The look of the kia is just awesome! Looks really expensive, modern, cool. The Toyota hasn't really upgraded much as far as looks go. Love the gas mileage, smooth ride, AWD, and sunroof of the Toyota. Love the looks, technology, tires, of the kia. Honestly think they should talk to families with children to get input on the perfect minivan.

Great job! This is the comparison many have been waiting for. Thank you!

I'm not in the market for a minivan, but I thoroughly enjoyed this comparison video!! You guys have THE BEST car comparison videos on KZread, period!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@CarConfections

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!!

@JoshWeaverRC

2 жыл бұрын

But the kia is not a minivan, it's a multi purpose vehicle. Lol

Wow you guys have done a really good job on this comparison great work.

Thank you so much for adding a real world decibel reading, this is an incredible important feature. Family vehicles usually = long trips = must have quiet cabin. Please start to add time stops with titles on your videos to make them even more easy to navigate through.

The KIA Carnival all the way! It's an amazing car. I love mine!

@pranshugarg8714

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Stephanie, How long have you been using it? How's the drive quality? I am inclined towards an EX but couldn't get a test drive yet but was able to look at it and it was amazing.

@stephanieortiz2471

2 жыл бұрын

@@pranshugarg8714 I've had it since 10May. I love it so much. It drives super smooth. Everything about it is just amazing. I have the SX trim.

@flowers9458

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanieortiz2471 we have the SX trim. For the price difference you get so much more for your money

@stephanieortiz2471

2 жыл бұрын

@@flowers9458 exactly and the SX Prestige isn't all that if you look at all the videos about it. It's not practical. Maybe if I didn't have kids I'd get one or if my kids are all grown lol

@flowers9458

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanieortiz2471 yeah losing the extra seat for reclining bucket seats doesn’t sell me. I do wish that the SX had a blinker camera though

Awesome Video, Also I Totally Love Both Of The Minivan's. I Totally Love The Different Design & The Fuel Economy.

@KrazyWorldWars

2 жыл бұрын

Well fuel economy on the Pacific sucks. 17 combined.

finally!!! someone did a comparison of the Sienna Hybrid and the new Carnival! Thank you very much!!!

@CarConfections

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

@rockjock32492

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarConfections absolutely amazing review. Thank you for your work!

You guys rock every time with these comparison videos! Much love!

@CarConfections

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

1k miles into my 2022 Carnival SX and I'm loving it thus far. More space than you know what to do with. The tech is awesome. It was either the Carnival or the Palisade, but I gave up the Palisade AWD for more space in the KIA, plus some savings with the Kia being cheaper. The ride is silky smooth. The vehicle never feels big. The 360 cam, cooled front seats and larger infotainment screen set the hook for me. Kids love the rear screens, but folks should know that the vehicle doesn't have a hotspot for mobile data. I purchased a T-Mobile 5G hotspot, and I dumped 30gbs of movies to USB sticks and the kids have everything they need. Only a few things that I would ding KIA on with the Carnival- none of them deal breakers at all. 1- Too much piano black accent in the cabin. Yes, it's what is in expensive European sports sedans, but it's not something you want in a vehicle with kids. I stash a microfiber towel in the glove for periodic wipe downs. 2. No wireless Apple Car/Android Auto. Bad MISS by KIA- actually all South Korean companies as they're all not supporting the wireless with the larger screen infotainment systems that have NAV. 3. No USB charge/power port in the console cubby. WHAT? The vehicle has like 9 USB charging ports, but none inside the cubby where you can stash things like a 5G hotspot to charge. I can't have wires exposed in my ride. Looks trashy IMO. Gotta be able to stash stuff away that's being charged. 4. The vehicle won't save your driver assist preferences. If you want to prevent the computer from applying brakes in emergency stop situations, there are options in the vehicle settings to switch to "Alarm only!" You can select those, but once you turn the key off, those settings revert back. Hopefully KIA resolves that with a future software update because that feels like a major glitch. I DO NOT want a computer applying my brakes. We've had a few folks on the Carni Owners forum report the vehicle performing emergency stops on the highway in error. That needs to be resolved. All in all, a wonderful vehicle!!

@dragonlips2005

2 жыл бұрын

Update: Kia has since released a software update the enables a 4G hotspot in the car. They give you a trial data package with Verizon. So most Carnis will have you covered if you need that mobile data.

@nationalwalker11

2 жыл бұрын

I planning to buy palisade but Carnival looks more attractive choice. Que: 1) just like palisade, does carnival have complete stop n go capability with its cruise control? 2) How is the ride quality compared to palisade? 3) is it worth loosing HUD, mood lights, better driver seat comfort & AWD for Carnival's space?

@Kaulana478

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I was wondering if you could stream stuff from your phone to the rear screens.

@danr4197

2 жыл бұрын

Your luck you even got one! May I ask what you paid over MSRP? I bet it was a lot.

