Failed deck core repair Part II

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This is the second video in the series for a failed core. This boat had a lot of failed core and an unusual mix of two different cores during it's original construction.
We used plywood as our core for two reasons:
1) we were removing a deck hatch and making it a regular piece of deck again.
2) there were already 2 different cores in the boat (and plywood was available on short notice)
We have done core repairs with balsa and various foam cores. Feel free to reach out if you have a question.
Unfortunately the boat was knocked over in a hurricane and stripped before we could get back to it. The boatyard forgot to mention that the boat had been knocked over and forgot to protect it. It was stripped to a point that it was not worth saving. Sails, halyards, sheets, cushions, tools, epoxy, glass, anchors and and and.
We will complete another deck restoration in the near future and will finish the video series and possibly even use other cores. Stay tuned and feel fre to reach out with any questions.
And as always; enjoy your boat!

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  • @earlywhiskey1847
    @earlywhiskey18472 ай бұрын

    What a great attitude! Nobody will die if it’s not exactly right. Thanks for the vid three years later.

  • @SVWetHorizon
    @SVWetHorizon8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your tutorial video it helps new boat owners like myself who don’t have alot of money

  • @joshuamccarthy3493
    @joshuamccarthy349310 ай бұрын

    Just loving this guys straight to the point no bull shit attitude I could be around this guy all day

  • @joshh8395
    @joshh83952 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for these videos. I recently took on an abandoned Pearson Alberg 35 with little to no experience and as I kept learning I discovered the balsa core is bad in more than a few spots. I was freaking out until you showed how simple it is to replace.

  • @JanBoothius
    @JanBoothius2 жыл бұрын

    Very educational, thank you! Part 3 please!

  • @dorothyhillary3667
    @dorothyhillary36673 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!

  • @paulcatsea
    @paulcatsea3 жыл бұрын

    would love to see more, I know it is a lot of work to make videos but hard to find good info on repairing deck cores.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    We Have another one coming soon. We will post more on this as we plow through it.

  • @esling77
    @esling772 жыл бұрын

    Ty for the Videos. They are great and your a wealth of information. Hope all is well with you. Ty

  • @MatthewMentz01
    @MatthewMentz012 жыл бұрын

    your a legend this isn't boat work, this is philosophy

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    We love you!

  • @buddylewis2743
    @buddylewis27432 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to hear about your boat.

  • @lairdofdunstan1093
    @lairdofdunstan10933 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the videos ,they are most informative ,sorry to hear about the yobbos stripping the boat ,I'm looking forward to more videos of your repairs

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. We are sailing Florida Keys. More to come.

  • @glenswada
    @glenswada Жыл бұрын

    thank you. Sorry to hear your boat was stripped.

  • @saltyhorizon3714
    @saltyhorizon3714 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. I needed to see this information. There is a lot of fear for nothing. No matter how old this video is. The information remains. Too bad it wasn't finished though.

  • @DougRutherford1
    @DougRutherford13 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Was so looking forward to your finishing techniques. Dam hurricane. Oh well, hopfuly you have another repair soon.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    These repairs are popping up more often these days. We will have another soon.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    This pops up a lot these days, so we will get another chance. And we have already replaced that project boat with another. A 50ft ketch. Stunning with videos already in the can. Just have to squeeze the editor to post them.

  • @DougRutherford1

    @DougRutherford1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sailboatcareandrepair Looking forward to the completion of the process. Thanks for the heads up.

  • @rezas2385

    @rezas2385

    3 жыл бұрын

    One great teacher in all aspects. Thank you, Reza

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rezas2385 thank you

  • @senorjp21
    @senorjp219 ай бұрын

    BTW I've been waiting for part III... cheers

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    8 күн бұрын

    We will be doing another core repair soon and will have the rest of the steps.

  • @gilligan705
    @gilligan70525 күн бұрын

    Watched a number of videos for the same subject but for some reason I could understand yours the best. But for reasons beyond your control I would like to see how to finish the deck. Replacing the original non-slip to the new core and how to do the seam where it was cut. The first and second video were some what logical like painting a wall with a roller. It's the steady hand with the brush I'd like to see. Thanks

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    8 күн бұрын

    We will be doing another core repair soon and will have the rest of the steps.

