“Back in the days you had skillz or didn’t get booked.” Amen brother.

For sure ban them away, this will make place for new young dj's who can handle making show and playling live at the same time :)

All this happens to those DJs who play music at TommorrowLand!😉

I think that a lot of people who are interested in electronic music really appreciate live performances and see the difference between DJ set and live set

@amygdalos96

4 жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely. But it is much more appreciated in undergrund electronic music imo

@janwrona9539

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Live show or live performance they show how talented and how much passion and effort put in certain artist to his show.

@jdstarek

4 жыл бұрын

Um, a DJ set IS a live set. I’m confused by this comment. Do you mean live music (instruments/band)? DJing is supposed to be “live”... there is no general assumption that a DJ’s set is a recorded playback. DJs “breaking the rules” by playing a recording is the exception, not the rule.

@amygdalos96

4 жыл бұрын

@@jdstarek no he means producers that do live sets with production software like ableton and recreate their own songs. They arrange loops and play synthesizers live. Some do even band+dj performances like for example 1200 micrograms or parov stelar.

@piotrpietryga3318

4 жыл бұрын

@@jdstarek I understand that you can be confused. Check this video with Jon Hopkins playing his own track to understand the difference: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4GltKmoktmpj5c.html

Back in the day you couldn't fake a dj set? Hahahaha. There was a hidden cd player under the booth hooked up to the line in on one of the mixer channels.... and MANY dj's did it.

@N1h1L3

4 жыл бұрын

In my dj years (1994-2008) I've never seen that happening. Even in 2002 it was often hard to even get a cd player in the booth working to play my own productions which weren't yet out on vinyl. Later on dj's brought one of with their own cdj-100 to play their own tracks between the vinyl releases because the locations/clubs really never had cd players. It wasn't until after 2006 or so the the CDJ 1000's really became the standard and replaced vinyl.

@jovantrendmaker4722

2 жыл бұрын

In our club people were still mostly playing vinyl or final scratch in 2008

@FIXTREME

2 жыл бұрын

​@@N1h1L3 My father owned a nightclub in 2002, and we had cd players and automation software. however, our place had the the DJ tucked away in a booth (out of sight & mind.) I'm sure more reputable establishments that featured big-time DJ's were different. Also, wouldn't it have made sense to use DAT instead of CD? CD's can skip and give away the charade

Pre-prepared = OKAY Pre-recorded = NOKAY I use Soundswitch, so I can still play individual tracks and the DMX signal is yet perfectly synchronized.

It’s absolutely ridiculous and needs banned these guys are getting paid thousands some millions to mix and spin music if they can’t beat match for a hour set they shouldn’t be making this kind of money it takes away completely from the craft

@derekmcnanny751

4 жыл бұрын

Another side I actually dj myself so coming from my point of view I would never even be able to do soo I love coming into a gig not knowing what I’m gonna play an go off reading the crowd an what they are feeling idk it takes away from the magic!

@derekmcnanny751

4 жыл бұрын

III III I mean your sadly correct about the audience not carrying jealous nah this about money for me man I’ll gladly play for ten people or a packed room I’d rather be actually playing the record any day but for these big name acts to do soo hey it’s fine and not that it matters to them they just don’t get my money because I personally don’t respect it 🤷🏼‍♂️ I mean people like Carl Cox for example actually still plays the records an that’s in front of tens of thousands of people I’m saying if your gonna get a 100,000 dollar check to play a hour and a half set you best be actually playing it!

If the mix is pre-recorded, why even bother having decks on stage? i mean, just have dancers/performers/entertainers doing their thing without calling themselves "DJ's", why confuse the wording of things?

@thomassynths

4 жыл бұрын

this

@chrisbleezy2988

4 жыл бұрын

Lol you made me picture all the producers standing on stage playing tracks off their mixcloud with nothing but their phones plugged into the master aux 😂

Ban them. Im fed up of seeing everyone fawning over fake DJ lady style videos.