@dragonlips2005

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kaulana478 some people have streamed to the screens using Usb/HDMI devices like Rokus or Firesticks. I actually just bought two cheap micro USB cards and dumped a bunch of movies and videos on them for the kids. They had hours of content via USB.

What a way to compare vehicles. This side by side is just a neat idea. Kudos! We almost went with Sienna until we experienced the cabin quality. We chose Carnival at the end.

@CarConfections

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed 😁

13:43 don’t JUST wait until you get to to speed to do the quiet test. TEST IT AS YOUR ACCELERATING BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE QUIET THERE TOO.

@tomsawyer4857

2 жыл бұрын

Great point. All the Toyota hybrids I had were very noisy when accelerating hard.

@peacefultorture

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I just test drove both of these and the Sienna sounds like it struggles HARD when accelerating. The acceleration itself is just fine, but that sound was like "are you ok Sienna?"

@DamianOzzy

2 жыл бұрын

The Toyota sounds horrible accelerating and was given points. I dunno.

Another quality comparison video you guys are really honing and mastering your craft with this video format great work as always 😎

@CarConfections

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Josh!

Excellent comparison…the points you rated that’s great Really good job in this..

@CarConfections

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

All wheel drive is worth 10 point to me in the northwest, where the terrain tends to be slippery and hilly. MPG is far more important that drag racing. Even though your point system appears to give weight to rather minor differences, I appreciate the comparison.

@JoshWeaverRC

2 жыл бұрын

Vans with weight over the front wheels seem to do fine by me.

@Mu5tyLaghmani

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoshWeaverRC Not in snow, I agree with the guy that AWD and fuel efficiency is a big plus points.

@vuville514

2 жыл бұрын

Give me snow tires on the Carnival against AWD on the Sienna. Carnival wins in traction, cornering, and stopping.

@josephgries4683

Жыл бұрын

@@vuville514 I'll take awd and snow tires thx

@alianetwork6190

Жыл бұрын

you just want the sienna to win because thats the car you have right? it took the sienna the entire video to get close to getting a lead on the carnival

Great review. The Kia Carnival is an non Hybrid engine. The Toyota Sienna being an Hybrid engine you don't hear the engine clearly.

@Mabeylater293

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you’re used to driving a raggedy Ford pintos with broken muffler, WE DON’T WANT TO HEAR OUR ENGINE!!!!!!

@nonturbosupra1993

2 жыл бұрын

Wait! Coming soon.

I've had 1 Toyota and 3 Kia's the Carnival hands down for me, that along with the Telluride are hard to come by, most are pre sold..

Test drove the Sienna last weekend and came away impressed. Would love to test drive the Carnival, but they're sold before they get to the dealership!

@polofunk

2 жыл бұрын

Dang just like the Telluride

@flowers9458

2 жыл бұрын

Wait for the Carnival you won’t be disappointed. We love ours! We drove 250 miles to buy one

@peacefultorture

2 жыл бұрын

@@polofunk as if the Tellurides aren't the most in-demand, already-sold SUVs in the USA.

@stephanieortiz2471

2 жыл бұрын

If you're impressed with the Sienna, you'd be blown away by the Carnival. I love my SX trim in Ceramic silver!

@fakedazzleful

2 жыл бұрын

@@polofunk what else can they buy? Honda and Toyota have a shortage. If you go to a Honda lot ot Toyota. You'll be lucky to get 10 models of rav4 but go to a kia lot and You'll have plenty of option

Excellent review. Love the scoring system.

@CarConfections

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed our weekly comparison!

Nice job! Thanks 😊

Honestly if KIA brings the Carnival in AWD, it’s going to be a market game changer. I like that it’s a minivan but looks like more like an SUV too. I’ve never purchased a Korean car, but I’m really considering it with everything they’re doing.

@flowers9458

2 жыл бұрын

Do it! We love ours and it’s fun to drive and there’s literally no other minivan that looks cool

@flutter_togetha

2 жыл бұрын

Too much glossy black interior, if you're fine with it..

@flowers9458

2 жыл бұрын

@@flutter_togetha but the Toyota interior is like driving in a plastic tube

@peacefultorture

2 жыл бұрын

@@flowers9458 you both have good points. I'll take gloss black over the 90's minivan aesthetic.

@meghannicole23

2 жыл бұрын

If it ever comes in AWD it’s game over for all the other car brands that carry a minivan. Kia has definitely impressed me with all their makeovers

I went with a full loaded Sienna xle . Went from nyc to Boston for a long weekend on a tank and 1/2 of gas . It’s awesome !

@dupax5053

2 жыл бұрын

I really love how the Carnival looks but we still opted for the Sienna for the peace of mind. Plus the new look Sienna is not really too bad

@boblewis1287

2 жыл бұрын

The best of the rest

@boblewis1287

2 жыл бұрын

@@dupax5053 junk

Best, most professional car comparison videos I've seen on youtube. Congrats. You got a new subscriber.