  • @dplind87
    @dplind872 жыл бұрын

    Nice, super helpful! We just got our Brandholm 26 and the bow has a bit of flex when you step on, and assuming that this is the problem. Really takes the scare out of tearing up the deck and fixing it, great video. Now just gotta carefully remove the teak and chop it open

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad that we could help. Feel free to reach out at any time.

  • @graemesandlant4335
    @graemesandlant433511 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the awesome video. I’m sorry to hear about that pesky hurricane how dear Mother Nature screw up this video,oh well😊 l found it very informative and l hope you continue to teach us all how we can do our own repairs on our boats.

  • @nfk6869
    @nfk68692 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Would have liked to see it to the end - meaning part three where you would have put the laminate pieces cut out back. I've seen others who don't want to use the deck pieces over, and just lay new glass. I assume once ground and get it perfect you would do the same for the top laminated, with thickened epoxy, then lay glass along the cut beveled edges of the upper laminate edges. Maybe for a future video...

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    Жыл бұрын

    I have done it both ways, but putting the original deck back has always been the easiest for me. We will have a similar project soon and will give part three.

  • @mbailey9955

    @mbailey9955

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​​​@@sailboatcareandrepairr a DIY boat repair beginner like myself, a part 3 would be super helpful! Thanks from Scotland!

  • @Salazaris

    @Salazaris

    11 ай бұрын

    yeees pls part 3 😅

  • @nooneknowsmefromcc

    @nooneknowsmefromcc

    8 ай бұрын

    Awesome! Just starting the project now so hopefully I will be at that point when part 3 is ready!!@@sailboatcareandrepair

  • @saltyviking2225
    @saltyviking2225 Жыл бұрын

    Love your vids.cant find third part.hope u ok

  • @zop1394
    @zop1394 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video series, sorry for the hurricane damage and the thieves. I’ve got this same issue around my hatch, what’s the final step? I assume it’s to put the top fiberglass back on with the same process as you did the wood?

  • @MattO109
    @MattO1093 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunate ending I’m sorry my friend. I’m looking to do a deck repair on a cockpit of a 28 foot sea sprite, this was very informative.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    We already have another project boat. Feel free to reach out with any questions

  • @MattO109

    @MattO109

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sailboatcareandrepair Thank you, Definitely will when problems arise!

  • @tvelocidad
    @tvelocidad9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the video. I was curious where part III is? I don't see the step I was interested in, which is how you get that concave in your core.

  • @austinadams1732
    @austinadams1732 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome Video, I need to re-core my cockpit sole and I live in Florida. I notice a layer of condensation that forms on my boat every evening. How do you go about ensuring things actually dry out instead of just exposing the core to more water when you make the repair?

  • @peteabdu9179
    @peteabdu9179 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting this, super helpful video. I have a section of deck that's spongy and want to replace the core. Did you precoat your plywood and let it dry before putting it down? what about laying fiberglass down on top of your wood for strength? Do you use multiple crossed layers or just one layer?

  • @FM-mb2lu
    @FM-mb2lu2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Sorry to hear about the boat. We’re looking at a Pearson 365 and the surveyor told us the deck area below the windless has a failed core. We are super handy but have never worked on boats. You made the repair seem not so frightening. We may have to communicate with your further if we purchase the Pearson.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great boat!! Feel free to reach out at any time. I am headed down to a boat in the Panama Canal Zone so might be out of touch for a week or so, butt I am happy to help

  • @goofyfoot2001
    @goofyfoot2001 Жыл бұрын

    Part 3!!!!!!

  • @giorgiofabbro4596
    @giorgiofabbro459611 ай бұрын

    Hi, thankyou forr your lession! It's possible as you said in the end of the video (but I'm not native english speaker) to do the same from the bottom with the same streghtenimg result? Thamkyou in advance fornyour kind reply.