This debate on what a real DJ is has been going on forever. I remember vinyl DJs getting so upset at digital DJs simply because they didn't have to know how to beat match. While I appreciate the techniques involved, the experience that's being created matters most to the audience. So I definitely think there is room for everybody. That being said, artists who have put in the work to develop their skills and techniques should naturally be held in higher regard than those who simply press play or rely on handlers.

For me if you can't play a set live you should leave it to the people who can. Producers produce, djs dj. If you can do both then it's perfect, if not then partner up or focus on the part you can do.

@kingpietro1279

2 жыл бұрын

lets be honest Dj who don't fake it don't have to do a lot live its still not as big as playing a instrument in front of a huge crowd. Dj's have no talent

@soneil12

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly though musicians have barely ever made any money from music sales. It's always been live performances where they make their living. So if you're a producer then what do you do? You can't go on tour sitting on stage with a laptop. There has to be a performance. Most people associate dance music with DJs. So when producers tour they DJ. Some are legitimately good DJs. For the ones who aren't, they fake it.

@AlexMoschopoulos

8 ай бұрын

The problem is that the crowd mostly recognizes who made the song that they are dancing and going nuts to. So you might put a skilled DJ in the booth, and the crowd won't know who this person is and will wonder why they can't get the big name that made that big tune. It's the music industry. A lot of you have to remember that the promoter of a club or even a festival is thinking about numbers of people. Not keeping it real.

Richie hawtin controls the lights along side his hybrid sets

I think that the dj shoikd decide if they want to pre record or not it allows them to take the time to make a super awesome mix and takes away the fear of messing up and allows the dj to engage with the crowd more

Big up brother so true I hate fake djs all about the live sets I've been djn n producing dnb since 1994 all about skill love the vinyl

I only accept pre-planned or pre-recorded sets, if it has a purpose. For example I play guitar in a band and the reason our sets are mostly the same is firstly, that we only play our own songs, which limits the possibilties. Another main reason would be, that all four of us need to know what to play, so we don´t mess up. We do actually allways have some parts, that are improvised, but at pre-planned times and it only really works live, because we have been doing it for a while together. Now that I also started to dj, I never plan anything, but try to play my own songs at some point while practicing. I would really like to do something like techno live sets with drum machines and analog synths though, but the gear is too expensive for me at the moment.

Excellent video. One of my first video watching on DJing

Lots of famous artist use click tracks and backing vocals...some lip sing, and some bands don’t even play at all. If the crowd is entertained who cares. We know they are talented

I'm not with pre-recorded sets. It is shameful to fake knobs turning and uselessly push buttons. But it is important to have a scenario or a playlists as you'd want to play exclusive ID's or mashups.

While I much prefer them to play live. Pre-recorded sets do enable much more complicated shows, with tighter integration with lighting, video and pyro. Ultimately ending up with a better show for the audience.

Like you say, with big festivals , huge lightshows, the dj has to stick to the plan. The music has to be communicated months/weeks in front.

This is not an issue in the house, techno, tech house scene. This is a thing that has arrived because of American EDM music and shouldn’t even be a discussion 😂 a pre recorded set should never be allowed when performing, that’s not a dj

@MrKazukstan

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. This is a pop music issue. This doesn't happen in real clubs lol

@filiptravnicek4791

Жыл бұрын

I agree. In underground scene this will never happend

its embarrassing superstar DJ's need to fake it, it's easy to beat match

@N1h1L3

4 жыл бұрын

You forget it is hard to make heart hands instead.