@CarConfections

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Al! Welcome to the Car Confections crew 😁

@aldemio8807

Жыл бұрын

@@CarConfections 🙏👍

Great video. Only complaint is giving half a point for dual screens v no screens. Also, you can watch 2 different shows + streaming Netflix. You gave as many points to this game changer as 2 extra cup holders... Great content tho!

Went with the Kia Carnival! You won’t be disappointed. Magnificently made!

@pierrenj79

2 жыл бұрын

Me too just purchased the SX prestige .. miles and years ahead of Toyota or even Lexus.. this comment is coming from a person who already Driving Toyota Avalon ..

I ordered a carnival because I looked at used odyssey’s and siennas they wanted the same price as a brand new Kia. I ordered the SX and it comes with an amazing warranty vs buying a used odyssey with 40k miles on it. I really am not worried about the lack of awd I live in a medium climate and have driven everything from cars to Escalades. I can’t wait for cheaper tires and the fancy inside compared to my suv.. We never use our moon roof even when we had a double with kids and heat pounding on your head they just aren’t that useful for me with kids so ours is usually closed except small gaps in fall and spring so no moonroof is fine. With the shortage it took almost 6 weeks to get it we are supposed to have it soon. First minivan so hopefully I made the right choice. Buying a Kia was weird and a van but I think new is better then used.

@Rlprime

2 жыл бұрын

What state are you in? Any markups?

@archdomster9446

2 жыл бұрын

You made the right decision. I’ve owned Kia before and going almost to the highest end is a good choice. We also owned Toyota luxury minivans and Hyundais as well as western luxury cars, but I have to say, the new Kia’s are really well designed and the higher ends have amazing smart features that the other brands don’t even include. My BFF owns 3 Toyota dealerships but I still prefer KIAs.

@timgriffith2995

2 жыл бұрын

@hon solo Obviously you are correct about fuel savings, but your comment about the Toyota costing less after four years "especially in repairs" does not make sense considering the Kia has a 5 year standard warranty (so repairs would be covered under warranty...).

Toyota has a very long history of the best cars. reliable and quality.thank you guys you did a very good job. I wish you all the best.

This was a very well done video guys! Keep up the great work

@CarConfections

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Comparing a limited FWD Toyota to a carnival SX would have been a closer comparison. AWD is a standalone feature; isolating this comparison to a cost equivalent doesn’t make sense. Also, from what I’ve noticed, the sticker price has very little to do with what you’ll actually pay. . . .

@edbreyer

2 жыл бұрын

@hon solo Actually - if you do mostly highway driving the hybrid MPG is only marginally better. City/Town driving is where it shines - so depends on your planned use.

@Mu5tyLaghmani

2 жыл бұрын

@hon solo If you live in Canada or some part of US the AWD is a big plus point as well as fuel efficiency, I don't know why would ppl go for electronic gadgets over fundamentals and reliability, where Toyota has proven itself.

@TheScablander

2 жыл бұрын

Carnivals where I’m at are 20k over MSRP. We got a sienna XLE at msrp. Taking delivery next week.

Please do the same comparison between the KIA Carnival SX Prestige and a 2022 Honda Odyssey Touring model.

Love your reviews! Just a suggestion, maybe have a segment for vehicles resale/trade in value? This is something to consider when I look for a vehicle knowing it's value after several years. Thanks.

Great comparison, The VIP lounge seats in the top of the line Kia Carnival made me choose Kia. Those seats are better than the Lexus LX Luxury edition ($140-150k)

You gave the Toy 1.5 points for the fuel savings, but I didn't hear a life expectancy on the batteries nor the cost of replacement to offset the gasoline differences. Why not include that in your evaluation?

@rachelmori4297

7 ай бұрын

Not sure on this one, however my Prius had the battery replaced at 215000 miles

@bbayerit

7 ай бұрын

@@rachelmori4297 Not being an EV owner, but previously driving 122-mile round trip to work every day, the battery wouldn't last a year apparently for me. Now I'm down to about 12,000/year and on a fixed income the typical cost of replacing the battery would put me in the poor house.

Great review. Today's KIA is what Toyota use to be, but on a much higher technology/value proposition. When KIA brings on hybrid and/or electric flavors, it's game over.

@CarConfections

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@weareallamericans7358

2 жыл бұрын

@hon solo Time will tell.

@edbreyer

2 жыл бұрын

@hon solo So who is the arrogant one?? Do you have a mirror handy?

@jaytee742gearhead7

8 ай бұрын

Go to any Kia dealership service department and you will change your tune. They have a list of problems on every model. Appointment time is two weeks they are so backed up.

@weareallamericans7358

8 ай бұрын

@@jaytee742gearhead7 and it takes an act of Congress for Toyota to admit there's a problem with any of their cars. At least, Hyundai and Kia takes action.

