Fallout TV Show: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
The verdict is in for this RadReview on the new Fallout TV show, and it seems to have something for everyone. See if you agree with my takes on the show!
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Timestamps:
Intro- 00:00
The Good- 02:03
The Bad- 10:50
The Ugly- 15:28
Short Thoughts- 27:12
Outro- 27:54
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Please all I want is a door opening to a wall that has “fuck you” spray painted on it, it would be so funny
@generalmcterror2718
Ай бұрын
Omg that would be the funniest scene of the show. Having Lucy be all hey I found the way all cheery and when the door opens have her just absolutely disappointed. Meanwhile Coop says some off handed comment like that was unnecessarily rude of someone. Or something to that effect.
@lefaplefaplefap
Ай бұрын
Right before a huge raider ambush. It would go crazy
@brunoactis1104
Ай бұрын
So the only thing you want from season 2 is a single laugh at fanservice? Do you own funkpops by any chance?
@Vicus_of_Utrecht
Ай бұрын
@@brunoactis1104your anencephaly is showing
@Jerthy100
Ай бұрын
I still think that is the best joke from the games XD It's just perfect.
10:20 This moment where The Ghoul kills Roger, it is actually super merciful and good. Cooper knew Roger was gone, and was going to become Feral. That's no life. He wanted him to have a good wholesome memory and a semblance of lucidity before he went out.
@RicPendragon
Ай бұрын
Exactly how I saw it, died with a smile on his face, more than most Wastelanders can hope for. Was a nice mercy, while also teaching Lucy what has to be done when a Feral is too far gone
@nicholashaynes660
Ай бұрын
Yeah it felt like one of those moments that rly humanize the ghoul. If he was only hungry he would’ve just killed Roger and sliced him up, but no, he waits until Roger is distracted. His last thoughts of his mom’s apple pie was really touching
@solaireofastora5999
Ай бұрын
And proceeds to take his stuff afterwards like every Fallout player. "Maybe God have mercy on your so- HOLY SHIT 16 CAPS!"
@obsidianv3
Ай бұрын
Reminded me of the ending in the book of mice and men
@Mobysimo
Ай бұрын
@@obsidianv3 Think of the RadBunnies, Roger
On the point of the "anti-feral" drug for the ghouls, I feel like it could be a placebo. There could be some pre-war drug that gives the sensation to ghouls that they feel better, but there are several examples of ghouls from pre-war times that did keep their sanity for the 200+ years, and had no indication they took such a substance.
@YazzPott
Ай бұрын
I could see this being true. However, Roger outright states they have been taking this for a loooooong time. “That is a lot of phials.” Curious to see how they explain it, and if it actually has been in use for, possibly, centuries, how they justify it never being mentioned or shown.
@Pali729
Ай бұрын
There's plenty of medications where once you start, you're never supposed to stop, such as many heart medications. It would be perfectly on brand for Fallout that someone post-war created an anti-feral drug that does in fact stop feralization, but withdrawals from the drug actually accelerate the descent into feral status, making the user completely dependent on the product forever. Big Pharma, Big Pharma never changes.
@AesirUnlimited
Ай бұрын
It’s a retcon. Ghouls haven’t shown any indication of needing this drug before because they haven’t needed it before. Not saying it like it’s a good or bad thing or anything. But it’s certainly a retcon.
@WidowMakerOU812
Ай бұрын
Has it been confirmed at all thats what the drug does? I'd be curious if it's some other type of Chem that he's addicted too. Ghouls have been known to be addicted to chems
@kaz5807
Ай бұрын
@@AesirUnlimited Or it could be used by different ghouls depending on how they were ghoulified. This drug could be used by ones who are still irradiated and always pose of risk of ferality.
i feel like the moment where maximus flies off like a cartoon character is almost like a wild wasteland moment, its so dumb and over the top
@justnoob8141
Ай бұрын
So… who have Wild Wasteland? Cooper or Maximus?
@UpsetFather
Ай бұрын
@@justnoob8141 Gotta be Coop imo
@ijneb1248
28 күн бұрын
@@justnoob8141definitely thaddeus my man was out here regrowing limbs
@thekiwibird37
27 күн бұрын
@@justnoob8141 Us, clearly. Either that or we were allowed to collectively share in on Coop's drug-fueled lunacy.
@DanteVerde-pt9zc
27 күн бұрын
@@justnoob8141 It's Cooper... Maximus has the Idiot Savant
One little thing I liked was how the Hollywood sign lit up at the end and you see it’s sponsored by Nuka Cola totally fits the fallout universe
@jakel.1724
15 күн бұрын
i liked that too. i chuckled
It's good that they gave 1 INT builds representation with Maximus.
@sonicwave779
23 күн бұрын
Some of his lines straight up sounded like 1 INT speech options.
@Jackothy
23 күн бұрын
He also has 1 charisma. Lucy straight up asked him if he wanted to fuck and he fumbled it
@periwinkle2486
22 күн бұрын
@@sonicwave779 "You wanna make my cock explode now?"
@brendan9868
21 күн бұрын
1 INT, 1 Speech, 10 endurance, 10 Luck Interesting build for sure
@jpisback
18 күн бұрын
Nahhhh he was a Little higher than One. He was smarter than Thaddeus imo, and Definitely smarter than the dude with the Water still that he kept putting sand in and wondered why he got no water 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine Hank gets to the 38 and it's just Yes Man left behind by the Courier. Yes Man and Robert have a dynamic of Yesman using House as a toy lol
@Man77772
Ай бұрын
Imagine if Hank was the courier
@gwenderp6229
Ай бұрын
I have a feeling we will have a scene much like described in the video where House is alive on life support but not connected to the machines. I can imagine the scene now "JESUS FUCK HANK IVE BEEN LOCKED IN HERE FOR YEARS YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW BORED IVE BEEN" then he just snaps back to being all calm and normal.
I think the secret man in the window during the Vault Tech conference was G Man. Prepare for unforseen consequences.
@Vicus_of_Utrecht
Ай бұрын
🤔
@corypowercat7277
Ай бұрын
But his eyes weren't glowing.
@Man77772
Ай бұрын
You mean the guy from skibidi toilet ?
@kikosawa
Ай бұрын
@@Man77772in the flesh
@ijneb1248
28 күн бұрын
Nah it was easy pete pulling the strings behind everything
My theory about the bombs is that Vault Tec wanted to drop the bombs, but china sent them 20 hours earlier, which is why Howard wasn't in vault, why Mr House's calculations were off by 20 hours. The Yangtze Captain says he launched the bombs in boston, so China definitely struck, and according to the Enclave and the Switchboard, China launched first
@ThisIsMyYouTubeAccount1
Ай бұрын
And wouldn't that be a convenient hand-wave for the writers?
@kuroshi7766
Ай бұрын
@@ThisIsMyKZreadAccount1 I mean, it'd make sense. If some cowboy actor could spy on that meeting, then that goes without saying that China could and probably did have some form of spying done on what is frankly one of the biggest closed door meetings in the entirety of America. So they likely had foreknowledge that Vault-Tec was about to drop a nuke and went, 'Well, might as well strike first'. The only thing unbelievable about it all is the fact that Coop managed to do that in the first place.
@Ricardo_Rick
29 күн бұрын
When the boston bomb hit the war had already started tho, remember, before the fallout 4 mc got to the vault (the moment where the bomb hit boston) there was already other detonations detected in the us
@swissarmyknight4306
24 күн бұрын
@@ThisIsMyKZreadAccount1 Not a handwave. There was a persistent risk in the cold war of one side suspecting a first-strike attempt and launching a pre-emptive first strike of their own, and submarines using MRBMs could be used as a first strike. We don't know that Vault Tec actually did launch first, only that they planned to either do it or provoke it. Such a plan leaking could very well have provoked the PRC to launch first. Hell, Vault Tec could have executed their plan to create a nuclear war by leaking their plan to create a nuclear war and letting politics do the rest. You're jumping to conclusions.
