for all the time you use to show us how to doit
Great job so far. What a beautiful car you're building !
When I got my Gamora it was a parts car and everyone said it was going to be a money pit and was junk. I followed you and used G2 and my $375 Urechem kit driveway paint turned out great. Thank you!
Everything Chad says makes so much sense. Very good teacher and explainer
RETIRED NOW, BUT HAVE BEEN USEING 80 GRIT MYSELF AND GREAT RESULTS , GREAT WORK AND IDEAS , THANKS
Hey Chad and Jolene......Big fan Seattle! Saw the repeat on Discover Channel of the Pinto build. I watched when it first aired and watched both episodes again!! Great stuff....
I like learning new ways to do something.Chad makes it all look simple.Jolene is always in the right place so we can see.
Thanks for explaining the relationship between primer, filler and choice of sandpaper in a way that is easy to immediately understand ! I have done some body work on my projects and realize I always have done it wrong. Polishing instead of straightening and getting those waves you mentioned. Thanks Chad !
it is a pleasure watching and listing to you
Great thinking Chad good old fashioned Canadian engineering! Thanks for the sanding lesson
Great to see that somebody else uses a 6" da and a 8" da for body work and blocking primer. I even use my 6"da to initially block my clearcoat.
fantastic video as always
Another great video. Thanks for sharing
I love your show and how your mind works when creating something unusual. Nice that joline is by your side. Keep doing it.
Shops that I have worked at required me to finish the filler with 120-150g before the primer. So I would simply guide coat the filler and DA it till the guide coat is all gone. Painters couldn't believe how straight my bodywork was after finishing with a DA. You are absolutely correct about blocking filler w 150-220g. Paper clogs and won't sand evenly.
i've done this for many years and loved this work.... totally agree about 40-80 grid is able to make it straight, but i allways go with sanding blocks instead of a DA sander if it really has to be straight.... the big advantage of this car is that it had no flat surfaces maybe the doorpanel, but that's the only panel that is really flat, a curved surfase is very forgiving for minor imperfections priming after 80 grid works really well especially when you give it a good cure.. nice job
Another awesome video 👍👍
High build primer is a god send when you're deadline becomes reality.. I love my Flexi sander for curvy surfaces
That is a work of art .
Very interesting didn’t understand glide coat but I do now I’ll try that next time thanks so much
Smart idea on the sanding. I'm going to try that Feather Fill.
thanks for the vid chad..very good and educational
I remember back in the day when all it was lead and lacquer primer and lacquer glaze . I will say now the materials are like working with cement to clay like in the old days and their are a lot of different types of materials that if you don’t know what the uses or apply it at the right stage can be a disaster in the overall system and longevity of the restoration
Fussy pedantic perfectionist grand master of body work , bloody enjoyed every minute.
Great work man..many patients..
Thanks Chad and Jolene! Cheers 🍻
I'm glad they asked, I learn more with a little antagonism, My Dad was a Marine. lol Good stuff Bad Chad.
Great explanation on the 40 80 paper grip man!!!! I have a 1971 VW Bus that I will subscribe and follow your advise once I start my Peral two tone paint job soon... Cheers man Thanks for the awesome video and WOW that car looks amazing I cannot wait to see the finish product...Cheers man stay safe...
Bad chad, Thank you for your channel and showing folks what really goes into a restoration. When people haven’t done this they have no clue.
Primer filler amen, was waiting for this episode and for you to school the naysayers, in 1977 we were using primer filler to go over filler in the UK body shop I worked in and it saved the day every time. They got better over the years obs but so pleased to see this episode :)
@atkpirate7831
2 жыл бұрын
We still use polyester primer on show cars. These techniques he is using are why he works for himself. Any shop would laugh at him.
Looking Bloody Good Chad...Good on you mate!!!
Very nice work!!!👍👍👍
I'm looking forward to the end result.🥰❤
I'm a body tech watch your show love your work bro and you are old school and it works don't change my man
I always love listening to you Chad! Thank you for everything! Like always Jolene, great video!
Really like he's talking as he doing the work explaining what he is doing and where mistakes can and will happen I am doing a 1958 chevy fleet side long bed hope full to get it done this summer its my first build complet tear down
Thanks Chad for showing this you sure are right
I did a truck 14 years ago same way as him. Wet sand polish finish looked perfect. Once it got out in the sun a year or so the scratches started appearing think from different materials shrinking at different rates.
Congratulations on the 60k Chad & Jolene! Another great episode!
Now you can start block sanding by hand, D A only good on flat surface!
@jq8792
2 жыл бұрын
I use to say that until seeing Chad’s results. It’s as good as anyone does using flex blocks by hand.