I tow fully optioned 16 foot Starcraft with my 2011 Sedona. It does a heck of a job for a minivan by the way. What are the towing capacity of these two?

It’s hard to dismiss the MPG. Other brands offer more luxury but the Cabot match the MPG offered by the Sienna. We’re buying one because, living in the PNW, traffic would kill our gas mileage.

Hi Enjoying most of the videos so please keep up the good work. lf l may makie a suggestion about the comparison vidoes, l know it may not be easy but may be you can do something about it. 1.Can you not do a side by side comparison not top and bottom with scores displayed in the corners? lf not the current format is fine. 2. Maybe narrow the blach spaces when doing comparisons, it looks like when you take pictures with a phone and there are those black bars which could be better used to show the cars. Anyway, thanks for the videos. :Looking forward to more good things from you.

@CarConfections

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And thanks for the feedback. We might be able to stretch one larger than the other for some of the clips to reduce the black space. But it will get cut off somewhat since both clips are 16:9 aspect ratio, and trying to fit inside a 16:9 screen. We will give it a shot 👍

@bobojo8591

3 жыл бұрын

@@CarConfections Thanks for the reply, had no idea about that side of editting, Anyway all the best with that.

I don't understand why depreciation and future repairs aren't a big factor in your comparison. Without massive accidents, high chance most siennas are still on the road in 15 years. Will anyone take my bet that most Kias will not be? Leasing a Kia may be ok though.

@ratbert1009ca

2 жыл бұрын

Still driving my 2001 Camry (20 years) but will upgrade likely to the hydrid Sienna this year

@Voop12345

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

We got the Kia Carnival SX. We are enjoying it so far and we have no complaints but I do love that Sienna MPG though.

Really good side by side review. 👌 Awsome

@CarConfections

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I think if people can over looks, and status, minivan's are a great buy. Of course if you are hauling heavy trailers, a big SUV or truck is a better option. But minivan's provide so much for what you are paying for, especially when it comes to tech and comfortability. Not to mention it's great for smaller children to get in and out of and/or if you have elderly in your family. I can see Kia in the next few years have a hybrid (or even fully electric) option for it's minivan. Great comparison

AWD is a must to me...Bring it on Kia!

@dailylifeofanything399

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Kia with that awd system in their minivan will end the competition. That car looking so sweet

Great comparison. How does the Sienna's performance with a full load of passengers and luggages?

Carnival first year production has 2 recalls already. the 2022 sienna has a great warranty • Warranty o Basic warranty: 36 months/36,000miles o Corrosion perforation warranty: 60 months/ unlimited distance o Hybrid/electric system compone warranty: 96 months/100,000miles o Maintenance warranty: 24 months/25,000miles o Powertrain warranty: 60 months/60,000miles o Roadside assistance coverage: 24 months/ unlimited distance o Traction battery warranty: 120 months/150,000miles

I want the hybrid Sienna, and I wish there was a full PEV option. We have a large family and we've owned multiple different minivans--favorite for comfort was the Chevy Venture, but it had a horrible reliability rating. That was exactly my experience. The Mercury Villager felt very cheap--it was small, flimsy, and powerless. The Dodge Caravan wasn't as comfortable as the Venture, but better than the Villager. It worked well--until it didn't. It needed 3 transmissions by the time it hit 150,000 miles. Finally, we opted for the more expensive Sienna and that's where we've stayed. Reliable, comfortable, adequate power. Now I want to quit paying for gas. I don't ever want to deal with a transmission again. Bring on the EV.

Thank you for your review.I made my final decision to go with Carnival.

Wow, excellent comparison video ever seen! You won new suscribe!

@CarConfections

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Welcome to the Car Confections family!

Got my wife the 2021 Toyota Sienna. Love it. Great on gas huge inside . Drives ok. For a 4 Cylinder.

LOve the Carnival, but I'm going with the Sienna due to Hybrid drive train and AWD. That makes it a game changer .

@smrtguy77777

Жыл бұрын

Yeah to me it automatically wins just because of those two things.

@preyingmathis2517

Жыл бұрын

CVT transmissions haven't exactly been reliable. And the warranty Toyota offers for the powertrain isn't very good. Just something to really consider lol those CVT transmissions are expensive to fix or replace.

@smrtguy77777

Жыл бұрын

@@preyingmathis2517 The CVT in a Toyota hybrid is not at all similar to a CVT in a purely ICE vehicle, it’s night and day.

@Voop12345

Жыл бұрын

@@preyingmathis2517 toyota is the number one brand in reliability. I don't think this should be a concern lol especially with their warranties.

@preyingmathis2517

Жыл бұрын

@@Voop12345 I've done some more research since my last comment and have to admit I am wrong. CVT transmissions have come a long way and if something goes wrong they are cheaper to fix because there's not as many moving parts. It would appear that they are actually pretty good nowadays. And I do agree that Toyota is one of the best if not the best brands out there.