@AlexMoschopoulos

8 ай бұрын

A lot of the problem is the crowd. If you look at a 10,000 person festival, I guarantee you most of them really could care less if the DJ is playing real or not. They are waiting to hear their favorite song, they are ecstatic at the big name. They've heard and see this person as if they just saw Paris Hilton walk into a nightclub. We all want to believe that everybody at these festivals is deep into the music and the culture and wants everything to be kept real, but a lot of people more or less show up for the experience of the festival as opposed to the music and the DJ. A lot of them would rather have a fake set and the great visuals and the big experience as opposed to toning it all down. So the DJ plays live and beat matches manually. I just had to realize long ago that the only people that really care about this stuff are DJs and the handful of people that are deep into the culture. This is why I tell all of them to stick to smaller venues and local events.

I wouldn't necessarely compare a DJ to a band. A DJ's job is to read a crowd and adapt to the vibe, energy, country whatever. So in a Solo Show I don't mind a pre-planned set, but in a club or at a festival a DJ shouldn't plan out his tracklist. Adapting to a crowd is the difference between a DJ and a performer in my opinion.

Love prerecordings, they make my two turntables and spinning vinyl look to much more authentic.

I started DJING back in 1988 when you had to know how to beat match. Worked at the biggest clubs and Dance parties Australia had. Now with the equipment these days you can hit the sync button almost anyone can DJ lol

@AlexMoschopoulos

8 ай бұрын

Yes, and I honestly think the sync has broadened what the DJ can do, especially when you are diving into things like stems. The hard reality though is that the DJs being talked about aren't even using it. They are just creating a mix in a studio, and then playing a disc while pretending to DJ at a festival. I know how to manually beat match, but I still use the technology. Why would I not use it? I've come to realize the crowd honestly doesn't care if you can manually beat match. They care if you play a solid set and if you play tunes they can get into. I will also say that a sync button won't play the music at the right timing, create a good set, or do good blending with EQs and other things. Still, all of this debate is pointless because these bigger names are not even bothering with any of it. For all we know, they could have hired a DJ to make the set that they are playing at festivals.

TL;DR, Nothing wrong with pre-recorded but it's not flexible to the crowd at all. The whole idea is to keep the party going right? So long as that's happening there's nothing wrong with a pre-recorded set. The issue is when reading the crowd and what you have lined up in your pre-recorded set won't keep the energy up: that's when one needs to know the skills.

@kotwanehikwa

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Scott well said

@AlexMoschopoulos

8 ай бұрын

I agree with you. This is especially true if you're working a club or smaller venue. Unfortunately with festivals, it's more that the crowd has to tolerate whatever the DJ is doing and they have no say on whether or not things can be changed.

Beat matching is the bread and butter of djing, if you dont then you arent a dj, you are a performer.

how about prerecorded mashups? are they ok to use?

I like your honesty

If you not DJ live, what are you doing? If u use pre recorded sets u should do something like, light, smoke, fireworks, VJ, stunts.. ……….

@KESLR.

4 жыл бұрын

Salvatore ganaci 🙄

@TiloloiT

4 жыл бұрын

@@KESLR. Entertaiment 😂😂

@Astroboytoy

4 жыл бұрын

You can bake cakes to throw to the crowd.

If you are a good producer and your fans just wanna see you and your music being played than I think pre recorded are ok

@davidrowan3853

2 жыл бұрын

You would, you've never been a dj and your songs are cheesey pish 👀😂

@Jay_Kayy

Жыл бұрын

Please eff off. People like you are ruining the culture. DJ is about showmanship and taking people on a journey, that's why I stay mixing vinyl-only. Eff modern fake azzzz DJs. They are punks

lightshows can be done live too though...

@TheCharmu

2 жыл бұрын

At my local punk house we have mostly volenteers on light-duty. Its always live and most of us are complete beginners:) Very fun to play the buttons like an instrument x)

Well they banned Milli Vanilli in the 80s for lip syncing. They paid $150k and should not be faking. I have never prepared a set.

......Shalom Ach ...Great Video.

I think if any use pre recorded mix they should still add to it, loops, mash in other music, create a completely new mix from it every time

Fake DJ sets are like restaurant chefs. Everything is mixed in the kitchen and dishes are staged for the patrons. Enjoy your stay and enjoy the show

If you do that, don’t call yourself a dj and never stand behind decks ever again!