@Mrbongos
20 күн бұрын
I have a feeling that in Season 2 it will show that Vault-Tec didn't want to truly drop the bombs, dropping the bombs hurts their bottom line. The fear of the bombs is their bread and butter. Maybe when all of the vaults were deemed ready? Yeah, sure - because then it's the next step of all of their experiments. But not all of the vaults were ready on 10/23/77. They could only get them ready with a continued river of money and keeping people terrified of the nukes were the lynch pin. I think VT 'dropping a bomb' would be perhaps to manipulate some minor country to test a nuke to show they were now part of the nuclear stage, or perhaps stage an accident in a non-US test facility. Something that would breed fear, which was their primary product.
The main female actors was so good I had no idea she wasn't American. Her American accent is on point and her behavior is so perfectly the 1950's style the vault dwellers would have.
@jango7889
Ай бұрын
Radking isn't American either
@jacobrjager
Ай бұрын
Is Radking in the show?
@afungai1649
24 күн бұрын
@@jacobrjager I wish
@jacobrjager
24 күн бұрын
@@afungai1649 LOL! Case closed then right? 😉
21:09 The issue with this is that Mr. House claims the bacteria will inevitability end his life even if he was slightly exposed. Also, since the House ending is reliant on the NCR being stable enough to provide caps, if the NCR fell, perhaps Vegas fell aswell. Along with the Tunnelers moving to the Mojave.
@Meowmeow0506
Ай бұрын
He also said cats were extinct. Point is, people can be wrong. I do not think it's a reach to assume that Mr. House was in a delirious panic after 200 years of what was essentially isolation and having his whole wold crashing down. I think he was just afraid. I do not think it'd be a retcon or anything to assume he didn't die and was just locked out of his network
@ArthropodJay
Ай бұрын
@@Meowmeow0506 Honestly cats not being extinct is the only retcon im glad fallout 4 did because i like cats
@PresAlexWhit
Ай бұрын
@@Meowmeow0506 Cats didn't exist in the Fallout Universe any capacity until Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 (two games released after Fallout: New Vegas) and is thus a retcon. I like the existence of cats in the Fallout Universe so I'm glad they added them, however at the time he said it, he was 100% correct. Not only that, but cats only appear on the East Coast, so as an immobile individual who only woke up from a coma relatively recently, you can give him some leeway. Also, cats aren't directly relevant to his immediate survival so House simply stating something one off as a side comment and him saying something that only he would know about are two completely different things. Just be honest, it's completely foolish to think he's incorrect in this situation. He could have survived for hours, week, months, but 15 years is an inane prospect, especially with the chaos and destruction surrounding Vegas.
@Pali729
Ай бұрын
Just throwing it out there, what if House had already downloaded a copy of his consciousness to a computer (seems within the scope of Fallout tech) and just played dead till the Courier left. House has enough ego to have contingencies to make sure he never truly died, he fundamentally believes he's the only hope for humanity.
@PresAlexWhit
Ай бұрын
@@Pali729 Eh maybe but why wouldn't he have already and also, does he simply play dead throughout the Yes Man ending too?
Imagine if radking was called freakyking
@schlop1771
Ай бұрын
and instead of talking about fallout lore he ate deathclaw ass and sucked their toes
@KuroToaster2199
Ай бұрын
Groovy
@wooba4227
Ай бұрын
And instead of making fallout lore videos he ate arse and sucked toes
@gregorycomey
Ай бұрын
radking if he sucked toes and ate ass instead of talk about Fallout lore
@grigglegroggle
Ай бұрын
Seek Atom
I think Chet is going to have a redemption arc in Vault 32.
@Lobsterwithinternet
Ай бұрын
I love that brave little manlet.
@spagelsmegal
Ай бұрын
@@Lobsterwithinternet He’s our guy
@gameinguy
Ай бұрын
Maybe he'll be the one to rescue Norm somehow
@josephpeters7076
Ай бұрын
@@Lobsterwithinternet Am I missing something? Isn’t Chet like 6ft 3?
@Lobsterwithinternet
Ай бұрын
@@josephpeters7076 That's the joke.
They got to Shady Sands by way of...fast travel.
Regarding the reveal of New Vegas my folks (both unfamiliar with the game) thought the final shot showed Seattle. Which was really funny to me.
@corypowercat7277
Ай бұрын
I saw a lot of that to.
@kikosawa
Ай бұрын
The Pacific ocean has dried out entirely or something?
@Ricardo_Rick
29 күн бұрын
@@kikosawa i mean, could be considering there is so much desert now
@dangela3039
25 күн бұрын
@@Ricardo_Rick no
Cooper Howard is a really cool character. It feels like he’s a mix of John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart. I also like how he’s the origin of the Vault Tech mascot 😁👍🏼. In my opinion, the best parts of the show are the pre-war flashbacks. Cooper discovering Vault Techs true intentions is a legendary scene. Awesome video man!
@kyleellis1825
Ай бұрын
I just felt they happened to soon and thse shuld have been S2 things. I wanted more wasteland in my season 1 of fallout.
@ThisOnesCrabby
Ай бұрын
Absolutely I loved Walton gogons in most everything he's in but he was perfect in this
My biggest issue with the show was the handling of the NCR. I don't inherently have a problem with them being reduced in power, but the way it is handled feels unnecessarily abrupt and vague for a group that has been built up for so long. While I'm aware Todd said that it's unlikely this is the last we'll see of the NCR, I don't think the show should have necessitated such a statement from him in the first place. As far as I noticed Maldaver's group (who don't even feel like they needed to be the NCR) is referred to as the NCR point blank, not as a splinter group or a smaller detachment, their base is labeled as the NCR headquarters, and no other formal presence of the NCR is shown or really alluded to at all. I'm hopeful they'll reintroduce the NCR as a significant faction once again in due time, however their handling in the first season is disappointing for me nonetheless, especially when it seems they have no problem ever expanding the Brotherhood's power.
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
Ай бұрын
The story of 1/2 and New Vegas is a perfect trilogy showcasing the rise and fall of the NCR. Even by New Vegas the NCR was on the ropes. We saw them start in 1, rise to power in 2, and saw their decline in New Vegas. I think that’s a good story that is just fine as is. No need to keep forcing the NCR into everything.
@cardboardanalysis7283
Ай бұрын
You realize that they built up the Brotherhood to be the big Villians of the tv show right?
@Plight_
Ай бұрын
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116no, They weren't declining. They were "declining" in the Mojave and In the Mojave alone Odd you say that given what Bethesda does with the brotherhood of steel. Getting the spotlight in every Bethesda game. They literally traveled across the United States twice now. Edit (three times mb, forgot 76)
@barbell4492
Ай бұрын
@Plight_ Exactly. This is what annoys me so much about Bethesdas writing. NOOOO YOU MUST HAVE EVERY PART OF THE WORLD LIVE AS IF THE BOMBS DROPPED A FEW YEARS AGO HOW DARE YOU START TO REBUILD Saying that the NCR is on the Decline in New Vegas is like saying America was on the Decline during Vietnam because the troops there may have been having trouble there
@insert_apathetic6159
Ай бұрын
@@Plight_just letting you know that I hate the way they nuked shady, however after Tandis death , there is no possible way to deny that the NCR would decline, especially with Kimball who probably died in Shady.
"YOU SHALL BE LEAVING NOW GOOSY, WITH THIS 2 WEEKs OF SUPPLIES "😂
The wrist boosters aren’t necessarily a retcon. Could just be a variant replacing the more cumbersome jetpack. This would still allow them to re-add it if they do need a super-heavy boi to fly into battle with a mini gun.