@ricardohz5148
2 жыл бұрын
I think is good with single stage
We called it over spraying not guide coatings. But we were a small hot rod shop. Sure miss it. Keep up the good work cant wait to see that beautiful thing done the right way and looks like your doing it. Much love from one car guy to another. Or one car brother to another. And i only knew how to use a DA not a block. Just what i was taught with. Just have to be careful to not let your fingers get hit by that weight on it lol only takes a few times of losing your finger nail to learn lol
When that primer shrinks you’ll see those 80 grit scratches. I did auto body for 15 years. I been out of it for about 10 years. I used urethane primers that weren’t supposed to shrink but they did. No short cuts. I always sanded to 150-180 before priming
@wyatt7747
3 жыл бұрын
polyester primer
@jamescon55
3 жыл бұрын
That's WHY you let it SIT and "gas out" 😏 unless "in and out/collision work". Then yeah, 150/180 is a near must before ANY kinda primer. But yeah, IT IS RESTORATION....USE 120/150/180 ta BLOCK YOUR 1ST (or 2nd stage) of PRIMER 💪. Heck, I did MOST my BLACK 55 CHEVY show car with 40 grit and urethane primer 1st stage 😏...BUT? I let that sh.t SIT......"SIT" 😎
@NZMOPAR
3 жыл бұрын
its still in primer now so i think it will fine now it done shrinking
@tonyadamo2642
3 жыл бұрын
the older type primer will shrink but that poly and catalyst k2 shit don't shrink for decades
@L8nitedave
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, another old schooler here. Clean in up with 180, get your 80 grits and pinholes there.Feather fill can fill little waves too. Never go past 180 after polyester which includes filler and glaze. First cut the feather fill with 180 and guide coat again if you step down, Wet it again with 2k every time you cut through. Keep going like that without cheating out any low spots and you'll have a straight car when it goes in the booth.
I learned more on this one video than years of watching and wasting time on sanding blocking and painting! Thank you sir! You are a gentleman and a true craftsman!
Great Video! Thank you
Chad I really appreciate the way you break down the steps and the reason why you do it how you do it. Also love your creative mind. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
I agree the method is fast, and what you say about course paper is what cuts strait. But I'd go to from 80 to 120 before primer. Just to make sure sand 80 grit sand scratches dont shrink back over time. Love the content Chad great work.
@ellohyou1859
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed..
@davidroberts283
3 жыл бұрын
agreed. 40 & 80 can, & do shrink, & it shows later after the sun hits it. Shrinkage demons.
@jamescon55
3 жыл бұрын
YES sir, guys on the shrinkage stuff... THAT'S WHY it's SOOO IMPORTANT that you LET THE SH.T SIT....😏 (Give it time to GAS OUT ect.) But YES! IF you don't have AT LEAST A WEEK to let sit? 120 grit IS a GREAT step before high build anyways. 👍 And...? IF you DON'T have at LEAST a week or so to let the panel sit before blocking? Then they SHOULDN'T BE DOING "Auto Body RESTORATION" ANYWAYS! 😒 ALL that "hurry up crap" is just NUTHIN but "Laugh/Smile NOW but Cry LATER"......😎
@aamantium1
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamescon55 that G2 feather fill is virtually liquid glaze. Like, you said, give it time to cure and all is fine. I only use it on the gnarliest of bodies, but I use it relatively often.
@jamescon55
3 жыл бұрын
@@aamantium1 Evercoat "polyester primers" has stepped up their line of products in the last decade for sure. I still prefer the Evercoat Super Build 4-1 polyester line vs. ANY that "Featherfill" line. It's waaay more user friendly and you can mix-up small amounts for spot priming and waaay longer pot life time for actual SPRAYING.
Big help!!! Than you!
Chingon maestro mucha esperiencia👍
Would be intresting to see that car few months after its been painted. I have been bodyman/painter for 22 years and seen many cars when people used wrong grit. I agree with Chad that 80 grit will make is straight, but ALWAYS take finer grit 220-240 or 320 BEFORE put primer on. None of excisting primer products on market will work to cover 80 or even 120 grit....It will look great first few days or weeks but it will shrink and show that eventually.