Sienna all the way, had a 2011 and upgraded to a 2021 a few months ago and this thing is just a dream/fun to drive. On our 4th Toyota and wouldn't buy anything else. Reliability is what I look for and none of them have ever left me sit. And Toyota's resale value is off the charts! This family of 5 Approves! ;)

@flowers9458

2 жыл бұрын

We just bought the Carnival after test driving all of the other comparable vans. Not only did it have more options and better looks, it has a better warranty. This family of 5 approves 😉

@Ray-wr2wr

5 ай бұрын

​@flowers9458 Kia service department is strait up GHETTO at least here in long island NY

@Ray-wr2wr

5 ай бұрын

​@flowers9458 u get a 10 years warranty, from kia that only cares for u for first couple years, then you have to wait for your service appointment 2-3 MONTHS 😢 kia low lifes

I could be mistaken but I believe the Carnival SX trim was originally supposed to have an all digital gauge cluster but that had to be nixxed because of the chip shortage. That speedometer and tach look exactly like the ones on the lower end Sedonas from the prior generation. I have a 2017 SX so my temp and gas gauge are digital but in the L and LX trims for the 2015 - 2021 model years they are analog. I think Kia basically had to reach into the parts bin here because of the chip shortage.

Hi, we test drove the 2022 sienna. The cabin wind noise was pretty loud. Did you feel this when you were driving it and how do you feel the carnival compared as far as the cabin noise. I know your Sound meter showed that the carnival had a higher level of noise.

No AWD on the Carnival is a deal killer for me, totally would have jumped on it.

@darien1784

2 жыл бұрын

Who needs an AWD minivan...at that point get a truck or crossover

@flowers9458

2 жыл бұрын

Does the Sienna?

@RyderandNyahsToybox

2 жыл бұрын

@@darien1784 I definitely understand your point and was also looking at the Telluride along with other contenders, although as a current Odyssey owner (2013 and no AWD version) and making almost weekly trips to Big Bear/Mammoth with my wife and kids, we love the comfort, sliding doors and space of the Odyssey. Unfortunately we didn’t get the AWD version so found ourselves sliding and lacking grip, slapping on chains are never fun. With AWD we’d have that little extra push to get us up the mountain, unless of course it’s R3 conditions where chains are mandatory regardless. Kids would love the reclining seats and comfort on our long drives up the mountain; while each families’ needs are different, those are just some of our personal ones we’re looking for in our next vehicle.

@RyderandNyahsToybox

2 жыл бұрын

@@flowers9458 Yes, although I personally prefer the interior and exterior look of the Carnival, not to mention the better warranty on the Kia.

@JoshWeaverRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@RyderandNyahsToybox one of the only situations where awd may be warranted. Fwd and snow tires for me and I'm fine in my minivan. Inclines will always be a beast though.

I was struggling between Sienna and Odyssey. Now I'm struggling between Sienna, Odyssey and Carnival.

@prashanthtalla

2 жыл бұрын

That is always the problem with so many choices but Sienna is hybrid, and known for its reliability...Odyssey too. I'm not sure about Carnival. And how about resale value?

@1nvertedd

2 жыл бұрын

@@prashanthtalla atm resale value on the telluride is great, i mean some that are used go for higher than new ones. So id think this one is good as well.

@yuletak

2 жыл бұрын

@@1nvertedd I think you have to consider that current market conditions aren't normal. Once there is more supply to meet demand, prices will come back down. Plus vehicle sales have been suppressed during the pandemic, thus causing pent up demand.

@garliangarcia8433

2 жыл бұрын

Carnival FTW.

@ohitsham

2 жыл бұрын

@@prashanthtalla I've heard from people that honda and toyota reliability has been dropping and kia has been rising. This is what most people said in 2020 that ive read, but idk about 2021.

Great review, great job guys. Thanks.

I have heard Kia's have problems after 60k miles. I would like to know reliability after 100k to 150k. I would also like to know how easy standard maintenance is on both.

The carnival is pretty stinkin nice! How is the reliability of kia's though? My aunt had a kia and it was always in the shop for something

You are the man. AWESOME review. Yours was one of a few reviews that really helped us make our decision. We actually just bought a 2022 LX Seat Package Carnival and we really like it. After researched every minivan/MPV option VERY thoroughly we concluded that Carnival really has the best total package nailed, all things considered. Those include storage space, leg room, interior/exterior SUV design, more ground clearance, safety, better reliability than all other options in recent years, very respectable gas mileage (we’re getting 30+ on highway), unrivaled infotainment user experience, and the best warranty in the business. We used to be a Honda family but it feels like Honda has stopped trying (feels cheap, much less reliable, and VERY cramped drivers seat leg area), Chrysler interior still feels old school (with lackluster long-term satisfaction), and Toyota will cost you premium dollars for hybrid and AWD (but mechanics tell me that those options lead to more expensive maintenance in the long run). Regarding AWD, I discovered a great KZread video showing how snow tires (plus traction control) make a much bigger difference than having AWD in the winter. And the Carnival has the BEST 2nd row center/8th seat (especially vs Honda and Toyota), reversible (rear-facing 2nd row option), and with the LX seat package we can remove 2nd row seats if we need to. And the price is VERY competitive. Toyota’s CEO recently admitted that Hyundai/Kia is the one brand family that worries him when considering their competition. For good reason.

