Because ballistic dmg over time makes total sense on a bladed melee weapon Bugthesda. 🤦‍♀

@tangy830

23 күн бұрын

It’s bleeding lol

@wintersteale8869

23 күн бұрын

@@tangy830 He explained the upgraded one is different and actually ballistic based.

@tangy830

23 күн бұрын

@@wintersteale8869Was just about to reply to correct myself lol. My mistake

@JayDabs420

23 күн бұрын

Definitely another bug 😂😂

@chris5942

23 күн бұрын

B never makes anything make sense.

The Head Hunter Scythe looks great with the Cryptid Hunter PA skin from last season. 😃

the damage jump on a kill, maybe the game is calculating an extra stack of adrenaline, and taking it back away if you are already at 6 stacks

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

that's a good theory

@pz7510

23 күн бұрын

yeah I think this is how it refreshes stack duration, it just applies a new stack which kills the older stack and you have two for the time it takes to kill the old stack

@paulbyrne6062

23 күн бұрын

@@AngryTurtle If it only happens with adrenaline equipped, I'd call it true, I'll try reproduce and test if I remember.

I just crafted one of these and took it for a spin with my Thorn body armor. What a BEAST!!!! My favorite weapon of this season, hands down. I just wish they would not place the blade right across the center of my view in first person.

@lucast7092

23 күн бұрын

Same, I feel like guns point way to the left in first person as well and it makes me feel insane

@sirdigbychickencaesar71

21 күн бұрын

The only real thing that can help that is to increase your FOV in setting. its a cheap dirty fix but I do the same with autoaxe as that thing makes it hard to see enemy's that are shorter then waist hight, ie dogs mole rats and so on.

@hallowzone4681

18 күн бұрын

@@sirdigbychickencaesar71 You should be increasing your FOV to about maximum regardless lol. It’s not a “cheap dirty fix”, it just provides more visibility

@sirdigbychickencaesar71

18 күн бұрын

@@hallowzone4681 yeah but too much POV is ugly looks like your in a time warp

human damage was so stupid, maybe at least do instigating or executioner instead of a mob type :( maybe executioner woulda been more in theme with the grim reaper style

@Justanobody8472

23 күн бұрын

Executioner would be nice so that the bleed can finish them off. Even if they "fix" the weapon it could work in a way that makes sense

@tommyq374

23 күн бұрын

Executioner is useless compared to aristocrats if you always have caps (I always do, therefore get the bonus the entire time not just when they are on low health)

@Binidj

23 күн бұрын

@@tommyq374 yes but _thematically_ Executioner would be better. Maybe not a god roll but thematically on point and not utterly pointless.

@moongoalie2410

23 күн бұрын

Ya, any one type damage really reduces the utility of the weapon. I guess it will be good in expeditions where you find more human enemies.

@joshuakim5240

23 күн бұрын

Either that or at least make it Cursed so that even with Assassin's, it's still getting a nice boost vs everything else.

Whats weird is i thought they used to distinguish between bleed and ballastic dot, it used to be if it was bleed damage it would have a little blood drop next to it with the per second rating and ballistic was the reticle symbol i thought.

@Silas-Inservio-Pax

20 күн бұрын

No thats poison damage, but very understandable misunderstanding!

@OriginCorey

20 күн бұрын

@@Silas-Inservio-Pax ahhhh i see

Apparently the HHS was the reason why the pickaxes would give legendary modules on scrap, thus being the reason as to why pickaxe were temporarily removed.

What a dumb stipulation. They seem to not be able to get out of there own way a lot of the time. They way over think damage on weapons for a game that’s 99.9 percent PVE.

@Rorschach1998

23 күн бұрын

Can't hurt the mutant's feefees 😂.

@dalama1161

23 күн бұрын

And at the same time they don't think enough about it. Like how pistols just absolutely blow for bringing to bosses or events because of where their main bonus damage perks are at in SPECIAL builds.