@ironblockrecords1220
2 жыл бұрын
Not if heat treated.. you will see any prob before hand and he will obvioisly fix it.. I do get what your saying but look at the customs he has done already....pretty sure he would of corrected that at this point....but like Chad says always...it might not be the way you like it but it's how he likes it... that's why you do it your way and let him do his
@ironblockrecords1220
2 жыл бұрын
Also these are custom builds not factory perfected...there a lil more loved due to work...if your right hey ...I'll give ya that ..just saying he knows by now what to do an what not I'm sure...hes got super clean builds for most anyone in this labe of fab work..not just body paint garage
@ME-zp9co
Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if you spelled interesting proper
@jockejohansson5957
Жыл бұрын
@@ME-zp9co yeah sorry if my very disturbing misspelling destroyed your day. get a life dude
@ME-zp9co
Жыл бұрын
@@jockejohansson5957 yeah you don't even know me and you ruined my life with your spelling error get with the program man
Really enjoy Brad. Cheers. Mike in Oz
Awesome PEPSI tool bin !
Whenever I see Chad, I feel inspired.
Love the electric DA Chad! I use the same, for the same reasons you do. I like Makita though. Keep up the great work!
@sll-tt6bj
2 жыл бұрын
What brand is that
Amazing! What a work of art! Pure genius!
Thanks for ur tips n tricks ! It takes alot of hours to build a car so every tips is like gold . thanks!
Chad you are preaching….. I am converted to your church. Great job!
Just watched this video , nice work mate , well informative , and is that a cattle dog 🐶, 🤘🤘
Interesting explanations
i like you talking about what your working on . Chad, you should be a body shop school teacher.
Chad, you are an artist. Congratulations and thank you for sharing your art and knowledge with us. Best regards and stay healthy.
Bro, I dig the part about tilting the sander. I have constant arguments with my guys. I believe in flat all the way to 1500 grit
You cool! A hello from germany!!!!
Been using feather fill since since 1975. When it hit the market they advertised it to go over 40 grit no problem. Went from bare bondo to paint with a team and best paint in 3 days using feather fill
@michaelbristol6467
3 жыл бұрын
1975 wow didn't know it was around that long. Good stuff ! 😉
@michaelbristol6467
3 жыл бұрын
I used to use the fill n sand lacquer. The polyester is way better.
good sound principles.
thanks for advice great job gonna pull out electric DA
Gr8 work.. 👌👍🏼
Philly Philly 🇺🇲in the HOUSE. #STAYSAFE
THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST AUTOMOTIVE KZread CHANNEL OUT THERE. CHAD, YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE GENIUS. JOLENE IS SO SMART TO BE DOCUMENTING YOUR LIFE AS YOU WILL BE KNOWN AS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME. I CAN'T THANK YOU BOTH ENOUGH FOR THE DAILY INSPIRATION. YOU GUYS ARE THE REAL DEAL.
as always...great
With a hearty Yee Haw & screeching Waa Hoo in her rusty crusty truck, with her faithful Indian companion CROWBAR at her side - The Lone Stranger rattles and rumbles in a cloud of flying debris across Nova Scotia to get in place for the Chad & Jolene daily shindig.
@christianmccollum1028
3 жыл бұрын
You're a nut. Lol
Love the detail, inculding specific materials. Your are a good teacher, and a good teamwork. I need to paint a car now !
I am kicking myself for going down to 240. Now I am fighting the waves. Thanks for show how simple and fast it can be.
@Paul_Tomlin
3 жыл бұрын
I use 80 on lightweight bog then 150 just to take the 80 scratches out then prime. 240 block primer and depending on the top coat da 400 2k 500 clear over base. Take your time on the 80 and just knock off the top with 150. If you know what I'm saying
@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
3 жыл бұрын
Then your waves were always there. 220 is just to remove scratches, that's all. It takes like an hour to run over the car after using 80 with 180 and then again with 220 because all your doing or supposed to be doing with 180 and 220 is removing scratches, that's it. If your fighting waves, you need to sand the car off, get the filler and the 40 grit back out because you weren't done with those yet.
You are teaching people too work smart not hard, Love the videos you guys make, I love the progress your making on the car, You both are artists, Thank you both for the fantastic videos 🙏🏻❤️
I have to admit the 40/80 prime technique is way faster. It makes perfect sense to me. I worked on my bug forever trying to straighten it out. I’d always end up sanding my primer all the way back off for the first coat but I’m just a novice diy guy. I’m horrible at trying to perfect filler before I prime. That primer is amazing how much it fills and doesn’t go through
you are right on
looking good
I fuckin love you channel and personality!
You are absolutely correct. If you call 2k primer company's they will tell you 2k primers can fill 80 grit scratches. 36, 80, prime 180, 400 paint.
I want one of those.
Love what you do Chad and Jolene this car is going to be beautiful because you’re doing it your way!!
Thanks Chad and Jolene I'm at guide coat stage with my beetle had the exact same argument about sanding grit with my painter ending up sanding to 400 alot of work will be spraying the car in a few weeks a few tips would come in handy 👍