  • @DarkSevariant
    @DarkSevariant2 ай бұрын

    Great video..!!! 30:50 did you put like a weight on it, to keep it pressed down, or just let it dry without weight? That's crazy a hurricane knocked your boat over, and vandals stripped her. :/

  • @jroyablacksmith
    @jroyablacksmith2 жыл бұрын

    I possibly have some deck repairs to do on my gulfstar 41 if your looking for content you know I could use some help it’s my first boat and I’d love to get hands on learning

  • @jtkthird
    @jtkthird Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your time to teach us! I have the same question as another poster - on the walkway where you cut the long piece of top layer off to remove the balsa under it - will you use that top layer again? I ask because mine has the non-skid pattern I could cut out the entire section of the non-skid replace the core under it and use that top section right back again. What do you say about that?

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes you can do that. If you are saving the nonskid remember to cut far enough away from it to ha e room to glass it back to the deck without messing up the nonskid. And while doing this keep in mind that as you get close to the edge of the deck, the core isn't there anymore. Look inside before you cut so that you don't accidentally cut the whole deck off. Fixable but a pain in the butt and embarrassing

  • @Bakanelli
    @Bakanelli8 ай бұрын

    Whats the weight and volume of that West Systems 406 box?🙂 I don’t know how much to order… 🙁

  • @bluej2k
    @bluej2k3 жыл бұрын

    New subscriber and new-to-sailing rookie here with a question. I acquired a decent project boat with a badly rotted front deck that resulted from a poorly sealed owner-installed small vent over the vee-berth decades ago. Over the years it appears the rot has consumed most of the core from one side of the deck to the other - and almost from the tip of the bow to the beginning of the cabin. In a case like this, where most of the top will be removed and nearly all of the core replaced, is one large cut of the top deck possible and/or preferable to many smaller cuts, or should the job be divided into smaller sections? I hope that question made sense. Many thanks for your contribution to this hobby.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    It makes sense. One cut is easier, but not always possible. Thump around and cut the deck just outside of the dull sound. Watch out for where the core ends. It does not go all the way out to the edge of the deck. Look under to see where the thicker cored part ends. You don't want to cut the non-cored part. If you end up needing to cut more, you can.

  • @user-lk3dg3vl7w
    @user-lk3dg3vl7w10 ай бұрын

    Good Information no doubt but please less dialog and more content.

  • @jamesgoertler133
    @jamesgoertler1332 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to hear about your bad vandals experience. Some folks just don't get it. My question is how do I know what type of deck material I have and do all deck floors have that 1st layer a thin layer. My 1st time cutting into my deck scares me a bit without knowing depth of 1st layer to get a proper inspection of what's really going on under there. The soft spot is 2ft x 2ft max on an '06 Pursuit 2470. Thank you, Jim G.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I understand your concern. Drill a quarter inch hole and you will be able to see the thickness of the first fiberglass layer. Once you do this some of the core will come up and we can decide which core you have. Most production boats have balsa core, but not all.

  • @IanSan56
    @IanSan563 жыл бұрын

    What boatyard are you at? I'm in the same area and want to know what to look out for. Or if you'd rather, what boatyard do you prefer? And thanks for the videos! I'm working on this project right now so this is very timely.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was a boatyard in northern Florida. We are hoping that they will take a little bit of responsibility without needing an attorney so will be quiet about them for now. There are a lot of wonderful yards that I have worked in and worked with. Only a few are truly shady. What part of the country are you in?

  • @IanSan56

    @IanSan56

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sailboatcareandrepair oh, I thought you were in south Florida. I'm in St Petersburg and will need a yard in a couple of months to haul out and repaint.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IanSan56 Check the yards in Salt Creek, also a yard across the bay. Forgot the name but south east of St. Pete. Good.folks and reasonable. The yard is for sale and we thought about buying it about a year ago, but the partner had a family problem and dropped out.

  • @user-ti5ny5vu2m
    @user-ti5ny5vu2m5 ай бұрын

    If you just glue back the outer skin instead of laminating with the neibourghing skin the deck isn t a single skin any more , doesn t it weaker the sandwich ?