@williammoore1030

23 күн бұрын

@@dalama1161not sure they will ever make pistols a viable boss weapon. It would need a base damage of like 500, and crits of like 2500 to compete with the dps on a rail or fixer. I crit every other shot and as low health clear over 1k per crit and those happen multiple times per second. Shotguns and pistols and non auto rifles and honestly most other weapons can’t compete with that right now.

@user-zp8kj2cl9g

23 күн бұрын

Try hards trying to feel somewhat "competent"in their uneventful, boring lifes.

@williammoore1030

23 күн бұрын

@@user-zp8kj2cl9g nothing in this game requires trying hard. And I’m sure you’re super busy doing interesting things with enough time to post unprovoked rude comments on KZread.

I thought you cant drop items with the Atom symbol

@EvoTorrance

23 күн бұрын

Correct. Apparently the weapon also cannot be turned in to a Legendary Machine for scrip. 🙁

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

you're right, so fresh vault dwellers will need to craft it themselves 😐

@Icecube88

23 күн бұрын

can you still build atom symbol stuff in someone else's camp?

@bluexatruch

23 күн бұрын

@@Icecube88yeah but it makes no difference the location where you build it (why would it?)

@lunarhexagon8108

23 күн бұрын

​@@Icecube88 as long you learn plans, you can craft any item in any proper workbench, including ones randomly in world or in 'crafting hubs'

I've always thought the pickaxe should have an anti-armor effect until you mod it to an ax blade ("sharp"). It would be funny if that's actually what's happening. I don't think so, but it would be funny.

Another interesting thing to note is that anything that just adds generic melee damage increasing effects or perks also increases the bleed, which includes Slugger, Adrenal reaction, Bloody Mess, Fury, foods like you mentioned, and even the Super Chem Mk1. The scythe synergizes surprisingly well with the Super Chem Mk1 for a free 30% more bleed on demand alongside Thorn armor.

Turtle, you have to review the V63 Shock Baton. It appears to do less damage with the electrified mod. The ONLY available mod!

@Binidj

23 күн бұрын

Seriously? Oh FFS!

They bleed oil and hydraulic fluid. Just wish it were anti armor swing speed 1 strength.

@IWillySaySomething

23 күн бұрын

I wish it was vampires since bleed effect.

Wait, has Turtle mentioned the Red Upper and Overly Generous combo before? This is the first im ever hearing of that. o:

it probably applies a fresh stack of adrenaline that terminates the original stack of adrenaline and very briefly you have two stacks

The strange damage jump is from Adrenalin. When you kill an enemy it creates a new adrenaline buff that replaces the old buff. But for half second both buffs exist together before the old one disappears, which causes a brief damage boost. You can see it for yourself if open the buff page and watch the Adrenaline buff when something dies. A second damage bonus will pop up to the right of the normal damage bonus and then immediately disappears.

Pronunciation was perfect, that's a tough word

the issue you saw with the damage at the end might be a coding bug, I think the effect of Adrenaline was being added before checking the condition of how much the maximum damage can be added was checked. therefore after the check was made that the maximum damage Adrenaline was already reached any further damage added by the skill after that is being redacted. cant explain it well but i hope you got the gist of it

I've noticed the Lost seem especially weak to the bleed DOT. I'm running a full health build, no melee buffs from food, only Incisor and Martial Artist for melee perks, and level 100 Lost die instantly after one hit from a Head Hunter. Considering how tanky they are against everything else, it's become my new go-to weapon for that region of the map. I never thought to upgrade it at a workbench after claiming it and crafting one, but now I'm very glad I didn't after watching this.

@shadowrush001

23 күн бұрын

i think Lost count towards humans as they aren't exactly scorched nor ghouls.

@Slosten

23 күн бұрын

@shadowrush001 Yeah, but other humans (Blood Eagles, Cultists, etc) on average take two or three swings for me to kill. I'm not exaggerating when I say Lost die *instantly* after one swing. It reminds me of the Cremator against certain enemies, where you can pinpoint the moment the DOT kicks in because it kills them immediately. Edit: I should mention I've only tried it in private servers so far, so it might not be as effective in public servers, as is the case with other DOT sources.