I think its fine. Its my opinion about it

The ONLY TIME I’ve ever used a prerecorded, was for piss breaks. I’ll throw a 10m mix on just to cover my time away .. I also DJ a lot of kids party’s, so I sometimes record an hour set at home, so then I can throw the mix on, and MC/ dance with the kids and not have to worry about running behind the booth and changing songs every 2-3min. I’ve never had a set list, it’s always open format, off the top of my head.. I guess it depends on the type of gig.

As mentioned, when you're talking about show wide choreography, makes sense because so many things need to be on point (ie it's about the fireworks and lights and not just the performance of the guy mixing music). That said when it comes to someone that is expected to perform AT the show it's absolutely not ok. I started when it was vinyl only. The time an effort it took to gain enough skill to put on a show meant something, it was part of the magic for lack of a better word. In such a case the second you take that away to simply play a track, you've instantly turned yourself into an mp3 player which anyone with a browser can do. I don't know anyone that would knowingly travel to a venue and pay money to have someone push play, they came for a performance. As to banning people, I think that is a question for the individual venues and events. Ultimately it's their location and reputation on the line and thus a matter of their own integrity. I've come across events and venues that would have no problem with someone pre-recording something so long as they weren't caught and essentially the money kept flowing. As distasteful as I find it, those places are incredibly rare (or were often duped the same as the crowd).

Watch Shaq’s set at Tomorrowland, he tries to fake mixing but it’s obvious he doesn’t do anything

Turntabelism… you can’t fake it with vinyls :))

Prepping for a set is widely acceptable and anticipated. For example some producers and Dj’s will edit tracks to have the same bpm or 4 bar intro and drops. But to hit play on a separate deck and act-out your set is a disgrace.

Yes they should!And not getting on the gear table.Sometimes the gear fells down. If it was my organisation,club,i would make them pay for damage. Play music,don't be the party pooper ! Thats my modo! Thanks for your videos!!! Good Luck with all the reste!

I was a Lighting Designer in the days of 1200s and Wax and cheating was never an option. DJs are mostly face guys, shameful.

Kann man sich dein Studio mal ansehen?

Don’t think they should be banded. Listen if the crowd is having fun, and the dj isn’t ripping songs, and if the dj isn’t lying about it, and if you pre make the mix yourself, no harm, go for it. It’s all about turning the crowd up. You can also play a pre made mix and literally do cool effects.

If it wasn't for fake mix sets I would never have had a career as a DJ. I don't know anything about how to mix music. But to be totally real, I was trained as a radio personality and knew absolutely nothing about being a mobile DJ. I used my name as a radio DJ to transition into a mobile DJ career, but I never actually got any training in how to mix music. So I was basically just faking it for 10. I had someone who made up mixes for me using DJ software.

In my country in Indonesia fake dj is phenomenal including a dj woman who sells a sexy body, she only carries songs only from a flash and most are adult male magazine models, so she just relies on downloading songs from the internet and inserting them into a flashdisk instead of making her own arrangements, for example, arranging in fl studios, ableton, etc. just like that there is no change

@filiptravnicek4791

Жыл бұрын

Wow that Is sad I live in Czech republic And se have here some good festivals like Let it roll and I never see any prerecorded set but i was never be in backstage So i can't see it

The fact that this is an actual discussion in your community with people on both sides is a bit of an embarrassment.