@DC-it2ng
10 күн бұрын
I always interpreted it as more of a "last ditch effort" to escape a losing battle instead of something to be used in combat
Glory to atom. We're is tato lore
@wesleybutler1868
Ай бұрын
Fr. Are Tatos not a post war mutation? Why are the vault 33 dwellers farming post-war irradiated food species
@kotzpenner
Ай бұрын
@@wesleybutler1868 this is like Jet being pre war
@akuokami1677
Ай бұрын
Pretty sure the wastland guide has it, don't remember what page off the top of my head
@AshtonDoyle3
Ай бұрын
Thats like asking for pheasant roast lore, you need to chill
@skellymen2395
Ай бұрын
@@wesleybutler1868 well they could have gotten the tatos from outside the vault
The faceplate thing: As a practical matter, having a removable/openable faceplate on a suit of armour makes perfect sense and has real world historical precedence. In the later medieval period as suits of armour started to be made out of more rigid material (what most people think of when they think of a knight ... plates of metal head to toe) many/most helmets were constructed so that parts of the face protection could be temporarily removed by the wearer so that they could get a better view of things, or have a quick drink/food, get a breath of fresh air, or issue orders/have a conversation, when not directly involved in a fight. Sure, the power armour allows all of those things while fully encased, but as humans we all feel less comfortable and more constricted when our faces are fully covered. Think about all the cry babies that couldn't stand the thought of wearing a cloth mask for short periods of time during the Covid pandemic and would have full blown temper tantrums any time they were asked to do so. So while I get that traditionally Fallout power armour suits didn't have opening faceplates, it is both a harmless change and makes sense from an in universe persepective and a TV production perspective (You sometimes need to show the actor emoting while interacting with another actor, which would be very difficult if you couldn't just convieniently flip open the visor). I've been with Fallout since 1997. On the whole I thought the show was pretty good. There was the odd bit that didn't fit previously established lore, but I didn't much care. The look, feel and tone was very Fallout, to the point that it almost felt like watching a playthrough at times. It wasn't perfect, but it was more than good enough, and I hope season 2 keeps it up. Good video, by the way. :)
I’m glad it’s canon that Vault Tec did the Mouse Utopia experiment.
@Lobsterwithinternet
Ай бұрын
I'm also glad they made Vault-Tec a more powerful group than the Enclave. /s 🦞🙄
@JohnDoe-rh8tp
Ай бұрын
@@Lobsterwithinternet I mean shit they worked for the government and outright went over them I mean it’s possible they started the war
@ijneb1248
28 күн бұрын
idk i really like the idea that vault-tec even mamaged to outplay the shadow government, it makes them so much more sinister as opposed to just another tool used by the enclave
@Lobsterwithinternet
17 күн бұрын
@@baneofbanes No, it isn’t in the show.
@Samm815
15 күн бұрын
@@Lobsterwithinternet Then who was the man in the Shadows?
One thing that bothers me is in the last episode where the Ghoul talks about the flaw in the power armor chestplate welds, but why didnt he know that and just kill maximus in their first encounter?
@markcarpenter6020
Ай бұрын
That's actually addressed in a throw away line. That armor has a different lining from normal.
@justaliteralgoat5639
Ай бұрын
The lining could be one explanation, or he was just toying with him since he could tell Maximus had no experience in it
@CloudBlitzer
Ай бұрын
His armor has special lining. It was referenced multiple times
@justaliteralgoat5639
Ай бұрын
@@CloudBlitzer The lining wouldn't fix a major flaw, if that was the case then they would have definitely had it be standard issue
@TheTeremaster
Ай бұрын
Tempered lining + the ammo. Cooper was clearly loading specialised ammo into his revolver before the fight with the knights. It's likely he didn't have any of the special AP when he fought maximus because he was expecting raiders at best, so he was packing just those HE-like rounds. Whereas at the observatory he knew he'd be running into the brotherhood so packed the appropriate tools. It would track with the lore because the NCR canonically shredded the brotherhood with high power ballistic weapons.
People keep saying the tunnelers couldve destroyed the strip, but the tunnelers are adverse to light. I don't see the writers wanting to fight off tunnelers during the whole of next season. Everyone is already upset that they destroyed shady sands now if they destroyed every settlement in new Vegas too? That would be asking for hell
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
Ай бұрын
Light and loud noise. So the Strip would be quite literally the best place to survive the tunnelers.
@thomasleonardis711
Ай бұрын
Honestly. I’m a bit upset that The Cloud didn’t find its way to Vegas ala Fallout Dust mod. That was always a threat on the horizon regardless of who won the Mojave.
@bringurownvibe
Ай бұрын
people are too hard for Dust. A lot of the writing in it is honestly goofy af. It's a worst possible scenario post ending, its not the best thing to make good film or writing from
@doctorgrubious7725
Ай бұрын
Honestly I just interpreted that as "They're gonna sink New Vegas" because I'm an idiot
@thomasleonardis711
Ай бұрын
@@bringurownvibe I just think that a lot of New Vegas dlc had left these threats that would eventually reach the Mojave. I think it would be cool to see The Cloud had hit the Mojave followed by the tunnelers resulting in regions collapse. Then at least a Nuke in the region would make sense within existing lore.
Though if you just disconnect mr house he directly says that he won't last long due to germs as this has been the first time that his chamber was opened, exposing himself to the contaminated air. There is also a possibility that one of mr houses cut fates like joining the ncr after his bunker of securitrons was destroyed can be made canon.
Theres also the possibility that the Tunnelers destroyed Vegas. Ulysses said they would do so eventually. EDIT: Keep in mind folks. The Strip gets all of its power from Hoover Dam. If the Tunelers attack the Mojave, they could very well destroy Hoover Dam, cutting off power from Strip. Even if House canonicly wins the war, once Hoover Dam is destroyed, he doesnt have enough power in his generators to maintain the strip. The strip falls into into darkness, and Tunelers swoop in and kill everything, including the heavily armed Securitrons. They can burrow super quickly, have poisonous claws, and can tear through power armor and a deathclaw in seconds. Tuneler are more OP lore wise than people realize. Qoute from Ulysses to further clarify: "They'll start emerging throughout the Mojave in time, might be years. Probably less. They breed fast, hunt in groups, more than enough to bring down the strongest in the Mojave. Once they draw blood... Seen them tear apart deathclaws... Deathclaw might get some, but the rest will swarm it, tear it apart, like Denver hounds."
@paragonrobbie9270
Ай бұрын
I would hope that's the reason, but I don't trust the writers to know what Lonesome Road was let alone use any NV DLC story beats.
@GeneralsAlert
Ай бұрын
Then again, Ulysses likes to talk a lot.
@akuokami1677
Ай бұрын
Ulysses was just running his mouth he clearly spent too much time in the divide to be anywhere near a stable mind
@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv
Ай бұрын
@@akuokami1677you have very poor media literacy if you think that about Ulysses. The guy is smart and wise in many ways, the only thing he's unreasonable abt is his grudge against the courier but even with that he can be talked down from nuking the NCR. He knows exactly what he's talking about 90% of the time
@bjornolfactory9363
Ай бұрын
Either way, New Vegas is dead. And they will destroy what is left of it's lore. And I'll be there to laugh at all the shills when it happens.
my favorite line HAS to be "that is a very tiny drop in a very very large bucket of drugs"
The set design was insane, It felt like the show was pulled straight out of the games, even down to the small details like the yellow construction lights on the ground
The problem with the destruction of shady sands is that the NCR is basically a country made up of several cities, towns, and states. Along with 700,000 citizen. Just nuking the capital wouldn’t have ended the NCR. Another thing is I’m afraid that they will turn the New Vegas storyline in season 2 into a brotherhood of steel vs enclave conflict, because I can see Todd Howard doing that for the TV show, because no one outside the video game know who the enclave is. I think the first season is great except for the lore.
@cheekyrabbit
21 күн бұрын
But even in New Vegas, the soldiers biggest complaints were how thinly stretched they were for manpower, supplies/resources, you name it. It seemed like the NCR was wounded then. Everybody is like, "It's too big to fail". Look at Rome, look at the US right now. Failure happens, and it is usually complicated and multifaceted.