@AliG-ky7zd

23 күн бұрын

Electro mines or grenades also oneshot them, if i am not mistaken. They also drop quite a few of those, which is pretty handy.

That is most probably the 7th adrenaline stack. The effect is noticeable due to how the game manage the buff stacks (if you got the 7th stack, they take away the oldest one one tick after) and on top of that, the way the calculation is done both in local and server side (there's a wait for the server to confirms the deletion of the oldest stack). If you have a way to debug the game and make it run frame by frame, you will see the effect taking place.

Thanks for keeping up the good work on this game Turtle.

Have you tried the 2hd V63 melee weapon? It tested it just for fun in West Tek while I was wearing my Cremator dot loadout. It one hits every lvl 100 super mutant even legendaries.

This weapon is nuts. Im only lvl 188 with deathclaw steak and glowing meat and I'm clearing rooms of fodder way faster than with my gauntlet even with full health. Tankier enemies I switch over to Zweihander after getting the bleed proc. Melee eating good

Welp first thing I'll do when I log on tomorrow is revert back to standard instead of sharp

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

you will need to craft a new one

@Vestige429

23 күн бұрын

Ahh ok, thanks for the heads up

And the weapon is about to 'fixed' as they always are when the youtube videos comes out x)

@GyroZeppel

22 күн бұрын

Good

The damage uptick could be adrenaline or adrenal reaction since you were taking damage sometimes.

😡🐢 Thank you for the information… although I find it hard to play as a mele build with a bunch of heavy gunners; by the time I run to the enemy it’s dead, lol… I will stick as a heavy gunner for events and have fun with this scythe doing daily/weekly tasks😊

Assassin's on weapons isn't that bad they help me clean up house in the casino Expeditions, imo i think if you want to Lv up faster it's probably better to run those instead of bugging them Wes tek super mutants , plus you get script and legendary weapons and and stamps and not to mention the odds of getting plans and All the loot along the way 😎

Thank you for posting this. A different YTr had a very different impression. Like you say, key is the build and use of melee buff food.

It will ve however probably fixed/reworked soon anyway, I guess, but if that would stay as that, I would probably start to use that instead of autoaxe for 'kill by melee only' mutation thing

I would love to see this build perks you have and buffs you are taking to get that damage.

Does each hit from the weapon add additional instances of the bleed or does it only refresh the bleed duration?

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

refresh

@Everfrost9

23 күн бұрын

@@AngryTurtle Too bad. But it already seems really powerful anyways. lol

So whats happening is the big bleed will apply on the second swing. For some reason the mod bleed applies first swing Then second swing weapon bleed. Try it on a tougher enemy

If you get a sprint in while attacking you hit harder

holy crap, thanks for this, fixing my scythe now youre a legend

My guess is the brief damage buff is caused by Adrenaline perk but for some reason they've made it cancel itself immediately.

nice i got to try that radiation damage/red uper, i just assumed bots, super mutants an scorched (in the case of ghouls get healed by it) were immune to it.

I upgraded mine before using it and noticed the bleed effect was not working. So I thought just another bugged bethesda weapon and scrapped it, thanks for this info. Bethesda need to sort this crap out and test new items they add.

Mate using 2 or more Cremators still stacks the bleeding? And using like 4 syringes doesnt work anymore? I heard something but im not sure

Broooo.... how did you just jetpack into the boss fight from the top?!?!

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

my house is there 😅

@sapphicseas0451

23 күн бұрын

​@@AngryTurtleshow us the location!

I need to know about the other new two handed weapon! Is it better then the War Glaive!? Thanks for this video though lol

Ngl The fly in to new event was looking like it was gonna be a super hero landing entrance 😅

Did you factor in Twisted Muscle Mutation?

Reminds me of my upgrade at work that locked out 1500 people from our network.

I like it with the robes with a hockey mask.