@CarConfections

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad we help!

@JoshWeaverRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah snow tires on my t&c make it so easy. Thanks for all the info. My wife likes the carnival and sitting in it felt natural. My SUV is a rear wheel 6 speed manual and I'm so glad I stayed simple and light. I'm at 208k miles. The MPG is hard to turn away from but we drive easy. Will be looking to get 30 plus. My t&c gets maybe 29 at most.

@howardlee2172

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a Toyota guy but you made me reconsider my mind. Thanks for all the excellent informations. 👍

Good video! Curious about the cabin noise in sienna. I'm shopping minivans and it seeems every brand has its upperhand. For Sienna, it's the engine noise, low tech and limited availability that stops me.

Thanks for doing this exact comparison. Was planning on buying a used Sienna in a week. Didn't realize Mia still made a minivan. I thought the Carnival was another suv. I just made a reservation for a Carnival in transit

@CarConfections

Жыл бұрын

Glad we could help!

Based on some sales metrics I read recently, minivan models w/ avail AWD make up only 10% of sales numbers (forget the source). I think given the cost of R&D and manufacturing that goes into AWD, I can see why manufacturers aren't too inclined. In addition, AWD tends to be found in the higher end models as well. So unless you're in bad weather all the time, it's just not worth the returns for manufacturers. Also, IMO, AWD can give you a false sense of security. I have a Subaru w/ AWD. Without the proper tires, AWD isn't going to help you in snowy/icy conditions. Will certainly help in wet weather, but you're better off driving more carefully. Just my opinion of course. I also want to add that 19" wheels are going to introduce more road noise into the cabin as equipped. Not sure how much less noisy the Kia would be w/ the standard 17" wheels, but noise should be lower.

@verynick

2 жыл бұрын

100% with you on that about AWD. I just don’t get the obsession with it. I have driven in my fwd Corolla in snow couple of times with no issue. Better mpg and less cost on maintenance is hard to beat in fwd

@edbreyer

2 жыл бұрын

We have always had front wheel drive minivans in IL/WI area (i.e. snow) and never had an issue. Key is to have good all-season tires.

@peterp.wanabe9299

2 жыл бұрын

After having two vehicles with AWD I can say I believe ALL vehicles should be AWD. The stability on the road is just amazing and to be able to handle an unforeseen situation with ease is great. What I'd really like to see is an AWD system that incorporates enhanced stability control and even 4 wheel steering assist.

@yuletak

2 жыл бұрын

So I just took my Carnival up to the Yosemite area in late November. Fortunately, it didn't snow at all on the way up, but after I got there, we got a lot of snow. I bought a pair of chains, tho it's not recommended by the owner's manual, and these I test fitted before heading up. The way the chains went on, there was no damage to the wheels, which are ALU alloy. I wasn't going as fast as AWD vehicles, but the Carnival was pretty steady as I was careful about braking too late. My next step is to look at either all-season tires rated for winter/snow driving or purely winter/snow rated tires. This is more for my peace of mind. My point is that if you're careful, AWD isn't strictly necessary unless you really need to drive around in bad snow weather all the time.

The Toyota sienna hybrid battery is actually up under the front two seats

I have the 2022 Sienna, and it will collect debris inside the rear bumper causing part of the Toyota Safety Sense to fail (RCTA and BSM). It's a design flaw. So if you own this van, be prepared to regularly spray out the inside of the bumper. I would not recommend driving the Sienna on anything but dry roads with minimal dirt.

I love my Kia Sedona. The Carnival has a large SUV exterior but I love the two tone gray and tan leather seats with red threads. I'm on my second Sedona because the first one was totalled by a 60mph side collision to my Sedona. I believe the van saved my granddaughters and my life. I know what the Sedona held up to in that crash, so I bought another Sedona

Kia Carnival is a real temptation for me and my family shopping for a minivan right now especially due to the tech specs and innovations. But my final choice has to be the old and gold sienna toyota as it offers the hybrid option (it saves so much more gas!!!) and the awd which is a must for us. Besides being toyota the top number 1 reliable brand in the auto world. I also loved the 2 years complementary maintainance from toyota. It's not as stylish and full of perks as the Kia model buuuttt at the end of the day it offers the best for my family

Kia is prettier (to my liking) both exterior and interior. Utility are about the same. BUT, i live in Quebec , so AWD is a definitive advantage, and i do 30k mile per year, so fuel economy is also a MAJOR advantage. Resale value of the Toyota will be a lot better , cuz first it’s a Toyota, AND it’s the only Hybrid AWD currently on the market, so it will be the first one available used in a few years too. So Sienna was the clear winner for me, but i’d prefer the Carnival look

@dryananderson

2 жыл бұрын

About utility, Carnival has so much more interior space. Sienna second row cannot be removed. Big difference.