You said some interesting facts, i belive thats CDjs and Controllers destroyed Djing and music as a whole because 1st, vinyl was limited back in the early 90s and so was Techinic 1210s due to fact £700 for a pair was a lot of money and only well off people could afford them aswelll as buying records. 2nd back in the 90s you saved your hard earnt cash and went to a rave to listen to your favorite DJ who... in effect was able too play the limited records at the time in a way = set that you really liked. it was these DJ Sets that made DJs popular and even famous 3, DJs had to compete with eachother with skills to best eachothers Sets, while others moved too other music styles. Carlcox became famous because in 94 he was the only DJ who play 3 decks live. i know because i was there at the Carlcox concept rave... :) 4 but the biggest issue in muisc to day is the tracks are short and designed for looping, cutting, fx ect ect, vinyl records are around 6 - 8 mins long, some can be longer, but your typical tracks today are on average 3:30 mins - 4:30mins long? muisc today is visual and not by ear, Djs today mix like 4 tracks in 2 min with unwated loops, double drops, fx etc etc.... Ejs today dont play music..... they play an edited version of what they think is music.. But as you said back in the day it was harder to play vinyl but its that interaction and the feeling that makes you a real Dj... Music comes from the heart and what you hear, music isnt what you seen on a screen or what you pre-set before... I think many Ejs need to take a few steps back and learn about muisc because we the listeners dont care about how well you operate your £1000 Dj controller etc. we just want to hear music as it was writen and your skills to make it happen in your way :)

A faker isnt a DJ, its only a Performer. When you use Vinyl, there is no Chance of faking. Its the same like singing playback.

lots of popular DJs in China do this, I just don't understand why the clubs books these "DJs", who don't really bother to fake it, they just dance on the stage.... I mean are you a DJ or a go go dancer?

Sync ruined everything although a handy button to some, there's nothing like the pressure to get it right head down in the zone, no waiting just working the whole set.... Vinyl days

@no-am4492

2 жыл бұрын

Actually I'm doing my first gigs on campings, I'm playing with a DDJ-1000 and I use a lot my sync button, (I always prepare tracks and adjust the beat grid before). I also have Vynil turntables wich I use for my own pleasure (at home with friends) and sometimes into illegal FreeParty's in France. So using sync when you play disco, funk, variety, and commercial EDM for work isn't a shame if your crowd want to hear that, and it let you really more time to watch and to choose your next track.

So true, coming from vinyl no way to fake it. However, today, I suspect some, not all, DJ's are faking it.

Those superstar EDM djs playing pre-recorded sets are shit (sorry to the offended kids). The sets are the same, they unnecessarily speak in the mic and there is no real mixing, just a dry cut after every 30s drop (vibe killer). That is why techno and psytrance djs and parties are better. They are always mixing live. They keep the groove going from beginning to end.

You might aswell send a mixtape

All the crowd cares is the music. If it's prerecorded or not No one really cares. All that matters is did the guy in front of the stage give the crowd the right musical energy to dance the night out

I think doing prerecorded is falling lower than the one that simulates playing keys during sets

I edit and mix before loading tracks in the set list, and do all the transitions and additions live- that way I can divert some of my attention to also using the DMX console. It would be pretty tough to fully integrate edits on the fly while synchronizing lights simultaneously. Humans have their limits in terms of multi-tasking. Pre-recording the entire set with transitions and elements is super sketchy to me, ethically speaking. I don’t think that is okay.

Maybe they could make videos of the pre-recording process and play that on the screen with the light shows and effects, and just be present on the stage, maybe hyping on the mic or playing the tambourine or whatever, or actually produce a full show with dancers, MCs, robots and holograms instead of faking it behind the decks, which I think hurts the whole industry. The completely fake DJs, like everyone on the DJanes channel, should be exposed (well, they're already almost fully exposed behind the decks, if you catch my drift) and absolutely not booked to any live event ever as DJs. The DJs who do it live, could maybe start underlining it more, like calling their shows "DJ Super-Bob's Live Set" or similar and make it so that it's obvious to the audience it's happening right there live, show the skills and clearly separate themselves from any of the hired models acting like they're playing. Hopefully audiences start craving for more of that instead of the fakes in the future.

Most DJs aren't really DJs. Laidback Luke is a real DJ.

@Silkmaster4200

4 жыл бұрын

If u do something funky live ! People in the crowd will know u doing it live. For instance. Loop joggling, Effects, Backspins etc..

