I adore the combination of the 3 of you!It's delightful to see you sharing ideas and supporting each other. I think many of us became quite introspective during the pandemic. I found myself exploring my personal style as a way of giving myself something positive to focus on and it became a wonderful journey of self discovery. As I became more true to myself in my style I noticed an increased transparency and authenticity in other areas of my life where perhaps I had held back. Exploring our style and taking responsibility for what we wear is anything but frivolous. Keep up the great work!

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for joining us here! So glad you are enjoying the podcast!

The pleasure of in-store shopping died with my Mom, my shopping buddy, a year ago. I so miss shopping, then having lunch with her, among the many other things we did so happily together. Love you and miss you, Mom.❤

@flamingofan5411

7 ай бұрын

Awe! So sorry about your mom! I’m trying to really not shop/buy but I allow myself a shopping/lunch day each week with my mom. I just hold out buying the rest of the week and look for/purchase things I need when I’m with her. I know the shopping/lunch days are important to her as well.💕

@lisa-janeomalley7041

5 ай бұрын

same here but not before I racked up $8000 in credit card debt trying to bring her back and the feeling of spending the day with her. That was 12 years ago. I cannot stand shopping malls now

When I visit museums, I am always awe struck by the fact humans adorned themselves as long as we existed….since prehistoric primitive selves. We always seemed to decorate and adorn. That’s art. I think that is fundamentally human. So, I have no shame in having the need for adornment. I think what is necessary is to be balanced and mindful about it. I love that you are also mindful about caring for resources.

My overconsumption of fashion was directly driven by the very real material scarcity I experienced as a child, teenager and college student. I didn’t even have a single piece of outerwear, like a jacket or coat, comforts like slippers or a robe, or more than one pair of pants or shoes to choose from, nor even enough food to maintain a healthy weight. In those years, clothes were expensive, unlike today. Jackets started at about $35, about where they do today, but that was a lot then! Then, I was forced into early retirement because of an injury and spent another 20+ years in economic deprivation again. Only recently, at age 63, have I attained a level of comfortable economic security. But, if anything, my desire to buy has decreased; I actually have a wardrobe full of clothes and accessories that I love already. I used to use credit cards for buying wardrobe items that I couldn’t really afford, but not anymore. I’m not sure those 40 or so years of economic deprivation will ever leave me entirely though.

As a child I remember my father always being so well dressed. He put so much thought into the way he presented himself to the world. He was such a stylish man who was often complimented by strangers in the street. Unfortunately my Mum used to tease him saying how frivolous it all was and how shallow he must be. I have always had the same interest in style that my Dad had, but my mother’s reaction to it made me feel ashamed of it. Thanks to all your KZread channels and these amazing podcasts I can finally enjoy what I have always loved xxx

I like the podcast a lot - but it was amazing with the added video!!!! GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!🎉

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

YAY! Love to hear it!

@heatherframpton9693

2 ай бұрын

I agree. I especially enjoy the "Yea". ❤

Thank you for this reminder! I think as someone who embraces minimalism in many areas of my life I often get the message that fashion doesn’t matter or I should have a small wardrobe, but I love clothes! While somethings aren’t as important to me I can allow myself to enjoy fashion and getting dressed! 😊

The video component was sooo nice! Thank you for including this and for this awesome chat! ❤

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

So glad you like it! xx

I just love watching and listening to you all. I like how real, open and transparent you all are. You are all so relatable to me. I love it ❤😊

I recently found this channel. As a graduate from textile background and sportswear professional I always found this interesting.

Please upload the rest of episode even if it's just the audio😊

@Christinamychas

Жыл бұрын

Working on it!

Thanks for adding that different things empower different people. I've been an athlete most of my life, so having a good running/athletic shoe on makes me feel like I'm ready to face anything. What I wear to work each day definitely changes my attitude too.

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

Totally! Thanks for sharing! xx

I’ve been binging your podcast lately - I love each of your 3 channels and this podcast is so fun to hear the three of you together. That said, I’ve been confused how you have had ALL of these conversations with out saying the word “sexism” once - this conversation in particular is really about sexism - fashion is considered frivolous bc it is considered female - while neither is true (fashion is not frivolous and it is not female) it is the lack of value in female labor and female interests that make it devalued

I love you guys separately and I love that you connected and are making this channel - so great together! I think shopping is like fishing - yes, so many reasons for doing it and it can mean so many different things. And various things to do with the fish after we catch them. (And I also knew a woman who would go fishing without bait because she liked the meditative experience but didn’t actually enjoy catching anything.) Sometimes an outing to a thrift store or consignment store feels like I want to say “Gone Fishing”.

Love this topic. My fantasy self was fancy and wore super colorful Lilly Pulitzer. I spent hundreds on LP stuff that wasn't me, so I never wore it. My true style is very minimal and neutral. I used to think neutral or typical minimalist style was deemed "bad" but I've totally embraced it and am moving past "her." Topic idea - can you guys talk about handbags? I love designer bags, mostly lower end like Coach etc. I want to be minimalist with bags. Is there a go to minimalist or "perfect" handbag to any of you? Would love your thoughts on that!