@goodtimejoe1325
3 күн бұрын
@@cheekyrabbit Well they should have depicted it as such then. Just nuking a single city and telling us they called it quits doesn't make the faction justice
@thebighurt2495
2 күн бұрын
@@cheekyrabbit The Mojave theater wasn't stripped for resources because the NCR was. Chief Hanlon said the bulk of the Rangers were either back home or in Baja. The Mojave's line of supply was cut in half with the loss of the Divide. The local NCR Command was changed from Hanlon and Colonel Hsu to a political appointee buddy of the President's (Gen. Oliver). It was also said that the Brahmin Barons were essentially buying up the senate, which could imply imminent factionalization. The NCR wasn't broke. The Mojave territories were stuck under incompetent command, trying to funnel their logistics through a huge bottleneck and reeling from the casualties of Operation Sunburst and the 1st Battle of Hoover Dam. Between the Legion putting it's back into the fight, the Crimson Caravan and Van Graffs further screwing up local logistics and shipping and the incredibly poor timing of the Fiends on the rise and Vault 34 leaking rads into the water table, the Mojave NCR were just at their worst possible state at the exact moment The Courier showed up.
I've somewhat softened from my initial reaction to the series. But I guess my overall feelings depend on how the NCR is addressed in season 2.
@YazzPott
Ай бұрын
This is exactly my feelings as well. Any problem I have has the chance to be fully okay if season 2 is done correctly, only time will tell
@eeebee6166
Ай бұрын
Its reactions like this and lead to garbage shows like this where woke idiots take good IPs, cram their politics in, and then sheep like you just accept it
@aaronlaughter6471
28 күн бұрын
Totally reasonable. Im hoping we see a Helios 1 type battle, the full might of both the NCR and Brotherhood going at it..... while Legion does its thing.
One thing i hope they clear up or at least mention in the 2nd session is how the master did not break in the 3 vaults in la
@spagelsmegal
Ай бұрын
Finally someone else thinking about the first game when comparing the show
@YazzPott
Ай бұрын
Possibly couldn’t find it? He wasn’t able to find 13 until the Vault Dwellers existence gave it away.
@generalmcterror2718
Ай бұрын
It’s really easy to assume he missed them, couldn’t get in them, or couldn’t get to them amongst many other possible scenarios as to why he couldn’t get to them.
@TheToodinho
Ай бұрын
They wont because its not important
@citizenoftheworld2694
Ай бұрын
@@YazzPott vault 13 was hidden in a cave and far to the north of the masters base of operations and with a mountain range between it and the mariposa military base. It makes sense that it would be hard to find. The masters base is a vault inside Los Angeles. I simply don’t believe that their where three more vaults in LA that the Unity somehow never noticed. Three vaults filled with exactly what he was looking for. Also their was already a vault In LA in the first game (it doesn’t have a number) completely unrelated to this trio of connected vaults.
The prop department killed it
@eeebee6166
Ай бұрын
Yea literally, the props were ass. The power armor looked like some kids amateur cosplay and they tried to make the voice sound like a 40k space marine 😂😂😂
@jordonturner9559
Ай бұрын
@@eeebee6166 the armor looked great. Straight out of fallout 4. Could you have made a better suit? And the voice thing is a little off but I like it. It's perhaps a little too deep for my taste. But literally everything was pretty much a 1 to 1 recreation of things seen in the games.
@eeebee6166
Ай бұрын
@@jordonturner9559 The armor looked like it was made out of plastic and the action in the armor looked even worse lol. "Could you have made a better suit" Yea if I had Amazon's resources I could. But I didn't make this show so it's not my problem. So by "1 to 1 recreation" are you talking about the power armor doing voice changes to sound like a WH 40k space marine? The arm jets that made them fly around like they're on a Saturday morning cartoon? The "ghoul medicine" that looked like mountain dew piss and magically keeps them from going feral? Or was the the woman with the mustache that the writers wrote into the show solely to have a tranny to use "they" pronouns? Yea, so much 1 to 1. Shady Sands being in the wrong place, power armor face plates lifting up, the BOS having basically an American flag with their own logo even though they literally seceded from the US government upon discovering the FEV experiments, vaults being literally connected together, the power armor helmets wobbling all over like a bobblehead. That's just off the top of my head. Clearly you didn't watch the show or play the games, did you Amazon bot? 🤣
@eeebee6166
Ай бұрын
@@jordonturner9559 Well I've replied twice and magically my comments aren't appearing. Basically i pointed out all the reasons you're wrong, so i'm not surprised. It's forbidden to complain about this show on youtube because they're inherently anti-factual lol
@jordonturner9559
Ай бұрын
@@eeebee6166 sounds like lies and bs. If you can't explain your reasoning for the props being bad that's not KZreads fault.
it would be absolutely hilarious if the canonical ending for new vegas is that the courier died in his grave
@eriottomakurashi
24 күн бұрын
The dream theory!
That final episode with Lucy’s father in power armor, I just couldn’t not see the Five Nights at Freddy’s movie Climax.
@DrFeelgood1127
Ай бұрын
Yes, I thought the same thing
@drekkful
Ай бұрын
Spoilers! 😂
Amazon likely removed the "China launched first" option because leaving it in would negatively impact their ability to work in China.
For me the ugly of this show is how they basically ignored fallout 1s locations by having the vaults in LA
@generalmcterror2718
Ай бұрын
Eh to be fair it’s not far fetched the Master and his army could have missed them or couldn’t get in or get to them to begin with. Lots of possibilities there
@TheToodinho
Ай бұрын
You mean like fallout 1 misplclaces bakersfield/vault 12 on the map?
@Pali729
Ай бұрын
I dont see a way around it while also making people happy with the West Coast thing. Fallout 2 covers the breadth of California, there's not really a place to put it. Vault 31-33 is a special case for Vault-Tech, so it's entirely plausible it was kept off any maps or materials that would normally lead people to the location of vaults.
@tree7677
Ай бұрын
@@Pali729A better idea would to have just written the show in a way that doesn’t conflict with a 20+ year old established franchise. We shouldn’t have to justify things like these or have conversations about potential lore breaking changes, the people in charge of a multi million dollar project should take care not to mess with lore, whether Godd Howard approved it or not
@Pali729
Ай бұрын
@@tree7677 there was never any making everyone happy. If they didn't put it on the West Coast, there'd be even more whining and moaning. It's not changing the lore to say the Master didn't get EVERY vault in California, and as the show clearly demonstrates, those vaults largely stayed closed and completely isolated, so why would anyone in the first 2 games be talking about them?
Man, the Fallout series has the chance to do the funniest fucking thing imaginable, and make Todd Howard the real big bad behind the entirety of Fallout.
@JGCO115
2 күн бұрын
>Todd Howard with Mustache shows up on the Lucky 38 Screen.
I think this is a really good adaptation. Obviously it's got issues, but I felt they were handled respectfully enough that they don't draw me out of the show. Walton Goggins def stole the show for me, and I am stoked that Cooper and Lucy are continuing to travel together at the end. It's fun enough that non-fans like my mom got into it, and the side story with the vault was just as interesting as the main stuff going on.
If Joshua Graham shows up. I lost..
@puddingpop6058
Ай бұрын
If they want a season 3 they'll do that season 2.
@TheDanishGuyReviews
26 күн бұрын
Auslander suche Joshua Graham?
@feliciaf8
Сағат бұрын
Same 🤣🤣😭 please at least mention him. If he actually showed up, i would throw my pc off lol
@feliciaf8
Сағат бұрын
Plot about taking out the remnants of the Legion and they(MCs) come across him? @@TheDanishGuyReviews
I personally didn’t like the retcon of ghouls needing drugs in order to not go feral. My head cannon is that the drug dealers around those parts has made a placebo drug to trick ghouls into buying it. This would track with how ghouls are treated through out all the games. Another issue I had was that gulpers were sorta implied that they were made by vault 4, but they are somehow in far harbor all the way across the continent in fallout 4. Those were my only issues lore wise. Narrative wise I really disliked how everyone was connected/ already knew each other. The twist of all the overseers being prewar was cool, but it was kinda dumb how cooper personally knew the overseer. Like the amount of coincidences in this show took me out of the immersion at time.