@TonyThomas10000

4 жыл бұрын

@@Silkmaster4200 So true! Check out Laidback Luke's set @ Tomorrowland 2019. He is definitely mixing it live...

@ic3manofficial

4 жыл бұрын

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@TonyThomas10000

4 жыл бұрын

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@TonyThomas10000

4 жыл бұрын

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I can see reasons for it, but in my opinion, it should only be used when absolutely necessary. As some below have said, bathroom or smoke breaks when you can't stop the music are a good reason, but they are short. I can see it for a huge festival also because of the scheduling and lighting. Now if someone thinks they can just record 4 or 5, 60 to 90 minute sets and hit the bar scene... no. no. NO. I am killing myself trying to get ready for my first gig and ya know what? Overall, I am going to suck at DJing, but I will not be using any premixed sets. I will instead be learning more. For my first gig, I can keep it uber simple. After many years in a band, I know how to keep people dancing and in the end it does not require fancy mixing or 30, 2 minute clips of songs smashed together. It comes down to good song choices, proper volume levels, communication with the audience and most importantly, having a good time yourself. If you are not having fun, your audience will not have fun.

When we moved away from Turntables into the digital age its spawned a generation of Fake DJ's...Fact.

No, the hit the industry took had nothing to do with piracy. Many, many, MANY studies were done on the subject and proved otherwise. It may be argued that it's the other way around, piracy help curbed the fall.

You can tell quite easily if a DJ fakes his/her performance on youtube, and being just so dissapointed in DJs when i realized the whole goddamn set is on 2 (or even worse, 1 ) usb drives, i always try to spot 'fakeness' if i encounter an upcoming DJ that has an interesting set. In my opinion the vinyl seperates the Men/Women from the boys/girls. Ask a DJ, any DJ to do a set on vinyl, and it will tell right away if the DJ is truly so amazing as he or she appears to be. But the lightshow/fireworks story that it has to sync with the music makes sense.. you as a DJ don't want to be the fuckup 'who does it all realtime' and transforms the whole show into a clusterfuck because the needle jumped.

Pre recorded sets defeats the purpose of being a dj......u just press play and the crowd doesn't know

imo if u produce quality music u can have a pre made set..if u DJ only u should be mixing live

Freestyle

If you prerecord the complete mix (one gig) its basicly cheating (in my opinion)... There are some dj performance videos on youtube (like sountec) they dont care about hiding the fact that its pre recorded...

Why is paris hilton playing at tomorrowland? Sorry 😉👍🇨🇭👍🎶🎧

The job of a DJ is to find and expose good music that otherwise would had been always hidden. If your set is prerecorded but you know it's good, it's okay. But if it's shit then you'll have to activate them DJ mixing skills and put good music before the crowd starts to leave.

@janwrona9539

4 жыл бұрын

1st sentence is amazing. About pre-recorded set its also a little bit tricky because if you do them or anyone make them in studio or at home, there is no pressure from "crowd" or basicly from anyone so i think its way easier and ofc you can fix or record it again if need so. What I see as true dj skill is to react on crowd and on possible mistakes, gltiches and so on instantly. Prerecorded set seems to have non of this problems.

@AlexMoschopoulos

8 ай бұрын

I agree and this is the reason why if you are working a normal club or a smaller event, you can't just walk in with a pre-recorded set. You need to be nimble and versatile so you can change things up if you can see the crowd isn't feeling it. The problem is that at a festival, the crowd has to take whatever is being given. So if the big DJ comes on and plays a techno set that nobody is feeling, and everybody leaves the stage to go somewhere else in the festival, they just have to suck it up until he's finished. Unless of course this DJ has it in him to blend out of the pre-recorded set and start live DJing to win the crowd back.