Assassins is such a dumb legendary effect, I feel they should add an event, like a raiders event that was like a colloseeum, but you had 5 rounds, and each round you survived against a player, you got a reward multiplier for the event

Very interesting Turtle, thanks!

Can you try this weapon + thorn + grenadier + biggest aoe grenades only? In your old video, i noticed that the Dot damage carries over in the grenade.. so.. im thinking.. yeet and forget grenades away.. Since in your levelup vids, an instigating weapon carries over to the grenade damage. Also -Ricochet also procs bleed? -Sneak doubles bleed proc?

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

weapon prefix carry over not the dot

@XooCATSooX

23 күн бұрын

@@AngryTurtle i have read in reddit that some mods also in weapons affect grenades.. such as suppressor making the grenade silent.

@number11369

22 күн бұрын

Ricochet doesn't seem to proc bleed damage with this one

Es muy buena el arma yo la probé hace unos días en mi directo y el daño por sangrado🩸 es muy bueno lo malo es la primera estrella en mi opinión saludos.

Do you know wether or not the bleed stacks?

Damn it turtle, you were not supposed to make me want that. I was taking this scoreboard off.

whats making the explosions when you hit things?, if its a legendary perk card which 1?

@rick_oshea

23 күн бұрын

He's using Hack & Slash legendary perk card.

Does the talons mutation affect the head hunter scythes bleed?

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

no

Yall realize this weapon is the reason why the pickaxe in game is give modules

Great review ❤

I just unlocked it lets goooo

Can you equip and rotate 3 or 4 for stacked DoT?

@stefani.5737

23 күн бұрын

Interesting hypothesis.

@Kevlin0069

23 күн бұрын

If that's how you can stack Endangerol with syringers, and stack fire dots with Cremators, then stacking bleeds by through three Scythes should also be possible, right?

@johnfoley74

23 күн бұрын

@@Kevlin0069 fyi you can't stack Endangerol any more. Not saying the Scythe won't stack, it might IDK.

Instigating is my go-to for melee.

One thing i dont like about the DoT effects is that bethesda failed to add in visual adventure style numbers to them..

If I take the upgrade off of my current headhunter will it change back to normal?

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

you will need to craft a new one

@RadicalQuadMachine

23 күн бұрын

@@AngryTurtle ok no problem, knowing bethesda I figured it would permanently screw with the one I have. They should really change the sharp upgrade to bleed damage, this weapon has so much potential yet they just messed it up so bad. It's still a good weapon though.

"Robots can bleed in this game!" 😆😆😆

@jimperkins1459

23 күн бұрын

It's "a hydraulic fluid leak"😅

Finally. a new melee weapon.

Would it be good against earl?

How do you mess up changing damage over time type like this for a melee weapon? Also adding a scythe that has specifically is modded for humans meanwhile all the new mobs are a copy scorched and robots

@stetsonscott8209

23 күн бұрын

Not copy scorched. Detection and movement are different, as well as stats. The main similarity is that they are changed humans with barely-lucid chatter.

@shadowrush001

23 күн бұрын

Lost count towards humans (you can tell based from speech) so that may be why the scythe does human damage.

@Jashua-

23 күн бұрын

@stetsonscott8209 I dont know why you're going out of your way to defend them, but the lost are literally reskinned scorch with different stats. I don't know what you mean by "movement," but they behave and almost act exactly like them

@Jashua-

23 күн бұрын

@@shadowrush001 really? Could I get some evidence cause I can't really find anything that classifies them

Damage against humans is the most useless perk, after you finish the story line almost all humans are now your friend which means its only a boost on blood eagles.

I can bet! that balistic dot is not intended bugs being feactures

Holy sh... . How are players supposed to know that the higher damage number actually deals LESS damage :D :D thank you very much for die vid!

Turtle my dude, I can't test so I gotta ask.. I have been maining the Scythe for some time now and I see the patch notes mention how it is now 'changed to bleed' (hasn't it always been bleed unless you use the mod??) and they also want feedback on how it feels. Has it been nerfed? I use it with thorn and having quite a bit of fun.