@tylerleach8796
Ай бұрын
Or that it’s just Radaway. That’s also a good one and it makes it more interesting.
@Plight_
Ай бұрын
I think the two gulpers aren't the same. Two people in two far away places just came up with the same name for two different creatures
@kyleellis1825
Ай бұрын
@@tylerleach8796 That's what I thought it was.
@Mobysimo
Ай бұрын
I think the Gulpers are just a case of two abominations with the same name The Gulpers in Far Harbor look more like giant salamanders and they live in trees. The one in the show looked like a messed up Axolotol
@YazzPott
Ай бұрын
Also annoying they called them “drugs” and not “chems” to begin with
She was there as a child, so she had the location marker. They must’ve fast traveled 😂
Thesedays RadKing is the only fan channel I like to listen for fair takes so this has been a long while coming
i still think they did Sinclair the dirtiest, dude had little to do with big mountain in the game but was their representative for some reason, and they made him old and fat even though sinclair was probably in his 40's at the latest and was likely of average build.
@ChazzBox
Ай бұрын
I imagine they changed Sinclair's appearance to help differentiate him from Mr.house.
@mitch8695
Ай бұрын
THIS!!! That tbh is my biggest issue with the show. Vault Tec droppin bombs first, cool thats been long theorized Shady Sands, aight I can read a flow chart But having Sinclair rep Big MT instead of Mobius / Klein (or whatever names they were going by pre-war) was no cap disappointing.
@trentdavis9809
Ай бұрын
He was an incel in the Sierra Madre dlc, so I think the look fits.
@TheToodinho
Ай бұрын
@@mitch8695 you mean scientists that have no place in a board room full of CEOs, yeah makes sense. I swear people are inventing the weirdest reasons to hate on the show.
@Pali729
Ай бұрын
It seemed Sinclair had a very close and longstanding business relationship with the Big MT. Its not entirely unlikely that the scientists at Big MT would ask this high profile businessman to represent their interests at this business meeting, that kind of thing happens in real life.
Best thing about it by far was the music from the games. It never gets old listening to the Ink Spots and Ella Fitzgerald who is one of the greatest singers of all time.
@allhandsondik7803
Ай бұрын
Also made me realize how much we need some Cash on the radios.
@jjuzimackin8941
Ай бұрын
Yes Ella is too cold
@yoyobird8427
Ай бұрын
i.... couldnt stand the music... way overused... some would be good but it was my only real grip
@PalleRasmussen
Ай бұрын
I do miss the NV tracks though, with the cowboy feel.
@ExternalDialogue
Ай бұрын
The original score was fantastic too! I love how much it takes notes from the Fallout 1/2 OSTs, parts of the Ghoul's theme takes heavy inspiration from the track that plays in Necropolis and there is some influences from Metallic Monks in the Brotherhood Theme.
I dont like the implication that ghouls need that drug to keep frok going feral. It implies there was some type of anti feral meds made before the bombs dropped. Otherwise, how are any ghouls that turned right after the bombs dropped still sane?
@tylerleach8796
Ай бұрын
Or, you know…it’s Radaway? Why am I the only person who came to that conclusion?
@kyleellis1825
Ай бұрын
@@tylerleach8796 You have no idea how glad I was that you also came to it. I felt like a sane man in a crazy world.
@puddingpop6058
Ай бұрын
@tylerleach8796 we see the vault girl being given radaway. It's not the same stuff. Plus why would a ghoul need radaway? They love radiation.
@tylerleach8796
Ай бұрын
@@puddingpop6058 because too much radiation on a ghoul can turn them feral? What do you think makes a ghoul feral in the first place?
@puddingpop6058
Ай бұрын
@tylerleach8796 not true. We see sane glowing ones. Which have been exposed to alot of rads. If it is radaway that's stupid. But it's not because we see the girl being given radaway on a IV drip and the medicine the ghouls need is a inhalant.
Because of the hinged power armor helmet. I think this expansion is actually extremely logical. Not only from a cinematic point of view. If you just imagine this situation: A group of soldiers in full armor somewhere on a battlefield during a ceasefire. They have to eat something. Completely removing their helmets would be a huge risk if they were attacked at that moment. If they can only open part of their helmets, they would still be very well protected and could eat something quickly.
@jordonturner9559
Ай бұрын
It's also someone of a nod to medieval knights. Brother hood of steel has knights soo..
When you finish NV with yes man he literally says he’s going to shut down to incorporate code he found in House’s mainframe into his computational matrix. I get the feeling we’ll see a spilt personality Yes Man with House still existing in YM’s code fighting for control
@barbell4492
Ай бұрын
The devs have said hes just upgrading and not trying to be assertive or janky or whatever
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
Ай бұрын
That wouldn't make any sense. House was just connected to his network, not actually part of it. If anything other than the House ending ends up being what they go for, then he's dead, and there is absolutely nothing of him left there. And, as the other person said, the devs have confirmed that Yes Man really was just upgrading, nothing more.
I have to say, I agree completely with you in this video. About jet nozzles on power armour: they have it in Fallout 4, and I don't mean the jetpack. There is an upgrade for power armour legs that enhances the AoE when landing after leaping. I don't remember the name of the upgrade, but it suggests that the legs contain some kind of braking thrusters, which would help explain how power armour completely negates fall damage in the game. I personally think that it would have made more sense in the show to replace the full jetpack with the same kind of jets mounted at the feet, for exactly the reason you mentioned. Also, Chet is a perfect character. He has the classical movie hero look, clean, muscular and conventionally handsome, but he turns out to be a coward nearly to the point of uselessness. This also makes him the perfect contrast to Norm.
The forearm jets seem likely to be meant as stabilizing feature to help the back mounted ones, they’re just getting used in bits and pieces due to scarcity in the post war
@anonymousfigure4726
Ай бұрын
I get that, but the face on the helmet opening up is what kills it for me
@YazzPott
Ай бұрын
Thats true they could be stablisers, buuuuuut it launched him waaaay in the sky, more so than the back mounted ones have ever accomplished.
@justnoob8141
Ай бұрын
@@YazzPottwell, it could also double as slow fall
@TheTeremaster
Ай бұрын
@@anonymousfigure4726 I mean considering a brotherhood elder got killed because he took his helmet off, a faceplate isn't exactly an unwise modification
@aaronlaughter6471
28 күн бұрын
@@anonymousfigure4726 I disagree, the face plate reminds me of knight, its the jet arms I hate.
My biggest power armor nitpick is the fact that you cannot exit the suit without a power core. No manual eject method while inside the suit? Absolutely terrible design. Especially in the show as we even see Max inside while the power is out his visor still says backup power or whatever. Feels like they just added it to let the plot happen and I really hate lazy writing like that.
@ijneb1248
28 күн бұрын
This is pre-war American technology, the same kind of people that made power armor also designed hazmat suits that oxidize to the deadly chemical they were specifically built to combat
@dangela3039
25 күн бұрын
So you agree New Vegas exists? ;) @ijneb1248
@ijneb1248
23 күн бұрын
@@dangela3039 who doesnt?
@sl00tym4g3
20 күн бұрын
what if there is but Maximus hasn't read the manual
@snausages43
17 күн бұрын
My best explanation for that is Maximus simply didn’t know how to get out because he wasn’t formally trained to use it. Also fusion cores seem to last way longer in the show than in the games, so maybe they didn’t put an emergency escape because the cores are meant to last for years.
IMO the best aspect of the show is Lucy. She's a unicorn among donkeys in the moden plethora of "strong female leads"; a likeable character played by a likeable actress.