Great discussion! I think fashion can be frivolous sometimes but it can also be very meaningful and important at other times. I teach classes on visual literacy sometimes and we talk about what an important currency the visual is. As a queer woman of colour in an often conservative industry (primary education), my desire to express my queerness, my culture can clash with conservative ideas of ‘professionalism’. To me, my fashion acts to challenge cis-hetero norms, especially among children. So I don’t think that is frivolous lol. It also reminds me of who I am and what I value in what can be a very oppressive workplace and society. Love your discussions and will be here for the next one :)

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

This was so inisightful - thank you for sharing! Love the idea of visual literacy / currency. xx

Thank you. Each one of you is amazing and together you create and deep and smart conversation. I would say that fashion can be frivolous but you can do good as well; it is always pleasing to see someone well put together and you help many achieve that.

Love you three! As a teacher in Canada, I find our dress codes (at least where I work) have become more and more casual. Not necessarily a bad thing but I do see a difference in confidence and respect on days where our staff is wearing more business casual outfits vs. super casual. I love fashion and feel my best when I’ve put effort into how I present myself.

First off, I love the content. I've always cared about how I dressed but was mocked for it. I briefly worked as a buyer for two brands, United Colours of Benetton and Country Road Australia WAY back when the quality was very high and loved it. Unfortunately, I couldn't make a decent living. So I moved into the Food business. That being said, I find cloths are my armor when basically being out in the world especially when presenting, traveling etc,. It changes my mood. I probably care too much but don't care. I appreciate the perspective from all of you. There was a video prior to this one, where Perfectionism was called out and that gave me pause. I tend to go there and maybe need to evaluate internally. Thanks again.

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

YES. Clothes as armour is a real thing. Thanks for sharing! xx

So glad you guys uploaded it here ❤

Loved it!❤

I really liked the studies you referred to about how we dress affecting our confidence. I wonder though if this is also about our individual attitudes to clothing and its role as we age. Like the study subjects, I always found that if i dressed the part I felt more confident and contributed positively to how I shared the information particularly in meetings. But I found that it is a 2 way street and with people that think fashion is frivolous (I worked with scientists, medicos and academics), I felt that sometimes that is all that they saw. It may also have had to do with the demographic I was dealing with (male and older).

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

That is such a great point about the idea of fashion's frivolity being a double edged sword. Thank you for sharing! xx

I'm way late to catching this video and joining the conversation as someone who just discovered your individual and collaborative KZread channels in the pursuit of understanding and developing my personal style. I'm realizing I downplayed caring about style for nearly 40 years. Because of being plus size since I was a teen, I often had to dress very matronly even when young for lack of options in general or that were affordable. With both parents and a Grandma with strong personal style, I had great influences for style and quality mattering. Also, working in higher education, I feel like style is considered frivolous in this setting compared to more cerebral pursuits...but that both can matter. I work in an office where we talk about fashion, trends, and sustainability, and we celebrate our unique styles. I think aover-arching paradigms that influence the idea of fashion being frivolous are capitalism, the patriarchy, and sexism. Fashion is primarily considered to matter to women or femmes, or it is used as part of expression within a counter-culture that may be directly rejecting the mainstream like classism or reclaiming a style narrative such as mainstreaming of the clothes worn by blue collar workers as part of labor movements. There are so many interesting layers to this topic, but fundamentally, I think a core issue is that womyn and that which is stereotypically designated as feminine don't matter. The service jobs in fashion retail or sometimes even in garment-making, sewing (vs. cobbling, more dominated by men) are all typically under-valued and under-paid, so this all translates into "fashion is frivolous." You can find parallel explanations of why and how the planet (feminized as Mother Earth) doesn't matter compared to the global economy and corporate rights to financial growth at all costs. Sooooo sustainable fashion is fighting a big fight. Thanks for exploring the conversation and reflection!

I so loved this. You touched some very important points and I am here for it! 💕

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

yesssss ❤ love to hear it!

I love this, listening to you reflect on the love of fashion from a conscious perspective, both emotionally and financially! I really needed to hear this. Great podcast !!

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening!

Really interesting discussion and perspectives

yayyyyy so exciteddd to find this

@SustainThis_Podcast

11 ай бұрын

yayyyyy excited you're here!

@Santafefashionweek

11 ай бұрын

We agree

Loads of food for thought.

Smart women. Interesting topic!

@Santafefashionweek

11 ай бұрын

We agree

What happened to episodes 1 to 6. I just found out about this podcast and want to watch from the start

Remember in the devil wears Prada, the new assistant snickered at 2 belts? And got dressed down on how important fashion really is?

Even Moms need time and money for themselves! Every person deserves a wardrobe they love as well as the time they need to feel their best, men and women, parents or not.

I think Cigne's online address is very unfortuate choice. I understand she means Use Less, but it reads as Useless. I wonder if that feeds into the idea that what she's doing is frivolous?