Thanks a lot! Can you tell me if Rad from Overly Generous works with barehand build (Tesla bracers of PA)?

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

it does but chance to trigger is low so you really need crazy fast attacking weapon to see it frequently

@kirillfedurin3150

23 күн бұрын

@@AngryTurtle I see. Will check later how it works with Drill, I have lazy PA character with addictions and lot of Str+Char :)

Great job Turtle!

Turtle, Adrenaline is boosting your damage numbers at the end of the video...

Anything other than an auto axe is not worth the time as melee.

@AnuZero

23 күн бұрын

It’s more so for the fun factor. Can get boring using auto axe for long periods of time.

@gigachad6885

23 күн бұрын

Isn't the double chainsaw better ?

@crazy-tommy

23 күн бұрын

has something changed? last time I checked the chain saw was still slightly better than auto axe

@boojon2

23 күн бұрын

Chainsaw flaming dual bar...

@chuckfin

23 күн бұрын

@@boojon2 Lightning mod on auto axe...

I love these wepon reviews 👍

Another one 😩 I thought we was over the bug that effects weapons when you change paints / skins ect. Lol

Yeah but the only thing is is you can't drop that once you Crafted The melee weapon can't be dropped

I tried the radium rifle on the robots and it didn't do much damage

they should let us re-roll it or give us a human boss battle, maybe a blood eagle in power armor or something idk.

When I make my character bloodied, even with unyielding SS armor, I die so fast. How do you just stand there and never die!?

@superchronic3944

23 күн бұрын

Dodgy, blocker, and serendipity perk cards help

@shadowrush001

23 күн бұрын

Bloodied takes allot of commitment and pieces to do just right. partly why i myself havent gotten to a build of it yet.

Takes longer to launch nuke than it takes to complete event with gamma gun.

100% dmg on monsters with full HP should double the bleed effect dmg. Right????

It just works

Is there a guide for the radiation build you are running?

@AngryTurtle

23 күн бұрын

it's universal melee build, I have similar one on the channel, I will probably update this one too

It's really like they don't test anything. What the hell is the PTS for anyway? Truly inept. 🙄🙄🙄

@user-xh1mc9ni9o

23 күн бұрын

😅👍

@tomsmith6379

23 күн бұрын

It's so they know what their fans like so they can take it away

Ballistic dot wow thats fuckin laaaaame

What mod are you using on auto axe?

@AngryTurtle

22 күн бұрын

electrified

U cant drop it sadly. I wanted to drop one to a lvl 1 just out of the vault and it just destroyed it instead

@H2Ohexagon

23 күн бұрын

Nothing with the ⚛ is dropable

Is Shattered Grounds any good?

How do you get radiation damage on a Auto Axe as shown at 5:50?

@AngryTurtle

22 күн бұрын

I think I showed the perk, you just need to have it equipped that's it

@TUTruth

21 күн бұрын

@@AngryTurtle Yep, Overly Generous perk.

By the time a fresh vault dweller can unlock this weapon on the pass they'll be past 50

Auto axe still insaely op for a bladed melee weapon compared to anything else

I can't wait to craft this and roll it as a bloody weapon ( edit: can't be rolled)

Kinda feel like grim reaper if u use the skull mask an robes lol

200% food bonus?!?! From what?

@shadowrush001

23 күн бұрын

yaogui roast and carnivore mutations. combine with strange in numbers and you got an easy 225% melee boost. big melee weapons like super sledge and bone hammer will drop pretty much anything.

@Joker-dn7or

23 күн бұрын

@@shadowrush001back woodsman 6 also gives additional 50% food effects

been catching a lot of pvpers trying to swipe me with this, they havent caught me yet but now i know it's going to hurt

How did you get to level 111?

thank you turtle! your reports make this game even more fun!

Hi! Im asking if anyone can do any daily ops like do them over and over again for experience and legendaries im not forcing you to

They'll fix it. That was clearly a mistake.

tq for info

It’s a pickaxe but no modules for scrapping 😂