@Demogorgon47
Ай бұрын
She's also not an insufferable Mary Sue which is why she's awesome. She doesn't do everything instantly and perfectly every time like a Mary Sue would. She actually suffers and fails at things and has to grow and overcome adversity. Plus she just has this perky charm about her.
I find the idea of the NCR and Caesar's Legion being fragmented into different groups like the one Moldaver leads in the show following the Second Hoover Battle a much more likely outcome, especially since Talking with NPCs of both sides of the war in FNV you get the feeling that things aren't going so well. This is especially true for the legion since Caesar is dying and Lanius is seen as unfit to rule by other high ranking members leading to a possible mutiny, only season 2 will tell.
I’m not one of the ones who cares all that much about the face plate, but the issue I see is there was an old brotherhood elder who died because he took his helmet off to look around and a poison arrow grazed his neck and killed him. That sounds like solid evidence you could never face plate. Also it does look a little goofy.
@DikaWolf
Ай бұрын
The armors get modified every game with no explanation. There doesn't need to be a lore discrepancy for it, as the show happens 9 years after Fallout 4. The faceplate and hand jets can just be upgrades.
@richter6699
Ай бұрын
The dumbest thing by far is the scene where the Ghoul starts one shotting Brotherhood Knights because of an ancient defect in the CENTER MASS of the armor. That's not a lore issue, its a common sense issue.
@DikaWolf
Ай бұрын
@@richter6699 It was actually below the center mass on the lining bellow the chest plate. Maximus points directly at it on Titus's armor when he commented he had that area upgraded hence why the Ghoul couldn't affect his armor the same way. Well that and the Ghoul didn't have armor piercing rounds at the time, during his first encounter with Maximus (which by the way is lore accurate as armor piercing rounds do go through power armor in the games like it wasn't even there).
@jordonturner9559
Ай бұрын
I think the face plate thing is meant to be a nod towards medieval knight who often had helmets with plates that could lift up to show their actual face. And since the person wearing the power was a "knight" it might be a little nod to that. The one big issue I had a problem with was that the armor apparently has no way to release the user if they're fusion core is removed so they are Essentially doomed. This seems like a major Design flaw.
Don't forget what Ulysses said about the Tunnelers, "They'll start emerging throughout the Mojave in time, might be years. Probably less. They breed fast, hunt in groups, more than enough to bring down the strongest in the Mojave. Once they draw blood... Seen them tear apart deathclaws... Deathclaw might get some, but the rest will swarm it, tear it apart, like Denver hounds".
@ArthropodJay
Ай бұрын
Yeah and theres a deathclaw skull in the mojave we see
@corypowercat7277
Ай бұрын
That theory is weak and can be blown off quickly.
Jonathan Nolan (The Producer of the show) said specifically that he lost a significant chunk of his life to Fallout 3, so even though the show picked the more modern fallout aesthetic (which I do think is more cohesive), it's clear from what they showed in-show and from Nolan's words that they took big inspiration from the older games as well. And setting it on the west coast in order to also appeal to those classic fallout fans was a great way to go about it if I'm honest.
@giovannicervantes2053
10 күн бұрын
Also we gotta remember fo3 is a minor remake of the first 2 games by combining the water plot the mutants and the enclave
Fallout show suffers from "HBO Game of Thrones travel disease". And not only me, but my not-Fallout fan wife HATE oversized golf bag that BoS squires are forced to use.
@jordonturner9559
Ай бұрын
My guess is it's really meant for a guy in power armor to be holding but since most of the knights are kinda dicks they make the scribes carry it. The size could also be explained away because it looks like they'll be out on the field for a long time so they need lots of supplies to keep going.
@PobortzaPl
Ай бұрын
@jordonturner9559 that's a very nice headcanon you have. And it's somewhat logical. But it doesn't have sense in the show reality: if it got changed from an item carried by person in PA to item carried by standard human, then why there's no accommodation for it to be more easily carried by a standard human? Like two straps allowing for it to be carried as a backpack?
I’ve been waiting for this one
Titus was horribly done, there is no way that guy would ever get the rank of knight, let alone a squire.
@thegreatgoobert5847
Ай бұрын
Yeah I think he was a bit too pathetic, but it's not like the brotherhood is immune to corruption. But honestly it kinda makes sense if maxson is still running everything, that guy is a fucking idiot.
@falloutelderscrollsfan692
Ай бұрын
i feel like in the original games you see knights who are dicks. hell, even in fallout 4 there is Knight Rhys at the Cambridge Police station who only serves as a foil. Ig they made titus mean so we would be slightly less against maximus for siding against him
@TheToodinho
Ай бұрын
Yeah all brotherhood members are perfect ubermesch there couldnt be any cowards and fuck ups in their ranks, the brotherhood is just so perfect as the games have shows us
@user-nw1je1ur6t
Ай бұрын
Nah, hes the average BoS knight
@capindread2168
Ай бұрын
Or the fact that the ENTIRE show would not have happened because the geiger counter is ALWAYS on so they would have detected the radiation from the raiders instantly
Keep in mind the canonical ending to fallout 4 is that the brotherhood of steel or minutemen won because we see the prydwen in show if you zoom in on the shot
@kyleellis1825
Ай бұрын
That's just another airship. Not the prydwen.
@owenlaramore9622
Ай бұрын
@@kyleellis1825 it says Prydwen on it in the show if you pause and zoom in I think
@kyleellis1825
Ай бұрын
@@owenlaramore9622 That's weird because we already know they have multiple of them.
@owenlaramore9622
Ай бұрын
@@kyleellis1825 it is weird I feel like it wouldn't have been hard to change the name to caslewyn or whatever on the 3d model
@video-luver769
Ай бұрын
@@kyleellis1825 Eh, that could have been an oversight, but I think the more telling thing is that the old guy tells them that it was an order that came directly from the "Elder from the Commonwealth". Now, that's obviously a bit of a stealthy reference to Arthur Maxson, but it's vague enough that his death isn't directly refuted. But still, that does seem to imply either the BoS or Minutemen endings are at least soft canon now.
How can a yao guai kill a man inside a power armor and die from a 10mm shot to the head?
@mountainmanmike1014
Ай бұрын
Critical sneak
@trentr9762
Ай бұрын
Bethesda logic and terrible writing
@Unlexian
Ай бұрын
Tbf the guy didnt do himselves any favors running
@johnstewart2981
Ай бұрын
@@trentr9762how is a basic nitpick terrible writing lmao?
@tylerleach8796
Ай бұрын
Crits, man. You seen what a critical headshot can do?
I cant believe they made the fallout dust mod Canon Seriously from 19:00 to 21:37 is basically just describing the backstory from that mod, hell the post credits vegas looks like it came out from dust They made fallout dust canon
I want the GOOD independent ending to be canon where you selected to deal with all the factions and families properly. There is no excuse that a massive army of upgraded securitrons to have ANY issue holding off some wastelanders with 9mm pistols and sticks.
Crazy how they put their vault in Santa Monica pier a hop, skipping a jump away from the cathedral and the MASTER……
It just struck me, Maximus was fairly civil during his brief Vault Dweller stay because he grew up in the NCR. He wasn't necessarily used to *luxuries* per se, but he was to basic, functional civilization.
Have a good day rad king
As someone who also watched with a Non Fallout fan as well it was interesting to see what peaked my interest more than hers. She was into all of it and learning about the lore and world (She has since started a run on F3) But me who has played all but the OG games I was mostly interested in the Goul/Coopers storyline and definitely Vault 31-33 mystery. Something I don't understand is why have some random newcomer be the guy who blew up shady sands? We have a in game reason for it to be nuked with Lonesome Road.
@TheToodinho
Ай бұрын
Because the newcomer is part of the story of the show? Its like saying in NV "Who is the newcomer Ceaser guy and why he is such a threat to the NCR came out of nowhere"
@DC-it2ng
10 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure just the Long 15 was nuked after Lonesome Road if you choose to launch them at the NCR, but maybe I missed something
I see a lot of people complaining about the power armor face plate thing but havent seen a peep about the fact that maximus was trapped in his armor after his fusion core was stolen and the ONLY way he could get out was a manual release from the outside? This sounds like a serious and fatal design flaw. I think there should be some way for an operator to get out of the armor from the inside in the event of a problem like that or some kind of malfunction.