Im a big drum and bass fan, and every single DnB event Ive been too, no DJ has ever used a pre recorded set... I recently just went to Tomorrowland, and saw some awfully evident pre recorded stuff... Still had the time of my life, but I do like to see a DJ actually Dj'ing, it's just lazy in my eyes.... The closing show all 3 days at Tomorrowland was the same, amazing to see, but once you saw it you saw it.

@harrycragg28

4 жыл бұрын

Don't @ me either, but Dj Diesel's set absolutely popped off.

@filiptravnicek4791

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Iam drum And bass fan too. Some poeple tell that Kanine And A.M.C had prerecorded sets but i dont think so

Why pay for pre-Recorded sets when you can buy most high profile sets for $9.99

Nothing wrong with the same playlist, but those who fake dj sets can screw off

Even real DJing isn't exactly doing much.

Guetta festival sets are so prerecorded... 1min brake and buildup followed by 30sec drop, next song same staff same transition, repeat.... his hands in air, transition happening on its on... But when he performs for BBC for example his tech-house set wasn't prerecorded and had mistakes witch you don't expect from someone who is 20 years in the game...

@vvebermashups9799

4 жыл бұрын

I can tell that u not have a dj setup🤤

@LAskeHosting

4 жыл бұрын

@@vvebermashups9799 its time for you to wake-up kiddo, that dream you are living is lie, Guetta is faking it on every festival and it has nothing to do with lightshow or fireworks.... even he is ashamed of how much he destroyed music industry in last 10 years and he don't want to be part of that shitty edm mashups anymore...but hay, you are the one who is making generic mashups and wonna be big in worst genre in history of music.... so who am i to judge your soulless creations...

@vvebermashups9799

4 жыл бұрын

AverageGuy I respect you more for being humble, the first comment you did was really disrespectful. I make mashups for fun, you write comments you don’t know anything about for fun, so we are just two guys with the same interest. Having fun👍🏻

With pre recorded set it depends on what the situation like say if a DJ has a gig in like a few days and has just done producing music and only had an email from the events people saying they would like the DJ to play at their venue in a few days. for the DJ they would be under the pressure and havent had time to organise a set so gavibg a pre recorded set would be hand and plus as long the crowd likes it thats the main thing but with fake djs thats different entirely as the fake djs aret really bothered about wjat they play and just dont ever leanr should be banned.

It’s like going to a “live” band playing their records and pretend to play their instruments. No problem for DJ’s? I think it is worse. At least with a band you would know, but a DJ fakes it like it’s real. Maybe the problem is going to a DJ as main attraction. I used to go to a club for the choice of music by a specific DJ and his creation of atmosphere. With a bigger venue and hype everything seems fake. The collective need for togetherness and agreement on how “great” this particular DJ is, trumps the actual quality, creativity and real performance. Yak

long story short: dj has a powerful title behind it so i expect you to be able to make your own mixes and play them with your own hands instead of fake pre-recorded, if i wanted that crap i can listen to the radio or a podcast XD

@5:59 for a moment I thought you meant Australian people... 'Down Under'

There should be DJ’s and there should be Producers. The problem is we’ve glorified producers, because like a band, they are the creators, but unfortunately no djing skills.

No way are pre-recorded sets ok, it should result in name and shaming of these so called dj’s that do it. It’s effectively stealing a living and cheating everyone who is there. I’m from a different genre to a lot of your fans i believe (drum n bass) and that genre is fairly elitist; if anyone is stealing a living they would be outcasted and would (rightly) not receive bookings etc. Im shocked at a lot of people (some of whom want to be djs themselves) on this comment thread saying that pre-recording a set is ok - would you rather not be up there yourself, actually mixing, actually selecting on the fly? There’s a skill that goes along with this that is disregarded and not respected by anyone who ‘plays’ a pre-recorded set.

@asole100

4 жыл бұрын

I respect that you have integrity, and honor but I think this is more of a DJ problem. Everybody in the audience just wants music regardless.