@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah 2020 was the last Sienna for Me. I guess I will always continue to be the Used Japanese Durable Car King.

@waylondaly7629

2 жыл бұрын

@@dryananderson actually the 2nd row seats can be removed! Fairly easily as well, just nit as easy as the back seats. Takes about 10 minutes

@touthoj1987

2 жыл бұрын

@@waylondaly7629 you want to mess with airbag and void your warranty and 10min ...

Has anyone done a comparison of the top of the line audio systems comparing the Kia Prestige's Bose with the Toyota Sienna Platinum's JBL?

How much markup can you pay on the fuel cost differences?

I think all the major minivan players (Honda, Kia, Toyota, Chrysler) have solid vehicles, but I think Kia just gives you much more bang for your buck.

@Rlprime

2 жыл бұрын

Not the way they’re selling. Not sure where you’re at but I was quoted close to $70k OTD for a Kia sx

@garybolenable

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rlprime - I can only speak for the Sedona I bought 3.5 years ago, but I would be interested in hearing how much you would be quoted for a minivan from one of the other major players for the same features, before I ragged on Kia.

@dryananderson

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rlprime I think you hit upon the big issue. Don’t choose a brand and try and play dealers off each other. Shop 2-3 brands and see who is discounting and who isn’t. If the vans are all similar, price becomes the deciding factor.

@garybolenable

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rlprime - Sounds like you're getting ripped off. I just did an inventory search for the Kia Carnival SX Prestige with a 100+ mile search radius from my house and the highest price quoted was $47,770.

@Rlprime

2 жыл бұрын

@@garybolenable was this an actual quote from a dealer or is this msrp on their website? They all say 40s on the website. When I actually email to inquire 4 dealers around me for a carnival sx, they were all marked up to $65k+

Kia look nice i love your videos

What about resale value or reliability? Are they both similiar?

Howdy, awesome video and great comparison as always y’all! While I’d personally take the Carnival, both are great choices!😸😸

Since I already drive a hybrid and am used to how they drive, the Sienna, even though the Carnival looks better imo. I'd rather have the high mpg.

@batman1169

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a Kia, it will last 3 years then major failures. 🤦‍♂️😆

@adilsagadiyev5090

2 жыл бұрын

@@batman1169 maybe in 20120 new kias easily last 10 years

@stevennguyen7753

2 жыл бұрын

@@adilsagadiyev5090 if you keep it in a garage and drive it like 3 times a month

@adilsagadiyev5090

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevennguyen7753 let me reword that, will last 10 years over 150k miles

@slee2695

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevennguyen7753 does vietnam make any cars?..lmao

Hybrid is never the deal breaker for me when shopping for family hauler. Carnival ANYDAY👍👍

@joea1018

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I'm a Toyota fan boy because I've purchased them over the years and they are solid reliability. Toyota has 20 plus years building hybrids and has it down to a science! Everyone that I know that purchased a Kia has regret the decision. They don't last over 80k miles and needs the engine replaced.

@emed1977

2 жыл бұрын

At $5.50 a gallon, that hybrid is looking pretty sweet right now.

your video says Sienna rear seats dont fold in to floor, saw other video showing that they do, who is correct, you state batteries in the way ???

The most important are the engine and the transmission reliabilities. I go for the Toyota.

AWD all the way for me it wasn't even a question to consider... Space tork and AWD plus the Toyota quality for me. Love my Sienna !

The price is similar but the trim level is not the same...

Anyone knows which minivan has comfortable ride quality? Also reliability? Kia service department straight up GHETTO in LONG ISLAND NY ((( im debating whether to buy SIENNA or kia

The Carneval does not have LED tail light even at SX trim?

The question for me is..can a Carnival go over 200,000 miles?

@kgirishchandra

Жыл бұрын

I am planning to go long on this baby. Reach out to me in 20 years 😉

@spoutingfiction

8 ай бұрын

My college car was a Kia rio. Sold it at 180k miles (bought at 50k miles). Never had an issue.

Sienna for resale value and reliability. I love mine.

how are the sienna's silver alloys? They are allow with cheap chrome glued on.

Captain seats in second row not mentioned? This feature should be 2 points easy

Carnival for me!

I'm surprised kia didn't make a hybrid model

Smart cruise control on Kia vs hybrid on sienna. What to choose depends on your needs

I like both am looking for driving in uber which one is the best for driving uber.