@TheTeremaster
Ай бұрын
Especially because that in itself is a massive retcon. It's very clearly stated that even the fusion core power armour can function without a core. Just to a much lesser extent.
@jordonturner9559
Ай бұрын
@@TheTeremaster it would make sense that they would have some sort of manual hydraulics for the user to operate without power. If the core is out of juice or in the event of an emp.. it would make sense for the user to not only have a way to get out of the armor by themselves but also be able to move the armor a few feet either to hide it before bailing or maybe help isn't too far and you could just walk the suit over.
I had an issue with the squires being adults. Squires have always been children, as far as I remember, throughout the games. 🤘🏼
@jordonturner9559
Ай бұрын
It could potentially fall down to different chapters handling rank differently. Instead of being an initiate its a squire. And well in medieval times a knight especially a well known knight would have a squire to either tend to them or to train them to become a knight. It's possible that with this chapter initiates turn Into scribes while squires are trained to eventually become knights. That's just my thoughts though the show doesn't suggest this at all.
Love the Vid, id love to see some theory videos about what's going on with the Brotherhood and the Enclave, as well id like to hear your take on the theory that the Brotherhood incorporated the remnants of the Legion following the death of Caesar.
@Rad_King
Ай бұрын
Bet! I have some plans for upcoming videos where I will look at some of these things :)
Great review! Great and detailed thoughts on the show.
Well, the problem with the date is that everyone is looking at the wrong blackboard. Yeah, in that flowchart, there is an arrow between 2277 and the bomb. On the main blackboard earlier, there's only three drawings, the last being the nuke, and above that the date is clearly 2277. So Todd retconned the show, practically.
The bad: no deathclaw! AAAARGH
maximus being an idiot savant is a big W in my book
@Fehn_Fennec
Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed his Story, he seemed well meaning. But extremely incompetent. His actor was also so great, he absolutely brought the character to life.
@commietearsdrinker
Ай бұрын
Is this how people are excusing his terrible character now? "He has the idiot savant perk"?
@FuteFranta
Ай бұрын
Seemed like a selfish rat not worth being an Initiate in the first place. But now I guess squires are adult slaves and outranks aspirants and initiates.
@Plight_
Ай бұрын
It's kinda annoying that he gets rewarded for everything at the end in my opinion
@kyleellis1825
Ай бұрын
@@Plight_ It's not a reward... He told his friend he wanted to leave and his friend gives him the spotlight so he can't escape the brotherhood ever.
if you first met Chief Hanlon he talk about lake mead and dry up water source in the west. he said "We neglected the dams or pumped all the water out a long time ago. Owens, Isabella, the San Luis. Drained the aquifers of everything they had" "Just a lot of mud and dust now. It's a different feeling, watching the sun come up over the water. Takes some getting used to." "Back west, you don't see too many of these. Lakes, I mean. Natural or man-made. Any kind, really." is the fall of Shady Sands is because dry up water source leading up to famine and they move their former capital to boneyard ??
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
Ай бұрын
It’s also because of the Brahman Barons gaining more and more political power in the NCR. Basically rich businessmen took power in the republic.
@wooba4227
Ай бұрын
I think the show also mentioned a famine in 2077 so that could be the case
@FuteFranta
Ай бұрын
Boneyard isn't existing either in the show. It's all ruins. And Filly.
Minus the few lore things people seem to be either up in arms about or mildly annoyed with, I honestly don't think we could've gotten much better for a Fallout show. Compared to most video game adaptations, this is pretty much right behind The Last of Us in terms of quality; and that had the massive benefit of being a 1-to-1 retelling of an already critically acclaimed story.
Seeing Lucy’s reaction to Shady Sands’ billboard and her holding the NCR flag, was a great character work from her. All this time she’s been preparing to save the world and humanity was already thriving to some degree.
Only thing i really hated was the kinda nonsense nuking of shady sands, it felt like one of those random things that people who have no idea how to write do in order to increase the stakes of the main story or something. Idk it just felt bad. Which is so weird because everything else was pretty well written.
@kyleellis1825
Ай бұрын
Unless we find out Vault 31 has a bunch of nukes, how did Hank nuke a city if he'd been in a vault the whole time?
@travisbishop782
Ай бұрын
I liked it because it gave some environmental storytelling, like what the games are known for.
@Captain-Jinn
Ай бұрын
@@kyleellis1825 I wouldn't be surprised if 31 had at least a few tricks up its sleeve considering it's effectively Vault Tec HQ at this point.
@kyleellis1825
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@@Captain-Jinn I feel like the BoS would have tracked down the source of a nuclear launch in the last 15 years if it was Vault 31 though. It just feels like a lot of the action set pieces got the set up rushed into not making as much sense as they could have with a couple more episodes to space things out.
I hope it was the Brotherhood or the Enclave who bombed Shady Sands, Enclave as a final fuck you, and the Brotherhood as a strategic strike. After all, when kid Maximus emerges from the fridge, he’s rescued almost immediately by a Knight. Why would the Knight have been there so close to the time the bombs fell, unless that little 50’s style fridge somehow had enough room for a kid and days, if not like a week, or supplies? He likely would have known when the strike was to happen. Lucy’s dad, being pre-war and heavily involved with vault tec (and thus the enclave or military) might have known where some bombs were, or the codes needed for them, and given it to either group
@Lobsterwithinternet
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The bigger question is how did he survive all the radiation when he left the fridge? Or even everyone who lives there.
@respondcommander9332
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@@Lobsterwithinternetold school fridges used to lined with lead, and lead has a really good property of slowing or flat out stopping radiation from breaching into a space
8:50 My mom has never played the game but we watched together n she basically immediately identified new Vegas. "Is that the strip?" He's in las Vegas?!??" Followed by "what the hell is that" (deathclaw)
was was the background ambiance used in the last few sections ?
Got it within a MINUTE of posting lol, blessed
It was really a mixed bag for me. It does what I was worried most about and doubles it: making West Coast Fallout match the East. I absolutely hate everything looking like it's been only 20 years since the war instead of 200+ years and the fact that the Enclave and Brotherhood are shoved into where they don't belong. Shady sands could be nuked, sure, but that doesnt excuse the complete lack of NCR control, citizens or military outside of the remnants we see at the end. It's like the writers and Bethesda are hellbent on never doing anything new without destroying what came before.
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
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The NCR was already collapsing in New Vegas. I swear NCR fan boys are wild. Y’all just can’t accept that the first 2 games and Vegas told us a complete story of this society. You don’t see Legion fanboys crying that Caesars legion didn’t last more than 1 game.
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
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In New Vegas you already know Shady Sands isn’t the capital. The politicians are all corrupt, and power lies in the hand of trade caravan companies. The NCR was already dead in New Vegas. Yet people like you seem to think that they’re a stable and powerful state…
@PalindroneV2
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@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 NCR was in no way a collapsing society by the time of NV. They're a highly functional society with industry and trade. Their hold on the Mojave is unstable but that is due to mismanagement of their forces. It's not even their only military campaign as they have an ongoing expansion south into Baja which appears to be going well.
@video-luver769
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@@PalindroneV2 Except NV literally doesn't back that up. It's clear that none of y'all actually paid attention to literally ANYTHING any of the NCR characters in NV actually said.
@paragonrobbie9270
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@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 It's not a matter of wanting to have the NCR stay alive, it's the matter of it being realistically fallen. The NCR was going downhill for sure in NV, their government was increasingly corrupt and losing power to the brahmin barons along with them stretching their military too thin across too much land to handle. This wouldn't leave California and its surrounding areas as barren as Shady Sands though. The reason Legion fans aren't mad is because there's no need to be when California wasn't established as Legion home territory. I'm pretty certain they'd be mad if we saw Arizona only having a single handful of Legion left though.