Just saw someone broadcasting “live” on tiktok but it was pretty clear they were faking it, it made it pretty lame

I feel like it's stupid and it takes away from the actual art of djing. If you cant go up there and organically beat match and mix and put on a real show and actually truly appreciate the art of being a dj than you shouldn't be allowed to step on a stage. They are giving djing a bad persona by making pre recorded sets and acting like they are djing. That's why a lot of people think that all djing is is pressing play and turning knobs. But that's what all of these "djs" are causing people to think.

Jon Sie brauchen ein Axsens logo in dem Studio! Auf die Wand. Nicht zu gross. Vielleicht wird das Logo noch mehr inspirieren.

I realy hate prerecorded Sets, but the big Problem is that the big Part of the Festival Visitors force that inderectly. They dance to and hype DJs that fool more around than a Clown. I mean ist not a DJ Set if somebody plays a Track and the goes on the Booth shouts some shit in the Mic and then plays the next Track without even Mixing it because he "motivated" and in that Time there is no Music playing, i realy dont know why people like and support this. It realy kills the Vibe for me.

boiler room lol

There are ways to sync fireworks with the music. If so, then there is no reason to fake it tbh

It's not done .. It's your job !

I place them in 2 categories... concert djs who produce their own music and that's all they play , which in my opinion is ok as long as they don't try to pretend they are the best "DJs" and performance DJs who play other people's music as well as maybe a few of their own and they actually have the skills. never ever ok in a club... but for a show at a festival etc... ok

pre-recorded, lip syncing, all of it. If I can't mess up on stage, what's even the point?

Most artists these days don't play live

full pre recorded sets are pretty lame.... now if you have pre recorded parts in the set thats ok so you can have breaks to interact with the audience but the whole show is kind of whack

Personally, I wouldn’t do a pre recorded DJ set. But if I’m at a big festival and some artists do use pre recorded sets for some purpose, I actually don’t mind. It’s about the experience and the music you hear. I rather listen to a pre recorded set with good songs instead of DJ that mixes songs that don’t fit at all.

While I would love to see an end to the faking, I know it's not feasible anymore. The hard reality is for the 10,000 people that showed up to a festival, only s fraction of them actually care if the DJ is real or fake. The rest are just there to party or hear their favorite tunes or see the big names like celebrities. Everyone has to remember that promoters are not thinking about keeping it real. They are thinking about how many people can they bring and how much money can be made. Especially with these festivals where you have sponsors and investors to please. The other problem is that even if you required everyone that could actually play and they tone down the light and visual shows so they are not in sync, the crowds then are not going to be as happy. The keeping it real people can lament how the crowd isn't there for the music and doesn't respect the art of DJing, but again, they are the people that spent the money to come in and that's what the promoter is going to care about. For as many times as I've seen DJs, including myself, complain about promoters and the scene, the only way you're going to truly understand the other side is when you go and promote events and realize how many values you have to toss out in order to be successful. Like it or not, this is the music industry. My only advice for the people who hate it would be to stick to smaller local events and support local DJs.

Avicii wasn't a real DJ right? He had pre-recorded sets right for his shows right?

CDJ's & Computer DJ software was created because, People who could not mix for real using Technic 1200's & a Uri mixer. Would now be able to lie and become a fake DJ. Slamming the fader all the way up on a mixer & trying to line up beat grids using the sync button. Then turning down the hi mid & bass volume on a mixer channel and bring in another track that is off beat. Thank you for this video. All of these so called top DJ's are trash. The best way to stop all fake DJ's is to have them use technic 1200's and a rotary mixer. No computer or software. Let's see them play for real.

The more we raise awareness, the more the crowd will care. Also it would be great if it would be possible to show your DJ software screen on the big festival screens - like if you prepare and choose the next song, people would see it

@filiptravnicek4791

Жыл бұрын

I agree

To be fair I understand the reason of having a perfect live set, However I do not go to a concert to listen to the artist cd I go to see them perform live and put on a show not lip sync to a cd. I think Djs should be held to the same standards.