  • @magnumopus00b
    @magnumopus00b Жыл бұрын

    Nice video! The product you use do the work?

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    Жыл бұрын

    Using the same type of core as the boat was built with is usually best but foams and even plywood fine. Any epoxy that you can get is also ok. The key is clean clean clean and dry dry dry. Then epoxy her back together and enjoy. We will be doing another boat with core failures soon to add to and complete the full series

  • @TylerHunt808
    @TylerHunt8082 жыл бұрын

    what tool would you use to shape the camber and grind down the wood?

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    Grinder with 36 grid or a planer.

  • @donpetrey8007
    @donpetrey80073 жыл бұрын

    How do people get into these yards after a hurricane and strip a boat that doesn’t happen in a day. We’re you guys to far away to get back timely. I live in Alaska and we have crazy winds all year usually in winter but if it was the case I would be checking often. Just my opinion.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    We were on another boat over a thousand miles away.The ground washed out from under the stands and the yard neither mentioned that the boat had fallen nor that it was being stripped, so we finished the other boat. In the Caribbean and more responsible yards, they let you know if there has been a problem. We will stick to more responsible yards in the future.

  • @donpetrey8007
    @donpetrey80073 жыл бұрын

    Why didn’t you put slits in the back of the ply to allow for camber it would conform

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    The camber was so minor on this boat that it was easier in an instructional video to just sand a 16th off the corners. There are a bunch of other things that we can add in a second or third round of videos, but for most people, it's not needed. We are the real world repair channel after all Someday I should do another channel for guys who have more time, more tools etc. Thanks for checking and for those that want to learn this technique - let us know and I will gladly do a quick video on it.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not a large enough area to be worth it. And the uncut plywood is more stable, so skipped it on this project. We do it sometimes, though. Just not here.

  • @dumbboatproject
    @dumbboatproject3 жыл бұрын

    how much does it normally cost to get a boat recored?

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hiring a boatyard to do this is very far from cheap. And sneaking add on costs should be expected as they dig in and more is found to be done along the way. A dishonest yard will have you by the short hairs and it can get ugly quick.

  • @nsrhoads
    @nsrhoads3 жыл бұрын

    Cut more mine keen

  • @emieldejong775
    @emieldejong7752 жыл бұрын

    Have some rotten core as well on my boat, but do not want to cut open the top because of the anti skid pattern. Is it OK to open up the inside and do the repair from the inside altough is working against gravity with the sticky and runny epoxy.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    You got it. It works upside down, but it's upside down. If the nonskid pattern is symmetric, you can make a mold and replace it. Which ever is easier or you. But keep in mind the massive amounts of fiberglass grinding dust.

  • @emieldejong775

    @emieldejong775

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sailboatcareandrepair Cleared the front cabin and sealed it from the rest of the boat, got the vacuum cleaner and safety measures ready for this messy Job. First thougt was to drill a dozen or more holes, but someone 🤫confinced me to open up the deck. Thanks for the advice.👍

  • @gigioecu
    @gigioecu Жыл бұрын

    So I have a 4’ x 1’ area on a Hobie cat 14 that is delaminated. Right under the trampoline - starboard. The core of any has to be less than 1/8”. Do you still recommend the same approach?

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    Жыл бұрын

    Never done a core that is so thin. That is such a small surface area that I would leave it alone for a while. Decide if you love the boat. If yes, I would do a proper repair. If it doesn't bother you or you don't fall in love - leave be. If you do the cut out repair, I would only cut 3-4 inches wide so that you have plenty of surface to glass back to at the end. This will allow you to slide in core after a good clean and dry or even shoot in high density foam. Let us know what you decide. We would be happy to go over it in more detail if you decide to pull the trigger.

  • @gigioecu

    @gigioecu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sailboatcareandrepair thank you for your prompt response. I was just about to do the hole fix until I came across your video. Seems like most repairs involve using git rot when filling in the holes. I’ll get back to you after further research.