In the first episode the father at the birthday party says he was able to get him to do a kids party was because of alimony, we have to assume then that his wife left him and he lost his job. So he had some sort of custody over the girl and so the mother couldn’t control where they were when the bombs fell even if she knew.
I miss the comment reading section from your old videos, any thoughts on bringing that back?
there is an interview with Jonathan Nolan the Director of the series. in the interview he goes over how much he played fallout 3, and other very in depth aspects of gaming and the different ways it tells a story. so basically the lead actor as well as show runner have played at least 1 of the fallout games. also the Board says the fall of Shady Sands was 2077, not the bomb. the arrow pointing to the right kind of indicates the bomb happened AFTER 2077.
The T-60s flip up faceplate may more so be a reference to tanks rather than any kind of helmets. Mostly on historical tanks, the driver's hatch could be partially opened to improve visibility and ventilation in non combat situations. This being present on power armour feels perfectly in line with Fallout's aesthetic! It also makes a lot of sense, i ask you, without the benefit of having your armour pieces be able to clip into eachother, or magically have the helmet disappear with the press of a button like in the games, how easy would it actually be to take that helmet off? Yeah it'd probably be a huge pain and you may need to get out of the suit or have someone else take it off if you want it removed. Having a flip up faceplate just makes perfect sense.
@Lobsterwithinternet
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For a costume, yes. For a pressurized suit of armor, no. You got to keep in mind that ‘the more moving parts, the more points of failure there are’ which means that the faceplate (let's be honest, it's so we can easily see the actor’s faces) would be a bigger weak point than the chest piece ever was.
@ExternalDialogue
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@@Lobsterwithinternet Litteral tanks, tanks, have these, its not an issue for a suit like this. It being sealed doesn't matter either. Tanks have hatches and any tank made after the 50s are air sealed for protection against chemical and nuclear attacks like a suit of power armour would be. Also this is a completely stupid argument that its a weak spot when there was already a panel line where the faceplate is, and the power armour designs have plenty of seemingly useless or precariously placed joins, like the t-45 helmet being split across the middle and bolted together.
Great video! Really enjoyed your thoughts and think you have one of the most reasonable takes I’ve seen.
Love this. Been waiting for this video and as always u didn't disappoint 🍻
Still there's a "fall of Shady Sands" in 2277 which makes 0 sense. People in New Vegas don't even talk about it, hell, they talk as if Shady Sands still is a running city.
@EctocoolerEI
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This part was very poorly done. No one would be saying the fall of Shady Sands speaking about 2277 when it was literally nuked less than 10 years later. They would be talking about it being nuked.
@insert_apathetic6159
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Shady Sands is still a running city, the fall just means it’s in decline, it’s still an important city
@PalindroneV2
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@@insert_apathetic6159fall does not mean decline in any context for the fall of a city. This is either poor choice of words bt the directors or the intent is that the nuking was in 2277 and Todd had to do damage control after the fact. Even of it meant decline, why would it not be mentioned by NCR characters? Or even Caesar whom has reason to pile it on to the list of NCR faults?
@KS-PNW
Ай бұрын
It absolutely doesn't mean that the city was nuked in 2277. Think about how we talk about "the fall of Rome" it's a centuries long process. Something similar could be true here..
@justaliteralgoat5639
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@@PalindroneV2 The fall of Rome lasted over 60 years, so the fall of Shady Sands could have easily taken a few years
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@VanityOfEliCLee
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@octavianpopescu4776
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Not really. At no point does it say communism is good. It's not an either/or thing in real life anyway, nor is it so in Fallout, and there is a middle ground called social market economy, which is basically regulated capitalism. Regarding communism, in the McCarthy-ist atmosphere of Fallout, it's a term thrown around to shut down debate/opponents. Moldaver denies being a communist when Howard mentions it, but she's just tired of having to deny it over and over and over and over again. Only the Chinese are actual communists.
I'm still arguing that cold fusion is a dumb plot point to base an entire season on. Cold fusion already exists everywhere in Fallout. It's not a special or world changing tech at that point.
The Show had lots of Bad Writing. It did have a few good bits. But it was mostly cool for seeing fallout stuff brought to live action.
Not gonna lie. Just cause Tim Cain says it's good, doesnt validate that they missed a lot of "Fallout" beats. It's similar in the vain of 4 and 76 the soft reboot of the series. This is not a bad thing as it caters to a broader audience but it'd be disenginous to say "original creator like so this good" I haven't heard Brian Fargo sign off on it and I don't think anyone is waiting to hear his take. Because it's superseeded him at this point just like how it has Tim Cain.
I honestly did not like It, but If you enjoyed It I’m happy for you
It is absolutely possible vault tec dropped just a few bombs to kick things off, and let the countries blow their nuclear stockpile as a hasty M.A.D. response. They didn't need to supply every bomb, and the Yangtze could definitely still shoot their missiles in that scenario. Essentially, vault tec would just need to light the match.
“A power armor helmet is front and center on each game cover” -Shows ranger armor It’s a nitpick but you gotta admit it’s a little funny
Hey guys, fallout the TV show hater here. So I agree this is a good tv show. It's amazing to see the props like stimpacks, nuka cola, and the 10mm from fo1-fo2. The power armor was also very well constructed. There was a very obvious amount of love and respect for bethesda's fallout games. So why do I hate this series. Well, it constantly mishandled the lore, rewrote certain plot elements, and answered questions that I'd rather not have learned, i.e., how ghouls go feral. This post is already insanely long, so I'd suggest instead that you play the games, and I don't simply mean fo4 or fo76 broaden your horizon across the entire series. Also, for an additional recommendation, I'd tell you to watch the fan made fallout series.
@insert_apathetic6159
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I’ve got played all the games and I loved the show, I’m not upset that the NCR fell, I’m upset it fell in the way it did. I think they did a great job with the lore. I’m not sure what else to write all the complaints I see people make is basically just misunderstanding something so I don’t know. We are all entitled to our own opinion of course.
@ThisOnesCrabby
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@insert_apathetic6159 I know, but there are many inconsistencies in the fallout tv show, and I'd like the show to be soft cannon or not cannon as it really muddles the lore of the series as a whole. I really don't want to go over the mistakes as that'd take multiple paragraphs to explain every detail.
@KS-PNW
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I don't know that anything actually muddles the lore definitively, besides the shady sands location the rest of it could still fit within the game.
@insert_apathetic6159
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@@ThisOnesCrabby fair enough
The face mask is purely an actor vanity thing. Just like when actors took off their masks during Covid when it was inappropriate. Doesn't help that the silly voice modulator (retcon) made everyone sound the same. Can't wait to hear Lucy the first time she climbs into a suit!
@jordonturner9559
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It makes sense honestly. If you're in a dangerous area and want to keep your guard up but need to do something like eat or drink it's best to not take off the whole helmet to do this. It's also a nod to medieval knights whose armor also had face plate that could be lifted up for pretty much the same purposes I described. Someone else also stated that we as people do tend to get a little claustrophobic when fully encased like that so having a way to get some fresh air without removing the helmet would be nice. I'm honestly surprised more people aren't fussing over maximus having no way to get himself out of the armor when the core was removed. Sounds like a major Design flaw.
i watched the show by myself the first two nights it was out and then i rewatched it with my mom over a few weeks. she only questioned three things, what the hell did Lucy use to heal after she was stabbed, why did Maximus trade bottle caps for repair services, and what was Hank looking at in the ending. honestly if those are someone’s biggest questions about the show having not played the games then i’d say they did a pretty good job introducing people to the series. she’s definitely looking forward to season 2
In all seriousness though. I say this as someone who's played videogames since 93 and has NEVER wanted movie/TV adaptations of games. I loved the show, the acting, the plot, the cast, all of it. Looking forward to seeing what they've got cooking for season 2.