I have the Sienna and like it a lot... but I think if the Carnival was available at the time back in Febraury, I would had gone with the Carnival. I test drove it 3 times and I thought it was more comfortable and had more cargo space behind the third row...something I miss with the new Sienna vs my previous Gen3 Sienna. Also, all the hollow plastic in the interior of the Sienna still bothers me.... but hey, the MPGs are outstanding and makes me content with the Sienna, gas is $4+ where I am.... averaging 38.7 overall and on a recent road trip driving for a long period, I was getting 42+ mpg.

@hassankhan

2 жыл бұрын

what is your recommendation , should i wait for hybrid prime type sienna (where the first 50mi are 100% electric) or should i just get the 2022 hybrid sienna on financing or should i just lease the 2022 hybrid sienna and hope for a plug-in type prime hybrid in next 2 - 4 years ?

@kgregory9026

2 жыл бұрын

@@hassankhan I would either wait or go for the lease. The hybrid prime is the one to own long term. IMO

The KIA engine is better then the Telluride and is the same engine as the Genesis GV80 without the supercharger, so it really is in a league of its own. It was designed by Karim Habib who worked for BMW for over 20yrs. The sport mode in this “ fun bus “ is amazing! Yeah Toyota has hybrid but lacks sporty driving and most drivers wanting a V6 and SUV ride will go for the luxury VIP SX Prestige. I don’t have young kids. I test drove everything from Mercedes GLS, BMW to Chevy Traverse and traded in my Hyundai Palisade for this AMAZING ride! The front cluster with navigation is by far better then Mercedes. KIA is #3 for reliability through JD Powers with Toyota falling behind. Lexus # 1 but we all know Japanese technology is ancient and Porsche #2. Korean vehicles are ahead of everyone in technology and safety.

Which is the best one to have? .. I’m asking because I’m handicapped with a power wheelchair 😬😅

Love my AWD 2011 XLE. Will tow a small boat, carry 7 people/luggage, handle most New England weather, will do 0-60 in less than 7.5 and is really comfortable. Gauge cluster is weird, navigation sucks and temperature controls are really awkward. Lots of storage and cool places to put things. Weirdest option is the console pulls out in back. Presumably to service the second row if they are back? Coolest options are the second row foot rests that I never get to use and the easy storage of the third row seats. Lots of power and smooth shifting. Second row is kind of clumsy to use. Don’t be scared of buying these with high miles.

The Carnival is quite tempting, Kia has narrowed the gap, but it's hard to overlook Toyota's strengths, my biggest dislike in the Sienna is the CVT

@lightsfansofthewest481

7 ай бұрын

If you're worried about the reliability of the CVT, don't be. It's a different design that's not found in conventional CVTs. They've proven to be absolutely bulletproof.

Kia carnival Is totally awesome I'm buying that and it's gonna be blue

I think Toyota Sienna is the best SUV ever. Of course, Kia Carnival is a good one, too. But in terms of the ride and endurance, Sienna deserves to win. I want to buy this one day.

@sangheon100

2 жыл бұрын

All in all, u only buy japanese products.

Had my eye on KIA since last year when they first announce the Carnival, but will wait until one more year as this is first Gen of this model and they already has a huge recall over gas smell and possible causing fire. I think it is better to buy 2nd or 3rd year of certain model when they resolve issues found on 1st gen.

@MarkM58

2 жыл бұрын

That recall was handled on the first shipment to the US as a port hold. They couldn't be sold until the repairs were completed. All have been fixed. All subsequent shipments were fixed before shipping to the US

@VincentsfamilyCali

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkM58 thank you, KIA takes care of this fast.. good for them

@dragonlips2005

2 жыл бұрын

@@VincentsfamilyCali Right! It's the manufacturers that DON'T recall their vehicles that you have to be worried about. They're out there.

Yass the carnival win and i love the carnival

Kia big time

I have a 2022 Sienna on order (the only way to buy a new one right now) and it was the AWD and Hybrid power train that took me in that direction. I'm sick and tired of all the SUVs, but having owed a Subaru and an MDX years ago I've been wanting to get back to an AWD vehicle for a while. Since, I don't have kids (What? but I do Chauffeur my parents around to various Dr. appointments and that's why I had the Odyssey) I was not interested in a rear entertainment system, but I loved Toyota's work around for the single ceiling mounted screen, a digital rear view mirror hooked to the camera system. Sienna does have the 360 degree view, but only on the top line model which, to me makes no sense, with all their safety feature the 360 degree view should also be standard. Looking forward to my new arrival soon.

Dont forget about the siennas 150k/10yr warranty on the hybrid battery which is huge! I prefer the carnival but I’ll probably buy the sienna for AWD, MPG and the hybrid battery warranty. Both awesome vans

@coolyjavon591

3 жыл бұрын

AWD is coming soon for carnival