  • @ianwright7393
    @ianwright739323 күн бұрын

    What about balsa in the hull, or are isn't there any?????????????

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    8 күн бұрын

    Balsa cored hills exist but are not common. I recommend doing core repairs on a hull from the inside. Controlling the fiberglass dust is the key. BIG vacuum and partitioning with plastic.

  • @riverafamily3432
    @riverafamily3432 Жыл бұрын

    Just wondering would this be good to use for deck core? Severe Weather 23/32-in x 4-ft x 8-ft Pressure Treated Cdx Southern Yellow Pine Plywood Sheathing From lowes

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    Жыл бұрын

    The product that makes wood pressure treated rejects the epoxy. It doesn't work.

  • @riverafamily3432

    @riverafamily3432

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sailboatcareandrepair what do you recommend and where would it be good to purchase Thanks

  • @SportRiding
    @SportRiding3 жыл бұрын

    Is polyester resin ok to use instead of epoxy resin?

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure, it's fine but epoxy is more of a glue so works a little better in my personal opinion. But there is a whole school of thought that you should stay with what the boat was originally built with and it does work. I use epoxy on repairs like this since it has slightly better qualities as a glue.

  • @SportRiding

    @SportRiding

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sailboatcareandrepair Thanks. Also on the boat flooring I'm repairing, the original floor is screwed down to the stringers. Should I just glue the new section to the stringers or place screws like the factory did?

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely screw. The boat flexes and can pop the cabin sole (floor) loose if only glued. Screwing allows you to pull it up if needed too.

  • @SportRiding

    @SportRiding

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sailboatcareandrepair Thank you so much for all the replies. It has helped so much with me taking this on alone.

  • @cpborrelli
    @cpborrelli Жыл бұрын

    Dont they ineject gorrilla glue instead of epoxy now because it absorbs the moisture and hardens wet material?

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't as it would be really expensive unless the void was very small

  • @BrokerFr8
    @BrokerFr82 жыл бұрын

    Yeah took me like a week to finish this video lol. j/k

  • @bobsimmons1913
    @bobsimmons19132 жыл бұрын

    Where is part 3?

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    The boat was destroyed in a hurricane but we will do another video to show the rest on another boat.

  • @heatherwilliams4494

    @heatherwilliams4494

    24 күн бұрын

    Hello thank you for your video just picked it up ,do you let the plywood and hole dry before you stick down with with thicken apoxy ? Do you have part three out yet , great help thank you Regards Chris UK

  • @jimboha
    @jimboha9 ай бұрын

    If in doubt, cut it out!

  • @bullhippo9023
    @bullhippo90233 жыл бұрын

    Looks like my rotten boat,I used corecell and coosa as a new core.

  • @sailboatcareandrepair

    @sailboatcareandrepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have used nearly everything except Coosa, but we plan to use it on a bulkhead replacement soon. Do well and have fun with your boat.

  • @bullhippo9023

    @bullhippo9023

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sailboatcareandrepair coosa is tough on saw blades,I have dedicated blades now just for it,not going to ruin any more new table saw blades.the cutting dust is annoying too. I wear gloves

  • @backthebadge4009
    @backthebadge40093 жыл бұрын

    Good info.....you should show more doing the work....and talk a little less...

  • @johnlares1479

    @johnlares1479

    3 жыл бұрын

    I found the commentary helpful and entertaining. Keep up the great work, OP!

  • @chrishoffmann4067

    @chrishoffmann4067

    3 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy your commentary. It’s makes what could be a boring video entertaining. More importantly it gives encouragement to people like me who don’t have much experience in the boat yard. Now I’m actually looking forward repairing my old C&C. Thank you!

  • @catherinesecula5287

    @catherinesecula5287

    2 жыл бұрын

    I actually like your sens of humour..so keep talking ...

  • @veloguru11
    @veloguru113 ай бұрын

    2 videos, and an incomplete job. Not helpful.

  • @xavpil2
    @xavpil2 Жыл бұрын

    Too much blah blah blah.